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Soundtrack to a Recession · Pop Culture Junkie®

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Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie podcast. I'm Olivia here with my fellow Junkie.--
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Shauna and you know what listeners it feels like it's been a while because it has been but
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what have you been obsessed with recently? I've been obsessed with just like making it through
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what I'm going to the next. She's sure any week all right? So, staring into the void,
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using slipping silently into madness. You know it has been a while. I know you travel too much
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and I miss you whenever you're gone. But I have been watching a lot of stuff. I have a list.
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Okay, the void has colors. The void has colors. There is stuff in the void. Okay. I slip into it
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and then I turn on television. Everything feels right again. Yeah. All right, I will vote for you.
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I'm going to do a quick rundown. Okay. And some of them are pops. Send up them are drops.
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And some are a little in between airs. Okay. Okay. Real vast. Umbrella Academy aired its final
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season. Do you watch that show? No, I never have. And I've heard good things. The first couple
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seasons are very good. This last season was short. It was only I want to say eight. So it's
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wrong. Why don't you stop for us to keep doing? I don't know. And so it definitely feels rushed.
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And there's a lot of character choices that are questionable, including one romantic relationship
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that comes out of nowhere. Yeah. With characters who are seemingly other already in relationships.
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Okay. I don't know. There's this like gossip girl and we're like, much shuffled. Literally. It's
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like it's the final season. Why don't we just put her with him instead of him? Yeah. It's I don't know.
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So it was a little strange ending. But overall, you know, I've always enjoyed watching that show.
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I'm going to go a little middle on the ending. The final episode. I won't spoil it for anybody who's
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listening. But I don't know how I also wanted to end other than what it did. So would you so recommend
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people watch the show as a whole as a whole as like an entire four-season art? Yes, absolutely.
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Okay. I really liked it as an entire series. Okay. Did it stick the landing? I think it did a
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couple flips and they cut it tripped in the end and still maybe got a top four. I don't know. Yeah.
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It is tricky to find an ending that everyone loves. Absolutely. And I've seen a lot of stuff online.
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If people just hating this season. Yeah. And I didn't hate it. I didn't think it was like
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game of thrones level. Yeah. Next or level. Yeah. Bullshit. But speaking of, we in our absence,
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tossing the dragon ended. Yeah. How do you feel about that ending? You know, I really was on the edge
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of my seat for a couple scenes. Okay. We are going to get spoilery with this one as it aired. God, like
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a couple of weeks ago. I don't know. But Alice, it comes to Ranera and it's like, yeah, bitch, I'm out.
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Take it. Yeah. My sons are either rotting or insane. She's like, yeah, I'm not all bad. She will
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analysis. My daughter float in the river somewhere that's stare at the sky. Yeah. It just
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bitch. You run away here is how you take over. Here it is. Yes. Overplatter. So I saw this in front of
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the CEO of my company. Just know how incredibly and appropriate. I said the entire season to
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a house of the dragon felt like edging. And he was like, I'm unfamiliar with the term edging.
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No. And so this is giving. And Brad Perry was here. And we like said some word. He's like, what is that?
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Yeah. And we're like, shit. Now we got to tell Brad Perry what edging is. And he's like, he's
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show, but we were on a large table of 10 people from my company. And I just pulled up Irving
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Dictionary. And I was like, this is what Irving Dictionary said. I jump it. He says it out loud. Yeah. And
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he's just like, got it. That entire season was edging. And I never reach my wall. I got right to
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the end where you're trying to. And then you can't. Yeah. That final phone. So you just said, yeah,
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it was fun. But maybe we should call it right here. Yeah. Because the end of season one was so
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yeah, like you were just like, I want more. Yeah. They're going into dangerous territory, I think. And
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they I think they were stirring up some Game of Thrones last season haters with that. And didn't
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go and think it was that bad. I think if season three doesn't start off with an absolute like
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finger like we're at war like this is going people are like turn on it. I think so too. Like I I
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haven't turned on it. Yeah. But I've been watching a lot of I watched most shows with my husband.
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And he's such a hater. Literally a brelic had me by the end. He's like, this is bullshit.
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I hate so many things. Yeah. And I was like, it was not that bad. Okay. And then we're like
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nearing the end of season two of House of Dragon. He's like, this show sucks. And I'm like,
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you are being way too definitive with this is bullshit and this sucks. They're interested.
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You want? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So he's very in the moment. Yeah. He was like, this is boring.
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This sucks. And I'm like, I don't think it's boring. Like I think they're again edge just a little too much.
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I know. And if you edge somebody that hard, you're even with blue balls. Yeah. Or make them come.
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They're asked we want to be other is another argument why you should have 10 episodes per season.
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And HV all kind of now Netflix cut it out. Like Bridgerton would have been so much better if it
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had been 10 episodes. Is it not enough? Bridgerton season three that relationship. Yeah. So
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rush. Yeah. Which is why I see my face eight. Bridgerton. And we used to have like lost, which was a 25
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episode season. And that's a little too much to me. Like all of the shows that I'm going to do.
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You're like 26 episodes. You get all those fillers in the middle. Yeah. But like Buffy and Angel were all 25, 26 episodes.
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And it was wrong. Dang it. Bring that back. Like I, again, it's expensive. But if they were doing it in the
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I do. I can do it. Yeah. Yeah. No. And then like, I'm thinking like stranger things. They all,
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they had shorter seasons, but each episode was like two hours. Yeah. Or something. So it was like, I
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almost like don't like each time. Though where it's really long. Yeah. Like I kind of like the little break.
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Like the mid-season. Like family. Get more water. Go to the bathroom. You know. That's with the pause buttons. Yeah.
