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83 Exploring Sasquatch Portals and Energy Fields with William Morris · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: This is episode eighty three with one mister William Morris
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  Speaker 2: contacted him through Facebook and say, hey, I'd love to
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  Speaker 2: hear about your encounters and your research. And he was like, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: let's let's do that. And he came on and it
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  Speaker 2: was It was very, very very informative. It was really cool,
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  Speaker 2: and I just enjoyed every bit about it. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: his take on things. I enjoyed how he went about things.
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  Speaker 2: He also told me of a program. Let's see if
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  Speaker 2: I can pull that up real quick. I got it
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  Speaker 2: here somewhere he's talking. He told me about a program
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be launched at North Carolina State University
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  Speaker 2: with one Darby or Cut. He is a spot for
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  Speaker 2: a da rb y or cut or Cut, not cut
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  Speaker 2: or Cut. He's a librarian instructor in inters interdisciplinary partnerships
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  Speaker 2: at North Carolina State University. He's going to be launching
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  Speaker 2: a scientific program to study sas squatch through physical evidence,
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  Speaker 2: not folklore. So it's going to be a DNA study
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  Speaker 2: a lot, not just DNA study. There's going to be geologist.
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  Speaker 2: He has a whole team, and now you know we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be able to go about this whole sas squatch
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  Speaker 2: thing with a little bit more scientific rigor, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: you know, people who've been crying out for years and years,
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  Speaker 2: you know this thing is real, will finally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get their lowers, will finally feel that they're not just
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  Speaker 2: being left out during the cold. So yeah, I left
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  Speaker 2: that link in the description. So please, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to go and see what that's all about,
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  Speaker 2: maybe find out if you can support it somehow. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: have it on your podcast if there's another podcast listening
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  Speaker 2: to this podcast or listening to this podcast, listener podcast
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  Speaker 2: or listening. Well, this stuff is complicated, but if you're
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  Speaker 2: listening to it, dude, just take the link and throw
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  Speaker 2: it on yours one of your episodes and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: this out there so we can get get this, help
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  Speaker 2: this and get some legs anyway that we can through
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  Speaker 2: this type of community. So, yeah, it was a great interview.
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. The first part might be a
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  Speaker 2: little bit messed up audibly. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I have to have to.
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  Speaker 2: I have to go through and clean it up and
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  Speaker 2: see if I can make it a little bit better.
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  Speaker 2: But it was really really good. He showed me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a piece of quartz that he had just got set
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  Speaker 2: on his you know, shelf of work by a big
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  Speaker 2: you know, by Sasquatch bigfoot at the middle in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of his shift at night. He's seen him cloak.
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  Speaker 2: He's you know, straight up told me that these things
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  Speaker 2: can do a lot more than what we think. I
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  Speaker 2: So thank you also very much. I hope you enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: this episode with one mister William Morris.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning from seven Oregon A.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from the Yucatam Peninsula of Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: Little furs off down there at me. Yeah, it's nice
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  Speaker 1: and hot and steamy.
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  Speaker 2: And I was out on my ranch this weekend with
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  Speaker 2: the machete chyinga. I have solar panels, so I had
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  Speaker 2: to cut some of the trees away because I realized
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  Speaker 2: that my batteries weren't charging up. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, I got a lot to do, and
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  Speaker 2: I swead it through my shirt. But I'm here now, man,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Seems good for you. Purifies the body.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So William, tell us a little bit about yourself,
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  Speaker 2: where we can find you, and and uh yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know things like that. Tell me, tell me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about what you do and where we can find you.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy. Well, I live in the southern Oregon. You can
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  Speaker 1: find me on Facebook. All you got to do is
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  Speaker 1: look up Mustanger bill and you'll find me under William Morris.
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  Speaker 1: It should come up under that easily. I used to
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  Speaker 1: be a horse trainer for twenty years, so that's where
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  Speaker 1: the Mustanger bill comes in at. Okay, so it's something
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  Speaker 1: I miss. Yeah, but unfortunately it kind of beats your
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  Speaker 1: body up after a while. I'd imagine, yes, I'd imagine
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  Speaker 1: so yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I would, you know, down here
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  Speaker 2: trying to you know, make a living. It's just this
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  Speaker 2: is just a hobby that I enjoy and if it
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  Speaker 2: happens to make money, then so be it. That's great.
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  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this. I hope it does turn into
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  Speaker 2: what I do full time. But I enjoy painting and
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  Speaker 2: I windsurfing and stand up and making music, and I
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  Speaker 2: just don't have the time for that either, man, So
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  Speaker 2: I know what you mean.
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  Speaker 1: You sound a lot like me. You know, you'll see
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  Speaker 1: one of my guitars sitting behind me here.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm alsoymbolically inclined like you.
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  Speaker 1: So we're all good, brother Yeah, great Beard is coming
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  Speaker 1: in on me, man, So we're like, we're like like
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  Speaker 1: long lost brothers. So where does this whole thing start
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  Speaker 1: for you? Dude?
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  Speaker 2: How did you, like, you know, were you always interested
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  Speaker 2: in it or it's just kind of like hits you
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  Speaker 2: in the face one day with an encounter?
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  Speaker 1: How did this start for you? Actually? Growing up, I
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  Speaker 1: really didn't believe in things like this. I had my
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  Speaker 1: first encounter when I was sixteen years old. I'm sixty
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  Speaker 1: one at the moment, so forty five years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, when I was born nineteen eighty then, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm forty five.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I actually started in October during the hunting
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  Speaker 1: season here in Oregon. I lived on a ranch in
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  Speaker 1: Myrtle Creek. We call it Myrtle's Crack. Once you falling,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to get out of it. I lived at
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  Speaker 1: a ranch called the s Diamond Ranch. And you only
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  Speaker 1: give me permission. It's a little over a half square
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  Speaker 1: mile is the ranch. It's was over five hundred acres
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  Speaker 1: and so allowed me to hunt on the property and
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  Speaker 1: hunt just behind our place. I was headed over the
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  Speaker 1: hill just behind my place, only probably maybe four hundred
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  Speaker 1: yards away. I would say. As I crossed the hill,
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  Speaker 1: come down this little roadway on the other side, and
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  Speaker 1: saw my first sasquatch, was kind of in denial of it,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, it's not supposed to exist, supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be no such thing. Growing up, I'd read books like
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  Speaker 1: Searching or this what is it? Search for Sasquatch by
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  Speaker 1: Peter Burn. Matter of fact, I have one of the
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  Speaker 1: original copies of it. Also watching things growing up, like
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  Speaker 1: in Search of Lenardy Moye. Well, that was probably my
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  Speaker 1: first introduction to the Patterson Gimlin film, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: still I still take all that stuff with a grain
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  Speaker 1: of salt. Even after my first encounter, I actually kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of tucked it away because I really didn't
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  Speaker 1: believe what I saw. My mind kind of saw something different,
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  Speaker 1: like a giant rabbit. Seriously asked Kenny Gerhard one day
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  Speaker 1: we were hanging out up in Vancouver vor Researchers. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Kenn is a good friend. He's uh I call h
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  Speaker 1: my little brother, but I said, I can't even better
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  Speaker 1: report a giant rabbit. But actually that memory got recalled
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  Speaker 1: veter on and I do remember when it. Uh I
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  Speaker 1: just come over the hair. It was about thirty five
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  Speaker 1: feet away, and uh, I would have never noticed it,
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  Speaker 1: but it moved, you know, Honey. Was when we're when
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  Speaker 1: we're out hunting, what we're looking for is movement. We're
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  Speaker 1: waiting for that ear twitchy and horizontal lines, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And this thing was their crops down or two where
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  Speaker 1: a rabbit sits, you know, uh kind of almost all
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  Speaker 1: his haunch. His arms were kind of down to his side,
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  Speaker 1: and uh had his head down and uh, I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to become invisible, you know, just so I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't see him. But I saw him move
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit, and that's what drew my attention
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  Speaker 1: to him. And it was kind of a trick color sasquatch.
