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- 0:00Speaker 1: She wasn't a member of my family.
- 0:04Speaker 2: I guess dated.
- 0:06Speaker 1: My son a long time ago, but she wasn't. No,
- 0:11Speaker 1: she went to Greece.
- 0:15Speaker 3: She was doing.
- 0:16Speaker 1: A good job, but we didn't like what we were reading.
- 0:18Speaker 3: She wasn't a member of La Familia and we didn't
- 0:24Speaker 3: like what we were reading. Two bad news stories. Hi again, everybody.
- 0:28Speaker 3: It's five o'clock in New York. It is one of
- 0:31Speaker 3: the only remaining rules that Trump has. Don't get caught
- 0:37Speaker 3: looking weak and desperate. And if you do, make sure
- 0:40Speaker 3: it isn't in writing. In the press, the United States
- 0:43Speaker 3: ambassador to Greece, one Kimberly Guilfoyle, seemingly did everything wrong.
- 0:49Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal published two damaging stories in just
- 0:52Speaker 3: the last week that exposed her conduct before and during
- 0:55Speaker 3: her time in Athens. One discovered that in the days
- 0:58Speaker 3: before her Senate confirmation, she asked a Trump donor to
- 1:02Speaker 3: pay her $ 100, 000 Amex bill, begging in writing, quote, honey,
- 1:07Speaker 3: please be a text message. Another revealed that earlier this year,
- 1:11Speaker 3: she was traipsing around Davos talking about her ties to
- 1:15Speaker 3: Greek tycoons that were, quote, bankrolling her high rolling trips
- 1:19Speaker 3: around the world, end quote. And as you heard from
- 1:22Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Kimberly Guilfoyle, I hardly knew her. She wasn't
- 1:26Speaker 3: in my family and she is out. It was announced
- 1:29Speaker 3: today by his brand new White House press secretary, which
- 1:33Speaker 3: is another story for another day, that the administration had
- 1:37Speaker 3: asked for Kimberly Guilfoyle's resignation. She soon gave them that
- 1:41Speaker 3: and confirmed via social media. In a lengthy post, she
- 1:44Speaker 3: thanked the White House and the State Department and denied
- 1:46Speaker 3: the allegations against her. When asked if she would investigate
- 1:51Speaker 3: Kimberly Guilfoyle's conduct, her former colleague at Fox News, D.C.
- 1:55Speaker 1: U.S.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Attorney Jeanine Pirro, didn't really answer yes or no. She
- 2:00Speaker 3: said this, quote, I think right now that there is
- 2:03Speaker 3: an inspector general investigation in the Department of State. We
- 2:08Speaker 3: probably wait to see what comes, what happens with that,
- 2:11Speaker 3: end quote. Now, if this White House really thought that
- 2:14Speaker 3: Kimberly Guilfoyle's actions were so egregious that she should be fired,
- 2:18Speaker 3: that she should no longer serve in the government, that
- 2:21Speaker 3: she should no longer be worthy of the public trust,
- 2:25Speaker 3: shouldn't they investigate her? Now, this administration is no stranger
- 2:30Speaker 3: to conflicts of interest, to self-enrichment, to profiting off one's position.
- 2:35Speaker 3: So it is interesting that the Trump White House administration
- 2:39Speaker 3: only stood for two bad stories in the Wall Street Journal,
- 2:42Speaker 3: and they gave Guilfoyle, who was almost Trump's daughter-in-law, Donald
- 2:46Speaker 3: Trump Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle were engaged, gave her the boot.
- 2:52Speaker 3: It's especially interesting when you consider that the Trump sons,
- 2:56Speaker 3: one of them was engaged to Guilfoyle, is heavily invested
- 2:59Speaker 3: in defense companies that are getting contracts with the Pentagon.
- 3:03Speaker 3: Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, married his daughter Ivanka. Key negotiator
- 3:08Speaker 3: in Mideast Peace received $ 2 billion with a B from
- 3:11Speaker 3: the Saudis and his private equity firm. At the time,
- 3:13Speaker 3: it was more money than Mnuchin got. Kushner's co-negotiator, Steve Witkoff,
- 3:19Speaker 3: has made millions over the last year, some of which
- 3:22Speaker 3: was from investments in Trump family businesses. Trump's own son...
- 3:28Speaker 3: had his wedding after party paid for on an island
- 3:32Speaker 3: by a Russian oligarch currently in good standing with Vladimir Putin,
- 3:36Speaker 3: who went from a Putin event to a Trump event.
- 3:40Speaker 1: But Kimberly?
- 3:43Speaker 3: She went too far. Seeing how far is too far
- 3:46Speaker 3: for Donald Trump is where we begin the hour with
- 3:48Speaker 3: some of our favorite reporters and friends. Our senior White
- 3:51Speaker 3: House reporter, Vaughn Hilliard, is here. Also joining us, author
- 3:53Speaker 3: of the Substack newsletter, To the Contrary, Charlie Sykes is back.