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No. No, no. No. No pausing. Yeah. And a binge. It's like, okay, title. I know. I go. You know, I had a mid-season finale.
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That's another show that wasn't even on my list. Again, so fucking goofy. This is and it kinda guys always goofy. This shows goofy. Okay, that was a point of pain.
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But there's a lot of points this season where I went this whole episode was unnecessary if they all just communicated with each other.
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If they all just treated the situation like adults that is the most frustrating trope all times.
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If you just had a conversation and were like, who do we think we should send to the
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Hintai Sentai? I don't remember what it's called. Hintai. There's like in this karate championship that they're all trying to go to.
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And it's like the the Sentai Hintai.
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No, it's just you.
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Dude, it was sentai Hintai and it's like karate championship.
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Count me in. I don't want to get there too.
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And it's so obvious. Wish of the characters should go because they're like, we got to use our top six karate fighters to go.
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There's six of them? There's like, there's 25 karate kids on this show.
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You don't matter. You'll see a kid in the background. He's like, just say and you're like, who the fuck are you?
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And he's like, maybe I'm gonna get chosen for the anti-Sintai. No, you're not. No, you're not.
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Oh wow. That the main six characters, you're like, it's gonna be them and then they throw in, I don't know if they would have just been like,
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we're gonna treat this like adults and choose our top six.
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They would cut out so many episodes.
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Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Well, maybe you're gonna feel just like, it had to be like 12 people, you know,
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dude. No, the Hintai Sentai will only take your top six. No, I'm not like 12 characters that they were like fighting,
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like 12 total in the competition. So 25, you know. It's so tough. It's so tough.
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Okay. And then there's an evil karate organization's working in the shadow.
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Okay. You can tell they're evil because they're Asian. It's like weirdly racist. I don't know. It's just,
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oh, why? Like the squirrel?
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He's like, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't even gonna go off like cover cover.
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I got rid of him. Okay.
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Speaking of going back to boring shows, I'm about to say something a little controversial.
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Yeah. And I will not spoil this show. Okay.
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Because I know you have not started season three. Season three of the bear is incredibly boring.
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Like I am, I saw them first too so far and he in thoughts who get through boring. Yeah. I can't.
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No, not the third season. Curls. It's so boring. And please, if anybody's watching this,
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they're like, no, it's artistic. I think it's reached new levels of like pretentiousness. I could see that.
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And they're trying to be artsy and deep, but it's just boring. It's just not hitting the way they want
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them to. No, there's just wandering, the andering conversations between characters that don't need
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to be happening. Yeah. And characters will pop up and you'll go, who is that again? Oh, I guess it's
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important. Okay. And no, we need to spend the next 15 minutes breaking down his childhood trauma.
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Okay. What's like, I don't know, it just, I'm the Christmas episode and the one where Sydney accidentally
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makes all those to go orders. Yeah. Like those are such good ups. And there's so much screaming.
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There's less screaming this season two, which I actually kind of bet. Okay. You don't know.
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Season three of the bear, please let me know if you have a very different one. You're in me. Yeah.
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Papa, but I am who I'm into here once I get there. I kind of took too much of the bear in, you know,
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I put myself in a bear food coma. You were, and I'm ready to go back. Yeah. You know, I was full on it.
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I'm ready to get back into it. You digest it. Yeah. To get through. Yeah. She's ready. Okay.
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Next on my list is show that I recently discovered that I've been bingeing that I'm really into.
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Where the actress is from, Cocoa Pia's at it. It's a show called School Spirits. It is a paramount plus
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original, but I've found it on Netflix. I'm not sure. That's possible. Somebody explained it to me.
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Maybe they created stuff. I don't know. Swapped pics. I think so. I think they might have swapped some
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pics. Yeah. Hey, who do you have? Who do you have? That's Sydney's called Spirits.
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And who do you have? I did. If you show me yours.
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Simea went and Peyton, uh, of Whitney Peyton. Shout out to Whitney Peyton. We love you. Peyton
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list is the actress in this show. Simea's on Peyton list content. Okay. So School Spirits is a show.
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It's one season long so far. They are quoting season two. And it's about a bunch of high school students.
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The main girl, Maddie, was murdered at her high school. And she wakes up as a ghost. I have heard
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about this. Yes. And she and a bunch of other ghosts who have died throughout the past 50 years.
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Is this really just children are there in the school? A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot.
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Yes. A Spestus in the Wallas. What's going on there? A peanut. When he wasn't surprised to. A
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bunch of kids died on like a school bay and marching trip. Buzz accident. Okay. Long girls like
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guidance counselor murdered her. We don't know at the point I'm in and season one. How Maddie was murdered.
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But she wakes up dead. I have heard this was good. I am really enjoying it. Okay. So it's got a great cast.
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Everybody has their place. She's got one group of friends who are all ghosts. So it's like the dead
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friends who are haunting the school. It's a dark comedy. Yeah. They all know how they died.
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Maddie doesn't know how she died, which is kind of unusual if I guess for a ghost. Do not remember.
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Or like not know yet. The exact. Yeah. So I'm sure the finale of season one will find out how she died.
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Maybe find her body because she can't they no one has found her body. And so she's going around the
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school and like kind of following her boyfriend around. She's just my. Yeah. And like he was cheating
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on her and like it's just all this scandal scandal and drama and I got a little misty eye in the
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her. He's got this own. Okay. Yeah. Sounds like I need to watch that. That sounds amazing. It's really
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funny and like reminds me of. I don't know like those kind of fluffy eyes on the S. Life's the
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female character and she's. I don't know powers that she's dead and she's watching her school. Yeah.
