Latest / Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast / Offseason Beer Bets (Part 1) !! + Early Thoughts On Next Year's Draft
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- 0:00Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
- 0:02podcast. Woo woo.
- 0:05I'm scared, I'm scared. You'll find out soon.
- 0:09Why? Welcome in a banger management
- 0:11at the Fantasy Hockey Podcast with your favorite hosts, Jake,
- 0:16Josh and Kevin. All while guys.
- 0:19Yeah, it has been. Yeah.
- 0:20How's everybody doing? Enjoying the offseason?
- 0:23Yeah, Honestly, I don't know if the offseason is a bigger deal
- 0:26for fantasy players or for actual NHL ERS.
- 0:29Yeah, yeah. When when we go through it, we
- 0:36go through it, you know, I know that.
- 0:37There's the mental reset, yeah. Exactly, exactly.
- 0:41I mean like at least from the mental point of view it isolated
- 0:44I think. I think we we get hit just as.
- 0:45Hard. Yeah.
- 0:46Yeah, it's not hard. So yeah, as always, you could
- 0:51find the link to our social media in the link tree in the
- 0:54podcast description. I it's I'm a bit rusty.
- 0:57It is. You probably already know that.
- 0:58To be honest, five stars if you like what you hear, which you
- 1:01will were available on Spotify or Apple podcast so.
- 1:05And wherever you get your podcasts.
- 1:06Wherever your podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts.
- 1:08Wherever you get your. Podcasts.
- 1:10So back to why I'm frightened. Today's a special episode.
- 1:15Special bonus content for all you junkies who are jonesing for
- 1:19some fantasy hockey in the offseason.
- 1:21I know today is our special beer BET episode.
- 1:27I thought that would be a bit more coordinated.
- 1:29That was good. Josh, Josh just went right into
- 1:32it. What is it like a million years
- 1:36for? Yourself scared about like open
- 1:38it too violently and it would spray on the mic or something I
- 1:41don't know. Oh, it's celebratory.
- 1:44Cheers. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:45Cheers. Good luck out there boys.
- 1:49OK. I don't know how much of that
- 1:53you can hear, but hopefully not too much.
- 1:55Yeah, let's try and not drink these right in our mics.
- 1:57Yeah, not that anyone did. But no, no, yeah, yeah.
- 2:00Mine myself every time we have a a drink.
- 2:02But yeah, so this is our special beer bets episode.
- 2:04If you've been following us throughout the season or even
- 2:06halfway through the season, whenever we've been making these
- 2:09quote UN quote beer bets on random disagreements we've had
- 2:12about how certain players match up against each other, that's
- 2:15usually what it is. I was going to give other
- 2:17examples, but mostly it's player versus player comparisons and
- 2:19times we disagree about that. So we would make a beer bet, and
- 2:23we've just tallied up who won all those bets at the end of the
- 2:26season. And for every bet lost, we have
- 2:29to drink a beer. Yes.
- 2:30So I don't know if I should say that.
- 2:32Should I say the final tally of how many beers we all have to
- 2:34drink? Yes.
- 2:35OK. So we're opening with that,
- 2:37right? There were 13 beer bets made,
- 2:39yes, but it was like. One was like a 11.
- 2:42So they're gonna be 14 beers drank over the course of this
- 2:46episode. So tied for first place in least
- 2:53amount of losses is me and Kevin we have.
- 2:56To train. Type or not worth.
- 3:00Yes, it's me and Kevin. We each have the drink 4 beers
- 3:03and Jakey who likes making some crazy bets so we're gonna go
- 3:06through it has to drink 6. And that is why Jackie is
- 3:09scared. I, I read the first one and I
- 3:11was like, you know what? I feel like at the time it was
- 3:13like, not that I'm not bummed that I lost or didn't win, but
- 3:20yeah, that one, that one feels like mad.
- 3:22But I can't wait to go through more of them and see like.
- 3:25How bad? Yeah, exactly.
- 3:28Though like 446 is very even. Yeah, like a definitely could
- 3:31have been more. That goes the other way and it's
- 3:33like 5-5. 4 exactly, yeah. So it's almost as even as it
- 3:37possibly could have been. So that just for our viewers out
- 3:39there or listeners, I guess we have viewers yet.
- 3:42We're working on that coming soon.
- 3:43With all your viewers, with your ears.
- 3:45Exactly. It just shows that you could
- 3:48trust all of us equally slightly less.
- 3:52All equal but the same. We're all equal, but some are
- 3:55more equal than others. Same same.
- 3:57But different exactly. Which I tell you many bad jokes.
- 4:03Alright, so we're going to go through our bets 1 by 1.
- 4:06We'll see what the bet was, we'll say what the result was,
- 4:08who won, who lost and we'll go through our thought process at
- 4:11the time and kind of what shook out.
- 4:13Yeah, we dated these. So obviously if you like have
- 4:18end of season in mind, you're going to think some of these are
- 4:20crazy. But just think about like, I
- 4:22mean, some of them might still be crazy to be honest.
- 4:25We're not, we're not, not susceptible to making stupid
- 4:28bets, but some of them made more sense at the time than they will
- 4:31like at the end of the season. All right, she died tober
- 4:35twelve, 2024. This is very early season.
- 4:38Yeah, that's like a weekend. It's probably like our second
- 4:42episode, yeah. The worst part about this is
- 4:44like, it's like who bet who? So like it's written Jake bets
- 4:49Josh. So I initiated this tickets Josh
- 4:53that Samsonov starts more games than Aiden Hill, no exceptions.
- 4:58Made. Like injuries or Yeah, correct,
- 5:00like none of. That so confident?
- 5:01I think so I think this was like a month into this season ish.
- 5:04Yeah. So like 3 or 4 weeks in you were
- 5:06so confident. Literally picked up and held on
- 5:08to him for like 3 weeks. Yeah, this is happening.
- 5:12I was pretty confident. And I was very confident that
- 5:15you would be wrong. Yeah.
- 5:17And what was the result? That was a hill.
- 5:19I should not have died on a stick with one.
- 5:22Beer Hill started 50, Sampson all started 29, and I lost.
- 5:27Cheers. Cheers everybody.
- 5:29Cheers for that, for all the viewers with your ears out
- 5:34there. Jackie just chugged his first
- 5:36beard. No, no I didn't.
- 5:37Oh, thank God. I didn't, but yeah, I, I think
- 5:41just at the time I, I had known Hill to not be such a great
- 5:47season goalie. Yeah.
- 5:48And Samsonov, even though the year before he was dust, the
- 5:51year before that and the leaves, he was good.
- 5:54So I was like, OK, you know what, this could be really
- 5:56competitive. And Vegas, you know,
- 5:58surprisingly lost in like last year, right?
- 6:03I mean, they like like in the playoffs and stuff.
- 6:05So I was like, you know, I don't think he's a lock.
- 6:07I thought he had a fair chance. And some don't know about a few
- 6:09good games at that point I believe, so that's why I chose
- 6:12to do so at the time. I feel like I really wanna was
- 6:15one of those tandems that like in a realist, like in a tangible
- 6:19world, you can see Samsung on being a starter.
