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Keeping your creativity alive with Nick Rutter · Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney

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  I
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  mean,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  had
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  to
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  take
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  it
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  in
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  my
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  stride.
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  I
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  mean,
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  first
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  Indian
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  weddings,
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  I
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  had
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  never,
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  you
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  know,
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  shot
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  an
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  Indian
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  wedding
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  before.
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  I'd
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  never
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  shot
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  a
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  pre
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  wedding
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  event
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  like
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  a
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  howdy
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  or
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  a
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  Mehdi
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  with
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  a
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  henna.
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  So
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  the
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  first
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  one
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  I
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  did
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  was
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  good
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  sort
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  of
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  10
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  years
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  ago
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  and
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  then,
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  and
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  then
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  became
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  a
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  lot
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  more
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  as
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  I
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  was
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  pushing
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  it
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  a
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  bit
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  more
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  and
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  actually
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  changing
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  my
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  SEO
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  from
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  targeting
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  Bournemouth
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  and
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  Dorset
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  to
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  targeting
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  more
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  of
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  the
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  cities
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  in
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  which
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  the
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  multicultural
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  weddings
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  would
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  happen.
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  I'm
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  Becca
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  Poutney,
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  wedding
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  business
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  marketing
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  expert,
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  speaker
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  and
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  blogger
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  and
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  you're
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  listening
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  to
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  the
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  Wedding
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  Pros
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  who
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  Are
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  Ready
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  to
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  Grow
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  podcast.
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  I'm
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  here
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  to
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  share
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  with
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  you
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  actionable
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  tips,
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  strategies
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  and
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  real
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  life
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  examples
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  to
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  help
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  you
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  take
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  your
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  wedding
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  business
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  to
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  the
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  next
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  level.
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  If
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  you
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  are
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  an
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  ambitious
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  wedding
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  business
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  owner
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  that
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  wants
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  to
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  take
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  your
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  passion
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  and
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  use
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  it
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  to
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  build
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  a
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  profitable,
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  sustainable
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  business
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  doing
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  what
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  you
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  love,
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  then
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  you're
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  in
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  the
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  right
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  place.
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  Let's
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  get
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  going
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  with
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  today's
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  episode.
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  Today
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  I'm
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  chatting
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  with
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  wedding
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  photographer
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  Nick
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  Rutter.
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  He
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  describes
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  himself
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  as
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  a
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  natural
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  multicultural
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  wedding
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  photographer
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  and
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  he's
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  captured
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  over
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  400
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  weddings
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  across
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  his
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  17
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  years
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  in
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  the
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  industry.
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  Nick
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  lives
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  in
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  favorite
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  places
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  in
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  the
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  country,
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  Bournemouth,
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  but
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  he
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  travels
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  across
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  the
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  UK
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  and
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  the
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  world
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  to
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  shoot
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  weddings.
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  Today
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  find
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  out
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  more
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  about
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  Nick's
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  journey
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  and
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  the
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  way
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  he
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  has
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  seen
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  the
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  industry
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  shift
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  over
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  the
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  last
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  17
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  years.
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  Nick,
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  podcast.
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  Hi,
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  thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  It
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  is
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  such
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  a
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  pleasure
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  to
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  have
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  you.
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  Especially,
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  as
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  I
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  said
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  in
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  the
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  intro,
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  you're
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  from
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  favorite
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  places
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  in
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  the
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  country.
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  Everyone
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  has
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  a
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  happy
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  place
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  and
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  happy
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  places
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  is
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  Hengusbury
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  Head
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  in
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  Bournemouth.
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  So
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  are
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  you
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  Bournemouth
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  Bournembred?
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  Have
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  you
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  always
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  been
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  there?
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  lived
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  here
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  all
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  my
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  life.
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  Yeah.
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  I
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  won't
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  say
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  for
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  how
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  many
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  years,
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  but
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  yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
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  you
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  know,
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  you
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  can't
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  really
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  be
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  Bournemouth,
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  can
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  you?
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  Like
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  you
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  said,
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  Hangersbury
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  Head,
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  you've
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  got
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  the
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  beaches,
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  sandbanks
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  as
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  well,
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  and
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  then
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  the
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  forests
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  and
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  it's
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  close
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  to
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  commuting
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  on
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  the
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  motorways
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  and
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  stuff.
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  It's
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  not
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  a
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  bad
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  place
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  to
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  live.
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  Yeah,
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  no,
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  it's
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  absolutely
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  stunning.
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  And
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  one
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  day
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  I
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  hope
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  that
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  I'll
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  return
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  there.
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  One
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  day
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  maybe
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  when
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  I
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  retire
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  I'll
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  get
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  back
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  there.
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  But
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  at
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  the
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  moment
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  it's
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  more
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  for
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  taking
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  my
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  children
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  on
• 2:46
  holiday
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  there
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  so
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  that
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  they
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  can
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  also
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  see
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  my
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  happy
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  places.
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  Now,
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  let's
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  move
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  on
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  from
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  talking
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  about
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  Bournemouth,
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  otherwise
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  you'll
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  have
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  me
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  there
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  all
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  Day.
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  What
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  I
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  love
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  to
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  do
• 2:53
  at
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  start
• 2:54
  of
• 2:54
  these
• 2:54
  episodes,
• 2:55
  Nick,
• 2:55
  is
• 2:55
  to
• 2:55
  just
• 2:55
  get
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  to
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  know
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  a
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  bit
• 2:56
  about
• 2:56
  the
• 2:57
  person
• 2:57
  who
• 2:58
  I'm
• 2:58
  chatting
• 2:58
  to.
• 2:58
  I
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  think
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  it's
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  really
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  important
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  when
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  people
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  are
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  listening
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  to
• 3:01
  someone
• 3:01
  else
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  that
• 3:01
  they
• 3:02
  understand
• 3:02
  where
• 3:02
  they've
• 3:02
  come
• 3:02
  from.
• 3:03
  They
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  understand
• 3:03
  the
• 3:04
  journey
• 3:04
  that
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  it's
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  taken
• 3:05
  them
• 3:05
  to
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  get
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  there.
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  So
• 3:06
  we
• 3:06
  said
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  in
• 3:07
  the
• 3:07
  intro,
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  you've
• 3:07
  been
• 3:07
  in
• 3:07
  the
• 3:08
  industry
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  17
• 3:08
  years.
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  When
• 3:09
  was
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  first
• 3:10
  time
• 3:10
  that
• 3:10
  you
• 3:10
  remember
• 3:11
  actually
• 3:11
  picking
• 3:11
  up
• 3:11
  a
• 3:12
  camera?
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  Have
• 3:12
  you
• 3:12
  always
• 3:12
  been
• 3:13
  into
• 3:13
  photography
• 3:13
  or
• 3:14
  did
• 3:14
  it
• 3:14
  happen
• 3:14
  a
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  bit
• 3:14
  later
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  in
• 3:15
  life?
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  No,
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  not
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  really.
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  My
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  sister
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  got
• 3:17
  into
• 3:17
  it
• 3:17
  first,
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  just
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  college
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  and
• 3:20
  things.
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  And
• 3:20
  my
• 3:20
  dad's
• 3:21
  always
• 3:21
  been
• 3:22
  photographing
• 3:22
  various
• 3:23
  different
• 3:23
  things
• 3:23
  over
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  years
• 3:24
  and
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  fact
• 3:24
  he
• 3:25
  was
• 3:25
  in
• 3:25
  one
• 3:26
  of
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  wars
• 3:26
  taking
• 3:27
  photographs
• 3:27
  from
• 3:27
  airplanes.
• 3:28
  But
• 3:28
  it
• 3:29
  wasn't
• 3:29
  ever
• 3:29
  something
• 3:29
  that
• 3:30
  I
• 3:30
  considered
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  or
• 3:31
  thought
• 3:31
  of
• 3:31
  as
• 3:31
  a
• 3:31
  career.
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  I
• 3:32
  started
• 3:33
  about
• 3:33
  8,
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  16,
• 3:35
  started
• 3:35
  doing
• 3:35
  web
• 3:35
  and
• 3:36
  graphic
• 3:36
  design
• 3:37
  and
• 3:37
  just
• 3:37
  did
• 3:38
  it
• 3:38
  in
• 3:38
  my
• 3:38
  spare
• 3:39
  time
• 3:39
  and
• 3:40
  for
• 3:40
  event
• 3:41
  music
• 3:41
  events
• 3:41
  and
• 3:42
  things
• 3:42
  because
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  was
• 3:42
  heavily
• 3:42
  into
• 3:43
  music,
• 3:43
  playing
• 3:44
  drums
• 3:44
  and
• 3:45
  listening
• 3:45
  and
• 3:45
  going
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  C
• 3:46
  bands.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:47
  I
• 3:47
  just
• 3:47
  started
• 3:47
  to
• 3:48
  do
• 3:49
  bring
• 3:49
  my
• 3:49
  camera
• 3:49
  to
• 3:50
  events
• 3:50
  and
• 3:50
  started
• 3:50
  doing
• 3:51
  event
• 3:51
  for
• 3:51
  photography.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:52
  then
• 3:52
  people
• 3:53
  seeing
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  and
• 3:54
  then
• 3:54
  asking
• 3:54
  for
• 3:54
  me
• 3:54
  to
• 3:54
  do
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  events.
• 3:55
  And
• 3:56
  then
• 3:56
  subsequently
• 3:57
  after
• 3:57
  that,
• 3:57
  people
• 3:57
  asking
• 3:58
  to.
• 3:58
  For
• 3:59
  me
• 3:59
  to
• 3:59
  do
• 3:59
  their
• 3:59
  wedding.
• 4:00
  And
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  was
• 4:00
  like,
• 4:01
  oh,
• 4:01
  really?
• 4:01
  And
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  was
• 4:02
  like,
• 4:02
  yeah,
• 4:02
  we'll
• 4:02
  pay
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  like
• 4:02
  50
• 4:03
  quid
• 4:03
  or
• 4:03
  something.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  I
• 4:04
  was
• 4:04
  like,
• 4:04
  okay,
• 4:04
  cool.
• 4:04
  You
• 4:04
  know,
• 4:05
  and
• 4:05
  I
• 4:05
  could,
• 4:05
  you
• 4:05
  know,
• 4:06
  take
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  photograph,
• 4:06
  but
• 4:07
  I
• 4:07
  was
• 4:07
  classic
• 4:08
  amateur
• 4:08
  with
• 4:09
  basic
• 4:09
  SLR
• 4:10
  with,
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  know,
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  little
• 4:11
  flip
• 4:11
  flash
• 4:12
  on
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  top,
• 4:12
  automatic
• 4:13
  setting,
• 4:14
  not
• 4:14
  really
• 4:14
  knowing
• 4:15
  what
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  was
• 4:15
  doing.
• 4:16
  But
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  started
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  work
• 4:18
  for
• 4:18
  a
• 4:18
  friend
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  mine's
• 4:19
  design
• 4:19
  agency.
• 4:19
  After
• 4:20
  university
• 4:21
  and
• 4:23
  2008
• 4:24
  hit
• 4:24
  and
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  whole
• 4:25
  kind
• 4:25
  of
• 4:26
  economic
• 4:26
  downturn
• 4:27
  happened
• 4:28
  and
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  was
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  sensible
• 4:30
  person
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  go
• 4:31
  because
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  was
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  junior
• 4:32
  doing
• 4:33
  web
• 4:33
  and
• 4:33
  graphic
• 4:33
  design.
• 4:34
  And
• 4:34
  so
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  thought,
• 4:36
  okay,
• 4:37
  well,
• 4:37
  I've
• 4:38
  done
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  few
• 4:38
  weddings,
• 4:38
  including
• 4:39
  one
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  my
• 4:40
  first
• 4:40
  weddings
• 4:40
  was
• 4:40
  my
• 4:40
  sister's
• 4:41
  wedding,
• 4:41
  where
• 4:42
  just
• 4:42
  like
• 4:42
  16
• 4:42
  of
• 4:43
  us
• 4:43
  went
• 4:43
  over
• 4:43
  to,
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  think
• 4:45
  it's
• 4:45
  Borgo
• 4:46
  Mazano
• 4:46
  in,
• 4:48
  oh,
• 4:48
  Tuscany
• 4:49
  in
• 4:49
  Italy.
• 4:50
  One
• 4:50
  of
• 4:50
  my
• 4:50
  first
• 4:51
  weddings
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  her
• 4:51
  actually
• 4:52
  asking
• 4:52
  me
• 4:52
  to
• 4:53
  do
• 4:53
  just
• 4:53
  black
• 4:54
  and
• 4:54
  white
• 4:54
  photography,
• 4:55
  which
• 4:55
  is
• 4:55
  very
• 4:56
  kind
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  rare
• 4:56
  these
• 4:56
  days
• 4:56
  that
• 4:57
  a
• 4:57
  wedding
• 4:57
  would
• 4:57
  have
• 4:58
  just
• 4:58
  black
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  white.
• 4:59
  They'd
• 5:00
  have
• 5:00
  a
• 5:00
  variation
• 5:00
  of
• 5:01
  it.
• 5:01
  And
• 5:02
  that
• 5:02
  was,
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  know,
• 5:02
  one
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  my
• 5:03
  first
• 5:03
  kind
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  big
• 5:04
  weddings.
• 5:04
  If
• 5:04
  you
• 5:05
  actually
• 5:05
  didn't
• 5:05
  pay
• 5:05
  me,
• 5:06
  I
• 5:07
  did
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  for
• 5:07
  free.
• 5:08
  But
• 5:09
  yeah,
• 5:10
  so
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  started
• 5:10
  to
• 5:10
  do
• 5:10
  a
• 5:11
  few
• 5:11
  weddings.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:11
  so
• 5:11
  I
• 5:11
  had
• 5:12
  some
• 5:12
  weddings
• 5:12
  in
• 5:13
  terms
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  portfolio
• 5:15
  under
• 5:15
  my
• 5:15
  belt
• 5:15
  and
• 5:16
  under
• 5:16
  my
• 5:16
  Belt
• 5:16
  to
• 5:17
  just
• 5:17
  then
• 5:17
  send
• 5:18
  out
• 5:20
  leaflets
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  people
• 5:21
  or
• 5:21
  ask
• 5:22
  local
• 5:22
  companies
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  knew
• 5:24
  locally
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  were
• 5:25
  a
• 5:25
  bridal
• 5:26
  place
• 5:26
  or
• 5:26
  something
• 5:27
  just
• 5:27
  to
• 5:27
  put
• 5:27
  my
• 5:27
  flyers
• 5:28
  in.
• 5:28
  And
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  started
• 5:28
  to
• 5:29
  get
• 5:29
  booked
• 5:29
  up.
• 5:30
  So
• 5:30
  much
• 5:31
  so
• 5:31
  that
• 5:31
  my
• 5:31
  first
• 5:32
  two
• 5:32
  years
• 5:32
  were
• 5:33
  probably
• 5:33
  sort
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  about
• 5:34
  15
• 5:34
  weddings.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:34
  then
• 5:35
  2010,
• 5:35
  2011,
• 5:36
  I
• 5:37
  would
• 5:37
  be
• 5:37
  doing
• 5:37
  30
• 5:38
  weddings
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  year,
• 5:39
  but
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  course
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  lot
• 5:40
  less
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  what
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  would
• 5:41
  charge
• 5:41
  now.
• 5:42
  Amazing.
• 5:42
  So
• 5:43
  did
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  do
• 5:43
  that
• 5:43
  straight
• 5:44
  after
• 5:44
  being
• 5:44
  let
• 5:45
  go
• 5:45
  from
• 5:45
  this
• 5:45
  other
• 5:45
  job
• 5:45
  then?
• 5:46
  Did
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  just
• 5:46
  get
• 5:46
  let
• 5:47
  go
• 5:47
  and
• 5:47
  then
• 5:47
  think,
• 5:47
  right,
• 5:47
  that's
• 5:48
  it,
• 5:48
  I'm
• 5:48
  going
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  go
• 5:48
  full
• 5:48
  time
• 5:48
  in
• 5:49
  photography
• 5:49
  pretty
• 5:49
  much.
• 5:50
  Because
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  design
• 5:50
  job
• 5:50
  was
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  first
• 5:51
  kind
• 5:51
  of
• 5:51
  full
• 5:52
  time
• 5:52
  job
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  I
• 5:53
  had
• 5:53
  really,
• 5:54
  even
• 5:54
  though
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  was
• 5:54
  kind
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  later
• 5:55
  in
• 5:55
  my
• 5:55
  Life,
• 5:55
  sort
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  26,
• 5:56
  24
• 5:57
  maybe.
• 5:57
  So
• 5:58
  I
• 5:58
  decided
• 5:58
  that
• 6:00
  because
• 6:00
  I
• 6:00
  hadn't
• 6:00
  had
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  full
• 6:01
  time
• 6:01
  job
• 6:02
  before
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  was
• 6:02
  enjoying
• 6:03
  having,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:04
  know,
• 6:05
  X
• 6:05
  number
• 6:05
  of
• 6:05
  thousand
• 6:05
  pounds
• 6:06
  coming
• 6:06
  in
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  month,
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  need
• 6:07
  to
• 6:07
  get
• 6:07
  another
• 6:08
  job,
• 6:08
  you
• 6:08
  know,
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  quickly
• 6:10
  because
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  got
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  new
• 6:11
  car.
• 6:12
  Car
• 6:12
  because
• 6:12
  of
• 6:12
  things,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  know,
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  all
• 6:14
  these
• 6:14
  expenses
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  stuff.
• 6:15
  And
• 6:16
  so
• 6:16
  still
• 6:17
  living
• 6:17
  at
• 6:17
  home,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  I
• 6:18
  tried
• 6:19
  to
• 6:19
  just
• 6:20
  work
• 6:20
  out
• 6:20
  business
• 6:20
  on
• 6:20
  my
• 6:21
  own
• 6:21
  and
• 6:21
  work
• 6:21
  out
• 6:21
  what
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  wanted
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  do.
• 6:22
  There's
• 6:22
  no
• 6:23
  real
• 6:23
  kind
• 6:23
  of
• 6:24
  business
• 6:24
  plan
• 6:25
  in
• 6:25
  place
• 6:26
  but
• 6:26
  just
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  try
• 6:27
  and
• 6:28
  get
• 6:28
  as
• 6:28
  much
• 6:29
  bookings
• 6:29
  as
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  can
• 6:30
  and
• 6:30
  be
• 6:30
  seen
• 6:30
  as
• 6:30
  much
• 6:30
  as
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  can.
• 6:31
  And
• 6:31
  so
• 6:32
  over
• 6:32
  a
• 6:32
  few
• 6:33
  years,
• 6:33
  because
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  lot
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  people
• 6:34
  used
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  do
• 6:35
  advertising
• 6:36
  in
• 6:36
  magazines
• 6:36
  a
• 6:37
  lot
• 6:37
  more
• 6:37
  back
• 6:37
  then
• 6:38
  I
• 6:39
  would
• 6:39
  be
• 6:39
  seen
• 6:39
  everywhere.
• 6:40
  Everyone
• 6:40
  who
• 6:40
  would
• 6:41
  come
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  me
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  have
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  meeting
• 6:43
  would
• 6:43
  say,
• 6:43
  nick,
• 6:43
  we
• 6:44
  see
• 6:44
  your
• 6:44
  work
• 6:44
  everywhere.
• 6:45
  Because
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  was
• 6:45
  just
• 6:45
  blitzing
• 6:46
  it,
• 6:46
  but
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  was,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  was
• 6:47
  spending
• 6:48
  everything
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  was
• 6:48
  earning
• 6:49
  effectively
• 6:50
  rather
• 6:50
  than
• 6:50
  actually
• 6:51
  making
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  profit
• 6:52
  as
• 6:52
  such.
• 6:52
  Okay,
• 6:53
  well
• 6:53
  that
• 6:53
  brings
• 6:53
  me
• 6:53
  on
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  my
• 6:53
  next
• 6:54
  question
• 6:54
  then.
• 6:54
  Because
• 6:54
  when
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  speak
• 6:55
  with
• 6:55
  people
• 6:55
  who've
• 6:56
  been
• 6:56
  in
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  industry
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  long
• 6:57
  time,
• 6:57
  one
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  things
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  like
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  ask
• 6:58
  is
• 6:58
  about
• 6:58
  some
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  mistakes
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  made
• 7:00
  along
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  way.
• 7:01
  So
• 7:01
  it
• 7:01
  sounds
• 7:02
  like
• 7:02
  maybe
• 7:02
  one
• 7:02
  of
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  first
• 7:02
  mistakes
• 7:03
  you
• 7:03
  made
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  maybe
• 7:04
  not
• 7:04
  charging
• 7:04
  enough
• 7:04
  so
• 7:05
  that
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  weren't
• 7:05
  profitable.
• 7:06
  We
• 7:06
  see
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  a
• 7:07
  lot
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  our
• 7:07
  industry.
• 7:07
  When
• 7:08
  people
• 7:08
  come
• 7:08
  into
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  industry,
• 7:09
  they
• 7:09
  come
• 7:10
  in,
• 7:10
  they
• 7:10
  come
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  really
• 7:11
  cheap
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  get
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  work
• 7:12
  and
• 7:12
  then
• 7:12
  very
• 7:12
  quickly
• 7:13
  realize
• 7:13
  they're
• 7:14
  not
• 7:14
  actually
• 7:14
  making
• 7:15
  much
• 7:15
  money.
• 7:15
  So
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  one
• 7:16
  of
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  things?
• 7:17
  How
• 7:17
  long
• 7:17
  did
• 7:17
  it
• 7:17
  take
• 7:17
  you
• 7:18
  to
• 7:18
  learn
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  life
• 7:19
  lesson?
• 7:19
  Well,
• 7:19
  I
• 7:20
  was
• 7:20
  learning
• 7:20
  on
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  job,
• 7:20
  you
• 7:21
  know,
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  was
• 7:21
  learning
• 7:22
  photography
• 7:22
  on
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  job,
• 7:24
  charging
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  think
• 7:25
  £500
• 7:25
  a
• 7:26
  wedding,
• 7:27
  but
• 7:27
  because
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  was
• 7:27
  getting
• 7:28
  like
• 7:28
  10
• 7:28
  to
• 7:29
  15
• 7:29
  bookings
• 7:29
  a
• 7:30
  month
• 7:31
  and
• 7:32
  charging
• 7:32
  half
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  that
• 7:33
  up
• 7:33
  front
• 7:33
  I
• 7:33
  was
• 7:34
  earning
• 7:34
  really
• 7:34
  good
• 7:34
  money
• 7:35
  from
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  start
• 7:35
  but,
• 7:36
  but
• 7:36
  you
• 7:36
  only
• 7:37
  realize
• 7:37
  these
• 7:38
  things
• 7:38
  further
• 7:39
  down
• 7:39
  your
• 7:39
  career
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  think
• 7:40
  flip
• 7:40
  a
• 7:41
  neck.
• 7:41
  If
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  had
• 7:41
  doubled
• 7:41
  that
• 7:42
  back
• 7:42
  then,
• 7:43
  I
• 7:44
  be
• 7:44
  an
• 7:44
  okay
• 7:45
  during
• 7:45
  COVID
• 7:45
  you
• 7:46
  know,
• 7:46
  might
• 7:47
  actually
• 7:47
  have
• 7:47
  savings,
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  know.
• 7:49
  But
• 7:49
  it's,
• 7:50
  yeah,
• 7:50
  it's
• 7:50
  one
• 7:50
  of
• 7:50
  those
• 7:50
  things
• 7:51
  where
• 7:52
  as
• 7:53
  well
• 7:53
  as
• 7:53
  learning
• 7:53
  on
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  job
• 7:54
  with
• 7:54
  photography,
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  was,
• 7:55
  was
• 7:56
  learning
• 7:56
  business
• 7:56
  at
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  same
• 7:57
  time
• 7:57
  whilst
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  was
• 7:58
  working.
• 8:00
  I,
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  think
• 8:00
  I
• 8:01
  regret
• 8:02
  not
• 8:02
  speaking
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  someone
• 8:03
  about
• 8:03
  that,
• 8:04
  you
• 8:04
  know,
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  sort
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  say
• 8:05
  right,
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  want
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  set
• 8:06
  up
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  business
• 8:06
  doing
• 8:06
  photography,
• 8:07
  what
• 8:08
  do
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  need?
• 8:09
  So
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  didn't
• 8:09
  have
• 8:09
  an
• 8:09
  accountant
• 8:10
  for
• 8:10
  my
• 8:11
  first
• 8:11
  few
• 8:11
  years
• 8:11
  really
• 8:13
  working
• 8:13
  out
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  as
• 8:14
  a
• 8:15
  personal
• 8:15
  accountant
• 8:15
  which
• 8:15
  you
• 8:16
  to
• 8:16
  have
• 8:16
  a
• 8:16
  business
• 8:16
  account.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:17
  then
• 8:20
  I'm
• 8:20
  forgetting
• 8:21
  not
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  should
• 8:21
  have
• 8:21
  submitted
• 8:23
  details
• 8:23
  to
• 8:24
  HMRC
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  all
• 8:24
  those
• 8:25
  kind
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  things
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  think
• 8:25
  oh
• 8:25
  no.
• 8:26
  And
• 8:26
  then
• 8:26
  going
• 8:27
  back,
• 8:27
  having
• 8:27
  to
• 8:27
  go
• 8:27
  back
• 8:27
  and
• 8:28
  then
• 8:28
  doing
• 8:28
  that,
• 8:28
  thankfully
• 8:29
  it's
• 8:29
  all
• 8:29
  good,
• 8:29
  you
• 8:30
  know.
• 8:30
  But
• 8:31
  yeah,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  think
• 8:32
  I
• 8:33
  was
• 8:34
  amazed
• 8:34
  by
• 8:35
  other
• 8:35
  photographers
• 8:36
  seeing
• 8:37
  their
• 8:37
  caliber
• 8:37
  of
• 8:37
  work
• 8:38
  and
• 8:38
  just
• 8:38
  thinking
• 8:38
  flip
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  neck,
• 8:39
  how
• 8:39
  on
• 8:39
  earth
• 8:40
  do
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  get
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  level
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  they're
• 8:42
  producing
• 8:43
  and
• 8:43
  then
• 8:43
  seeing
• 8:43
  their
• 8:44
  pricing
• 8:44
  and
• 8:44
  thinking
• 8:44
  okay,
• 8:45
  wow,
• 8:45
  well
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  can
• 8:46
  understand
• 8:46
  why
• 8:47
  they're
• 8:47
  changing
• 8:48
  charging
• 8:48
  this
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  know,
• 8:50
  I
• 8:50
  need
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  sort
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  get
• 8:51
  up
• 8:51
  a
• 8:52
  little
• 8:52
  bit
• 8:52
  higher
• 8:52
  kind
• 8:52
  of
• 8:53
  thing.