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Trying to solve real murder. I'm a believer that Spooky season starts right after 4th of July.
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So I literally was like do I put my home decorations out years or any hour because he had it.
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Spooky July party. I took them down a lot. I know. Well my office is always home. Yeah.
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And it's always for me. But I took down my house. Like I'm already I've already planned some
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spooky events at my apartment. Really? You can come. She's like it's with it's with the middle school
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friends. But we could also paint pumpkins because for some reason when I try to get a pumpkin and
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my body doesn't like it. I love painting pumpkins. Yeah. So I think that might have a Halloween party.
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If you want to eat something you should because then it'll be cool and I can stand the backyard.
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That's true. We could put down a cup for you and you could say there. Olivia's very allergic to my
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stuff. Yeah. And we've tried all the remedial symptoms. We haven't tried you sleeping in the yard.
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Yeah. We'll report back. Give me a drug and we might try to. I didn't even think about that though.
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Maybe I won't have one because I don't want you to be in this wrong issue. But I can say I'm longer.
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Okay. We'll talk about this later. We need something of our costumes too. Okay. The one final thing
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is Love Island that show. Oh my god. I have two final things. Love Island.
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Airdits reunion last night. It was screaming. It was incredible. I am officially obsessed with this
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show. I can't wait for the next season. Yeah. Summer. You have to watch it. So you're going to go back and
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watch some of the UK ones. I know. Now maybe hunt boring enough. I mean I have so much content. I'm
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shocked. Yeah. Right now. If you're a love island, girly message also to what seasons of the UK.
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To watch because apparently it's a good idea. UK is better than the US. This is the first season where the US
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has been good. Yeah. Do you know these people love Ariana Grande? Are you a continuing? Do you like
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the love Ariana Madden? I feel like she was hilarious. And from DPR and kind of brought that people
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wanted to make the show. So yeah. Successful. So and but yeah. I loved all of them on the show. I
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loved Kayla. Fuck Evan and Serena and Portell with his cheeses. I just I loved it all. So I'm going to
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pop love Island. And then finally I watched Alien Romulus, the newest Alien movie. Okay. And I'm
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going to pop that too. I really enjoyed it. It was like a good mix between like Prometheus,
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like those kind of newer more recent Alien movies, but then also like the older one. Lots of throwbacks,
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the original. I don't know. I really just like the Alien universe. And so I'm going to watch
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anything that comes out. Yeah. Okay. But yeah. So I would pop that. It's a good time.
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All right. There's facehuggers. There's chest bursters. There's the bar. There's the chest burst.
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Well, that sounds really bad. I'm done. I think I got through everything.
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So I've been on the opposite side of watching things. I have been keeping up with
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the Kardashians. Not really. What we did actually watch some episodes of Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
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Yeah. A little teaser for upcoming episodes. Stay tuned. But no, I've been keeping up with all
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this Blake Live. We it ends with us. Drama. I can't stop watching it. Which for
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all I know what I think is the craziest thing is everyone like jumping to this Justin Baldone guy
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and to be fair, I know nothing about this and nothing. And Colleen Hoover is a very controversial
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author in general. She said on the road that the movie's going to be the end of the book. It ends
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with us. It was already very controversial for glamorizing like TV. Yeah. And so it was kind of like
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a curse project. But did you ever read it? No. No. I'm actually never going to call it a
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new bird. I've been told to stay away. My job is their fairy having sex. No. No. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. So
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this rumor drama gets started and everyone on the cast. Justin Baldone is the director of the producer
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and the actor. And he's the main actor. And not a single one from the cast follows this man. He
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his own co-host isn't even like tagging him in things. And all of a sudden everyone was like it's
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like fault. But Justin Baldone is an advocate for less toxic. And I was like, any why? It was like
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this is why I say or men are weaponizing therapy. Yes. They really are. And like they got one therapy
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session and they're like, you're just lighting. Yeah. And I to be fair, like I think the way he is
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talking about the message of the movie is probably a little bit better than the way Black Lives Matter is.
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She just the way the people have jumped on hating Black Lives Matter. And like you can just admit that
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like you wish you had her hair. Like it's okay. She's not. Let's honestly know. Like whoa. Okay, first of all
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Deadpool vs Wolverine came out like a month ago and it smashed it. Everybody globally loves this movie.
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So we all love Ryan Reynolds and him and Blake Lively are kind of like a little package deal.
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They're so wildly in love when it's him who has a movie out. Then we're all like, oh my god, this is
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the cutest couple. Holly would look at her supporter man. And she has like a very small bit heart spoilers
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for Deadpool. Yeah, spoiler. And it's very. She's Lady Deadpool. Maybe she ever takes off her mask.
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Yeah, you hear her voice. Yeah. And then when she has a movie coming out, all of a sudden all of these
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seemingly like feminist websites like very Sue are digging up any article they can find that is
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anti Blake Lively in posting like 15 times a day. Yeah, he was crazy to me. I was like, first of all
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any guy who's like, I'm a nice guy. Not probably not a nice guy. Yeah, like if you have to say it,
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like you're probably not. No, no, absolutely. And yeah, it's been very, very interesting. I was like,
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well, every time I'm like, yeah, we're getting so far. I'm like, just kidding. No. And like, okay, I've
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heard the commentary that Ryan Reynolds got married to plantation, right? Yeah, that's problematic.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Why didn't we talk about that when Ryan Reynolds had movie? Yeah. Why is this coming
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back up in the news now that Blake Lively is? Yeah, I mean, it's so misogynistic. And obviously it's
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problematic. You married it. Funky plantation. Yeah, don't do it. Super topic. Yeah, to that.
