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Super Tuesdays - Corruption Is Now A Top Voting Issue: That’s Bad News For Trump & Republicans · The Chuck ToddCast

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  Speaker 1: 14 days away from the 2026 midterm elections.
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  Speaker 2: He is Chuck Todd. I am Chris Lizzie. You are listening,
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  Speaker 2: watching Super Tuesdays. Like, subscribe, comment on all your podcast platforms.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck, we're almost there, man. You know, it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a long week. How are you feeling? How's your health?
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  Speaker 3: How's your mental health? How's your physical health? Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. I tell you, though, I got to go
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  Speaker 3: get my flu shot. I'm like paranoid about that. It's
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  Speaker 3: like the one thing I have been traveling on a bunch.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you got to get that flu shot.
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  Speaker 3: What does it takes about? Three days to take, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do the, do you, Chuck and I are
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  Speaker 2: of an age at this point, let's just leave it
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  Speaker 2: at that, that like, do you do the pneumonia and
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  Speaker 2: like the RSV shot too?
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  Speaker 3: I haven't done those, but I'm 50 just this year.
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  Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge. Okay. I don't do any of
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  Speaker 3: the extra. Don't screw up the shing, with the laying
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  Speaker 3: that shingles back. You do the shingle shot. Cause shingles
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  Speaker 3: is a night. Shingles is, shingles is like adult chicken pox, right?
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  Speaker 3: So yes. So the person I, You haven't had it,
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  Speaker 3: have you? I've never had it, but... Okay, I've heard
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  Speaker 3: it's terrible. But, look, I had a colleague about 15
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  Speaker 3: years ago who got it. And it just, it took
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  Speaker 3: him down, man. It took him down. And it was... Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got to do that. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to take a note that I need to
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  Speaker 2: get my flu and shingles shot. Can I get that at, like,
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  Speaker 2: CBS or wherever? This is, I'm sure, what people tuned
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  Speaker 2: in for.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. You know, I'm not 100% on the shingles. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I just... I'll be honest, like... One time I got
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  Speaker 3: a shot at CBS and boy, was my arm sore
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  Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks. Boy, is my arm tired.
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  Speaker 3: When I go to my doctor. The actual doctor. I
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  Speaker 3: have that issue. I love my friends at CBS. Don't
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  Speaker 3: get me wrong. Yeah, I'll probably just.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my doctor is like two minutes from me, so
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  Speaker 2: I just need to be not lazy. Hey, before we
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  Speaker 2: get into the meat of this, I want to shout
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  Speaker 2: out a sad shout out. But our friend Ann Hornaday,
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  Speaker 2: the longtime film critic at The Washington Post, passed away
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  Speaker 2: far too early. on Monday or Sunday from glioblastoma, which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Chuck and I were texting about, you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: just among politicians, John McCain, Beau Biden, uh, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Teddy Kennedy, all died of glioblastoma and, uh, Was 66
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  Speaker 2: years old, like Chuck and I are regular on the
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  Speaker 2: Tony Kornheiser podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Just awful. I didn't know she was sick. I guess
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  Speaker 3: she went into hospice last week. Yeah. But just a
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  Speaker 3: really good, kind person. And it moves really, really fast.
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  Speaker 3: And 66 is way too early. Yeah. No, I she
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  Speaker 3: was a guest in my podcast. We we'd done when
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  Speaker 3: I would be promoting the various documentary film festivals in D.C.
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  Speaker 3: She was always a big part of them. As well,
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  Speaker 3: I've done a lot of Q & As for him.
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  Speaker 3: She'd do, of course, a ton of Q & As.
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  Speaker 3: That is the worst. I had a neighbor. He went
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  Speaker 3: from mowing the lawn- to death in like four weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, you know. It moves very, very quickly.
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  Speaker 3: The minute there's a symptom, it's already too late. I
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  Speaker 3: said it's the pancreatic cancer of brain cancer in that
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  Speaker 3: they usually find it too late. We're doing better on
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  Speaker 3: pancreatic cancer. Pancreatic cancer. I know. I saw that. Well,
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  Speaker 3: let's hope, man. But it's just sad. She's great, hilarious,
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  Speaker 3: good writer, good talker. Anyway, if you have not read
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  Speaker 3: the obit in the Washington Post, you should. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about what people want to hear from us on. So, Chuck,
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  Speaker 3: 14 days out, Trump is in the midst.
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  Speaker 2: He started on Monday night in Wichita, Kansas, which says something.
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  Speaker 2: But I believe he's now doing, they've added two Texas stops. So,
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  Speaker 2: it was seven states in seven days. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: now in eight days doing nine stops.
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  Speaker 3: But he's going to South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: As I said, he was in Kansas. Is this.
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  Speaker 2: Is Donald Trump out there stumping in these states a good,
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  Speaker 2: a bad or a neutral thing for the Republicans in
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  Speaker 2: these states? Because we can you know, I'm interested where
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  Speaker 2: you land on that, because we know. Look, let me
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  Speaker 2: just say we know why he's doing it. He's for
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  Speaker 2: two reasons. One, he loves spotlight, too. They're trying to
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  Speaker 2: rally the Republican base. Right. Which is being somewhat unenthusiastic.
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  Speaker 2: But there's another side to it. Where do you land on?
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  Speaker 3: Like, is this net positive, net neutral or net negative?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's more net negative than net positive, but
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  Speaker 3: I understand the strategy, right? Yeah. Midterm election is about
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  Speaker 3: base turnout. We know this is about base turnout. And
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  Speaker 3: I look at it– his schedule looks more like triage
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  Speaker 3: to me, right? It is a little bit like a
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  Speaker 3: mash unit. Let's just– all right, Kansas. Let's see what
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  Speaker 3: can be done there. Obviously, Texas. And look, there are certain–
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  Speaker 3: I would argue that Texas is probably the be-all, end-all
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  Speaker 3: if you're really looking at what I'm starting to think,
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  Speaker 3: especially if Collins pulls off, is able to hold on.
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  Speaker 3: Texas might be the majority. The pivot, yeah. Could be
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  Speaker 3: the tipping point state on that front. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: view Kansas as sort of the fifth or sixth seat, right?
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, I think Kansas goes after Texas. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: very heavy left.
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  Speaker 3: It does. But I'm not sure– I think the– I
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  Speaker 3: saw Marshall performing at the rally. It's just– put it
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  Speaker 3: this way. If you're Adam Hamilton, you're just fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't make you nervous. It reinforces certainly your closing
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  Speaker 3: argument if you want to be a bit more independent, right?
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  Speaker 3: Who's the senator serving that sort of– business. So I
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  Speaker 3: think for the most part, it's a net negative. I
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  Speaker 3: understand the strategy in it. I could see that it
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  Speaker 3: could have some benefits. But I keep coming back to
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  Speaker 3: this uncomfortable truth from 2024. If Donald Trump is so
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  Speaker 3: helpful at winning Senate seats, then why did Democrats win
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  Speaker 3: Senate seats in Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, and Wisconsin? I totally agree.
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  Speaker 3: It is the data point that sort of actually makes
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  Speaker 3: the case that maybe, huh, I don't know if he
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  Speaker 3: brings a benefit. His voters haven't voted for Republican Senate
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  Speaker 3: candidates before. Why do they think it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: different this time?
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny you mention that because I still remember
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  Speaker 2: after 2024, like right after a couple of days, a
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  Speaker 2: day after night of I was like, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: call Michigan for Trump. And then Slotkin Rogers is super close.
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  Speaker 2: And I just I may have said this to you.
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  Speaker 3: Not publicly, but like, well, I mean, I just assume
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  Speaker 3: Rogers will win because Trump has won Michigan by two
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  Speaker 3: or three. Like, how the hell do you very rare
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  Speaker 3: just for people to very rarely does that happen?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The president went nowadays. The president wins and then slot
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  Speaker 3: can want. And I was like, wait, what? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I do think that is useful because it's also not
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  Speaker 3: a ball. It's not a cop from 25 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like it's a recent.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: He does. They, you know, I call them shotgun Trump voters.