• 8:53
  But
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  caliber
• 8:54
  of
• 8:54
  work
• 8:54
  wasn't
• 8:54
  there
• 8:54
  for
• 8:55
  me
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  be
• 8:55
  able
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  do
• 8:55
  that.
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  think
• 8:56
  you
• 8:57
  always
• 8:57
  need
• 8:57
  to
• 8:57
  justify
• 9:00
  your,
• 9:00
  your
• 9:00
  worth
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  a
• 9:01
  certain
• 9:01
  extent
• 9:02
  but
• 9:02
  also
• 9:02
  learn
• 9:03
  your
• 9:03
  worth
• 9:03
  as
• 9:03
  well
• 9:04
  so
• 9:05
  that,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  know,
• 9:05
  if
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  was
• 9:05
  still
• 9:05
  charging
• 9:06
  £500
• 9:07
  now,
• 9:07
  you
• 9:07
  know,
• 9:08
  people
• 9:08
  would
• 9:08
  say
• 9:08
  to
• 9:08
  me,
• 9:09
  why
• 9:09
  aren't
• 9:09
  you
• 9:10
  charging
• 9:11
  a
• 9:11
  lot
• 9:11
  more
• 9:11
  than
• 9:12
  that?
• 9:12
  You
• 9:12
  know.
• 9:12
  And
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  course,
• 9:13
  you
• 9:13
  know,
• 9:14
  you
• 9:14
  completely
• 9:14
  learn
• 9:15
  that
• 9:15
  now
• 9:15
  with
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  effort
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  do
• 9:17
  at
• 9:17
  weddings
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  also
• 9:18
  commercial
• 9:19
  work
• 9:19
  that
• 9:19
  I
• 9:19
  do
• 9:19
  as.
• 9:20
  So
• 9:21
  where,
• 9:21
  at
• 9:21
  what
• 9:21
  point
• 9:22
  did
• 9:23
  you
• 9:23
  feel
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  your
• 9:23
  work
• 9:24
  started
• 9:24
  to
• 9:24
  get
• 9:24
  to
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  higher
• 9:25
  caliber?
• 9:25
  Was
• 9:26
  it
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  invested
• 9:27
  in
• 9:27
  yourself
• 9:27
  and
• 9:28
  in
• 9:28
  some
• 9:28
  professional
• 9:29
  training?
• 9:29
  Did
• 9:30
  you
• 9:30
  just
• 9:30
  learn
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  develop
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  grow
• 9:31
  by
• 9:32
  shooting?
• 9:32
  Did
• 9:32
  you
• 9:33
  work
• 9:33
  alongside
• 9:33
  other
• 9:34
  photographers?
• 9:35
  What
• 9:35
  were
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  things
• 9:35
  that
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  felt
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  did
• 9:36
  that
• 9:37
  helped
• 9:37
  you
• 9:37
  get
• 9:37
  to
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  caliber
• 9:38
  where
• 9:39
  you
• 9:39
  sit
• 9:39
  today?
• 9:39
  So
• 9:40
  like
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  said,
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  was
• 9:40
  looking
• 9:40
  at
• 9:41
  different
• 9:41
  photographers
• 9:41
  work.
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  was
• 9:43
  back
• 9:43
  in
• 9:43
  the
• 9:44
  day
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  only
• 9:46
  one
• 9:46
  of,
• 9:46
  I
• 9:47
  don't
• 9:47
  know,
• 9:47
  20
• 9:48
  photographers
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  Dorset
• 9:49
  who
• 9:49
  really
• 9:50
  had
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  good
• 9:50
  name.
• 9:51
  And
• 9:52
  now
• 9:52
  that's
• 9:53
  obviously
• 9:53
  changed.
• 9:53
  You
• 9:53
  know,
• 9:53
  per
• 9:54
  county
• 9:55
  there's
• 9:55
  probably
• 9:55
  like
• 9:55
  5,000
• 9:56
  photographers,
• 9:57
  maybe
• 9:57
  not
• 9:57
  that
• 9:58
  many,
• 9:58
  but
• 9:58
  you
• 9:58
  know
• 9:58
  what
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  mean?
• 9:58
  It's
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  bit
• 9:59
  crazy
• 9:59
  now
• 10:00
  but
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  people
• 10:00
  that
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  were
• 10:01
  looking
• 10:02
  at,
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  know,
• 10:02
  I
• 10:03
  was
• 10:03
  Asking
• 10:03
  questions
• 10:04
  for
• 10:04
  them.
• 10:05
  And
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  think
• 10:05
  only
• 10:06
  like
• 10:06
  five
• 10:06
  years
• 10:07
  into
• 10:07
  things,
• 10:08
  even
• 10:08
  though
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  had
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  buy
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  load
• 10:09
  of
• 10:09
  kit,
• 10:10
  I
• 10:11
  then
• 10:11
  replaced
• 10:11
  a
• 10:12
  lot
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  my
• 10:12
  kit
• 10:12
  very
• 10:13
  swiftly
• 10:13
  after
• 10:14
  different
• 10:14
  photographers
• 10:15
  would
• 10:15
  sort
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  mention
• 10:15
  different
• 10:16
  things
• 10:16
  about
• 10:16
  my
• 10:16
  work.
• 10:17
  Complementary
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  not
• 10:19
  complementary
• 10:19
  in
• 10:19
  some
• 10:19
  instances,
• 10:20
  which
• 10:21
  was
• 10:21
  educational
• 10:22
  and
• 10:23
  fine.
• 10:23
  So
• 10:23
  I
• 10:23
  would
• 10:24
  change
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  prime
• 10:24
  lenses
• 10:26
  from
• 10:26
  a
• 10:26
  technical
• 10:27
  standpoint,
• 10:27
  letting
• 10:28
  in
• 10:28
  more
• 10:28
  light
• 10:29
  and
• 10:29
  being
• 10:29
  able
• 10:29
  to
• 10:30
  drop
• 10:31
  down
• 10:31
  F
• 10:31
  stops
• 10:32
  and
• 10:33
  not
• 10:33
  stay
• 10:33
  at
• 10:33
  kind
• 10:33
  of
• 10:34
  F4,
• 10:34
  F5
• 10:35
  for
• 10:35
  photographers
• 10:36
  listening,
• 10:37
  you
• 10:37
  know.
• 10:37
  And
• 10:37
  it
• 10:38
  just
• 10:38
  opened
• 10:38
  my
• 10:38
  world
• 10:39
  to
• 10:39
  how
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  was
• 10:40
  shooting,
• 10:41
  Shooting
• 10:42
  wide
• 10:42
  with
• 10:42
  different
• 10:43
  lenses
• 10:43
  and
• 10:44
  knowing
• 10:44
  more
• 10:44
  about
• 10:45
  kit
• 10:45
  and
• 10:46
  gear
• 10:46
  that
• 10:46
  could
• 10:47
  enhance
• 10:47
  my
• 10:47
  work.
• 10:48
  And
• 10:48
  then
• 10:49
  over
• 10:50
  a
• 10:50
  period
• 10:50
  of
• 10:50
  time,
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  would
• 10:51
  then
• 10:52
  see
• 10:52
  different
• 10:52
  people's
• 10:53
  work
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  had
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  style
• 10:54
  to
• 10:54
  them,
• 10:55
  where
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  was
• 10:55
  just
• 10:55
  editing
• 10:56
  pretty
• 10:57
  basically,
• 10:57
  really,
• 10:57
  but
• 10:58
  good
• 10:58
  enough
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  was
• 10:58
  happy
• 10:59
  with
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  work
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  I
• 11:00
  was
• 11:00
  producing.
• 11:01
  But
• 11:01
  I
• 11:02
  would
• 11:02
  see
• 11:02
  various
• 11:02
  different
• 11:02
  photographers
• 11:03
  work
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  just
• 11:03
  think,
• 11:04
  flipping
• 11:04
  heck,
• 11:05
  how
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  you
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  that?
• 11:06
  You
• 11:06
  know,
• 11:06
  I
• 11:07
  mean,
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  kind
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  had
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  technical
• 11:08
  skill
• 11:08
  there.
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  was
• 11:09
  learning
• 11:09
  things
• 11:09
  and
• 11:10
  getting
• 11:10
  things
• 11:10
  right.
• 11:11
  But
• 11:12
  some
• 11:12
  photographers
• 11:12
  will
• 11:12
  tell
• 11:13
  me,
• 11:13
  nick,
• 11:13
  we
• 11:13
  love
• 11:14
  your
• 11:14
  work
• 11:14
  and
• 11:15
  we
• 11:15
  like
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  sort
• 11:15
  of
• 11:15
  technical
• 11:16
  aspect
• 11:16
  of
• 11:17
  how
• 11:17
  you
• 11:17
  shoot.
• 11:18
  And
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  don't
• 11:19
  think
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  myself
• 11:19
  as
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  technical
• 11:20
  photographer
• 11:20
  at
• 11:20
  all.
• 11:21
  You
• 11:21
  know,
• 11:21
  I'm
• 11:21
  okay.
• 11:22
  I
• 11:22
  think
• 11:22
  if
• 11:22
  people
• 11:22
  ask
• 11:23
  me
• 11:23
  to
• 11:23
  explain
• 11:23
  things,
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  would
• 11:25
  explain
• 11:25
  them
• 11:26
  quite
• 11:26
  layman's
• 11:27
  terms
• 11:27
  because
• 11:28
  I.
• 11:28
  I
• 11:28
  haven't
• 11:28
  really
• 11:29
  been
• 11:29
  brought
• 11:30
  up
• 11:30
  with
• 11:30
  photography.
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  did,
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  studied
• 11:31
  advertising
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  marketing,
• 11:33
  actually,
• 11:33
  and
• 11:34
  part
• 11:34
  of
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  course
• 11:34
  was
• 11:36
  not
• 11:36
  photographing,
• 11:37
  but
• 11:37
  the
• 11:38
  history
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  photography,
• 11:39
  which
• 11:39
  was
• 11:39
  incredibly
• 11:40
  interesting.
• 11:42
  Robert
• 11:42
  Parr,
• 11:43
  the
• 11:44
  Magnum
• 11:44
  Film
• 11:44
  Agency,
• 11:46
  and
• 11:47
  all
• 11:47
  those
• 11:47
  guys
• 11:47
  who
• 11:47
  are
• 11:48
  amazing,
• 11:48
  like
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  war
• 11:49
  photographers.
• 11:51
  But.
• 11:52
  So
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  thought
• 11:53
  I
• 11:53
  need
• 11:53
  to
• 11:53
  be
• 11:53
  more
• 11:53
  active
• 11:54
  here
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  actually
• 11:54
  get.
• 11:55
  Invest
• 11:55
  in
• 11:56
  tuition,
• 11:57
  proper
• 11:57
  tuition
• 11:58
  in
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  wedding
• 11:59
  industry.
• 11:59
  Now
• 12:00
  I'm
• 12:00
  in
• 12:00
  the
• 12:00
  wedding
• 12:00
  industry.
• 12:01
  So
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  found
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  guy
• 12:03
  called
• 12:04
  Ross
• 12:04
  Harvey
• 12:05
  who
• 12:05
  I'm
• 12:06
  not
• 12:06
  sure
• 12:06
  is
• 12:06
  still
• 12:06
  shooting.
• 12:07
  Actually,
• 12:08
  this
• 12:08
  is
• 12:08
  just
• 12:08
  based
• 12:08
  off
• 12:09
  his
• 12:09
  Instagram
• 12:10
  not
• 12:10
  being
• 12:10
  too
• 12:10
  active.
• 12:11
  But
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  mean,
• 12:12
  he,
• 12:13
  you
• 12:13
  know,
• 12:13
  Maybe
• 12:14
  sort
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  10
• 12:14
  years
• 12:14
  ago
• 12:15
  was
• 12:16
  everyone's
• 12:16
  like,
• 12:17
  Ross
• 12:17
  Harvey
• 12:17
  Flippenick.
• 12:18
  His
• 12:18
  work
• 12:18
  is
• 12:18
  amazing
• 12:19
  and
• 12:19
  still
• 12:19
  is
• 12:20
  today,
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  know,
• 12:20
  And
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  thought,
• 12:21
  I
• 12:22
  wonder
• 12:22
  how
• 12:22
  much
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  would
• 12:23
  cost
• 12:23
  to
• 12:23
  actually
• 12:23
  go
• 12:23
  and
• 12:24
  see
• 12:24
  him
• 12:24
  and
• 12:24
  get
• 12:24
  some
• 12:24
  tuition
• 12:25
  from
• 12:25
  him.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:26
  he
• 12:26
  was
• 12:27
  very
• 12:27
  happy
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  come
• 12:28
  in
• 12:28
  for
• 12:28
  me
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  come
• 12:28
  and
• 12:29
  see
• 12:29
  him.
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  think
• 12:30
  he's
• 12:30
  like
• 12:31
  Norfolk
• 12:31
  kind
• 12:31
  of
• 12:32
  way
• 12:32
  where
• 12:32
  he
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  when
• 12:32
  I,
• 12:33
  when
• 12:33
  I
• 12:33
  met
• 12:33
  him.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  literally
• 12:34
  just,
• 12:35
  just
• 12:35
  went
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  his
• 12:36
  house
• 12:37
  and
• 12:37
  spent
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  whole
• 12:38
  day
• 12:38
  with
• 12:38
  him
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  shooting
• 12:39
  as
• 12:39
  well,
• 12:40
  practically,
• 12:41
  but
• 12:41
  also
• 12:41
  the
• 12:42
  editing,
• 12:42
  which
• 12:42
  is,
• 12:43
  if
• 12:43
  people
• 12:43
  don't
• 12:44
  know
• 12:45
  photographing
• 12:46
  and
• 12:46
  editing,
• 12:47
  Absolutely
• 12:47
  goes
• 12:48
  hand
• 12:48
  in
• 12:48
  hand.
• 12:49
  And
• 12:49
  if
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  can
• 12:49
  nail
• 12:50
  both,
• 12:51
  you're
• 12:51
  going
• 12:51
  to
• 12:51
  be
• 12:51
  one
• 12:51
  of
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  best
• 12:52
  photographers
• 12:52
  in
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  world.
• 12:53
  So
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  thought
• 12:54
  I
• 12:54
  need
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  get
• 12:54
  better.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  don't
• 12:56
  think
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  thought
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  want
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  get
• 12:57
  better
• 12:58
  so
• 12:58
  that
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  can
• 12:58
  charge
• 12:59
  more.
• 12:59
  I
• 12:59
  think
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  just
• 13:00
  wanted
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  get
• 13:01
  better
• 13:01
  and
• 13:02
  develop
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  better
• 13:03
  style.
• 13:04
  And
• 13:04
  so
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  was
• 13:06
  developing
• 13:06
  my.
• 13:06
  What
• 13:07
  was
• 13:07
  back
• 13:07
  then
• 13:07
  my
• 13:07
  preset
• 13:08
  within
• 13:09
  lightroom
• 13:09
  when
• 13:09
  I
• 13:10
  edit,
• 13:10
  so
• 13:10
  that
• 13:11
  when
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  imported
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  photographs,
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  would
• 13:13
  do
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  lot
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  work
• 13:14
  for
• 13:14
  me
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  then
• 13:14
  I
• 13:14
  would
• 13:14
  just
• 13:15
  tweak
• 13:15
  different,
• 13:15
  different
• 13:15
  things.
• 13:17
  And
• 13:17
  I
• 13:18
  just
• 13:18
  tried
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  shoot
• 13:20
  more
• 13:20
  in
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  way
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  he
• 13:21
  describes
• 13:23
  using
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  sun
• 13:23
  more,
• 13:24
  using
• 13:24
  shadows
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  light
• 13:26
  and
• 13:26
  then
• 13:26
  incorporating
• 13:26
  that
• 13:27
  into
• 13:27
  my
• 13:27
  work.
• 13:28
  And,
• 13:29
  you
• 13:29
  know,
• 13:29
  soon,
• 13:29
  soon
• 13:30
  enough
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  was
• 13:31
  doing
• 13:31
  more
• 13:32
  kind
• 13:32
  of
• 13:32
  flash
• 13:33
  work
• 13:33
  as
• 13:33
  well.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:34
  people,
• 13:35
  especially
• 13:35
  locally,
• 13:36
  more
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  Dorset
• 13:37
  and
• 13:37
  Bournemouth,
• 13:37
  which
• 13:37
  I
• 13:37
  was
• 13:38
  focusing
• 13:38
  on
• 13:39
  then,
• 13:40
  really
• 13:41
  started
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  see
• 13:42
  a
• 13:42
  style
• 13:42
  from
• 13:42
  me
• 13:43
  rather
• 13:43
  than
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  general
• 13:45
  kind
• 13:45
  of
• 13:45
  work.
• 13:47
  And
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  kind
• 13:47
  of
• 13:48
  happened
• 13:48
  over
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  few
• 13:49
  years.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:51
  then
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  came
• 13:51
  across
• 13:52
  someone
• 13:53
  that
• 13:53
  a
• 13:54
  lot
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  photographers
• 13:54
  will
• 13:54
  know
• 13:55
  called
• 13:55
  Sam
• 13:55
  Heard,
• 13:56
  who's
• 13:57
  based
• 13:57
  out
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  D.C.
• 13:58
  in
• 13:58
  America.
• 13:59
  And
• 13:59
  he's
• 13:59
  probably
• 14:00
  one
• 14:00
  of
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  most
• 14:01
  creative
• 14:02
  photographers.
• 14:03
  And
• 14:03
  especially
• 14:03
  when
• 14:03
  you
• 14:04
  talk
• 14:04
  about
• 14:05
  photographers
• 14:05
  to
• 14:06
  follow
• 14:06
  and
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  get
• 14:07
  tuition
• 14:08
  from,
• 14:08
  who
• 14:08
  actively
• 14:10
  gives
• 14:10
  tuition
• 14:11
  out
• 14:11
  there?
• 14:11
  And
• 14:11
  even
• 14:12
  just
• 14:12
  like
• 14:12
  small,
• 14:13
  minute
• 14:14
  things
• 14:14
  about
• 14:14
  a
• 14:14
  lens
• 14:15
  he
• 14:15
  might
• 14:15
  post
• 14:16
  about
• 14:16
  and
• 14:16
  you'd
• 14:17
  be
• 14:17
  like,
• 14:17
  oh,
• 14:17
  okay,
• 14:17
  so
• 14:17
  you'd
• 14:18
  go
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  him
• 14:19
  about
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  next
• 14:20
  lenses
• 14:20
  coming
• 14:20
  out.
• 14:21
  Has
• 14:21
  Sam
• 14:22
  tested
• 14:22
  these
• 14:22
  lenses?
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  want
• 14:23
  to
• 14:23
  see
• 14:23
  him
• 14:24
  test
• 14:24
  it
• 14:24
  in
• 14:25
  real
• 14:25
  time.
• 14:26
  Shooting
• 14:26
  over
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  number
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  weddings
• 14:27
  before
• 14:27
  I
• 14:27
  purchased
• 14:28
  that.
• 14:29
  Very,
• 14:29
  very
• 14:30
  different
• 14:30
  from
• 14:31
  thinking
• 14:31
  what
• 14:31
  Wex
• 14:32
  or
• 14:33
  any
• 14:33
  other
• 14:34
  camera
• 14:34
  store
• 14:34
  is
• 14:34
  sort
• 14:34
  of
• 14:35
  saying.
• 14:35
  And
• 14:36
  at
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  same
• 14:36
  time
• 14:37
  as
• 14:38
  seeing.
• 14:39
  Seeing
• 14:39
  him
• 14:39
  and
• 14:40
  what
• 14:40
  he
• 14:40
  has
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  say
• 14:41
  was
• 14:41
  looking
• 14:41
  at
• 14:42
  his
• 14:42
  work
• 14:42
  and
• 14:42
  how
• 14:42
  he
• 14:43
  edits
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  how
• 14:44
  he
• 14:44
  shoots,
• 14:45
  and
• 14:46
  because
• 14:46
  he's
• 14:47
  shooting
• 14:47
  even
• 14:47
  more
• 14:47
  creatively
• 14:48
  than
• 14:48
  Ross
• 14:48
  did,
• 14:49
  it
• 14:49
  blew
• 14:49
  my
• 14:50
  mind.
• 14:50
  Think
• 14:51
  well,
• 14:52
  well,
• 14:52
  firstly,
• 14:53
  oh,
• 14:53
  you
• 14:53
  can
• 14:53
  create.
• 14:54
  You
• 14:54
  can
• 14:54
  be
• 14:54
  creative
• 14:55
  for
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  wedding.
• 14:55
  You
• 14:56
  know,
• 14:56
  I
• 14:56
  think
• 14:56
  we're
• 14:57
  so
• 14:57
  used
• 14:58
  to
• 14:58
  a
• 14:58
  society
• 14:58
  that
• 14:59
  a
• 14:59
  wedding
• 14:59
  should
• 14:59
  be
• 14:59
  very.
• 15:00
  Look
• 15:00
  very
• 15:01
  weddingy
• 15:01
  and
• 15:02
  very
• 15:02
  nice
• 15:02
  and
• 15:02
  all
• 15:03
  this.
• 15:03
  And
• 15:03
  actually
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  can
• 15:04
  be
• 15:04
  creative
• 15:05
  with
• 15:05
  it
• 15:05
  as
• 15:05
  well
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  actually
• 15:07
  have
• 15:07
  more
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  niche.
• 15:09
  So
• 15:09
  I
• 15:09
  started
• 15:10
  going
• 15:10
  down
• 15:10
  that
• 15:10
  kind
• 15:11
  of
• 15:11
  route,
• 15:11
  shooting
• 15:12
  much
• 15:12
  more
• 15:13
  creatively
• 15:14
  and
• 15:14
  thinking
• 15:15
  outside
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  box.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:16
  both
• 15:16
  him
• 15:17
  and
• 15:17
  Ross
• 15:19
  helped
• 15:19
  me
• 15:19
  to
• 15:20
  think
• 15:20
  outside
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  box
• 15:20
  more
• 15:21
  in
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  venues
• 15:22
  that
• 15:22
  I've
• 15:22
  done
• 15:22
  a
• 15:22
  million
• 15:23
  times.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:24
  so
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  kind
• 15:24
  of
• 15:24
  made
• 15:25
  myself
• 15:26
  not
• 15:26
  do
• 15:27
  those
• 15:28
  obvious
• 15:28
  locations
• 15:29
  that
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  would
• 15:30
  think
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  at
• 15:31
  most
• 15:31
  wedding
• 15:31
  venues
• 15:32
  that
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  go
• 15:32
  to.
• 15:33
  So
• 15:33
  say
• 15:34
  a
• 15:34
  barn,
• 15:34
  you
• 15:35
  might
• 15:35
  want
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  Go
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  a
• 15:35
  field
• 15:36
  for
• 15:36
  golden
• 15:36
  hour,
• 15:37
  you
• 15:38
  might
• 15:38
  want
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  go
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  some
• 15:39
  steps
• 15:39
  and
• 15:39
  all
• 15:39
  those
• 15:39
  kind
• 15:40
  of
• 15:40
  things
• 15:40
  where
• 15:41
  they
• 15:41
  would
• 15:41
  say,
• 15:42
  don't
• 15:42
  go
• 15:42
  there.
• 15:43
  Don't
• 15:43
  deliberately
• 15:43
  don't
• 15:44
  go
• 15:44
  there,
• 15:44
  because
• 15:44
  every
• 15:44
  other
• 15:45
  photographer
• 15:45
  is
• 15:46
  going
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  do
• 15:46
  that.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:47
  that
• 15:47
  doesn't
• 15:48
  make
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  think
• 15:48
  outside
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  box.
• 15:49
  Makes
• 15:49
  you
• 15:50
  think
• 15:50
  outside
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  box
• 15:51
  is
• 15:51
  think
• 15:51
  about
• 15:52
  more
• 15:52
  about
• 15:53
  light
• 15:53
  and
• 15:54
  how
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  light
• 15:55
  is
• 15:55
  affecting
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  environment
• 15:56
  and
• 15:57
  what
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  light
• 15:58
  looks
• 15:58
  like
• 15:59
  on
• 16:00
  subject
• 16:00
  matter
• 16:00
  as
• 16:01
  well.
• 16:01
  So
• 16:01
  I
• 16:02
  started
• 16:02
  thinking
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  lot
• 16:02
  more
• 16:02
  out
• 16:03
  of
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  box.
• 16:03
  And
• 16:04
  then
• 16:04
  my
• 16:04
  creativity
• 16:05
  was
• 16:06
  a
• 16:06
  lot
• 16:07
  higher
• 16:08
  than
• 16:08
  it
• 16:08
  used
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  be,
• 16:09
  and
• 16:09
  couples
• 16:10
  started
• 16:10
  seeing
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  as
• 16:10
  well.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:11
  actually,
• 16:11
  I
• 16:12
  don't
• 16:12
  think
• 16:12
  many
• 16:13
  photographers
• 16:13
  stay
• 16:14
  in
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  same
• 16:14
  lane.
• 16:15
  They
• 16:15
  do
• 16:15
  evolve,
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  I'm
• 16:16
  kind
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  very
• 16:16
  glad
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  did
• 16:17
  evolve
• 16:18
  and
• 16:18
  found
• 16:19
  them
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  sort
• 16:19
  of
• 16:20
  not
• 16:20
  mimic
• 16:20
  their
• 16:20
  work,
• 16:21
  because
• 16:21
  I'm
• 16:21
  still
• 16:22
  no
• 16:22
  way
• 16:22
  up
• 16:23
  near
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  caliber
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  they.
• 16:25
  The
• 16:25
  creative
• 16:25
  minds
• 16:26
  that
• 16:26
  they
• 16:26
  have.
• 16:27
  But
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  love
• 16:27
  tapping
• 16:28
  into
• 16:28
  that.
• 16:28
  That
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  addition
• 16:30
  to
• 16:31
  capturing
• 16:31
  natural
• 16:32
  moments
• 16:33
  and
• 16:33
  capturing
• 16:33
  color
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  in
• 16:34
  color
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  environments
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  things
• 16:35
  as
• 16:36
  well,
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  love
• 16:36
  that.
• 16:36
  I
• 16:37
  think
• 16:37
  there's
• 16:37
  two
• 16:37
  really
• 16:37
  key
• 16:38
  messages
• 16:38
  that
• 16:39
  are
• 16:39
  coming
• 16:39
  out
• 16:39
  from
• 16:39
  your
• 16:39
  story
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  from
• 16:40
  what
• 16:40
  you're
• 16:40
  saying.
• 16:41
  Number
• 16:41
  one
• 16:41
  is
• 16:42
  having
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  heart
• 16:43
  of
• 16:43
  humility.