- 3:57Speaker 3: And former Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the FBI,
- 4:00Speaker 3: National Security and Intelligence Analyst Michael Feinberg is here. Von Hilliard,
- 4:04Speaker 3: what did Kimberly Guilfoyle do that none of the other
- 4:09Speaker 3: people with their hand in the taxpayer coffers has done?
- 4:13Speaker 2: Well, she got caught on an audio recording, had it
- 4:16Speaker 2: reported by The Wall Street Journal, and she happens to
- 4:19Speaker 2: be the ex-fiance, not a current fiance or wife of
- 4:23Speaker 2: Don Jr., one of Donald Trump's sons. And we should
- 4:26Speaker 2: be clear, Nicole, she kind of got a soft landing
- 4:29Speaker 2: at the end of 2024. She and Don Jr. broke
- 4:31Speaker 2: up at the end of 2024. Right. As Donald Trump
- 4:35Speaker 2: was winning the presidency again, of course, he's now married
- 4:39Speaker 2: a different woman. And they ultimately gave her the ambassadorship
- 4:42Speaker 2: to go to Greece. And that is where here in
- 4:44Speaker 2: these recordings. She explicitly says that she flew to Paris,
- 4:49Speaker 2: went to Fashion Week, and that she had it covered
- 4:53Speaker 2: by a Greek shipping tycoon, the flight and the four-season stay.
- 4:57Speaker 2: But let's also be clear, Nicole, not just that she
- 5:00Speaker 2: had it covered. She actually posted images of her there
- 5:03Speaker 2: with this very tycoon all over her own Instagram page.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Page.
- 5:07Speaker 2: And so she flaunted it. And in so many ways,
- 5:10Speaker 2: it reminds me of what I've done a lot of
- 5:11Speaker 2: weekends over the last years is going through Mar-a-Lago social
- 5:16Speaker 2: media posts or Bedminster posts. And it's kind of a
- 5:18Speaker 2: lifestyle that so many people play. And I think that
- 5:20Speaker 2: that's where it kind of hits at sort of this,
- 5:23Speaker 2: you know, sort of the blurring of the lines of
- 5:25Speaker 2: what is ethical and what is wrong. And even her
- 5:27Speaker 2: own attorneys in a statement just yesterday before this announced
- 5:31Speaker 2: resignation said, They said, well, she was owed hundreds of
- 5:35Speaker 2: thousands of dollars by this donor for speaking engagements and
- 5:40Speaker 2: for consulting, essentially acknowledging that she had a quid pro
- 5:46Speaker 2: quo relationship, even though they said it wasn't that, but
- 5:49Speaker 2: that's what the donor says it was. And here is
- 5:51Speaker 2: where Kimberly Guilfoyle finds herself now.
- 5:55Speaker 3: I mean, of course it's all unethical and of course
- 5:57Speaker 3: it's all wrong. I guess my only point is that
- 6:02Speaker 3: they're all doing it. And if you're going to fire one,
- 6:05Speaker 3: is it a new standard to fire all of them?
- 6:07Speaker 3: Here's Mr. Witkoff, quote, September 10th, Trump's special envoy hauled
- 6:11Speaker 3: in more than $ 250 million while in government. Witkoff's earnings
- 6:16Speaker 3: reported in a newly released disclosure form for 2025 include
- 6:19Speaker 3: $ 120 million from selling a stake in his family's real
- 6:22Speaker 3: estate business, But he also collected nearly $ 107 million from
- 6:25Speaker 3: a holding company that invested in a variety of other ventures,
- 6:29Speaker 3: including the Trump family crypto business. The Witkoff and Trump
- 6:32Speaker 3: families founded the crypto business World Liberty Financial in the
- 6:35Speaker 3: run-up to the 2024 election. And although World Liberty has
- 6:38Speaker 3: said Witkoff was not involved in the company's operations last year,
- 6:42Speaker 3: he continued to own a financial stake until divesting it
- 6:44Speaker 3: early this year. Vaughn, has World Liberty been profitable for
- 6:49Speaker 3: Trump supporters who invested in it?
- 6:52Speaker 2: No, they've lost money. And I think that this is
- 6:54Speaker 2: where what is the means of profit and who is profiting?
- 6:58Speaker 2: If it's Donald Trump, if it's his best friend, Steve Woodcock,
- 7:04Speaker 2: if it's members of the actual family, there has not
- 7:07Speaker 2: been seemingly any consequences. And we've almost... I think as
- 7:11Speaker 2: a society, you know, to a certain extent become numb.
- 7:14Speaker 2: But at the same time, you hear repeatedly from voters
- 7:17Speaker 2: on the road saying that corruption is at the top
- 7:19Speaker 2: of their mind. And I think in the case of
- 7:21Speaker 2: Kimberly Guilfoyle.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I think that she is one of those individuals who
- 7:25Speaker 2: undoubtedly knows a great amount of information about the Trump family.
- 7:30Speaker 2: But also, I think that this hits at the issue for.