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  Speaker 3: I do think there are people that care about him,
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  Speaker 3: but they only care about him. I mean, they're in
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  Speaker 3: some ways they're, they're, they truly are him, right? He
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  Speaker 3: only cares about himself. Well, there are voters that only
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  Speaker 3: care about Trump and don't really care about the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the Republican party. And that, you know, that slice
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  Speaker 3: of voter is, is who they need to show up.
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  Speaker 3: But the other part of it is, And look, it's
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  Speaker 3: all anecdotal, but I will tell you the importance of
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  Speaker 3: corruption popping now as the number two issue, number three issue,
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  Speaker 3: and you're starting to hear it circulate. Let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you why that should scare the bejesus out of Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: So for instance, and this is an anecdote, but I
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  Speaker 3: had somebody come up to me at the airport on
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  Speaker 3: Monday and say to me, tell me. Look, I'm a conservative.
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  Speaker 3: Told me the county they were from in Texas. I've
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  Speaker 3: never voted for Democrats, all this stuff. And he goes,
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  Speaker 3: I just think the party needs a reboot and they're
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  Speaker 3: not going to listen until they listen. And I was like, interesting.
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  Speaker 3: That is interesting. Look, it's an anecdote. Of course. It's
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  Speaker 3: one person.
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  Speaker 2: But the polling suggests it is rising as an issue.
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  Speaker 3: So, for instance, you're a voter. You're conservative. But you're
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  Speaker 3: you don't like what you're seeing with Trump corruption. If
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  Speaker 3: your rationale for voting against Republicans is corruption, that is
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  Speaker 3: a way to say, hey, look, I'm still a conservative.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still you know, I don't really want this Democratic
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  Speaker 3: governance anymore. But the only way I'm going to get
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  Speaker 3: a conservative party that's trustworthy again or that I feel
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with is essentially to punish him now, which is
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  Speaker 3: what midterm– what is it? Do you need 3% of
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  Speaker 3: the vote that does that? If you're on the Democratic side, 5%
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  Speaker 3: of the vote. And they don't all vote Democratic. Some
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  Speaker 3: of them may vote Libertarian. Some of them may skip races. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is why the corruption message, I think, is so
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  Speaker 3: dangerous for Republican incumbents, because corruption is an easier permission
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  Speaker 3: slip to vote against the party than admitting you were
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  Speaker 3: wrong the whole time. And that's always been our thing.
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  Speaker 3: is like it's very hard if you've been waiting in
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  Speaker 3: a line for 10 years it's hard to get out
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  Speaker 3: of the line right you got a lot of sunk
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  Speaker 3: cost and waiting in line republic many republican based voters
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  Speaker 3: yeah look you know i was for the policies he
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  Speaker 3: was talking about totally i wasn't for this corruption yep
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  Speaker 3: and it's gotten in the way of what i want
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  Speaker 3: um I'm not going to change who I am. He changed.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: Look, we all go through you go through various sort
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  Speaker 3: of stages on this stuff. And I just think corruption,
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  Speaker 3: if you're a Republican operative, you should be having panic
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  Speaker 3: attacks that corruption is now. popping as sort of the...
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  Speaker 3: We know it's not the top issue, but it's the
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  Speaker 3: rationalizing issue. And then there's this. And that's why I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: It's the quota. We....
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  Speaker 2: I think since we've been doing this, we've been talking about–
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  Speaker 2: certainly since 2025, we said, what is 2026?
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  Speaker 3: What's the best comparison?
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  Speaker 2: When you were talking, I was just thinking– we've mentioned
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  Speaker 2: this before, but think about 06.
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  Speaker 3: We knew 06 was going to be a bad-ish election
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  Speaker 3: for Republicans, but September 2006, the Mark Foley-Page scandal breaks,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like– it's the– Whatever the opposite of the
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  Speaker 3: cherry on top is. You know, a cherry on top
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  Speaker 3: is good. You know, the bad cherry on top. It's not.
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  Speaker 3: The hot sauce on the sundae. Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like put the mayonnaise on top. Whatever you want
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  Speaker 3: to pick.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Mayonnaise is good on anything. It's kind of bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Mayonnaise is good on anything. No.
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  Speaker 2: See, that's where we differ. That's why we can't run
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  Speaker 2: for president. Because I hate mayonnaise and you love mayonnaise.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not going to work for us.
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  Speaker 3: I may or may not have been raised on peanut
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  Speaker 3: butter and mayonnaise sandwiches. Oh, my. I just heard someone
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  Speaker 3: loves peanut butter, mayonnaise, and tomato sandwiches. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that sounds more disgusting than anything I've ever had. But
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  Speaker 3: you had peanut butter and mayonnaise? Oh, yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Florida's a whole different place, folks. I mean, let's be honest. But,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the deal, right? It's like, it's the.
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  Speaker 2: the the push it's either the push over the edge
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  Speaker 2: that voters need or and i think you're you're more
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  Speaker 2: right is the permission slip to.
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  Speaker 3: Vote it's like look i just we we gotta reboot
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  Speaker 3: we gotta like the guy said we gotta reboot we
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  Speaker 3: gotta reset we gotta you know like real conservative with
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  Speaker 3: me i agreed with this guy i mean because i
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  Speaker 3: believe this and you know it's like you know, um,
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  Speaker 3: I could argue the democratic party needs a reboot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree. Um, I think a lot of democratic
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  Speaker 3: party voters would agree with that. Right. And, and which
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  Speaker 3: is why you have so many candidates running away from
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  Speaker 3: the party. Yeah. Um, and have it looking like they're
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  Speaker 3: having some success doing that, at least if you're in
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  Speaker 3: a Kansas or in Iowa. Um, but yeah, it's, it's, that's,
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  Speaker 3: and then, you know, I mean, Trump is almost, you know, he's, he's, uh,
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  Speaker 3: He's just such a cliche about some things, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the obsession of the golf course. Really? Right now. East Potomac.
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  Speaker 3: Just what everybody cares about. Yeah. I mean, we're really–
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  Speaker 3: we're two weeks in a day when he was doing
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  Speaker 3: it and he's just obsessing over a golf course. Yeah. It's–
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  Speaker 3: The golf course is the new ballroom. Do you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? To your point, we love ad impact.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't actually thinking of this, but I just pulled
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  Speaker 2: it up while you were talking because I think this
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  Speaker 2: is really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Ad impact tracks what's out there. Chuck, look at this.
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  Speaker 2: This is weekly broadcast airings.
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  Speaker 3: So TV ads mentioning President Trump. Look at....
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, August 8-2 to 8-16 is kind of
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  Speaker 2: the end, really, effectively, of the primary season. So, the
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  Speaker 2: red line is Republican ads mentioning Donald Trump. The blue
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  Speaker 2: line is Democratic ads mentioning Donald Trump. I mean, literally,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as primary season ends, it collapses for Republicans.
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  Speaker 3: Like, look at that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you need any, and if you can't see,
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  Speaker 2: it says, in May, President Trump was mentioned 47% of
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  Speaker 2: GOP broadcast ad airings. So far in October, that figure
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  Speaker 2: has fallen to just 1%. So, I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's like you need to understand you need to understand
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  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump in the election and to our start
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  Speaker 2: where we started. Is he a good thing or a
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  Speaker 2: bad thing? Look at what they're talking about or not
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  Speaker 2: talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Like, right. It's pretty remarkable. I saw that chart.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it's like pretty telling. Democrats will
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  Speaker 3: pay for his for his travel schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We don't talk about this that much, but Trump has
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  Speaker 2: talked about it more and more, and I just want
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  Speaker 2: to raise it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure we can answer it, but before he
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  Speaker 3: flew to Kansas on Monday, he was asked about the
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  Speaker 3: polling that shows Republicans losing, and he says, well, it's
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  Speaker 3: all rigged.