• 16:44
  So
• 16:44
  being
• 16:44
  willing
• 16:45
  to
• 16:45
  continue
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  learn,
• 16:47
  willing
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  have
• 16:47
  someone
• 16:48
  critique
• 16:48
  your
• 16:48
  work,
• 16:48
  being
• 16:49
  willing
• 16:49
  to
• 16:49
  go
• 16:49
  to
• 16:50
  someone
• 16:50
  and
• 16:50
  ask
• 16:50
  for
• 16:50
  help.
• 16:51
  I
• 16:51
  think
• 16:51
  sometimes
• 16:52
  as
• 16:52
  people,
• 16:52
  we
• 16:53
  can
• 16:53
  be
• 16:53
  too
• 16:53
  proud
• 16:53
  to
• 16:54
  do
• 16:54
  that,
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  it
• 16:54
  can
• 16:54
  hold
• 16:54
  us
• 16:55
  back.
• 16:55
  And
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  think
• 16:55
  that's
• 16:56
  definitely
• 16:56
  something
• 16:56
  people
• 16:57
  need
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  do.
• 16:57
  I
• 16:58
  think
• 16:58
  one
• 16:58
  of
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  biggest
• 16:59
  things
• 16:59
  is
• 16:59
  to
• 17:00
  ask
• 17:00
  for
• 17:00
  help.
• 17:00
  I
• 17:01
  don't
• 17:01
  know
• 17:01
  many
• 17:01
  photographers
• 17:02
  who
• 17:03
  haven't,
• 17:04
  but
• 17:04
  I
• 17:04
  would
• 17:05
  sense
• 17:05
  that's
• 17:06
  more
• 17:06
  going
• 17:06
  down
• 17:06
  an
• 17:06
  ego
• 17:07
  route,
• 17:07
  really.
• 17:08
  Oh,
• 17:08
  I
• 17:08
  don't
• 17:08
  need
• 17:08
  any
• 17:09
  help.
• 17:09
  You
• 17:09
  know,
• 17:09
  I'm
• 17:09
  very
• 17:10
  good
• 17:10
  as
• 17:10
  I
• 17:10
  am.
• 17:11
  I
• 17:12
  think
• 17:12
  I've
• 17:12
  never
• 17:12
  been
• 17:12
  in
• 17:13
  that
• 17:13
  kind
• 17:13
  of
• 17:14
  head
• 17:14
  space,
• 17:14
  really.
• 17:16
  The
• 17:16
  fact
• 17:16
  that
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  looked
• 17:17
  at
• 17:17
  other
• 17:17
  people's
• 17:17
  work
• 17:17
  to
• 17:18
  say,
• 17:18
  philippine,
• 17:18
  these
• 17:19
  guys
• 17:19
  are
• 17:19
  amazing.
• 17:20
  How
• 17:20
  are
• 17:20
  they
• 17:20
  doing
• 17:20
  that?
• 17:21
  You
• 17:21
  know,
• 17:21
  made
• 17:22
  me
• 17:22
  push.
• 17:22
  I
• 17:23
  need
• 17:23
  some
• 17:23
  more
• 17:23
  tuition.
• 17:25
  Whereas
• 17:25
  now
• 17:25
  I'm.
• 17:26
  I'm
• 17:26
  in
• 17:26
  a
• 17:26
  nice
• 17:27
  groove.
• 17:28
  I'm
• 17:28
  not
• 17:28
  saying
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  don't
• 17:29
  need
• 17:29
  tuition.
• 17:29
  There's
• 17:30
  plenty
• 17:30
  of
• 17:30
  things
• 17:30
  I
• 17:30
  want
• 17:30
  to
• 17:31
  correct
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  get
• 17:32
  even
• 17:32
  better.
• 17:33
  But
• 17:34
  there's,
• 17:36
  you
• 17:36
  know,
• 17:36
  after
• 17:36
  17
• 17:37
  years,
• 17:37
  I'm
• 17:38
  very
• 17:38
  comfortable
• 17:39
  in
• 17:39
  terms
• 17:39
  of
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  caliber
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  work
• 17:41
  that
• 17:42
  I'm
• 17:42
  producing
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  the
• 17:43
  way
• 17:43
  that
• 17:44
  I'm
• 17:44
  doing
• 17:44
  it,
• 17:45
  you
• 17:45
  know,
• 17:45
  And
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  think
• 17:46
  I
• 17:47
  know
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  that
• 17:48
  then
• 17:48
  has
• 17:48
  worth
• 17:49
  and
• 17:49
  value
• 17:50
  now.
• 17:50
  Whereas
• 17:51
  back
• 17:51
  then,
• 17:51
  I
• 17:52
  wasn't
• 17:52
  even
• 17:52
  thinking
• 17:53
  about
• 17:53
  worth
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  value
• 17:55
  or
• 17:56
  to.
• 17:56
  Or
• 17:56
  maybe
• 17:57
  even
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  be
• 17:57
  successful,
• 17:58
  you
• 17:58
  know,
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  don't
• 17:59
  Think
• 17:59
  that
• 17:59
  was
• 18:00
  even
• 18:00
  on
• 18:00
  my
• 18:00
  mind.
• 18:00
  But
• 18:01
  these
• 18:01
  days,
• 18:02
  because
• 18:02
  there's
• 18:02
  probably
• 18:02
  more
• 18:03
  competition
• 18:03
  than
• 18:03
  there
• 18:03
  ever
• 18:03
  was,
• 18:05
  you
• 18:05
  know,
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  want
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  still
• 18:06
  be
• 18:06
  successful,
• 18:07
  but
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  don't
• 18:08
  want
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  give
• 18:08
  people
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  same
• 18:09
  old.
• 18:10
  Because
• 18:10
  now.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:11
  now
• 18:11
  I've
• 18:11
  done
• 18:11
  that
• 18:12
  for
• 18:12
  17
• 18:12
  years.
• 18:13
  That's
• 18:13
  boring.
• 18:14
  You
• 18:14
  know,
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  can
• 18:15
  book
• 18:15
  so
• 18:15
  many
• 18:15
  different
• 18:16
  photographers
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  are
• 18:16
  just
• 18:17
  going
• 18:17
  to
• 18:17
  book.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  was
• 18:18
  just
• 18:18
  going
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  shoot
• 18:20
  fairly,
• 18:20
  basically,
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  I
• 18:21
  want
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  give
• 18:21
  them
• 18:22
  better
• 18:22
  than
• 18:22
  basic,
• 18:23
  you
• 18:23
  know,
• 18:23
  because
• 18:23
  I
• 18:24
  can
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  because
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  want
• 18:25
  to.
• 18:26
  And
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  don't
• 18:26
  want
• 18:26
  to
• 18:26
  be
• 18:26
  seen
• 18:27
  as
• 18:27
  just
• 18:27
  another
• 18:28
  photographer,
• 18:28
  because
• 18:28
  I
• 18:29
  think
• 18:29
  then
• 18:30
  would
• 18:30
  then
• 18:30
  give
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  question
• 18:31
  of
• 18:32
  why
• 18:32
  is
• 18:32
  anyone
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  book
• 18:33
  me
• 18:34
  if
• 18:34
  I'm
• 18:34
  just
• 18:34
  another
• 18:34
  photographer?
• 18:35
  It
• 18:36
  was
• 18:36
  actually
• 18:36
  Kelly
• 18:37
  Mortimer,
• 18:37
  who
• 18:38
  you've
• 18:38
  had
• 18:38
  in
• 18:38
  here
• 18:38
  before,
• 18:38
  who
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  know
• 18:39
  very
• 18:39
  well,
• 18:41
  who
• 18:41
  sort
• 18:42
  of
• 18:42
  said
• 18:42
  to
• 18:42
  me,
• 18:42
  never
• 18:43
  price
• 18:44
  by
• 18:44
  looking
• 18:45
  at
• 18:45
  other
• 18:45
  photographers
• 18:46
  pricing
• 18:48
  for
• 18:48
  the
• 18:48
  reason
• 18:48
  being
• 18:49
  when
• 18:49
  you
• 18:49
  do
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  from
• 18:50
  a
• 18:51
  average
• 18:52
  photographer
• 18:52
  pricing
• 18:53
  or
• 18:53
  maybe
• 18:53
  even
• 18:54
  above
• 18:54
  average,
• 18:54
  which
• 18:54
  I
• 18:55
  think
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  planned
• 18:56
  in,
• 18:57
  what
• 18:57
  a
• 18:57
  lot
• 18:57
  of
• 18:58
  photographers
• 18:58
  do
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  they'll
• 18:59
  shoot
• 18:59
  quite
• 18:59
  similarly
• 19:01
  and
• 19:01
  because
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  that
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  charge
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  same
• 19:03
  kind
• 19:04
  of
• 19:04
  amount.
• 19:05
  If
• 19:05
  you
• 19:05
  imagine
• 19:06
  yourself
• 19:06
  as
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  client,
• 19:07
  you're
• 19:07
  just
• 19:07
  looking
• 19:07
  at
• 19:08
  thinking,
• 19:08
  everyone's
• 19:09
  shooting
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  same.
• 19:10
  It
• 19:10
  looks
• 19:10
  all
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  same
• 19:10
  to
• 19:11
  me
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  they're
• 19:12
  all
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  same
• 19:12
  price.
• 19:13
  How
• 19:13
  on
• 19:13
  earth
• 19:14
  do
• 19:14
  I
• 19:15
  make
• 19:15
  a
• 19:15
  decision
• 19:15
  about
• 19:15
  who
• 19:16
  just
• 19:16
  booked
• 19:16
  for
• 19:16
  my
• 19:16
  wedding?
• 19:17
  Because
• 19:17
  it's
• 19:18
  not
• 19:18
  really
• 19:18
  based
• 19:18
  on
• 19:18
  price,
• 19:18
  it's
• 19:19
  not
• 19:19
  really
• 19:19
  based
• 19:19
  on
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  photography,
• 19:20
  because
• 19:20
  it
• 19:20
  all
• 19:21
  looks
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  same.
• 19:21
  And
• 19:22
  so
• 19:22
  that's
• 19:22
  where
• 19:22
  she
• 19:22
  would
• 19:23
  say
• 19:23
  things
• 19:23
  like,
• 19:24
  well,
• 19:24
  you
• 19:24
  need
• 19:24
  to
• 19:25
  be
• 19:25
  a
• 19:25
  bit
• 19:25
  more
• 19:25
  niche
• 19:26
  and
• 19:27
  if
• 19:27
  you
• 19:27
  add
• 19:27
  more
• 19:27
  value
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  what
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  do
• 19:30
  and
• 19:31
  people
• 19:31
  can
• 19:31
  absolutely
• 19:31
  see
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  difference,
• 19:33
  they're
• 19:33
  willing
• 19:33
  to
• 19:33
  pay
• 19:34
  more.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  so
• 19:36
  most
• 19:36
  weddings
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  I've
• 19:37
  been
• 19:37
  doing
• 19:37
  over
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  last
• 19:38
  five,
• 19:38
  six
• 19:38
  years
• 19:39
  have
• 19:39
  been
• 19:39
  12
• 19:40
  plus
• 19:40
  hours,
• 19:40
  whereas
• 19:41
  most
• 19:41
  of
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  photographers
• 19:41
  that
• 19:41
  I
• 19:42
  know,
• 19:42
  they're
• 19:42
  doing
• 19:43
  only
• 19:43
  10,
• 19:44
  maybe
• 19:44
  eight,
• 19:45
  sometimes
• 19:45
  up
• 19:46
  to
• 19:46
  12.
• 19:46
  And
• 19:47
  that's
• 19:47
  become
• 19:47
  quite
• 19:47
  alien
• 19:48
  to
• 19:48
  me.
• 19:49
  And
• 19:49
  especially
• 19:50
  doing
• 19:50
  more
• 19:50
  multicultural
• 19:51
  weddings,
• 19:51
  where
• 19:51
  it's
• 19:51
  more
• 19:51
  Indian
• 19:52
  weddings,
• 19:52
  the
• 19:53
  expectation
• 19:53
  is
• 19:54
  so
• 19:54
  much
• 19:54
  higher.
• 19:55
  And
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  expectation
• 19:56
  is,
• 19:57
  oh,
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  work
• 19:57
  from
• 19:57
  7am
• 19:58
  till
• 19:58
  midnight,
• 19:58
  won't
• 19:59
  you?
• 19:59
  And
• 20:00
  be
• 20:00
  like,
• 20:00
  oh,
• 20:01
  yes,
• 20:02
  yes,
• 20:02
  I
• 20:02
  can.
• 20:02
  Yeah.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:03
  then
• 20:03
  soon
• 20:04
  doing
• 20:04
  a
• 20:04
  few
• 20:04
  Indian
• 20:04
  weddings,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  kind
• 20:05
  of
• 20:05
  think,
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  need
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  start
• 20:06
  charging
• 20:07
  more
• 20:07
  for
• 20:07
  this.
• 20:07
  Because
• 20:08
  it's
• 20:08
  a
• 20:08
  lot
• 20:08
  of
• 20:09
  work
• 20:09
  doing
• 20:09
  that,
• 20:09
  you
• 20:10
  know,
• 20:10
  if
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  think
• 20:10
  12
• 20:10
  hours
• 20:10
  is
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  lot
• 20:11
  of
• 20:11
  work,
• 20:11
  you
• 20:12
  know,
• 20:12
  15
• 20:12
  to
• 20:13
  17
• 20:13
  hours
• 20:13
  is
• 20:14
  another
• 20:14
  level,
• 20:15
  you
• 20:15
  know,
• 20:16
  stamina
• 20:16
  and
• 20:17
  just
• 20:17
  still
• 20:17
  being
• 20:18
  on
• 20:18
  top
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  things,
• 20:18
  you
• 20:19
  know.
• 20:19
  Yeah,
• 20:19
  amazing.
• 20:20
  Well,
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  actually
• 20:20
  brings
• 20:20
  me
• 20:21
  on
• 20:21
  to
• 20:21
  my
• 20:21
  next
• 20:21
  question
• 20:21
  as
• 20:22
  well,
• 20:22
  because
• 20:22
  for
• 20:23
  people
• 20:23
  who
• 20:23
  Are
• 20:23
  listening
• 20:24
  and
• 20:24
  maybe
• 20:25
  haven't
• 20:25
  seen
• 20:25
  any
• 20:25
  clips
• 20:26
  of
• 20:26
  this
• 20:26
  conversation.
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  would
• 20:28
  best
• 20:28
  describe
• 20:28
  you
• 20:28
  as
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  British
• 20:29
  white
• 20:29
  male,
• 20:30
  but
• 20:30
  in
• 20:31
  your
• 20:31
  description,
• 20:31
  you
• 20:31
  talk
• 20:32
  about
• 20:32
  how
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  are
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  multicultural
• 20:34
  wedding
• 20:34
  photographer.
• 20:34
  You
• 20:34
  shoot
• 20:35
  a
• 20:35
  lot
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  multicultural
• 20:35
  weddings.
• 20:36
  So
• 20:37
  how
• 20:37
  did
• 20:37
  that
• 20:38
  come
• 20:38
  about?
• 20:38
  How
• 20:38
  did
• 20:38
  you
• 20:39
  break
• 20:39
  into
• 20:40
  that
• 20:40
  market
• 20:40
  as
• 20:41
  a
• 20:41
  British
• 20:41
  white
• 20:41
  male?
• 20:42
  And
• 20:43
  how
• 20:43
  have
• 20:44
  you.
• 20:44
  What
• 20:45
  do
• 20:45
  you.
• 20:45
  What
• 20:45
  do
• 20:45
  you
• 20:46
  like
• 20:46
  about
• 20:46
  working
• 20:46
  in
• 20:47
  that
• 20:47
  space?
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  will
• 20:48
  tell
• 20:48
  you
• 20:49
  a
• 20:49
  small
• 20:50
  industry
• 20:50
  secret
• 20:52
  and
• 20:52
  about
• 20:53
  me
• 20:53
  as
• 20:53
  well.
• 20:54
  So
• 20:55
  through
• 20:55
  Covid,
• 20:56
  I
• 20:57
  think
• 20:57
  I
• 20:57
  already
• 20:57
  had
• 20:58
  about
• 20:58
  eight,
• 20:59
  about
• 20:59
  8,000
• 21:00
  followers.
• 21:01
  Just
• 21:01
  through
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  years,
• 21:02
  adding
• 21:03
  people
• 21:03
  and
• 21:04
  then
• 21:04
  finding
• 21:05
  me
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  following
• 21:05
  me.
• 21:06
  I've
• 21:06
  been
• 21:07
  incredibly
• 21:08
  blessed
• 21:08
  by
• 21:08
  photographers
• 21:09
  messaging
• 21:09
  me
• 21:10
  saying,
• 21:10
  nick,
• 21:10
  we
• 21:11
  love
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  work.
• 21:11
  We
• 21:11
  love
• 21:11
  how
• 21:12
  you
• 21:12
  do
• 21:12
  this,
• 21:12
  this,
• 21:12
  this
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  this.
• 21:13
  And
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  was
• 21:13
  like,
• 21:13
  oh,
• 21:14
  wow,
• 21:14
  that's.
• 21:15
  That's
• 21:15
  a.
• 21:16
  It's
• 21:16
  so
• 21:16
  nice
• 21:17
  when
• 21:17
  photographers
• 21:17
  say
• 21:18
  that,
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  know,
• 21:19
  that
• 21:19
  they.
• 21:19
  They
• 21:20
  wish
• 21:20
  they
• 21:20
  could
• 21:21
  shoot
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  way
• 21:21
  that
• 21:21
  I
• 21:21
  do,
• 21:22
  because
• 21:22
  it
• 21:22
  means
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  I've
• 21:22
  obviously
• 21:22
  learned
• 21:23
  something
• 21:23
  through
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  years
• 21:24
  and
• 21:24
  doing
• 21:24
  an
• 21:25
  all
• 21:25
  right
• 21:25
  job,
• 21:26
  you
• 21:26
  know,
• 21:26
  rather
• 21:26
  than
• 21:28
  clients
• 21:28
  giving
• 21:29
  testimonials,
• 21:29
  you
• 21:30
  know,
• 21:30
  and
• 21:30
  things
• 21:30
  like
• 21:30
  that.
• 21:31
  But
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  think
• 21:31
  it
• 21:31
  was
• 21:32
  through
• 21:32
  Covid,
• 21:32
  where
• 21:33
  we
• 21:34
  had
• 21:34
  loads
• 21:34
  of
• 21:34
  time,
• 21:34
  you
• 21:35
  know,
• 21:35
  I
• 21:35
  don't
• 21:35
  know
• 21:35
  about
• 21:35
  you,
• 21:36
  but
• 21:37
  we
• 21:37
  had
• 21:38
  loads
• 21:38
  of
• 21:38
  time.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  was
• 21:38
  adding
• 21:39
  lots
• 21:39
  of
• 21:39
  different
• 21:39
  people,
• 21:40
  following
• 21:40
  them
• 21:41
  on
• 21:41
  Instagram,
• 21:43
  following
• 21:43
  different
• 21:44
  venues
• 21:44
  they
• 21:45
  were
• 21:45
  following
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  liking
• 21:46
  and
• 21:47
  on
• 21:47
  posts
• 21:47
  and
• 21:47
  things
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  type
• 21:49
  of
• 21:49
  venues
• 21:49
  that
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  want
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  shoot
• 21:50
  at
• 21:50
  as
• 21:50
  well.
• 21:51
  So
• 21:51
  hopefully
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  would
• 21:52
  become
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  type
• 21:53
  of
• 21:53
  bride
• 21:54
  that
• 21:54
  would
• 21:55
  book
• 21:55
  me.
• 21:56
  So
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  started
• 21:57
  adding
• 21:57
  loads
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  then
• 21:58
  loads
• 21:58
  more
• 21:58
  people
• 21:59
  would
• 21:59
  see
• 21:59
  my
• 21:59
  work
• 21:59
  as
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  was
• 22:00
  posting,
• 22:00
  posting
• 22:01
  a
• 22:01
  heck
• 22:01
  of
• 22:01
  a
• 22:01
  load
• 22:01
  more
• 22:02
  than
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  am
• 22:02
  these
• 22:02
  days
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  be
• 22:04
  seen.
• 22:04
  So
• 22:04
  that
• 22:05
  hopefully
• 22:05
  after
• 22:05
  Covid,
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  know,
• 22:07
  we
• 22:07
  could
• 22:07
  actually
• 22:08
  go
• 22:08
  back
• 22:08
  to
• 22:08
  work.
• 22:08
  And
• 22:09
  people
• 22:09
  have
• 22:09
  already
• 22:09
  heard
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  our
• 22:10
  name
• 22:11
  and
• 22:11
  the
• 22:12
  likes
• 22:12
  and
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  follows
• 22:13
  seem
• 22:13
  to
• 22:14
  go
• 22:14
  up
• 22:14
  quite
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  lot.
• 22:15
  But
• 22:16
  because
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  was
• 22:17
  shooting
• 22:18
  a
• 22:18
  lot
• 22:18
  more
• 22:18
  creatively
• 22:19
  as
• 22:19
  well
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  loving
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  use
• 22:21
  of
• 22:21
  color
• 22:22
  a
• 22:22
  lot
• 22:22
  more,
• 22:23
  it
• 22:23
  would
• 22:23
  seem
• 22:23
  that
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  more
• 22:25
  diverse
• 22:26
  and
• 22:26
  multicultural
• 22:26
  couple
• 22:28
  were
• 22:28
  seeing
• 22:28
  my
• 22:28
  work.
• 22:29
  I
• 22:29
  couldn't
• 22:29
  tell
• 22:30
  you
• 22:30
  exactly
• 22:30
  that.
• 22:30
  It
• 22:30
  was
• 22:31
  always
• 22:31
  all
• 22:31
  through
• 22:31
  Instagram.
• 22:32
  I
• 22:32
  think
• 22:33
  it
• 22:33
  was
• 22:33
  through
• 22:33
  other
• 22:33
  ways
• 22:33
  as
• 22:34
  well.
• 22:34
  But
• 22:34
  I
• 22:35
  think
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  difference
• 22:36
  in
• 22:37
  a
• 22:37
  black
• 22:37
  and
• 22:37
  white
• 22:37
  photographer
• 22:38
  and
• 22:38
  obviously
• 22:38
  a
• 22:38
  color
• 22:38
  photographer,
• 22:39
  but
• 22:39
  a
• 22:40
  color
• 22:40
  photographer
• 22:40
  who's
• 22:41
  deliberately
• 22:42
  using
• 22:42
  color
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  deliberately
• 22:44
  using
• 22:44
  their
• 22:44
  environments
• 22:45
  and
• 22:45
  thinking
• 22:46
  outside
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  box
• 22:46
  and
• 22:46
  thinking
• 22:47
  creatively.
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  think
• 22:48
  that
• 22:49
  spark
• 22:49
  of
• 22:51
  flash
• 22:52
  of
• 22:52
  color
• 22:53
  turns
• 22:54
  your
• 22:54
  head
• 22:54
  kind
• 22:54
  of
• 22:54
  thing.
• 22:54
  It's
• 22:55
  noticed
• 22:55
  kind
• 22:56
  of
• 22:56
  thing.
• 22:56
  And
• 22:56
  so
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  using
• 22:57
  my
• 22:57
  environments
• 22:58
  more
• 22:58
  and
• 22:58
  shooting
• 22:59
  that
• 22:59
  way,
• 22:59
  using
• 23:00
  color.
• 23:01
  One
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  ones
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  think
• 23:01
  I've
• 23:02
  posted
• 23:02
  on
• 23:02
  Instagram
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  few
• 23:03
  times
• 23:03
  is
• 23:04
  just
• 23:05
  a
• 23:05
  Sri
• 23:05
  Lankan
• 23:06
  groom
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  Chinese
• 23:08
  bride
• 23:08
  just
• 23:08
  walking
• 23:09
  around
• 23:09
  Portsmouth
• 23:10
  and
• 23:11
  there
• 23:12
  was
• 23:12
  an
• 23:12
  EE
• 23:15
  billboard
• 23:15
  behind
• 23:15
  them.
• 23:16
  And
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  wasn't
• 23:16
  thinking
• 23:17
  about
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  E
• 23:18
  billboard,
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  was
• 23:18
  just
• 23:18
  thinking
• 23:19
  about
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  color
• 23:19
  yellow
• 23:20
  behind
• 23:20
  them.
• 23:20
  And
• 23:21
  I
• 23:21
  knew
• 23:21
  through
• 23:22
  skill
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  can
• 23:22
  get
• 23:22
  rid
• 23:22
  of
• 23:23
  all
• 23:23
  that
• 23:23
  stuff
• 23:23
  on
• 23:23
  there
• 23:23
  and
• 23:24
  just
• 23:24
  make
• 23:24
  it
• 23:24
  a
• 23:24
  yellow
• 23:25
  background
• 23:26
  in
• 23:26
  a
• 23:26
  busy
• 23:27
  street.
• 23:28
  That's
• 23:28
  what
• 23:28
  I'm
• 23:29
  looking
• 23:29
  for.
• 23:29
  I'm
• 23:29
  thinking
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  end
• 23:30
  result
• 23:31
  rather
• 23:31
  than
• 23:32
  what's
• 23:32
  straight
• 23:32
  in
• 23:32
  front
• 23:32
  of
• 23:33
  me.
• 23:33
  And
• 23:34
  so
• 23:34
  I
• 23:34
  started
• 23:34
  using
• 23:34
  color
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  lot
• 23:35
  more,
• 23:35
  using
• 23:36
  environments
• 23:36
  a
• 23:36
  lot
• 23:37
  more,
• 23:38
  Trying
• 23:38
  to
• 23:38
  actually
• 23:39
  spend
• 23:39
  more
• 23:39
  time
• 23:39
  with
• 23:40
  my
• 23:40
  couples,
• 23:40
  too.
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  don't
• 23:41
  generally
• 23:42
  take
• 23:43
  them
• 23:43
  away
• 23:43
  for
• 23:43
  an
• 23:43
  hour.
• 23:43
  I
• 23:44
  think
• 23:44
  that's
• 23:44
  just
• 23:44
  too
• 23:44
  long
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  do
• 23:45
  that
• 23:45
  unless
• 23:46
  they
• 23:46
  particularly
• 23:46
  want
• 23:47
  to
• 23:47
  do
• 23:47
  that.
• 23:47
  But,
• 23:48
  you
• 23:48
  know,
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  take
• 23:48
  away
• 23:49
  sort
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  20
• 23:50
  minutes
• 23:50
  here,
• 23:50
  30
• 23:50
  minutes
• 23:51
  here,
• 23:51
  and
• 23:52
  have
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  use
• 23:52
  of
• 23:52
  different
• 23:53
  environments,
• 23:54
  that
• 23:54
  just
• 23:54
  means
• 23:55
  I
• 23:55
  can
• 23:55
  give
• 23:55
  more
• 23:55
  to
• 23:55
  them
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  diverse
• 23:57
  range
• 23:57
  of
• 23:57
  photographs,
• 23:58
  not
• 23:58
  just,
• 23:59
  you
• 23:59
  know,
• 23:59
  what
• 23:59
  you
• 24:00
  might
• 24:00
  call
• 24:00
  your
• 24:00
  sort
• 24:00
  of
• 24:00
  standard
• 24:01
  wedding
• 24:01
  photos.