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Exactly. They're wedding did cause Pinterest to no longer allow searching plantation. What are you
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really? So, you know, some interesting stuff. What else have I been obsessed with? Very
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demure, very mindful. See how I show up to the function. You would know, like you have been
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demure in our life. No, I could not stop saying it. I was in San Francisco this last weekend. And I
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went to a drug show and I just kept saying very demure, very mindful. See how we show up to the
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function and not like you other girl. I should not stop saying it is the opposite of demure mindful.
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It's just a cackling asshole. That's me. Yeah, basically this podcast. This podcast is the
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opposite of demure in my palm. Yeah. You want to listen to some shwale bitch? I love it. I love it.
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You said something about the Lacey Peterson documentary too. Yes. So as of
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when we're recording this, I have not yet watched the peacock documentary. So I'm going to say that
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first. But so basically there are two documentaries that are coming out. Netflix released it's
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Lacey Peterson documentary. I think last week it's a four part docuseries. If you're familiar with
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this story and if they had a lot of them never before seen footage and they talk to her friends, her
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family and it's a very like Lacey focused. The tragedy that happened. How and they don't even
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necessarily like take a stance on it. The police zeroed in on it. Scott too soon or whatever. They
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just say like, Oh, Scott started acting really. Yeah, he absolutely did. And if you're not familiar
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with the case, like watch the Netflix one. It's very, very good. I think I'm going to start in that one
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because I did pop up on my like for you. And that's very like a victim focus. And I think that's
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what all true crime should be. I totally agree. Let's center the victims instead of memorializing
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murderers. Yes. And unfortunately, Scott Peterson is now in the midst of a pill and is actually trying
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to get his conviction overturned or it was already overturned and they're retrying it. I can't
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remember this specific. He's been in prison since 96. It's in the house. So it's been a long time.
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And what's so sad is he like still refuses to admit that he did it. And so his family has made it
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like their wife mission to ultimately like exonerate. Yeah. And so they're kind of like stuck in this
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wheel and they're making it and all these things. So P.Cock is doing this documentary where they're
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interviewing Scott Peterson. And so Netflix release there's a head of time, which I'm really
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thankful for. I feel like that's an ADF. And so P.Cock comes out like as a record. And so next week,
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I'll give my thoughts on the P.Cock one. But it's it's just going to be really interesting. If you
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ever saw the A&E Scott Peterson documentary, they take a very like pro Scott Peterson. I've seen
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that one in years. I watched some special of something about it. It also murdered back in
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his or my cast. Yeah. Very familiar story. But that's what I've been in a true crime little hole lately.
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I'm like I'm at all. We it's so good for our mental. Yeah. Our collective depression.
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Our depression's lately. Yeah. Our depression's lately. And on that note, we'll take a quick break.
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It's a brat somewhere. Charlie XX is on repeat. Chop of a Rone is all you've been seeing on your
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Apple IP page. Billy Eilish has this new bedroom pop sound for her record. You can't stop saying
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no, there's a bugger. Like Sabrina Carpenter in that one song. There's a return to hyperpop that
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is giving so 2008. What else happened? 2008. Oh yeah. I went to college. Is that it? Yeah, that's
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all I could think of. It's kind of a blur that year. It's kind of a blur that's from our world.
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Most people know that as the great recession. Yeah, that's right. And the great housing crisis. That's true.
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And during that time, you might have heard things like poker face, teenage dreams, and I got a feeling
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on repeat. Great. So, junkies, we're here today to talk about if today's pop girlies were or are the
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indicators of an impending doom of a recession. Well, we're not economists. We are pop culture obsessed.
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And there's no doubt that during times of economic hardships as far back as the Great Depression,
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there have been noticeable trends towards more upbeat and escapist music. Throughout some of these
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times, we're going to talk about popular artists and really dive into the recessions we know best.
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But let's talk about some of the early ones. So the great depression took place from the great
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point for it. Is that why you shine this on your eyes? And it's like place from 1999 to 1939.
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Louis Armstrong was known for his influential jobs. Music. I'm going to do the old thing. I'm
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going to do the old thing. It's only to do the Great Depression. Oh, no, obviously. He's just the
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entire rest of the episode. Oh, my god. I don't know if I can do it. I'm strong. He's got
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beat to this provided a sense of joy and escape to the masses. Do Garling 10 was a key figure in
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this little wing era. His big band music was immensely popular. Billy Holiday. Well,
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her music off tonight. I'm a lot. I don't need men. Well, our music. I'm really good.
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She's so stupid. No, she's dumb. I'm not. Billy Holiday. Well, her music often had a sound tone.
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Song is like place from Evan. I've heard more up it. That's crazy.
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So much reaching to see a lot of happy music. Yeah, and after the Great Depression,
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a lot of everyone is talking like that too. Everybody is on like this. I'm great joy.
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How could he be sad? I'm going to talk and like this. My wife, but let out today. Wait, my wife can't
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get let off because she's not going to work. It's just learned her dying. Okay. We're there in the factories.
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All right. She'll learn her in the factory smoking cigarettes. Now I need to know what your name,
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your next one is. So we have the Great Depression. Now give me your next impression. I don't know
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if I can do it. How do people talk in the 70s? I just picture them really stone. I feel like
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I was 60s. I was going to talk more like the Brady Bunch. 1970s recession. She willikers. 1973 to 1975.
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The Bee Gees. Their transition to disco with hits like stay alive. Became very popular in the era.
