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Trent & Ken reunite, Vegas & B1G Thoughts, Mike Palm from Circa Sports joins · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Good afternoon and welcome in Miller and Condon on the air
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  with you live from Big 10 football Media days as we talk
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  the world of sports with you. We got Kirk Ference coming up
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  later today. We'll hear from the Iowa
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  football players that are here. Also a little bit later on,
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  we're going to be talking with Spencer McLaughlin, locked down
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  college football and a whole a lot more.
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  But we come to you from the Mandalay Bay, a little different
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  look than we've had the last couple of days as we were at
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  Circuit Stadium swim now a little more buttoned up.
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  The fun is over. Now it's time to work, but we
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  kick things off with Andy Staples on three Media.
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  He's been all over the place. Great podcast and a great
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  college football scribe as we talked some college football to
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  kick things off. Andy, good to see you.
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  It's been a while a I think I last time I we met in person was
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  probably like 6-7 years ago. So good to see you again.
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  Well, how I was invited to to stadium swim.
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  I mean, come on, I've been over here.
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  That that's my bad. Yeah, this is.
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  So much better. That you got to hang out with PJ
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  Fleck yesterday. We did.
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  It was funny because he was actually sitting right here at
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  this table talking to somebody and we were talking about, we
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  were recording a segment on our show talking about something
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  he'd said on the stage. And I'm sitting there going, OK,
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  I, I'm going to have to be as loud as I normally am on the air
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  and he's going to hear us. And this is going to get, this
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  might get weird, but fortunately my, my Co host Ari Wasserman,
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  just as PJ got up and started walking away, he's like, PJ, PJ
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  come here. And so we just got PJ into the
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  conversation, which was great because I, I think it's so
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  interesting with PJ Fleck because he drives people insane,
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  especially fans of rival programs, especially fans of, of
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  a rival program that might be playing against him for a pig
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  trophy. And so, but here's the thing, he
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  is that guy. Like that's not fake.
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  That is exactly who he is 1,000,000% of the time.
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  And I just thought it was funny because we were doing a segment
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  about PJ Fleck was yelling at us from the stage, and Mike Norvell
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  at ACC Media Days in Charlotte was also yelling at everybody
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  from the stage. But the difference is that's not
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  Mike Norvell's personality, but that is PJ Fleck.
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  And so, you know, we we come back from the clip and I'm just,
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  I, I did the why are we yelling? Why is everyone yelling?
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  And PJ just kind of turns like, what?
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  What are we doing now? It's like, yeah, yeah, we're
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  talking about you. Sorry.
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  You're the guy, so he bothers me now.
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  I grew up an Iowa fan, of course, so, but it's also good
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  to have that rivalry back. So I grew up in North Iowa and
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  it's interesting in our state. Do you have to choose a side?
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  Well, I mean as long. As I'm on the right side of the
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  border, yeah, we're other yeah, we're all good and family in
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  Minneapolis had cousins that went to Minnesota.
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  So you know, I have all that background, but I was so
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  interested you're. Wearing a Minnesota North Star.
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  I am, and I'm a Minnesota sports fan.
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  I'm a Twins fan. I'm a Timberwolves fan.
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  I'm but I'm a Bears fan. That's a long story.
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  Kindergarten 85. You know, that's what Swayze.
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  I I I was at Monday Night Football when the Dolphins beat
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  the Bears. I was seven years old.
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  First time I ever smelled marijuana.
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  And smelled a few times I'm sure after that too.
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  So the Minnesota rivalry is my favorite rivalry for you on a
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  national scale. You think of Iowa and we got
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  Black Friday against Nebraska. Of course the side hawk game and
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  non conference Minnesota. Wisconsin's turned into a
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  tremendous rivalry the last 30 years.
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  If you live in the Quad Cities, it's Illinois.
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  And for people where we originate from is in central
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  Iowa, it's all Iowa, Iowa State. And I tell people that don't
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  know outside of that part, it depends on it.
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  So on a national scale, when you think of that Iowa rivalry, what
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  is the one that jumps to mind for you first?
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  It would probably be Minnesota just because of the history of
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  it. I, I, you know, I'm, I'm a bit
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  of a history buff. So you, you think about because
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  Minnesota, I, I don't think the casual college football fan
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  understands their place in the very way back history of the
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  game because they were, they were a powerhouse very early on.
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  But I, I think that's because you have to border states.
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  But I thought when Nebraska joined the league, that was one
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  of those things where it felt like they'd been annual rivals
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  for 100 years. And it, but it it it was, it was
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  new. But I, I, you know, I covered a
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  few of those Black Friday games. The one last year was really
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  dramatic. I mean, so I, that one I think
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  is, has become my favorite of their rivalry games just because
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  it's always weird. Yeah.
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  And I will find a way. Yeah, almost every single time,
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  including last year with Caleb Johnson.
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  I thought they were done like. Yeah.
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  Start of the fourth quarter, I was like, there's no chance.
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  And, and so I'm watching that simultaneously that with that
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  crazy 8 overtime Georgia Tech game, that's a hell of Black
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  Friday. Let's have a good one again this
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  year. Andy Staples joining us here at
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  Miller and Con as we kick things off from Big 10 Football Media
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  Days. Andy, as we're here at Big 10
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  Media Days, the biggest conversation starting on Tuesday
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  was Tony Battitti talking about the playoff format.
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  Now, I come from the background, grew up a Hawkeye fan, and I try
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  to play it down the middle on the air.
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  But still, that's always a part of me, right?
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  That's always going to be there. When I look at the model, the
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  4422111 for Iowa, for Purdue, for Nebraska, for Minnesota, for
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  Wisconsin, for everybody else outside of the blue bloods, this
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  is a great model. And then when I think about.
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  What's the different like here? Let me I want to push.