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  Speaker 2: It's the question I get more than any other. I'm
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  Speaker 2: assuming it's probably the question you get more than any other, too,
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  Speaker 2: which is, How concerned are you? We kind of know
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  Speaker 2: that this should be a good election for Democrats based
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  Speaker 2: on all the atmospherics. But how concerned are you about
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  Speaker 2: what Trump will say and more importantly, will do, if anything?
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  Speaker 3: Post election.
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  Speaker 2: And by that, I mean, any time after the ballot, the, the,
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  Speaker 2: the election, you know, they, they.
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  Speaker 3: Close the polls. Let's create the two categories. There's what
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  Speaker 3: he says. Yes. One very dangerous, one less dangerous. Right.
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  Speaker 3: We know what he's going to say. We already know
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  Speaker 3: what he's going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they, they, you know, he's going to talk
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  Speaker 3: about 2020, right. He can't stop talking about 2020. Nope.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so it's, it, he's going to say all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of things. Um, The question is, is he willing
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  Speaker 3: to do something about it? Donald Trump is not going
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  Speaker 3: to lift– if Donald Trump didn't have the guts to
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  Speaker 3: finish the job on January 6th, just remember, he didn't–
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  Speaker 3: I've always said the question he's never been asked and
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  Speaker 3: that he has yet to respond to is why did
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  Speaker 3: you choke? Why did you fail to fire the attorney general?
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  Speaker 3: Why did you fail to fire the defense secretary? You
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  Speaker 3: could have done all these things and you chose not
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  Speaker 3: to and it was for himself. So why do you
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  Speaker 3: think he's going to do this on behalf of somebody else?
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  Speaker 3: So I, I, that's, it's not as if I don't
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  Speaker 3: think there's a danger. I'm not going to sit here
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  Speaker 3: and say that we're somehow in this incredibly, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying is that he is not going to go and, um,
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  Speaker 3: out on a limb for somebody else's election. And he's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he looked what he was willing to do
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  Speaker 3: for himself, but even there, there were certain things that
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  Speaker 3: have the guts to do. Um, I do think the
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  Speaker 3: closer the election is, the more concerned I would be
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  Speaker 3: about shenanigans and about attempts to mess around with things.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't– I think he's more likely to rhetorically
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  Speaker 3: obviously create all sorts of bad– certainly– I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to minimize that rhetoric doesn't do damage. No, it absolutely does.
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  Speaker 3: It does. But it is dangerous, but less dangerous than
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  Speaker 3: him acting.
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  Speaker 2: Acting.
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  Speaker 3: Right. The question is, is he willing to to commit
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  Speaker 3: an act? And I think it look, he they haven't
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  Speaker 3: done the pre-election work to make their acts feasible. So
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: that's why I'm also less good. They just haven't done.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: You know, you haven't. You know, there's talk about some
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: of the things that they could do, but they've not
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: actually started to do those things. So I'm I'm I
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: am I continue to say I'm vigilant. I'm not an alarmist.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: And I think that's and it's continue to be where
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: where my head is. That's exactly where I am.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I always say to people, Donald Trump's fundamental selfishness is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the reason that I'm. Sanguine is not the right word,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: but not alarm. Because to your point, we've talked about
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: this so many times. He doesn't really care about anything
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: other than himself.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: He's too lazy to be the worst version that some
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: people think he's capable of being.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: It's just he just he cares about himself. And, yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: this election matters to matters about him sort of. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it's not his name on the ballot. Like he's just
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: rely on his fundamental selfishness. Well, just to overwhelm everything.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Look what we went through last week. Right.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: He's going to vacillate between. The system is rigged. Democrats
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: rigged in this. Yes. To John Thune sucks. He didn't
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: pass the SAVE Act. Yes. Karl Rove. They should have
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: listened to me more. Right. You know, John. Yes. You know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: they hate the Republican Party. They love me. You know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: why is it when I'm on the ballot, the party
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: does well. When I'm not, they don't. Right. So, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: he's going to self-soothe, which will be a combination of
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: blaming other people in the party, you know, You know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: he'll blame his consultants if he has to. Sure. He'll
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: throw anybody else on. You know, it is never going
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: to be him. It is never going to be. That
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: is the prediction. We both. You can take that 100
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: percent to the bank. Right. Every rational person in the
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Republican Party knows exactly why they're in the situation. Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And it's all due to decisions Donald Trump made and
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: what he does and says on a given day. Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: That is why the Republican Party is on the brink here.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: It's all because of him. So. Yeah. I mean, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: guess at this point, well, you dug the hole. You
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: get us out of the hole.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Right. So sure. Rally. Try it. If you've got a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: theory of the case, let's see it. And, of course,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: his theory of.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: The case in Kansas on Monday night at least partly
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: included his retelling for the thousandth time of him acing
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a cognitive test where they say, like, bear, eagle, giraffe.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Which one is the giraffe? I'm like, this is the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: East Potomac Park. This is the ballroom. Like, he's incapable of.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: He wasn't smitten with Roger Marshall. No, he was not
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: smitten with Roger Marshall. By the way, quick sidebar on that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Did you see? I thought this was smart.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You see, Adam Hamilton went up with a TV ad
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: welcoming Trump to the state and saying, I just want
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you to know if if you voted for Donald Trump,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you have a home in my campaign. Like it speaks
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to both his savvy, but also the challenge, which is
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: you got to get a whole lot of Republicans to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: vote for you if you want to win.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: That's you know. That's right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: We've talked Texas. I want to take a quick sidebar
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: into Texas. So as folks know, Kalshi is supporting and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: sponsoring this podcast through the election. We are thankful for
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: people who are willing to support our independent journalism.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I want to pull something up and Chuck flagged this
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: On Monday night, because this is a really interesting one.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: So Chuck, let's talk about this. So this is, let
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: me pull up Kalshi here. All right. This is Governor
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and let me get slightly bigger here. This is governor
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and Senate.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So you can you can get into the prediction market
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: for both the governor's race and the Senate race. We've
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: talked a lot about both of these races. So the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: green here that you see, this is. Sort of a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: split decision. The most likely probability is Greg Abbott wins
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the governor's race. James Tallarico wins the Senate race. So
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: a Republican governor, a Democratic senator, a Republican sweep. Paxton
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Abbott is second. And then a Democratic sweep is second. Third, now,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I don't see odds on Gina Hinojosa winning. I thought
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: there was one. It's probably down here.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, less than one. Gina Hinojosa, it does not merit
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a line on the graph, which would be a Democrat
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: wins governor and Paxson wins Senate. What's your take on that, Chuck?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you first, do these races move in
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: unison or are they separate entities? First of all, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: guess that'll inform kind of what interests you in this chart.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I think there are part, you know, what's interesting
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: here is that they basically move together. But so, for instance,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, so does there are, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Paxton voters, right? She's got a group of of essentially
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: mega moms who can't stand what Abbott has done to
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: school funding, the cuts he's done that have impacted, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you know, impacted particularly rural schools in particular, look, the
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: voucher program is very divisive. You know, again, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: if you've got access to multiple schools, school choice feels
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: like a viable thing. If you live in a community
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: where there just are not a lot of choices. Instead,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: all you've done is the state has gutted your local school,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: which you. And that is an issue of partisanship. This
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: is what. Look, this is how Republicans screwed up Kansas.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: This is how Republicans opened the door for Democrats in Iowa.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And they're doing it here because it is. I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the fundamental mistake that lawmakers on the right make about
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: people's anger about the school system is they want it
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: to work. They don't want the response to be, great,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: leave the system. They actually want the schools fixed. They
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: don't want it eliminated. And essentially, their conservative response has
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: simply been to eliminate the public schools in their own way.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Kansas is such a great example.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: What Sam Brownback did to schools in Kansas.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And this is an issue that just creates cross-currents.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: The irony is there really is. I mean, I look,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I am. I think the most interesting campaign in the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: country is Jeannie Hose's campaign. Oh, interesting. What just the
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: different because she's trying to meet voters where they are. She's,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: you know, leaning in in different ways. I just think she's.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Running a really smart race. By the way, I cannot
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: believe Andy Beshear is not still not funding it. Andy Beshear,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the governor of Kentucky, is the head of the Democratic
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Governors Association. I mean, he's facing huge amounts.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Of heat from the Latino community nationwide for not giving
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: more money to, you know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Guess what he just did. He just gave a half
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a million to Oklahoma. What? The Oklahoma governor's race. I
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: was unaware there was an Oklahoma. No, I mean, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: knew there was a governor's race, but I just assumed
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: that Mike Mazzei was going to win. Yeah, well, he's
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the favorite, but it's been a single digit race. Look,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: we saw this in 2018, right? It's a cheaper date.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, his justification would be it's so expensive. A
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: million dollars there doesn't do it. It does a lot.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: A million dollars in Texas does nothing. But still. you take, you,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you put Texas in the purple category and you've just