- 6:20Somewhere it definitely wasn't one of those locked up like.
- 6:23They were playing it as a tandem.
- 6:24'S job to lose though yes so we were all like OK like is he
- 6:28gonna. Lose the job in uphill battle.
- 6:29Yeah. No, I mean, I get your I totally
- 6:35agree with your Eden Hill doubts.
- 6:37That part of it I fully agree with.
- 6:38What I didn't agree with, and correctly, was the Samsonov
- 6:42trust. Yeah, so I thought I agree that
- 6:44Aiden Hell is not a solid starter.
- 6:45Like, like someone could definitely come challenge that
- 6:48job. I just don't think Samsonov is
- 6:49the guy to do that. Samsonov, we saw it like I
- 6:52picked them up for a couple weeks, I think in the last like
- 6:55third of the season or something where I think he'll was.
- 6:57Hurt. And he, like Samson, has some,
- 6:59like, really good starts. So it's kind of one of those
- 7:01situations. Exactly.
- 7:02Yeah. I think the biggest thing with
- 7:04Jay looking at a lot of these bets is he has like major
- 7:07confirmation bias like. What does that mean?
- 7:10Like you pick up, you like you have an idea in your head and
- 7:14then you see like sprinkles of it and you're like, this is
- 7:19gonna happen. Like you like this is it.
- 7:22I guess that's more like a recency bias like.
- 7:24It's just like, but it's like he's so determined that it's
- 7:27gonna be like, yeah, he sees it happening and then he's gonna be
- 7:29like, alright, I can't see this any other way, you know what I
- 7:31mean? Did you?
- 7:32What does? That ever watch the little
- 7:33engine that could? Definitely easy to get caught up
- 7:37in your guys. Here we all.
- 7:39Season, You know, I was convinced Ross Colton was gonna
- 7:41be like the Morchard winner. Yeah, yeah, if he didn't get
- 7:43injured. We'll never know.
- 7:46Yeah, we'll never know. Yeah.
- 7:47But yeah, that's that's bet number one.
- 7:50Yeah, a big elf for Jake and a big W for Josh.
- 7:53Let's move on to two where I I was not involved.
- 7:56October 23rd, 2024 Josh Betts Kevin meeting.
- 8:00Josh initiated the bet that stole our starts more than
- 8:03Dustin Wolf. No exceptions.
- 8:06Wolf had 53 stars Stole. Ours had 33.
- 8:10Josh loses. My first W 1 wall.
- 8:13Yeah, I mean the no exceptions part definitely bit me here
- 8:17because Stolarz was injured for like a third of the season.
- 8:20That definitely hurts. Also at the time Wolf and Vladar
- 8:25were like fully splitting. Stewards.
- 8:27And wolf like, I mean, I, I'm not, I wasn't at the time a wolf
- 8:32believer. I wasn't a Calgary believer
- 8:33more. I knew.
- 8:34You never know. And I still, I still stand by it
- 8:37didn't make the playoffs like I said they wouldn't, but they
- 8:39still did better than I expected them to.
- 8:40And Wolf did way better than I expected him to the whole
- 8:43season. I mean, they barely missed the
- 8:44playoffs. Like they really made a push at
- 8:45the end. And it was all because of Wolf.
- 8:47You know, I it's very rare that a rookie goalie comes in and has
- 8:51a season like Wolf did. So I didn't know I did.
- 8:54I thought it was a pretty safe bet to say that at the very
- 8:56least they would ease him into the job.
- 8:58But he played so incredibly well that he forced their hands.
- 9:00So I think that was also, I think it's always doesn't get
- 9:03injured. I think this is much closer.
- 9:05Is definitely much closer, I just don't think that.
- 9:08The thing is, Dollars was in a tandem the whole time, whereas
- 9:11Wolf was not in a tandem for like half the season.
- 9:13Yeah, but at the time of this, Stolarz was playing for
- 9:16Insanely. Well, you were you were betting
- 9:18on stores being so good that even when Wall comes back, he
- 9:20gets the majority of the star. Exactly.
- 9:22Yeah. Another thing to note, his wall
- 9:23was injured at that time. So installers are playing so
- 9:26incredible that pretty much the the flip side happened, right?
- 9:29It was Wolf was in the tandem and Stolarz was alone and then
- 9:32it ended up kind of reversed because of Wolves amazing play
- 9:34and stars. Getting I couldn't see having
- 9:37ended up like stars without being heard, like 5348 type of
- 9:40thing, you know, I mean, yeah, like, I think that's that would
- 9:42be fair. But yeah, hot take next year I
- 9:49take Dustin Wolf over you, Cyros.
- 9:53That is a decently hot take. That's, that's surprising.
- 9:56I mean, I, I get it like obviously the way that it turned
- 9:59out this year, but I just. Still feel similar situation
- 10:03where it's like the team in front of them isn't as good as
- 10:05the goalie behind them, but the goalie is still good and can win
- 10:10games on his own. Yeah, like this is like a
- 10:12bonafide starter on their respective.
- 10:14Team. Projection Wolf is going to have
- 10:16a higher GDP than Saros. No, there's no way.
- 10:19Like like like picked earlier. Now I think Cyrus has a name.
- 10:24He'll be. High after how?
- 10:25After Predators finished like third last in the league and
- 10:28Wolf just had a call their nominee like season.
- 10:30On a year to year basis it takes a lot for ADP to like really
- 10:33fluctuate. Like I agree with you, he should
- 10:34I agree ADP should be there. Just don't take AP will be
- 10:36there. OK, because I honestly like I.
- 10:39Just drop it first or not is a different question, but where
- 10:41ADP is I don't know. Because when you said that,
- 10:44like, I don't find it to be that hard of a take.
- 10:45I think like, I think people like I'm, I like a guy like
- 10:49Saros after a year, like this year, because like he's going to
- 10:51drop, you know, and so if he goes super late, I would still
- 10:54grab him. But like, how could you possibly
- 10:56have confidence in the guy after this season, you know?
- 10:58Next year. We'll for sure.
- 11:00Who would rather or ADP? Higher who drafting first well.
- 11:03You're not touching them. Go like Wolf 4 drops.
- 11:06Gustafson. GusGus Yeah.
- 11:08Really. Yeah.
- 11:08Especially with Flurry retiring, yeah.
- 11:10Yeah. I love Minnesota.
- 11:12Yeah, they're very good team. Comes back healthy hopefully for
- 11:15the season. Eric, snack healthy.
- 11:18Of or is it? Another another big thing with
- 11:21Minnesota. I'm pretty sure this is the year
- 11:22they lose all that did. They lose that job, which is
- 11:24huge. They're.
- 11:25Imagine Mariner going to Minnesota.
- 11:26That'd be fun. That would be in there, but.
- 11:28Have a bunch of cap space. It's obviously very early to
- 11:31tell it though. Yeah, with us.