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  Speaker 1: It was more like a kind of like a basketball player,
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  Speaker 1: but a little little beef here. You know. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: one of the big hulking ones, which was will be
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  Speaker 1: my next ones. And uh, but I remember I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: him for about two minutes you know, I'm sitting there
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  Speaker 1: packing a rifle. I never raised by rifle towards him
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  Speaker 1: or anything else, because you know, I didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at. And the one thing me is
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  Speaker 1: being a hunter, you know, unless I know what my
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  Speaker 1: target is, you know, that's it, you know, And that's
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing is know your background, know what's behind it,
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  Speaker 1: know everything about it, you know, and if it's not
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  Speaker 1: a kill shot, you don't take it. And uh so,
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  Speaker 1: uh but when he when he exited the area, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to color. He was black brown and
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  Speaker 1: uh kind of the orangutan type red, kind of patchy.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I kind of went into my mind because
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  Speaker 1: the way he was sitting and and I used to
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  Speaker 1: own rabbits, and I had rabbits that actually had this
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  Speaker 1: safe type of colors. Okay, so you know that was
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  Speaker 1: why my mind, because I'm my mind is just like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's a rabbit. That's the biggest rabbit I ever saw
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  Speaker 1: in my life. Well, this guy was probably I would
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  Speaker 1: say about seven and a half feet, you know, and height,
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  Speaker 1: and when it exited the area, it took like a
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  Speaker 1: superman dive. And the thing I was it had hands
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  Speaker 1: when it took the dive, but after it disappeared from
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  Speaker 1: my sight, which only took a second. I mean when
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  Speaker 1: it when it bolted it, it just took a total leap.
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  Speaker 1: Never heard another sound, was just gone. He heard another thing.
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  Speaker 1: And this was late Paul, you know, and walking around
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  Speaker 1: the woods at that time, it's like walking on potato chips, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't much that it can escape without you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hearing where it's going or anything else. But
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  Speaker 1: there was never another sound. It was just gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to like believing these things, like,
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  Speaker 2: I've never I've never had an encounter. You know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: one day, you know, God will grace me with an encounter.
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  Speaker 2: It would be something I'd be interested in. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see a dog man, but a big foot
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  Speaker 2: would be fine. But so, you know, the first thing
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  Speaker 2: I ever seen was the Patterson Gimblin film too. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it was like on a you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: when it just kind of showed up on a screen
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  Speaker 2: in some type of like preview for another show and
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what's that?
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  Speaker 2: And then doing this podcast or run across so many
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  Speaker 2: people who are so genuine like yourself, and others who
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  Speaker 2: just say, you know, this is what I seen. And
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  Speaker 2: then I watched M Davis break down the film, and
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  Speaker 2: then it was just recently, like a month ago. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I was still you know, leaning towards Yes, it's real,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I'm always just you know, trying to
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  Speaker 2: be level headed about everything I do. And there was
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  Speaker 2: a particular motion when it looked back and you seen
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  Speaker 2: the right leg kind of step to the right little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and you've seen the.
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  Speaker 1: Muscles in the leg. I was like, but you see
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  Speaker 1: the hernia in the leg. There's also a hernia just
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  Speaker 1: above the knee. Okay, the right leg. Yeah, when you
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  Speaker 1: see those muscles flexed, you'll see a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a hernia muscle where one of the muscles had been torn.
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  Speaker 2: That in the brain the I was just with MK
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  Speaker 2: bout a week ago, no kidding, Oh, he's a great man.
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  Speaker 1: I love. We had a good time. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: I have the opportunity which I turned down because I
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  Speaker 1: had adulphine thing to do, you know, because I just
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  Speaker 1: I just sent the previous two weekends on at the
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  Speaker 1: beach wet and we had also things going on at
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  Speaker 1: beach Foot. Matter of fact, when I pulled into my
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  Speaker 1: camp at beach Foot. You know, I always take a
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  Speaker 1: look around. I'm very observant. I've been used to be
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  Speaker 1: a bodyguard at one point in time, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I pay attention to everything. I went up to go
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  Speaker 1: check in with Todd niece and let him know I
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  Speaker 1: was there on what side I was taken. Walked back
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  Speaker 1: to my camp and all of a sudden, one of
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  Speaker 1: the stumps, there's a rock stack that wasn't there when
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  Speaker 1: I pulled in, and it also my neighbors. She decided
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  Speaker 1: she was going to put in the camp neighboring me.
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  Speaker 1: Uh put a little thing up representing using pine cones
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  Speaker 1: to represent her family, let her ls represent her name,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, a few little other things. And uh
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  Speaker 1: So the next morning, now sinking, she said, now get
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  Speaker 1: any answers. But the final day she got an answer
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  Speaker 1: and it was directly across from another stump from where
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  Speaker 1: my rockstack was. The rockstack represent I don't know the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing was. Is Cassie Blunt. She's also another researcher
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  Speaker 1: that lives in q S Bay, a good friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: She came to my camp and checked it out. She said,
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  Speaker 1: I got one a week and a half ago and
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  Speaker 1: looked exactly like it. Uh, the small one on one
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  Speaker 1: side looked like like a rubber ducky if you looked
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  Speaker 1: at the silhouette of it. Okay, so it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of a cool looking rockstack. She said, No, she says,
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  Speaker 1: I had one that look just like it, except they
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  Speaker 1: were bigger rocks. And it's just been a week and
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  Speaker 1: a half earlier.
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  Speaker 2: That's weird. That's such a strange occurrence. I like say,
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  Speaker 2: once you've seen this, this one dive into the bushes,
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  Speaker 2: you don't hear anything from the you know, from the
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  Speaker 2: not the dead fall, but the dry leaves all.
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  Speaker 1: Over the ground. Absolutely, Who do you who do you
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  Speaker 1: tell this to? Well? That was the whole thing, is
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  Speaker 1: this is this is nineteen eighty. There was no finding bigfoot. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Sasquatch wasn't a big thing. Matter of fact, people stayed
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  Speaker 1: off the radar, you know, because, yeah, who do you tell?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I knew all the police in town. They
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  Speaker 1: would just laughing out of town, you know. I lived
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  Speaker 1: three and a half miles out of town at the
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  Speaker 1: time and on the s Divand ranch, but there was
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  Speaker 1: nobody to talk to. I think that was even pre
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  Speaker 1: bf r O. I think that was before money makers
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  Speaker 1: started that sow and uh, there wasn't much going on.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Peter Burr, I found out later, had a
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  Speaker 1: little spot over in the eastern Oregon where he would
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  Speaker 1: take take sightings and different things. He was standing in
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  Speaker 1: a little trailer out there, and yeah, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was at the time. I
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  Speaker 1: know a little bit about it because of Tom Slick
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  Speaker 1: and him doing the thing for in Nepal. For the
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  Speaker 1: Eddie and eastern Oregon is so kind of like desert
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  Speaker 1: like and dessolent and there, and they're they're so it's so.
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  Speaker 2: Common that people are having even you know, in count
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  Speaker 2: out there. You would think that they wouldn't have much cover.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe maybe you can tell me, maybe they'd like
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  Speaker 2: go from one area of the country or of the
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  Speaker 2: continent to another and kind of just kind of go
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  Speaker 2: through there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so weird they can. I think they
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  Speaker 1: got ways of traveling anywhere they want and quickly and instantly.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people talk about portals and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And the more research and the more strangeness I see,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it. My son is actually having encounters down
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  Speaker 1: where he is. He's in Landers, California. He's down a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, he looks out his door and there
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  Speaker 1: was a thing built way back when called the I
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  Speaker 1: think it's called the Integratron or something along that line.
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  Speaker 1: A guy was building down there to communicate with aliens, supposedly,
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  Speaker 1: and he deleted before he died, and the government actually
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  Speaker 1: came in and took all the equipment out of there
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  Speaker 1: that he had built. So yeah, a lot of strange
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  Speaker 1: anomalies that happened down there in the desert. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: my son been here the week before Beachwood, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's been having encounters with that. He's pretty sure it's
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  Speaker 1: my juvenile from here. He goes down there, slaps on
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  Speaker 1: his trailer, you know, does different things. My son was
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  Speaker 1: driving down the road and Iraq flew in his window
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  Speaker 1: in his car while he's moving and landed right between
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  Speaker 1: his feet and my Jule, my juvenile is pretty famous.