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  Back on that, yeah. Because the 511 one I think is
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  also good for Iowa and not Purdue, but but Iowa, Nebraska,
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  Minnesota, Wisconsin, Yeah. Because the middle tier, yeah.
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  If you are capable of of competing and being in the mix
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  to be the 6th best team in this version of the Big 10, the 18
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  team Big 10, you're also capable of making a 16 team playoff with
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  11 at largest. It's it's not that different.
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  You just one has this artificial play in game at the end and one
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  doesn't. But The thing is it because
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  somebody asked me when PJ Fleck did his, his contract extension
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  next last week and he's he's extended till 2030.
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  They're like, OK, what's success there?
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  Like one playoff appearance like you, you make the playoff
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  between now and then. That's that's what you're paying
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  for. And like Iowa, I'd say, I think
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  actually Iowa and Nebraska, if Wisconsin could get back to what
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  they were, it's more than that. You're you're going to, you're
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  probably going to the playoff twice every 10 years in in any
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  either of the 16 team playbacks. I just look at it as it's
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  something attainable, like we were talking yesterday, in the
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  next two decades, how many times is Iowa going to play in the Big
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  10 Championship as it's currently constructed?
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  Once. Maybe.
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  Maybe in 20 years. Yeah, 'cause I'm trying to think
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  that 2015 Iowa team that would have been the type that that
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  would have. Been 2009, 2002, but that was
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  also a different era, right? We didn't have the four West
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  Coast schools. I think both Ohio State and
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  Michigan have elevated even from what they were at that time.
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  So the reality is it's something attainable.
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  But being the 4th or 5th best team in the Big 10, which will
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  get you into the playoffs. It'll still get you.
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  In either of those either of those formats, that is certainly
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  attainable. Yeah, Maybe I think of it this
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  way. And what I saw last year from
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  South Carolina for at a national landscape, you kind of look at
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  the totality of what they did. Their resume wasn't good.
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  Saw what happened to Illinois. They weren't even part of
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  conversation at 9:00 and 3:00. And that year that Iowa is 9 and
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  three, the year that I think. There's a universe this year
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  where where Iowa and Nebraska could be for a playoff berth
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  depending on how things go, 'cause I actually the Iowa, Iowa
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  and Texas A&M for me are the two teams that if you look at their
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  schedules, they are a trap game for multiple, multiple teams.
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  And, and if they win some of those games, they're going to be
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  in the mix for playoffs. Ten and two with the schedule
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  they have and it's crazy. 10 and 2 they are in.
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  Well, there's no question. You brought up 2015.
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  They didn't play Ohio State, they didn't play Michigan.
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  And what, all season long they were ripped because of that.
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  They don't play Ohio State or Michigan this year.
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  It's OK, they play. Oregon and Penn State, they
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  play. Oregon, Penn State, Indiana,
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  Iowa State, all those teams win double digit games last year.
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  Plus they have to go to Wisconsin.
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  Plus they got to play for the Pigs.
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  Plus, they got to play Brad Friday against Nebraska.
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  The the side hawk game has become a a really fun one and I
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  think I think Matt Campbell does a phenomenal job.
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  So I, I'm, I'm excited to see that night.
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  I, I like that. That means so much now.
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  And I, I Rocco Beck, Mark Gronowski early in the season.
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  I'll take it. Yes, you're a Gronowski guy.
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  So I. Am excited about this.
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  It's so interesting because you know, the regional people that
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  we have on the Big 10 people that we have on, it feels like
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  there's more tepidation kind of in that regional, but national
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  guys like you feel like. Because he was really good at
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  South Dakota State. What?
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  He's big, he's physical, he's. Dynamic.
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  He's athletic. I was talking to Tom Caker just
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  now and and he, he the comp he gave me was Riley Leonard.
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  I think he may have a better arm than Ryan.
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  I think so, too. So, yeah.
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  And they might not be as fast. But the The thing is that, you
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  know, with Iowa, the last truly competent quarterback play Iowa
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  got was CJ Beathard. And CJ Beathard's better athlete
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  than people realize. Oh, absolutely.
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  And so I think you take this and this guy's a better athlete than
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  CJ Beathard. I think, you know, you go back
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  to Brad Banks and then what he could do competent quarterback
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  play where you're going to have a good offensive line, you're
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  going to have a decent running game, that's you're going to
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  have a defense that that stops people.
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  You're going to have great special teams.
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  I mean, come on, that's all you have to do.
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  And are they going to, Is it going to make them capable of
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  beating Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State?
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  Like every time they play? No, right.
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  Does it make them capable of beating one of those teams every
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  once in a while? Yep.
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  Sure does. And that gap that kind of grown
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  over the last five years just because how bad the offense got,
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  it feels like it's coming back the the other way.
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  And that's the thing, like I just, I always felt so, so bad
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  for Phil Parker and for for Woods and, and those guys that,
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  I mean, they're, they're so good at their jobs and they had to
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  carry this abysmal offense every year.
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  And now if, if it can just be average, that's a team that can
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  make the playoff a lot of years. Yeah, with that defense, that
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  special teams and an average offense.
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  It's an exciting time. Now you're at Big 12 football
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  Media Days as well. Let's talk a little bit just
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  with the Big 12 in general, and I don't know what it is and
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  maybe it's just last season. What, the Arizona State coming
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  out of nowhere and doing what they did.
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  I can't wrap my arms around any of the top teams.
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  I can't looking at the betting markets, I can't.
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  Kansas State, Avery Johnson. Yeah, there's flashes.
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  I I, I will tell you, the coaches, if you ask them, they
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  love Kansas State, do that. They a lot of it's respect for
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  Chris Kleiman and having, you know, having played him
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  understanding exactly. Yeah.
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  But I mean, he develops people really well.
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  They're always good on the line of scrimmage.