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Donna Summers was known as the queen of disco. And her songs like Hot Stuff at Last Dance
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dominated the charts. Ava, the Swedish pop group, eight international famous songs like Dancing
27:41
Queen and Mama Mia. So during this recession, we had again some of the most popular songs of the
27:49
entire era that when you think of the 1970s, you probably think of stay alive. Yeah.
27:55
Dancing Queen. That's very up. Yeah. I like her. Yes. And very fun and exciting beats.
28:03
Now I don't know when 1980s were born. So it's beautiful as that was. I will not be over that. I
28:10
don't know. I could go. So in the... I was going to have to have these exciting 80s. Okay, do go to the
28:20
Fallon. And then we had in to the 1980s recession. So in the 1980 to 1982 recession, we had Michael
28:29
Jackson, his album Thriller, begin the best-selling album of all time, providing a mix of pop, rock,
28:37
and funk prints. But this innovative music albums like 1999 released in 1982. We became hugely
28:46
popular. And then Madonna, emerging in the early 1980s, her dance pop hits like Holiday and like
28:54
a virgin where major successes. So Madonna was birthed out of a recession. I don't know if I ever
29:01
knew her. I didn't know that. Oh, Michael Jackson, it tricks on. Well, he was making music
29:06
way before that. I mean, yeah, like especially Michael Jackson. Yeah. But this was when she became like,
29:12
I think his star hit a whole new height when he became the solo artist. I guess. Yeah. And then we had
29:20
into the 90s. And this is... I love it so much. We have been to the 90s. Yeah. Actually, we have bands like
29:31
Nirvana, which has never mind who brought Grunge into this. They're kind of an outlier. And let's see,
29:39
this isn't like quite the hyperpops happiness. This is kind of what I would want to listen to in her
29:44
session. Yeah, right. Where they acknowledged the depression. So things started to change. But then we
29:49
had Mariah Carey who did her powerful vocals and it single strings. I sound like I'm in the 70s.
29:58
Yeah. I can't keep an accent for like a total two seconds. I sound like you're high. I don't
30:04
know what you mean. I'm a perfect Christian woman. And then we also had Whitney Houston who was
30:15
known for absolute thingers in pop music. But during this time, it was, I will always love you. She was
30:22
also beginning her career. I just want to open up. I'm sorry. I hate. What's a good 2000 one voice?
30:35
The dot com bubble of virus. 2001 show things like Eminem and his album The Marshal. I can't
30:42
really say I can't do this. I was like, no, the Marshal happens to be in 2000 in the Eminem show in 2002.
30:49
Critically claimed and very commercially successful. These are all going to be albums that I remember.
30:55
Okay. Destiny's Child, the group led by Beyoncé had hits like Survivor and Blue D. Liches
31:02
and then Rees Spears with Oops. I did it again and she just went on from there to continue to dominate
31:07
the pop charts. But again, these are the hyper pop artists that are coming out in the dot com bubble
31:13
burst or those music videos that were just so bright and sheer and yeah, just look over here. Yeah.
31:20
Everything's fine. Look at the white colors. Yeah. And throughout time, you know, we're going to
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today talk about the resessions we know and grew up within. But throughout time, we we can actually
31:31
look back to a few indicators. It's music. It's art that we're obsessed with. It's fashion that we're
31:38
obsessed with. And so, you know, there's a lot of different arguments that people make. Is it music?
31:43
Is it fashion? Is it all these things? We came in from a music perspective today just because we do
31:50
kind of hear a lot of similar sounds that we heard in early, you know, 2007, 2008 speaking of Britney
31:57
Spears, like the shaving of the head moment really does mark that time or session and like where we're
32:05
at. But the gray recession, which made me feel really old writing that out. Is that is that
32:11
these? That's when they call it a great recession of the guys that in eight. Yeah, the gray
32:15
or sun I should just aged me typing it out. I am officially. Yeah. I heard just like my knees. And so,
32:22
which started from December 2000, to June 2009. Great. Right now is entering the workforce. Yes.
32:30
That's right. I was going to college. Everything was bleak. We were on the verge of an economic
32:37
apocalypse for futures. It really shook up everything we thought we'd get out of studying,
32:42
paying a lot of money to go to college for a better future. It started when the US housing bubble burst
32:48
dragging down mortgage-backed securities and causing a financial mount down that one global.
32:53
By the way, if you haven't ever seen the big shore, you should go watch this and are queen,
32:58
my rubber in it. They do actually a really good job at explaining how this happened in an
33:04
entertaining and educational way where you probably just are busy in mortgage-backed securities.
33:11
And you're like, oh god, my eyes do it. Yeah, the mice go for it. Yeah, welcome to my job where
33:17
make tax content all day. But if you've never seen that movie, do you have an amazing job at talking
33:23
about how this all happened? How we're actually allowing this to happen again? But times were really
33:29
ultimately bleak. Unemployment was so bad at one point. It was sorry to 10%. It was a really rough ride
33:36
that left the lasting mark on everything from our bank accounts to culture, to the music that we
33:43
listened to. Today. You trust. And so we're going to talk a long about what was in the zeitgeist
33:48
during the great recession. So what artists came out during the great recession every time I say
33:55
that another great year. You see them on, if you're on YouTube, another one. Another one. By the way,
34:01
go follow us on YouTube. Yeah, follow us on YouTube. We're really cute. So Taylor Swift kind of
34:05
emerged in this time 2008 with songs like Love Story and You Belong With Me. She was the top selling
34:10
musical artist in 2008. And this was all going down with four million units sold. That's insane.