• 24:04
  And,
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  know,
• 24:04
  more
• 24:05
  multicultural
• 24:05
  couples
• 24:06
  would
• 24:06
  obviously
• 24:06
  see
• 24:07
  the
• 24:07
  multicultural
• 24:08
  couples
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  I'm
• 24:09
  shooting,
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  for
• 24:11
  whatever
• 24:11
  reason,
• 24:11
  they're
• 24:12
  coming
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  me,
• 24:12
  which
• 24:12
  is
• 24:13
  lovely,
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  know.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:15
  so
• 24:15
  it
• 24:15
  has
• 24:15
  been
• 24:16
  Sri
• 24:16
  Lankan
• 24:17
  grooms
• 24:17
  or
• 24:18
  Sudanese
• 24:18
  couple,
• 24:19
  or
• 24:20
  actually
• 24:21
  either
• 24:21
  the
• 24:21
  groom
• 24:22
  of
• 24:22
  Sudanese
• 24:22
  is.
• 24:22
  She's
• 24:23
  Welsh.
• 24:23
  The
• 24:24
  Indian
• 24:24
  wedding
• 24:25
  I've
• 24:25
  just
• 24:25
  done,
• 24:25
  she's
• 24:26
  Welsh
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  he's
• 24:27
  Hindu.
• 24:28
  Gujarati,
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  think.
• 24:30
  And
• 24:30
  I
• 24:31
  just
• 24:31
  started
• 24:31
  to
• 24:32
  be
• 24:32
  asked
• 24:32
  to
• 24:32
  do
• 24:32
  more
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  these
• 24:33
  kinds
• 24:34
  of
• 24:34
  weddings.
• 24:36
  I'm
• 24:36
  not.
• 24:37
  And
• 24:37
  hands
• 24:37
  up
• 24:37
  high.
• 24:38
  Like
• 24:39
  you
• 24:39
  said,
• 24:39
  you're
• 24:40
  a
• 24:40
  white
• 24:40
  male.
• 24:40
  Yes,
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  am.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:42
  when
• 24:42
  I
• 24:42
  go
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  India,
• 24:42
  Indian
• 24:43
  shows,
• 24:44
  it's
• 24:44
  like,
• 24:44
  oh,
• 24:45
  Jackie,
• 24:45
  with
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  white
• 24:45
  guys.
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  think
• 24:46
  it's
• 24:46
  Nick,
• 24:47
  you
• 24:47
  know,
• 24:48
  because
• 24:48
  I've.
• 24:48
  I've
• 24:49
  immersed
• 24:49
  myself
• 24:50
  in
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  different
• 24:52
  culture
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  haven't
• 24:53
  been
• 24:53
  used
• 24:54
  to
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  previous
• 24:54
  years.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  course,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  know,
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  culture,
• 24:56
  especially
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  Indian
• 24:57
  culture,
• 24:58
  uses
• 24:58
  a
• 24:59
  lot
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  Indian
• 24:59
  suppliers.
• 25:01
  And.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:02
  it's.
• 25:02
  It's
• 25:03
  an
• 25:03
  interesting
• 25:03
  thing,
• 25:03
  but
• 25:04
  a
• 25:04
  blessing
• 25:04
  still
• 25:04
  that
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  think
• 25:07
  one
• 25:08
  event
• 25:08
  guy
• 25:08
  said
• 25:08
  to
• 25:09
  me,
• 25:09
  he
• 25:09
  brought
• 25:09
  his
• 25:10
  niece
• 25:10
  over
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  me
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  have
• 25:11
  a
• 25:11
  chat
• 25:11
  about
• 25:11
  photography.
• 25:12
  And
• 25:13
  he
• 25:13
  said,
• 25:13
  he's
• 25:14
  got
• 25:14
  like
• 25:14
  a
• 25:14
  London
• 25:14
  Cockney
• 25:15
  accent
• 25:15
  in
• 25:15
  it,
• 25:15
  mate.
• 25:16
  And
• 25:16
  he's
• 25:16
  like,
• 25:16
  look,
• 25:17
  Nick's.
• 25:17
  Nick's
• 25:17
  white,
• 25:18
  right?
• 25:19
  And
• 25:19
  he's
• 25:20
  like.
• 25:20
  The
• 25:20
  other
• 25:21
  great
• 25:21
  thing
• 25:21
  about
• 25:21
  Nick
• 25:21
  is
• 25:22
  that
• 25:22
  he's
• 25:22
  not
• 25:22
  like
• 25:22
  other
• 25:22
  Indian
• 25:23
  photographers
• 25:23
  because
• 25:24
  he's
• 25:24
  white,
• 25:24
  because
• 25:25
  he's
• 25:25
  going
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  shoot
• 25:26
  differently
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  what
• 25:27
  an
• 25:27
  Indian
• 25:27
  culture
• 25:28
  would
• 25:28
  shoot,
• 25:28
  which
• 25:29
  is
• 25:29
  very
• 25:29
  posed
• 25:30
  for
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  most
• 25:31
  part.
• 25:31
  There
• 25:31
  are
• 25:32
  some
• 25:32
  other
• 25:32
  natural
• 25:33
  photographers
• 25:33
  out
• 25:33
  there,
• 25:34
  but,
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  know,
• 25:35
  he's
• 25:35
  like
• 25:35
  you've
• 25:36
  got
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  different
• 25:36
  perspective
• 25:37
  on
• 25:37
  things.
• 25:37
  You're
• 25:38
  not
• 25:38
  shooting
• 25:38
  the
• 25:39
  same
• 25:39
  thing
• 25:39
  twice.
• 25:40
  And
• 25:40
  it
• 25:40
  goes
• 25:40
  back
• 25:41
  to
• 25:41
  any
• 25:41
  wedding
• 25:42
  venue.
• 25:42
  I
• 25:43
  really
• 25:43
  don't
• 25:43
  like
• 25:43
  to
• 25:44
  shoot
• 25:44
  the
• 25:45
  done
• 25:45
  places
• 25:46
  because
• 25:46
  all
• 25:46
  it
• 25:46
  gives
• 25:47
  couples
• 25:47
  is
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  same
• 25:47
  photographs
• 25:48
  that
• 25:48
  everyone
• 25:49
  else
• 25:49
  has
• 25:49
  had.
• 25:49
  And
• 25:50
  for
• 25:50
  me
• 25:50
  it's
• 25:50
  like,
• 25:50
  poor
• 25:51
  egg,
• 25:51
  you
• 25:52
  know,
• 25:52
  it's
• 25:53
  like,
• 25:53
  you
• 25:53
  know,
• 25:53
  we
• 25:54
  can
• 25:54
  do
• 25:54
  other
• 25:54
  things,
• 25:54
  you
• 25:55
  know,
• 25:55
  And
• 25:55
  I
• 25:56
  love
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  fact
• 25:56
  that
• 25:57
  actually
• 25:57
  the
• 25:58
  Indian
• 25:58
  culture
• 25:59
  particularly
• 26:00
  have
• 26:00
  embraced
• 26:02
  me
• 26:02
  for
• 26:02
  shooting
• 26:03
  more
• 26:03
  naturally
• 26:04
  rather
• 26:04
  than
• 26:05
  traditional.
• 26:06
  It
• 26:06
  said
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  had
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  camera
• 26:07
  up,
• 26:07
  everyone's
• 26:08
  looking
• 26:08
  at
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  camera
• 26:08
  and
• 26:09
  it's
• 26:09
  like,
• 26:09
  no,
• 26:09
  no,
• 26:10
  no,
• 26:10
  no,
• 26:10
  just
• 26:10
  go
• 26:10
  about
• 26:11
  your
• 26:11
  thing.
• 26:11
  Do
• 26:11
  you
• 26:12
  do
• 26:12
  what
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  want
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  do?
• 26:13
  And
• 26:13
  then
• 26:13
  spend
• 26:13
  the
• 26:14
  time
• 26:14
  sneakily
• 26:15
  getting
• 26:15
  those
• 26:15
  natural
• 26:16
  photographs
• 26:16
  in
• 26:16
  them.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:18
  in
• 26:18
  fact
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  wording
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  just
• 26:19
  did.
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  think
• 26:19
  this
• 26:19
  is
• 26:19
  really
• 26:20
  interesting
• 26:20
  that
• 26:21
  I
• 26:22
  said
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  would
• 26:22
  do
• 26:23
  his
• 26:23
  dad's
• 26:24
  70th
• 26:25
  for
• 26:25
  free
• 26:26
  and
• 26:26
  if
• 26:26
  you
• 26:27
  love
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  work,
• 26:27
  like,
• 26:28
  would
• 26:28
  you
• 26:28
  book
• 26:28
  me
• 26:29
  for
• 26:29
  your
• 26:29
  multi
• 26:29
  day
• 26:30
  wedding?
• 26:30
  And
• 26:30
  he's
• 26:30
  like,
• 26:31
  yes.
• 26:31
  And
• 26:32
  I'm
• 26:32
  like,
• 26:32
  and
• 26:32
  the
• 26:32
  dad's
• 26:33
  paying
• 26:33
  for
• 26:33
  it.
• 26:33
  So
• 26:33
  I
• 26:34
  was
• 26:34
  like,
• 26:34
  I've
• 26:35
  got
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  impress
• 26:35
  that,
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  know,
• 26:36
  if
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  did
• 26:37
  it
• 26:37
  for
• 26:37
  free,
• 26:37
  maybe
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  might
• 26:38
  get
• 26:38
  this
• 26:38
  wedding.
• 26:39
  Maybe
• 26:40
  an
• 26:40
  act
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  desperation,
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  don't
• 26:41
  know.
• 26:42
  But
• 26:42
  we'll
• 26:42
  see.
• 26:43
  Started
• 26:44
  doing
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  photographs
• 26:45
  very,
• 26:46
  very
• 26:46
  naturally.
• 26:47
  Some
• 26:47
  group
• 26:47
  shots
• 26:48
  as
• 26:48
  well.
• 26:49
  And
• 26:50
  they
• 26:50
  wanted
• 26:50
  to
• 26:51
  keep
• 26:51
  me
• 26:51
  on
• 26:51
  for
• 26:51
  a
• 26:52
  few
• 26:52
  more
• 26:52
  hours.
• 26:52
  And
• 26:52
  I'm
• 26:52
  like,
• 26:53
  you
• 26:53
  know,
• 26:54
  I'm
• 26:54
  doing
• 26:54
  this
• 26:54
  for
• 26:54
  free,
• 26:54
  guys.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:55
  they're
• 26:55
  like,
• 26:55
  yeah,
• 26:56
  they're
• 26:56
  like,
• 26:56
  well,
• 26:56
  can
• 26:56
  we,
• 26:57
  can
• 26:57
  we
• 26:57
  pay
• 26:57
  for
• 26:57
  the
• 26:57
  extra
• 26:57
  hours?
• 26:58
  Yeah,
• 26:58
  sure.
• 26:59
  So
• 26:59
  I
• 26:59
  actually
• 26:59
  then
• 26:59
  made
• 27:00
  money
• 27:00
  from
• 27:00
  doing
• 27:00
  it.
• 27:01
  I
• 27:02
  then
• 27:02
  edited
• 27:03
  them
• 27:03
  all,
• 27:04
  sent
• 27:04
  them
• 27:04
  all
• 27:04
  to
• 27:05
  them
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  dad
• 27:06
  was
• 27:06
  like,
• 27:06
  I've
• 27:06
  never
• 27:07
  seen
• 27:07
  this
• 27:07
  before.
• 27:08
  Wow,
• 27:08
  this
• 27:08
  is
• 27:09
  so
• 27:09
  new
• 27:09
  to
• 27:09
  me.
• 27:10
  You
• 27:10
  know,
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  completely
• 27:12
  get
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  now,
• 27:13
  Nick,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  you've
• 27:13
  won
• 27:14
  me
• 27:14
  over.
• 27:14
  Absolutely,
• 27:15
  yeah,
• 27:15
  we'll
• 27:15
  hire
• 27:16
  you
• 27:16
  for
• 27:16
  our
• 27:16
  wedding
• 27:16
  for
• 27:16
  sure.
• 27:17
  And
• 27:17
  then
• 27:18
  they
• 27:18
  put
• 27:18
  me
• 27:18
  for
• 27:18
  their
• 27:18
  wedding.
• 27:19
  So
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  did
• 27:19
  their
• 27:19
  healthy,
• 27:20
  which
• 27:20
  I'm
• 27:20
  working
• 27:20
  on
• 27:20
  at
• 27:20
  the
• 27:20
  moment,
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  their
• 27:21
  mendy
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  their
• 27:22
  wedding
• 27:22
  as
• 27:22
  well,
• 27:23
  you
• 27:24
  know,
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  so
• 27:24
  it's
• 27:24
  really
• 27:24
  nice
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  they've
• 27:25
  seen
• 27:26
  actually
• 27:26
  how
• 27:26
  powerful
• 27:27
  natural
• 27:27
  photography
• 27:28
  is.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  not
• 27:28
  overly
• 27:29
  posed,
• 27:30
  overly
• 27:31
  looking
• 27:31
  at
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  camera.
• 27:31
  I
• 27:32
  love
• 27:32
  that.
• 27:32
  So
• 27:32
  you've
• 27:32
  basically
• 27:33
  found
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  niche
• 27:34
  within
• 27:34
  a
• 27:34
  niche
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  make
• 27:35
  sure
• 27:35
  that
• 27:36
  you're
• 27:36
  standing
• 27:36
  out
• 27:37
  within
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  niche
• 27:37
  of
• 27:38
  multicultural
• 27:38
  weddings.
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  think
• 27:39
  one
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  things
• 27:39
  that
• 27:40
  sometimes
• 27:40
  scares
• 27:41
  people
• 27:41
  about
• 27:41
  moving
• 27:41
  into
• 27:42
  that
• 27:42
  market
• 27:42
  is
• 27:43
  trying
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  understand
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  traditions,
• 27:45
  understanding
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  cultures,
• 27:46
  how
• 27:46
  it's
• 27:46
  going
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  impact
• 27:47
  their
• 27:47
  business
• 27:47
  to
• 27:48
  do
• 27:48
  multi
• 27:48
  day
• 27:48
  weddings
• 27:49
  instead
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  just,
• 27:49
  just
• 27:49
  Single
• 27:50
  day
• 27:50
  weddings.
• 27:50
  How
• 27:51
  have
• 27:51
  you
• 27:51
  navigated
• 27:52
  all
• 27:52
  of
• 27:52
  those
• 27:53
  different
• 27:53
  things?
• 27:53
  I
• 27:54
  mean,
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  know,
• 27:54
  I
• 27:54
  had
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  take
• 27:54
  it
• 27:55
  in
• 27:55
  my
• 27:55
  stride.
• 27:55
  I
• 27:55
  mean
• 27:55
  one
• 27:56
  of
• 27:56
  my
• 27:56
  first
• 27:56
  Indian
• 27:56
  weddings,
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  had
• 27:58
  never,
• 27:58
  you
• 27:58
  know,
• 27:58
  shot
• 27:58
  an
• 27:59
  Indian
• 27:59
  wedding
• 27:59
  before.
• 28:00
  I'd
• 28:00
  never
• 28:00
  shot
• 28:01
  a
• 28:01
  pre
• 28:01
  wedding
• 28:01
  event
• 28:03
  like
• 28:03
  a
• 28:03
  howdy
• 28:03
  or
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  mendy
• 28:04
  with
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  henna
• 28:05
  and
• 28:05
  all
• 28:05
  those
• 28:05
  kind
• 28:05
  of
• 28:06
  things
• 28:06
  and
• 28:06
  what
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  expect
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  obviously
• 28:07
  culturally
• 28:08
  very
• 28:09
  different
• 28:09
  from
• 28:09
  my
• 28:09
  normal
• 28:10
  lifestyle,
• 28:10
  you
• 28:11
  know,
• 28:12
  so
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  first
• 28:13
  one
• 28:13
  I
• 28:13
  did
• 28:13
  was
• 28:13
  good
• 28:14
  sort
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  10
• 28:14
  years
• 28:15
  ago
• 28:15
  and
• 28:16
  then,
• 28:16
  and
• 28:16
  then
• 28:17
  became
• 28:17
  a
• 28:17
  lot
• 28:18
  more,
• 28:18
  as
• 28:18
  I
• 28:18
  was
• 28:18
  pushing
• 28:18
  it
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  bit
• 28:19
  more
• 28:19
  and
• 28:20
  actually
• 28:20
  changing
• 28:20
  my
• 28:20
  SEO
• 28:21
  from
• 28:22
  targeting
• 28:23
  Bournemouth
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  Dorset
• 28:24
  to
• 28:25
  targeting
• 28:26
  more
• 28:26
  of
• 28:26
  the
• 28:27
  cities
• 28:27
  in
• 28:28
  which
• 28:28
  the
• 28:28
  multicultural
• 28:29
  weddings
• 28:29
  would
• 28:29
  happen
• 28:30
  further
• 28:30
  north
• 28:32
  as
• 28:32
  well
• 28:32
  as
• 28:33
  more
• 28:34
  events
• 28:34
  and
• 28:34
  weddings
• 28:35
  in
• 28:35
  London.
• 28:36
  So
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  think
• 28:37
  the
• 28:37
  first
• 28:37
  thing
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  say
• 28:38
  would
• 28:38
  be
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  didn't
• 28:40
  go
• 28:40
  into
• 28:41
  it
• 28:41
  researching
• 28:42
  so
• 28:42
  many
• 28:43
  different
• 28:43
  cultures,
• 28:44
  especially
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  Gujarati
• 28:45
  or
• 28:45
  a
• 28:45
  Sikh
• 28:46
  or
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  Punjabi
• 28:46
  culture
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  come
• 28:47
  in
• 28:48
  knowing
• 28:48
  everything
• 28:49
  and
• 28:49
  actually
• 28:50
  every
• 28:50
  single
• 28:50
  wedding
• 28:50
  I've
• 28:51
  done,
• 28:51
  they've
• 28:51
  all
• 28:51
  been
• 28:52
  different,
• 28:52
  they
• 28:53
  haven't
• 28:53
  all
• 28:53
  been,
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  know,
• 28:55
  from
• 28:55
  an
• 28:55
  English
• 28:55
  wedding,
• 28:55
  you
• 28:56
  know
• 28:56
  exactly
• 28:56
  what's
• 28:56
  going
• 28:57
  to
• 28:57
  happen
• 28:57
  apart
• 28:58
  from
• 28:58
  a
• 28:59
  few
• 28:59
  bits
• 28:59
  here
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  there
• 29:00
  that
• 29:00
  can
• 29:00
  change.
• 29:02
  So
• 29:02
  it
• 29:02
  was
• 29:02
  a
• 29:03
  nice
• 29:03
  learning
• 29:03
  process
• 29:04
  to
• 29:04
  do
• 29:04
  some
• 29:04
  of
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  pre
• 29:05
  wedding
• 29:05
  events
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  know
• 29:05
  what
• 29:06
  happens
• 29:06
  in
• 29:06
  those.
• 29:07
  And
• 29:07
  to
• 29:07
  be
• 29:08
  honest,
• 29:08
  I
• 29:08
  only
• 29:08
  really
• 29:08
  needed
• 29:08
  to
• 29:09
  do
• 29:09
  a
• 29:09
  few
• 29:10
  to
• 29:10
  cotton
• 29:10
  onto
• 29:11
  it
• 29:11
  and
• 29:11
  to
• 29:11
  understand
• 29:12
  things.
• 29:13
  And
• 29:13
  actually
• 29:14
  no
• 29:14
  matter
• 29:15
  what
• 29:15
  my
• 29:15
  faith
• 29:15
  is
• 29:16
  or
• 29:16
  was,
• 29:18
  I
• 29:19
  found
• 29:19
  that
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  lot
• 29:20
  of
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  ritual
• 29:23
  side
• 29:23
  of
• 29:24
  things
• 29:24
  and
• 29:24
  the
• 29:24
  faith
• 29:25
  side
• 29:25
  of
• 29:25
  things
• 29:25
  were
• 29:25
  actually
• 29:26
  really
• 29:26
  beautiful
• 29:27
  and
• 29:27
  actually
• 29:28
  I
• 29:28
  loved
• 29:28
  doing
• 29:28
  them
• 29:29
  which
• 29:29
  is
• 29:29
  why
• 29:29
  I
• 29:30
  was
• 29:30
  like,
• 29:30
  I
• 29:30
  really
• 29:31
  want
• 29:31
  to
• 29:31
  push
• 29:31
  this
• 29:31
  more
• 29:32
  and
• 29:32
  do
• 29:32
  these
• 29:33
  and
• 29:33
  because
• 29:33
  it's
• 29:33
  multi
• 29:34
  day
• 29:34
  it
• 29:34
  is
• 29:35
  a
• 29:35
  lot
• 29:35
  harder
• 29:35
  work.
• 29:36
  You
• 29:36
  know,
• 29:36
  compare
• 29:37
  that
• 29:37
  to
• 29:37
  an
• 29:37
  eight
• 29:37
  to
• 29:38
  ten
• 29:38
  hour
• 29:39
  standard
• 29:39
  English
• 29:40
  wedding.
• 29:40
  It's
• 29:41
  three
• 29:41
  or
• 29:41
  four
• 29:41
  times
• 29:41
  the
• 29:42
  amount
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  work
• 29:43
  and
• 29:43
  you've
• 29:43
  got
• 29:43
  to
• 29:43
  be
• 29:43
  on
• 29:43
  top
• 29:44
  of
• 29:44
  it
• 29:44
  all
• 29:44
  the
• 29:44
  time,
• 29:44
  all
• 29:45
  day,
• 29:45
  have
• 29:46
  the
• 29:46
  energy
• 29:46
  to
• 29:46
  better
• 29:46
  do
• 29:47
  that.
• 29:48
  But
• 29:48
  there's
• 29:49
  just
• 29:49
  more
• 29:50
  colorful
• 29:50
  moments
• 29:51
  in
• 29:51
  it
• 29:51
  for
• 29:51
  me
• 29:51
  as
• 29:51
  well.
• 29:52
  So
• 29:52
  again,
• 29:52
  ticking
• 29:53
  that
• 29:53
  box
• 29:53
  for
• 29:53
  me
• 29:53
  that
• 29:54
  I
• 29:54
  love
• 29:54
  color
• 29:55
  and
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  use
• 29:55
  of
• 29:55
  color
• 29:56
  and
• 29:56
  I
• 29:56
  could
• 29:56
  use
• 29:56
  that
• 29:56
  more
• 29:57
  especially
• 29:58
  for
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  healthy
• 29:59
  with
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  turmeric
• 29:59
  and,
• 30:00
  and
• 30:00
  obviously
• 30:00
  the
• 30:01
  difference
• 30:02
  in
• 30:03
  clothes
• 30:04
  with
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  saris
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  what
• 30:05
  the
• 30:06
  gentlemen
• 30:06
  wear
• 30:06
  as
• 30:06
  well,
• 30:07
  you
• 30:07
  know,
• 30:07
  completely
• 30:08
  different
• 30:09
  from
• 30:09
  what
• 30:10
  a
• 30:10
  standard
• 30:10
  English
• 30:10
  wedding
• 30:11
  would
• 30:11
  be.
• 30:12
  So
• 30:12
  you
• 30:12
  know,
• 30:13
  any
• 30:13
  Asian
• 30:13
  couples
• 30:14
  listening,
• 30:14
  I
• 30:14
  hold
• 30:15
  my
• 30:15
  hands
• 30:15
  up
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  say
• 30:16
  I
• 30:17
  don't
• 30:17
  know
• 30:17
  every
• 30:17
  single
• 30:18
  thing
• 30:18
  about
• 30:18
  the
• 30:19
  Gujarati
• 30:19
  culture
• 30:20
  or
• 30:20
  Tamil
• 30:20
  culture
• 30:21
  or
• 30:22
  yeah,
• 30:22
  Sikh
• 30:22
  or
• 30:23
  Punjabi,
• 30:24
  but
• 30:25
  I
• 30:25
  know
• 30:25
  enough
• 30:25
  to
• 30:26
  be
• 30:26
  confident,
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  capture
• 30:27
  things
• 30:28
  and
• 30:28
  know
• 30:28
  when
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  moments
• 30:29
  are
• 30:29
  happening
• 30:29
  now
• 30:30
  because
• 30:30
  I've
• 30:30
  done
• 30:31
  quite
• 30:31
  a
• 30:31
  few.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  also
• 30:32
  brings
• 30:32
  me
• 30:33
  into
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  fusion
• 30:34
  wedding.
• 30:34
  So,
• 30:35
  you
• 30:35
  know,
• 30:35
  it's
• 30:35
  not
• 30:36
  just
• 30:37
  one,
• 30:38
  one
• 30:38
  religion,
• 30:38
  one
• 30:39
  culture
• 30:39
  is
• 30:39
  then
• 30:40
  multiple,
• 30:40
  which
• 30:40
  is
• 30:41
  for
• 30:41
  me
• 30:41
  and
• 30:42
  as
• 30:42
  a
• 30:42
  person
• 30:42
  and
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  suit
• 30:43
  my
• 30:43
  character
• 30:44
  again,
• 30:44
  what
• 30:45
  a
• 30:45
  beautiful
• 30:45
  thing
• 30:46
  to
• 30:46
  bring
• 30:46
  in
• 30:47
  two
• 30:47
  different
• 30:47
  cultures
• 30:48
  together
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  maybe
• 30:48
  do
• 30:49
  separate
• 30:49
  things
• 30:50
  from,
• 30:50
  from
• 30:50
  his
• 30:51
  culture,
• 30:51
  from
• 30:51
  her
• 30:51
  culture
• 30:52
  or
• 30:53
  both
• 30:53
  cultures.
• 30:53
  You
• 30:53
  know,
• 30:54
  there's
• 30:54
  Indian
• 30:54
  weddings
• 30:55
  now
• 30:55
  that
• 30:55
  it's,
• 30:56
  you
• 30:56
  know,
• 30:57
  female
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  female
• 30:58
  or
• 30:58
  male
• 30:58
  and
• 30:58
  male,
• 30:59
  which
• 30:59
  again
• 30:59
  is
• 30:59
  another
• 30:59
  beautiful
• 31:00
  thing
• 31:00
  that's
• 31:00
  happening
• 31:01
  as
• 31:02
  this
• 31:02
  industry
• 31:03
  grows.