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  Speaker 1: His name is JJ. Most people know who he is,
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  Speaker 1: uh and me around so it's uh, it's it's pretty incredible.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I've actually uh had a few people that have encountered
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the family that I study, and it's and it's uh.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: They tend to follow you. I don't know if it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to protect me or what it is, but you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I go to a lot of sassquash events, so and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: they do they feel honored by us doing that, having
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: those events where.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: That is so cool, so interesting. So after the after
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: this first encounter, like so you just kind of you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you were still trying to maybe piece this in your
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: mind or you know what I mean, you didn't know
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: exactly what the thing is. So then like you just
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: started going or it's just another chance encounter that got you,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: got the ball rolling more for you.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: About eight months later, which would have been I would
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: have been seventeen years old, it was like in the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: end of May early June, I had gone my mom
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and I had gotten in a fight. So I walked
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to town three and a half miles. It's no big
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: deal to do it all the time, and visited with
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: friends and everything. But on my way back home that night,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it's probably about eleven o'clock, I have to cross a
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: creek which is North Myrtle Creek, which is the road
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I lived on, which is North Myrtle, but it's three
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and a half miles away. I was crossing over the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: first bridge right next to where I was visiting friends,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and I could smell that skunk carrying wet dog smell,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and I can hear something creek. Is that that cavitation
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: sound when you're walking against the water flow and you
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: hear that, that that air coming behind your calves And
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I can hear that, And I was like, well, that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: kind of strange here, and the hill's down there walking
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in the creek, so I didn't take much of it,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and I move went on. I have to go up
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a block and a half or so, kind of was
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: then can come back and I have to cross the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: creek again, and I heard the same sound, smell, the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: same smell. So there's a spot there. It's called used
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to be called. They call us the y. It's the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: transition between North Myrtle South Myrtle. Coming from town and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: hit it out in the country either direction. And so
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I get about a mile out and I hear here,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: not only hear it, but feel four footsteps. And I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: looked to.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: My right and at the time the road has been
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: redone a few times since then things have been filled in,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: but there was about a three foot drop off just
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: off the side of the road and I always walked
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to the endside of the road, but as soon as
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I heard that four step, I looked to the right
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and we're staring eye eye. So I put him about
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: nine feet tall, a little over nine feet tall. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: that last two minutes, and all I can think of
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: is my mind is.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Pete, don't fail me. Now, well they failed me. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't move. I was just absolutely I understood the phrase
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a bolt of fear because it was just instant and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going to happen. And we
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: just kind of stared at each other for about two minutes.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And this and this is where I understand that their
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: eyes are not it's not eyeshine, it's self illumination these
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: because it's it's dark, it's after eleven at night. There's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: no light, you know, just enough that I can see
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: his outline and see his eyes, and his eyes were
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: actually glowing and his were green, and which was really close.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So there's different they have different when you you you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: stated like specifically that they're green, so they have different
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: colored eyes sometimes. Yeah, I've I've heard of blue eyes.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Red eyes is very common to hear about, I know
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: here on the Mackenzie River, even Cliff, Barrick, Ben and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Bobo and them when they were out there, Uh, they
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: experienced the red eyes. Oh it's like, I don't know
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: if they can change or not. Kind of there's a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: lot of things they can change that I don't know
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: if they're putting illusions in your mind or what they do,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know, But I've heard the green eye colored many times.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I was actually up at the NABC, which is the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: North American big Foot Center and boring this run by
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Cliff Berkman, and a guy had come in. The older guy,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: he was probably in his seventies, and decided he was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: going to give Cliff a report. And one of the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: first things he said, well, it had green eyes. I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: looked at Cliff because the first time I told Cliff,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: he kind of looked at me like a deer in
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the headlights. And I said, see see somebody else green eyes,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I said. He said, what, I never doubted you.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I said, no, you looked at me like a deer
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in the headlights when I told you that. I said,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: here's another report right here, you know. But yeah, in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the face to face it lasted for about two minutes
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and we just kind of stared at each other and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: then it turned to walk away. It took three steps
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and I never heard another sound, and off it went,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: you know. And I went to town started walking backwards,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: watching that spot walking backwards, and I was just kind
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of jogging backwards, turned and I probably ran the fastest
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: mile of any anybody could have ever run.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You have the Olympic, the Olympic committee out there with
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the stop.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Beating feet, and uh well, I was bodybuilding at the time,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: so I was a big dude and this thing made
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: me look good. And I've said this before, it made
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: me look like Billy Barty. I don't know if you
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: know who Billy Barry was. He's kind of beat your time,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: but Billy Barty was a dwarf. Okay, yeah, this thing
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: made me look small. Wow. It's about four feet across
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the shoulders, three feet deep in the chest. And the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: funny thing is is the family that I'm studying now,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it's his family. So I'm still having contact after forty
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: five years, and so it's been pretty cool. And actually
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I called him out on my fist side, so we're
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just down on the siding too, Yes, sir, I got
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: back to the The y was a rose transition there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: There's a market there called the super Y and uh
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: we had a family saying if you got a payphone,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: didn't have done Yes, there were payphones back then. He
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: just picked it up and just click on the receiver.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And uh, there was only two phones in town. So
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: my mom knew that, Okay, there's an emergency. I need
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to go find them. The first place she is the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: super Y because it's on the same road and the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: other one's downtown. Uh. She picked me up and I said,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just drive and she looked at me and she says,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: h And first thing she'll tell you is Bill was white.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Bill's not white because you know olive complex and skin.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And she knew something was up. And when we got
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: close to the spot, it was just past the one
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: mile marker and I was like, step on it. Then
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I started to tell her what happened. Okay, by then
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I was starting to calm a little bit and get
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the hell at her. You know, I've never even to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: this day, I've never walked that road again at night
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: when I used to do it all the time, just
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: all the time. What does that do to you?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, being being a gentleman with you know, you're
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: saying you're about six foot tall, maybe a little over
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: six foot tall.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I'm six three six for myself.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: You're a bodybuilder and you're seeing something down at a
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: ditch street feet so you're estimating nine feet. Now, what
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: does that do to your confidence as a man?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Who is you know? Like that does what you do? Well?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It was just I was terrified, I really was. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know what was going to happen or anything else.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, later on got not too long ago,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: actually not eight years ago, I finally realized that even
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: with all the encounters that I've had, I've they would
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: all be considered face to face, and I've had six
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: of them. Uh, this one I was close enough I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: could just reach out and touching without fully extending my arms.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's how close we were. And the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: thing of it is is, you know I'd smelled that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: smell before earlier, but when we're face to face, there
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: was no smell, nothing whatsoever. So it's I think it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: something they can kind of turn on and off. Maybe
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it's something to let you know they're there. Who knows?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I mean meaday is all they do is that throw
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: something across my paths They've never thrown anything at me.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: There is just sort of something to cross in front
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of me to let me know that they're there. And Bill,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: when you were saying that they can put things in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: your mind, what did you mean by that, I said, well,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know, possibly that. Well, I know there's there is
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a mental connection with them, okay, And uh, matter of fact,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: on my fist sighting, I went to challenge on all
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: that that because Tom cantrall. Yes, I know Tom. Tom's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a good friend, and.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Really that's cool man. He's a he's a great guy.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Great. Yes, I am in Sasquatch Face to Face. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: am chapter twenty six, okay, of which I wrote, which
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: is about this second siding when we were to face.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: A matter of fact, a friend of mine had put
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: out there that Tom was looking for face to face encounters,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and so I wrote him and this this was our
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: first introduction to each other. And I told him, told
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: him my story and he says, well, first of all,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: before I even set the story, you know, I told him,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I said, well, are you still working on the book.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: He said, well, I'm pretty much done. I'm he's just
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: in the final stages of you know, getting everything done.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But he said, he said, if your story was good enough,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: he says, I'll bump somebody like he didn't, But yeah
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it was. I thought that was kind of funny. Uh
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: So I said in mine, and he's like, oh, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: definitely wanted to sudden there. So we had it back
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and forth for a couple of weeks, getting everything straightened out,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: making sure all the the eyes were dotted and the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: periods are in the right spots and you know, everything
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was done correctly. And uh because each of us wrote
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: our own chapters, you know that are writing the book.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: So I ended up Tom put me in there. But