- 11:32But like, in theory, as it stands, I think Wolf is gonna be
- 11:35like a middle tier. Like a top 10 goalie.
- 11:39But like, yeah, he could exceed his ADP.
- 11:41Could he saying in a similar situation like Sorokin this year
- 11:44where like he's a very good goalie on another great.
- 11:46Teams broken was like drafted like 7th goalie off the board
- 11:49yeah. 8th but Sorokin has the name value.
- 11:52Yeah but I'm saying I see Wolf being like a similar situation.
- 11:54Great goalie, mid team. For him to be that.
- 11:58Yeah, exactly that high up the reputation that one really good
- 12:02year but like. I would be surprised if Wolf has
- 12:04a down year like. Yeah, super young, yeah, it's
- 12:07gonna have a great career, but who knows You're.
- 12:09Trimmer, Wolf. I'd rather wolf.
- 12:13I'd probably take Markstrom. I think the wins New Jersey
- 12:15supposed to be like a good team. We're like.
- 12:17It's easy to be biased by how bad they finish the season, but
- 12:19remember that he was injured for the entire end of the season.
- 12:21Yeah, OK, fine. They.
- 12:22Had Hamilton. Injured for most the end of time
- 12:24to think about it. But I do think marks from ADP is
- 12:26higher for sure. Yeah, that's what I think.
- 12:28So what will be like a like a top 15 to 20 goalie probably.
- 12:34Yeah, Lewis and I think he could easily.
- 12:38Exceed one of those better value guys.
- 12:39Yeah, he could definitely exceed it.
- 12:41OK #3 yes, October 28th, Kevin, that's Jake, that Josh will jump
- 12:49after 5 episodes, 2 1/2 weeks. Jake said that it will be within
- 12:532 1/2 weeks. Wow, OK, that's a lot.
- 12:59So stick with one beard. Josh did not drop Velardi, as
- 13:02you probably know, because we never stopped.
- 13:04Talking about him, that's a lot of nickels.
- 13:07That's a lot of nickels. And then Velard.
- 13:11Actually the others are just straight up like.
- 13:16Better or whatever, Just like, what is Josh possibly gonna do?
- 13:19Because, well, I was having such a rough start of the season.
- 13:21You just have to be there. Josh was complaining about
- 13:23Maloney every episode, about how he's getting straight zeroes.
- 13:26He was not being on the scoresheet, not being on line 1.
- 13:31Thank God I didn't drop him though, he went absolutely
- 13:33insane rest of season. No I did trade him.
- 13:35It was a great. Trade every year believes about
- 13:38the trade them. Yeah.
- 13:41Who's informed last? Who do you trade him for last?
- 13:43Year I picked him up after he. Got over treated him right.
- 13:45No, but this year I traded what I do.
- 13:48I did Vilardi and Brat for Boldy and Holloway.
- 13:52That would be good. Really good, yeah.
- 13:54Fair on both sides. Went to Holly was insane.
- 13:56Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:58So I did not drop Ballard in the end, even though at the time it
- 14:01made like I was complaining. Nonsense.
- 14:03All his words that he would, yeah.
- 14:05I'm pretty sure when you guys made that bet, I was like, if he
- 14:07has one more bad week, he's gone.
- 14:09Yeah, but that was the week that he started turning it on, so I
- 14:11was. Like actually like knowing you.
- 14:13I don't know why I did this, I'm a little confused right now.
- 14:18Don't you forget how much I was complaining.
- 14:20About I guess, I guess like when you're really in the thick of
- 14:22it, like goes back to the off season being more important for
- 14:26fantasy players. It was really it was something.
- 14:30But anyway, I I mean I feel like.
- 14:34Looking back, where you dropping people already?
- 14:36I feel like it wouldn't be bad. On my team again, but like, I
- 14:38got him. I got him in such a good spot
- 14:39this year. I got him like around 16, you
- 14:41know, which is like insane. Would you take him?
- 14:43I'll take my. Thing.
- 14:45I would take him probably around 12 or 13.
- 14:49I mean like this year you. Got free pics that you?
- 14:52Like around 11 or 12 and I view I think.
- 14:55I think it's over. Booth yeah, like it's the same
- 14:57vibe of player. Like I was gonna get points and
- 14:59put up zeros otherwise, so. But I think Hillary is better
- 15:01than. Which was actually really good.
- 15:02This season, though? I don't know.
- 15:05Yeah, exactly. They were like the best team
- 15:07after before nation, so so yeah, no, I mean I would happily take
- 15:09him again. I got him exactly where I wanted
- 15:11him last year, anywhere, and I worked out all really well.
- 15:13So he's a little higher this year, yeah.
- 15:15I would like a late round, I think like 12 in the points
- 15:18league and I'm probably gonna keep him.
- 15:19Like I feel like he could be really.
- 15:21Good. I have a really good.
- 15:22Question points I love. Him Who are you taking first
- 15:25next year, Velardi or Zuccarello?
- 15:28Velardi Really. I'm going back to my roots this.
- 15:32Is going to. Resolve This is the first year
- 15:34that I didn't win, and it's because I broke some of my.
- 15:37Cardinal rules. No, some of my cardinal rules 1
- 15:40is don't go for guys over a certain age and I got screwed
- 15:43with the with Zuccarello and with the OC.
- 15:45So I'm. Not Erickson Echols, is he?
- 15:49That was not an age thing. That was just bad luck with
- 15:51injuries. But like, yeah, I got screwed by
- 15:54going for older guys. I got screwed going for Habs
- 15:56guys. I always say don't.
- 15:58I don't take cabs and then end up reaching us.
- 15:59Laugh. Yeah.
- 16:00And he was. Awful.
- 16:03So so yeah, so I'm. Gonna use you also break.
- 16:06He was really good, you know. But there's a full season before
- 16:08the All Star. Break definitely take Velardi
- 16:10think. Really.
- 16:11Yeah. He had a great season.
- 16:12He's way younger. I mean like he's entering
- 16:14theoretically the prime of his career.
- 16:15Didn't be 26. Sequel is almost 40.
- 16:18What? Is north of 35.
- 16:21There's no way north of 35. I feel like he's like 32 or 33.
- 16:2937. 37 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:32So they got that point, I feel. Like I could resolve some help.
- 16:34Yeah. That's why they're getting
- 16:36Marner. Yeah, it's gonna take
- 16:37zuccarello. Spot.
- 16:38That's a great landing spot. Quiet market too.
- 16:42I feel like Minnesota is not like too.
- 16:44They're crazy about hockey. I know, but like they don't get
- 16:46outside noise. Hubs, or if you're outside of
- 16:50Minnesota, you don't hear about Minnesota too much.
- 16:52Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
- 16:55Let's move on to the next one, November 4th.
- 16:58Kevin bets Jake that Bobrovsky will have more wins rest of
- 17:01season than Sarah Jakes. Saros gets more wins from
- 17:04November. Fourth season, win a single
- 17:06game. I didn't count the total wins
- 17:11after November 4th, I'm just assuming that Bob had more.