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: upended the chess board, right? We've talked about it. If
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you win the governorship in Oklahoma, if you win the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: governorship in Oklahoma, you know what you've done? You've won
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the governorship in Oklahoma. Correct.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: All right. I mean, we're really not talking much about
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Brad Henry anymore. And he was a two term democratic
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: governor of Oklahoma.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So, um, look, so I just think that she's run
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: a really unique race. And, you know, for instance, she's
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: got this woman, Lynn Davenport, who's, Who has an endorsement
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: ad where she says I was at the January 6th rally.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And this is why I support Abbott. So I do.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: The irony here is what to go back to what
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I was starting is there are I really believe there
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: actually are, you know, Paxton voters who are, you know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Washington, it's Jersey color, right? That's
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: what I want in Washington. But Abbott has screwed this up,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and it's time for him to go. And look, she
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: also is saying, I'm not going to relitigate culture wars.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: We're not going to do that. I'm here. If I
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: get elected, I know why I've gotten elected. So that's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the pledge she's been making. So I do think she's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: just run, just like what you were pointing out with
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Adam Hamilton, Yeah. With what you know, hey, there's a
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: home for you here. It's the totally thing that she's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: been doing. So the point is, is that I do
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: believe in obvious. But there's obviously more. There's no doubt
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: there are more sort of business, your Chamber of Commerce
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Republican in Texas who's been. who lives in suburban Dallas,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: suburban Houston, they're fine with Abbott. He's been good for them.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: The school choice issue there hasn't been as impactful because
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you have a lot more choice. It hasn't been as
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: perhaps that hasn't been the constituency that has been open
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: to the OSA campaign. Look, I agree with the general
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: sort of groupings of the sort of and where percentage-wise
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: these sit. But I will tell you, it is a
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: better way to get into the– it is an interesting
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: way to get into the market if you're looking to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: get into the Texas market, which is either you– It's
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: right now. You've got to spend a lot of money.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: If you just think Tallarico is going to win. Absolutely.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a favorite. He's certainly the favorite in
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: these markets. Both of these cases, you get to have
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit of Tallarico exposure, but, um, but the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: share price is affordable, right? Oh, I think this, I mean, look,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this 24%.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Look, I think today, Tallarico is favored. Now, that doesn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: mean he's going to win. It's very close, right? I mean,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: but I think Tallarico is favored. So if you think Tallarico.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Is going to win, this at 24% for a Democratic sweep.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: But Chris, look, the point is, is that, you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you can essentially... Put yourself in positive territory if you
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: split your money accordingly. Totally. A little bit on Tallarico Abbott,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit on Tallarico Hinojosa. It's just an interesting thing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: And I would say, and.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I'm 99.9% sure you agree with this, Tallarico wins. You
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: can see a Tallarico Abbott victory far easier than you
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: could see Hinojosa Paxton.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Like Tallerico wins way before Hinojosa wins.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Right. The point I'm saying is, is if you wanted
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: to look, if you want a Tallerico exposure without having
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to pay 65 cents. And that's what it is. Sixty
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: five cents. Sixty four. Sixty five. Right. Instead, you're under
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: 50 cents for either Tallerico or Tallerico, you know. So
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: it's a it's probably a more efficient way to have
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: exposure to the Texas races. So that's Kelsey. We are
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: supportive of anyone who supports us. Right. In that regard,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: we we always urge people. Chuck and I do this. Look,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: this is for adults only. This is this. You know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: this is do. Chuck always says this thing is important.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Do your research. This is real money. It's not it's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: not fake money. This is real money. So do your research.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: You may use it as a data point. Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: And so you, you know, if that's something that floats
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: your boat, but don't go into this thinking that you're
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: playing with monopoly money because you're not.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Right. Well said. We have not talked about because I
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: think amazingly, the new White House press secretary both started
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and was fired in between our weekly episode, which says
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: everything you need to know about that. Look, I am.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I'm very much a sequential thinker, okay? I'm a linear thinker. Okay.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: And it's very important to me, though, that we officially
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: designate a Zachariah is five and a half days. Yes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Not five days. Yes. Because we need it to be
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: exactly one half of a Scaramucci. Half a Scaramucci. You're
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a linear thinker. Nothing wrong with that. Two Zachariahs equal
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: one Scaramucci. Yes. And I think that's important. Yes. Two
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Z equals one S. There you go. Okay, so it
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: is easy, and I think, you know, I have engaged
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: in a lot of, like, what in the hell, like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: eye roll laughing. She clearly was not up to this,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: and not just because of the first press briefing, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: because of these subsequent interviews on, like, very friendly territory, Hannity,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Fox & Friends, and, you know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: So, I want to focus less on her, because we
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: will literally never hear from her again, and more on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: The processes that get someone like that a very high
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: profile job.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Processes. I love that you think there was a process.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I may be over... I was almost going to add,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I may be overstating it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: We've talked about and we don't need to go into
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Hegseth at Pete Hegseth again. But like I am always reminded,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I know you and I have talked about Jack Reed,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: not a partisan, the senator. I mean, he's a Democratic
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: senator from Rhode Island, but not like a flamethrower. He's
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: not trying to run for president. He's not trying to
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: score points in Pete Hegseth. Hearing said, I would not
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: only not vote for you to be the secretary of defense,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I would not vote for you to be the press
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: secretary at the secretary of defense. And I was like, well, OK.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: This is seems to me in line with people who
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: are simply, whether you agree with their policies, they are
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: simply not qualified to do these jobs. And yet they
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: are being put into these jobs, obviously for Katie Zachariah briefly.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Is there a lesson, a bigger lesson beyond, wow, she
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: imploded to be learned here, Chuck? Well, here's what it
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: tells me a little bit is that, um, There's something
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: happening inside that West Wing because he did it without
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Susie Wiles. Right. He did it on his own. He
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: made this higher on his own. It wasn't whatever process
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: had been in place was ignored for this. He just
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: sort of did it. He made it happen. And, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: it was it was the most first term Trump. staffing
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: thing we had seen yet. Very true.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it came out right when the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Susie Wiles news came out, right? That like maybe he
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was replacing her. It was like right at the same time,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: those two stories were intertwining.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And they, and they, you know, and it's interesting how
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: quickly he has given a vote of confidence to her,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: to Susie on this one. But it is, look, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of stories I've heard on this where,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: it's growing more and more people don't want to give
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: him bad news. So they just sort of stay away
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: from him. And, you know, he's, you know, he spends it,
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: they do what he can to schedule him up. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: he's got rallies, you know, maybe there's a bunch, there's
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: a couple of CEOs that they can sort of distract
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: them with a three hour meeting. You know what he
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: loves to do? Literally any CEOs that come to town,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you know, they feel like they've got, you know, it's,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Their government relations people will say, hey, if you can
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: get into the Oval, do it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: They will. And then what does he do? He gives them–
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't tell you how often I've heard
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: a version of this story. He gives them a tour
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: of the ballroom. He gives them a tour of the helipad.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: He gives them a tour of the wall of fame
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: and all the gold. And Joe Biden, this is the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: auto pen. And he just spends half a day. He
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't really do anything because nobody wants him doing anything, right?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: The actual staff of the White House tries to essentially
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: load up his schedule with distraction busy work, right? which
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: is meet with developers, meet with CEOs, meet with the
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Fazio family to design the East Potomac Golf Links course,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: you know, or as our friend Doug High called it, Bushwood, D.C. Bushwood? Bushwood?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, we can only hope. Trump is Ted Knight.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Or Rodney Dangerfield. I'm not sure which, you know. By
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: that hat, you get a free bowl of soup. Is
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: he Shmales or is he like in some ways Trump's both?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Al Chervik. Yeah. It is a good point, though, because
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: there's something happening in the West Wing. The fact that
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: this happened without.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: And it was more of the it shows you. And look,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I'd heard he was. Where's all my defenders? Nobody's defending
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: me on TV. He was getting frustrated that they hadn't
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: found somebody. So he was going to take matters into
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: his own hands. And it just sort of reinforces that
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: this other stuff I'd been hearing, which is, yeah, do
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: what you can to fill up a schedule. Keep them busy.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Don't let them essentially sit idle. You know, it's sort
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: of like totally the kid that can't be can't be
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: sitting idle because he gets on social. He'll start saying
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff on true. So we need to change New
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Mexico's name. I mean, that's it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: And by the way, to go back to where we started,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that's also, I think, why. whether it's a good, bad,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: or indifferent thing, they've got him out on the campaign
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: trail constantly. He likes doing that, right?
