Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #174: Mark uses the case of a local bleeding heart judge to demonstrate how electing a Democrat governor makes the state far less safe because every judicial vacancy in Wisconsin is filled by a Governor appointment and Democrats only name soft on crime judges. Can MPS become any more of a joke? A fake teacher wanders into a school and blathers for two hours before any of the MPS dolts know it's even happening.

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Mark Belling Podcast #174: Mark uses the case of a local bleeding heart judge to demonstrate how electing a Democrat governor makes the state far less safe because every judicial vacancy in Wisconsin is filled by a Governor appointment and Democrats only name soft on crime judges. Can MPS become any more of a joke? A fake teacher wanders into a school and blathers for two hours before any of the MPS dolts know it's even happening. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about what I think is the
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  Speaker 2: biggest unspoken issue in the governor's election in Wisconsin. I
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  Speaker 2: never think Republican candidates make a big enough deal of this,
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  Speaker 2: in part because it requires a little bit of explanation. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good at explaining. There are people who believe that
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  Speaker 2: the issue of crime doesn't come in to a governor's
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  Speaker 2: election because what does a governor have to do with crime?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the response to that. Under Wisconsin law, Every single
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  Speaker 2: vacancy for judge in the state, from circuit court on up,
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  Speaker 2: is filled by appointment by the governor. Doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: be confirmed or anything. The governor names the judge. Every
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  Speaker 2: circuit judge in the state of Wisconsin, every state appeals
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  Speaker 2: court judge, and every justice on the Supreme Court. Now, ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: they have to stand for elections. But they're judges until
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  Speaker 2: they stand for election. And as we all know, in
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  Speaker 2: many instances, these judges that are appointed never get opposition
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  Speaker 2: when they're up for election. So we've gone through now
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  Speaker 2: eight consecutive years of every single judicial vacancy in Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: having been filled by a Democrat governor, Tony Evers. and
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  Speaker 2: with maybe some exceptions, I admit I don't know every
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  Speaker 2: judge in the state of Wisconsin, they've been terrible. One
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  Speaker 2: of the hard things for citizens to do is keep
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  Speaker 2: track of which judge does what. You'll hear all the time,
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  Speaker 2: for example, when a drunk driving case or some case
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  Speaker 2: is handled leniently, people will say, oh, these judges are
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  Speaker 2: so soft. Well, that's true. Those judges are really soft.
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  Speaker 2: But not all judges are soft. I talk a lot
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  Speaker 2: about the concept of judicial roulette. What happens to you
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  Speaker 2: has a lot to do with which judge gets your case.
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  Speaker 2: In counties like Milwaukee, where we have nearly 50 judges,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the number is. It's way up there.
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  Speaker 2: There's actually a handful of pretty tough judges, and one
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  Speaker 2: of them is on the criminal rotation right now, David Borowski.
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  Speaker 2: The crook who lands in Borowski's court is less lucky
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  Speaker 2: than the crook who lands in the court of one
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  Speaker 2: of the many bleeding heart judges. Waukesha County has had
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  Speaker 2: over the years a collection of judges ranging from pretty
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  Speaker 2: crappy to really good. Who your judge is has a
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  Speaker 2: lot to do with what your sentence is going to
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  Speaker 2: be and how your case is handled. The only way
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  Speaker 2: to illustrate this It's the cherry pick. So I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to pull out one case involving one judge and then
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  Speaker 2: explain how it's a trend. And we're going to extrapolate
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  Speaker 2: that across the state of Wisconsin. It doesn't always hold.
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  Speaker 2: For example, if we elect Tom Tiffany as governor, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure he'll name some judges that turn out to be
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  Speaker 2: not that good, as we all know. Look at President Trump.
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  Speaker 2: He deeply regrets a couple of his appointees. You do
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  Speaker 2: everything you can to try to make sure of the
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  Speaker 2: ideology of an individual, but sometimes they disappoint you when
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  Speaker 2: they get on there. But by and large, the judges that,
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  Speaker 2: for example, Scott Walker, who was governor for eight years,
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  Speaker 2: we've had eight years of Walker and eight years of Evers,
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  Speaker 2: the judges Walker put on the bench are overwhelmingly better.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to dive in, and in an individual
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  Speaker 2: case at a local county here, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: use this and justify extrapolating it statewide. Have you ever
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  Speaker 2: of time, every single judge in Washington County, Wisconsin, was
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  Speaker 2: appointed by a Democrat governor. Fortunately, that's changing. after me
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  Speaker 2: riding and haranguing on this for years, the illegal community
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  Speaker 2: and the Republican Party in Washington County started to get
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  Speaker 2: its act together and started to put up conservative candidates
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  Speaker 2: to run against the crappy lefty judges that have been
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the bench in that county. Washington County is
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  Speaker 2: one of, if not the most conservative counties in the state.
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  Speaker 2: Generally speaking, in a statewide election, the percentage of the
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  Speaker 2: vote that goes to a Republican candidate is highest in
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  Speaker 2: Washington County out of all the 72 counties. Every now
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  Speaker 2: and then, one or two counties in northern Wisconsin might
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  Speaker 2: be higher. But it's right there. So you would think
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  Speaker 2: of all the counties that would have a conservative judge,
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  Speaker 2: it would be that one. But instead, they've had some really, really,
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  Speaker 2: really soft judges. Let's talk about the case now of
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  Speaker 2: one of them. Her name is Sandra Giernath. She was
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  Speaker 2: appointed to the bench by Tony Evers in 2020. And
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  Speaker 2: I've chronicled some of her cases and some of her
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  Speaker 2: sentencings over the years. And we're going to chronicle one
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  Speaker 2: right now, and it happens to be one that you'll
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  Speaker 2: be able to get a visual on. You could watch
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  Speaker 2: it after the show. You can stop the podcast and
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  Speaker 2: listen to it now. But on X, where I post
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  Speaker 2: under Mark Belling's show, I posted a YouTube video. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's YouTube videos of policing anywhere cops have
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  Speaker 2: body cameras and dash cams. They're turning out stuff that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of juicy and turning them into YouTube videos.
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  Speaker 2: And just about every police agency in Wisconsin, except Waukesha
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  Speaker 2: County and the city of Madison, have body cams. Both
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  Speaker 2: say they're going to address that. I hope so. So
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  Speaker 2: from Washington County, we have a case in which they
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  Speaker 2: showed the body cam of the incident to the attempts
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  Speaker 2: to book and the attempts to get a blood draw
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  Speaker 2: of a case from last year involving a fifth offense
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  Speaker 2: drunk driver. It was fifth offense and then there was
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  Speaker 2: aggravation involved. The guy's name is Derek Terry. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 2: if you were just going to cast a fifth defense
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  Speaker 2: drunk driver who would be a pain in the ass
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  Speaker 2: during his arrest, if you hired an actor to play him,
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  Speaker 2: you'd pick a guy that looked like Derek Terry. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you should see him. He's wearing a white beater shirt,
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  Speaker 2: a Packer white beater shirt. He looks like they all look,
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  Speaker 2: bald with a beard, big husky guy. He's stopped by
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  Speaker 2: the authorities after fleeing through a couple of stop signs,
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  Speaker 2: and they're finally able to detain him. on Fifth Offense OWI,
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  Speaker 2: and he's resisting, and he's fighting, and he's lipping off,
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  Speaker 2: and he's being nothing but a pain in the butt
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  Speaker 2: the entire time. They take him to the hospital for
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  Speaker 2: the blood draw, and he's trying to claim constitutional rights
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  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. He's being very difficult to the
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  Speaker 2: poor nurse's job it is to do the blood draw.