- 17:14Because they don't know that you don't know that.
- 17:19Go back and tell them. Yeah, one of them is drafting
- 17:22like a fifth overall and the other ones in the finals.
- 17:26Yeah, all listen, like, like I still had a lot of conviction
- 17:29about Nashville here, like I don't.
- 17:31Feel bad about this point where everybody was like are they
- 17:33turning it around or not and you have to make your bet.
- 17:35Yeah, that's it. And I did.
- 17:36Yeah, you're already invested in like you had.
- 17:41Yeah, yeah. No, honestly.
- 17:43It was the biggest disappointment is your.
- 17:45Time I still believe they would turn it around and honestly at
- 17:48the end of this like postseason, like looking back on it, they're
- 17:51season makes no sense to me. No, like I mean it it is it is
- 17:54kind of the argument made with Ranson when you went to the
- 17:56canes of like you bring in a bunch of these big names who
- 17:58have never played with each other and like the whole team
- 18:00dynamic shift. Not necessarily a bad way, in a
- 18:02way, they're just no chemistry, you know?
- 18:04You're huge on free agents, so that's the thing.
- 18:06Yeah. So like a lot of times, clearly
- 18:08we see that doesn't work out. You know it's not just.
- 18:10And plus, they're all learning a new system.
- 18:12On top of it exactly, you don't see them having a big bounce
- 18:14back here because they'll have a full year under their belts to.
- 18:17But I'm also like, I don't know what with how bad they did, I
- 18:20feel like there was a lot of like bad vibes around the team.
- 18:23Yeah, like mentality wise, you know, I feel like there were
- 18:25comments being made from different players being like,
- 18:27oh, like some of the guys aren't showing up, you know, people
- 18:29throwing each other under the bus.
- 18:30So we'll see how they bounce back from that next year.
- 18:32But that's like that's never a good sign, you know?
- 18:34And like, players are making like, kind of offhand comments,
- 18:36like about saying, oh, like, there's no control in the room.
- 18:39Like some players aren't showing up, people.
- 18:40Are there anything you're exact news and being like this wasn't
- 18:44heard from a reporter whatever. Exactly, so it's like a lot of
- 18:47bad vibes around the team, which is fair cause they did so
- 18:49poorly. Yeah, but we'll see how you
- 18:51bounce back from that. Is it like you just put in the
- 18:52past or? I don't think they make the
- 18:53playoffs next. Year, yeah, but are they A-Team
- 18:56worth having fantasy assets on? You know, like this year.
- 18:59Other than seeing what Calgary was this year.
- 19:03Like just making it just. Always French playoffs, Bob
- 19:05never kind of making. I think that's resealing.
- 19:08Guess we'll see what they do with.
- 19:09The talent to be way better than.
- 19:11That first share, but it's also interesting, like could have
- 19:15getting rid of a lot of their young guys.
- 19:16For some reason, he seems to be wanting to go all in now, but
- 19:19like it's not working. So I'm curious to see what he
- 19:21does. But he has a bunch of old
- 19:23players on long contracts, so I don't think the future is very
- 19:26bright for Nashville. I just feel people want out.
- 19:29Like I feel like we're already seeing Marshalls, like, oh, like
- 19:31get that I have or whatever. You feel like you would screw up
- 19:35the chemistry we have at the house.
- 19:37Like, how many times do we need to get a star?
- 19:40Quebec, the tail end of his career.
- 19:43Yeah, if you really wanted to play for the Habs, come here.
- 19:45Like five years. You wanna bag to go to
- 19:47Nashville? You're complaining about it.
- 19:49Exactly. No, it's.
- 19:50So who do they get? They got Stamkos, right?
- 19:52That was a huge. One so shame.
- 19:53Marsha so yeah, Shay the The thing is that I was super Donald
- 19:58random because he was going through the team mid-season.
- 20:02Now my like theory with this is when you have players going mid
- 20:05season it's a very usual outcome.
- 20:08They're going to be worse than they were on their previous
- 20:09team. It's.
- 20:11Happening. It's like the same vibe, like
- 20:13even though they had a offseason to like figure it out, the fact
- 20:16that it was so many pieces as opposed to just one, it kind of
- 20:19like the same idea, right? So, so the only hope I have for
- 20:21them this year is that they finally figured it out.
- 20:24But I don't think they have like, I don't think they're
- 20:26gonna figure it out like this team, like, like looking at it.
- 20:29Now honestly blow it up, but that's if I.
- 20:33Look at the. Contracts.
- 20:34Everybody has such a long contract and everybody's.
- 20:35Old and they all had their worst like year ever.
- 20:37So like, no one's buying that stuff unless.
- 20:39You're salary, all these top guys for like picks and like top
- 20:43tier prospects. Like imagine if you sold
- 20:46Stamkos. Two choices.
- 20:49They're really, really try and like tear it all down and then,
- 20:51you know, hope you could contend again in like 7 years or you
- 20:55kind of suffer through, you know, make a couple of first
- 20:57round appearances. I mean what?
- 20:58Happened then you don't even know they're not good enough to
- 21:01make a run at the Cup. I don't think they don't like, I
- 21:05just don't see them doing that. It's going to happen.
- 21:07It's all these guys are going to age out of their contracts and
- 21:10then that's it. But it's still possible they
- 21:13turn it around though they still have the skill.
- 21:15Like they all had an off year. Division.
- 21:19There's there's this can still turn it around?
- 21:21I don't. Know if they will.
- 21:22Winnipegs A juggernaut? Yeah.
- 21:24Dallas is a juggernaut. Colorado is a juggernaut.
- 21:26Minnesota juggernaut. That's four teams right there.
- 21:28That's fair. I don't see them.
- 21:29Being on any of the up and coming.
- 21:32Yeah, honestly, Nationals just in a.
- 21:34Terrible voice, Utah. Like these are all teams.
- 21:35Like Utah is gonna be nice next year, I think.
- 21:38Yeah, they have a lot of things that's finally like blooming.
- 21:40No longer the Utah. Yeah, Now that you Tom Ahmed.
- 21:45Yeah. I don't know the Utah, I'm
- 21:48honestly not that high on them. But where would you take
- 21:50Forsberg next year? Cause obviously he's the best
- 21:51asset in Nashville, right? We all agree.
- 21:53With the Rome third Rome. Would like you still you still
- 21:55have a second round. Guy like late too.
- 21:58No, I think third, I got murdered the 211 last.
- 22:00Year. Like Marner went to 211.
- 22:03Yeah, right before the. Report went second round this
- 22:09past year, Yeah. And we're talking our league,
- 22:11obviously. Yeah, this is.
- 22:13I don't see how he can possibly stay there after the year he
- 22:15had. You know, I don't think he's
- 22:17gonna drop a crazy amount, but I think third, fourth round.