• 31:04
  So
• 31:04
  it's,
• 31:05
  it's
• 31:06
  been
• 31:06
  a
• 31:06
  very
• 31:07
  eye
• 31:07
  opening
• 31:08
  last
• 31:08
  kind
• 31:08
  of
• 31:09
  five,
• 31:09
  six
• 31:09
  years
• 31:10
  of
• 31:10
  doing
• 31:10
  more
• 31:10
  Indian
• 31:11
  weddings,
• 31:11
  but
• 31:12
  and
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  lot
• 31:13
  more
• 31:13
  hard
• 31:14
  work
• 31:14
  and
• 31:15
  charging
• 31:15
  more
• 31:16
  because
• 31:16
  of
• 31:16
  it.
• 31:16
  I
• 31:17
  think
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  too
• 31:17
  was
• 31:18
  an
• 31:18
  eye
• 31:18
  opener
• 31:18
  as
• 31:18
  well
• 31:19
  to
• 31:19
  know
• 31:20
  that,
• 31:20
  okay,
• 31:20
  they
• 31:21
  want
• 31:21
  this,
• 31:21
  they
• 31:21
  want
• 31:21
  this,
• 31:21
  they
• 31:22
  want
• 31:22
  a
• 31:22
  second
• 31:22
  shoot,
• 31:22
  they
• 31:22
  want
• 31:22
  this,
• 31:23
  this,
• 31:23
  this
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  this.
• 31:25
  I,
• 31:25
  there's
• 31:26
  no
• 31:26
  way
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  could
• 31:26
  do
• 31:26
  my.
• 31:27
  What
• 31:27
  I
• 31:27
  was
• 31:28
  charging
• 31:28
  about
• 31:29
  2500
• 31:29
  or
• 31:29
  something.
• 31:30
  This
• 31:30
  has
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  be
• 31:31
  minimum
• 31:31
  3500
• 31:32
  at
• 31:32
  least
• 31:33
  in
• 31:33
  order
• 31:33
  to
• 31:34
  justify.
• 31:34
  And
• 31:35
  you
• 31:35
  know,
• 31:36
  when
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  come
• 31:36
  back
• 31:36
  to
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  computer
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  back
• 31:37
  up
• 31:38
  all
• 31:38
  the
• 31:38
  photographs
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  go
• 31:39
  through
• 31:39
  it,
• 31:39
  think
• 31:40
  this
• 31:40
  is
• 31:40
  going
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  take
• 31:40
  me
• 31:41
  two
• 31:41
  weeks
• 31:41
  flat
• 31:42
  to
• 31:42
  do
• 31:42
  just
• 31:42
  this
• 31:43
  one
• 31:43
  wedding
• 31:43
  which
• 31:44
  has
• 31:44
  then
• 31:44
  free
• 31:45
  wedding
• 31:45
  events
• 31:46
  before
• 31:46
  as
• 31:46
  well.
• 31:46
  Whereas
• 31:47
  I
• 31:47
  could
• 31:47
  edit
• 31:48
  a
• 31:48
  wedding
• 31:48
  within
• 31:49
  three
• 31:49
  or
• 31:49
  four
• 31:49
  days
• 31:49
  if
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  needed
• 31:50
  to.
• 31:50
  But
• 31:50
  normally
• 31:51
  it's
• 31:51
  just
• 31:51
  a
• 31:51
  week,
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  know,
• 31:53
  so
• 31:53
  it's,
• 31:53
  it's
• 31:54
  been
• 31:54
  really,
• 31:54
  really
• 31:54
  interesting
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  a
• 31:55
  really
• 31:55
  good
• 31:55
  learning
• 31:56
  curve.
• 31:56
  And
• 31:56
  for
• 31:56
  someone
• 31:57
  like
• 31:57
  you
• 31:57
  that
• 31:57
  clearly
• 31:58
  thrives
• 31:58
  on
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  creativity
• 31:59
  and
• 32:00
  thrives
• 32:00
  on
• 32:00
  doing
• 32:01
  things
• 32:01
  differently,
• 32:01
  doing
• 32:02
  things
• 32:02
  out
• 32:02
  of
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  box,
• 32:02
  it
• 32:03
  actually
• 32:03
  probably
• 32:03
  suits
• 32:04
  you
• 32:04
  very
• 32:05
  well
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  have
• 32:05
  weddings
• 32:06
  that
• 32:06
  aren't
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  same
• 32:07
  every
• 32:07
  time
• 32:07
  and
• 32:08
  that
• 32:08
  are
• 32:08
  doing
• 32:08
  things
• 32:08
  totally
• 32:09
  different
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  have
• 32:09
  new
• 32:10
  perspectives,
• 32:10
  new
• 32:11
  cultures,
• 32:12
  new
• 32:12
  things
• 32:12
  going
• 32:12
  on
• 32:13
  for
• 32:13
  you
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  shoot
• 32:14
  and
• 32:14
  continue
• 32:14
  to
• 32:15
  be
• 32:15
  creative.
• 32:15
  And
• 32:15
  your
• 32:16
  work
• 32:16
  is
• 32:16
  stunning.
• 32:16
  If
• 32:16
  anyone's
• 32:17
  listening
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  this
• 32:17
  and
• 32:18
  hasn't
• 32:18
  yet
• 32:18
  had
• 32:18
  a
• 32:18
  look
• 32:19
  at
• 32:19
  Nick's
• 32:19
  Instagram,
• 32:19
  do
• 32:20
  go
• 32:20
  and
• 32:20
  have
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  look
• 32:20
  at
• 32:20
  it.
• 32:20
  Because
• 32:21
  the
• 32:21
  colors
• 32:22
  are
• 32:22
  beautiful,
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  locations
• 32:23
  are
• 32:24
  stunning.
• 32:24
  It's
• 32:24
  really,
• 32:25
  it
• 32:25
  is
• 32:25
  really
• 32:25
  beautiful
• 32:26
  work.
• 32:26
  You
• 32:26
  need
• 32:26
  to
• 32:26
  go
• 32:26
  and
• 32:27
  check
• 32:27
  it
• 32:27
  out.
• 32:27
  Now.
• 32:28
  One
• 32:28
  of
• 32:28
  the
• 32:28
  things
• 32:28
  I
• 32:28
  noticed
• 32:29
  on
• 32:29
  your
• 32:29
  website,
• 32:29
  Nick,
• 32:29
  that
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  wanted
• 32:30
  to
• 32:30
  ask
• 32:30
  you
• 32:30
  about
• 32:31
  is
• 32:31
  that
• 32:31
  particularly
• 32:32
  when
• 32:32
  it
• 32:32
  comes
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  engagement
• 32:33
  photography,
• 32:33
  you
• 32:34
  have
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  statement
• 32:34
  on
• 32:34
  there
• 32:34
  that
• 32:35
  says
• 32:35
  you
• 32:35
  don't
• 32:35
  like
• 32:35
  to
• 32:36
  shoot
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  same
• 32:36
  location
• 32:37
  twice.
• 32:38
  How
• 32:38
  did
• 32:38
  that
• 32:38
  come
• 32:38
  about?
• 32:39
  Yeah,
• 32:39
  well,
• 32:40
  it
• 32:40
  was
• 32:40
  probably
• 32:40
  about
• 32:40
  10
• 32:41
  years
• 32:41
  ago
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  started
• 32:42
  to
• 32:43
  be
• 32:43
  asked
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  do
• 32:43
  engagement
• 32:44
  shoots,
• 32:44
  which
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  hadn't
• 32:44
  really
• 32:45
  done
• 32:45
  before.
• 32:47
  And
• 32:47
  I
• 32:47
  Just
• 32:47
  thought
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  started
• 32:48
  doing
• 32:49
  local
• 32:49
  locations
• 32:50
  quite
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  lot
• 32:51
  and
• 32:51
  then
• 32:51
  the
• 32:51
  same
• 32:51
  ones
• 32:52
  would
• 32:52
  pop
• 32:53
  up
• 32:53
  quite
• 32:53
  a
• 32:53
  lot.
• 32:54
  So
• 32:54
  down
• 32:55
  here
• 32:55
  would
• 32:55
  be
• 32:55
  Dodel
• 32:56
  Door,
• 32:56
  you
• 32:57
  know,
• 32:57
  the.
• 32:57
  The
• 32:57
  rock
• 32:57
  with
• 32:58
  the.
• 32:58
  The
• 32:58
  hole
• 32:58
  in
• 32:58
  it
• 32:59
  and
• 32:59
  the
• 33:00
  walk
• 33:00
  down
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  stuff.
• 33:01
  Once
• 33:01
  you've
• 33:02
  done
• 33:02
  that
• 33:02
  once,
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  walk
• 33:04
  back
• 33:04
  up
• 33:04
  is
• 33:04
  knackering.
• 33:05
  It's
• 33:06
  just.
• 33:06
  It's
• 33:07
  like
• 33:07
  you
• 33:07
  walk
• 33:07
  down
• 33:07
  easy,
• 33:08
  but
• 33:08
  coming
• 33:08
  back
• 33:09
  up,
• 33:09
  it's
• 33:09
  like.
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  thought
• 33:11
  I'd
• 33:11
  be
• 33:11
  doing
• 33:11
  that
• 33:11
  again
• 33:11
  anytime
• 33:12
  soon,
• 33:12
  but
• 33:13
  people
• 33:13
  kept
• 33:13
  on
• 33:14
  asking
• 33:14
  for
• 33:14
  dirt
• 33:14
  or
• 33:14
  door
• 33:14
  and
• 33:15
  Hansbury
• 33:15
  Head
• 33:15
  and
• 33:16
  loads
• 33:16
  of
• 33:16
  different
• 33:16
  places.
• 33:17
  I'm
• 33:17
  just
• 33:17
  like,
• 33:18
  I
• 33:19
  wonder
• 33:19
  if
• 33:19
  we
• 33:19
  could
• 33:19
  do
• 33:20
  something
• 33:20
  different,
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  know,
• 33:21
  and
• 33:21
  try
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  influence
• 33:23
  a
• 33:23
  couple
• 33:23
  more.
• 33:24
  And
• 33:24
  then
• 33:24
  I'd
• 33:24
  get
• 33:25
  other
• 33:25
  people
• 33:25
  saying,
• 33:26
  oh,
• 33:26
  we
• 33:26
  live
• 33:26
  in
• 33:27
  London,
• 33:27
  but
• 33:27
  we're
• 33:28
  getting
• 33:28
  married
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  Dorset
• 33:29
  or
• 33:30
  wherever
• 33:30
  else.
• 33:30
  And
• 33:31
  then
• 33:31
  actually
• 33:31
  their
• 33:32
  ideas
• 33:32
  started
• 33:32
  to
• 33:33
  be
• 33:33
  quite
• 33:33
  interesting.
• 33:34
  And
• 33:34
  I
• 33:34
  thought,
• 33:34
  this
• 33:34
  is
• 33:35
  interesting
• 33:35
  that
• 33:35
  they've
• 33:36
  got
• 33:36
  a
• 33:36
  voucher
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  a
• 33:38
  gin
• 33:38
  distillery
• 33:39
  and
• 33:39
  so.
• 33:40
  Oh,
• 33:40
  Nick,
• 33:40
  would
• 33:40
  you.
• 33:40
  Would
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  be
• 33:41
  happy
• 33:41
  to
• 33:41
  go
• 33:41
  to
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  gin
• 33:42
  distillery
• 33:42
  and
• 33:42
  do
• 33:42
  photographs
• 33:43
  of
• 33:43
  us
• 33:43
  doing
• 33:43
  this
• 33:44
  gin
• 33:44
  workshop
• 33:46
  or
• 33:46
  going
• 33:47
  to
• 33:47
  this
• 33:47
  place
• 33:48
  in
• 33:48
  Cheddar
• 33:49
  Gorge
• 33:49
  or
• 33:49
  going
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  Natural
• 33:50
  History
• 33:51
  Museum
• 33:51
  or
• 33:51
  something
• 33:52
  like
• 33:52
  that?
• 33:52
  Yeah,
• 33:53
  yeah,
• 33:53
  that'd
• 33:53
  be
• 33:53
  cool.
• 33:54
  And
• 33:54
  then
• 33:55
  you're
• 33:55
  in
• 33:55
  a
• 33:55
  new
• 33:55
  environment
• 33:56
  that
• 33:56
  you've
• 33:56
  never
• 33:56
  done
• 33:57
  before.
• 33:57
  And
• 33:57
  often
• 33:58
  places,
• 33:58
  especially
• 33:58
  like
• 33:59
  London
• 33:59
  or
• 34:00
  Birmingham,
• 34:01
  they
• 34:01
  have
• 34:02
  so
• 34:02
  many
• 34:02
  different
• 34:02
  aspects
• 34:03
  to
• 34:04
  it,
• 34:04
  because
• 34:04
  we're
• 34:04
  now
• 34:05
  working
• 34:05
  in
• 34:05
  different
• 34:05
  environments
• 34:06
  with
• 34:06
  different
• 34:06
  buildings,
• 34:07
  with
• 34:07
  different
• 34:08
  light
• 34:08
  shining
• 34:08
  in.
• 34:09
  We've
• 34:09
  got
• 34:09
  elements
• 34:10
  that
• 34:10
  are
• 34:10
  affecting
• 34:10
  that
• 34:11
  light
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  it's
• 34:13
  really,
• 34:13
  really
• 34:14
  interesting.
• 34:14
  And
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  thought,
• 34:15
  you
• 34:16
  know
• 34:16
  what,
• 34:16
  you
• 34:17
  know,
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  can't
• 34:18
  really
• 34:18
  choose
• 34:19
  where
• 34:19
  I'm
• 34:19
  going
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  do
• 34:19
  my
• 34:20
  wedding.
• 34:20
  That.
• 34:21
  That's
• 34:21
  at
• 34:21
  the.
• 34:22
  At
• 34:22
  the
• 34:22
  head
• 34:22
  of
• 34:23
  the.
• 34:23
  The
• 34:23
  couple,
• 34:24
  you
• 34:24
  know,
• 34:25
  they
• 34:26
  choose
• 34:26
  where
• 34:26
  their
• 34:26
  wedding
• 34:27
  is.
• 34:27
  And,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:28
  know,
• 34:28
  if
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  say
• 34:29
  yes
• 34:29
  to
• 34:29
  them
• 34:29
  because
• 34:29
  I
• 34:30
  really
• 34:30
  want
• 34:30
  to
• 34:30
  do
• 34:30
  their
• 34:30
  wedding,
• 34:30
  I'll
• 34:31
  do
• 34:31
  it.
• 34:31
  But
• 34:31
  if
• 34:31
  it's
• 34:31
  somewhere
• 34:32
  I've
• 34:32
  shot
• 34:32
  so
• 34:32
  many
• 34:33
  times
• 34:33
  before
• 34:34
  and
• 34:34
  I
• 34:34
  feel
• 34:34
  just
• 34:34
  can't
• 34:35
  give
• 34:35
  them
• 34:35
  anything,
• 34:36
  you
• 34:36
  know,
• 34:37
  better
• 34:37
  than
• 34:37
  I've
• 34:37
  done
• 34:37
  before.
• 34:38
  And
• 34:39
  if
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  have
• 34:39
  maybe
• 34:39
  another
• 34:40
  one
• 34:40
  that.
• 34:40
  That's
• 34:40
  coming
• 34:41
  in
• 34:41
  for
• 34:41
  the
• 34:41
  same
• 34:41
  day,
• 34:42
  I
• 34:42
  think
• 34:42
  I'd
• 34:42
  rather
• 34:42
  do
• 34:43
  the
• 34:43
  venue
• 34:43
  that
• 34:43
  I
• 34:43
  haven't
• 34:43
  done
• 34:44
  before,
• 34:44
  just
• 34:44
  to
• 34:44
  be
• 34:44
  a
• 34:44
  bit
• 34:45
  more
• 34:45
  interesting,
• 34:46
  you
• 34:46
  know,
• 34:48
  but.
• 34:49
  But
• 34:49
  I
• 34:49
  can
• 34:49
  choose
• 34:49
  the
• 34:50
  engagement
• 34:50
  shoe
• 34:50
  location,
• 34:51
  or
• 34:51
  rather
• 34:52
  I
• 34:52
  can
• 34:52
  say
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  them,
• 34:53
  do,
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  know,
• 34:54
  I've
• 34:54
  done
• 34:54
  that
• 34:54
  one
• 34:55
  quite
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  few
• 34:55
  times
• 34:55
  before.
• 34:56
  Let's.
• 34:57
  Let's
• 34:57
  try
• 34:57
  and
• 34:57
  be
• 34:57
  a
• 34:57
  little
• 34:57
  bit
• 34:58
  more
• 34:58
  unique.
• 34:59
  And,
• 34:59
  you
• 34:59
  know,
• 34:59
  do
• 34:59
  you
• 34:59
  know
• 35:00
  that
• 35:00
  you
• 35:00
  can
• 35:00
  go
• 35:00
  anywhere
• 35:01
  you
• 35:01
  want
• 35:01
  to,
• 35:01
  literally,
• 35:02
  and.
• 35:03
  And
• 35:03
  then
• 35:03
  they're
• 35:03
  Thinking,
• 35:03
  oh,
• 35:04
  oh,
• 35:04
  really?
• 35:05
  Yeah,
• 35:05
  yeah.
• 35:06
  So,
• 35:06
  so,
• 35:06
  you
• 35:06
  know,
• 35:07
  top
• 35:07
  of
• 35:07
  your
• 35:07
  head,
• 35:08
  oh,
• 35:08
  this
• 35:08
  is
• 35:08
  after
• 35:08
  like
• 35:09
  a
• 35:09
  wedding
• 35:09
  meeting.
• 35:10
  Where
• 35:10
  would
• 35:10
  you
• 35:11
  like
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  do.
• 35:12
  To
• 35:12
  do
• 35:12
  it?
• 35:12
  Oh,
• 35:13
  we
• 35:13
  do
• 35:13
  live
• 35:13
  in
• 35:14
  London
• 35:14
  and,
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  know,
• 35:16
  we're
• 35:16
  getting
• 35:17
  married
• 35:17
  here
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  like
• 35:18
  a
• 35:18
  manor
• 35:18
  house.
• 35:19
  Might
• 35:19
  be
• 35:19
  quite,
• 35:20
  quite
• 35:20
  good
• 35:20
  to
• 35:20
  go
• 35:20
  somewhere
• 35:21
  that's
• 35:21
  a
• 35:21
  bit
• 35:21
  different
• 35:21
  to
• 35:22
  that,
• 35:22
  like
• 35:22
  maybe
• 35:22
  more
• 35:23
  industrial
• 35:24
  or
• 35:24
  something.
• 35:24
  I'm
• 35:24
  like,
• 35:24
  yeah,
• 35:24
  yeah,
• 35:25
  yeah,
• 35:25
  that
• 35:25
  sounds
• 35:25
  really
• 35:25
  good
• 35:25
  to
• 35:26
  me
• 35:26
  as
• 35:26
  well.
• 35:27
  And
• 35:27
  so,
• 35:27
  you
• 35:27
  know,
• 35:27
  it's
• 35:28
  then
• 35:28
  formed
• 35:29
  me
• 35:30
  sort
• 35:30
  of
• 35:30
  saying
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  couples,
• 35:30
  look,
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  don't
• 35:32
  shoot
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  same
• 35:32
  location
• 35:32
  twice
• 35:33
  price
• 35:34
  unless
• 35:34
  I've
• 35:34
  maybe
• 35:35
  like
• 35:35
  published
• 35:35
  it.
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  haven't
• 35:36
  published
• 35:37
  it
• 35:37
  before
• 35:38
  for
• 35:38
  people
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  see.
• 35:40
  You
• 35:40
  know,
• 35:40
  some
• 35:40
  couples
• 35:41
  don't
• 35:41
  always
• 35:42
  want
• 35:42
  their
• 35:42
  photographs
• 35:43
  to
• 35:43
  be
• 35:43
  online.
• 35:43
  Totally
• 35:44
  fine.
• 35:45
  So,
• 35:45
  you
• 35:45
  know,
• 35:45
  I
• 35:45
  don't
• 35:45
  have
• 35:46
  to
• 35:46
  post
• 35:46
  that
• 35:46
  so
• 35:46
  I
• 35:46
  can
• 35:47
  do
• 35:47
  it
• 35:47
  again
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  that's
• 35:48
  fine.
• 35:48
  And
• 35:48
  maybe
• 35:48
  I'll
• 35:48
  have
• 35:48
  different
• 35:49
  ideas,
• 35:49
  but
• 35:50
  I,
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  think,
• 35:51
  I
• 35:51
  don't
• 35:51
  know
• 35:52
  about
• 35:52
  other
• 35:52
  photographers,
• 35:52
  but
• 35:53
  I
• 35:53
  kind
• 35:53
  of
• 35:54
  will
• 35:54
  remember
• 35:55
  what
• 35:55
  I've
• 35:55
  done
• 35:55
  before.
• 35:55
  So
• 35:56
  I'd
• 35:56
  rather
• 35:56
  try
• 35:56
  and
• 35:56
  think
• 35:57
  of
• 35:57
  different
• 35:57
  things.
• 35:58
  And
• 35:58
  like,
• 35:58
  when
• 35:58
  it
• 35:58
  comes
• 35:58
  to
• 35:59
  wedding
• 35:59
  venues
• 35:59
  use,
• 35:59
  there's
• 36:00
  only
• 36:00
  certain
• 36:01
  so
• 36:01
  many
• 36:01
  places
• 36:02
  you
• 36:02
  can
• 36:02
  shoot
• 36:02
  really
• 36:02
  in
• 36:03
  the
• 36:03
  moment
• 36:03
  to
• 36:04
  think,
• 36:04
  how
• 36:04
  can
• 36:04
  I
• 36:04
  be
• 36:05
  creative
• 36:05
  in
• 36:05
  this
• 36:05
  environment?
• 36:06
  And
• 36:06
  I've
• 36:06
  done
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  before,
• 36:07
  I've
• 36:07
  done
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  before.
• 36:08
  So
• 36:09
  it
• 36:09
  just
• 36:09
  opens
• 36:09
  things
• 36:09
  up.
• 36:10
  And
• 36:10
  when
• 36:10
  it
• 36:10
  comes
• 36:10
  to
• 36:11
  color,
• 36:11
  you
• 36:12
  know,
• 36:12
  we
• 36:12
  know
• 36:12
  places
• 36:13
  in
• 36:13
  our
• 36:13
  cities
• 36:14
  where
• 36:14
  it
• 36:14
  has
• 36:15
  some
• 36:15
  really
• 36:15
  good
• 36:15
  color
• 36:16
  or
• 36:16
  some
• 36:16
  really
• 36:17
  interesting
• 36:17
  buildings.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:18
  so
• 36:19
  that
• 36:19
  might
• 36:19
  be
• 36:19
  like
• 36:19
  one
• 36:19
  of
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  spots
• 36:20
  that
• 36:20
  I
• 36:20
  might
• 36:20
  go
• 36:20
  to
• 36:21
  when
• 36:21
  a
• 36:22
  couple
• 36:22
  says
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  certain
• 36:23
  place
• 36:23
  or
• 36:24
  it's
• 36:25
  part
• 36:25
  of
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  fun,
• 36:26
  I
• 36:26
  hope,
• 36:26
  for
• 36:26
  the
• 36:26
  couple
• 36:27
  as
• 36:27
  well.
• 36:27
  And,
• 36:27
  but,
• 36:28
  but
• 36:28
  up
• 36:28
  to
• 36:28
  now
• 36:29
  it
• 36:29
  has
• 36:29
  been.
• 36:31
  But
• 36:31
  it's
• 36:31
  part
• 36:32
  of
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  fun
• 36:32
  was
• 36:33
  just
• 36:33
  walking
• 36:33
  around
• 36:33
  trying
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  find
• 36:34
  things
• 36:34
  and
• 36:35
  to
• 36:35
  utilize
• 36:35
  things.
• 36:36
  And
• 36:36
  we
• 36:36
  come
• 36:36
  up
• 36:36
  with
• 36:37
  some
• 36:37
  amazing
• 36:37
  things
• 36:37
  then
• 36:38
  when
• 36:38
  that
• 36:38
  happens.
• 36:39
  And
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  same
• 36:39
  for
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  wedding
• 36:40
  venue,
• 36:40
  you
• 36:40
  know,
• 36:41
  I
• 36:41
  think
• 36:41
  some
• 36:41
  couples
• 36:41
  will
• 36:42
  say,
• 36:42
  oh,
• 36:42
  have
• 36:42
  you
• 36:43
  shot
• 36:43
  this
• 36:43
  venue
• 36:43
  before?
• 36:45
  So
• 36:45
  one
• 36:45
  of
• 36:45
  the
• 36:45
  things
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  need
• 36:46
  to
• 36:46
  do
• 36:46
  for
• 36:46
  Instagram,
• 36:46
  to
• 36:47
  have
• 36:47
  like
• 36:47
  some
• 36:47
  of
• 36:48
  those
• 36:48
  couples
• 36:48
  questions
• 36:48
  and
• 36:49
  then
• 36:49
  answer
• 36:49
  them
• 36:49
  to
• 36:49
  how
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  would
• 36:50
  answer
• 36:50
  it
• 36:51
  and
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  say,
• 36:51
  you
• 36:52
  know,
• 36:52
  I
• 36:53
  don't
• 36:53
  care,
• 36:53
  care
• 36:53
  what
• 36:54
  your
• 36:54
  venue
• 36:54
  has,
• 36:55
  you
• 36:55
  know,
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  couldn't
• 36:56
  care
• 36:56
  less.
• 36:56
  I
• 36:56
  couldn't
• 36:57
  care
• 36:57
  less
• 36:57
  what
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  other
• 36:57
  photographer's
• 36:58
  done
• 36:58
  there
• 36:58
  before.
• 36:59
  Let's
• 37:00
  have
• 37:00
  a
• 37:00
  walk
• 37:00
  around
• 37:01
  with
• 37:01
  the
• 37:02
  time
• 37:02
  that
• 37:02
  we've
• 37:02
  got
• 37:02
  and
• 37:03
  see
• 37:03
  what
• 37:03
  we
• 37:03
  can
• 37:03
  create,
• 37:04
  you
• 37:04
  know,
• 37:05
  and
• 37:05
  then
• 37:05
  the
• 37:06
  reaction
• 37:06
  from
• 37:07
  a
• 37:07
  lot
• 37:07
  of
• 37:07
  people
• 37:08
  for
• 37:08
  a
• 37:08
  lot
• 37:08
  of
• 37:08
  venues
• 37:09
  I've
• 37:09
  done
• 37:09
  before
• 37:10
  would
• 37:10
  say,
• 37:10
  oh,
• 37:10
  where's
• 37:11
  that
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  haven't
• 37:11
  seen
• 37:11
  that
• 37:11
  before.