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Tom had said in any podcast at one time that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: they become mentally connected to you, and uh so that's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that's where my fist sighting comes in. So let me
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: run through my other ones here. I have three of them,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: including the face to face but almost back to back,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: really close in a time period. And my mom was
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: part of two of them, actually three, because she picked
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: me up the one night so and she knew I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: was absolutely terrified. The next one was about a week
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and a half later, and I felt we were being watched.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It was just going to bed, and so I look
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: out my back window, and I saw the glowing eyes.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: They're about thirty feet away from my back window, up
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: on a because right behind our place where we were
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: as a mobile home, the bank had been cut back
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: in just to you know, make a pad and everything
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: for this. And it was just up on the rise
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at the first tree, just sitting there, squatting down watching
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: our place. Yeah, I'm like, please don't eat me. I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it's like you could turn the side off the place
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and be in there in a half a second. I mean,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been a challenge, especially seeing the size
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of them. And it's like the biggest body builder you
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: ever saw, with muscles on top of muscles on top
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of muscles. My mother, which she just actually relays this
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to me about a year or so ago, said, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she was kind of paralyzed the entire night. He sat
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: up to the entire night until just before Senna, and uh,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the first thing I heard. What I did is I
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: called it. I closed the curtains like that was going
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to protect me from anything, right in the bed and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the fetal position, and stayed there all I just saying,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: please don't need us, you know. And she didn't sleep,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: but it was all the way at the other end
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of the place, and she didn't sleep. Matter of fact,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: she couldn't move. She was basically paralyzed for the entire
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: night until he left. So that's part of that. What
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: they I think they call it being zapped, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is that you know, they're able to use that infra
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: sound to incapacitate you and they can naim it. Uh.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: There could be ten people there and they can target
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: just one person, you know. That's the crazy thing I've
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: heard of that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where there was I think it was actually I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: think it was actually Tim Gayhart. He was telling or
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: his wife wanted the two and he talking about there
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: was six men and four women or four men six women,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: something like that, and only the men got zapped and
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the women were fine.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it happened also, uh uh mel Scan out of jam.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, I've had him on too. I've spoken it
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: didn't happened to him while he was out there as well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: where there was three of them out there and only
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: two were affected, but he wasn't. And uh yeah, it's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: very strange. So that's and I think that's part of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the mental connection. Is they well they're masters of nature,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: which means you know basically they they've mastered quantum physics.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Sound like. I was just with Ron recently so and
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: him and I have had extensive conversations on the subject,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and I've always loved quantum physics. It's always fascinated me,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: especially since just before Einstein past. Einstein stated that he says, uh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I know now as much about quantum physics as I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: have the first time I ever heard about it. Another words,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: he had nothing more, you know, because it's such a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it's it's such a total state of chaos, and it's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: bringing order out of chaos, right. I mean, they're doing
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: things like string theory, quantum entanglement, just all kinds of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: different things, and it's actually proving that we live in
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: kind of a multiverse. Yeah, And I think as a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Sasquatch people actually have mastered a lot of these things,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: especially being able to raise or lower their frequency or
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: vibration for different things to happen. I was just talking
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to he's a Derby Orca from what is it, the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: North Carolina State University. He's gathering a team of science,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: young scientists that are the top of the top, and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they're actually going to use the university. They want us
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to send them all kinds of samples and so he
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: can train his class, but he wants to do it
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: on cryptis wow. And they also want him to teach
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a course, a master class on cryptozoology, and which is Yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: is starting to hit the mainstream and the science is
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: starting to step up. So yeah. I talked to Darby
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and UH told him, I said, you know one thing
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you want to add? Uh, what's your He started naming
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: off all the different sciences and everything that's going to
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: include DNA everything, I mean, just about every science you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: can think of. But one thing that he didn't happen
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: there was a geologist, and I told him the reason
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: for this is a lot of these sightings and places
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that they frequent are places of high courts right with
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: underground water, and what that causes is energy waves and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: frequency to create energy, especially as water is flowing underneath quarts,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: especially if it gets into a cavity where pulses, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: that causes a lot of power to be exerted from
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the earth. So you're looking at places of lay lines
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: or places that gold is found because gold runs in quarts. Okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: super cool. I got to keep me updated on that.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I would love to know about that, and.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: When it comes out and there's a course, I'm definitely
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: going to promote that. Well, that's what I want. I
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: mean personally, I want people to understand this from I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: really think William that be brash and cut you off
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: from a little bit that popped you a little bit
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes here. That I my feeling is the way
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you go about it is the way I think should
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: be done about it. It's like, okay, just open your mind,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: open your heart, and accept what you're seeing. And it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: kind of hard to quantify, but this is why what
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: at this University of North Carolina is the only it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: going to step up and start to do that. I
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: find that to be utterly fascinating and amazing. And it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, people like you know who've
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: done this forever, Ron moorehead and uh and the like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you know, they're kind, they're they're trying to they're slowly
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: getting their flowers and people are not looking at them
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: with the stink guy from the side when you actually
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: because people for some reason only respect academic you know, academia,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and now that there's someone who's in there doing that,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I find it to be utterly fascinating and I'm all
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: for it, dude.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Well, especially gathering a team, a full team of different disciplines,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you know, to open it all up and and everybody
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: together look at the evidence that's being presented. Great, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: it's things like just for the d NHS, if we
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: send it in it would cost about six thousand dollars.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: And then if you want to go down into the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: finest part, because a lot of those tests come back
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: as human even though we have video of them taking
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the samples, everything was done correctly, you know, so that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: tells me that they are part human, you know. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: but to do that little final test to really differentiate,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you know, just exactly how much difference there is, that's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: sixty four thousand dollars. That's why it's not we cannot
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: afford those things, but the university can provide that. Yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you know, not this I guess we can speculate.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But once say, for example, like a university gets a
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: hold of this and their findings are like, you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: however that is you know, whatever rigor they go through
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: to give it some type of like you know, like
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: thumbs up from the academic community, then what is the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: cascading effect that would be after through that. It makes
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: me just wonder and speculate, you know, like are they
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: going to be seen as I don't know citizens are there?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Is it going to affect the logging community?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Uh? You know what what would that be? That be like?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But but in the meantime it maybe will open up
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the field to other things in like paranormal dog man,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: other crypto's, tearodactyl. The people are seeing all kinds of strength.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Actually seen a tearodoctor twice, get at And that's the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: whole thing is is once your mind opens and expands,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you start to see other things. I don't know if
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it's a frequency change you have in your mind or
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: what happens, but different things start to happen, and uh,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you can't go back, you know, once your mind's expanded.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it just keeps going. But actually my ex
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: who believes in none of this, is the first one
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that deck walked in the door one day and said,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I think I just saw a pterodactyl fly through our
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: back area here. I'm like, yeah, okay, uh, and this
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: is somebody who would not expect this from And I said, okay,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: describe it to me, and she described it. I went,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: that sounds like a pterodactyl. And then about two years later,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'm back outside I smoke. I'm a smoker, but we
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: don't smoke in the house, and I'm out there having
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a cigarette and I look out and I look to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: my right end. I see this pterodactyl swoops through my yard.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: And this is new to me.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard of it, like, you know, in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: a peripheral and I'm going to have somebody on who's
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: going to actually talk about it, who you know, seen
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: him in Texas and kind of really like, could you
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: describe what you saw a little bit about that. Well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: one thing, I talked to King Garvard about it, Like
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I said, he's like my little brother, so so we
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: talk a lot about different things.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: There was actually one, and it's in one of his
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: h one of his books, that a ship of a
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: naval ship six hundred people saw a pterodacty go over
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the top. And this one looked just like what they
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: didn't describe it. It's just a typical terar doctor with
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a longbeak, kind of bat like wings, kind of hands
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: at the end, and but this one at the back
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: of the head had kind of a reddish bulb you know.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Everything else was just kind of a flat gray, you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: but it had a kind of a bulbous red just
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: back to about the last third of its skull, so
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and it kind of kind of wrinkled around the base
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and stuff like an old bull band, you know, is
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: what it is. But yeah, the second time I saw
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it was about another la and all three times it
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: was in the month of August, which was then I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: got to thinking about rifts and time. You know, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: could tear into the space time continuum. Maybe I'm looking