34:20
And that was for a teenager. Yeah. The aunt say who we already mentioned. The Destiny's Child
34:26
had a significant presence on the charts with single ladies. If I were a boy, Rihanna came out with
34:31
dysterbia, take a bow, TI had whatever you like and live your life also with Rihanna. Such good music in 2008,
34:40
right? Low Wains, the Carter Surrey came out in 2008. This is just deep reaching like peak
34:46
music. Yeah. I think like 2008, 2010. Like it's just incredible. I guess I think back to like when I
34:54
was in college listening to all these music and going to party music. The music. The music, the music,
34:59
some might walk me down. Yeah. It's like going to all these parties and this isn't stuff that was
35:04
playing. Yeah. It's so good. It does. Hey, little ball. It does feel like we're returning to that.
35:10
A lot of artists we see today are that. No, what I also think is pretty interesting is the reality
35:16
TV that we were obsessed with around that time. So American Idol was incredibly popular at that time.
35:23
Kind of our first pair of social relationship. We had survivor, which was really, really popular.
35:29
We had the real housewives of New York City. Finally. That's very swine. I think so. Yeah. I think so.
35:35
We had real housewives of Atlanta, a spin-off come after that. And then we had wipe out come in.
35:42
Which is I do love to watch wipe well when it's on everywhere. But it's literally just like a
35:48
destruction like we said earlier, like stupid, silly little things where either we're looking at
35:54
these ostentatious people with extreme displays of wealth or people putting themselves into
36:00
ridiculous scenarios to get money. And do you think that all of this? I mean, I guess we
36:04
could kind of say this for the end, but this is just ways to distract the public from what's
36:10
really going on. Or do you think artists are consciously like people need something happy to
36:15
listen to or to watch? Yeah, but about I think it's kind of a bit about. I mean, I don't think there's
36:23
some overlord, but like what's going to sell better right now? Is it like people want to skip
36:29
is that? Yeah, a lot of the time. Which I think art is just in general. And so I think in a hard
36:35
times, people gravitate towards just like, well, let's pretend like that freaking imagined song.
36:42
Do you remember whenever COVID started and all those like, oh, it's not like it's like that,
36:48
like that's like the art that's what they had. I just imagine in their minds, I'm like, you know,
36:55
I'm gonna put out a banger. Thank you for the banger. But also they heal. They're thinking that, you
37:00
know, like it's going to be like that imagined moment. And if that was the song, they're way too
37:05
over the top. Like, this is my fight song. Make me want to do violets to my song. Like,
37:12
there is a fun. No, I hate roar. That was like other one. I hate it. So,
37:18
if you were a band down so bad that you like plastic bag, you had to turn it on and you were just like,
37:25
I'm gonna fight. Did you want to know why? It's because fight song and roar just give me
37:32
Hillary Clinton losing flashbacks on this 16. So, like, anytime I hear that, I just think about weeping
37:40
on my cram. It's so fun. I think one of it, one of the times I was probably in like the deepest of my
37:47
whole dark dark depressions. I played that song on I should start playing that song just every day.
37:52
Okay, moving on. I keep going. No, you should always me. Okay, 2009 pop song is
38:02
my queen lady Gaga was the top artist to 2009 poker face in bad romance. She had a total of
38:09
1,734 points on the charts. I have no idea what that means. They were they were points. They were
38:16
points. How many points do we have? Point. We have points. All right. We got a coin. We make a lot of
38:24
good points. Yeah. The black eyed peas had major success with hits like Boop Boop, Pow and I got a
38:29
feeling like Glee cat. No, that is a traumatizing. Oh, that's not me. I got a feeling. Again, a feeling.
38:36
Yeah, every wedding, this like when all of your friends start getting married around like
38:43
2012 or so. Yeah. That song was just so beautiful. Yeah. The Glee cast. Got it. Were you
38:51
actually? No. I worked in social services right out of college and all of my clients were obsessed
38:57
with Glee. And I had a rule that they could put on whatever music they wanted when they were in
39:02
my car. Oh, God. Does it just make them feel safe? Yeah. And so many of them wanted the album and the
39:07
chipmunks soundtrack. Okay. And the Glee soundtrack. Well, it's a dark time. It was a dark time. Yeah.
39:16
Michael Jackson following his death in June 2009. His music saw research and popularity,
39:22
placing him among the top artists of the year again. And then Taylor Swift,
39:26
college continuing her success from 2008 remained a top artist in 2009. Yeah, it's interesting to see
39:33
throughout this like literally some similar artists like Michael Jackson in Beyond the Sessions,
39:40
the Avionte, Taylor Swift. And then when I was researching this, how can I forget about
39:48
this? The COVID-19 recession. Yeah. Which we all just remember as a global pandemic, but it also had
39:55
crazy economic implications. Absolutely. As we all know. And Mike's still be doing with four years later.
40:01
But I'll take you back to the year of 2020. We're all stuck on TikTok, listening to these
40:09
addicting new songs that we saw people dancing to all while wearing masks. I think we weren't going to die.
40:14
It was all right, but we saw the same trends in music. What's our artist? We had to do a leap. We had
40:20
Dosa, the weekend, and then BTS kind of came into the popular reality. The top five songs of 2020
40:30
were "Blinding Lights" by the Weekends, "Circles" by Post-Belone, The Box by Roddy Rich. Don't start now
40:38
by our queen, Dua Liza. And then rock star by De Baby featuring Roddy Rich. I've never heard the
40:47
box by Roddy Rich in my life. Yes. I would agree, but it says it was a viral sensation. Yeah. Maybe
40:54
once we hear it. Well, no, I've got it. Maybe we're in the box. So we can hear the box, you know? I also
41:01
remember that from Madoka by Lady Gaga came out during 2020. And oh my god, that album I think had
41:08
gotten me through the pandemic. And that's still one of my favorite Gaga albums. But it was her return to
41:14
Hyperpop gay pop dance hall. Yeah. With like Rain on Me and Stupid Love after Cho Wain and I was so.