• 37:12
  And
• 37:12
  I'll
• 37:12
  say,
• 37:12
  oh,
• 37:13
  that's
• 37:13
  whatever
• 37:13
  venue.
• 37:14
  And
• 37:14
  they're
• 37:14
  like,
• 37:14
  no
• 37:15
  way.
• 37:15
  Wow,
• 37:16
  that's
• 37:16
  so
• 37:16
  different
• 37:16
  to
• 37:16
  what
• 37:17
  I've
• 37:17
  seen
• 37:17
  before.
• 37:17
  And
• 37:17
  I'm
• 37:17
  like,
• 37:18
  yes.
• 37:19
  You
• 37:19
  know,
• 37:19
  and
• 37:19
  that's
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  kind
• 37:20
  of
• 37:20
  stuff
• 37:20
  that
• 37:20
  I'm
• 37:20
  going
• 37:20
  to
• 37:21
  be
• 37:21
  showing
• 37:21
  on
• 37:21
  Instagram.
• 37:22
  I
• 37:22
  could
• 37:22
  show
• 37:22
  you
• 37:23
  loads
• 37:23
  of
• 37:24
  general
• 37:24
  wedding
• 37:25
  stuff
• 37:25
  that
• 37:25
  I've
• 37:26
  shot,
• 37:26
  you
• 37:26
  know,
• 37:26
  your
• 37:26
  classic
• 37:27
  shots,
• 37:27
  but
• 37:28
  I
• 37:28
  don't
• 37:28
  want
• 37:28
  to
• 37:28
  do
• 37:28
  that
• 37:28
  because
• 37:29
  every
• 37:29
  other
• 37:29
  photographer
• 37:30
  is
• 37:30
  doing
• 37:30
  that.
• 37:30
  You
• 37:31
  know,
• 37:31
  I
• 37:32
  think
• 37:32
  it's
• 37:32
  good
• 37:32
  in
• 37:32
  some
• 37:32
  cases
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  show
• 37:33
  those
• 37:33
  things
• 37:34
  for
• 37:34
  sure.
• 37:34
  But
• 37:35
  I'd
• 37:35
  rather
• 37:35
  show
• 37:35
  off
• 37:36
  the
• 37:36
  more
• 37:36
  power.
• 37:36
  Wow.
• 37:37
  And
• 37:37
  creative
• 37:37
  ones
• 37:38
  because
• 37:38
  that's
• 37:38
  much
• 37:38
  more
• 37:39
  me.
• 37:39
  And
• 37:39
  that's
• 37:39
  why
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  more
• 37:40
  natural
• 37:40
  ones
• 37:41
  particularly
• 37:41
  as
• 37:41
  well,
• 37:42
  that's
• 37:42
  why
• 37:42
  people
• 37:43
  are
• 37:43
  booking
• 37:43
  me.
• 37:43
  They're
• 37:44
  not
• 37:44
  booking
• 37:44
  me
• 37:44
  because
• 37:45
  I'm
• 37:45
  very
• 37:45
  good
• 37:45
  at
• 37:45
  posing.
• 37:46
  I'm
• 37:46
  not
• 37:47
  hands
• 37:47
  up
• 37:47
  high.
• 37:47
  I'm
• 37:48
  not
• 37:48
  good
• 37:48
  at
• 37:48
  posing.
• 37:49
  But
• 37:49
  I
• 37:49
  don't
• 37:49
  want
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  be,
• 37:49
  you
• 37:50
  know,
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  want
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  couple
• 37:50
  to
• 37:51
  just
• 37:51
  be
• 37:51
  themselves.
• 37:51
  And
• 37:52
  after
• 37:52
  an
• 37:52
  engagement
• 37:53
  shoot,
• 37:53
  going
• 37:53
  back
• 37:54
  to
• 37:54
  that,
• 37:54
  they
• 37:54
  can
• 37:55
  see
• 37:55
  how
• 37:55
  completely
• 37:56
  easy
• 37:56
  it
• 37:57
  was
• 37:57
  and
• 37:57
  how
• 37:58
  that
• 37:58
  I'm
• 37:58
  really
• 37:58
  just
• 37:58
  putting
• 37:59
  them
• 37:59
  in
• 37:59
  environments,
• 38:00
  either
• 38:00
  telling
• 38:00
  them
• 38:01
  to
• 38:01
  look
• 38:01
  at
• 38:01
  each
• 38:01
  other
• 38:02
  or
• 38:02
  potentially
• 38:02
  looking
• 38:03
  at
• 38:03
  the
• 38:03
  camera.
• 38:03
  But
• 38:03
  most
• 38:03
  of
• 38:04
  the
• 38:04
  time,
• 38:04
  and
• 38:05
  what
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  learned
• 38:05
  from
• 38:05
  Russ
• 38:06
  Harvey
• 38:06
  was
• 38:07
  to
• 38:07
  get
• 38:07
  them
• 38:07
  to
• 38:07
  look
• 38:07
  at
• 38:07
  each
• 38:08
  other.
• 38:08
  They
• 38:08
  don't
• 38:08
  love
• 38:09
  me,
• 38:09
  they
• 38:09
  love
• 38:09
  each
• 38:10
  other.
• 38:10
  So
• 38:10
  their
• 38:10
  emotion
• 38:11
  is
• 38:11
  going
• 38:12
  to
• 38:12
  happen
• 38:12
  when
• 38:12
  they
• 38:12
  look
• 38:12
  for
• 38:13
  each
• 38:13
  other.
• 38:13
  And
• 38:13
  if
• 38:14
  they
• 38:14
  just,
• 38:14
  just
• 38:14
  laugh
• 38:14
  immediately
• 38:15
  when
• 38:15
  they
• 38:15
  look
• 38:15
  at
• 38:15
  each
• 38:16
  other,
• 38:16
  great.
• 38:16
  That's
• 38:17
  exactly
• 38:17
  what
• 38:17
  I
• 38:17
  want
• 38:17
  because
• 38:18
  it's
• 38:18
  real.
• 38:19
  Love
• 38:19
  that.
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  just
• 38:19
  love
• 38:19
  how
• 38:20
  creative
• 38:20
  you
• 38:20
  are.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  I
• 38:21
  think
• 38:21
  that
• 38:21
  shines
• 38:22
  through
• 38:22
  and
• 38:23
  hopefully
• 38:23
  will
• 38:23
  continue
• 38:24
  to
• 38:24
  shine
• 38:24
  through.
• 38:24
  I
• 38:25
  think
• 38:25
  shouting
• 38:25
  about
• 38:25
  it
• 38:26
  even
• 38:26
  louder
• 38:27
  because
• 38:27
  messages
• 38:28
  like
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  never
• 38:28
  shoot
• 38:29
  the
• 38:29
  same
• 38:29
  place
• 38:29
  twice,
• 38:30
  talking
• 38:30
  about
• 38:31
  why
• 38:31
  you
• 38:31
  use
• 38:32
  color,
• 38:32
  talking
• 38:33
  about
• 38:33
  this
• 38:33
  stuff
• 38:33
  that
• 38:33
  you're
• 38:34
  so
• 38:34
  passionate
• 38:34
  about
• 38:34
  is
• 38:34
  what
• 38:35
  sets
• 38:35
  you
• 38:35
  apart
• 38:35
  and
• 38:36
  is
• 38:36
  what
• 38:36
  makes
• 38:36
  you
• 38:37
  so
• 38:37
  different
• 38:37
  to.
• 38:38
  You
• 38:38
  know,
• 38:38
  there
• 38:39
  may
• 38:39
  be
• 38:39
  500
• 38:40
  other
• 38:40
  photographers
• 38:41
  in
• 38:41
  Bournemouth,
• 38:42
  but
• 38:42
  I
• 38:42
  guarantee
• 38:43
  that
• 38:43
  probably
• 38:43
  at
• 38:44
  least
• 38:44
  498
• 38:45
  of
• 38:45
  them
• 38:45
  don't
• 38:46
  have
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  mindset
• 38:46
  that
• 38:47
  you
• 38:47
  have.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:48
  that's
• 38:48
  what
• 38:48
  makes
• 38:48
  you
• 38:49
  special,
• 38:49
  that's
• 38:49
  what
• 38:49
  makes
• 38:49
  you
• 38:50
  unique,
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  that's
• 38:50
  what
• 38:50
  makes
• 38:50
  you
• 38:51
  attract
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  couples
• 38:52
  that
• 38:52
  want
• 38:52
  that
• 38:52
  creativity,
• 38:53
  that
• 38:53
  want
• 38:53
  that
• 38:53
  color
• 38:54
  and
• 38:54
  want
• 38:54
  something
• 38:55
  bold
• 38:56
  and
• 38:56
  beautiful.
• 38:57
  Now,
• 38:57
  before
• 38:57
  we
• 38:57
  close,
• 38:57
  I
• 38:58
  want
• 38:58
  to
• 38:58
  talk
• 38:58
  briefly
• 38:59
  about
• 38:59
  changes
• 38:59
  you've
• 39:00
  seen
• 39:00
  across
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  industry,
• 39:00
  because
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  have
• 39:01
  been
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  industry
• 39:02
  17
• 39:02
  years.
• 39:03
  We
• 39:03
  talked
• 39:03
  right
• 39:03
  at
• 39:03
  the
• 39:04
  beginning
• 39:04
  about
• 39:04
  how
• 39:04
  back
• 39:05
  in
• 39:05
  the
• 39:05
  day
• 39:05
  it
• 39:05
  was
• 39:05
  all
• 39:05
  about
• 39:06
  magazine
• 39:06
  advertising,
• 39:07
  which
• 39:07
  we
• 39:07
  know
• 39:07
  is
• 39:07
  is
• 39:08
  mostly
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  thing
• 39:08
  of
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  past
• 39:09
  now.
• 39:09
  How
• 39:10
  do
• 39:10
  you
• 39:10
  think
• 39:10
  the
• 39:11
  industry
• 39:11
  has
• 39:11
  shifted
• 39:12
  over
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  last
• 39:13
  17
• 39:13
  years
• 39:13
  and
• 39:13
  what
• 39:14
  are
• 39:14
  you
• 39:14
  seeing
• 39:15
  right
• 39:15
  now
• 39:15
  from
• 39:15
  couples?
• 39:16
  Well,
• 39:16
  I
• 39:16
  think
• 39:16
  from
• 39:17
  a
• 39:17
  photography
• 39:17
  standpoint
• 39:18
  firstly
• 39:19
  I
• 39:19
  think
• 39:19
  all
• 39:20
  photographers
• 39:20
  know
• 39:20
  there's
• 39:21
  been
• 39:21
  trends
• 39:21
  and
• 39:21
  things
• 39:22
  and
• 39:23
  I
• 39:23
  was,
• 39:23
  you
• 39:23
  know,
• 39:24
  one
• 39:24
  of
• 39:24
  those
• 39:24
  people
• 39:25
  who
• 39:25
  went
• 39:26
  slightly
• 39:26
  into
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  vintage
• 39:27
  trend,
• 39:27
  you
• 39:28
  know,
• 39:28
  maybe
• 39:28
  15
• 39:29
  years
• 39:29
  ago
• 39:29
  kind
• 39:29
  of
• 39:29
  thing
• 39:30
  and
• 39:30
  then
• 39:30
  soon
• 39:31
  realized
• 39:32
  this
• 39:32
  looks
• 39:32
  horrible.
• 39:33
  And
• 39:33
  I
• 39:33
  actually,
• 39:33
  you
• 39:33
  know,
• 39:34
  one
• 39:34
  of,
• 39:34
  one
• 39:34
  of
• 39:34
  my
• 39:34
  friends
• 39:35
  of
• 39:35
  mine
• 39:35
  said
• 39:36
  to
• 39:36
  me,
• 39:37
  imagine
• 39:38
  being
• 39:38
  the
• 39:39
  couple
• 39:39
  and
• 39:39
  thinking
• 39:39
  in
• 39:39
  10
• 39:40
  years
• 39:40
  time
• 39:41
  is
• 39:41
  that
• 39:41
  still
• 39:42
  going
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  look
• 39:42
  as
• 39:43
  good
• 39:43
  as
• 39:43
  it
• 39:43
  did
• 39:43
  back
• 39:44
  then
• 39:44
  as
• 39:44
  it
• 39:44
  does
• 39:44
  now?
• 39:45
  And
• 39:46
  most
• 39:46
  of
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  answers
• 39:47
  I
• 39:47
  could
• 39:47
  say
• 39:47
  when
• 39:48
  I
• 39:48
  was
• 39:48
  dabbling
• 39:49
  with
• 39:49
  different
• 39:49
  styles
• 39:49
  and
• 39:50
  things
• 39:50
  would
• 39:50
  be
• 39:50
  no,
• 39:51
  I
• 39:52
  would
• 39:52
  not
• 39:52
  appreciate
• 39:52
  that
• 39:53
  in
• 39:53
  10
• 39:53
  years
• 39:53
  time.
• 39:54
  So
• 39:54
  I
• 39:54
  then
• 39:55
  started
• 39:55
  to
• 39:56
  edit
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  bit
• 39:57
  more
• 39:57
  clean
• 39:58
  so
• 39:58
  that
• 39:58
  it
• 39:59
  could
• 39:59
  be
• 39:59
  did
• 39:59
  stand
• 40:00
  the
• 40:00
  test
• 40:00
  of
• 40:00
  time.
• 40:01
  Obviously
• 40:01
  we're
• 40:02
  seeing
• 40:03
  lots
• 40:03
  of
• 40:03
  different
• 40:03
  trends
• 40:04
  recently
• 40:04
  like
• 40:04
  the
• 40:05
  black
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  white
• 40:05
  blur,
• 40:06
  like
• 40:06
  deliberately
• 40:07
  making
• 40:07
  it
• 40:07
  blurred
• 40:09
  or
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  overly
• 40:11
  flashed
• 40:12
  kind
• 40:12
  of,
• 40:13
  they
• 40:13
  call
• 40:13
  it
• 40:13
  vogue
• 40:14
  style
• 40:14
  I
• 40:14
  think.
• 40:15
  But
• 40:16
  those
• 40:16
  things
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  look
• 40:16
  at
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  think
• 40:17
  and
• 40:17
  the
• 40:17
  reason
• 40:18
  I
• 40:18
  think
• 40:19
  is
• 40:19
  because
• 40:20
  I've
• 40:21
  been
• 40:21
  taught
• 40:21
  very
• 40:21
  differently.
• 40:22
  So
• 40:22
  when
• 40:22
  I
• 40:22
  was
• 40:22
  taught
• 40:23
  by
• 40:23
  different
• 40:24
  photographers
• 40:25
  it
• 40:25
  was
• 40:25
  not
• 40:26
  too
• 40:26
  overly
• 40:26
  flash.
• 40:27
  Yet
• 40:27
  now
• 40:27
  it's
• 40:28
  very
• 40:28
  trendy
• 40:28
  to
• 40:29
  do
• 40:29
  so.
• 40:29
  And
• 40:29
  the
• 40:30
  ones
• 40:30
  that
• 40:30
  I've
• 40:30
  seen
• 40:30
  is
• 40:31
  like
• 40:32
  I'm
• 40:32
  not
• 40:33
  sure
• 40:33
  I,
• 40:33
  I
• 40:34
  would,
• 40:34
  I
• 40:34
  wouldn't
• 40:34
  be
• 40:35
  comfortable
• 40:36
  delivering
• 40:36
  that
• 40:36
  to
• 40:36
  my
• 40:37
  couples.
• 40:38
  It
• 40:38
  looks
• 40:38
  actually
• 40:38
  amateurish,
• 40:39
  just
• 40:40
  my
• 40:40
  opinion,
• 40:40
  but
• 40:40
  it
• 40:41
  looks
• 40:41
  amateurish.
• 40:42
  And
• 40:42
  then
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  ones
• 40:43
  where
• 40:43
  they've
• 40:43
  deliberately
• 40:44
  blurred
• 40:44
  it,
• 40:44
  I
• 40:45
  get
• 40:45
  it
• 40:45
  from
• 40:45
  a
• 40:45
  creative
• 40:46
  standpoint
• 40:46
  sometimes,
• 40:47
  but
• 40:48
  it
• 40:48
  seems
• 40:48
  like
• 40:49
  a
• 40:49
  lot
• 40:49
  of
• 40:49
  editorial
• 40:50
  photographers
• 40:50
  are
• 40:50
  doing
• 40:50
  it
• 40:51
  it.
• 40:51
  And
• 40:51
  my
• 40:52
  worry,
• 40:52
  and
• 40:52
  I've
• 40:53
  posted
• 40:53
  this
• 40:54
  before
• 40:54
  on
• 40:55
  people
• 40:55
  discussing
• 40:55
  the
• 40:56
  same
• 40:56
  kind
• 40:56
  of
• 40:56
  things
• 40:57
  on
• 40:57
  different
• 40:57
  photography
• 40:58
  forums
• 40:58
  and
• 40:58
  things
• 40:59
  is
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  if
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  are
• 41:01
  a
• 41:01
  photographer
• 41:02
  known
• 41:02
  for
• 41:02
  doing
• 41:03
  a
• 41:03
  certain
• 41:03
  style
• 41:04
  and
• 41:04
  certain
• 41:04
  things
• 41:04
  and
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  have
• 41:05
  a
• 41:05
  very
• 41:05
  consistent
• 41:06
  work,
• 41:07
  which
• 41:07
  I
• 41:07
  think
• 41:07
  is
• 41:07
  very
• 41:08
  important
• 41:08
  that
• 41:08
  you
• 41:08
  have
• 41:08
  that
• 41:09
  you're
• 41:09
  not
• 41:09
  just
• 41:10
  all
• 41:10
  over
• 41:10
  the
• 41:10
  place,
• 41:12
  you
• 41:12
  know,
• 41:12
  you
• 41:12
  need
• 41:12
  to
• 41:13
  still
• 41:13
  do
• 41:13
  that
• 41:13
  and
• 41:14
  then
• 41:14
  these
• 41:14
  trends
• 41:15
  happen
• 41:15
  and
• 41:16
  you
• 41:16
  try
• 41:16
  a
• 41:16
  few
• 41:17
  things
• 41:18
  and
• 41:18
  then
• 41:18
  in
• 41:19
  amongst
• 41:19
  this
• 41:19
  beautiful
• 41:20
  work
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  maybe
• 41:20
  some
• 41:21
  of
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  best
• 41:21
  photographers
• 41:22
  in
• 41:22
  the
• 41:22
  country,
• 41:23
  in
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  world,
• 41:24
  and
• 41:24
  then
• 41:24
  you
• 41:24
  get
• 41:24
  some
• 41:24
  blurred
• 41:25
  black
• 41:25
  and
• 41:25
  white
• 41:25
  photographs
• 41:26
  and
• 41:26
  then
• 41:26
  these
• 41:27
  ultra
• 41:27
  flashed
• 41:27
  photographs
• 41:28
  and
• 41:28
  you
• 41:29
  kind
• 41:29
  of
• 41:29
  think
• 41:29
  that's
• 41:30
  different
• 41:30
  to
• 41:30
  what
• 41:30
  you're
• 41:31
  doing
• 41:31
  and
• 41:31
  I
• 41:32
  have
• 41:32
  done
• 41:32
  over
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  many
• 41:33
  years
• 41:33
  and
• 41:33
  maybe
• 41:34
  the
• 41:34
  work
• 41:34
  that
• 41:34
  I've
• 41:35
  followed
• 41:35
  you
• 41:35
  for,
• 41:37
  you
• 41:37
  know,
• 41:37
  it
• 41:37
  looks
• 41:38
  very
• 41:38
  different
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  what
• 41:39
  it
• 41:39
  was.
• 41:40
  Are
• 41:41
  you
• 41:41
  sure
• 41:41
  you're
• 41:41
  just
• 41:41
  not
• 41:42
  jumping
• 41:42
  on
• 41:42
  a
• 41:42
  bandwagon
• 41:43
  there,
• 41:43
  there,
• 41:43
  you
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:44
  and
• 41:44
  then
• 41:44
  trying
• 41:44
  to
• 41:45
  justify
• 41:45
  it,
• 41:46
  you
• 41:46
  know,
• 41:47
  if
• 41:47
  it
• 41:47
  was
• 41:47
  like
• 41:47
  a
• 41:48
  very
• 41:48
  arty
• 41:48
  photographer
• 41:49
  and
• 41:49
  a
• 41:49
  lot
• 41:49
  of
• 41:50
  their
• 41:50
  work
• 41:50
  wasn't
• 41:50
  actually
• 41:51
  in
• 41:51
  focus,
• 41:52
  which,
• 41:53
  you
• 41:53
  know,
• 41:53
  for
• 41:53
  most
• 41:53
  photographers,
• 41:54
  be
• 41:54
  like,
• 41:54
  why
• 41:54
  is
• 41:55
  your
• 41:55
  work
• 41:55
  not
• 41:55
  in
• 41:55
  focus?
• 41:56
  Isn't
• 41:56
  that,
• 41:56
  like,
• 41:56
  the
• 41:56
  main
• 41:57
  thing?
• 41:57
  It
• 41:57
  should
• 41:57
  be,
• 41:58
  you
• 41:58
  know,
• 41:58
  composition
• 41:59
  as
• 41:59
  well.
• 42:00
  You
• 42:01
  know,
• 42:01
  all
• 42:01
  those
• 42:01
  things
• 42:01
  that
• 42:02
  you
• 42:02
  have
• 42:02
  to
• 42:02
  tick
• 42:02
  off
• 42:02
  as
• 42:03
  a
• 42:03
  photographer.
• 42:04
  You
• 42:05
  know,
• 42:05
  it's
• 42:05
  a
• 42:05
  bit.
• 42:06
  I.
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  don't
• 42:06
  want
• 42:07
  couples,
• 42:07
  because
• 42:08
  they
• 42:08
  will.
• 42:08
  They'll
• 42:08
  look
• 42:09
  back
• 42:09
  at
• 42:09
  it
• 42:09
  and
• 42:09
  they'll
• 42:09
  think,
• 42:10
  think,
• 42:10
  you
• 42:10
  know,
• 42:10
  why
• 42:10
  do
• 42:11
  we
• 42:11
  choose
• 42:11
  that
• 42:11
  photographer?
• 42:11
  Because
• 42:12
  I
• 42:12
  didn't
• 42:12
  like
• 42:12
  what
• 42:13
  he
• 42:13
  did
• 42:13
  with
• 42:13
  that.
• 42:13
  I
• 42:14
  much
• 42:14
  prefer
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  actual
• 42:16
  general
• 42:16
  photography,
• 42:17
  maybe,
• 42:17
  you
• 42:17
  know,
• 42:18
  and
• 42:18
  I
• 42:18
  don't
• 42:18
  shoot
• 42:20
  all
• 42:20
  creatively,
• 42:21
  not
• 42:21
  at
• 42:22
  all.
• 42:22
  There's
• 42:22
  creative
• 42:23
  moments
• 42:23
  and
• 42:23
  there's
• 42:24
  creative
• 42:24
  versions
• 42:25
  of
• 42:25
  things
• 42:26
  that
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  like
• 42:27
  to
• 42:27
  showcase
• 42:28
  and
• 42:28
  that
• 42:28
  I
• 42:28
  like
• 42:29
  to
• 42:29
  give
• 42:29
  a
• 42:29
  couple.
• 42:29
  And
• 42:29
  if
• 42:29
  they
• 42:30
  love
• 42:30
  it,
• 42:30
  fantastic.
• 42:31
  And
• 42:31
  if
• 42:31
  they
• 42:31
  don't
• 42:31
  love
• 42:31
  it,
• 42:32
  they
• 42:32
  don't
• 42:32
  have
• 42:32
  to
• 42:32
  use
• 42:32
  it.
• 42:32
  But
• 42:33
  it's
• 42:33
  not
• 42:33
  like
• 42:33
  I'm
• 42:33
  doing
• 42:33
  it
• 42:34
  for
• 42:34
  every
• 42:35
  single
• 42:36
  photograph,
• 42:36
  you
• 42:36
  know,
• 42:37
  So
• 42:37
  I
• 42:37
  just
• 42:38
  hope
• 42:38
  that
• 42:39
  those
• 42:39
  kind
• 42:40
  of
• 42:40
  trends
• 42:41
  won't.
• 42:41
  I
• 42:42
  mean,
• 42:42
  they
• 42:42
  probably
• 42:42
  will,
• 42:43
  but
• 42:43
  they
• 42:43
  won't
• 42:43
  continue
• 42:44
  too
• 42:44
  much,
• 42:45
  you
• 42:45
  know,
• 42:45
  and
• 42:46
  for
• 42:46
  photographers,
• 42:46
  you
• 42:47
  know,
• 42:47
  be
• 42:47
  yourself
• 42:48
  still,
• 42:48
  don't,
• 42:48
  don't
• 42:49
  jump
• 42:49
  on
• 42:49
  bandwagons,
• 42:50
  because
• 42:51
  I
• 42:51
  don't
• 42:51
  think
• 42:51
  it
• 42:51
  helps
• 42:51
  them.
• 42:52
  It
• 42:52
  wouldn't
• 42:52
  help
• 42:52
  me
• 42:53
  to
• 42:53
  do
• 42:53
  that.
• 42:53
  I
• 42:53
  wouldn't
• 42:54
  get,
• 42:54
  you
• 42:54
  know,
• 42:54
  I'd
• 42:55
  get
• 42:55
  maybe
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  few
• 42:56
  more
• 42:56
  bookings
• 42:57
  because
• 42:57
  it's
• 42:58
  the
• 42:58
  now
• 42:58
  thing
• 42:58
  to
• 42:59
  do.
• 42:59
  But
• 42:59
  I
• 43:00
  don't
• 43:00
  really.
• 43:00
  I
• 43:00
  don't
• 43:00
  care
• 43:00
  about
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  now
• 43:01
  thing
• 43:01
  to
• 43:01
  do.
• 43:01
  Do
• 43:02
  I
• 43:02
  care
• 43:02
  about
• 43:02
  what
• 43:02
  I
• 43:03
  do
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  what
• 43:03
  my
• 43:04
  clients
• 43:04
  would
• 43:04
  like?
• 43:04
  You
• 43:05
  know,
• 43:05
  in
• 43:05
  terms
• 43:06
  of
• 43:06
  what
• 43:06
  the
• 43:07
  industry
• 43:07
  is
• 43:07
  doing
• 43:08
  right
• 43:08
  now,
• 43:09
  I
• 43:09
  would
• 43:09
  be
• 43:10
  very
• 43:11
  lucky
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  say,
• 43:12
  hey,
• 43:12
  business
• 43:12
  is
• 43:13
  amazing.
• 43:13
  I'm
• 43:13
  doing
• 43:14
  amazing,
• 43:14
  you
• 43:14
  know.