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  Speaker 2: In the end, they got the blood draw done, and
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  Speaker 2: he was charged with multiple felonies. In addition to Fifth
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  Speaker 2: Offense OWI, In fact, I pulled the original story that
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  Speaker 2: appeared in the West Bend Daily News. This case, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, was from August of last year is when
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  Speaker 2: the incident occurred. He was originally charged with eight felonies
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  Speaker 2: and misdemeanors. Fifth offense, OWI. In addition to the OWI,
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  Speaker 2: they charged him with possession of THC, second offense or better,
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  Speaker 2: that's usually the marijuana, battery or threat of it to
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  Speaker 2: a judge, prosecutor, or law enforcement officer, that was the
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  Speaker 2: threats he was making to the cops, as well as
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  Speaker 2: five misdemeanors for resisting, failing to stop, operating while revoked, ignition, interlock,
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  Speaker 2: device tampering, failure to install, possession of drug paraphernalia, resisting
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  Speaker 2: and obstructing an officer. He ended up being convicted of
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  Speaker 2: three felonies. Now, I want to interject here. One of
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  Speaker 2: the things that you hear all the time from people is,
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  Speaker 2: where are the tougher laws? And I'm certainly not opposed
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  Speaker 2: to tougher laws. But in most cases, the laws we
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  Speaker 2: have in the book are tough enough. But just because
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  Speaker 2: the law is tough and the possible sentence is tough,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean your judge is going to take advantage of that.
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  Speaker 2: In this instance, when he was arrested... Terry was eligible for,
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  Speaker 2: if sentenced to the max, 22 and a half years
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  Speaker 2: in prison. Now, first of all, the guy's fifth offense.
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  Speaker 2: And if you've been listening to me for a while,
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  Speaker 2: you know my philosophy on drunk driving. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we need to ruin people's lives on first offense. I
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  Speaker 2: just don't. The Tony Romo case is an example. It
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  Speaker 2: was his first offense. Thank God he didn't hurt anybody.
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  Speaker 2: He's suffering massive consequence to his employment. but he didn't
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  Speaker 2: need to go to jail for five years. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's overwhelmingly likely Tony Romo has learned from this and
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  Speaker 2: it'll never happen to him again. Second offense, time to
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  Speaker 2: start teaching people lessons. Third offense, they're making it pretty clear.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't learned their lesson and they're not going to.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth offense, they're flipping society off. Fifth offense, this is
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's just a drunk and says, screw it, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to drive. I'm going to get drunk and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to drive. Sixth, seventh, eighth. These are people that
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  Speaker 2: are just time bombs. They're people that are constantly drunk,
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  Speaker 2: constantly driving, and they're the likeliest ones to kill someone.
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  Speaker 2: So this guy's on fifth offense. But then it's aggravated.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a driver's license. And whenever you get
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  Speaker 2: cases like this, they always just destroy and ignore that fact.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a driver's license because it's still revoked
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  Speaker 2: because of the earlier drunk driving and other traffic violations
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  Speaker 2: he had. So he blew that off. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a driver's license. He's going to drive. There's nothing in
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  Speaker 2: here redeeming. There's no mitigating factors. He would be a
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  Speaker 2: poster child for putting the hammer down on someone. But
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  Speaker 2: he got lucky. First of all, he was lucky in
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  Speaker 2: the first place that he's driving drunk in Washington County because,
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  Speaker 2: as I say, The majority of the judges there stink. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 2: there are now two good ones. The last two elections
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  Speaker 2: in Washington County, crappy lefty judges were voted off the
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  Speaker 2: bench by the voters. But there's some bad ones up there.
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  Speaker 2: More on that in a moment. The sentence that Sandra Gearnoth, Evers' appointee,
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  Speaker 2: gave Derek Carey is three years. That's it. Three years.
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  Speaker 2: And my guess is the last number of months are
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  Speaker 2: going to be served and conditional release. And he's got
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  Speaker 2: probation after that. Probation, of course, is the biggest joke
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  Speaker 2: because when we have a Democratic governor, they never revoke anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Three years. There are judges in this state that would
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  Speaker 2: have given him many more years than that. But those
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  Speaker 2: judges tend to be people who have a conservative philosophy
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to crime and chronic repeat criminals. And
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  Speaker 2: I do believe chronic repeat needs to be put in
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  Speaker 2: a different category. We have people who do terrible things
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  Speaker 2: with a completely clean record prior to that. I do
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  Speaker 2: not believe those people should be given a pass. But
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  Speaker 2: people who are chronic and do the same terrible things
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  Speaker 2: over and over and over again need to be treated
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  Speaker 2: more harshly. If for no other reason than, we know
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  Speaker 2: they're going to repeat and do it again. It's their pattern.
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  Speaker 2: You may recall the name Sandra Gernot. I've talked about
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  Speaker 2: her before on my program. I want to resurrect my
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  Speaker 2: commentary on a case from late last year. It had
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  Speaker 2: to do, this case, by the way, made national news.
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  Speaker 2: You may recall it. It involved a young woman named,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Sophia. I want to get her first
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  Speaker 2: name here. Sophia Malik. Sophia Malik, and you may remember
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  Speaker 2: this and me discussing it on the program here. They
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  Speaker 2: were having in Hartford a Christmas giveaway thing where the
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  Speaker 2: police officers were handing out gifts to kids. It was
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  Speaker 2: like one of those community things where you get donations
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  Speaker 2: for toys for kids for Christmas. So the police officers
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  Speaker 2: handed out and they were doing it at the local Walmart.
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  Speaker 2: Remember this story? She comes in there and shoplifts when
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  Speaker 2: the store is filled with cops. What I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: do here is read the newspaper column I wrote on
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  Speaker 2: this incident back in December of last year, because it
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  Speaker 2: emphasizes what happens. And again, this is Washington County, where
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  Speaker 2: you have a bunch of Evers-appointed Democrat judges, because two
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  Speaker 2: of them, including Giernauth, handled this case. I wrote, What
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  Speaker 2: happens when all the judges in a county are Tony
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  Speaker 2: Evers appointees? One of the results is your county becomes
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  Speaker 2: fodder for stories in the national media like the New
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  Speaker 2: York Post. The other is that crime runs rampant as
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  Speaker 2: lawbreakers realize none of the Evers judges will do anything
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  Speaker 2: to them. This is certainly the case in Milwaukee County
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  Speaker 2: where most, but not all, of the judges were appointed
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  Speaker 2: to the bench by Evers or fellow Democrat Jim Doyle
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  Speaker 2: or ran for office with the support of the liberal community.