- 22:19Was their best fantasy. Asset yeah for you 2 years in a
- 22:23row like more than two years like yeah no, he's a he's gonna
- 22:26he's gonna have a bounce back here I think but I think he goes
- 22:28he definitely drops where. He was such a bad stretch though
- 22:31and he got 76 points and 82. Games he had such a bachelor, he
- 22:34also had an insane like I. Just I just feel like 682 is
- 22:40pretty decent, yeah, Especially with the.
- 22:41Backdrop. Really unreal.
- 22:43Like you're not even mad if you pick him in the second like I
- 22:45was. Yeah.
- 22:46But when it's all said and done, the final result, it was fine.
- 22:50It was. It wasn't.
- 22:51Great week basis. You're not getting like you're
- 22:55getting overkill one week and then you're losing your next
- 22:57week just. Because even if you're not upset
- 23:00taking in the second, you have to think about who else is
- 23:01available in the second, guys who are going to be more
- 23:04consistent and you don't have to worry about as much then you
- 23:07know. But no, he's still going to be
- 23:08taking a very highly. Would you?
- 23:10Suzuki, Suzuki or Forsberg? Probably take Forsberg versus
- 23:15yeah. What do you guys think?
- 23:16Yoshi goes next year because he had an awful.
- 23:18Who are you taking? Forsberg, OR.
- 23:21He's just, he's just old. Though he's.
- 23:23Up in there and. I think Forsberg partner and I
- 23:28just I think the points are more reliable like that's where I
- 23:30think. There's a whole, there's a lot
- 23:31of, I think garbage going on in New York, though.
- 23:34There was that whole like, like a thing you got introduced
- 23:36about, like, you know. Like that, OK.
- 23:38Like this is like provided we have clarity on that and like
- 23:40he's starting the year and there's no budget, Yeah, like
- 23:43that's 20 points difference. So I think that Panera could get
- 23:45over Forsberg. But the shots, I guess Panera
- 23:47shoots. Yeah, yeah, Like that.
- 23:51Listen like it's not crazy, but new.
- 23:53York bounces back, so I can see what you're saying.
- 23:55For me, it's a lot just like the mental thing, but like there's
- 23:57also new coach coming in, which I think is really so great for
- 23:59them. So I could see that.
- 24:00I'll take bark off over, yes. What about you and Barbara
- 24:04Point? I take Forsberg over point.
- 24:07Sam, Richard. I think I take Reinhart.
- 24:10Ohhhhh that's interesting. I know I've been I just like I
- 24:13take 4 last year, this year I had Reinhart on my do not drugs.
- 24:16I thought like last year, the year before was a fluke, but now
- 24:19he did it like 2 years in a row. So like, yeah, he just, he just
- 24:21is that. Good.
- 24:22Isaac Reinhart over him. I would take Tage over Forsberg,
- 24:25but I would probably was the other guy who said Panera.
- 24:29No point. Yeah, I take over point.
- 24:32Yeah, cool. Do we move on to the next one?
- 24:36Jack Eichel. Eichel for sure, Michael.
- 24:38Yeah, yeah. End of the fourth round.
- 24:41Yeah, that's crazy. And you guys all roasted me for
- 24:43that pic. I.
- 24:44Don't think I roasted. You guys roasted me.
- 24:47I did not roast. That was in the unreleased like
- 24:493 hour long draft episode we did and it's in there somewhere if
- 24:52anyone cares to find them. Nicole went 2 picks ahead of
- 24:55Timo Meyer who I drafted. Let's go.
- 24:58OK, finally I did something great.
- 25:00Let's go to the next November 20th.
- 25:02Jake Betz Josh that Will Cooley ends with over .6 points per
- 25:06game and Jake takes over what? You took the over, I took the.
- 25:11Took the over, Josh takes under coolly.
- 25:13Ended with .55. That's not bad.
- 25:18It's not it's not like one of those like brutal ones you were.
- 25:21So this is like the wheel. Cooley is God era of Jackie
- 25:25season. Like we gotta finish our first
- 25:27beer on this but. OK.
- 25:32Will Cooley was the man. I mean he still is the.
- 25:34Man, he was one of the best pickup of the season.
- 25:36Yeah, he was great. It's funny because.
- 25:38Physically. League Kevin mentioned like.
- 25:42Keep an eye out for his Will Cooley guy.
- 25:43I think 2 days. Later, Jake, he's like, OK.
- 25:46He was the next day, yeah. As a loyal banker management
- 25:49listener, if one of the clothes say something, you know.
- 25:52If you were listening to your management, you were ahead of
- 25:55the curve on Will Cooley and you probably.
- 25:57Were streets ahead? Yeah, yeah.
- 25:59And if you wouldn't listen, your streets.
- 26:00Behind a lot of dividends up until this very moment.
- 26:04Boston, it was great up until right now, yeah.
- 26:10So, so I, I feel like this was like a very reasonable one.
- 26:15It was close and .55 is really not that far off.
- 26:20Like at that point it's, you know?
- 26:22Yeah, no, it was super, super. Close.
- 26:25Kevin. Took #2.
- 26:29Yeah, no, this is obviously a super close bed, like .05
- 26:31points. Yeah, you were just.
- 26:33So that's that's like on an 82 game pace, if you like, you
- 26:37know, if he plays everything, that's four points difference.
- 26:39Yeah, that's super close, you know.
- 26:41Crazy, crazy. Cool, cool game.
- 26:42Yeah. Exactly.
- 26:45In 2026. You'll see.
- 26:47It's great. Yeah.
- 26:48I like that point in the season. Like, yeah.
- 26:51He's super young. 24 So he was like, you know, he's getting
- 26:56tempting. Trade an entire Dropbox for him
- 26:59yeah, but he seemed like at the time it was felt like a clear
- 27:02like, oh, this is like a waiver wire pickup who's having a hot
- 27:04streak and you're gonna end up dropping in like a week or two.
- 27:06You know like I didn't realize that he would end up being this
- 27:09solid over the course of the whole season.
- 27:10I still thought over .6 was a reach.
- 27:13That's why I made the bet. But.
- 27:14And even with the crazy season he had, he he didn't pass that.
- 27:17But but no, it was a it was a solid, a solid, but it's so like
- 27:20funny seeing like us all betting on our guys.
- 27:23Like I know as we go later on a couple that I bet on that like
- 27:26we're my guys that I picked up and you're like, you just get so
- 27:28on the hype train and it's by and also, you know, like you're
- 27:31telling everyone about him. You wanna make everyone feel bad
- 27:33that they grab you. Did you know, like look at this
- 27:37guy you drafted second overall and I'm my guy.
- 27:39I just picked up has more points than him this year.
- 27:41Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah, so, so no, I think, I
- 27:45think Willie definitely getting drafted next year, probably by
- 27:47Jakey. Yeah.
- 27:49And. I'm like is.
- 27:52The 16th Wait, I have a crazy question.
- 27:54I guess I. Have.
- 27:55Yeah, I mean, that's all the same.
- 27:56Like once. At that point it's all
- 27:58dartboard. Depends on what my team looks.
- 27:59Like, yeah, who are you taking next year, Philip Forsberg or
- 28:02Krill Marchenko? It's actually tough.