41:23
Yeah. And all I remember thinking with my friends is like, I cannot wait to go to the gay club. It
41:28
danced to Rain on Me and we're allowed to go to the club again. Oh my god. I did a Zoom class with this
41:34
like instructor from Equinox. Oh, I did a Zoom class. And a Zoom class was like to we learned
41:39
the Rain on Me dance that he had and it was so good. It was so fun. At the only time I could do it was one
41:44
it was covered and they were doing three instructional. It wasn't my being the building. So I'm too
41:52
too poor for that one so bad. Air one day, one day. Yeah. No, I love it. But yeah, it's just that
41:59
it was the distraction. And I think some of these artists knew. I mean, obviously you work
42:04
in an album when you're in August for years. Prop you don't know there's going to be an international
42:10
global pandemic. But in like God does kind of try to delay. I remember correctly putting out
42:16
chromatic gun and eventually she was like, now y'all need this. Y'all need this. That's like a black
42:22
mirror. The most recent season that came out was supposed to come out in like May 2020. And he
42:28
was just like, I'm not releasing us. The world doesn't need this right now. Oh my god. And in Black
42:33
Mirror, we did not. Yeah. That's why everyone was like, oh, this feels like kind of like three years
42:39
ago because it was three years. Was it all filled? Yeah, it was like ready to release in 2020. And so we
42:45
decided not to. But also I think like the reality TV that we were making popular in 2020 is interesting as well.
42:52
Oh my gosh. Okay. So we had the masked singer. Tiger King. Oh my god. Everyone was obsessed with
42:59
Tiger. Yeah. I was another like you co-alite coalition. Here's a coalition. It's coalition of
43:07
tigers for characters. I was going to say when you think of 2020, you think of
43:11
correlation. There it is. There you go. There's a couple of cool. And Tiger Kings.
43:17
We're so dumb. We're making an argument that is a pretty serious recession. I like to
43:26
coalition. Of course, a coalition of Tiger Kings. They're all wearing crowds. They're from the tigers.
43:32
Lily, Tiger King, Love is Blind and RuPaul's Drag Race, which I definitely benched during Co-
43:42
because it's happy and dramatic and over the top and colorful. And it may be not want to end things.
43:49
And the bachelor. Yeah. And a lot of people. Yeah. Quite into. I think it's so interesting. So we have
43:55
in 2008, American Idol and then the masked singer. Yeah. That's a good mic. But you know,
44:01
Tiger King kind of like a slice of life. He would survive. Or like it does feel like similar things.
44:08
Just kind of very like popping up where we either want to see people. You're starting. It's very
44:13
odd situation. Yeah. Different from ourselves. You're starting to make me feel like we're living in
44:17
a simulation. I'm not going to. I'm not sure I could keep it going. I'm like Olivia. We need
44:25
on this. This episode is making me wildly uncomfortable. Do we make any of our own choices or does big
44:30
entertainment make it? I mean, what are we? Like that's a really philosophical question. Like are we
44:36
every interaction we've ever had summed up? Or like, you know, that squirrel?
44:42
Just you know, I've watched too many like TikToks that relate to you. And you're like, this is so me.
44:48
And by the end of it, you're like, what am I? Have I ever got a unique? Have I ever had a unique
44:53
experience in my life? Let us try to explain simulation 32. In the same way that we've tried to
45:01
explain to you economic music trends. I can use my old timey vibes. Yeah. I sure should bring it back
45:07
for a good one. But I do think it is such an an interesting, you know, return to where we are today.
45:14
A lot of people are looking at, you know, Charlie X, the X Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Road,
45:20
and they're saying, oh, this is like the good music that we had in the 2000. And they're like,
45:26
there are some bad things that really did happen. So right now we have Taylor Swift breaking records.
45:32
Again, she's in the league around. She's going after the Beatles right now. But then we have Billy
45:38
Eilash who really did change her sound to be very upbeat. By the way, gas, remix with Billy Eilash.
45:46
Oh, Charlie, it's been in my head for days. It's so good. And the music video is them firing shots.
45:52
I Taylor Swift in the funniest way. And I need to watch. And as a Taylor Swift father, they do it so good.
45:59
Every time I listen, I didn't work. I pulled this just from like collective data, but are going to
46:05
Grande, do Alipa, and then Sabrina Carpenter, who is very known for like her silly like Espresso
46:12
has no meaning songs, but they're just so catchy. And then our current reality TV show,
46:18
Tram, they're even funnier. Exactly the same. But yeah, saying, mass singer, survivor,
46:24
RuPaul's drag race, the bachelor, and then love Island, the one that I'm obsessed with.
46:29
But do you think maybe some of these trends repeat themselves when it comes up in recession time?
46:34
I mean, not that I think we're at a recession right now, right? Well, I could be trying to say
46:39
that it could be coming. And we have had a crazy market crash in the last week or two.
46:45
That's crazy. The ninth that I wrote the next day, the market crash. And you were like, and it was one
46:51
of the worst days in market history. No, they completely halted trading. That's in Monday.