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  Speaker 2: It's also the case in Dane County where every single
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  Speaker 2: one of the judges was a Democrat governor appointee or
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  Speaker 2: elected or running as a progressive. The result in Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: County is people driving for years without licenses and with
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  Speaker 2: unregistered vehicles, breaking all manner of traffic laws in the process.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing is ever done to them because leftist judges don't
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  Speaker 2: like to do anything to people who do minor stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. But those counties have something of an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the people who live in Dane and Milwaukee
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  Speaker 2: counties are themselves leftist Democrats. But this column isn't about
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  Speaker 2: those counties. It's about one of the most conservative counties
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  Speaker 2: in the state of Wisconsin, in which somehow every single
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  Speaker 2: one of the current sitting judges is an appointee of
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  Speaker 2: Tony Everson. Again, I wrote this last year. The most
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  Speaker 2: recent election in April of this year, they flipped one
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  Speaker 2: of those seats and a conservative judge got elected. That'd
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  Speaker 2: be Washington County, wherever, wherever, where, let me go back
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  Speaker 2: to where I was. It's one of the most conservative
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  Speaker 2: counties in the state and one in which every single
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  Speaker 2: one of the current sitting judges is an appointee of
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  Speaker 2: Tony Evers. That'd be Washington County, where a previously semi-dormant
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  Speaker 2: GOP organization and sluggish elected officials have watched Evers put
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  Speaker 2: one lousy lefty on the bench after another and then
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  Speaker 2: allowed those judges to be elected to full terms without
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  Speaker 2: opposition or without supporting challenging candidates. This brings us to
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  Speaker 2: the Hartford shoplifter. Sophia Malik has made national news by
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  Speaker 2: returning to the same Hartford Walmart in which, according to
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  Speaker 2: a criminal complaint, she had stolen $ 600 worth of stuff
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  Speaker 2: a few days earlier. Now, let me interject. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you all know this, but Walmart is one
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  Speaker 2: of the retailers that takes shoplifting seriously. They have surveillance
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  Speaker 2: cameras in there and constant people working in the loss
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  Speaker 2: prevention office always looking at the cameras. And if somebody
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  Speaker 2: gets out of there without them detecting them, they save
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  Speaker 2: the images, facial recognition, so they know that if the
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  Speaker 2: person ever comes in to keep their eye out for them. Walmart.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, she had gotten away with $ 600 worth of stuff, allegedly,
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  Speaker 2: from Walmart a few days later. This time, she had
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  Speaker 2: a shopping cart full of stuff that she later admitted
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  Speaker 2: she was also going to steal. So after stealing from
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  Speaker 2: the same Walmart, she's back in there and she's piling
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  Speaker 2: all of their shopping cart with stuff that she then
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  Speaker 2: admitted after being caught, yeah, I was going to steal it.
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  Speaker 2: Sophia's problem is that the store was packed with Hartford
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  Speaker 2: cops because it was the day they had a shop
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  Speaker 2: with a cop Christmas promotion for kids. Sophia admitted she
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  Speaker 2: was going to steal the stuff, but says she changed
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  Speaker 2: her mind when she saw the place crawling with cops.
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  Speaker 2: All of the above has been reported from the media
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  Speaker 2: from here and from the entire world. What nobody is
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  Speaker 2: reporting is is the rest of Sophia's 2025. On May 27th,
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  Speaker 2: Sophia was criminally charged with driving without an operator's license,
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  Speaker 2: with an enhancer for it being the second time in
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  Speaker 2: three years. She was arrested by the Washington County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: Department and given a July court date. One day later,
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  Speaker 2: one day later, Sophia was charged again with driving without
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  Speaker 2: a license by the same Sheriff's Department. She was again
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  Speaker 2: given a court date conveniently the same day and time
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  Speaker 2: as the one from the charge from the day before.
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  Speaker 2: Less than a month later, Sophia was driving again and
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  Speaker 2: caught again in Washington County, this time by the state patrol.
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  Speaker 2: She was given yet another July 14th court date. July
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  Speaker 2: 14th arrived and Sophia was due in the courtroom of
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  Speaker 2: Evers appointee Michael Keenitz. Sophia didn't show up. Keenitz issued
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  Speaker 2: an arrest warrant. On August 18th, she evidently was arrested
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  Speaker 2: and the warrant and hauled into Keenitz's court. With three
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  Speaker 2: pending driving without a license criminal charges on her, Keenitz
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  Speaker 2: promptly released Sophia on a measly $ 250 signature bond. A
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  Speaker 2: signature bond means you don't have to put up any cash,
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  Speaker 2: you just sign your name. Judicial nincompoops like Keenitz either
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  Speaker 2: can't figure out Sophia will keep driving or, more likely,
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  Speaker 2: don't give a lick. Just to prove she can illegally
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  Speaker 2: drive somewhere other than Washington County, Sophia was charged October
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  Speaker 2: 22nd in Waukesha County for, you guessed it, driving without
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  Speaker 2: a license. This time it was Brookfield Police. She actually
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  Speaker 2: showed up for her October 28th hearing date, and Waukesha
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  Speaker 2: County Court Commissioner Christopher Bailey weenily slapped her with a
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  Speaker 2: $ 267 fine. Guess what? She hasn't paid it. On December 3rd,
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  Speaker 2: security video allegedly showed Sophia walking out of the Hartford
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  Speaker 2: Walmart with $ 600 worth of items. Three days later, on
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  Speaker 2: December 6th, Sophia, still free on her no-cash bond, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: having absconded on the $ 267 fine, waltzed back into the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Hartford Walmart and began loading her cart. That's the day
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Hartford police were having their event in the store. She
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: was arrested and the story has made national news. Sophia
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: was charged with felony retail theft and three counts of
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: bail jumping for violating all those signature bonds. She appeared
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: before yet another Evers-appointed Washington County judge. All right, drumroll.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Who do you think this is going to be? That's right,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Sandra Giranath. Did Giranath learn from her fellow Evers appointee,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Kenitz's dopinets? Evidently not. Giranath released Sophia on a signature bond.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Steal stuff in broad daylight, drive without a license, get
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: caught doing it, get caught, keep doing it with zero consequences.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Just make sure to do it in a county where
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: all the judges were appointed. By Tony Evers. Now, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: wrote that column in December. Now, the good news here
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: with regard to Sandra Gearnath is there's a very qualified
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: candidate named Nolan Jensen who's going to run against her
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: this coming April, April of 2027. So, if the people
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: of Washington County decide that they don't want to have
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a joke of a bleeding heart lefty like Gearnath continuing
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to make a fool of herself on the bench up there,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they can throw her off. But the larger point in
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the governor's race is when you have a candidate with
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a known conservative law and order philosophy, Tiffany, and you
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: have a candidate like now Crowley, who, if anything, is
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: far more lenient given the fact that he has backed
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: every one of the lefty judges currently on the bench
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee County. What do you think we're going to
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: get statewide? This is all 72 counties. And every time
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: any one of you has a vacancy, he's going to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: find some lefty defense attorney or lefty campaign contributor and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: slap that person on the bench. You could say, well,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: how do you know that he wouldn't put a conservative?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Why would a lefty bleeding heart governor appoint a conservative
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to the bench anywhere? Evers hasn't done it once. He
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: didn't even do it in Washington County where you figure, okay,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I'll try to get one of my appointees reelected. Let's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: slide in there somebody who might be somewhat reasonable.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So you can sit back and keep bitching and griping
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and whining about the fact that judges are so lenient
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: on repeat chronic criminals in Wisconsin. Or you can do
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: something about it by stop voting For the governor, he
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: keeps putting judges with those types of philosophies on the bench.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And we've certainly seen, for example, in Waukesha County, where
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: there's a range of judicial philosophies, that there is a
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: significant difference in what happens to you depending on whose
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: courtroom you landed. Let me move to another story. This
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: one was first reported by Dan O'Donnell. Newstalk 1130 WISN.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Woman walks into a Milwaukee public school's high school. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: one of the purportedly better ones, Rufus King. Even this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is how Rufus King, I mean, MPS is just so
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: full of crap. They call Rufus King, Rufus King International School. Yeah, okay. Okay.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Rufus King, again, is thought to be one of the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: better academic schools that MPS runs. I don't know. You
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to tell it by this story because
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: the administrators and people who work at Rufus King appear
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to be a bunch of idiots. Some woman with a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: history of mental illness walks into the school, claims she's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a substitute teacher, goes into a classroom and starts to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: teach and then does it in another classroom. This went
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: on for two hours. She wasn't an assigned substitute teacher.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: She's not anything. And according to Dan's report, she got
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: up there and she was making lewd comments to the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: class and talking about all manner of insane, crazy things.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: This went on for two hours. Now, let's start with this.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: First of all, I thought that there's all this security
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: at the schools and that you just can't walk into
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the schools. They've been talking about all these school shootings
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and so on. that they've got measures in place. We've