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  So I think that's part of it. But it's going to be what
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  mishmash of everything because I think there's eight teams you
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  can make a very valid case for. Texas Tech is the one
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  everybody's watching because they spent so much on their
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  roster. And it is probably the best
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  roster on paper in the league. But like, TCU is significantly
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  better this year. Baylor should be pretty good
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  this year. Baylor is one of the toughest
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  teams to to beat the Big 12 at the end of last season. 6 in a
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  row, Arizona State brings Sam Levitt back.
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  Sam Levitt is is probably the best quarterback in a deep
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  quarterback. League, that league is.
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  Great for Avery Johnson, you mentioned in Kansas State.
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  I think he's interesting because I remember watching him as a
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  freshman and they would bring him in as a kind of a change of
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  pace with Will Howard. He was so fast.
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  And so I was thinking, OK, are we dealing with like a Lamar
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  Jackson type because he's that fast?
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  And he didn't look that fast last year because a lot of it
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  and it felt like a lot of it was kind of processing stuff and
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  like the BYU gave me through some terrible interceptions.
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  But what if he makes a jump year one to year 2?
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  That's that's where guys do. I mean, you know, like the LSU
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  with the Joe Burrow and Jayden Daniels.
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  Like if you come to me after 2018 Joe Burrow or after 2022
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  Jayden Daniels, I'm like, OK, they're fine.
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  Yeah, but not what they were gonna.
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  Be Yeah, they're OK. Yeah.
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  And Rocco Beck is more than OK. Yep.
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  I'm just surprised that Iowa State is that far behind.
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  And the betting? Those two receivers, that's,
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  yeah, that's really all because they were both really good.
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  That's the thing though, Campbell and that crew, they
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  have done such a great job of getting those transfer guys.
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  So they bring in Seoul, they bring in the kid from UCF,
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  Townsend. They think that they fix it.
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  But you're right. Jalen Knoll last year won the
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  Iowa game for him without. They don't win that game.
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  They probably get blown out without him on the field.
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  He and that that was not a series where the receipt where
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  any receivers usually made a huge difference.
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  So the the Central Florida game, I don't think they win that game
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  without it. That is a huge and and you'd
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  said two guys, two of those guys.
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  So I guess that's the knock Defensively, they're always
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  going to be good with Haycock. I mean, that guy's just an
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  absolute Wizard of what he does, and we got a couple of good.
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  Everybody's stealing. Everybody's stealing his and his
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  base defense and and putting their own spin on it.
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  I, I was wondering if that was going to hurt them defensively
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  just because they're no, they're not really a change up.
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  Everybody's seeing a version of the Haycock defense now,
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  especially in that league, but it hasn't stopped them from
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  being good. So it's it's it's pretty
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  impressive. But I talked to Campbell a
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  couple weeks ago. He's he's very confident.
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  They did I the the revenue share thing for a place like Iowa
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  State, I think it's huge because it would be very hard in the in
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  the system that was 2021 to 25 to keep really good players at
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  Iowa State. I mean, you have to, you have to
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  work really hard to raise the money.
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  Now you have the money to keep the people you want to keep.
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  You probably can't go out and and big, you know, spend huge in
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  free agency. Can't be taxes.
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  But that's not really what you what you do, right?
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  That's not Matt Campbell style anyway.
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  So I, I told him, I, I said when I was talking to him, I was
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  like, I'll take you with, you know, $12 million from the
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  school over somebody with a $30 million budget because I over
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  all over most people because he evaluates so well.
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  Do you have a dark horse in the Big 12?
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  I mean outside of that top 6/7. I don't even know if it's a
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  dark, I don't think you'd call anybody a dark horse because I,
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  I think it's going to be Utah, but Utah is one of those that's
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  just kind of generally accepted as pretty good.
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  They have two NFL offensive tackles, Spencer Finno, their
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  right tackle is probably going to be the the first alignment
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  off the board. And then you've got Lomu as the
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  left tackle. He's very good too.
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  So I, I don't know if he's been first rounder, but but a very
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  high draft pick and they're built on the line of scrimmage
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  to win the old PAC 12. So they were built and these
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  guys were recruited. All their older guys were
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  recruited to play in the PAC 12, to win a league that had Oregon
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  and Washington and USC in it. Nobody else in the Big 12 is
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  built that way. Yeah.
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  And so they bring in a quarterback named Devin Dampier
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  from New Mexico, who was a phenomenal runner last year,
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  1100 yards rushing. He's not the best thrower in the
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  world. And and the one the guy I would
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  compare it to is remember Nick Marshall at Auburn?
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  Oh, yeah, absolutely. Took him to the national title
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  game in 2013. Played a great game up in
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  Manhattan, KS, I think on a Thursday night the next next
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  year. But Nick wound up playing
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  cornerback in the NFL. He was not a great throw like
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  the year the year he got done. They had a couple receivers who
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  were NFL prospects on their pro day.
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  They had Aga, who had played for Gus at Arkansas State, throw
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  throw to them because Nick, they didn't want Nick Marshall
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  throwing to them. So but he was such a threat to
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  run the ball that he was throwing the wide open
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  receivers. And I think that might be what
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  you have with with Utah this year because the quarterback
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  will be able to run, the backs will be able to run, and you're
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  going to have to play them 8-9 in the box and and pray that you
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  can cover everybody one-on-one. Full circle finish up with you
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  Andy. As we'll hear from Kirk parents
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  today, August 1st will turn 70 years old, most veteran,
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  obviously coaching by long ways. Now at the AT1 program, 27 years
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  now at Iowa. It started my sophomore year at
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  Iowa and here we are today. What was it he got?
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  He got hired what, like 2 days after Bob Stoops got hired?
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  Is that? Do you know the story behind
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  that? I'll fill you in, he tells his
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  idol. I'll tell you.
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  So I was a student at the University of Florida.
