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Lessons - The Neuroscientist Who Cured His Daughter's Autoimmune Disease by Rewiring Her Brain | Dr. Don Wood - Creator of the TIPP Method · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  In this lessons episode, discover how addressing the root causes of trauma may differ from simply managing its symptoms.
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  Understand how education and nervous system awareness can reshape responses to past experiences.
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  Explore why unresolved trauma can compound over time and uncover how building resilience can create lasting emotional change.
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  So...
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  Talk about TIP.
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  Talk about the actual program, how you deploy it, but also maybe contrast it to traditional therapy.
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  Okay.
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  I think that's interesting because I think a lot of people, the way they would solve for a lot of these experiences right now would be traditional therapy because I know that you condense a lot of this into a four-hour window.
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  That's your ideal optimal experience.
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  set up.
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  Why is a four-hour window important?
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  What do you do in that four-hour window versus therapy, which is an hour per week, I would assume.
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  A week, per month, whatever.
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  Yep.
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  So let's walk through the actual program so people understand why it's structured the way it is.
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  Because I know there's a lot of...
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  thought behind the four hour.
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  A lot of science.
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  Why you got it?
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  Yes.
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  Yep.
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  Let's go into it.
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  So that was really what I did is I looked at it and I said, okay, if somebody comes in and they say to me, I have anxiety, I say, that's the symptom of the problem.
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  Why not look at what caused this anxiety?
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  There's a something that happened.
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  There's a root cause to it.
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  So if we get to the root cause, you won't have anxiety.
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  Anxiety is just a symptom.
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  But they treat the symptom in traditional, like, are we going to treat your anxiety by giving you anti-anxiety medications?
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  So they're trying to chemically change the brain.
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  And remember I talked about the trauma loop.
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  So our minds are constantly to make it simple, doing Google searches all the time, pulling up files.
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  What do we know about this experience?
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  What the medication is doing is blocking the Google search.
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  It's not fixing the problem.
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  So the problem is still there, but you're sort of numbed out.
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  And so, and then traditional talk therapy, which I'm not saying is bad, traditional talk therapy will want to say, well, what do you, how does it make you feel?
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  What do you think about?
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  Well, I think you keep reinforcing it.
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  And then you're only in there for an hour.
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  So if you're in there for an hour,
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  chances are you're going to be in a high beta brainwave state because you're coming in to talk about, let's take a stream.
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  They rehash all the memories.
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  All the memories.
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  So they're in high beta talking to their therapist about a high beta event.
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  And so how much work are you going to get done if you're in the same state that you experience the event in?
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  Not a lot, maybe a little bit.
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  That's why traditional therapy takes a long time because you're sort of getting little pieces trying to get that done.
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  What I do, and the reason I use four hours...
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  is in the first two hours, it's almost what we're doing here.
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  It's education and science.
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  I tell you how I developed it.
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  The first thing I say to everybody when they come in, there's nothing wrong with you, and there's nothing wrong with your mind.
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  Your mind is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, is protect you.
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  It's dealing with some glitches and error messages.
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  So think of the brain, the physical brain, as the computer.
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  The mind is the software.
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  If I drop the computer, the computer is going to get damaged.
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  If I hit my brain, I'm going to get a concussion.
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  I'm going to get it damaged.
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  Software is prone to glitches and error messages.
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  Of course.
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  And you get a virus.
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  Yeah.
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  So what do we do when we have a glitch in software?
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  We reboot the software.
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  We recode the software.
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  Right?
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  We don't try to throw the software out or say we got bad software.
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  All we have to do is reset it.
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  So I always talk about if you, every time you hit the M key on your computer, your computer shut off.
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  So if you took your computer to your computer therapist, your computer therapist would say, don't touch the M key.
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  Stay away from words with M's in them.
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  What's wrong with you?
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  It's going to activate.
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  They'll say trigger.
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  I never use the word trigger.
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  I say activate.
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  Why not?
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  I thought it sounded negative and violent.
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  So when people come in and say, oh, this triggers me, and I'm saying, the first thing I think of is a gun and somebody firing.
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  Yeah, I guess, yeah.