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It keeps him busy. It distracts him. He likes hearing
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: people cheer for him. He likes performing. The less likely
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: he's telling Natalie to post something crazy on Truth Social. Right. Yep.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And he's getting also what he wants to, which is adoration, right? Like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: people love me. People are chanting my name. We've got
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: packed houses everywhere.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Right. Chuck and I do speeches from time to time
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: around the country, and one of the questions, Chuck, I
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: assume you get too, I get all the time, especially now, is, okay, well,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: what happens, what does it all look like? on December
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: 1st or January 15th?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: If, let's just say, Democrats do take, I was looking
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: at Decision Desk HQ, our friend's odds, and they have
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a Democratic sweep at 56% or 57%.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Probability right now. What does that look like? And I
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: think the assumption, at least among a lot of Democrats,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like not Democrats elected officials, but Democrats who are asking
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: me this question is, well, man, nothing's going to get
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: done and Trump and them are going to fight. And
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, I honestly don't know, but what does
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: it look like? Because if they lose the House and Senate,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: if he is now really a lame duck, but also
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: really legacy focused, like he is a dealmaker, not a
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: partisan really at heart. What do you... Let's just go
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: down the hypothetical. They lose the House and the Senate.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: So you now have a Democratic House, a Democratic Senate,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: and obviously Donald Trump is still the president of the
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: United States.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: What's the vibe? What are you thinking of? And I'm
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: not saying on November 8th or something. I'm talking about
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the next three months. Well, first, you've got to see,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: are we going to have a government shutdown or not?
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And I think that that is... potentially dependent on what
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: is the attitude of Republicans coming into this, right? How
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: angry are they? If it's a wipeout, how big is
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: the wipeout? Is there real bitterness, et cetera? So I
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: think we'll get at least a hint at How do
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Republicans that aren't named Trump handle this situation? And that'll
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: be litigated in the lame doc for people who don't.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: And that gets litigated in that sort of three-week period,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: particularly between Thanksgiving and Christmas. But I have said– I
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: continue to– I fully admit that this is the hardest
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: question there is to answer because there's so many moving
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: parts here, right? Yeah. Let's start with the Democratic Party.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: If they get the clean sweep, it's going to be
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: because a whole bunch of people got elected that aren't
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: base Democrats. A whole bunch of people got elected by saying,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I'm a different kind of Democrat. Totally. All right. Then
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: you've got a whole bunch of Democrats who won some
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: very blue primaries. Now, they came in ready to say,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: we're going to hold this guy accountable and we're going
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: to make sure that we're going to get them for
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: breaking the law on immigration and breaking the law and
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: all these things. So you've got this. And there's certainly
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: going to be a unified party in doing accountability on
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the administration. So I think there'll certainly be a shared
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: belief that that needs to be done. There may be
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: a disagreement on who should be targeted first. What should
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: they be focused on first, right? So there's that. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: then the tactics, too, is impeachment. Do you leap to impeachment?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Do you try to impeach Pete Hegseth? Do you try
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to impeach Donald Trump? And again, size of the midterm matters.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: If it's 235 to 245 House seats, Akeem Jeffries can
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: manage the social. Okay. The socialists are the Freedom Caucus
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: of the left and are mostly manageable. And they're the
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Freedom Caucus circa 20, you know, maybe 2014, 2016. Right.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Annoyingly vintage. But manageable. Yeah. But if you're looking at
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a very small, if you're looking at a House margin
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: under 230 for Democrats, where they're basically right around 10
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: seats or single digit, well, that's an entirely different ballgame.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: And that's an entirely more insular Democratic majority that is, frankly,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: a Democratic majority in name only. Just like we've seen
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: with the Republican. Republicans have the majority in the House,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: but they don't have control of the House. Right. That's
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: been that's a great way to put it. And I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: think that that would be a similar situation. But let
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: me introduce a few other things. Like, I agree with
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you on Trump. You got which Trump's going to be there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Is it Donald Trump that likes to hang out with
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Mamdani and wants to sideline? Praising AOC. That's right. But
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: then you're going to have a Democratic presidential primary campaign
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: that is going to have gotten started, plus a Republican
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: presidential primary campaign that's gotten started. Well, those are going
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: to be very base focused campaigns. campaign messages, campaign rhetoric.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: And if there's a group of Democrats that want to
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: do a deal with the White House, how's that going
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: to play in the campaign trail? Are they going to
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: spin up the base? The base spins up the party
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: and there's all sorts of infighting about, are you there
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: to govern? Are you enabling Trump? One person's enablers, another
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: person's Hey, I'm just here to get stuff done.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Bipartisan compromiser.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Exactly. So I just think that and look in Schumer
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: and Jeffries. But let's particularly Jeffries. I think ultimately he
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: wants to be above this a little bit and try
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: to try to manage this. But his own backyard is,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: you know. the socialists are, are, are right there in
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: his rear view mirror that, that I would not take
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: comfort in the sign that says objects in your mirror
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: may be closer, you know, they're closer than they are.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: They're right there.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: He has to worry a little bit or maybe a
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: lot bit about his own primary.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And so that is going to be its own
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: form of check on him in ways that I think can,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and can cause the point is, is, is, um, I
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: think anybody that is definitive about how the first six
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: months go in Washington, it is a lot easier to
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: bet on paralysis. And I'm betting on paralysis, not between
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the D's and the R's. I'm betting on paralysis inside
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: of both parties that just prevent us from ever getting
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to the point where you might even see anything beyond
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the minimum of getting, you know, of getting just making
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: sure the lights are on. And I'm intrigued by Trump
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and kind of what he does because it's just– again,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I think people misread him, particularly on the left, as
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: kind of like just a rank partisan. He's really not.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I mean he's just like a– I don't even think
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: he really has a politics to him really like ultimately.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Here's how I– here's sort of my– it's a hypothetical,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: but I think the exercise– gets it to the point
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: i want to make is um would you do a
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: deal with donald trump for dc statehood if his demand
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: was to name the state after himself yep and you
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: know people i throw that hypothetical at people and they
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: and they sort of roll their eyes and i'm like
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: no i'm serious And I sit there and say, are
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: you how much a clear win for Democrats? I mean, D.C. statehood.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: But and the reason, you know, I'm not saying that
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: exact deal will be on the table. It's deals like
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that where you might be able to get something that
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: you couldn't get another Republican. Right. Right. Not a million years. Right.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: But you're going to have to do stuff with him
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that you would never have thought you'd be willing to do.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Right. Are you willing to go down that road? And
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: here's the other divide inside the party among Democrats. Well,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: and this goes to Republicans, is the Democrats who give
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: the party the majority are not base Democrats. No. They're
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: like the Adam Hamiltons of the world if it happens.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Are they going to have a real seat at the table? Right. Now,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: let me flip the script. What Republicans are going to
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: be left? Hardcore. Are you wiping out all of the workables?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Trump plus 15 plus districts. Or are they all going
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: to be the Trumpiest of all? Yeah. And does that
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: create a binary comparison that sort of also impacts dealmaking?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I'll add to that, Chuck. I think there's a lot
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: more uncertainty to this question. Huge.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Than folks appreciate. I would just add one more piece
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: of uncertainty. We talked about the Democratic Party, the Republican Party.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: We focus on Trump for sure. I mean, he's a president.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: What he does will matter and how.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: He acts will matter. But look. We have been debating
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: for the last decade when when and if and whether
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: the Republican Party will at some point writ large say, wait,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: what the hell are we doing with this guy again?