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  I'd been a walk on in Florida, got yelled at a lot by Bob
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  Stoops when he was in DC because I was, I was a, you know, scout
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  team offensive lineman. I had transitioned to working
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  for the school paper at that point.
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  And so Bob, I actually talked to Bob's mom the night he met, he
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  had met with Joe Castiglione, the Oklahoma ADI think they'd
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  met in Atlanta. And obviously everybody's is he
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  going to go to Iowa? Is he going to?
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  And so he takes the the Oklahoma job and and because, you know,
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  at that time, I'm 20, I don't know, I don't know anything.
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  I don't I don't appreciate the history of oh, Bob Stoops should
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  be going to Iowa. Yeah, that's the easy one.
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  So the way that I always heard the story as he came to Iowa
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  interview and anticipated he was just going to get the offer,
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  they had one more interview left and Bob Bullsby, who was the
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  athletic director at the time said we are going to do this.
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  It was somebody that Hayden wanted us to do.
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  It was Kirk Ference. Bob Stoops then said listen to
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  Hayden. Absolutely.
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  And Bob Stoops said, well, I am going to go visit Oklahoma
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  without a job offer. It was understood and that's
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  what happened. Now the good news is Bob Bullsby
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  wanted to hire Terry Allen. I think it all worked out.
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  And so that worked out pretty well in the grand scheme of
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  things. But you know how it is.
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  Here we are 27 years later and people still talk about that
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  story and what would have been. We've had a pretty good over
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  these last 27 years. Oh yeah.
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  I think I, I think Kirk understood that the last few in
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  the situation with Brian, I think probably shadows it a
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  little bit. But that said, come out of that,
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  have this, what we just talked about, have a dynamic
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  quarterback, potentially very competent offense.
• 17:57
  Yeah, match it with your excellent defense and all these
• 18:00
  excellent special teams make a playoff run.
• 18:03
  Yeah. Then everybody forgets all that.
• 18:04
  Yeah, absolutely goes away. You fixed it.
• 18:06
  He needs one more of those. Yeah, he needs one more.
• 18:09
  And if it happens, wait, you just saw him?
• 18:13
  He's in great shape. He, he doesn't, Yeah, he's he.
• 18:16
  He's not one of those people who looks his age and.
• 18:18
  He doesn't golf. Yeah, he he doesn't.
• 18:21
  Kyle Winningham at Utah is very similar.
• 18:22
  Yes, he's one of them. He and Mike Gundy, I think, are
• 18:26
  the the next two most senior coaches in in college football.
• 18:30
  But they're five years, you know, removed from from where
• 18:34
  Gundy or from where, where Kirk got hired.
• 18:36
  So, yeah, I, I just, it's funny because everybody keeps saying,
• 18:39
  well, when when's he going to retire?
• 18:41
  I have no idea. Yeah, I he he looks like he
• 18:43
  could do this for a long time. And he doesn't have any other
• 18:46
  hobbies, so unless he's going to Iowa City City High High School
• 18:49
  and coaching offensive line, I don't know what he's going to do
• 18:52
  to fill that time. And he'll just keep doing it and
• 18:54
  if he keeps doing it at a good level.
• 18:56
  Yeah, I was, I Reese Morgan, who used to be an assistant at Iowa.
• 18:59
  I was, I was always fascinated by him because I, I the first
• 19:02
  time I met him, I was like, how do you, how do you watch an 8
• 19:05
  man game and figure out that guys going to be an NFL
• 19:07
  defensive end? Like how do you do?
• 19:09
  That yeah, it's a different world, right?
• 19:11
  But I like. I imagine Kirk doing that just
• 19:14
  for fun. Yes, that's his fun.
• 19:16
  That's it. Hey, this has been fun, Andy.
• 19:18
  Appreciate it. Andy Staples on Three Media.
• 19:21
  I'll let everybody out there know as you've moved over to on
• 19:24
  three now within the last what? Year 2 years, two years now.
• 19:27
  And where they can find all your podcasts and all the great work
• 19:29
  you and well, you know, Ari's Ohio State guy, so that that's a
• 19:32
  different. He went to Arizona.
• 19:34
  He's a Buckeye. He's always a Buckeye to.
• 19:36
  Me. He's coming over.
• 19:37
  He's coming over here. He.
• 19:38
  Comes here, he comes. OK, so you can watch us on
• 19:43
  YouTube on the On Three Sports YouTube channel.
• 19:46
  Andy and Ari on Three is the name of the show, every podcast
• 19:49
  platform we're on. And you know, I don't recommend
• 19:52
  looking at us. You just might want to go listen
• 19:54
  to us. It'll be fine.
• 19:55
  But then you can and you can read my columns and Ari's
• 19:57
  columns at on three.com. Awesome.
• 19:59
  Andy Staples joining us. Appreciate the time, Andy.
• 20:01
  Thank you. We take a time out here on
• 20:03
  Miller and Condon as we are underway from Big 10 Football
• 20:06
  Media Days. We got Kurt Ferris coming up a
• 20:08
  little bit later on. We'll hear from the three
• 20:10
  players. From the Hawkeyes that are here
• 20:12
  also a little bit later with Lucas quick timeout, we're back
• 20:15
  with more on the other side, It's Miller and Condon on the
• 20:18
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Back with you live from media
• 20:29
  Radio row at Big 10 Football Media Day as it's Miller and
• 20:32
  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 20:34
  We'll take you up until 2:00 today, then it's off the bench.
• 20:37
  Lucas Strain, he is warming up in the bullpen getting ready and
• 20:41
  looks like he is struggling a little bit over there as well.