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: back into another time, you know. So there's another possibility
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: or they're why they still exist, you know, because they
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: are being seen all over the country. Another cryptos that
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I've seen is they hear in Oregon they say, uh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: black cougars do not exist. I've seen one within probably
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: ten ft of me, run by me when I lived
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: in a small town called the Canyonville, which is not
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: far from Myrtle Creek, where I've seen my my sasquatches.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And the good thing is is if you know, uh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Brett and I can murder from a flash of beauty. Okay,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: there's there's a movie you need to watch. The two
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: of them. Uh flash of beauty, Bigfoot revealed and flash
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of beauty, Uh big Foot floor normal. And what they're
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: doing is trying to bridge the community together from flesh
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and blood to the paranormal side. You know. So it's
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: not because it's all the same, it really is. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: was flesh and blood, you know, until my fist sidding
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and I started to see things that other people have described,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: things that I couldn't explain. Let me say, my third siding,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Like I said, my mom had been paralyzed everything else.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Then when about a week later come my force sighting
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: my mother and I. My mother actually witnessed this one.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: We're standing out my driveway and we're looking down the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: hill over the valley across our place on the other side.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And my mom actually knowed the flash of the green
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: ice first coming through trees across the other side of
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the valley. It's only, you know, maybe five hundred yards away,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and it's passed. You're up to this and you got
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to tree lines, and you know, it just goes on
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: up the mountain the other side. But she noticed those
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and she said, oh, look, and I look over and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I see about every third step he would turn and
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: look and you see the green eyes and looking directly
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: at us, and to me, it felt like he was
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: kind of saying goodbye, and which made sense because I
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: never saw another one for thirty eight years, but we
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: watched this saying and I was in great shape. I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: used to run those hills and stuff around there. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: used to run the top of the mountains and down
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and trying to get myself in good condition. And he
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: went across the field through the tree light and just glided.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: It was like nothing was back there, like there was
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: no trees, no stumps in the way or anything else.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: They just like glided right through them. And that's another
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: stunt of physics. Is one of the easiest ways to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: get from point A to point B is go through
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: things and it's like like nothing's there. And that's part
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of the steady glide that they have. And they are
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: so fast at times that it's it's almost incomprehensible. When
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you see see them move, it's just the fastest thing
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you ever saw, and it's and you're just going, what
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: did I just see? I have seen them cloaked, I've
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: seen them just disappear. They do have the language, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: they can speak our language. Mine actually called me by name.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: It's always when I get out to my research area.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I've always been here. I mean, I've been woke up
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: out of my sleep here in my home just a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: couple of months ago by my alpha female calling my name.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: We're out of a dead sleep. I sat straight up
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in bed. But yeah, just crazy stuff. But my mother
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and I watched him go cross inside the tree line,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and just like I said, about every third or four step,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: they would turn and look back at us as it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: still moving and gliding and up to the top and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: over the mountain. We watched them go walk all the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: way up and over the top, and that only took
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I'd say, about six minutes. And if it had been
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: me going through there in the shape I was in
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and being so familiar with the woods and trying to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: move up there, it would have taken me probably about
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: thirty to forty minutes. With this thing did in about
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: seven or eight minutes. Cool, good, absolutely incredible just to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: see it moving and then it did it so effortlessly,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: it was like there was nothing in its way.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: And then people wonder why you can't see them on
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: trail cams or why you know they they run by
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so fast, or sometimes they look like shadows, and sometimes
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: they just It's like, so I understand your your your
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: your line of thinking. When you're saying that these things
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: are quant them were something else that would have a
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: hard time to describe it, it makes complete sense to me.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I've had my my juvenile on my porch twice
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: cloaked that that predator thing where you write shimmering, it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like a little mirror shimmery. I saw that, and I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: like thinking, what what did I just see? And I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: looked after and I went because I like, I said,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: his name is JJ, and I said, uh, JJ, I
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: can see you. And I think they have to go
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: through these different stages and tests as they're growing up
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: to pass these different things to you know, kind of
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: like their their next continuation, ye passage or something. Write
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: a passage exactly, that's exactly the term. And uh what
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: was funny is uh probably about five days later I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: saw him again on my porch. What's the same thing
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: cloaked and saw that shimmer I went, I can still
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: see you. Within a few days of that, I go
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to think, on a second, let me grab something.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sorry if there's any distortions in the and
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the thing. Uh, do you have any earphones to put on?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Bill? Yeah, if you're having troubles or an echo.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of fuzzy echoes. I'm gonna
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: be doing quite a bit of edding on this one.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: No big deal, man, Alright, let me see now, I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: always prepared. Oh that's way better, Okay. I work in
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a very large store. I'm a teamster. I handle freight,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: so I work a graveyard ship. As you know, I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: work graveyard and uh, I'm rotating stock, which is a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: common thing. You know. You can hide nothing from the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Sasquatch people. I can tell you that right now. You
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: can't deceive them or and if you try tempt it,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you're probably never going to have another contact with him
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: as long as you live. Biggest thing with him is respect.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm pulling out stuff, so you take everything off
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the shelf. You're bringing everything from the back side. And
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: on the back shelf, I find this quart stone. Who
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: would put a quartz stone back behind my area? And
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: know that they could be there? It could be there
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: without you know, anybody else knowing what it is. And
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I knew it instantly when I found it that it
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: was likely my juvenile sasquatch pretty much telling me, hey,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I can come in your store, I can put something
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: here and leave without ever being seen. So it was
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: just instant that I knew. You know, that's exactly where
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: it came from. They give me stones and feathers and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: things like that all.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: The time, so they can. So what you're trying to
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: say is that they can read your intentions.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: They can read your mind like an open book.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: So even more so, even more in depth than what
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to describe.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they can. I mean I have a
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: connection with them. Where they've done a lot of work
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: on me is No, it's more mental teaching me different things.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: One of the biggest, biggest lessons was teaching me patients
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and if I'm not patient, they kind of let me
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: know one way or another. When I start thinking in
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a negative way, they kind of interrupt that and remind.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Me that you mean, when you mean negatively are they
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: are you saying that this is in your house or
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that you're somewhere, This is.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Where I this is wherever I am. It makes no difference.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's a it's kind of a constant connection. It's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: very strange for me to be even talking about things
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: like that because people think, people think, people think your bananas.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: But I know several of us are the same way.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: We have the same connections, like Arla Williams. If you
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: know who are the collect Williams is Tom Cantrell. Also
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: he has a mental connection with him. A matter of fact,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the reason that I even thought about any of this,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: let me jump to my fifth siding, my fist sighting
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: was actually to prove Tom Cantrol wrong. And what it
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: was all about. This was after I was in his book,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and you know a lot of the community is kind
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: of shunning because of the WU factor, you know, as
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: everybody calls it. But I set out to prove Tom wrong.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I was listening to the podcast Tom was doing and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: he says, uh before me, a mental connection with you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it lasts a lifetime. I'm like, okay, okay,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: well I'm gonna see what I can do to disprove this.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And also I had heard and part of my thing
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: was I still had that trauma. But a couple of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: months earlier, I was listening to somebody in a podcast
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: that says, you know what this is something I perseverated
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: on for weeks and weeks was they said they never
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: tried to hurt me. And I thought back to all
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the time, the four sightings I'd had previous, and went,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you know what, what am I afraid of? I've faced
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: every fear I ever had. I used to be afraid
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: of heights. So what would I do. I get a
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: job at an apple orchard and trimming trees and stuff.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I'm on one of those rickety three legged ladders that
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: they use because it has to have that third leg
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: so you can move it in and out between branches
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and stuff you can't use. You can't use a conventional ladder,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and he's that third leg so you can weave it
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: in between tripod or something. It's exactly a tripod and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: not the most stable feeling things in the world. But
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I got myself over fear of heights, any fears that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I had, because I always understood that I'm an avid reader.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I've been reading college level since I was probably eight
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: years old, and university level. I used to read hundreds
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of books, and as a matter of fact, i've read
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I've probably read tens of thousands of books, you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: just because I have a search for information and knowledge
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and it changes your outlook on things too, tell you,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: especially the world. But I've heard that they said, well,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: they never tried to hurt me. And I thought about
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that and thought about it and thought about it. That's
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: what perseveration is. In case a lot of folks don't
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: know the word. Yeah, they're not the only one. It's