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: And if Republicans lose, certainly in the House, I think
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: probably is likely gone. But the Senate as well. Is
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: there a. reckoning even within.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: A 15 of the republican party that says what the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: hell are we doing who leads it how does he
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: react like a.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Friend of mine noted this they're like donald trump you
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: know let's say let's say uh democrats sweep texas right
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: yeah until i go in yeah a friend of mine
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: compared it to Boy, this is just like Donald Trump's
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: business career. He took his father's inheritance and ended up
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: bankrupting the company. It's like he inherited the Republican Party,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: and in 10 years, he lost Texas. Pretty remarkable. Right?
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: And it is sort of the person compared it to
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Trump essentially bankrupting Fred's company. The arc. Right. It's sort
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: of a similar, and it made me laugh. I think
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: that that's– the other thing, too, is like, At some point,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: you mentioned this in passing, but at some point here,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: the race to replace him, it would.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Have already begun under anyone other than Donald Trump. But he,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: you know, he don't let anybody steal a spotlight. But
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: at some point, the race to replace him will start.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And, you know, obviously, Vance, we know. But, you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: like the Ted Cruz's and the, you know, like, look,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: what is the camp? I mean, right. Brian Kemp is
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: a great example. Yeah. As a candidate, you know, he's boy,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: he's leaving off me. 70 approval rating very popular for
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: a two-term governor of anything some of this is just
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: uh a whole bunch of people who would never vote
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: for but we're like man the guy's not trump thank
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: god right and they're just he's a republican but he's
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: not trump right and and they're sort of he gets
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: rewarded by certain independents and democrats i think for not
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: being for for basically standing up to trump yep um
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: what kind of appetite is that is there for the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: part you know and and Look, do I think that
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: if Republicans nominated Brian Kemp, they would it would be.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: to me, proof that they've all gotten their sanity back.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: They realized Trump was a disaster. You know, I just
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: don't picture that happening as easily as, you know, do
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's just like, do I think Democrats ought
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: to go into a lab and just say, Hey, let's
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: do Kelly and Warnock and be done with this. Pastor
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: populism by Chuck Todd. The pastor and the astronaut. Just
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: like if you're the Republicans, Jesus, just do Brian Kemp.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: And you know, um, Ashley Hinson, go, you know, like that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Or Katie Britt and Brian Kemp. That's the thing.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: They never do what they should do, which is what
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: makes it interesting. But yes. And I just I think
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you said that kind of like
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: how hard it is to decipher, because I just think
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: assuming that the next two years would go like the
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: last two years, the thing we know most about Trump
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: is not only is he deeply unpredictable, he revels in
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: kind of upsetting expectation.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, I don't know how the
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: hell he's going.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: To, we know the election was rigged and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how he's going to react in,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: in March, 2027.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: He doesn't respect people that have no power. So if
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: the Republican party in Congress has no power, he's not
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: going to care about them. And he's going to, in
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: his own way, say, you did this to yourself, even
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: though we all know Donald Trump did this to them.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: But that's not how Donald Trump's going to behave. He's
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: going to behave like, well, this is your fault for
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: not passing the SAVE Act. This is your fault for
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: not getting rid of the filibuster. It's Karl Rowe's fault
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: for not funding Ken Paxton. So he's going to self-soothe.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: And in his weird self-soothing period, it is going to
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: make him a legislative wildcard. But I go back to
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: how much are Democrats willing to work with him and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: go down that road? Because it is a scorpion and
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: frog moment. He's going to sting you. 100 is the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: sting worth it right is the is the ride you
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: need to get across the the river whatever it is
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: yeah is it worth it i don't know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: And two other quick things on that. One, he does
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: remember he does have pre-existing relationships prior to being president
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: with both Akeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer because of New York.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Closer with Schumer, but he does have relationships with both
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: of them. And we talked about Jeffries and his peril,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: but look at Schumer. I mean, does Schumer, has Schumer
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: made up his mind that he's going to retire and
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: therefore he's going to go legacy, some kind of big
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: deal with Trump? Or does he want to try to
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: run again and keep AOC off of him? Can I
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: give him advice that he'll never take and no one ever? Sure,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: that's the business we're in. Isn't that the business we're in? Yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: that's what we do. Advice no one takes. Right. You know,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: the minute Patello gets called for the Senate, let's say
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of what's the You know, Alaska,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: we won't know on election night because of rank choice voting.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: Rank choice. So, you know, as soon as Abdul El-Sayed
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: finally gets called, right, say, you know, I assume that
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: we're actually going to be waiting on Michigan, technically. It
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: counts so slow. You know, well, it'll be just. And
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: it'll be close. Right. You know, one of the weird
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: aspects of election night is Democrats could have a huge night,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: but we won't know it between the hours of 8
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: and 11. Because it's not like if they have a
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: huge night, it means they win a lot of close
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: races in places they've never won or they haven't won
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: in a long time.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I'm depending on your home state because Florida counts super close.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: So if Andrew Nixon comes anywhere close to Ashley Moody,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's going to.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Be a good night for them.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: No, I think that Florida might be a tea leaf reader.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: And we've got, you know, I. Shoot, the state of Virginia,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I have said, has small, medium and large. Virginia two,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Virginia one, Virginia five.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: That's right. Tom Perriello. Tom Perriello wins. Coming to Congress.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Watch out. Democrats are winning the House by a lot.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: So.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: But you're right. It is possible. It's like Pete Buttigieg
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: winning the Iowa caucus.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Right. Like four days later, you figured out. But the
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: point being is, as soon as it's clear, if Democrats
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: win the Senate majority, as soon as it's clear. if
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer announces I'm not running for leader, you know,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I said I was going to bring, I'm not running
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: for leader. I am, you know, handing, you know, I,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to step down. This is, you know, I
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: worked really hard for this and now I want to
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: set up the party. Yeah. Crowning achievement.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: He would, it would sort of diffuse all of this stuff.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: It would give everybody a chance. It was sort of
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: allow for a reset and a reboot, but, Politicians don't
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: ever walk away from new power. Nobody willingly gives up power, man.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: That's right. They just don't. If he gets a chance
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: to be Senate Majority Leader again- He's not going to
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: be able to walk away from it, even though I
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: think being Senate majority leader while Trump's president isn't that great.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: And I think it.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Sets you up for particularly when you're up in that cycle.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: You have AOC.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Sitting out there like. But yeah, nobody willingly gives up power.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It's like when people are like, I can't believe Biden's
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: running again. I was like, of course, Biden's running again.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think folks realize Schumer's vulnerable position.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: To any Democrat. I think that's right. Anyone from his left.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: She is she would beat him, but he's vulnerable from
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: anyone from his left. I think I don't even think
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: it's just from the left. You're just anyone. I think
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: anybody 25 years younger.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: You know, no, I just think he's vulnerable. I mean,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: his numbers are not good in the state among Democrats. Like,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: let's say AOC said no. And Letitia James said yes.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: who would you bet on? Letitia James or Chuck Schumer?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: It would be hard. I think it's hard for him.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's, I think he's in a very, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: it's a, it's a close to unfixable problem. Cause I
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: don't know that the left is going to be like, Oh,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer won us the Senate.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Correct. You know, he's not, there's nobody, you know, Bernie
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Sanders is the only person in his eighties that isn't that,
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: that isn't at being asked to leave the stage. Right.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: And like if Richie Torres announced against Schumer, that would
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: be a problem. It would be. Yeah. But I can
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: come up with seven different. I know. Challengers. This is
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: not just about AOC. Yeah. Right. That's a good point.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, again, if you care about the