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: spent a fortune of tax money on all these security
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: locked doors and cameras and so on. So let's just
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: start with, aside from the fact that she got into
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the classroom, that she got into the school at all.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know this, but I'm assuming that if I
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: went to Rufus King this afternoon, the door would be
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: locked and I'd have to buzz or something. I don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: know that though. I'm just assuming after all the money
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: we spent on school security, that there'd at least be
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: something to stop any goof like, say, me from wandering in.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: But she not only gets in, She goes into a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: classroom and runs it for an hour and then does
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: it in another classroom. Now, here are my questions. When
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: she came in, don't you have to show something that
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you're the sub? Did she just tell somebody I'm the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: sub and you don't have to show anything or say
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: your name? Also, and I realize they have subs all
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the time because MPS teachers are always taking time off
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: or aren't in or claim their second, so on. There's
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: subs running these classes all the time. But do they
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: not have a list of, okay, here's who's assigned for
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: this class on this day, and then check it against that?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And if she's in there babbling all sorts of stuff,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: they didn't pick up on any kind of weirdness that
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: she had, and then she's in there for an hour
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: talking all stupid and so on. Did any students complain
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to anybody about this? What we know is these MPS
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: schools are crawling with administrators. Rufus King has principals, assistant principals, counselors, paraprofessionals,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: all this crap. And here this woman is in there
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and then she goes into another two hours. My guess
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: is finally one or two of the kids went to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the office and said, hey, there's a weirdo in there.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: We don't think she's supposed to be in there or
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: there's a teacher. She appears to be off her meds
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: or something or another. The follow-up story in Fox 6
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: says staff didn't follow protocol. Protocol? You know what this
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: would be like? Jason, you still do a show here.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: They haven't fired you yet, have they? You're still on there.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So let's imagine if Jason took one of his seemingly
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: many days off. He works the 9 to 11 shift
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at News Talk 1130 WISN. And let's just imagine this
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: woman wandered into the building and sat her ass down
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: in your chair. First of all, I'm assuming Dave Michaels
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: produces Jason's show. I'm assuming Dave Michaels would have known
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: who the substitute was supposed to be. We also have
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: security in here. You can't just walk into the building.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: You've got to buzz and contact somebody to get in there. Plus...
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Once you're on there, somebody would probably notice this doesn't
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: appear to be a conservative talk show host at WISN.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: It appears to be a deranged lunatic. And I know
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: what you're thinking. They had a deranged lunatic for 35 years,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: me doing a show. Nonetheless. Now, I've got other questions, too.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: What if she was a wacko with guns? Again, I
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: don't know if she passed through metal detectors. but there
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: certainly wasn't any monitoring of who it is that was
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: coming into the building. And we all know that you
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: can do terrible things with stuff that wouldn't check through
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a metal detector. She could have been a weirdo carrying poison.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: She could have been anything. And again, she's acting weird
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: for two hours before anybody at Rufus King got off
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: their lazy, overpaid MPS butts and did anything. And keep
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: telling me, that we've got to give even more to MPS.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, on that issue, another issue that I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: think is not sufficiently being raised in the governor's election,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: we hear from every suburban school district in southeastern Wisconsin
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that they're screwed under the state aid formula. This is
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: what they always do when they cry that they need
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to pass a tax referendum. We're screwed under the state
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: aid formula. We're screwed under the state aid formula. Well,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the Reality is they are screwed under the state aid formula,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: but they still get a load of money anyway. The
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: reason they're screwed under the state aid formula is big
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: urban districts like Milwaukee get way more money per student than, say,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: a district like Arrowhead. Can you imagine how much worse
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it will be if Crowley gets in? Now, the problem,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of course, is that every school district wants to have
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: more state aid than they currently have, and there's only
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: so much to dole around. And they base a portion
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of it on property value and income in the area,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: so they figure poorer districts need more state aid than
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: really rich districts that have big property, you know, highly
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: assessed properties, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But for
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: all these school districts out there who want to get
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Crowley elected governor because they think he's going to pump
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: more money into school aid and so on, except understand
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: our school aid goes to the formula and this formula
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is going to be so tilted to Madison and Milwaukee
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and the city of Green Bay and all the other
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: urban districts, you're not going to get diddly squat out
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of it. A follow-up on a story that we discussed
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: on Monday's podcast. I discussed the situation in Menominee Falls
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: where the school district has hired the biased fake surveying
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: company called School Perceptions to gauge public attitudes on spending
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: in the school district. I've been commenting on School Perceptions
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: for any number of years. They're a company that's based
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: in Slinger. They do not do unbiased attempts to simply
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: gauge opinion They have a history, and over the years
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I've read their survey questions. They ask loaded questions, so
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the survey itself becomes propaganda toward leading people to think
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that there needs to be a tax increase. In other words,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the question will put as a statement of fact that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the school district is in such dire need of money
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and then ask, well, should we do it? They advertise
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: on their own website the success they have had in
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: helping school districts pass referendums. Anyway, in my show on Monday,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I criticized the Menominee Falls School Board because a number
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of conservatives were elected to that board several years ago.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Here they go. And I have been told by a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: couple of Menominee Falls residents that the left, the liberals,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: have taken control of the school board there so that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I can't entirely blame the conservative members of the board
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: because there is liberal majority on the school board in
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Menominee Falls. However, since I did that story, I have
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: learned that the Arrowhead School District is also using school perceptions.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Arrowhead tried to pass a referendum a year or two
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: ago in which they sought a massive amount of money
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to tear down one school and build an entirely new
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: school and do enormous improvements at Arrowhead. It was rejected,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: but they're trying to pass another referendum now. I received
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: this from a listener. Mark, I received another survey from
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: School Perceptions about the next upcoming Arrowhead referendum. And then
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the person describes who he is and what his background is. Now,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the Arrowhead School Board, despite the fact that they keep
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: trying to raise taxes with these referendums, keeps claiming that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: they're conservative. And the majority of the members elected to
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the Arrowhead School Board, and again, Arrowhead is this huge
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: mega district. They only run one school, a high school,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: in northern Waukesha County. A number of elementary districts feed
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: into the Arrowhead High School District. But if they were
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: so conservative, they wouldn't hire school perceptions. If they were
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: legitimately interested in finding out what the public truly supports
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and what they don't support, they would hire an unbiased
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: firm that asks the question right down the middle rather
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: than hire this firm that's out there and advertises that
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: we're out there to try to help you get your
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: referendum passed. I've been contacted by a listener who has
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: some insight on this. He points out that one of
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the reasons why so many of these districts use school
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: perceptions is the Wisconsin Association of School Boards often recommends them.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I've been on this kick for a while. I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: any school board that was truly run by conservatives would
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: drop their membership in the Association of School Boards. The
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Association of School Boards is not only overwhelmingly leftist, its
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: guidance is terrible. The Wisconsin Association of School Boards is
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the same organization that gave legal advice to the principal
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: at Arrowhead High School, same district we're talking about before
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: in the school perceptions, when they told a student that
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: she could not present a slideshow at graduation that mentioned
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: her faith in Jesus. Total violation of her rights under
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the First Amendment. the Constitution of the United States, and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the school district was forced to apologize later after Wisconsin
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Institute of Law and Liberty contacted the district and represented
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the student on their behalf. So the guidance that they
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: got from the Wisconsin Association of School Board was actually
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: contrary to the law rather than following the law. Anyway,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I received this from a listener. He asked me not
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to identify him by name, but certainly by area and
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: by the knowledge he has, people would know about where