- 28:05I love killed the. Thrill so so in order to have
- 28:08that conversation, it feels like we're now thinking of four is
- 28:10working in the fourth round right Like for sure there's no
- 28:13way like it's not going in the second like we just talked about
- 28:16before sorry yeah like. His ceiling is third.
- 28:21Honestly, I could see them going same round.
- 28:22I could see them both going in the third or both going like
- 28:26third early 4th. So tough because like, you know,
- 28:29like I usually try to avoid guys who just had a career year
- 28:32because I feel like, you know, they usually they usually wants
- 28:35like go back to earth a bit, but like, I don't know, this guy was
- 28:38a mini Pasternak for. Like he was better for most of
- 28:41the season. The The thing is like he's 24
- 28:44and he and he's this is his second year that he just played,
- 28:48you know what I mean? So it's kind of like, I know
- 28:50what you mean. Like you want to regress if
- 28:51they're like 30 and like Tom Wilson, great pick by you this
- 28:55year, Kevin can easily regress. Yeah, that's like a sample size
- 28:58of like 8 or 9 years, two years in the NHL.
- 29:01So to me, I feel. Like.
- 29:04Maybe I would take a, I would take Marchenko.
- 29:06Marchenko is definitely the higher upside pick, Yeah, I
- 29:08think. But like Forsberg are gonna get
- 29:10the shots and hits no matter what.
- 29:11Marchenko has six shots but doesn't hit.
- 29:13I just feel it. This whole Columbus team was so
- 29:16like guns blazing this year that I feel like they just, it can't
- 29:19be like that next year. Again so they also finished off
- 29:22the season super hot. Like remember they were like on
- 29:24the habs tail like 7 straight or.
- 29:26Something lost like whatever it was like 10 in a row or
- 29:29something to. So many districts.
- 29:32Then they went on a really bad streak and they went on another
- 29:34crazy hot streak. End the season.
- 29:35Like it's over the house on making the playoffs.
- 29:37But like, I mean, that's just a young team, right?
- 29:40Like, yeah, that's. Just what happens going into
- 29:42like a year after that, teams have time to like watch the tape
- 29:45and like know how to shut down these guys or whatever.
- 29:47It's different Hartford team to score like so many goals every
- 29:51game and have such a high like average and then.
- 29:53Like come back again with Marchenko.
- 29:55I can ask a similar question on like where do you think Merensky
- 29:58goes next year? I think we.
- 30:00Need to goats are very much tied together next year.
- 30:03Like he has another year successful even when the team
- 30:05was not good. I think it's.
- 30:06The third defence went off the. Board was never this good, but
- 30:09he was still like. 3rd 3rd. Maybe 4th?
- 30:13What are your three before? So this and.
- 30:18Dalian. I'm sorry, I don't.
- 30:22No, I don't even think so. I think it would probably take
- 30:24Werenski over that like even though.
- 30:25Like this year. Yeah, yeah.
- 30:27Like it's like, do you think? They do it again.
- 30:29I agree with what you're saying by the way, Kevin, but this
- 30:31first of all, they didn't have boon for like most of the year.
- 30:33He's important to their. Success.
- 30:34Year older now. Yeah, He's not.
- 30:36He's their success. No, he's just like a good
- 30:39defensive player to have. A decent amount.
- 30:42True. I like this, this tall power
- 30:44play right. You got you got Boone.
- 30:47But I easily see that Fantilli is going to be on partly 1
- 30:51Monahan, Ken Johnson, Marchenko, Oransky, like just there like
- 30:55Marchenko, Kenton, Johnson and Werenski and Fantilli.
- 30:58That's four like studs. And they're young.
- 31:00Yeah, You know what I mean. They have great names on power
- 31:04plays and that don't. They just like.
- 31:07Look at Colorado this year. Yeah.
- 31:08I mean, the real question is, do you think they repeat what they
- 31:10did this past year? You know, was I?
- 31:11Think due for some regression. I just I just like negative.
- 31:14Regression, yeah, like I, I, I think it can be similar.
- 31:17I'm not saying. They'll be better.
- 31:18It was so insane that you look at every game is like there's
- 31:22only 6-7 goals. You're like what the?
- 31:23Hell, I'm just saying cause they're how many?
- 31:25How many games that were once you have like 5 points and you
- 31:27know what I mean? Like it's not.
- 31:29It's just, yeah, I mean, they're not an old team.
- 31:31Like, that's why I think, like, you know, the Johnsons of the
- 31:33world could be like, serious. Players this year for March
- 31:37drink What are you? I think I go forsberg.
- 31:40Yeah, has a pick, Yeah. What about in a points league
- 31:42though? I'm points like I go marching.
- 31:46Those points, yeah. I think more triangle gets more
- 31:48points, like if you give me Forsberg gets 70, I think
- 31:51Marchenko gets like 80, but I think I'll take like the extra
- 31:56whatever amount of hits it. Is 250 or.
- 31:58Something. Shots are pretty similar.
- 32:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.
- 32:04They both are great. Like shooters.
- 32:06Yeah. I honestly don't know about that
- 32:07one. I really.
- 32:09And like, like you said, Josh, like I feel like I have the same
- 32:11sentiments like Reinhart, you know, you just don't know if
- 32:13this is like the one year wonder type of thing.
- 32:15I'm not willing to take the. I guess there is.
- 32:17Gambling like other guys in the third round.
- 32:19I'd rather pick ahead instead of Forsberg and Marchenko, yeah.
- 32:23Yeah, but I guess another way to see it is also like Predators
- 32:26just had there were season like ever, Sportsbyte said.
- 32:30I had a really solid year overall.
- 32:32Obviously had bad stretches, but overall he like pulled it
- 32:34together. So that's his like floor, Yeah.
- 32:36You know, whereas Marchenko's is probably his ceiling.
- 32:39Yeah. So yeah, I, I don't know, that's
- 32:41a tough one. We'll have to see how I feel
- 32:43next year. I wanna move to my next one
- 32:46which is awesome. November 20th.
- 32:49Is this your first? Cooley ends the season with more
- 32:52points than Sherwood on total this season.
- 32:55So this was there was a lot of best from this day on the 20th.
- 32:59Kind of like gave you grief, Kevin.
- 33:00I was like, you never do any beer best.
- 33:03You're like, yeah, let me show you.
- 33:05So there's been 10. There's been less than A10 game
- 33:09difference between their games played at the end of the season.
- 33:12So this basically means. So yeah, I just said that.
- 33:16Want to injury insurance? Yeah.
- 33:18Exactly. Yeah.
- 33:19So I just basically wanted to say, yeah, the the broad idea
- 33:22here. Cooley gets more points than
- 33:24Sherwood. Yeah.
- 33:25Cooley 45, Sherwood 40. Cheers.
- 33:31I need to see how many games they played now that I didn't
- 33:33even check to be. Honest.
- 33:34And neither of them got injured, I don't think I think surely
- 33:37should have been out for like a week or two Ohm it's.