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: about reseinking something and constantly going over, going over, going
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: over and going over it, and in your mind and
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: sometimes physically going over it, you know, speaking out about it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I was a caregiver and worked as a medical aid
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: for fourteen years, so I learned to write. I had
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: to write reports daily, sometimes eight ten, twelve different reports.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: They went to the federal government, they went to the
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: state government, they went to the company, and they go
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: into the permanent medical records of my patients. So I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: had to learn to write objectively and everything was subjective
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: rather than me. And the difference between objectivity and subjectivity,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: most people don't understand them. What the difference is. You
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: can say it all day to them, They're like, huh,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Darren headlights kind of thing. Writing objectively is
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: like saying they had a temperature of one hundred and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: four degrees, they were having cold sweats. They were cold
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to the touch, but sweaty different things. That means what
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: you're doing is you're just putting the facts right, writing
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the facts as they are you can physically measure them.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Now subjectively, you would be going, well, I think he's
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: got a fever and maybe has a cold. Well, right there,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you just blew it. You're you're you're actually describing something
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: without being authorized to, which is saying he's got a cold. Well,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that would be for a doctor to deal with it, right,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you know you that's that would be a subjective because
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: you're subjecting your own opinion into what you're writing. So
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: and if I wrote those incorrectly, which I think I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: maybe did one in an entire fourteen years that I
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: had to rewrite because I did something one little thing
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: that was subjective and have to rewrite because this is
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going into federal and state records and medical records. You know,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: it has to be done correctly. And that's the whole
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: thing I look in. The whole way I look at
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: sayings is the way I write. That's why King Gerhart
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: and I are good friends together, because he writes very
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: objectively not subjectively. He just puts the facts. He puts
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: what he's been told and the way things are, you know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: without adding any personal thing to it. Right, So that's
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that's the difference between objective, it's subjective.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: The way I've always understood those two concepts is like
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: subjectively is the way you see it, and objectively is
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: the way everyone sees it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it's basically staying in your own opinion, right, yeah, right,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's all it is. That's the only
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: difference is is you're not allowed to use your own opinions.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: All they want are the facts, period, nothing more, nothing less.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: So but I put separated on that they never tried
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: to hurt me, so what I did, and being what
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Tom said about them being mentally connected to you, I
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: spent an entire week thinking the four sightings that I had,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: but the last three were the same Alpha Male, and
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: it was like rehashing those in my mind, telling them,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I want to meet you, I want to see you.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I have no more I have no fear now and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I want to meet you. And I would also visualize
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the place I wanted to meet him, which is a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: place that I've been going to for over forty years
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I hunt there. Everything is, uh, there's very little traffic
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: out there. It's actually pretty close to the wilderness area.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: It's between a couple of rivers, high courts area. A
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: lot of gold mines in the area, right. You know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: at that time, I didn't correlate any of that with it, though,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: but I every wiki moment I had was I want
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: to meet you there. So time comes, I decided, Hey, Kip.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who Kip Marile is.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: He's he's another sasquatch researcher. Matter of fact, he's had
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: one of the few people that has thermal evidence.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, I would love to get in touch with anybody
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you think that I would be interested in talking with.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I would love to do all of them.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Honestly. He's out in the middle of the Lammett Forest,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: camping out. He's a retired firefighter, so he's once he retired,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: he bought an r V and off they go. And
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think they've they've landed anywhere since they're everywhere.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, that is the dream that would
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: be me. But uh, he was on its coast. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: don't know if you ever heard of squatch America, which
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: is uh uh Scott Bollett and his wife. They're actually
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: in Texas right now. Their mother lives just up the
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: road for me in Grant's Pass and uh but they
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: were coast with Kip, and I wanted to go over
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: and meet Kip because I hadn't met him yet, and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: so I wrote. Kip says, yeah, I'm gonna come over
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: there instead of going, you know, up to go do
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: this little challenge I had made for myself. And he's like, well,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I got some company coming, I'm not gonna be able
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to you know, hang out with you. And that was
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: not a good time. I was like, okay, so I said,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: hell with it. I went squatch, I'm going squatch it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Let's go do it. So I'm on my way up
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to that area and uh, I get to turn off
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: on the main road that'll take me to the right direction,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: and uh, I get this mind speak telepathy for the
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: first time ever and kind of blew my mind. I'm
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: looking around in my vehicle going, yeah, I'm the only
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: one in here. Where did all this voice come from?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: And what it was is, we're not going to meet
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: you where you wanted to meet And me, I've always
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: been opened minded. I'm like, okay, am I imagining things
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: or did that just actually happen? And a very strong
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: commanding voice, and so I just kind of like, okay,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: you're maybe you're hearing stuff. Just continue on my way
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: up there. And uh, So I get to the spot.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: My area starts about thirty two hundred foot elevation, okay,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And so I turn off and I start to hit
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: it up the road. There's a guy parked just up
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the road, and I stopped and chat with him for
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: a few minutes. I thought maybe he was lost. Uh
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: he was a transplant from California. He's just looking for
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a place to write his his four wheelers and stuff
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: and goof off in the woods. I told him, tell
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: him about the area and everything. It's a good spot.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: So we talked for about half an hour, and I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: continue on. I didn't say mention a word about Sasquash.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I think I'm freaking bananas. Yeah, And so I get
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that I'm headed up towards the area. The area I'm
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: going to is a prairie area, and so I'm start
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: heading up there. I get a little over two miles
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: up and I passed this little area that I call
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: the Triangle marsh. It's a very marshy area, but it's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: open and but a shape like a triangle. And I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: get past that, probably four or five hundred yards past it,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and there's a wall of stone, and it's like, well,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going any further than that, ding
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: in my mind about we're not going to meet you
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: where you wanted to meet, you know. So I backtrack,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: come down and I parked up the Triangles Marsh area
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and the other guy that I met down the road
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: caught up with me. I said, you don't want to
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: go any further, and said you're not going to get
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: any further, matter of fact. So we sat there and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: shatted for about a half an hour and another guy
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: comes flying up the road. We're both laughing, going, oh,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: he'll be back in a minute. Nope, turns out comes
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: back down and it's like, yeah, you're not gonna get
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: any further than we are. It's because if there's three
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: figure of snow right there at the top of the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: mountain about fifty two hundred feet, there's probably ten feet
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: of snow at least. It's about the same height as
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Crater Lake. If you've ever heard of Crater Lake beautiful.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I've never been in the Rocky Mountains. I've never been
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: into Rocky mountains, but I have been in the Alps
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: many many times.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're in. I'm in the Cascades and here
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: in Medford. The cool part is I'm where the coast
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: range of the Cascades meets the regular Cascade range. They
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: all meet right here, Okay, just south of Medford, so
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: it's a great spot. I never that's up near Eugene,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: right the south of Eugene. Right, No, I'm about two
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy miles south of Eugene. Yeah, Eugene. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Eugene's almost two hundred miles from the border. I'm only
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: thirty miles from the border and one hundred miles from
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Bluff Creek as the cross right, And which is really
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: cool because my alpha female looks just like Patty, no kidding,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's very interesting. Matter of fact, I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: do have pictures, okay from my last siding, which was
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: with her and the juvenile JJ. Matter of fact, a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, he's former Nssay. He's worked in Hollywood
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: for twenty five years in the film industry. He's actually
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: enhancing those photos right now. When I sent him to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: him here, which was just actually a few days ago,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: blew his mind. He's like, holy.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Crap, he says, So they're really good and clear and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: us well, it.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Was done with the cell phone, but not the greatest
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: cell phone. So but I was only sixty eight feet away,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and he thinks he can bring out a lot of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the detailer it. And it's not just her, it's her
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: and the juvenile JJ sasquatch. And there's one more and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: it was probably on her back as she had a toddler,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and so I figure, you know, that's not gonna I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: don't think that'll show up in the picture. Matter of fact,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it physically while I was standing there.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: That encounter actually lasted an hour and a half and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: only cut short because I had adulting duties to go do.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I do take my responsibilities seriously, even if I'm in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the middle of a sasquatch encounter.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, where we're grown men with families and we.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Have things that we have to do. That's what we do.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: That's what they do. Getting back to the Fist siding
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: where I actually invited them there, I went down into
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the area so I could get a good spot to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: overview for the Triangle Marsh area. I found a nice
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: little Douglas fur that was there that had a root
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: coming up that came out as like a bitch, and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this will work. Tom's way is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: called armchair squatching, and I'm like, yeah, okay, well I'm
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: going to try this out. So he says, take a lunch,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: take a book, which is exactly what I did, and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: sit down and relax and let him come to you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we'll see. First thing I did when