• 43:14
  Yeah,
• 43:15
  I
• 43:15
  can't
• 43:15
  take
• 43:15
  any
• 43:15
  more
• 43:15
  on.
• 43:16
  I'm
• 43:16
  up
• 43:16
  to
• 43:16
  the
• 43:16
  VAT
• 43:17
  threshold.
• 43:17
  You
• 43:17
  know,
• 43:18
  actually,
• 43:18
  I
• 43:18
  can
• 43:18
  go
• 43:19
  above
• 43:19
  the
• 43:19
  threshold
• 43:20
  ten
• 43:20
  times,
• 43:21
  but
• 43:21
  I
• 43:21
  choose
• 43:21
  not
• 43:21
  to,
• 43:22
  you
• 43:22
  know,
• 43:22
  because
• 43:22
  I
• 43:22
  don't
• 43:22
  want
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  go
• 43:22
  by
• 43:22
  the
• 43:23
  fact
• 43:23
  business
• 43:23
  is
• 43:24
  not
• 43:24
  good.
• 43:24
  Business
• 43:25
  is
• 43:25
  not
• 43:25
  good
• 43:25
  for
• 43:26
  anyone
• 43:26
  at
• 43:26
  the
• 43:26
  moment.
• 43:26
  If
• 43:26
  it
• 43:27
  is,
• 43:27
  they're
• 43:28
  probably
• 43:28
  lying.
• 43:28
  And
• 43:28
  unfortunately,
• 43:29
  a
• 43:30
  lot
• 43:30
  of
• 43:30
  photographers
• 43:30
  in
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  industry,
• 43:32
  you
• 43:32
  know,
• 43:32
  they
• 43:32
  do
• 43:32
  lie.
• 43:33
  They
• 43:33
  post
• 43:33
  like,
• 43:33
  you
• 43:33
  know,
• 43:33
  really,
• 43:34
  really
• 43:34
  good.
• 43:34
  And
• 43:34
  actually,
• 43:35
  if
• 43:35
  you're
• 43:35
  friends
• 43:35
  with
• 43:36
  them,
• 43:36
  you
• 43:36
  do
• 43:36
  know
• 43:36
  that
• 43:36
  they're
• 43:36
  struggling.
• 43:37
  I'm
• 43:37
  struggling.
• 43:38
  I'm
• 43:38
  half
• 43:38
  down
• 43:39
  what
• 43:39
  I've.
• 43:39
  I
• 43:40
  should
• 43:40
  be
• 43:40
  this
• 43:40
  year
• 43:41
  and
• 43:42
  nobody's
• 43:43
  told
• 43:43
  me
• 43:43
  and
• 43:44
  I
• 43:44
  haven't
• 43:44
  worked
• 43:44
  out
• 43:45
  what
• 43:45
  the
• 43:45
  issue
• 43:45
  is
• 43:46
  because
• 43:46
  it
• 43:46
  is
• 43:47
  more
• 43:47
  couples
• 43:48
  than
• 43:48
  anything
• 43:48
  else.
• 43:48
  But
• 43:48
  I
• 43:49
  think
• 43:49
  all
• 43:49
  these
• 43:50
  things
• 43:50
  do
• 43:50
  go
• 43:50
  hand
• 43:50
  in
• 43:51
  hand
• 43:51
  with
• 43:51
  the
• 43:51
  economy.
• 43:52
  We
• 43:52
  know
• 43:52
  individually
• 43:53
  personally
• 43:54
  that
• 43:54
  the
• 43:55
  economy
• 43:55
  is
• 43:55
  very
• 43:55
  tough
• 43:56
  for
• 43:56
  everyone.
• 43:56
  One
• 43:57
  I
• 43:57
  think
• 43:57
  probably
• 43:58
  for
• 43:58
  myself
• 43:59
  I
• 43:59
  do
• 44:00
  generally
• 44:00
  attract
• 44:00
  a
• 44:00
  high
• 44:01
  spend
• 44:01
  couple.
• 44:02
  Not
• 44:03
  a
• 44:03
  super
• 44:03
  expensive
• 44:05
  necessarily
• 44:05
  editorial
• 44:06
  kind
• 44:06
  of
• 44:06
  photographer
• 44:08
  where
• 44:08
  you
• 44:09
  know,
• 44:09
  they're
• 44:09
  spending
• 44:09
  10,
• 44:10
  20,
• 44:10
  30,000
• 44:10
  pounds
• 44:11
  on
• 44:11
  just
• 44:11
  their,
• 44:11
  their
• 44:12
  media
• 44:12
  team,
• 44:13
  but
• 44:13
  above
• 44:14
  average
• 44:14
  spend.
• 44:15
  So,
• 44:16
  you
• 44:16
  know,
• 44:16
  I'm,
• 44:17
  I'm
• 44:17
  mostly
• 44:17
  receiving
• 44:18
  around
• 44:18
  3k
• 44:19
  to
• 44:20
  4,5k
• 44:20
  mark
• 44:22
  for
• 44:22
  most
• 44:22
  of
• 44:22
  my
• 44:22
  weddings.
• 44:23
  A
• 44:23
  lot
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  those
• 44:23
  clients
• 44:24
  who
• 44:24
  were
• 44:24
  spending
• 44:25
  that,
• 44:25
  that
• 44:25
  money
• 44:26
  are
• 44:27
  now
• 44:27
  no
• 44:27
  longer
• 44:28
  spending
• 44:28
  that.
• 44:29
  I
• 44:29
  would
• 44:30
  probably
• 44:30
  think
• 44:31
  that's
• 44:31
  down
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  the
• 44:31
  economy,
• 44:32
  that
• 44:32
  they're
• 44:33
  no
• 44:33
  longer
• 44:33
  earning
• 44:34
  that
• 44:35
  extra
• 44:35
  cash
• 44:35
  that
• 44:35
  they
• 44:35
  used
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  have,
• 44:36
  that
• 44:37
  they
• 44:37
  can
• 44:37
  spend
• 44:38
  that
• 44:38
  little
• 44:38
  bit
• 44:38
  more
• 44:39
  on
• 44:39
  that
• 44:39
  photographer
• 44:40
  or
• 44:40
  that
• 44:40
  decoration
• 44:42
  stylist
• 44:42
  person
• 44:42
  that
• 44:43
  they
• 44:43
  actually
• 44:43
  really
• 44:43
  wanted
• 44:44
  but
• 44:44
  now
• 44:44
  can't
• 44:45
  fall,
• 44:45
  you
• 44:45
  know,
• 44:45
  or
• 44:46
  they
• 44:46
  weren't
• 44:46
  going
• 44:46
  to
• 44:46
  get
• 44:47
  videographer
• 44:47
  but
• 44:47
  now
• 44:47
  they
• 44:48
  can
• 44:48
  afford
• 44:48
  to
• 44:48
  do
• 44:48
  it.
• 44:49
  Now
• 44:49
  they're
• 44:49
  booking
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  content
• 44:50
  creator
• 44:50
  instead
• 44:51
  because
• 44:51
  they
• 44:52
  can't
• 44:52
  afford
• 44:53
  the
• 44:53
  quality
• 44:54
  of
• 44:54
  a
• 44:54
  videographer.
• 44:55
  But
• 44:56
  we're
• 44:56
  also
• 44:56
  having
• 44:57
  Gen
• 44:58
  Z,
• 44:58
  Gen
• 44:58
  X,
• 44:59
  you
• 44:59
  know,
• 44:59
  coming
• 44:59
  through
• 44:59
  and
• 45:00
  things.
• 45:00
  I
• 45:00
  had
• 45:00
  a
• 45:00
  really
• 45:00
  interesting
• 45:01
  conversation
• 45:02
  with
• 45:02
  a
• 45:02
  couple
• 45:02
  of
• 45:02
  videographer
• 45:03
  friends
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  mine
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  other
• 45:04
  day
• 45:04
  that
• 45:04
  they're
• 45:05
  searching
• 45:06
  for
• 45:06
  businesses
• 45:07
  via
• 45:08
  TikTok
• 45:08
  and
• 45:09
  I'm
• 45:09
  like.
• 45:09
  And
• 45:10
  not
• 45:10
  Google.
• 45:10
  And
• 45:11
  I'm
• 45:11
  like,
• 45:11
  what?
• 45:12
  I'm
• 45:13
  not
• 45:13
  on
• 45:13
  TikTok
• 45:14
  and
• 45:14
  flipping
• 45:14
  it.
• 45:15
  I
• 45:15
  don't
• 45:15
  want
• 45:15
  to
• 45:15
  be
• 45:15
  in
• 45:15
  fact
• 45:16
  the
• 45:16
  day
• 45:16
  I
• 45:16
  have
• 45:16
  to
• 45:16
  dance
• 45:17
  on
• 45:17
  TikTok
• 45:18
  to
• 45:18
  get
• 45:18
  work,
• 45:19
  you
• 45:19
  know
• 45:19
  what
• 45:19
  I
• 45:19
  mean?
• 45:20
  It's
• 45:21
  like,
• 45:21
  it's
• 45:21
  probably
• 45:21
  the
• 45:21
  day
• 45:22
  I
• 45:22
  quit.
• 45:22
  You
• 45:22
  know,
• 45:22
  I,
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  don't
• 45:23
  need
• 45:23
  to
• 45:23
  be
• 45:23
  on
• 45:23
  TikTok.
• 45:24
  I
• 45:24
  don't
• 45:24
  want
• 45:24
  to
• 45:24
  be
• 45:24
  on
• 45:25
  TikTok.
• 45:25
  But
• 45:25
  is
• 45:26
  that
• 45:26
  the
• 45:26
  way
• 45:26
  that
• 45:26
  it's
• 45:26
  going?
• 45:27
  Well,
• 45:27
  I
• 45:27
  have
• 45:27
  to
• 45:28
  be.
• 45:28
  In
• 45:28
  order
• 45:28
  to
• 45:28
  be
• 45:30
  a
• 45:30
  potential
• 45:31
  option
• 45:31
  for
• 45:31
  people.
• 45:32
  I,
• 45:33
  I
• 45:33
  think
• 45:33
  actually
• 45:34
  I
• 45:34
  would
• 45:35
  like
• 45:35
  to
• 45:35
  think
• 45:35
  that
• 45:36
  people
• 45:37
  actually
• 45:37
  are
• 45:37
  still
• 45:37
  the
• 45:37
  same
• 45:38
  that
• 45:38
  they
• 45:38
  used
• 45:38
  to
• 45:38
  be.
• 45:39
  Even
• 45:39
  though
• 45:39
  money's
• 45:40
  not
• 45:40
  as
• 45:40
  good
• 45:40
  as
• 45:40
  it
• 45:40
  used
• 45:40
  to
• 45:41
  be
• 45:41
  for
• 45:41
  both
• 45:41
  parties
• 45:43
  in
• 45:43
  that
• 45:43
  I
• 45:44
  think
• 45:45
  that
• 45:46
  it's
• 45:46
  still
• 45:46
  the
• 45:47
  same
• 45:47
  process.
• 45:48
  You
• 45:49
  look
• 45:49
  at
• 45:49
  someone's
• 45:49
  work,
• 45:50
  you
• 45:50
  have
• 45:51
  to
• 45:51
  love
• 45:51
  their
• 45:51
  work
• 45:52
  and
• 45:52
  be
• 45:52
  excited
• 45:52
  about
• 45:53
  it.
• 45:54
  And
• 45:54
  then
• 45:54
  you
• 45:54
  get
• 45:55
  in
• 45:55
  touch
• 45:55
  with
• 45:55
  them
• 45:56
  whatever
• 45:56
  way
• 45:56
  you
• 45:57
  want
• 45:57
  to
• 45:57
  get
• 45:57
  in
• 45:57
  touch
• 45:57
  with
• 45:57
  them.
• 45:57
  Whether
• 45:57
  it's
• 45:58
  DMing
• 45:58
  them,
• 45:59
  whether
• 45:59
  it's
• 45:59
  this
• 45:59
  came
• 46:00
  up
• 46:00
  as
• 46:00
  well,
• 46:00
  Snapchatting
• 46:01
  them.
• 46:02
  It's
• 46:02
  like
• 46:02
  I
• 46:03
  don't
• 46:03
  have
• 46:03
  a
• 46:03
  Snapchat,
• 46:04
  you
• 46:04
  know,
• 46:05
  if
• 46:05
  it's,
• 46:05
  if
• 46:06
  it's
• 46:06
  whatsapping
• 46:06
  them,
• 46:06
  is
• 46:07
  it
• 46:07
  emailing
• 46:07
  them
• 46:07
  Great.
• 46:08
  It's
• 46:09
  still
• 46:09
  the
• 46:09
  same
• 46:09
  process
• 46:09
  in
• 46:10
  my
• 46:10
  mind,
• 46:10
  but
• 46:11
  they're
• 46:11
  still
• 46:11
  going
• 46:11
  to
• 46:11
  love
• 46:11
  the
• 46:11
  work.
• 46:12
  In
• 46:12
  order
• 46:12
  to
• 46:12
  book
• 46:13
  you
• 46:13
  this,
• 46:13
  they
• 46:13
  still
• 46:13
  got
• 46:13
  to
• 46:14
  spend
• 46:14
  that
• 46:14
  time
• 46:15
  to
• 46:15
  research
• 46:15
  you
• 46:16
  and
• 46:16
  get
• 46:17
  used
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  you
• 46:17
  and,
• 46:17
  you
• 46:18
  know,
• 46:18
  and
• 46:18
  go
• 46:18
  from
• 46:18
  there.
• 46:19
  Really.
• 46:19
  I
• 46:20
  don't
• 46:20
  think
• 46:20
  anything
• 46:21
  else
• 46:21
  is
• 46:21
  going
• 46:21
  to
• 46:22
  really
• 46:22
  change
• 46:23
  too
• 46:23
  much.
• 46:23
  Just
• 46:24
  the
• 46:24
  way
• 46:24
  in
• 46:24
  which
• 46:25
  they're
• 46:25
  finding
• 46:26
  you.
• 46:26
  Yeah,
• 46:27
  absolutely.
• 46:27
  It's
• 46:27
  a
• 46:28
  turbulent
• 46:28
  time
• 46:28
  in
• 46:29
  the
• 46:29
  industry.
• 46:29
  Thank
• 46:29
  you
• 46:29
  for
• 46:30
  your
• 46:30
  honesty.
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  think
• 46:31
  one
• 46:31
  of
• 46:31
  the
• 46:31
  things
• 46:31
  I
• 46:31
  say
• 46:31
  a
• 46:32
  lot
• 46:32
  on
• 46:32
  this
• 46:32
  podcast
• 46:32
  is
• 46:33
  don't
• 46:33
  look
• 46:33
  left
• 46:34
  and
• 46:34
  right
• 46:34
  and
• 46:34
  compare
• 46:34
  yourself
• 46:35
  to
• 46:35
  what's
• 46:35
  going
• 46:35
  on
• 46:35
  on
• 46:35
  Instagram.
• 46:36
  Because
• 46:36
  like
• 46:37
  you
• 46:37
  said,
• 46:37
  it's
• 46:38
  not
• 46:38
  always
• 46:38
  the
• 46:38
  full
• 46:38
  truth.
• 46:39
  And
• 46:39
  actually
• 46:39
  we
• 46:40
  can
• 46:40
  only
• 46:41
  look
• 46:41
  at
• 46:41
  what
• 46:41
  we've
• 46:41
  done
• 46:41
  in
• 46:42
  the
• 46:42
  past
• 46:42
  and
• 46:42
  compare
• 46:42
  ourselves
• 46:43
  to
• 46:43
  that.
• 46:43
  And
• 46:43
  it
• 46:43
  is
• 46:43
  a
• 46:43
  turbulent
• 46:44
  time.
• 46:44
  It's
• 46:44
  turbulent
• 46:45
  in
• 46:45
  the
• 46:45
  economy.
• 46:45
  I
• 46:45
  do
• 46:45
  believe
• 46:46
  there
• 46:46
  is
• 46:46
  still
• 46:47
  money
• 46:47
  and
• 46:47
  weddings
• 46:47
  and
• 46:47
  bookings
• 46:48
  out
• 46:48
  there.
• 46:48
  One
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  the
• 46:48
  things
• 46:49
  we've
• 46:49
  discussed
• 46:49
  before
• 46:49
  is
• 46:50
  that
• 46:50
  definitely
• 46:51
  in
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  higher
• 46:51
  spend
• 46:52
  couples,
• 46:52
  we're
• 46:52
  seeing
• 46:53
  a
• 46:53
  shortening
• 46:53
  in
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  timeframe
• 46:54
  between
• 46:55
  engagement
• 46:56
  and
• 46:56
  booking
• 46:56
  and
• 46:57
  having
• 46:57
  their
• 46:57
  wedding
• 46:58
  rather
• 46:58
  than
• 46:58
  before.
• 46:59
  It
• 46:59
  was
• 46:59
  always
• 46:59
  consistently
• 47:00
  one
• 47:00
  to
• 47:00
  two
• 47:00
  years
• 47:01
  before
• 47:01
  the
• 47:01
  wedding.
• 47:01
  Quite
• 47:02
  often
• 47:02
  now
• 47:02
  people
• 47:02
  are
• 47:03
  getting
• 47:03
  engaged
• 47:03
  and
• 47:03
  then
• 47:03
  booking
• 47:04
  and
• 47:04
  then
• 47:04
  having
• 47:04
  their
• 47:04
  wedding
• 47:05
  within
• 47:05
  six
• 47:05
  to
• 47:06
  nine
• 47:06
  to
• 47:06
  12
• 47:06
  months,
• 47:06
  months
• 47:07
  after
• 47:07
  the
• 47:07
  fact.
• 47:07
  I
• 47:08
  think
• 47:08
  that's
• 47:08
  a
• 47:08
  big
• 47:08
  change.
• 47:09
  But
• 47:09
  I
• 47:09
  do
• 47:09
  think
• 47:09
  one
• 47:10
  of
• 47:10
  the
• 47:10
  key
• 47:10
  messages
• 47:11
  that
• 47:11
  I've
• 47:12
  been
• 47:12
  saying
• 47:12
  a
• 47:12
  lot
• 47:12
  is
• 47:13
  that
• 47:13
  we
• 47:13
  are
• 47:13
  in
• 47:14
  a
• 47:14
  marketing
• 47:14
  overwhelm.
• 47:15
  We
• 47:15
  are
• 47:15
  in
• 47:15
  this
• 47:15
  crazy
• 47:16
  TikTok,
• 47:16
  WhatsApp
• 47:17
  noisy
• 47:17
  culture.
• 47:18
  But
• 47:18
  one
• 47:19
  of
• 47:19
  the
• 47:19
  things
• 47:19
  we
• 47:19
  can
• 47:19
  do
• 47:20
  in
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  to
• 47:21
  stand
• 47:21
  out
• 47:21
  is
• 47:22
  to
• 47:22
  keep
• 47:22
  it
• 47:22
  simple
• 47:23
  and
• 47:23
  to
• 47:23
  remember
• 47:23
  that
• 47:23
  consistency
• 47:24
  is
• 47:24
  key.
• 47:24
  So,
• 47:25
  yes,
• 47:25
  doing
• 47:26
  all
• 47:26
  this
• 47:26
  flashy
• 47:26
  new
• 47:27
  stuff
• 47:27
  may
• 47:27
  get
• 47:27
  you
• 47:27
  a
• 47:28
  short,
• 47:28
  quick
• 47:28
  win,
• 47:29
  but
• 47:29
  actually
• 47:30
  it
• 47:31
  may
• 47:31
  not
• 47:31
  be
• 47:31
  sustainable
• 47:32
  in
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  future.
• 47:33
  And
• 47:33
  so
• 47:33
  sometimes
• 47:34
  it's
• 47:34
  about
• 47:34
  having
• 47:35
  that
• 47:35
  consistency,
• 47:36
  continuing
• 47:36
  to
• 47:36
  have
• 47:37
  that
• 47:37
  belief
• 47:37
  in
• 47:37
  your
• 47:37
  work.
• 47:38
  Yes.
• 47:38
  Being
• 47:38
  proactive
• 47:39
  and
• 47:39
  making
• 47:39
  sure
• 47:39
  you're
• 47:40
  getting
• 47:40
  in
• 47:40
  front
• 47:40
  of
• 47:40
  the
• 47:40
  right
• 47:40
  people.
• 47:41
  Yes.
• 47:41
  Making
• 47:42
  sure
• 47:42
  that
• 47:42
  we're
• 47:42
  being
• 47:43
  seen
• 47:43
  by
• 47:43
  enough
• 47:43
  people.
• 47:44
  Because
• 47:44
  if
• 47:44
  we're
• 47:44
  not
• 47:44
  seen
• 47:44
  by
• 47:45
  enough
• 47:45
  people,
• 47:45
  we'll
• 47:45
  never
• 47:46
  get
• 47:46
  the
• 47:46
  work.
• 47:46
  But
• 47:47
  it's
• 47:47
  not
• 47:47
  about
• 47:48
  finding
• 47:48
  a
• 47:48
  quick
• 47:49
  fix
• 47:49
  that's
• 47:50
  going
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  change
• 47:51
  everything
• 47:51
  overnight.
• 47:52
  It's
• 47:52
  about
• 47:52
  being
• 47:52
  consistent
• 47:53
  and
• 47:53
  kind
• 47:54
  of
• 47:54
  working
• 47:54
  through
• 47:54
  those
• 47:55
  hurdles
• 47:55
  because
• 47:55
  it
• 47:56
  will
• 47:56
  come
• 47:56
  back.
• 47:56
  If
• 47:56
  we
• 47:57
  put
• 47:57
  the
• 47:57
  time
• 47:57
  and
• 47:57
  energy
• 47:57
  into
• 47:58
  building
• 47:58
  relationships,
• 47:59
  to
• 47:59
  putting
• 47:59
  ourself
• 48:00
  out
• 48:00
  there,
• 48:00
  to
• 48:00
  reaching
• 48:01
  more
• 48:01
  people
• 48:01
  and
• 48:02
  being
• 48:02
  clear
• 48:02
  in
• 48:02
  our
• 48:03
  messaging
• 48:03
  and
• 48:03
  why
• 48:03
  we
• 48:03
  are
• 48:04
  worth
• 48:04
  booking
• 48:05
  and
• 48:05
  worth
• 48:05
  paying
• 48:05
  for,
• 48:06
  that's
• 48:06
  when
• 48:06
  we
• 48:07
  find
• 48:07
  success.
• 48:08
  I
• 48:08
  think
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  other
• 48:09
  thing
• 48:09
  as
• 48:09
  well
• 48:09
  is
• 48:09
  that
• 48:10
  I
• 48:10
  think
• 48:10
  that
• 48:10
  even
• 48:10
  though
• 48:10
  the,
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  Gen
• 48:11
  Z,
• 48:12
  Gen
• 48:12
  Y
• 48:13
  generation
• 48:14
  is
• 48:14
  doing
• 48:15
  this
• 48:15
  now,
• 48:16
  then
• 48:16
  they're
• 48:16
  going
• 48:17
  to
• 48:17
  grow
• 48:17
  up
• 48:17
  like
• 48:18
  we
• 48:18
  grew
• 48:18
  up,
• 48:18
  you
• 48:19
  know,
• 48:19
  and
• 48:19
  I
• 48:19
  think
• 48:20
  times
• 48:20
  are
• 48:21
  going
• 48:21
  to
• 48:21
  change
• 48:21
  and
• 48:22
  also
• 48:22
  platforms
• 48:23
  are
• 48:23
  going
• 48:23
  to
• 48:23
  change.
• 48:24
  We
• 48:24
  don't
• 48:24
  know
• 48:24
  in
• 48:24
  two
• 48:24
  years
• 48:25
  time.
• 48:25
  Instagram
• 48:25
  might
• 48:25
  be
• 48:26
  a
• 48:26
  thing
• 48:26
  of
• 48:26
  the
• 48:26
  past.
• 48:26
  TikTok
• 48:27
  may
• 48:27
  be
• 48:27
  a
• 48:27
  thing
• 48:27
  of
• 48:28
  the
• 48:28
  past.
• 48:28
  We'd
• 48:28
  have
• 48:28
  to
• 48:28
  try
• 48:29
  something
• 48:29
  new
• 48:29
  or
• 48:29
  go
• 48:29
  back
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  actually
• 48:30
  what
• 48:30
  has
• 48:30
  always
• 48:31
  worked
• 48:31
  and
• 48:32
  that.
• 48:32
  Searching
• 48:32
  on
• 48:33
  Google
• 48:33
  pretty
• 48:34
  much,
• 48:34
  or
• 48:34
  word
• 48:35
  of
• 48:35
  mouth,
• 48:35
  you
• 48:35
  know,
• 48:36
  for
• 48:36
  most
• 48:36
  people
• 48:36
  and
• 48:37
  through
• 48:37
  wedding
• 48:37
  planners
• 48:38
  and
• 48:38
  things
• 48:38
  like
• 48:38
  that,
• 48:39
  you
• 48:40
  know.
• 48:40
  So
• 48:40
  I
• 48:40
  think
• 48:40
  that,
• 48:41
  I
• 48:41
  think
• 48:41
  the
• 48:41
  younger
• 48:42
  generation,
• 48:42
  they
• 48:42
  were
• 48:43
  kind
• 48:43
  of
• 48:43
  worrying
• 48:43
  about
• 48:43
  it
• 48:43
  and
• 48:43
  thinking
• 48:44
  we
• 48:44
  need
• 48:44
  to
• 48:44
  adapt
• 48:44
  to
• 48:45
  them.
• 48:45
  I
• 48:45
  think
• 48:45
  they
• 48:46
  will
• 48:46
  change
• 48:47
  because,
• 48:48
  you
• 48:48
  know,
• 48:48
  when
• 48:48
  they
• 48:48
  get
• 48:49
  full
• 48:49
  time
• 48:49
  jobs,
• 48:50
  what
• 48:50
  are
• 48:50
  they
• 48:51
  going
• 48:51
  to
• 48:51
  snapchat
• 48:51
  a
• 48:52
  business
• 48:52
  to
• 48:52
  get
• 48:52
  a
• 48:52
  job?
• 48:53
  I
• 48:53
  very
• 48:53
  much
• 48:54
  doubt
• 48:54
  it.
• 48:54
  They're
• 48:54
  going
• 48:54
  to
• 48:55
  have
• 48:55
  to
• 48:55
  learn
• 48:56
  that
• 48:56
  they
• 48:56
  need
• 48:56
  to
• 48:57
  become
• 48:57
  more
• 48:57
  professional.