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  And so what I say is try to remove the gun analogies from a mental health environment.
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  Yeah, not a bad idea.
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  I say it's activating your nervous system.
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  Why would it activate it?
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  Because it perceives a threat.
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  So it's supposed to do that.
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  That's why I say there's nothing wrong with you.
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  If a lion shows up here, we're supposed to
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  If we think about a lion, we're not supposed to be activated.
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  Why would we get activated if we thought about a lion?
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  Because we got attacked by a lion.
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  And the mind starts looking at the resource, what do we know about lions?
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  And then it starts to see the old information in real time.
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  And that's the movie analogy I was talking about.
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  Your mind thinks something's happening.
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  So if your mind thought something was happening, doesn't it make sense it would activate?
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  Of course.
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  It has to.
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  So there's nothing wrong with you, but they'll tell you anxiety, depression, panic attacks, oh, there's something wrong.
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  You've got a mental health issue.
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  No, your system is doing exactly what it's designed to do.
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  It's reading old information.
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  So the way that you structure the... And then you actually set up like...
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  So I know the way that you help people and the way that you work with people, there's sort of two different formats.
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  You have like a personal four-hour session, which is like the highest touch, but then you can also...
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  do this in groups or online to a degree as well.
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  So you've, you've developed systems for both, but obviously all based on the same fundamentals.
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  It's exactly the same program.
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  So if you come and see me one-on-one, I take you through the program, you know, people say, well, what's the difference between that and the digital version?
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  Like just watching through the digital, like on your own.
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  I said, it's a book and the movie.
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  Yeah.
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  If you read the book and then watched the movie, you'd go, ah, the book was a lot better because I got a lot more out of the book.
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  But if you just watch the movie, the movie works.
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  It takes you through the same thing.
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  It's just not me telling you personally, but it's me doing the exact same thing, but just on video.
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  Is there, is this something like this, this process, is this something that would be healthy to do periodically?
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  You can refresh, but once we get the bulk of the work done, unless there's new stuff coming up, chances are you wouldn't really need to do it.
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  Plus, we've given you the tools, right, that you could continue to use.
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  Is there, and even going forward, is there a way to, like, harden yourself so that you don't have some of these things imprint on you?
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  Or is that a very difficult thing to do?
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  Well, trauma's going to affect us no matter what.
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  Yeah.
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  But here's the advantage.
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  If you have...
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  old trauma, think of it, you're carrying around 150 pound backpack.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  And then somebody goes, here's another 10 pounds.
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  That just can, can bring you to your knee.
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  Yeah.
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  But if you get the 150 pound backpack off you and another 10 pounds comes at you.
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  You've got a lot more resilience now.
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  You'll be able to probably work through it.
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  That's the biggest problem.
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  So many people come through and they have all of this childhood trauma, and then they get hit as an adult again, and then all of a sudden they're just taken down.
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  People say, oh, I guess that event.
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  I worked with a person from the Boston Marathon.
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  I worked with a few of them, Boston Marathon bombing.
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  And what she said to me, she goes, I thought I came in here because of the Boston Marathon bombing.
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  She goes, that's obviously the big one.
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  She goes, I'm in post-traumatic stress.
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  I'm having terror nightmares.
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  She says, my childhood trauma, I had no idea was that impactful on me.
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  She goes, I got more out of the childhood trauma than I did out of the Boston Marathon bombing.
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  trauma, right?
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  It was more impactful for me.
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  So the Boston Marathon is another 50 pounds just packed onto her 150 pounds that she'd been carrying, right?
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  So once we got the 150 pounds off, right, it was easier to deal, well, not easier.
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  I mean, it's going to be a lot simpler to deal with that 50 pound Boston Marathon.
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  So she came in with a whole bunch of other trauma and then that one happens, right?
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  then all of a sudden the system, it's an overwhelm.
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  But even if you don't remember everything that happened to you, the way that you structured this, and like, I'm not well-versed in therapy, so I'm sure that traditional therapy tries to get into this as well, but the system that you've structured, it can pull out things that you weren't
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  really conscious of.
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  Yeah.
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  Even aware of.