- 7:33Speaker 2: those in Trump's orbit, is that while they may not
- 7:36Speaker 2: be profiting in the same ways as the Trump family
- 7:40Speaker 2: itself or Steve Witkoff, that there's also not very much
- 7:44Speaker 2: of a lucrative business to flip on him. And we
- 7:47Speaker 2: could go through a long list of people that have
- 7:49Speaker 2: tried to speak out against the Trump organization or the
- 7:52Speaker 2: Trump family, and many of them came crawling back to
- 7:55Speaker 2: Donald Trump because they realized in the case of Gimberley Guilfoyle,
- 7:59Speaker 2: there was hundreds of thousands of dollars in speaking engagement
- 8:01Speaker 2: or consulting fees to be made by a sheer prevalence
- 8:07Speaker 2: to the Trump family itself. So ultimately, I think in
- 8:11Speaker 2: so many ways, not to skirt the question, but voters
- 8:14Speaker 2: are repeatedly saying that corruption is an issue, whether it's
- 8:17Speaker 2: enough to get Donald Trump to, you know, try to
- 8:20Speaker 2: push Kimberly Guilfoyle out because it was so obvious and
- 8:23Speaker 2: so apparent in the form of recordings and text messages. Clearly,
- 8:26Speaker 2: that was a line in this case that was too
- 8:29Speaker 2: far for him.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Just fascinating to me where the line is. Let me
- 8:33Speaker 3: play some of the sound. This is Eric Dieters. He's
- 8:37Speaker 3: the guy who says that Kimberly ambushed him to pay
- 8:42Speaker 3: her bills. Michael Feinberg, let me play this for you.
- 8:47Speaker 1: She ambushed me out of the blue with this $ 200, 000
- 8:52Speaker 1: American Express offer. And she offered me to be her
- 8:57Speaker 1: ride and die forever if I did this. And to
- 9:01Speaker 1: be very candid, but I did not do it. But
- 9:05Speaker 1: the reason why I did not do it is I
- 9:07Speaker 1: didn't have that money at the time. It was the
- 9:10Speaker 1: worst time that she could have ever asked me for
- 9:12Speaker 1: another $ 100, 000.
- 9:16Speaker 4: So there's so.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Much in there. I've seen this four times now. I
- 9:20Speaker 3: saw it when Peter did the interview and I played
- 9:22Speaker 3: it on my show later that day. If you're looking
- 9:25Speaker 3: for evidence of widespread criminality, what is clear from just
- 9:30Speaker 3: that short snippet is that If I did this, I
- 9:35Speaker 3: would be her ride or die forever. There's a language
- 9:38Speaker 3: that they use. We're like way beyond, was it a
- 9:40Speaker 3: quid pro quo? It was like a monogamous quid pro.
- 9:43Speaker 3: It was like, I will only quid with your pro, right?
- 9:45Speaker 3: Like that's where these people are with one another. And
- 9:48Speaker 3: the other piece of this is that she was a
- 9:52Speaker 3: repeat customer. And my only, I guess, line of questioning
- 9:56Speaker 3: for you, Michael Feinberg, is in a normal world, wouldn't
- 9:59Speaker 3: you want to know how all the other ambassadors are
- 10:01Speaker 3: conducting their business?
- 10:05Speaker 1: Of course, but I think it really is safe to
- 10:07Speaker 1: say at this point in this administration that we should
- 10:10Speaker 1: just assume that the norm is corruption and the real
- 10:15Speaker 1: anomaly would be a deviance towards transparency and law following.
- 10:22Speaker 1: I mean, look, Kimberly Guilfoyle has been pushed out, but
- 10:27Speaker 1: Tom Homan hasn't, despite very credible allegations against him. We
- 10:33Speaker 1: have congressional and senatorial candidates in Ohio who have been
- 10:38Speaker 1: accused of beating their spouses, who Trump defends. We have
- 10:44Speaker 1: outright white supremacists and racists whom Trump defends. Like the
- 10:50Speaker 1: only people he will not defend are those who are
- 10:54Speaker 1: what I would just say are baseline, normal, moral human beings.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And that says something about his orbit. And I want
- 11:03Speaker 1: to point something out as well. Mr. Dieters, from whom
- 11:06Speaker 1: we just heard, is a self-identified Trump voter and supporter.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Like nobody who was conscious or awake for 2016 to
- 11:18Speaker 1: 2020 could have any doubt about what they were getting
- 11:22Speaker 1: if they brought him back to office. This is a
- 11:24Speaker 1: man who tried to overturn a Democratic election. The fact
- 11:29Speaker 1: that this bribe didn't work out might really now aggrieve Mr. Dieters.
- 11:37Speaker 1: But nobody should be surprised at it. None of his
- 11:41Speaker 1: supporters should look to the stars and question how this
- 11:45Speaker 1: is happening. It's happening because people voted him back into
- 11:49Speaker 1: office knowing what they were going to get.
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