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: he's from. Mark, I just listened to your podcast involving
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: school perceptions and the manipulative involvement with school referendums. Let
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: me point you to the tip of the spear. His
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: name is Ben Nyhouse. He's the Wisconsin Association of School
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Board Director of Member Services. Ben was the Florence County
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Public School Superintendent from 2013 to 2021. Florence is a small, rural,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: poor county in far northeastern Wisconsin that actually was set
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to close due to several budget shortfalls. It really should
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: have combined itself with other small neighboring communities like Goodman, Niagara, Pembine,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: but pride and stubbornness kept it open. Ben left the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: effort to pass two referendums to fund both a massive
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: school renovation and several years later to fund ongoing operating costs.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Ben was in deep with school perceptions. who they were
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: literally up here campaigning to get referendums passed using confusing
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: messaging and manipulation of financial forecasts of costs, etc. Hence
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the reason for a follow-up referendum to pay operating costs.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Both barely passed, so we have no one to blame
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but ourselves, but the PR campaign was led by Ben
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and school perceptions was nauseating. In 2021, Ben landed a
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: job as the director of the Wisconsin Association of School Boards.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Quite the accomplishment from a rural superintendent who was just
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: several years earlier was just a school business teacher. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Ben wasn't shy to tell his friends that it was
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: his ability to get the referendum passed in a poor
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: place like Florence County that got him this job. Let
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: me interject. So in other words, the guy's crowing to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the Association of School Boards. I'm so good at raising taxes.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I went into a poor community and I got two referendums.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So therefore, I'm great to give guidance to all the
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: other school boards. So you see where the bias of
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the school board associations is from. It's to get tax
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: increases passed. That may be the goal of people who
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: work for the school districts, but the goal of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: job of the school boards is is to represent the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: overtaxed constituents, not the people who constantly want more working
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: within the public schools and then produce worse and worse education.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Back to the letter writing piece. And now, who Ben's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: working with to get online surveys to help school boards
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: identify their areas of strength and alignment, as well as
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: their further dialogue and discussion as needed? School perceptions, of course.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And then he provides a link. So the Association of
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: School Boards is recommending school perceptions. The director of member
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: services is the guy who worked with school perceptions to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: pass this thing up there in northern Wisconsin. So you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: see what school perceptions is. It's a lobbying arm to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: get referendums passed. So when you see a district hire
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: them saying that we're trying to ascertain community needs, understand
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: those school board members are lying through their teeth. They're
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: picking school perceptions because they want a firm that is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: very good at misleading and propagandizing. The guy then asked
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: me not to identify him by name, and I will not.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: He said that the guy from the Association of School
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Boards would certainly know who he is, and so on.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Mark Belling Podcast. This is the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Mark Belling Podcast. We're doing this podcast on Wednesday the 7th,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: for those of you that are listening later. This is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the three-year anniversary, therefore, of the Sunday morning, October 7th massacre.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Some thoughts on this. Imagine the unusualness of how this
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: issue played out. In the middle of the night, the
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Hamas government of Palestine invaded Israel and went out and
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: directly attacked not military or government installations, but charged across
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the southern countryside trying to find civilians to torture, rape,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: and kill. It was a mass act of terror because
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: all of the targets were individual citizens, particularly women and children.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: They killed babies. They raped women. They deliberately tried to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: maim people and then have them live in terrible pain
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and took massive numbers of hostages and brought them back.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It was a vicious act aimed at breaking the will
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: of the Israeli people. Who would have thought that three
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: years later, that attack would have resulted in and a
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: massive outpouring of pro-support for Palestinians, with people across the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: world flying Palestinian flags all the time. The fact of
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the matter is, is that from a PR standpoint, the
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: best thing that Hamas did when they killed all of
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: those women and children and committed all of those rapes
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: was it helped them rally support amongst people in our
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: world that hate Jews. The thing that did not work
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is that rather than break the will of the Israeli people,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the Israeli government set out to once and for all
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: solve this problem of the cretinous government of Hamas and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that the Palestinian people keep choosing monsters like
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Hamas and in the northern Hezbollah, terror groups that have
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: been bankrolled by Iran. But as Israel has attempted to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: finally address this constant problem, of their citizens being killed,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: it has been Israel that has been pilloried in America
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: by now the majority of the Democrat Party and a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: handful of members of the Republican Party. The only possible
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: explanation for Israel to become the bad guy after it
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: was so savagely attacked, after its citizens were so savagely attacked,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: can be anti-Semitism. When you see people singling out Israel
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: as the worst nation in the world, when you consider
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: the barbarism of some countries out there, it's got to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: be that religion. Let's move this discussion forward. The mass
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: immigration debacle. The key word that I just used there
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: was mass. I am pro-immigration. I am not pro-illegal immigration.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I'm pro-immigration. I believe that, generally speaking, we should encourage
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: people from other lands to come, in our case, to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: our country. We have been a melting pot, and we
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: are a nation of immigrants. It has been our strength.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I am against mass immigration. Because when you have mass immigration,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: you're not creating a process by which immigrants should assimilate.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: If the immigrant does not want to assimilate, they shouldn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: come in. If they don't want to come in to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: be Americans, they shouldn't come in. If they want to
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: come in and remain loyal to the nations that they
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: came from, And they want to come in and destroy
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the ways and the values and the lifestyles of the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: country that they're moving to. They are of no value
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: when they come in. Now, if we allowed people who
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: think like this to come in, in the kind of
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: numbers that we've allowed migrants to come in in the past,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't be that big of a deal because there
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be that many of them. Look at France right now.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: These images of the riots in France are striking. France,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: for those of you not aware, not surprisingly, is broke.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: They're literally broke. Their bonds are cratering. You think we've
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: got a problem with a bond route here in the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: United States? The French bonds are cratering. The only thing
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that they can do right now is they have to
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: cut their spending. Their deficit is finally at the point
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that they can't service their bonds. Bankrupt, their bonds becoming
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: worthless and their entire economy collapsing is the only alternative
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to not cutting spending. So they're cutting spending. And people
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: are rallying out in the streets, opposing this cutting spending
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: to the schools and so on. But if you look
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: at these images of people rallying in the street, and again,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they claim that they're objecting to budget cuts in education.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You see Palestinian flags everywhere. What does Palestine have to
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: do with budget cuts in France? Except the answer is,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of course, France has had massive migration from Muslim nations.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And these are among the people who move to countries
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: like France because the gravy train in the social welfare
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: system is much more generous than in the countries that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: they came from. So while out there bitching about supposed
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: budget cuts, their real issue, Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, they wave
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the flags around as they commit mass acts of violence,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: as they oppose the actions of a leftist government. that
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: is trying to do some cuts to save its economy.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I don't even know because it's so much fighting on there,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you can't even make out whose face is what. How
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: many of the people that are fighting are actually third
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and fourth and fifth generation Frenchmen as opposed to first
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and second generation Muslims who came into the country and
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: are now screaming and bitching that the gravy train that
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: they came in to get from France is being cut off.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You have all sorts of people coming not only to France,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: but to the United States for our benefits. But that's
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the only part of America they like. They want our benefits.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: They want our financial assistance. They want our health care.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: They want our schools. But they don't want our values.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: That's the problem with mass immigration that doesn't use what
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: we did in the past in which you hand out visas.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: For people that pursue citizenship, they have to take not
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: so much a loyalty oath, but a pledge of allegiance
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to the United States. And this is why immigration has
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: worked throughout our history. The people who came here wanted