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I sat down is I thought, in my mind, if
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: you're here, give me a tree knock. Wasn't a couple
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: of seconds later, I heard a tree knock from about
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: a quarter mile away, and I'm thinking to myself, well,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: maybe that's an anomaly, you know. Did I hear what
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I just heard? And so I sat there for a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: couple of minutes, And the funniest part was is I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: brought the sasquatch face to Facebook that I'm in and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: that's what I was finishing reading. Okay, so I'm saying
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: that I'm just kind of relaxing. Then I hear from
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the same direction, but really close a whistle and it
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: came from which is just a southwest, and then from
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: the west I heard another whistle, and then directly behind
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: me from the north, I heard another whistle, all the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: same same whistle. I'm like, that's not a bird that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. I've spent most of my life in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: these woods, and uh like, that's kind of a tactical
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I'm surrounded on three sides. The earlier
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to my vehicle is open, like if I would something
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: wanted to escort me out. My area is open that
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I can go directly back to my vehicle and access
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the area. So I thought that was really interesting. And
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: about a minute later, I look over to my left
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: and I see something there. You know, I know this
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: area very well. I know every bush and tree and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: nook and cranny and stump and down wall there is
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: because I've been going up there for over forty years.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: And I look over and what should have been a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: clear area, I see this sobery looking kind of look
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: like a bush. So I did kind of the cartoon thing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Rub my eyes looked out of the end. Rub my
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: eyes again, make sure, okay, focus right and look over again.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: It's like oh you're here. He's there, kind of sitting
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: on his heels, knuckles physicallyund in front of him with
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: its head down, so just look like a bush. And
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: one of my questions that I was taking on my
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: way up, because they have strange ways of answering your question.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: They will physically show you rather than tell you. And
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how does one hide and plain sight? If
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was looking at over there,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I would have never noticed them, could have walked right
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: by him, would have never noticed them, could have been
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: within feet of them, would have never noticed them. And
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, you're there. So one of tom
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: sings is you wanted to last ignore them, act like
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: they're not there. So I'm running through all this stuff
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: in my mind going okay, I want this to last.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I want to hang out with him. It's like I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: was in so much fear for so long and this
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: is my opportunity to let it go. And I did
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: let it go. I have no fear of them whatsoever.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And next thing I heard directly from my west where
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the other whistle came from, was three machine gun taps
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: tree knocks. It was so fast types of tap and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: look over. I should have been able to see what
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, and I saw nothing there. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: mean I could see down in the woods probably I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: would say forty yards, you know, fairly clear. And I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: saw absolutely nothing, heard nothing but those tree knocks. So
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: not every five minutes or so, I get it stretched.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: And you know, I had a lot of back pain
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: at the time, which I've been healed of thanks to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: my alpha female. I look over and standing next to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Bugary Bush, the alpha male, is this juvenile just kind
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: of standing there, got a little bit of a weave
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: back and forth right, and I'm looking at just saying, going, God,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of. You know, these
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: these these new millennial kids that are out that their
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: arms are about that big around. Yeah, you know, they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: look like a stick figure because all of the heaviest
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: thing they've ever lifted is a game and they never
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: come out of the basement or the cell phone. And uh,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, going, he just looks like a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: figure with hair. I can see his kind I was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: hanging about about six inches down, just black as black
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: here ever saw and matter of fact that his black
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: looks like it's more of a would absorb light like
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: a bear. Does you shine a flashlight on a bear?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: It absorbs the light. It's a very strange thing, you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: know when that happens. And it would be seems to
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: be would be about the same thing with him as well.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: But he's standing there next to the male standing up.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: He was about five feet tall at the time. Right
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: now he's a little over six feet And Uh, I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: settered read my book every few minutes, stand up, crack
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: my back a little bit, you know, you know, and uh,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: look over at him. Yep, still there. So this lasted
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: till for forty five minutes, and uh then uh, they
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: were gone. So I went and looked up, walked up
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the roads, and I was like, well, I know that
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: little stock came from the west, so he had to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: come down the road. And I found three tracks, three footprints,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: all in line. I took pictures of him, and I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: sent him to Randy Sylvie. Randy Sylvie's with the Bend
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot Research Group over in eastern Oregon here out of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: the Bend, and Randy and I blame him for all
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: this stuff as far as getting me into the sasquatch world.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I still blame me matter of fact, I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: saw him last week and I still I blame you.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: You know that, Yes, I do it, saw your paulp.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I have never said a word. Yeah, I'll still be
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: keeping this stuff a secret. I kept to myself for
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: thirty eight years. Never told anybody in my family about it. Wow.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: The only one that knew was my mom and I,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and we never really discussed it much. Just
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a crazy thing. And the first person that I ever
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: told my story outside of my family was Cliff Merrickman
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: and James Fay and I had been chatting back and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: forth on the internet a couple of months previous to
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Cliff had a thing going on over in East Oregon
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: in Bend called big Foot and Bruce. It's put on
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: by a great lady named Cindy Rose Cadell. She actually
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: is an archaeologist for the Forest Service. But he set
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: that up. There was Cliff was there, Mark Burcell was there.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: If you know Mark Marcel eight Canyon, Mark's probably the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: foremost expert on eight Canyon. He's done the most investigation
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: of anybody and as far as gathering information and anything
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to do with a canyon. Shelley coming to Montana was there.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Shane Corson was there, and just to name a few,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: and Kim Gerhart was there. That was Canaan I's first meeting,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and we just bonded instantly. The first person, I'm standing
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: out a curb. I didn't know anybody. I knew who
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Cliff was. I knew who Kim Garrett Gearhart was because
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I'd seen him on different shows and stuff, and usually
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: something about some cryptid saying somewhere or some unknown crazy thing,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and market I understanding with the curb, I'm having a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: cigarette and uh, so I told him about my second
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: encounter of the face to face first person I'd ever told,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: you know, outside of my you know, discussing talking with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: my family, and it was the most liberating thing, right.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I kept it so deep inside for thirty eight years,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: but I remember every single detail. It's like everything happened
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: in slow motion, and I I have not forget a saying.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: It's etched in my memory so deep. This is mind
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: blowing for something to be that vivid still after all
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: this time, because it was traumatizing, you know, I mean,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: it just absolutely terrified me. So I told Mark my story,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: and uh, I didn't know who Mark was. I didn't
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: know he was part of the whole thing TI to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Nate Canyon presentation. I'm like, oh, that's cool. Uh so
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: this guy's part of all this. Okay, well that's cool.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: And then Cliff come walking in and my ex and
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I she wasn't my ax at the time. But Cliff
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: looks over and says, hey, Bill, my ac about fell
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: out of her chairs. He knows your name. Yeah, So
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I said, we've been talking for months, and I said
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: about back and forth on these sayings and stuff. And
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: that's how I actually knew all this was going on
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: over there. So it was time to get over there,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: and it was time to get this off my chest. Uh.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: And I did uh talk to King Garrett heard about it,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: said Mark Marcel Cliff. And that's the day when I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: told Cliff he had, you know, the eyes of my
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: sasquash for greams, you know, and that he looked at
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: me like a deer in the headlights. So I've gave
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: him crap for that ever since. Matter of fact, that
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you go up to Cliff and say yeah, Bill Morris says, hi,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: he'll like who He doesn't corelate, He doesn't correlate the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: name Bill and William together you say, William Morris. Oh, yeah,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I know, William. But you say, Bill, who's that? A
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: friend of mine was up there a few weeks ago
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: and he showed him a picture this guy, Oh William.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: He started to laugh and I said, yeah, I don't
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: know what it is. I said, but you called me
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Bill and he has no clue. But you say, William,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: he knows exactly who the hell you're talking about. Right, So.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: We're kind of running a little a little time though.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I was just wondering. I mean I could, honestly, William,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I could talk to you for hours.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I could subject. Yeah, don't worries that you're.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: You've shared a lot of You shared a lot of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: information that made me feel different about this whole situation
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: as well. And I really appreciate you doing that. And
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I would like to offer an open and open invitation
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: for you to come back home whenever the time is promoted.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And one thing I let people know is about
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: this university study. Yest's that one more time right now
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: is going to be pinnacle and and leaps and bounds
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: in our research. And it's not going to cost us anything.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: The university is going to pay for it. Okay, this
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: is just a DNA study. Let me read this card
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: to you, say, do you have potentially interesting and an
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: interesting biological sample? Uh? Fill out this form. It's uh
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: h GPPs, uh CSC dash RC dot CVM dot n
• 1:15:08
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• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: dot ed U, backslash surveys, backslash question mark, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff with it. Actually, I'm gonna put
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  Speaker 1: this up here right there is a QR code people
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  Speaker 1: can code on and click on that saying let me
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  Speaker 1: steady my hand here, okay, And you can click on
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  Speaker 1: that and that will give you the information for the universe.