46:58
Illinois says what they call it, but the day after that's insane. I was gonna say like maybe we're always
47:04
reaching for the comfort of nostalgia during these times. And so because we get so stressed out
47:11
and the pressures of life become too much, like we've joked about a lot in this episode. Like
47:15
maybe the comfort of things that were in the past. Yeah. Is what makes us, and so we reached
47:21
for things that make us feel that same feeling that we did. Like love Island creates the same
47:27
serotonin in me that like flavor of love. Oh my god. Yes. And this gives me the same like this is
47:34
nonsense. It's so worth the topic. Makes me feel those they feel like. Yeah. Okay. Maybe that's why
47:38
I had some part of being reached for them. Okay. Yeah. Because really the next thing was like,
47:43
why do you researchers and you know, psychologists and people think that we really look to this and
47:50
find these patterns within human behavior during economic hardship. And a lot of it is
47:56
escapism. Like we've talked about, you know, people gravitate towards music that is happy, especially when
48:02
they're stressed or anxious. And then studies have shown that when unemployment rates are high,
48:09
people want happy melodies as a way to really count our benignal and stuff. So that makes sense. And
48:16
then there is this argument and this comes with all art, clothes, music, you know, everything. It's
48:22
that is just a cycle. Oh my god. Yeah. 30 years. We like have we've never invented anything new.
48:28
That is so interesting because if you remember like the fashion when we were in the 90s, it was all
48:34
callbacks to 60s and 70s fashion. Yeah. All this I know isn't bell bottoms again. You know, I mean,
48:41
I guess I was kind of like the early 2000s. Yeah. 90s. We were all wearing bell bottom jeans against
48:46
my late faces and pea sides, yin yin and I remember my mom saying them and being like, oh, this stuff
48:53
is called the 60s. Yeah. That's what I used to wear. Yeah. And then in the 70s, the peasant style,
48:58
which is what they made. The seven really. Yeah. Exactly. And now it's 2024 and we're getting that
49:05
Y2K fashion back again. It's all now. It's indy. So it is. And I literally cannot stop seeing
49:11
fuck is indy. It's the late it's 2010 hipster tumbler, which is with their flat like their
49:18
ripped tights and their flannels and their little hipster little brim. Like the um, yes,
49:25
that's like an ass. Like an ass. That's coming back right now. Oh no. I got so much of that. Yes.
49:30
I had saw my whole necklaces. Yeah. I actually do have like a very crazy like connection. I
49:38
didn't know that's a thousand. So like indy. Yeah. And well, they call it indy sleaze now. That's
49:43
how we got it when we know we were. It's. Yeah. Now it's indy. So he's like, it's very
49:49
hot that American. You know, like, I'm going to go through. Yeah. It's very American apparel. And
49:54
that's what's coming. And I felt like I started like I noticed the trend earlier in fashion,
50:00
just because fashion trends are for women are noticeable and discussed a lot. Yeah. But the music
50:06
really does come with that as well. And then ultimately like consumer behavior, like we want to
50:13
see people getting things that we can get like the Kardashians also started in, you know,
50:20
2000. Yeah. And you know, like my super sweet 16 like Jeff, we came out when we were about to turn
50:27
16 and we weren't going to have fucking birthday party. Yeah. And like, but for some reason,
50:32
we wanted to watch other kids ever. Yeah. And it's so interesting to just like look at like, you
50:38
would think we would be disgusted by that because of wealth disparity, but actually our brains
50:43
like sure, because they'd have been like, Oh, no, we want that. If I work hard enough,
50:47
yeah, just pick myself up from my bootstraps. I too could have a Mercedes for the first day. Yeah.
50:53
Yeah. Well, you can't Rachel. Exactly. And ultimately it's important to know that these are
50:59
correlations that we're drawing. It's not causing a, you know, don't go. Pop music does it cause
51:04
the reset? Yeah. But don't don't don't go attack like a chopper, or a Sabrina, Sabrina,
51:10
Carmen, or music trends are not just reliable indicators. But it can help us, you know, kind of
51:17
determine like, that's all this really interesting thing when the stock market crash that they were
51:22
saying, like, is McDonald's crashing? Like is there stock? It's just traditional like the
51:28
Milly other day stable thing. Yeah. You can look at a lot of things like one of the funniest
51:33
Alex this is that doesn't really get all I feel like I know what you're going to say about
51:37
Florida hurricane is actually serious is if the waffle house is closed. That means that there's
51:43
really a hurricane coming and like you should get out of town, but if the waffle houses are open,
51:48
you stay open. Yeah. I see correlations between like the amount of
51:53
hapsicles that are bought in a community that correlates with the amount of like serial killers
51:57
that happens like, oh, yeah. And maybe it wasn't that's it. It was something about ice cream and like
52:03
murder. Yeah. But it's like because more people buy ice cream when it's hot outside. And like,
52:08
it doesn't even murder moral because they're angry. Yeah. Honestly, yeah. And so it's not because
52:12
ice cream causes murder. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And so, you know, it's like, yeah, oh,
52:20
ice cream is turning the murder. It's turning the frogs day.
52:25
It's turning the frogs day. Do you hear them remix of that? Trying to freaking frogs. Yeah,
52:31
it actually does. Yeah. On a big gay fraud. Dude, so gay fraud. Yeah. So living my life on a
52:38
lily pad with you. Yes. One day. One day. One day. We'll react. He's being you talking shit.
52:47
No, no, no, no, I'd be in gay fraud. I took that other frog over there. I said, you see which frog
52:53
that he's loving, and the other. Yeah. You want to know, I bet your ribbit would be a most
52:59
foul. Like you would just have like this, this stinky is a little. Yeah. Because you can't fart
53:08
in that. Which you have to be real. I don't know if I'm saying that. I think you would just have like
53:17
zero farty frogs. That would be so gassy. Yeah. This is too foul. I'm so sorry.
53:24
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