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to be here. When we were fighting World War II,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the German and Italian immigrants who came to the United States,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: they supported us. They were distraught over who had taken
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: over their former country, Germany, and who had taken over
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: their former country, Italy. So many of the Muslim migrants
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: who have come into the United States are not supportive
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: of us. They hate us. Now, to Minnesota, there is
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: perhaps no more state, no other, maybe Michigan, that has
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: seen the problem of mass immigration from Muslim nations. Two
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: days ago, actually over the weekend, so there'll be more
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: than two, Gun-toting Somali gang members went into a football
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: game in Minneapolis and started shooting. Two people were wounded.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Somali gangs. Huge numbers of Somali migrants fled the hellhole
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: that was their country. And I grant, when they claim
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: refugee status, Somalia is a destitute country. There's no doubt
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: about that. But they come and they locate in large
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: groups and concentrate in certain areas. And Somalis in particular
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: have moved into Minneapolis and dominate certain areas. They see
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: the United States as a country of suckers. That's how
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: they see us. They look at all the social welfare
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: programs that we have and they say, hey, look how
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: easy it is to scam these things. And they scam them. Then,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the one thing that you can say about the Muslim
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: nations that they leave, those countries tend to be very
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: tough on crime. Hardline Islamic countries lock you up for
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: a long time. They still engage in physical violence for
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: people who rob and so on. So the ones who
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: leave who want to be crooks, they find that, hey,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I could be a crook here in the United States.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: If I go into a blue Democrat state, they'll let
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: me be a crook and not do anything about it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Somali gangs. It makes me reflect. There have been so
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: many movies glamorizing the Italian mob. Other mobsters as well,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: but in particular, mafia movies. I'm not going to say
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the mafia were good guys. I'm not going to say that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: But we've debated forever and ever and ever whether or
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: not we have been morally wrong in glorifying mobsters through
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: movies like The Godfathers, the TV shows like The Sopranos, etc.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: It's been debated. But with some exceptions, by and large,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: when the mob killed somebody, they were killing another mobster.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Or they were killing somebody from a rival mob organization.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Certainly they did scam and steal from law-abiding citizens. But
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the mafia in the United States did not have a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: significant history of just going up and finding somebody that
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: they weren't involved with at all and just killing them
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: for no reason. So many of the gangs post-mafia have
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: done that and they all just seem to be worse.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Following the mafia, there was the, in fact, they called
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: it the Russian mafia. The Russian mob came in and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they were said to be way more brutal than the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Italian mob. But even with the Russian mob, they were
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: engaged in theft and they would use violence to get
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: their ways. There's never been really that many stories of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: just a regular citizen walking down the street targeted by
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the Russian mob. Then it got worse with the Colombian
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: drug gangs. drug gangs in general have been more violent
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: simply because they're dealing with way, way, way more money.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Then the gangs in Central America, El Salvador, where they're
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: fleeing because El Salvador is very tough on crime. It's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why Trump wants to send illegal
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: immigrants who aren't from El Salvador back to El Salvador
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: because El Salvador doesn't mess around. and Nicaragua, groups like
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Trend de Aragua, that literally target law-abiding citizens, take over
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: entire communities, take over apartment complexes. Their victims aren't rival
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: members of gangs. Their victims, their targets are just regular
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: old Americans whose stuff they can just take away from them.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: All of this is a result of mass, unvetted immigration,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: legal and otherwise. Which brings us to the move toward
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Marxism and socialism in the United States. I will contend
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that the overwhelming majority of Muslims who have come to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the United States and hate the United States have made
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: an alliance of the Democrat Party and the left to
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: bring Marxism to our country. I'm going to take a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: moment here To quote from, this is actually a video
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: that Victor Davis Hanson did, his video podcast. I am
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: reading from an excerpted transcript. I'm not playing the entire
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: podcast because it would take 25 minutes. We're close to that.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I want to read some thoughts because I think he
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: just nails this linkage between Muslim extremists who hate America
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: and our own homegrown Marxists who hate America. As we
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: head toward the midterms in this last month of October,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: it's time to reflect on who are the leadership of
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: what we would call the democratic social Islamist new basis
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: or alliance with or absorption of the Democratic Party. We've
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: talked about one element. These are upscale people with college degrees, 85% white,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: in blue states, blue cities especially, who feel their social
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: science degrees, public policy degrees, psych degrees, should earn them
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a salary in which they could buy a home in
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: New York or a condo in Los Angeles or a
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: family in San Francisco. Or have a family in San Francisco.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: He's right about this. This is me now. A big
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: part of this move toward Marxism is these people that
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: have these high degrees in fields that have nowhere near
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: enough jobs for them. So these people have these high
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: degrees and they think, therefore, I should be able to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: live a great luxury lifestyle in New York, all these really,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: really expensive cities, even though they went and pursued degrees
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: in fields for which there aren't that many high-paying jobs.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Back to Hanson. And they rub shoulders with very wealthy people, financiers,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: insurance CEOs, and feel they're in the same echelon, yet
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they can't, given their student debt, and the decision they
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: made to major in those fields and then expect to
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: be highly marketable. That anger, that discouragement has fueled the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: rejection of the whole capitalist system. But they also have
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: a second group, and I call it the Islamist-ist element.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: What's funny about these people are most are first or
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: second generation immigrants. They came over here from failed states.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: They were welcomed by the left, And upon arrival, they
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: have a whole list of complaints against the United States,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and yet they have never been discriminated against, oppressed by
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: the United States. If anything, they came here for security, prosperity,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and freedom that was lacking in their own country. This
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: is an outstanding point. Let's just take a look at
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: two or three of these people as emblematic of this
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: new direction of the Democratic Party. New York City Mayor
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Zoran Mamdani gave a 4th of July address on her
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: 250th birthday. He had just reiterated, as he did last week,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that he would arrest, he thought, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: minister of Israel, any time he came into the United
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: States to visit the U.N., which is impossible because he's
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: given federal immunity. But it was a good bombastic campaign trope.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: But in this speech, he said that the United States
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: was victimized. As he said, Mamdani said, there was terror
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: in the streets. We were controlled by monopolies. It was
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: an unfair society run by elites. So we had a
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: whole writ of complaints. But Mamdani is a dual citizen,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: both of Uganda, where he was born, and of the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: United States, where he was naturalized. Does he ever have
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: any self-awareness of that? Because Uganda has been ruled by
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Yowari Museveni, a president who has been in power for
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: 40 years. He's a dictator. Did the Mamdani family ever
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: object to that? Does he object to it now? Now,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: this is just a brilliant point by Hansen. People have
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: come to the United States like Mamdani. Mamdani's a dual citizen.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: He's a citizen of Ghana, now a citizen of the
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: United States. Undeniably, the oppression in Uganda is worse than
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: anything he's bitching about here in the United States. Do
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: any of them ever complain about what was going on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: in Uganda or Somalia or any of the other places
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: they left? Back to Hanson. Well, you're going to say
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: he doesn't go back there.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, he does. He was married in Uganda just a
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: few months ago. And he was married at the family
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: estate with a beautiful view in Kampala of Lake Victoria.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: He's a very wealthy guy. His parents, his mother is
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a distinguished filmmaker. His dad's an endowed professor at Columbia.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: So when he says all of these things about genocide
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: and apartheid and settler colonialism, why doesn't he look at
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: his half-citizenship and say, I fought for egalitarianism in my
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: native Uganda, and I said to my Indian community, you're 1%.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and you're a settler colonialist, and you control 60%. We've
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: got to spread the wealth. Just like he said in
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: New York, we're going to go after richer, whiter neighborhoods.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Why doesn't he say that our Indian community lives in
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: self-appointed enclaves that are segregated? They're not segregated du jour,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: but they are de facto. Why doesn't he say, let's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: move out and integrate and assimilate to the indigenous people?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Does he ever say the Indian community in Uganda was
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: a British imperial project to keep the indigenous population back?