• 20:44
  Maybe we stayed out a little bit too late last night, but he's
• 20:47
  got Kirk Ference coming up. He'll also hear from the three
• 20:49
  players from the Iowa Hawkeyes that will be here at Big 10
• 20:53
  Football Media Days. Ethan Herkett is going to be
• 20:55
  here, Logan Jones and also Cohen Entriger and all three of them
• 20:58
  are also going to be joining Lucas a little bit later on in
• 21:01
  his program. That'll come up at about 3:15
• 21:03
  Central time and Kirk Ference at about.
• 21:07
  Let's see. Let's see if I can do the math.
• 21:08
  245 is when Kirks going to be stopping by.
• 21:12
  I believe he'll be on the podium though at 1:30 and we will bring
• 21:16
  that to you a little bit later on.
• 21:18
  We run the Big 10 Network and we'll have the audio for you.
• 21:20
  Speaking of audio, we got a little bit of opportunity to
• 21:23
  hear from Beth Getz earlier this morning.
• 21:25
  The Iowa athletic director, Lucas was over there and was
• 21:28
  able to get that audio for us and we'll play that for you
• 21:32
  right now. Little bit later on in the show,
• 21:33
  Spencer McLaughlin from Lockdown College Football, he's going to
• 21:36
  stop by. We'll talk with Spencer and dive
• 21:38
  into some of the big topics that are happening here at Big 10
• 21:40
  Football Media Days. Had to move a couple of things
• 21:42
  around. If you saw our initial tweet
• 21:45
  that we sent out a little bit earlier on, but let's get to
• 21:47
  that right now. Beth Getz, That's the Iowa
• 21:48
  athletic director from earlier this morning.
• 21:51
  So how's that gone so far with the revenue share and you guys
• 21:55
  been able to distribute some money, I assume?
• 21:58
  Yeah, you know what, we've been really pleased.
• 22:00
  It's gone really smoothly in terms of the operationalizing of
• 22:05
  just making that distribution for for many of our athletes.
• 22:08
  We made the first payment on July 1st and no, no issues and
• 22:14
  it went relatively smoothly. Smoothly.
• 22:16
  We I think it's already been reported work.
• 22:19
  So they were really good partner and a lot of leg work and things
• 22:23
  like that to get it uploaded. But when when it's smoothly,
• 22:25
  it's been difficult just in terms of how the NCAA is
• 22:30
  operating and the collectives are going to be.
• 22:32
  Gone. And now they're back.
• 22:34
  Like just. Managing that and then talking
• 22:36
  to Brad and getting all that, you know, handled a little more
• 22:40
  clarity would obviously be nice. But you know, at the end of the
• 22:44
  day, I mean, right now, all of that really just lies, you know,
• 22:47
  in, in terms of the, the settlement agreement.
• 22:49
  So that's working in with the, with the plaintiffs lawyers and
• 22:52
  trying to figure out what that that piece is going to play out.
• 22:55
  So, you know, it's helpful because, you know, I think Brad
• 22:58
  and I have a good relationship. We talk all the, you know, we
• 23:00
  talk all the time and just try to get comfortable saying, Hey,
• 23:04
  we're going to make the best decision we can today with the
• 23:06
  information we know and then pivot if we buy something else.
• 23:10
  And, you know, probably since COVID, I think that's the way
• 23:13
  we've all had to operate in athletics for a while.
• 23:15
  And so you'll have to get pretty comfortable and having a few
• 23:17
  contingency plans and, and just waiting to make plans to, to
• 23:21
  adjust them in, in another six weeks or so.
• 23:24
  How do you guys adjust budgetarily?
• 23:27
  Because there was a flood of money that came into the market
• 23:30
  this spring and now it's going to potentially have to draw back
• 23:33
  a little bit, I would think. Tell me more about specifically.
• 23:38
  Yeah, just like there seemed just generally there was a flood
• 23:40
  of money that came into the the players this spring.
• 23:44
  I know a lot of people were rushing to get deals done before
• 23:47
  the house thing was done. And now it's going to now.
• 23:50
  Yeah. And now it's going to
• 23:52
  potentially regress a little bit.
• 23:55
  How do you handle those situations?
• 23:57
  Well, I'm not sure if we know exactly if it's going to regress
• 24:00
  or not. You know, I think it goes to,
• 24:02
  you know, driving revenue has always been a priority and, you
• 24:06
  know, and at this level of college athletics, it's going to
• 24:08
  continue to be. So the different avenues that we
• 24:11
  have to do that, obviously being able to do a good chunk of that
• 24:14
  in house now is helpful. And so we've got a lot of
• 24:18
  different strategies going on there.
• 24:20
  But depending on how settlement terms play out with collectors,
• 24:24
  we'll have to see if there's something we can continue to do
• 24:26
  and to support, you know, from a third party, whether that's in a
• 24:30
  true collective form or something we want that into
• 24:33
  going forward. But it's, I mean, it's a lot of
• 24:36
  resource. We all know that is a component
• 24:38
  of it. But, you know, I think we're,
• 24:39
  we're going to be well positioned to, to, to make sure
• 24:42
  we're, we're at the table and can execute, You know, will
• 24:45
  every athlete receive revenue sharing money on campus or is it
• 24:50
  going to be exclusive to a couple of sports or it's every
• 24:56
  athlete on our campus will not, will not receive revenue share.
• 25:00
  We've made decisions based on the first year.
• 25:03
  So we really looked at this as a snapshot time with the ability
• 25:06
  again to to pivot as we needed to and so certainly focused on
• 25:09
  our revenue sports doesn't make me the sprinkling of others
• 25:14
  scholarship cases that as well. So you know, but we'll have to
• 25:18
  see how that plays, how we need to adjust to the market, to what
• 25:21
  our peers are doing, etcetera. How?
• 25:23
  Many sports. We'll start from moving targets.
• 25:29
  So we're not you know, at the end of the year we'll we'll have
• 25:32
  to see Clearly we're focused on men's women's basketball and you
• 25:36
  know, football and wrestling is a priority force as well.