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  Speaker 2: You can do me a favor. If you can do
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  Speaker 2: me a favor, William, you can send that to me.
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  Speaker 2: Send that to me like a picture for him, and
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  Speaker 2: then I can put that up at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the show. That way, I can like freeze frame it
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: for about ten seconds right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the cloud has captured my photo program, so I
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  Speaker 1: cannot even load a picture into my computer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'll do my best to freeze frame that,
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  Speaker 2: expand it, and then I'll check it on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, work that will probably work. If not,
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  Speaker 1: text me and i'll or I mean, just send me
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  Speaker 1: a p M with your number and i'll uh, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just take a picture of it and then text it
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  Speaker 1: to you. Okay, but uh, he's gathered a team of
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  Speaker 1: scientists of every different possibility Darby, Dr b Y work
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  Speaker 1: cut O r c U T T in North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: State University. But this could help us leafs and bounds
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  Speaker 1: Carolina State like the wolf pack the teams. Okay, now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this could help us with leafs and bounds of evidence.
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  Speaker 1: So if you what what he said they were doing
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: is they would just go out in the yard and
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  Speaker 1: dig up a little dirt and do a DNA test
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  Speaker 1: on it, you know what a waste of money when
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  Speaker 1: they can actually be doing something real with it. If
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  Speaker 1: you've got a feast, the sample that might be sasquatch
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: or crypted of any kind, hair sample, anything like that,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to say, physical sample that you could send to them
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  Speaker 1: and uh get to them and they will test it.
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  Speaker 1: And well, sorry, this was a bear. This was this,
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  Speaker 1: This was that. But it's giving their scientists team practice.
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  Speaker 1: Is there is there a certain name for this, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's North Carolina State University study is Okay, I want
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  Speaker 1: to make that I'm going to make that the moniker
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: of this show that when people say okay, bo blah
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: blah blah that way, when they click on they go,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: oh wow, there's a place you can really go. I
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: want to do my very best. Yeah, this is a real,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: real place. And I met Doby at the when I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: was up there with mister Todd Dace. Uh, we had
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: lots of speakers. Ron Moorehead was just excellent. Uh. I
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  Speaker 1: just love talking to him. A niece any iss any iss,
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  Speaker 1: yes in EISs Okay, Yeah. Unfortunately, this was the last
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: beach Foot there ever will be. If you ever heard
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: of beach Foot, that's his baby. Okay. They went on
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: for eighteen years. It's invitation only. It's only for the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: top researchers in the world, and this was the last
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: one he was going to have. He might start something.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: He's moved back to Arkansas. He was living here in Welch's, Oregon,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: which is near the mount Hood Wilderness, and as a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I was up there after Beachfoot. I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: went camping with Marie Dumont from the Mid Florida Bigfoot
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Research Crew, one of her partners, Bob and two of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the Red dirt cryptid crew in the wilderness of the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: mount Hood and I actually had a sasquatch at my
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: timp for thirty minutes cool or last night there, which
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: was cool. He was tapping on my cast iron pain
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and I think he wanted me to get it and
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: feed him. Seriously, it was it was. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a lot more, trust.
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  Speaker 2: Me, There's a lot more we can talk about. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I just I normally do this for about hour. The
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: hour will be about hour and twenty minutes in. But
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I would definitely contact you again, and I'm going to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: make sure that this is I'm going to look it
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: up myself, going to the internet and find I'm sure
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: you could find something about.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: This right if you want. Oh absolutely there should be
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: something on there. Okay, if anything, you know, you could
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: just go to page to Derby, you know, look up
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Derby or Court. Okay. I contact him, okay, Yeah, ask
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: him about to study and get a little information on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: it and tell him you know, you heard this was
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: going on and you'd like to get it out there. Yeah,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: he's gonna interview me, especially about the geological part, and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: you know what my feelings are and why you know
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: that I'm asking him to add a geologist to team. Yeah, Okay,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: if anybody wants to contact me, they can contact me.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Like I said on Facebook under mustanger Bill Mustang, Yes,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: and do you ride for I used to specialize in
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: training wild mustangs, which are the easiest horuses in the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: world to train because nobody screwed them up. Yet we'll
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: get there. So Bill, I appreciate so much you coming
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  Speaker 1: on to talk with me today.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I'll have people I'll put up your Facebook they want
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: to reach out to you, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: see if i can find mister mister Orcott, and I'm
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: going to promote this as that when it's going to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: be my thumbnail, it's going to be the whole deal.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: That way, people, is that way we can get some legitimacy,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: not that we don't have it, we already do have it,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna make it where it has some type
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: of you know, ste We're going.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: To have science. Yeah, total academia and science backed by science.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: You know. Like I said, it's an entire team of
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: scientist that he's gathering together. And this is what he
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: does is gather the right people together to find it,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: get information. So this is actually his forte So he's
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: getting this team together. He's also gonna be being asked
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: to teach a master class of crypto zulogy to scientists.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be one heck of a project and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be wild woo. Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seeing what kind of what kind of springs off of,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: what kind of what kind of tangents come off of
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: it and all that, and uh, I'm like, yeah, this
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: is this is cool that I just to get the
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: information in my ear just for me is uh, I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: don't know, man, It's it's so cool and uh and hopefully,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: like you know, regular people in the street will go
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: oh yeah big for that. It's kind of like, you know,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: it would be like the the duck Bill Platyfums of
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: the future, but not also you know what I mean.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: It's got a lot of little things. Personally, personally, I'm
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: not interested because in proving anything, because the economical impact
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: it will have, you know, like you said, the mining, logging, industry, recreation,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be impacted by it. Yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. But
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's a right step forward. And I really
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: appreciate that you just disseminated that information to me so
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: that I can go ahead and take it and do, yeah,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: a little bit of grab that I have on the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: internet to make it move forward a little bit.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'm sure Darby will very much
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, and the whole Sasquash community. Actually, I appreciate it.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: It's gonna benefit us all absolutely, So thank you Bill
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: so much for coming on a check and yeah and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: remember guy, yeah we will.
• 1:22:37
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