- 33:40Stop. We're not making this null.
- 33:42Let's see, let's see. Sherwood Blade 78 games.
- 33:46That's that's enough. Yeah, Hey, they could we play
- 33:52all the games? OK.
- 33:52But I'm definitely taking sure what over cooling next year.
- 33:55Yeah, I think so too. 10 hits the game.
- 33:57That was just easy and the bangers that went to the
- 34:00category. Literally.
- 34:00And the fact he was also, I mean I played him in the semifinals
- 34:03and he put up in like 3 games. No, he had four games.
- 34:07He. He put up I think, I think like
- 34:092 hat tricks and like 40 hits. I do agree by the way, like I
- 34:14would take him over him, but that.
- 34:17You can't share how. Many hits 3 Cooley, HUD.
- 34:22Cooley was Cooley was like, I'm doing a nice.
- 34:24Would you like? No.
- 34:24How many? How many?
- 34:25Players want to contextualize, like, sure, we've got 4.
- 34:28Figure would beat the record for since they started calculating
- 34:30it. Was a 500.
- 34:32Cooley had. 301 but it was like. 30131 and 82 games.
- 34:36That's unreal. So sure what must have like like
- 34:38500 not 400? I don't know how many. 460.
- 34:43What the hell? 460 is like right there.
- 34:48Yeah, that's bonkers. Yeah, no, like.
- 34:52He said he missed four games. You have gone 40 hits like he
- 34:55could have. That's what he was going for.
- 34:57Yes, yeah. Where do you think Sherwood
- 34:59goes? Where do these like pure bangers
- 35:01guys with like who just had an insane season like this?
- 35:04Obviously this is not gonna be like every bangers league out
- 35:06there, but our league is like very deep category heavy.
- 35:08Like we played 15 categories. Yeah, you could win you that
- 35:11category every week, which you did.
- 35:12Like he. Wanted about the goodness and
- 35:14where. Did you draft him?
- 35:16Drafted Gudas in round eleven. Yeah, that's, I could see she
- 35:20was going in like around 8:00 or 9:00.
- 35:22Yeah. Michaels feels high.
- 35:25And he can get more. Points he just had the most
- 35:26insane year though, like that's, you know, I think it is.
- 35:28I think that is high to pick him.
- 35:30Yeah. But if you think he can repeat,
- 35:31then that's a solid place. Would you take him over Tom
- 35:33Wilson? No.
- 35:34I took both of the eighth. Yeah, goes ahead of the 8th next
- 35:37year. But that's it.
- 35:38I'm also not targeting Wilson next year because he's gonna go
- 35:40too high in my opinion as well. That's it.
- 35:43I'm always like. Yeah.
- 35:45Like as well. As a part as opposed to guys who
- 35:47had good years. Look, listen, obviously like it
- 35:50would be amazing if you could replicate it, in which case I
- 35:52think the 8th is like an under like he should go with.
- 35:54This yeah, that's worth taking the risk on at their cost and I
- 35:58think an 8th to 12th round pick like for the guy that might
- 36:01average 10 hits the game. Like forward.
- 36:06Switch, switch. OK and I I hate what if.
- 36:09What if ADP didn't exist though? What do you?
- 36:12Mean like, like you go into a draft and like, there's no such
- 36:15thing as ADP, like who do you want on your team?
- 36:17Yeah. No, no, no, I know.
- 36:18But you picking splash because everyone's gonna take.
- 36:20Special might. You could take Spanish and there
- 36:22would, that's what. I'm saying like you could.
- 36:25You're asking like value of where they're gonna be.
- 36:28Drafted kind of like I'm just. Saying the 5th or sure within
- 36:30the 10th type of thing. Like would you rather have?
- 36:32Yeah. But I'm saying like, if you're
- 36:33like just doing a draft and like there's no particular order on
- 36:36the screen, other opponents don't see ADP and, you know,
- 36:39Sherwood and Smash are both on your watchlist.
- 36:41Yeah, no, but you know what I'm saying, I think.
- 36:43She would probably help. The likelihood that Sasha is
- 36:46going to get picked higher it it makes you want to pick Spanish
- 36:49because you could easily grab smash.
- 36:50I'd probably decent value this year.
- 36:53The point difference is enough to make much better, but like I
- 36:56don't. I never enjoy having such on my
- 36:57team. My team this year.
- 36:59Would have been like if he does anything like you did.
- 37:01Last year he's a blast. Because you didn't invest like
- 37:04True Yeah, draft capital that points from his.
- 37:07Putting up are just like you see a double digit in any category
- 37:09other than Pimms and you're like, yeah, what is going on
- 37:12you? Know free software?
- 37:13Face off wins. Yeah, exactly.
- 37:14Those two are like the only ones that like, you know, you see
- 37:17that you're like, OK, cool, it's just another day.
- 37:18But like, you see that in hits and that's crazy.
- 37:21That's like, I had to lose on two years ago and he was running
- 37:23up like eight hits and I was like, this is the best hits
- 37:25player in the history of the game.
- 37:27You know, like like 12. Like, yeah, yeah, no, that's
- 37:30just insane. I mean, if Heyman wasn't didn't
- 37:32get injured like these playoffs and like I wasn't worried about
- 37:34his health going into next season.
- 37:35Have you seen the he's been doing in the playoffs?
- 37:37Yeah, I've been inside. Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen this
- 37:39like by far. Had a game where you had like 12
- 37:41hits or like. Yeah, he's.
- 37:43Like at some point the people are counting these hits are just
- 37:46like. Yeah, they're definitely,
- 37:48definitely the thing though. Like different different arenas.
- 37:50Different. Doctors and like some, are known
- 37:52for hitting more. I know they target some arenas
- 37:54more than more. There's like some teams.
- 37:55Do you really? Yeah, some are known for like.
- 37:59You do that too? Yeah, some some arenas are known
- 38:01for having me looking for streamers.
- 38:04OK, Yeah, I had no idea that you guys do that.
- 38:10Not as wild. As is surrounded by sharks.
- 38:14Holy holy moly, this is scary. Anyway, moving on again, same
- 38:18date, November 20th. Kevin Betts, Josh that Marty
- 38:21Natus ends the year with more points than Kyle Connor.
- 38:24Not even. Close.
- 38:25Really, Jake, you just like set me up on November 20th.
- 38:27You like Jimmy, don't make it up.
- 38:30Yeah, seriously. Remember this episode?
- 38:32Because I had the bet wins. Kyle Connor, 97 points, absolute
- 38:38monster. But you know what?
- 38:40It's almost as impressive that nature's got 85 because I feel
- 38:43like on the non rod team this guy is a machine.
- 38:48Never goes to the Colorado. Maybe he beats the record.
- 38:50What? No.
- 38:51No, I'm saying the opposite. Earlier, yeah.
- 38:55Sorry that he could have gone close like at least in like 90.
- 38:59Two telling you guys at the time, and I'll repeat it now,
- 39:01that Connor is criminally. Underrated.