• 25:39
  But it'll be a smattering of other individuals, I think
• 25:42
  along. When you all announced the the
• 25:44
  risers for and women's basketball, how did that idea
• 25:48
  kind of materialize and take shape?
• 25:49
  Yeah, well, I mean, you know, as we've been exploring the
• 25:51
  renovations to Carver Hawkeye Arena, moving the students
• 25:54
  closer certainly been a piece of that.
• 25:56
  He'd love to start that tomorrow and haven't executed for this
• 25:58
  season. But we just can't move quite
• 26:00
  that fast on that major project. And so we wanted to figure out
• 26:03
  what we could do temporarily to get the students closer.
• 26:07
  And so I know our staff loves it when I do this, but I was out
• 26:11
  pacing and marking off with, with with my feet on the on that
• 26:14
  baseline and we grabbed our facility staff and something I
• 26:17
  think we, you know, let's try to strategize and see what we can
• 26:20
  do here. And so they do, as always, they
• 26:22
  do a great job of trying to find a temporary solution and we'll
• 26:25
  see how it plays out. But I think it's AI think it'll
• 26:28
  be a positive and we're excited just to see if it changes the
• 26:31
  atmosphere. Beth.
• 26:32
  What are your thoughts about the current playoff format and all
• 26:35
  the discussions around, you know, the SEC going to 9 games?
• 26:38
  And 4422, just kind of where do you stand?
• 26:40
  On on that right now. Yeah, there's there's quite a
• 26:42
  few discussions going on in here.
• 26:44
  And Reid, you know, I think, you know, for us and as we think
• 26:48
  about what's best for the Big 10 and what's best for Iowa, you
• 26:51
  know, first and foremost, I think it's important that we all
• 26:53
  have access to get in the championship.
• 26:55
  And we we want to make sure that we're the regular season means
• 26:57
  something. And so, you know, as I think
• 27:00
  you've heard, I go to handled times, making sure that in the
• 27:03
  selection process there's there's something that makes
• 27:05
  sense. I think it's harder to do with a
• 27:07
  lot of at large bids at the moment.
• 27:09
  We run in human scheduling, You know, I like our regular season
• 27:13
  games really meaning something. I like them being irrelevant
• 27:16
  later in the the season, which I think the expanded playoff is
• 27:19
  already done. And, you know, there's a lot of
• 27:22
  nuance there. And and certainly, you know, the
• 27:24
  Big 10 might not be in the same place as everybody else in the
• 27:27
  league, but I think, you know, we'll continue to have those
• 27:29
  conversations and try to work to to get to a good place.
• 27:32
  Is there a concern that with CSC and all the and maybe limiting
• 27:37
  nil funds to players, fumbling them to through the school, that
• 27:41
  it drives it underground again like it used to be in the old
• 27:43
  days? And is do you feel that concern,
• 27:47
  you know, that it that the underground starts going again?
• 27:51
  I think that I think there's always bad actors in any system,
• 27:57
  whether or not the rules, you know, maybe encourage that more
• 28:03
  frequently or not. I think people that are going to
• 28:05
  try to find a way to work around the system and feel like that's
• 28:09
  a way to get an advantage are going to do that regardless of
• 28:11
  where this lands. So certainly enough how we plan
• 28:14
  to operate at Iowa, we'd like to see some structure,
• 28:18
  accountability and and a framework that we can all
• 28:21
  understand and live by and try to figure out how we, you know,
• 28:24
  create a strategy that works for us with it.
• 28:27
  But I think we'll, I think we, you'll see that when when
• 28:30
  people. I know yesterday, the day he was
• 28:37
  mad. And where do you think standing?
• 28:40
  Kind of. Collectively with the the
• 28:42
  playoff. Are you?
• 28:43
  Kind of lockstep with Tony. On his ideas or is is it
• 28:47
  splintered off? Is there are there?
• 28:49
  Is there a faction that prefers a different?
• 28:51
  Method rather than Tony's preferred 4422.
• 28:55
  My experience and in the conversations we've had, I mean
• 28:58
  Tony is an ambassador for what we want in the room and water
• 29:01
  coaches want. So he takes into account
• 29:04
  everybody's opinion. It's not, not that he obviously
• 29:07
  doesn't bring us strategy and suggestion, but he puts forward
• 29:10
  what we have asked him or presidents or coaches have asked
• 29:14
  him to do. So I haven't seen any seen any
• 29:16
  of that. I mean, to be honest, I don't
• 29:18
  know how much detailed discussion we're having at the
• 29:21
  moment. I mean, it's really a matter of
• 29:24
  let's see what these other format ideas might look like,
• 29:27
  talk about it when they're presented, when we when they
• 29:30
  give some detail about what the selection committee with the
• 29:34
  criteria might look like in a revamp thing, we'll consider
• 29:37
  that. So we'll adjust as we kind of
• 29:39
  go. I know previously you have been
• 29:41
  in the feasibility kind of portion with Carver renovations.
• 29:44
  Is that are you still, have you made progress with that or where
• 29:47
  you at with that At this point? We are making really good
• 29:51
  progress in our fundraising efforts.
• 29:54
  And so, you know, I think we're taking some steps there and, and
• 29:57
  the more steps we take that it'll allow us to come back and
• 30:00
  start to advance, you know, advance that project a little
• 30:03
  bit. So, you know, we've got a lot of
• 30:05
  work to do. It's a lot of resource that you
• 30:08
  have to put into to that facade and to make the improvements
• 30:11
  that we need. But it'll be an important, you
• 30:13
  know, it's important for many reasons.
• 30:15
  We've got graduation there. The building needs a lot, serves
• 30:17
  our fans really more than just search student athletes, but
• 30:21
  multiple sports and we need that facility to be standing and
• 30:24
  service everybody for another 40 years.
• 30:26
  What are the highest priorities in such of renovation or
• 30:31
  improvements? I think there's probably a few.