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: future of the Democratic Party, taking himself out, taking his
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: chess piece just simply off the board.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Really does diffuse the left here a little bit. Diffuse,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: defangs them a little bit and allows for the younger,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: quote unquote, establishment, your Alyssa Slotkins, your Brian Schatz, to
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: sort of, to define themselves. No, to let a thousand
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: flowers bloom. Right, to not be defined. The problem for
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: a Slotkin and a Schatz right now, this next generation
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: of sort of mainstream Democratic leaders, is that they're, They're
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: going to be defined by Schumer's politics when really they
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: need to be establishing their own and having him step
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: away certainly clears that field a little bit. You know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: we'll see. Like I said, like you said, people don't
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: willingly do power. No, they just can't. But it would
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: be the ultimate leadership moment for him. And it would
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: dovetail with the what is the Democratic Party really debate
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: that will happen at the.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Presidential race to be a real moment. Well, he would
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: do something that Joe Biden didn't have the guts to do.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Yep. Right. You know, Joe Biden had to be shoved.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: And look at the impact it's had on the Democratic Party.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: And I don't know why. I mean, if Joe Biden
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: walked away after one term, what I would say to
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Schumer is, why do you want to be shoved? I know.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Why do you want to be shoved out? You know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: be celebrated. Go out on the wrong note. Go out
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: on a valedictory note. But they never do. They never do.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: It's like athletes. They never do. It's like one more season.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: One more season. I get it. But all right. Let's
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: do sports because the U. Chuck's. I know. I don't
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: want to be number one in October, brother. It's a
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: burden to carry.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: You've got to break the wind of everybody behind you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: But you won in a battle of the Todd family.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: For people who don't know, Chuck's wife is a Florida
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: State alum. Florida State Miami.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: At Hard Rock. It was, yeah. In at least the
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: first quarter, I watched and I did not know you
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: were there. I was like, man, anyone who was there,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: this must be miserable because it was sheeting down rain.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: It was just, well, it was just consistent. And it
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: was for the entire first half. It did sort of
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: let up a little bit in the second half. So
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: the U wins in double overtime. They get the ball
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: first in double overtime. They score very quickly.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: And then they run a trick play where Malachi Toney,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: who is absolutely incredible, incredible wide receiver, they run the
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: halfback option basically to him.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: They throw it. He starts running. He then throws a
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: pass into the end zone for the two-point conversion. Florida
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: State comes. They have nothing going on. And the kid
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: bombs it in the end zone. And it looks like Florida.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: State has caught it, but they have not. It has
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: actually been intercepted game over. Miami jumps to number one overall.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Chuck had an interesting experience there with some interesting people.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Florida State wasn't going to win that game. On that play,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: the best they could do was tie. No, they would
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: have had to. And then we were going to go
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: to these ridiculous sort of– I think we had the
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: exchange of two-point conversions. Yes, then you just do two-point conversions,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the third OT. Right, you go back and forth. Look,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: it was what it was. It's a rivalry game. And
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: you say yourself before the game, well, it's a rivalry game,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: so I expect it to be close. But there's always
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: a part of you that thinks– you know, we really
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: should blow them out. Be nice for it to be
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: 41-0 at halftime. I don't want to be stressed, right?
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I have been to some amazing games that
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Miami's been involved with, but the more amazing that they're
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: involved with, the less fun I have attending, right? You're
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: just a ball of nerves, you know, and it's just,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: you're just sort of relieved at the end. But like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: it was so funny. I am so oblivious when I'm
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: at a game at the end of the day, I'm
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: just wanting to be, you know, I'm locked in. I'm
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: actually not the best person to go to a game
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: with because I really don't want to socialize. I literally like,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you know, I watch the game, right? I don't go
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: to a football game to socialize. I go to a
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: football game to watch a football game, particularly Miami football games.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Luther Campbell was sitting in front of me the whole time.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: And we have exchanged, like he goes, You look familiar.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: And I was like, and I didn't, you know, he
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: was there with his son. And then it sort of
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: dawned on me. That's congressional candidate Luther Campbell to you. Oh,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I know. At the end of the thing, he goes,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: you know, we follow each other on Twitter. I went,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Uncle Luke. Yeah, that's Uncle Luke. That's Miami royalty. Right, exactly.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: And so we had a nice little moment. And then I,
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm in. all of his videos from the
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: game have mostly my wife behind him more than me.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: And of course, he's in her full Florida State regalia
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: and the videos. And, you know, one thing about Uncle
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Luke's videos, man, they're always very trolly and Florida State.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And he's, you know, he loves his you. That's for sure.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: You view it as a mixed blessing. We were talking
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: before we started.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: First time since 2002, Miami has been ranked number one.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Any time in the season.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: You'd rather be ranked number one at the end of
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: the season than in the middle.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Look, obviously, take it for what it is. If you
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: were to ask me, it's like, do I think we
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: have proven we're the best team in the country yet? No,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: I do not. I can't sit here and say we have–
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I think– I do think the most disrespected team in
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: college football is Wake Forest. I just can't– I just
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: think they're incredibly disrespected. Yeah, because they haven't been– they
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: don't have a tradition, so people don't listen to them. Well,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: there's no difference to me between Kentucky and Wake Forest
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: except Kentucky is in the SEC and Wake Forest isn't.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: And Wake Forest– I mean, that's all it is. Right.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Once in the SEC, once in the ACC. Right. And
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: that's the only reason. But Wake Forest is having just
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: as good of a season and is just as good
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: of a chance. And I'll throw A & M, my team,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: under the bus.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: The Kentucky win against A & M looks much less
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: impressive now than it did three and a half weeks ago.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: So– but look, it is– I will tell you this, the,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: the game that I'm, I'm big, I didn't know. I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: wanted Notre Dame to win. I wanted Notre Dame number one.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted it with Miami at the number two slot
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: going into South Bend. Um, but no, it looked, I,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: this is, I'm very curious to see how crystal ball
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: and this team handles it.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Which is now everybody's the targets on our back. Yep. Um,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: the way college football works, everybody is, we may, we
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: may have a massive advantage started a starter, but the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: depth issue is something nobody has. Nobody has depth. Not anymore. Right.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You just don't have the depth you once had in these,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: in these big time programs. So look on any, on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: any given Saturday. I mean, that Saturday was amazing. The
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: question is, in the world of a 12-team playoff, let
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: alone a 24-team playoff, the Saturday was interesting, but not decisive.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: In an era of a 24-team playoff, it just was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: an interesting day of college football that really has very
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: little impact on who makes it and who doesn't. It's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: so true. I don't know how we're going to feel
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: about that long-term.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: You and I are of an age where If your
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: favorite team lost a game, that was it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Almost it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Because the national championship game was almost always two undefeated teams.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Or if it was a one-loss team, it was somebody
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: that lost a game in September. Right. On the road
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: to another good team. Right.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: And now a loss is much less– It is much
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: less disqualifying to lose. Right.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: In a 12 and certainly in a 20 to 14 playoff.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: You know, however, coming up when you have these two
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: lost teams playing each other, I mean, LSU is in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: a playoff game every week right now.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Can't lose again. That's right. I know that feeling. After
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: Miami lost two games in a row last year, you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: were like, boy, they have an outside shot as it is,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: but they can't lose again. And oh, when they win,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: they better win impressively. Yes. You know, you do Notre Dame.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think they can lose another game. I don't
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: think they can lose another game. That's probably right. Their
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: schedule doesn't support their schedule. It's just they they have