• 48:58
  And
• 48:59
  you
• 48:59
  use
• 48:59
  that
• 49:00
  within
• 49:00
  your
• 49:00
  own
• 49:00
  personal
• 49:00
  life
• 49:01
  and
• 49:01
  you'll
• 49:01
  then
• 49:02
  use
• 49:02
  that
• 49:02
  to
• 49:02
  then
• 49:02
  contact
• 49:03
  people
• 49:03
  that
• 49:04
  you
• 49:04
  want
• 49:04
  a
• 49:04
  professional
• 49:04
  service
• 49:05
  from
• 49:05
  and
• 49:05
  not
• 49:06
  in
• 49:06
  a,
• 49:07
  a
• 49:07
  very,
• 49:07
  you
• 49:07
  know,
• 49:07
  sort
• 49:08
  of
• 49:08
  juvenile
• 49:08
  way.
• 49:09
  Yeah,
• 49:09
  absolutely.
• 49:10
  And
• 49:10
  I
• 49:10
  think
• 49:10
  as
• 49:11
  well
• 49:11
  we
• 49:11
  have
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  look
• 49:11
  at
• 49:11
  the
• 49:11
  bigger
• 49:12
  brands
• 49:12
  and
• 49:12
  see
• 49:12
  what
• 49:12
  they're
• 49:13
  doing
• 49:13
  too.
• 49:13
  That's
• 49:13
  one
• 49:13
  of
• 49:14
  the
• 49:14
  things
• 49:14
  I
• 49:14
  say
• 49:15
  all
• 49:15
  the
• 49:15
  time.
• 49:15
  Look
• 49:15
  at
• 49:15
  how
• 49:16
  the
• 49:16
  bigger
• 49:16
  brands
• 49:17
  are
• 49:17
  changing.
• 49:17
  They're
• 49:17
  not
• 49:18
  changing
• 49:18
  massively,
• 49:18
  but
• 49:19
  they're
• 49:19
  maybe
• 49:19
  making
• 49:20
  small
• 49:20
  shifts.
• 49:21
  So
• 49:21
  allowing
• 49:21
  someone
• 49:21
  to
• 49:22
  message
• 49:22
  you
• 49:22
  via
• 49:22
  WhatsApp,
• 49:23
  if
• 49:23
  that's
• 49:23
  someone's
• 49:23
  preferred
• 49:24
  message,
• 49:24
  like
• 49:25
  now
• 49:25
  I
• 49:25
  can
• 49:25
  message
• 49:25
  my
• 49:26
  energy
• 49:26
  supplier
• 49:26
  and
• 49:26
  we
• 49:27
  can
• 49:27
  have
• 49:27
  a
• 49:27
  lovely
• 49:27
  old
• 49:27
  chat
• 49:28
  on
• 49:28
  WhatsApp
• 49:28
  if
• 49:29
  I
• 49:29
  choose
• 49:29
  to
• 49:29
  ra
• 49:30
  than
• 49:30
  going
• 49:30
  through
• 49:30
  virtual
• 49:30
  chat
• 49:31
  or
• 49:31
  rather
• 49:31
  than
• 49:31
  going
• 49:32
  through
• 49:32
  a
• 49:32
  phone
• 49:33
  call.
• 49:33
  So
• 49:33
  I
• 49:33
  think
• 49:33
  it's
• 49:33
  just
• 49:34
  being
• 49:34
  open
• 49:34
  to
• 49:35
  those
• 49:35
  options
• 49:35
  but
• 49:35
  without
• 49:35
  changing
• 49:36
  everything.
• 49:36
  It
• 49:37
  was
• 49:37
  also
• 49:37
  in
• 49:37
  the
• 49:37
  news
• 49:37
  today
• 49:38
  about
• 49:38
  how
• 49:39
  a
• 49:39
  lot
• 49:40
  of
• 49:40
  couples
• 49:41
  are
• 49:41
  not
• 49:41
  liking
• 49:43
  customer
• 49:44
  service.
• 49:44
  That
• 49:44
  customer
• 49:45
  service
• 49:45
  has
• 49:45
  gone
• 49:45
  down
• 49:46
  quite
• 49:46
  substantially
• 49:47
  because
• 49:47
  they
• 49:47
  don't
• 49:48
  want
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  speak
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  an
• 49:48
  AI
• 49:49
  bot,
• 49:49
  they
• 49:50
  want
• 49:50
  to
• 49:50
  speak
• 49:50
  to
• 49:50
  a
• 49:50
  real
• 49:50
  human
• 49:50
  being.
• 49:51
  So
• 49:51
  I
• 49:51
  think
• 49:52
  that
• 49:52
  that
• 49:52
  might
• 49:52
  be
• 49:52
  an
• 49:53
  interesting
• 49:53
  insight
• 49:54
  into
• 49:54
  it
• 49:54
  all
• 49:54
  as
• 49:54
  well.
• 49:55
  Yeah,
• 49:55
  absolutely.
• 49:56
  A
• 49:56
  bit
• 49:56
  more
• 49:56
  human
• 49:56
  connection.
• 49:57
  And
• 49:57
  actually
• 49:57
  what
• 49:58
  I
• 49:58
  keep
• 49:58
  saying
• 49:58
  is
• 49:58
  we
• 49:58
  just
• 49:58
  need
• 49:59
  to
• 49:59
  get
• 49:59
  back
• 49:59
  out
• 49:59
  there.
• 49:59
  We
• 49:59
  need
• 49:59
  to
• 50:00
  go
• 50:00
  back
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  the
• 50:00
  basics
• 50:01
  of
• 50:01
  meeting
• 50:02
  people,
• 50:02
  networking,
• 50:03
  building
• 50:03
  relationships,
• 50:04
  kind
• 50:04
  of
• 50:04
  like
• 50:05
  we
• 50:05
  had
• 50:05
  to
• 50:05
  do
• 50:05
  when
• 50:06
  we
• 50:06
  were
• 50:06
  starting
• 50:06
  in
• 50:06
  our
• 50:06
  businesses
• 50:07
  and
• 50:07
  kind
• 50:08
  of
• 50:08
  get
• 50:08
  word
• 50:08
  out,
• 50:08
  word
• 50:09
  of
• 50:09
  mouth
• 50:09
  out
• 50:09
  there.
• 50:09
  And
• 50:09
  I
• 50:09
  think
• 50:10
  when
• 50:10
  we're
• 50:10
  in
• 50:10
  the
• 50:10
  industry
• 50:10
  a
• 50:11
  long
• 50:11
  time,
• 50:12
  sometimes
• 50:12
  there
• 50:13
  comes
• 50:13
  seasons
• 50:13
  where
• 50:13
  we
• 50:14
  have
• 50:14
  to
• 50:14
  go
• 50:14
  and
• 50:14
  do
• 50:14
  that
• 50:15
  again.
• 50:15
  Nick.
• 50:15
  It
• 50:16
  has
• 50:16
  Been
• 50:16
  such
• 50:16
  a
• 50:16
  pleasure
• 50:17
  talking
• 50:17
  to
• 50:17
  you,
• 50:18
  hearing
• 50:18
  more
• 50:18
  about
• 50:18
  your
• 50:19
  journey.
• 50:19
  As
• 50:19
  I
• 50:19
  said
• 50:19
  earlier,
• 50:20
  if
• 50:20
  people
• 50:20
  are
• 50:20
  interested
• 50:21
  in
• 50:21
  your
• 50:21
  work,
• 50:21
  they
• 50:21
  must
• 50:21
  go
• 50:22
  and
• 50:22
  have
• 50:22
  a
• 50:22
  look
• 50:22
  at
• 50:22
  your
• 50:22
  website.
• 50:23
  Go
• 50:23
  and
• 50:23
  have
• 50:23
  a
• 50:24
  look
• 50:24
  at
• 50:24
  your
• 50:24
  Instagram.
• 50:25
  I
• 50:26
  always
• 50:26
  end
• 50:26
  the
• 50:26
  podcast
• 50:27
  with
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  same
• 50:27
  question.
• 50:28
  So
• 50:28
  I'm
• 50:28
  going
• 50:28
  to
• 50:28
  pose
• 50:28
  that
• 50:28
  to
• 50:29
  you
• 50:29
  now,
• 50:29
  which
• 50:29
  is
• 50:29
  what's
• 50:30
  one
• 50:30
  thing
• 50:30
  you
• 50:30
  wish
• 50:30
  you'd
• 50:31
  known
• 50:31
  sooner
• 50:32
  in
• 50:32
  your
• 50:32
  own
• 50:32
  business?
• 50:33
  Business.
• 50:33
  Have
• 50:33
  you
• 50:34
  ever
• 50:34
  heard
• 50:34
  of
• 50:34
  a
• 50:34
  guy
• 50:34
  called
• 50:34
  Simon
• 50:35
  Squibb?
• 50:35
  No.
• 50:36
  That's
• 50:36
  fine.
• 50:37
  So
• 50:37
  he's
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  guy
• 50:37
  who's
• 50:38
  been
• 50:38
  quite
• 50:38
  sort
• 50:38
  of
• 50:38
  viral
• 50:39
  on
• 50:39
  Instagram
• 50:39
  and
• 50:39
  different
• 50:40
  platforms,
• 50:41
  asking
• 50:41
  what
• 50:42
  is
• 50:42
  your
• 50:42
  dream?
• 50:42
  And
• 50:43
  going
• 50:43
  to
• 50:43
  people
• 50:43
  in
• 50:43
  the
• 50:44
  street
• 50:44
  and
• 50:44
  asking
• 50:44
  what
• 50:44
  their
• 50:44
  dream
• 50:45
  is
• 50:45
  and
• 50:45
  then
• 50:46
  potentially
• 50:46
  giving
• 50:46
  them
• 50:47
  money
• 50:47
  to
• 50:47
  make
• 50:47
  that
• 50:47
  dream
• 50:48
  come
• 50:48
  true
• 50:48
  or
• 50:49
  proving
• 50:49
  themselves
• 50:50
  first.
• 50:50
  Say,
• 50:51
  I
• 50:51
  want
• 50:51
  to
• 50:51
  be
• 50:51
  a
• 50:51
  cake
• 50:52
  maker.
• 50:52
  Okay,
• 50:53
  I'll
• 50:53
  come
• 50:53
  back
• 50:53
  here
• 50:53
  tomorrow
• 50:54
  and
• 50:54
  give,
• 50:55
  you
• 50:55
  know,
• 50:55
  will
• 50:55
  you
• 50:55
  give
• 50:55
  me
• 50:55
  a
• 50:56
  cake
• 50:56
  that
• 50:56
  I
• 50:56
  can
• 50:56
  try
• 50:56
  and
• 50:57
  then
• 50:57
  I'll
• 50:57
  invest
• 50:57
  in
• 50:57
  you.
• 50:58
  You
• 50:58
  know,
• 50:58
  things
• 50:58
  are
• 50:58
  that.
• 50:59
  That
• 50:59
  really
• 50:59
  nice
• 51:00
  guy,
• 51:01
  what
• 51:01
  he's
• 51:02
  trying
• 51:02
  to
• 51:02
  promote
• 51:02
  is
• 51:03
  to
• 51:03
  change
• 51:04
  the
• 51:04
  educational
• 51:04
  system,
• 51:06
  which
• 51:06
  I
• 51:06
  thoroughly
• 51:07
  back
• 51:08
  him
• 51:08
  with.
• 51:08
  Because
• 51:10
  we
• 51:10
  were
• 51:11
  not
• 51:11
  taught,
• 51:11
  even
• 51:11
  though
• 51:12
  I
• 51:12
  did
• 51:12
  advertising
• 51:12
  and
• 51:12
  marketing
• 51:13
  and
• 51:13
  business
• 51:13
  was
• 51:14
  part
• 51:14
  of
• 51:14
  that
• 51:14
  as
• 51:15
  a
• 51:15
  degree.
• 51:16
  We're
• 51:16
  not
• 51:16
  told
• 51:16
  that
• 51:17
  in
• 51:17
  secondary
• 51:17
  school,
• 51:18
  which
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  think
• 51:19
  we
• 51:19
  really
• 51:19
  should
• 51:19
  be
• 51:20
  taught
• 51:21
  being
• 51:21
  an
• 51:21
  entrepreneur,
• 51:22
  being
• 51:22
  a
• 51:22
  business
• 51:22
  owner,
• 51:23
  being
• 51:23
  self
• 51:23
  employed,
• 51:24
  being
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  sole
• 51:25
  trader,
• 51:27
  so
• 51:27
  that
• 51:27
  when
• 51:28
  you
• 51:28
  finish
• 51:28
  your
• 51:28
  job,
• 51:29
  sorry,
• 51:29
  finish
• 51:30
  education,
• 51:31
  you
• 51:31
  can
• 51:32
  go
• 51:32
  into
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  job,
• 51:33
  freelance
• 51:34
  by
• 51:34
  yourself,
• 51:35
  do
• 51:35
  your
• 51:36
  own
• 51:36
  business.
• 51:36
  But
• 51:36
  we're
• 51:36
  not
• 51:36
  taught
• 51:37
  the
• 51:37
  ins
• 51:37
  and
• 51:37
  outs
• 51:37
  of
• 51:38
  it.
• 51:38
  We're
• 51:38
  not
• 51:38
  taught
• 51:39
  the
• 51:39
  basic
• 51:40
  accountancy
• 51:41
  or
• 51:42
  the
• 51:42
  fact
• 51:42
  that,
• 51:42
  oh
• 51:43
  yeah,
• 51:43
  okay,
• 51:43
  you're
• 51:43
  going
• 51:43
  to
• 51:43
  need
• 51:44
  a
• 51:44
  logo,
• 51:44
  you're
• 51:45
  going
• 51:45
  to
• 51:45
  need
• 51:45
  a
• 51:45
  graphic
• 51:45
  designer
• 51:46
  to
• 51:46
  help
• 51:46
  you
• 51:46
  different
• 51:46
  things
• 51:47
  depending
• 51:47
  on
• 51:47
  what
• 51:48
  you're
• 51:48
  pushing.
• 51:49
  You
• 51:49
  know,
• 51:50
  you're
• 51:50
  going
• 51:50
  to
• 51:50
  need
• 51:50
  help
• 51:51
  with
• 51:51
  a
• 51:51
  website,
• 51:51
  you're
• 51:52
  going
• 51:52
  to
• 51:52
  need
• 51:52
  help
• 51:52
  with
• 51:52
  marketing
• 51:53
  and
• 51:53
  SEO
• 51:54
  and
• 51:54
  PPC
• 51:55
  and
• 51:55
  meta
• 51:55
  ras
• 51:56
  and
• 51:56
  things
• 51:57
  and
• 51:57
  loads
• 51:58
  of
• 51:58
  other
• 51:58
  things
• 51:58
  I
• 51:58
  can't
• 51:59
  even
• 51:59
  think
• 51:59
  of
• 51:59
  at
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  moment.
• 52:00
  But
• 52:00
  we're
• 52:01
  not
• 52:01
  taught
• 52:01
  that
• 52:01
  in
• 52:01
  schools,
• 52:02
  they're
• 52:03
  things
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  think
• 52:04
  we
• 52:04
  should
• 52:04
  be
• 52:04
  taught
• 52:05
  a
• 52:05
  lot
• 52:05
  more
• 52:06
  of
• 52:06
  how
• 52:06
  to
• 52:06
  run
• 52:06
  a
• 52:06
  business.
• 52:07
  Not
• 52:08
  just
• 52:08
  to
• 52:08
  learn
• 52:09
  your
• 52:09
  specific
• 52:10
  subject
• 52:10
  area
• 52:11
  and
• 52:11
  then
• 52:11
  find
• 52:11
  a
• 52:12
  job
• 52:12
  in
• 52:12
  it,
• 52:12
  because
• 52:13
  that
• 52:13
  doesn't
• 52:13
  always
• 52:13
  work
• 52:13
  out.
• 52:14
  In
• 52:14
  fact,
• 52:14
  my
• 52:14
  degree
• 52:15
  that
• 52:15
  I
• 52:15
  got,
• 52:16
  I
• 52:16
  used
• 52:16
  to
• 52:16
  be
• 52:17
  working
• 52:17
  for
• 52:17
  Bournemouth
• 52:17
  University.
• 52:17
  University.
• 52:18
  And
• 52:19
  then
• 52:19
  I
• 52:20
  went
• 52:20
  to
• 52:20
  university
• 52:21
  because
• 52:21
  again,
• 52:21
  they
• 52:21
  ran
• 52:21
  out
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  money.
• 52:22
  So
• 52:22
  I
• 52:22
  thought,
• 52:23
  what
• 52:23
  do
• 52:23
  I
• 52:23
  do
• 52:23
  now?
• 52:23
  So
• 52:23
  I
• 52:23
  went
• 52:24
  to
• 52:24
  university.
• 52:25
  But
• 52:25
  that
• 52:26
  job
• 52:26
  I
• 52:26
  got
• 52:26
  was
• 52:27
  with
• 52:27
  a
• 52:27
  friend
• 52:27
  of
• 52:27
  mine,
• 52:28
  not
• 52:28
  in
• 52:28
  advertising
• 52:29
  and
• 52:29
  marketing,
• 52:29
  but
• 52:30
  in
• 52:30
  web
• 52:30
  and
• 52:30
  graphic
• 52:30
  Design
• 52:31
  what
• 52:31
  I
• 52:31
  used
• 52:31
  to
• 52:31
  do
• 52:31
  before
• 52:32
  I
• 52:33
  started
• 52:33
  things,
• 52:33
  you
• 52:34
  know,
• 52:34
  And
• 52:35
  I've
• 52:35
  done
• 52:35
  a
• 52:35
  number
• 52:35
  of
• 52:35
  jobs
• 52:36
  still
• 52:36
  like
• 52:36
  that.
• 52:37
  So
• 52:37
  I
• 52:37
  didn't
• 52:37
  really
• 52:37
  need
• 52:38
  my
• 52:38
  degree
• 52:38
  for
• 52:38
  it
• 52:39
  and
• 52:39
  I
• 52:39
  didn't
• 52:39
  need
• 52:39
  my
• 52:40
  degree
• 52:40
  to
• 52:40
  be
• 52:41
  a
• 52:41
  photographer.
• 52:41
  I
• 52:41
  made
• 52:42
  that
• 52:42
  choice
• 52:42
  myself.
• 52:42
  And
• 52:42
  it
• 52:43
  was
• 52:43
  just
• 52:43
  an.
• 52:44
  It
• 52:44
  just
• 52:44
  evolved
• 52:45
  for
• 52:45
  whatever
• 52:46
  reason.
• 52:46
  So
• 52:46
  I
• 52:46
  think
• 52:47
  being
• 52:47
  taught
• 52:48
  more
• 52:48
  how
• 52:48
  to
• 52:48
  run
• 52:48
  a
• 52:49
  business,
• 52:49
  being
• 52:49
  an
• 52:49
  entrepreneur,
• 52:50
  because
• 52:50
  there's
• 52:50
  thousands
• 52:51
  of
• 52:51
  entrepreneurs
• 52:52
  that
• 52:52
  make
• 52:52
  a
• 52:52
  very
• 52:53
  good
• 52:53
  living
• 52:53
  better
• 52:54
  than
• 52:54
  us
• 52:55
  as
• 52:55
  an
• 52:55
  entrepreneur,
• 52:56
  and
• 52:56
  they
• 52:57
  had
• 52:57
  to
• 52:57
  learn
• 52:57
  all
• 52:57
  those
• 52:57
  things
• 52:58
  by
• 52:58
  themselves,
• 52:58
  step
• 52:58
  by
• 52:59
  step.
• 52:59
  So
• 52:59
  I
• 52:59
  think
• 52:59
  we're
• 53:00
  giving
• 53:00
  a
• 53:00
  little
• 53:00
  bit
• 53:01
  more
• 53:01
  information
• 53:01
  about
• 53:02
  that
• 53:03
  from
• 53:03
  a
• 53:03
  younger
• 53:03
  age,
• 53:04
  I
• 53:04
  think
• 53:04
  that
• 53:04
  would
• 53:04
  be.
• 53:05
  And
• 53:05
  I
• 53:05
  wished
• 53:06
  I
• 53:06
  knew
• 53:06
  a
• 53:06
  lot
• 53:06
  more
• 53:06
  because
• 53:07
  I've
• 53:07
  made
• 53:07
  thousands
• 53:08
  of
• 53:08
  mistakes
• 53:08
  trying
• 53:09
  to
• 53:09
  run
• 53:09
  a
• 53:09
  business,
• 53:09
  knowing
• 53:10
  not
• 53:10
  how
• 53:11
  to
• 53:11
  run
• 53:11
  a
• 53:11
  business.
• 53:12
  Absolutely.
• 53:13
  I'm
• 53:13
  all
• 53:13
  for
• 53:13
  that
• 53:14
  as
• 53:14
  well.
• 53:14
  I
• 53:14
  think
• 53:14
  it's
• 53:14
  really
• 53:14
  important.
• 53:15
  I
• 53:15
  think
• 53:15
  we
• 53:15
  need
• 53:15
  to
• 53:15
  give
• 53:16
  children
• 53:16
  and
• 53:17
  young
• 53:17
  people
• 53:18
  much
• 53:18
  more
• 53:19
  insight
• 53:19
  into
• 53:20
  what
• 53:20
  it's
• 53:20
  like
• 53:20
  to
• 53:20
  run
• 53:20
  a
• 53:20
  business
• 53:21
  and
• 53:21
  give
• 53:21
  that
• 53:21
  as
• 53:21
  an
• 53:22
  option
• 53:22
  as
• 53:22
  well.
• 53:23
  So
• 53:23
  I
• 53:23
  hear
• 53:23
  you.
• 53:24
  I
• 53:24
  agree
• 53:24
  with
• 53:24
  you.
• 53:25
  And
• 53:25
  I
• 53:25
  think
• 53:25
  we
• 53:25
  all
• 53:26
  should
• 53:26
  be
• 53:26
  doing
• 53:26
  more
• 53:27
  to
• 53:27
  promote
• 53:27
  that
• 53:27
  as
• 53:28
  well.
• 53:28
  Nick,
• 53:28
  it
• 53:28
  has
• 53:28
  been
• 53:29
  such
• 53:29
  a
• 53:29
  pleasure.
• 53:29
  Thank
• 53:30
  you
• 53:30
  for
• 53:30
  your
• 53:30
  time.
• 53:30
  If
• 53:30
  people
• 53:31
  want
• 53:31
  to
• 53:31
  find
• 53:31
  out
• 53:31
  more
• 53:32
  about
• 53:32
  your
• 53:32
  work
• 53:33
  or
• 53:33
  working
• 53:33
  with
• 53:33
  you,
• 53:34
  where
• 53:34
  are
• 53:34
  the
• 53:34
  best
• 53:34
  places
• 53:35
  for
• 53:35
  them
• 53:35
  to
• 53:35
  find
• 53:35
  you?
• 53:35
  So
• 53:36
  my
• 53:36
  website,
• 53:36
  first
• 53:37
  and
• 53:37
  foremost,
• 53:37
  it's
• 53:37
  got
• 53:38
  everything
• 53:38
  on
• 53:38
  there
• 53:38
  that
• 53:38
  you'll
• 53:38
  need
• 53:39
  and
• 53:39
  any
• 53:40
  photographers
• 53:40
  you
• 53:40
  know.
• 53:40
  If
• 53:40
  you'd
• 53:41
  like
• 53:41
  to
• 53:41
  see
• 53:41
  my
• 53:41
  work
• 53:41
  as
• 53:41
  well,
• 53:42
  it's
• 53:42
  just.
• 53:42
  Nickrutterphotography.co.uk
• 53:45
  and
• 53:45
  on
• 53:46
  Instagram,
• 53:46
  I'm
• 53:46
  Nick
• 53:47
  Rutterphoto.
• 53:48
  Fabulous.
• 53:48
  I
• 53:48
  will
• 53:48
  make
• 53:49
  sure
• 53:49
  that
• 53:49
  I
• 53:49
  put
• 53:49
  all
• 53:50
  of
• 53:50
  the
• 53:50
  links
• 53:50
  in
• 53:51
  the
• 53:51
  show
• 53:51
  notes.
• 53:51
  Nick,
• 53:52
  thank
• 53:52
  you
• 53:52
  so
• 53:52
  much
• 53:52
  for
• 53:52
  your
• 53:53
  time.
• 53:53
  It's
• 53:53
  been
• 53:53
  great
• 53:53
  chatting
• 53:54
  with
• 53:54
  you.
• 53:54
  Thank
• 53:54
  you.
• 53:55
  What
• 53:55
  an
• 53:55
  interesting
• 53:55
  conversation.
• 53:56
  Really
• 53:56
  enjoyed
• 53:57
  getting
• 53:57
  to
• 53:57
  know
• 53:57
  Nick,
• 53:57
  hearing
• 53:58
  more
• 53:58
  about
• 53:58
  his
• 53:59
  background,
• 53:59
  seeing
• 54:00
  how
• 54:00
  his
• 54:00
  creative
• 54:01
  vision
• 54:01
  flows
• 54:02
  through
• 54:02
  his
• 54:02
  work.
• 54:03
  As
• 54:03
  I
• 54:03
  said
• 54:03
  a
• 54:03
  couple
• 54:03
  of
• 54:03
  times
• 54:04
  before,
• 54:04
  do
• 54:04
  go
• 54:04
  and
• 54:04
  have
• 54:05
  a
• 54:05
  look
• 54:05
  at
• 54:05
  his
• 54:05
  work
• 54:06
  because
• 54:06
  it
• 54:06
  really
• 54:07
  is
• 54:07
  stunning
• 54:08
  and
• 54:08
  I
• 54:08
  loved
• 54:08
  his
• 54:08
  vulnerability.
• 54:09
  You
• 54:09
  know,
• 54:10
  sometimes
• 54:10
  we
• 54:10
  can
• 54:10
  hunt,
• 54:11
  hide
• 54:11
  behind
• 54:11
  the
• 54:11
  shiny
• 54:11
  Instagram
• 54:12
  photos
• 54:12
  and
• 54:12
  pretend
• 54:13
  that
• 54:13
  everything's
• 54:13
  great,
• 54:14
  but
• 54:14
  actually
• 54:15
  for
• 54:15
  all
• 54:15
  of
• 54:15
  us,
• 54:15
  sometimes
• 54:16
  we
• 54:16
  need
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  be
• 54:16
  honest
• 54:16
  that
• 54:17
  there's
• 54:17
  ups
• 54:17
  and
• 54:17
  there's
• 54:18
  downs
• 54:18
  in
• 54:18
  business,
• 54:18
  but
• 54:19
  it's
• 54:19
  what
• 54:19
  we
• 54:19
  do
• 54:19
  next
• 54:20
  that's
• 54:20
  the
• 54:20
  most
• 54:20
  important
• 54:21
  thing.
• 54:21
  I'll
• 54:21
  see
• 54:21
  you
• 54:21
  all
• 54:22
  next
• 54:22
  time.