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Now again, let me interject. What Hansen's pointing out here
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: is that the segregation in Uganda and the elite in
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Uganda were protected from the populace far more than anything
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that goes on in the United States. The elite in
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Uganda who oppressed the great masses of that country That
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: situation is far worse there, but you never hear any
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: of these lefties who came from these countries ever say
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: a word about what was going on where they came from.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: They escaped these countries because of the things that they
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: felt were so terrible, come to the United States and
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: scream and bitch about things that are clearly less bad.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Back to Hanson. My point, he has a whole list
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: of characteristics about his adopted country, but he says nothing
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: using the same standards about his native country. So is
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: it a settler colonial country that you allege Israel is?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Is it an apartheid country you allege Israel is? Think
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: about it. He's not the only one. Hasan Piker was
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: born for a moment in the United States by Turkish
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: parents and went right back to Turkey where he was raised.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: His family is very, very wealthy. He's a multimillionaire. He
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: bought a $ 3 million home. That's a theme with this
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: group of Islamicists. And he drives a $ 200, 000 Porsche. He
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: has said that, I'm quoting literally, I hate the United States.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: And he said that we deserve, quote, 9-11. But you
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: would think that, and he won't really tell us whether
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: he is a dual citizen or not, but under Turkish law,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: under the jus sanguinis, that if you were born anywhere
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: to Turkish parents on both sides that you are a
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Turkish citizen, at least a dual citizen. Does he ever
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: criticize Turkey? in the way that he criticizes us. Under
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Recep Erdogan, it's become almost a dictatorship. Has he spoken
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: out against that? I don't think so, because his parents
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: have what sizable investment in corporate activity and profit-making in Turkey.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Has he ever said this? My country, my parents' country,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: my grandmother's country, my grandfather's country, went into Cyprus and
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: attacked it and planted a settler colonial movement to join
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the Turkish population and then appropriated 40% of the richest
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: part of Cyprus in 1974 and then colonized it with
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: additional colonialists from Turkey and no other country in the world,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: not China, not Russia, not North Korea, not Iran, recognized
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that colonial project. The point that he makes is in
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: its very recent history, Turkey... colonialized via invasion of Cyprus.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: These people that are bitching about the fact that the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: United States was a colonialized country 300 years ago seem
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: to be quiet about the fact that they came from
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: countries themselves that are colonizing right now. Can we have
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: one word about that? Can he say, I object to
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the American's history and that's why I hate the United States,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: but to be fair, I must say that when I
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: go back to Turkey, I'm going to tell them that
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: they have done a lot of bad things, such as
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the Armenian genocide in which one million Armenians were killed,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: mostly civilians, by the new Turkish army. Now, Hansen goes
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: on and uses a number of other examples. I'll move
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: to the end. What am I trying to say? I'm
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: trying to say that the socialist Islamist group has a
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: whole list of complaints about this country that we're supposed
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: to listen to, and a whole list of complaints about
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: the only democracy in the Middle East, Israel, that we're
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: supposed to listen to. But many of these fiercest critics
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: are dual citizens, and when they're in their other country,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: they say nothing about its sins. And there are plenty,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: from settler colonialism to genocide to apartheid to war crimes.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: but they do blast the democracies for those very sins.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: What's the whole point? We don't have to listen to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: this anymore. Anytime Mamdani, anytime Abdul El-Sayed, that's the candidate
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: for the Senate for Michigan, anytime Ilhan Omar, anytime Hassan
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Piker starts listing a list of grievances about their country,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: our first or second generation, we just say, look in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: the mirror and then talk to us. Now, my take
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: on this is, if you're looking for an explanation of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: why people who come to the United States from hellholes
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: then come to the United States and blast us for
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: being far less of a hellhole than they came from,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: it's because their loyalties, I think, are still with those
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: other countries, awful as they were. So how dumb are
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: we that we are going to vote for and empower
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: people people who say that they hate us and say
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: we're a terrible country. And the Marxist movement of the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party has aligned itself with this group. These are
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: the two factions that are turning together. Both factions hate
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the United States. The Islamists hate it for the reasons
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: we just described. And our homegrown Marxists hate it because
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I have all these college degrees, yet I can't afford
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: a house, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Let me
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: turn my attention briefly to the Cornell alleged rape case.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I've not really commented on this so far, and I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: want to make some brief comments about it. At the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: core of this is a debate over whether or not
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: a group of men in a fraternity who had sex,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: and apparently it was various types of sex. There's a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: debate about how much intercourse there was and how much
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: other activity. If a group of frat guys who had
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: sex with an admittedly intoxicated and drugged up woman who
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: consented in her intoxicated and drugged up state whether or
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: not that was rape. As far as it goes, it's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: a valid question. If a woman is really drunk or
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  Speaker 2: really drugged out and you have sex with her after
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  Speaker 2: she said, yeah, I want to have sex with you,
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  Speaker 2: is it rape because she was not in a position
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  Speaker 2: to give actual consent, that her verbal consent was altered
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  Speaker 2: by her drunked up or drugged up state? The people
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  Speaker 2: defending the victim and attacking Cornell and attacking prosecutors who
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  Speaker 2: didn't bring charges there are saying, yes, she can't consent.
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  Speaker 2: She was drunk. She was on drugs. I have found
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  Speaker 2: in my life that one of the great ways of
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  Speaker 2: understanding a dilemma like this is to, and my longtime
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  Speaker 2: listeners are now chiming in and yelling, reverse the situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's just an incredibly instructive way of figuring out life.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm reversing the situation because it really is reversible.
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  Speaker 2: Let's imagine a college student got really drunk and the
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  Speaker 2: drugs they were all using apparently was ketamine. Then a
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  Speaker 2: college guy wolfed down a lot of ketamine, and then
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  Speaker 2: drank a lot, or in the reverse, this woman apparently
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  Speaker 2: had nine shots before she went to the party. Let's
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  Speaker 2: imagine the guy had nine shots and then went to
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  Speaker 2: a party and he's popping down drugs. And he goes
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  Speaker 2: off with a bunch of women in the sorority. You've
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  Speaker 2: got a completely smashed, drugged out guy with six women
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  Speaker 2: in the sorority. And they say, hey, do you want
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  Speaker 2: to have sex with all of us? And he says, sure.
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  Speaker 2: He thinks he's at the home run. And three years later,
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  Speaker 2: he says they took advantage of him sexually should they
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  Speaker 2: be charged with sexual assault. I think people would find
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  Speaker 2: that laughable. So what's the difference? In the second case,
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  Speaker 2: he consented and he made the decision to drink the
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  Speaker 2: shots and he made the decision to throw down the ketamine.
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  Speaker 2: I believe the distinction, and it's so critical, is whether
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  Speaker 2: the drinking and drugging was consensual. Date rape is rape.
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  Speaker 2: These guys that slip something into a woman's drink and
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  Speaker 2: they black out and they have sex with them, they
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  Speaker 2: are rapists. In fact, I would argue that they may
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  Speaker 2: be even worse rapists than those who attack you on
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  Speaker 2: the street. I don't know. It should be the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'll edit myself and say that would be equivalent. Because
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  Speaker 2: you're taking away somebody's ability to consent, you're blacking them out.