- 39:03Be like President's winners for. Sure, but I mean even even if
- 39:06the team wasn't doing that well, like Connor has been sick for
- 39:09like years and like no one gives him credit like fantasy wise or
- 39:13at least we're given the credit he.
- 39:14Deserves you take Connor on the second round.
- 39:17Like to me this is crazy to not do that.
- 39:19Like at this point his shots are sick.
- 39:21His shots are like four shots a game.
- 39:23Like at least like if he if I think he can repeat this, and I
- 39:25mean, Winnipeg was really good. I don't.
- 39:27Know before you go 60. One point of 1/3, like an early
- 39:30third round. But I think like he depending on
- 39:32who else is available, he can definitely, I definitely see him
- 39:34getting taken. Senator Carl Connor.
- 39:36OK, hold on, hold on. They are.
- 39:39Theoretically, but it's OK, it's weird stuff is gonna.
- 39:42Happen this offseason. So 2324 he averaged .94 points
- 39:46per game. Yeah, this year, how much do you
- 39:48think 1.18? Yeah, that's now.
- 39:51He definitely had a huge career. That's like way more 2/5.
- 39:55More no his go to like she's 29 good player was goals and shots
- 39:59yeah like points wise he's like you know like a solid point per
- 40:03game, but but the same was already good like I'm not
- 40:06saying. Like he scored the same.
- 40:07Just assisted way more exactly. But he's always been really good
- 40:11at like goals and shots. He just got better at assists
- 40:14because the rest that he had on his line.
- 40:16So and Shipley also had an unreal year.
- 40:20Yeah, it's it was an interesting year with with Connor for sure.
- 40:251.18 It's definitely a career year for. 2 interesting years
- 40:29for two good players, but you guys were so hot.
- 40:31You guys were flying so high on nachos at the at this time like
- 40:34he was this was before way before the trade.
- 40:36This was him like just killing it the first like month or two.
- 40:40He was playing like a first round pick at that time.
- 40:42So you guys were like so hype on him.
- 40:44But but I knew my boy Kyle Connor would.
- 40:46Come through, How do you think he goes next year?
- 40:49Too high. Too high.
- 40:51I'm not. I'm not.
- 40:51Targeting the third. Like I think he.
- 40:53Can I can see where did Denzel get taken the?
- 40:55Points. To say like 3rd or 4th.
- 40:57I can see him getting taken around like I view that similar
- 41:00like similar vocabulary. He'll be just.
- 41:03I guess I'm getting taken like in the third or. 4th like why
- 41:06would I take more chinko over over changes?
- 41:09The shots angle. Fair.
- 41:11That's like my like natures is like.
- 41:13Larger nature. He's gonna be like, this was
- 41:16his, like, best year ever, Yeah. And he was just over point per
- 41:18game and he didn't do much in terms of back hats.
- 41:22Larkin or natures? Probably Larkin.
- 41:24Larkin, Yeah. So dynamic it tasted so.
- 41:28Wyatt. Yeah, just just you know what,
- 41:32the only thing with Johnston is that I don't know, the stars are
- 41:35too are too deep. So.
- 41:36They scare me. It's gonna be a Mauser.
- 41:38He's playing with the best player in the world.
- 41:40Yeah, like no natures. Like natures is Natures could
- 41:43get 100 points this year, and I'm saying that because I got 87
- 41:45on a raw team. Hello, that's.
- 41:48Funny. Not such an OVI.
- 41:50Probably. Teenagers over haven't been
- 41:53taking over for the past like. It was so fun though this.
- 41:56Is gonna be his last year though, like he said.
- 41:58Yeah, like this is last year in the NHL.
- 42:00So over Albertson. Yeah, that means Robinson
- 42:04falling to the fifth round. Yeah, I could see that.
- 42:07But actually like Robertson was one of my like low key targets,
- 42:09I think because. You have the point.
- 42:12Yeah, and he started off super slow.
- 42:14Yeah, Like, no, I'm really high on ages.
- 42:16Like extremely. I just think that like Kyle
- 42:18Connor is like actually sick. Like they.
- 42:20Just get 90 points next year. I think so.
- 42:22That's like like. But I think he doesn't.
- 42:26Odd team shot, you know, is horrible to be an owner and then
- 42:30he moves to play with McKinnon. There's no better landing spot.
- 42:33Literally. McDavid does not get the like.
- 42:35Out of much better than you do on Colorado versus.
- 42:37Then, but it was good season. Here's a whole offseason to
- 42:40practice with him. Not like I think he's walking
- 42:41around next The Walking out next year with 100 easy, easy.
- 42:45Probably probably like not even sealing saying between 90 and
- 42:49110. Like I think nature is sick.
- 42:51With nothing like with no other cats coverage though look at
- 42:54power play points. I don't know.
- 42:57I don't need to have three shots.
- 42:59Yeah. Nevertheless, I understand why
- 43:00you wouldn't be too hard, but yeah.
- 43:02Like I just think like he just had 85 and it was his best
- 43:04season ever. Like I could see him.
- 43:06I could see. Him yeah blow out because here
- 43:08but it was also changed at like describes the jumping points
- 43:12yeah. Exactly, that's not true, he was
- 43:15doing crazy in points before the trade.
- 43:18It's not like the trade cost him to have this crazy year.
- 43:20He was already having a. Crazy.
- 43:22If if Mckinnon's getting 120. Like someone needs to be there
- 43:26like. Yeah.
- 43:27Someone write shotgun. Yeah, that's fair.
- 43:29I mean, we'll also have to see with like offseason, like apps
- 43:32are definitely gonna make a move with all that empty ranting in
- 43:34space, you know, So who knows what happens.
- 43:36But no, I like Nachos a lot. I think he's going to be a good
- 43:38pick up and he's gonna be a good contributor on any team.
- 43:41But that early on, I'm looking for, you know, guys who are more
- 43:44guaranteed. To kill the points of Panera.
- 43:46And this year, you were happier with Natures.
- 43:48Yeah, but I think we all think. The same type of player does.
- 43:51Panera is more elite. A little bit more reliable.
- 43:54But aren't shoots more and I would expect an iron to get more
- 43:57points than. Each like Marchenko images are
- 43:59in the same conversation For me, Yeah, we're all probably taking
- 44:01inches. 18 inches getting more points but Marchenko is gonna
- 44:04have way more. Shots I would take natures
- 44:06higher than you guys, there's no doubt about it and I feel like
- 44:09very confident in doing it. I'm avoiding him.
- 44:11Yeah. All right, that wraps up part
- 44:13one of our beer bets episode. Stay tuned for the next one
- 44:19outro. Sorry, I was just finishing my
- 44:22beer. Yeah, the next one is going to
- 44:26be good because we're gonna be a couple more beers deep, so we'll
- 44:28see what other crazy takes we get.
- 44:29Into might sound different, yeah.
- 44:31Exactly. About Bound Banger management
- 44:34Fantasy hockey podcast Woo. Woo woo woo.
- 44:38That sounded different. All right, let's down some
- 44:43beers.