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: to beat Miami. And I don't I. Is that Notre Dame, Chuck?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: It's at Notre Dame. Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: So that's probably like a toss up game at Notre Dame. Oh,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame will be– my guess is Notre Dame. Do
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you think they'll be favored slightly? So the look-ahead line,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: they've been favored anywhere from six to seven.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's too much. So we've been about a touchdown.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's too much because I think on a
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: neutral field, Miami will win. It's a three and a half.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: My feeling is that means on a neutral, they're saying
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame by field goal, and I disagree with that.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I totally disagree. I think it should be three to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: three and a half. At Notre Dame, meaning it's either
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: a pick-em or Miami slightly favored on the neutral field.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say something pretty arrogant. I think Miami's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: better at every single position on offense. Well, Mensah is
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: clearly better, in my opinion, than Carr. They don't have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: anyone as good as Malachi Toney. I mean, only Jeremiah
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Smith is better than Malachi Toney, I think. I think
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: our backfield is better. You know more about the defense.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: I think our receivers are better. So, no, I couldn't
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: say that on the defensive side of the ball, but
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I am confident, and I think that that's– one thing
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: that Mensa taught me yesterday or on Saturday, I guess
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: it was now is he can handle, you know, he
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: can handle mistakes. Like you want to see what happens.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Of course. Arch has struggled, right? When he makes a mistake, he, he, he.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I would much rather have Mensa than Arch. And it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: not just because I hate UT. I mean, I just
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: don't think Arch has proven it. He looks the part,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: but when he plays the actual game, I.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Have, I have a lot of empathy for Arch and
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: I know other people don't. I really do because nobody,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: you know, he, He didn't choose to be a Manning. Nope. Okay.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: So it is what it is. I'd get out of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: that fishbowl. I mean, look, I think the mistake they
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: made was going to Texas. Yes. I think you should
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: have gone to like Ole Miss. Well. Even then, it's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: the SEC. But that would have made sense. Yeah. Arch
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: went there. Eli went. I mean, sorry. Archie Manning went there.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Eli went there. Right. It is. And I think Cooper
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: went there, right? Or where did Cooper go? He may
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: have gotten Ole Miss, too, because he got hurt. I mean,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: he did not play football. Yeah, he played briefly.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, UT is such a– it's the largest NIL
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: school for football.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: It's, you know, I mean, it's like going to Ohio State.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: It's just a fishbowl. It's just a fishbowl. And do you–
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: you know, that's the question. There was this– Miami Twitter
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: exploded on Monday over– because some guy on, I guess,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: CBS's football– college football show– said maybe Arch ought to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: go to Miami. And it's like, you know, cause Miami's getting, look,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: one thing about Miami's offensive coordinator is getting a positive
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: reputation of, of making QBs look good. And, and, and,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: you know, there are different styles of quarterback, Cam Ward
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: to Carson Beck to Darian Mensah. So I certainly think that,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: that Shannon Dawson has a, is developing a good reputation
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: as a guy who knows how to, how to improve
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: a quarterback's ability to perform. But I don't know if
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I want Miami with that fishbowl either. It's just a lot.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: That's the tough thing. for Arch. I assume he doesn't
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: leave the SEC if he transfers. I think that's right.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's right.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: And I think at this point, he's going to have
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: to go to school for one more year to improve
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: his draft stock.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: I agree. I'd go to Georgia. Apparently, it was Georgia
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: and Texas, right? I think was the... And Georgia will
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: need a quarterback, right? Because what's-his-name is graduating. And I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: just think that Kirby has a way to... You know, quarterbacks...
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: aren't aren't, you know, automatically becoming great pros out of Georgia. No,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: it's been a while.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Stafford, Matt Stafford. Right. That's a long time ago.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I am intrigued at all him potentially transferring to Ole
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Miss only because Trinidad Chambliss after 42 years in college
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: will be in a, you know, he'll have used up
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: his eligibility.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: They'll need a quarterback. Yeah.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they will make a big play
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: for that. Now, do they have the NIL budget to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: do it? That's its own set of expectations, right? You
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: go to the school that your grandfather went to and your.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Uncle went to. The question is, is it Sark or
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: is it Arch?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you keep Sarkeesian. None of us know
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: the answer for sure. No. But, you know, it's not
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: like Texas fans. There's certainly plenty who look at Quinn
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Ewer's who was a five-star recruit at Arch, and start
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: to ask, is it Sark? Right. Why are we not
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: better with the talent that we have? Yeah. Well, Miami
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: University is number one. No, they are not. The University
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: of Miami. The University of Miami is number one.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Miami University is playing the Ohio Bearcats in the MAAC.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Kent State in the MAAC. By the way, alma mater
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: of my wife. The University of Miami, number one. So
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: it's a good day for Chuck Todd. Who do you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: got currently?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Ray's Brewers.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Most boring series for people who don't really care about
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: baseball ever, but I like it.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Give me the race. It's a good, it's going to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: be great baseball.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: You're not going to know very, almost anybody other than
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: junior Caminero and Churrio probably, but right.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: But let me, let me look, I think the Indiana
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma city comparison is The NBA finals, they got better
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: every game. And by game seven, everybody was engaged. Oh,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a great series. I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: think the Brewers-Rays have a shot at that. Now, I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: think Brewers-Guardians might have been a slightly better series to sell.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: It bothers me that the Rays couldn't sell out playoff games.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Do you think they'll sell out the World Series? They should. Yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: You know why? Because Brewers fans will travel. Yeah. Brewers
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: fans are going to sell out the Trop. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: If the Trop can't, if the Rays fans can't. I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: think it's the.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Rare example in baseball, especially just because of the, I
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: think they are the two best teams have made the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: World Series.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Pete Seat. Pete Seat. Of course. Every year,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: every year he goes to one World Series game. That's right.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Indiana's finest, Pete Seat. He's done it like twice. So
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: good news for you, Pete. the trop is a cheap ticket.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, he will not bankrupt. It's
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: not Yankees, Dodgers. It's not Dodgers, Yankees, which would have
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: cost him a lot. You might be able to get
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: a really good seat for this one, Pete. Pete seat.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Love Pete seat.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Pete. The Chuck Todd cast three times
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: a week. Follow Chuck. Dynastic, which is the.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Sort of athletic. Apologies that we're a little low, a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: little late. Today, we had to tape early Tuesday rather than.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're actually taping day of. So you're getting Chuck
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: and I fresh up.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Early in the morning.
• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:30
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  Speaker 3: on YouTube, on Spotify. We hope you do.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: We've got one more show before the election, one more podcast,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: and we are going to have a big announcement coming
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: very soon. Two more shows because we tape on Tuesdays.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Chuck. I forgot about that. That's going to
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: be a weird show. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: The Tuesday, November 3rd show is going to be a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: little bit weird because it's going to be, we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Do something fun. We'll figure out something fun to do.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: a and no i'll tell you we'll we'll yeah i
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  Speaker 3: mean we'll we'll we'll figure out like uh maybe we'll
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: do a push you know we'll do a if you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: had to pick on each of these races we'll do
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: something fun we'll figure out something fun to do but
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: it's gonna come out the day of the election we'll
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: pick every race and every nose yeah that'll be fun
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: um we'll even pick the railroad commissioner race in texas
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: we'll bow french hang on um And we've got an
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: announcement that will be coming in the relatively near future
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: about what Chuck and I will be doing on election night.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: It may come out in between these two, but just
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: stay tuned. We will make you aware of it. You're
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: going to want to tune in. It's going to be awesome.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I'm already super excited about it. So we'll see you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: next Tuesday. And then as Chuck, this is why Chuck
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: is here to correct me when I do dumb things.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: We'll see you the following Tuesday.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: While voters are voting so uh super tuesdays check it
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  Speaker 3: out subscribe like comment thank you my friend see you
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: brother