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  Speaker 2: In the same way that if you black them out,
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  Speaker 2: you're stealing their credit cards or something, you then take
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  Speaker 2: sexual liberties with somebody who was never going to consent
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  Speaker 2: with you. But that's because you slipped it in the drink.
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  Speaker 2: If I go out and drink way too much and
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  Speaker 2: drive and kill someone, I can't say I'm not responsible.
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  Speaker 2: I was drunk. The problem was I was drunk. So
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  Speaker 2: if I go out and get incredibly drunk and have
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  Speaker 2: sex that I later regret, do I say it's their fault? No,
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  Speaker 2: it's my fault. I got so drunk, I didn't make
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  Speaker 2: good decisions. This woman, it seems to me, got so
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  Speaker 2: drunk and so drugged that she made a decision that
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  Speaker 2: seemed good at the time that she decides later she regrets.
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  Speaker 2: It was her decision. What we are doing right now
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  Speaker 2: is almost infantilizing women. We're saying that they're not responsible
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  Speaker 2: for anything. Kill your kids. Like Lindsay Clancy. Lindsay Clancy.
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  Speaker 2: If women demand true equality, that means that they have
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  Speaker 2: to be equally responsible for their decisions. Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: not an endorsement of a bunch of drunked-up frat guys
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  Speaker 2: who all bop out a woman. Not. The question is
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  Speaker 2: whether or not it is a crime of rape, which
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  Speaker 2: it seems to me that it is not. If you consent,
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  Speaker 2: and if you consent... whether completely sober or all messed
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  Speaker 2: up because you got yourself messed up, it seems to
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  Speaker 2: me that it's still consent. You're listening to the Mark
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  Speaker 2: Belling Podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. Now, we're
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  Speaker 2: doing this podcast on Wednesday afternoon. The Milwaukee Brewers last
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  Speaker 2: night lost in San Diego. If all three games in
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  Speaker 2: four to three, Yeah, the first one was 3-2, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: They've all been one-run games, which shows how dead even
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  Speaker 2: this series is. I just remain, as many of you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was pessimistic about this series, and the first place
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  Speaker 2: I felt San Diego was right now the best team
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  Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, and we're catching the worst team
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  Speaker 2: at the worst, the best team at the worst possible time.
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  Speaker 2: The Brewers, I think, probably should not have won those
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  Speaker 2: first two games. You can make the case that maybe
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  Speaker 2: they should have won Game three, in assessing where the series,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and let me talk about game three. The brilliant San
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  Speaker 2: Diego closer, Mason Miller, who blew the Sunday game, was
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  Speaker 2: not available last night. San Diego's manager, he made a
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  Speaker 2: bold decision. He took his best starting pitcher, Michael King,
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  Speaker 2: and he had him pitch the last two innings last night,
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  Speaker 2: and it worked. It's a one-run game, and San Diego
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  Speaker 2: shut out the Brewers the last two innings. They used
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  Speaker 2: their game one starter and the ace of their staff,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: That starter, Michael King, actually outpitched Jacob Mizorowski in game one.
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  Speaker 2: It was the later innings and the relievers that determined
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  Speaker 2: the fate of the game. So he used Michael King
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  Speaker 2: to pitch the last two innings of the game. This
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  Speaker 2: may work out for San Diego because King did this
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  Speaker 2: on two days rest and he will have two days
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  Speaker 2: rest before game five. I think that they will still
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  Speaker 2: have him start in game five if it gets to
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  Speaker 2: game five. Whatever hear the pitching coaches say that the
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  Speaker 2: day the pitchers do the throwing is right in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of their two starts, that they'll have them throw
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  Speaker 2: two days after their last start and two days before
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  Speaker 2: the next start. So you could argue that the two
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  Speaker 2: innings that King threw is the same two innings that
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  Speaker 2: he would have been throwing in the bullpen to keep
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  Speaker 2: his arms somewhat fresh. So it's possible that San Diego
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  Speaker 2: has figured out a way to be able to use
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  Speaker 2: Michael King three times, start game one, close game three,
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  Speaker 2: and then start game five. I also, I just think
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  Speaker 2: the pitching matchup in game five of Michael King versus
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  Speaker 2: Mizorowski is not a good one for us. Mizorowski is
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  Speaker 2: not the same Mizorowski as he was earlier in the year. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I think game one is a problem once he was
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  Speaker 2: too hyped up. He thrived all year with great control,
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  Speaker 2: and everything just seemed to be low, and he was overthrowing.
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  Speaker 2: He was still dominant and fast, but he wasn't hitting
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  Speaker 2: his spots and was overthrowing, and I think that might
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  Speaker 2: be an example of a tired arm that you're putting
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  Speaker 2: extra effort into your throw because the arm is a
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: little bit tired. I worry about Game 5. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers' best chance of winning this series is Game 4,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: which is tonight. Now, if you're listening to this on Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be a moot point, obviously. But
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers, I think, have a very good matchup tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Robert Gosser's going for the Brewers. He closed the season
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  Speaker 2: in the best form he's had this season. And the
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  Speaker 2: Padre pitcher, now they may change this, but maybe Jason knows,
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  Speaker 2: the last I saw it was Walker Bueller, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Walker Bueller was a great pitcher for the Dodgers a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago, but he went to Boston and he
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  Speaker 2: was terrible and he wasn't that good for San Diego
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  Speaker 2: this year. And he was really poor down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that Easiest way to win one
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  Speaker 2: of these games is to, and it hasn't happened for
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  Speaker 2: either team yet. None of the teams in this series
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  Speaker 2: so far has had the four or five run inning,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: kind of the knockout inning. The Brewers have specialized in that.
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  Speaker 2: The number of games the Brewers have won five to
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  Speaker 2: two in which all five runs came in the same
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  Speaker 2: inning and your best chance of doing it is against
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  Speaker 2: the starter. So I think they've got a good, both
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: bullpens are elite and neither bullpen is I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 2: a guy gives up a run. That's it. That's been
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: the worst performance by a reliever on any of the teams.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: By the way, is Mason Miller out for the series?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: They just withhold him last night. Do you know? Jason
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: does not know. Jason is just generally disgusted that the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Cubs aren't playing in October, a month that... You Cub fans,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: you just tear that month out of your calendar. That
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: was the joke I always used to tell about the Bears.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: There is no January for the Bears, but I can't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: say that anymore. Anyway... So I think the Brewers' best
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  Speaker 2: chance maybe tonight if they don't win and they have
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  Speaker 2: to come back to Milwaukee for game five on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: that will be very, very scary. But just this is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: so far been a dead even series. And by the way,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: all three games with quirky, weird things happening in them.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: One other thing about the Brewers, I mean, all year
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: their fielding was just so sound and it's not been
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: sound in this series. And I don't know, you know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Pratt made a bad throw to first base. Admittedly, there
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: was a base runner that was jumping over the ball
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: and obscured his vision, and Jake Bowers couldn't pick the
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  Speaker 2: ball out of the ground, and Jake picks everything out
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  Speaker 2: of the ground. There's just no margin for error when
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  Speaker 2: you play a team that is equally as good as you,
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  Speaker 2: so hopefully the Brewers figure out a way to, if
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  Speaker 2: not win tonight, win game five. That's it for our podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that the Thursday podcast, the one that we release
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow if you're listening to this one on Wednesday, this
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  Speaker 2: will include our weekly football preview and our point spread picks.
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  Speaker 2: Talk to you then. Bye.
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