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  So, to go back to the four hours, so the first two hours, I don't ask you a thing about trauma.
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  I just educate you and say, here's how your brain works.
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  Here's how the brain waves work, beta, alpha, theta, delta.
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  Here's how the mind is going to process, right?
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  So, you get all the science.
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  And that's actually so helpful because what I hear constantly is it's like click, click.
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  You're connecting all that.
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  Now I'm getting it.
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  Of course this would happen to me.
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  How could it not happen to me?
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  And so if people come in and they say, I have this and this and this, and I go, well, there's a reason why.
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  I never had your life experience.
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  If I had had your life experience, I'd be right where you are.
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  I'm not specially unique, right?
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  I just had a special unique childhood.
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  that allowed me to do that.
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  Then the next hour, we're going to get into some specific events.
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  So I'm looking for basically three events.
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  So I'll say, can you tell me about three different events that you had?
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  But I'm looking for, if that event was made into a movie, I'm looking for the movie trailer.
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  I want the minute, two-minute recap of it.
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  And I don't need you to talk about it.
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  I don't even need you to tell me about it.
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  I can actually get your mind to clear it without knowing one word.
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  And people say, I don't have to talk about it.
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  So that's how when I do the groups, I could have 25 people in a room all going through their own personal trauma event and nobody's sharing it.
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  The techniques I take them through does the clearing.
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  Because they're discovering it in their own head.
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  In their own head.
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  They're seeing it.
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  How does it help them for me to know that?
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  It doesn't.
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  No.
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  There's only curiosity on my part because their mind is going to fix it.
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  Right?
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  I'm not fixing it.
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  Their own system is fixing it.
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  So if you came in with a broken leg and we reset your leg, how much credit should I get for that healing?
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  I just reset it.
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  You reset it, but the body did its own thing.
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  Did its own thing.
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  Yeah.
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  It's the same thing with this.
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  I don't take the credit.
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  Your mind is going to do it.
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  The reason it hasn't been able to do it is because you didn't understand why it was doing it.
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  Once I educate you, you can see how this can work.
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  It's so simple.
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  You don't need to live and manage and cope with it.
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  Fix it.
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  So this all makes a lot of sense.
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  There's probably a lot that's broken with the traditional...
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  way of fixing things.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like a lot of people are not going to like you that much.
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  That's okay.
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  Well, we get two camps.
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  Some people that go, that's nonsense.
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  You can't do it that fast.
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  But we got the evidence, right?
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  Well, that's actually how we connected because somebody's doing the studies.
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  Yeah, we're going to publish the study.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So I had, here's a good example.
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  I had one lady, a therapist who saw the kind of work I was doing.
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  She was referring, she referred me the ones that she knew would take her a long time.
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  So she says, I've got a lady that you, I think you're going to be the only one that can help her.
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  Can you, can she come and see you?
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  Can you get it right?
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  She had a 60s lady, had a home invasion, got pistol whipped, having panic attacks, can't even get out of her house.
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  And she says, if we can get her to you, can you see her right away?
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  So I said, OK.
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  So she comes in.
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  And as soon as she walks in the door, actually, it was my wife that was there that day.
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  And she just breaks down crying.
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  She's sobbing.
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  And she's walking with a walker.
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  And so she comes in, I take her through the whole program and it was like life changing for her.
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  And so this was on a Tuesday.
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  She goes back to see the therapist on her therapist on Friday.
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  And her therapist calls me after the session, right?
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  And so she says, I just saw her.
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  And I said, she's doing pretty good, right?
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  And she goes, oh, yeah.
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  She's doing pretty good.
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  She goes, I knew it would, right?
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  She says, but when she came in to my office, she says, I have good news and bad news.
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  And so the therapist, she goes, well, the good news is you're not walking with a walker.
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  She goes, no, I don't need the walker.
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  She goes, the bad news is you're fired.
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  I'm coming back.
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  And she says, but I was happy for her.
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  But that should be the way that the health and wellness and medical system works.
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  But it's not how the system works at all.
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  But this therapist was thrilled.
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  She was a true, caring person.
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  And she knew that this was the fastest way to get her there.
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