• 30:33
  I mean, one, there are some things that are just, oh, 43
• 30:37
  years and you're going to have to do some replacing and see if
• 30:39
  that, you know, that sort of upkeep is going to have to
• 30:41
  happen. And so you got that component
• 30:44
  first. But, you know, some other things
• 30:46
  are just how we best service something, anything from
• 30:48
  restrooms to how do we figure out to navigate the congestion,
• 30:53
  you know, that are Concord, which is we need to replace the
• 30:55
  entire bowl. How do we get the students
• 30:57
  closer? All those things are really key.
• 31:00
  But the other piece, it probably goes to the question about why
• 31:03
  are you still continuing to think about the facility project
• 31:06
  at all? Is that as a it's one of our key
• 31:08
  revenue drivers. And right now we just don't have
• 31:12
  enough opportunity in there to to drive revenue through
• 31:16
  Caribbean seating and through the way that, you know, many
• 31:18
  fans want to enjoy games these days.
• 31:21
  And so that'll be a big piece of the the revenue.
• 31:24
  Do you think that if you get such a renovation done, then
• 31:28
  you'd be the arena would be more marketable for concerts
• 31:32
  etcetera? I think that's certainly a
• 31:34
  possibility. I've read the long list on them
• 31:37
  for many of you events, some of those concerts, I mean you have
• 31:39
  some boy, you had some good artists that were in that
• 31:42
  facility. But I think that would certainly
• 31:43
  help and it would be something we would we would.
• 31:46
  Have you seen an uptick in men's basketball ticket sales or
• 31:50
  requests for season tickets for next year?
• 31:52
  We had, we had, you know, we had a lot of deposits for men's
• 31:55
  basketball that came out right away.
• 31:56
  And we're obviously on a sale now and season tickets and above
• 32:00
  year over year when we're working for some really positive
• 32:04
  momentum. OK.
• 32:05
  Thank you, guys. So that's Beth Guest from a
• 32:10
  little bit earlier this morning at Media Days here in Las Vegas.
• 32:15
  I'm hanging out with Jacob Worthen.
• 32:17
  You got it right? Yeah, you did.
• 32:19
  All right. So Jacob is with us.
• 32:21
  He is with the DI. KRUI.
• 32:24
  K All right, so radio guy over there in Iowa City and so you're
• 32:30
  in Vegas, which is pretty cool. You didn't get sent here by the
• 32:35
  radio station or is this something you did on your own?
• 32:37
  This is something I did on my own.
• 32:38
  I was kind of looking at the website for the big 10 media
• 32:43
  days and I saw a media application.
• 32:44
  I was like, you know what it was a similar experience me and my
• 32:48
  sports director Aiden words had in the spring because we do a
• 32:54
  wrestling podcast together down in Iowa City and we're he just
• 32:58
  applied for us for media credentials on a whim.
• 33:00
  He's like, hey, worse they say is no, and then we got approved,
• 33:03
  but he had a spring break trip. So I spent my spring break in
• 33:06
  Philly covering nationals and then I saw this.
• 33:09
  I was like worst they can say is no, That's right, and then got
• 33:12
  approved and now I'm here in Vegas.
• 33:13
  Oh, that's awesome. So you're a wrestling guy.
• 33:16
  I grew up in Osage wrestling community.
• 33:18
  I was a terrible wrestler, one in 23 my career, but I love
• 33:20
  wrestling as awful as I was at it.
• 33:23
  A lot of twalt going on with that Hawkeye program and latest
• 33:28
  and other guy's not going to be making his way there.
• 33:31
  Where do you stand right now on the Iowa wrestling program and
• 33:33
  kind of where they are going forward with Penn State, the
• 33:36
  behemoth that they are, The way that Oklahoma State's now
• 33:39
  spending money and kind of at least the near future of Iowa
• 33:43
  wrestling. I mean, I want to stay positive,
• 33:46
  but I'm also very realistic. The tide and landscape of
• 33:49
  wrestling is shifting and you're seeing that a lot with Oklahoma
• 33:52
  State. Whether or not Penn State is
• 33:56
  able to bounce back from certain comeuppance with Carter Sterochi
• 34:03
  and all of those allegations, we'll see because if things come
• 34:07
  out as true, you could see a new changing of the helm there at
• 34:10
  Penn State. I don't want to say anything for
• 34:12
  sure, but it can happen. I've seen it happen.
• 34:16
  As far as Iowa wrestling goes, I love Tom Brands.
• 34:20
  Tom is a good guy. Ever since I met him at Media
• 34:23
  Days last year, he was respectful enough.
• 34:28
  Reach out, give me a couple of inner interviews, cast great
• 34:32
  guy. But I think it's still a very
• 34:35
  old school approach to wrestling when it's more changing of the
• 34:40
  times when old school may not be the way to go.
• 34:44
  And I'm I'm glad he held his ground with Bo Bassett and the
• 34:49
  regional training center. You know, there's certain things
• 34:52
  you can do, certain things you can't do.
• 34:53
  And he held his, he stuck to his guns and held his ground.
• 34:57
  It does it hurt seeing the number one recruit go?
• 34:59
  Yeah, absolutely. But props to brands for standing
• 35:02
  his ground. I think you just got to look
• 35:07
  into it a little bit more with the recruiting aspect and now
• 35:10
  with the house settlement under our belts.
• 35:12
  How is that going to shape for? I mean, in Iowa it's revenue
• 35:16
  sport, but elsewhere it's not really a revenue sport.
• 35:20
  Yeah, it's a different time. And you know, all those other
• 35:23
  sports, all the Olympic sport, what kind of the future of them
• 35:26
  outside of the top tier programs?
• 35:28
  You know, you look at sports like men's gymnastics, it's down
• 35:30
  to what, 18 programs I think at the D1 level.
• 35:32
  And any kind of concerned as a wrestling fan of what the future
• 35:35
  is going to be. Hey, Jacob, appreciate you
• 35:37
  stopping by. Good talking to you.
• 35:38
  For people out there worthy, where can they catch your work?
• 35:41
  You can catch my work. I just started up a new podcast
• 35:44
  with a couple military buddies of mine.
• 35:45
  We're talking NFL and college football.
• 35:47
  That's a gridiron and grid on Spotify as well as Facebook and
• 35:50
  YouTube. If you are interested in my
• 35:53
  wrestling podcast, it's Pin to Win on Spotify.
• 35:56
  Otherwise, my socials are pretty much just you find me on X at
• 35:59
  Jacob Werthen 21. I've been covering some stuff
• 36:02
  around here. Asked Coach Dan Lanning and
• 36:05
  James Franklin how they feel about Rd. tests coming to Iowa.
• 36:09
  Our Instagram. Jacob Worthen, TikTok J Worthen.
• 36:13
  But yeah, that's where you can find me.
• 36:14
  I'll be doing a radio show on KRUI on Sundays.
• 36:17
  TuneIn and listen. That's awesome.
• 36:18
  Appreciate it. Thank you, Jacob.
• 36:19
  Thank you, Trent. All right, we'll take a quick
• 36:21
  time out here. More from Big 10 Football Media
• 36:23
  Days as we continue. It's Miller and Condon on the
• 36:26
  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Welcome back to Big 10 Football
• 36:34
  Media Days live from Las Vegas. We are set up here on Radio Row
• 36:39
  at Mandalay Bay as we got you covered here for the next 4
• 36:43
  hours plus Kirk Ference is going to stop by with Lucas little bit
• 36:47
  later on today. We're also going to hear from
• 36:49
  the three players that are with us and want some more audio
• 36:52
  sprinkled in as well. Kirk's going to take the podium
• 36:55
  coming up here at 1:30 and we'll bring that to you live coming up
• 36:59
  in just a little bit. But as well, we put a wrap on
• 37:02
  our #1 Spencer Mclaughlin's going to kick off our number 2
• 37:05
  with us. Spencer runs locked on college
• 37:07
  football, was also locked on Oregon.
• 37:11
  So talks a lot about the Ducks. And we're going to talk about
• 37:13
  that Iowa, Oregon matchup. We're going to get into that a
• 37:15
  little bit more and get his certainly perspective on when
• 37:19
  Oregon comes to town. What what's it going to be?
• 37:22
  What's the best game time? You know, you got the early body
• 37:24
  clock. We've talked about that before.
• 37:26
  You wanted an 11 AM game. Do you wanted a night game?
• 37:29
  Thinking what happened with Oregon a year ago when they had
• 37:31
  to make the trip to Madison and struggled in that game and and
• 37:34
  easily could have gone the other way.
• 37:35
  So we'll talk about that. We'll talk a lot of Big 10
• 37:37
  football and college football as a whole coming up here with
• 37:40
  Spencer McLaughlin. Do start our number 2.
• 37:44
  Tyler Allen is back with us in the studio.
• 37:48
  Tyler, I'm just guessing. I don't know for sure.
• 37:52
  Were you a Hulk Hogan guy? Because we're about the same
• 37:54
  age. I got to guess the news today.
• 37:57
  Was it devastating to you? Hulk Hogan passed me away.
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  Yeah, You know, when you, when you come down to it, as we get
• 38:02
  older and we get more information, a lot more of our
• 38:05
  heroes are going to die and stuff.
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  And and obviously I've watched like the cartoon with like the
• 38:09
  junkyard dog and Rowdy Roddy Piper back in the day with the
• 38:14
  Iron Sheik. And I mean, yeah, I mean when
• 38:17
  you're growing up and stuff that those guys are, are heroes and
• 38:21
  everything and whatever I feel about him now.
• 38:23
  He is a. Icon of wrestling and obviously
• 38:27
  a lot of a lot of people are sad that he's gone.
• 38:30
  I am sad that he's gone. It's it's a blow, man.
• 38:32
  It's Ozzy earlier this week, too, you know.
• 38:38
  It's been yeah, kid of the 80s, Theo Huxtable.
• 38:40
  I mean, it yeah, comes in threes.
• 38:42
  And you talk about for us two kids of the 80s, I mean, this
• 38:45
  has been just a a devastating weekend, yes, personal things
• 38:48
  aside with Hulk Hogan and we leave that to the side.
• 38:51
  We just talk about the entertainer and and that was an
• 38:54
  era. You know, we got Lucas here and
• 38:56
  trying to explain, you know, the importance of Saturday Night
• 38:59
  Live, a main event that we got, you know, things like that.
• 39:01
  And just the opportunity it was, it was absolutely incredible
• 39:05
  that that we were able to, you know, get something like that.
• 39:09
  Look, I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago.
• 39:11
  But you're right. I think you said it perfectly.
• 39:13
  And an absolute icon, a guy that was just a huge part of the
• 39:18
  consciousness of just people like us that grew up, people in
• 39:21
  their 40s, fifties now that grew up at that time that he was.
• 39:25
  It felt like even in a sporting world, he was just larger than
• 39:28
  life. Yeah, just larger than life and
• 39:30
  and you can't deny that, you know, it was just there, there
• 39:32
  were, they were odds almost to us when we were growing up, you
• 39:35
  know. I absolutely 71 years old Hulk
• 39:41
  Hogan passing away today. Hour in the books.
• 39:44
  We got one more to go. We'll kick things off Spencer
• 39:46
  Mclaughlin's going to join us from lockdown College football.
• 39:49
  Kirk Ference coming up at 1:30. A busy hour number two.
• 39:53
  Stick right there. We're back with more on the Iowa
• 39:55
  Sports Radio Network.