Latest / Motivational Podcast / Special Forces: Success Secrets That Will Change Your Life Forever
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- 0:02Speaker 1: I've just always been someone who can put one foot
- 0:04Speaker 1: in front of the other. I remember running off the
- 0:07Speaker 1: back of the helicopter and you know, that was the
- 0:10Speaker 1: first time that I heard the crack and thump of
- 0:12Speaker 1: a round flying over your head. Lives short, and life's
- 0:17Speaker 1: even shorter when you're shooting bullets at each other. There's
- 0:20Speaker 1: kind of RPGs flying over our head. Machine gun fire.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Energy is something we've all got, right, We're all giving
- 0:27Speaker 1: off some sort of energy. I remember just running to
- 0:31Speaker 1: this wall and just getting down behind this wall, and
- 0:33Speaker 1: we all just looked at each other and just went, well,
- 0:35Speaker 1: this is it. So my name is Jay Morton x
- 0:48Speaker 1: X Special Forces XSAS, and I come from Preston. Like,
- 0:53Speaker 1: I wasn't really someone that got into trouble a lot,
- 0:56Speaker 1: but I think kind of looking back, I was just bored,
- 1:00Speaker 1: just bored of the topics that we're getting taught. I
- 1:04Speaker 1: didn't really like school, and at the time, when you
- 1:05Speaker 1: were a young kid, you don't understand why, but it's
- 1:09Speaker 1: literally that it's a lack of stimulation. And that transferred
- 1:16Speaker 1: onto when I went to college. After I left school,
- 1:19Speaker 1: I went to study sport and yeah, like again, like
- 1:24Speaker 1: enjoyed playing sport, but like nine of the time was
- 1:28Speaker 1: sat in a classroom in a cage, and you know
- 1:32Speaker 1: that's not where I'm supposed to be, so like quit
- 1:35Speaker 1: after a year. Then I just got stuck in dead
- 1:39Speaker 1: end jobs working in factories. And I had a job
- 1:43Speaker 1: making uPVC glass windows and a job as a delivery driver.
- 1:52Speaker 1: And yeah, that kind of sparked my interesting in going
- 1:54Speaker 1: into the military. Like I've always been into fitness or
- 1:58Speaker 1: pushing myself, like even as a kid, Like I was
- 2:02Speaker 1: the one that was going out running when I was
- 2:04Speaker 1: at school. You know, I remember like my parents or
- 2:08Speaker 1: I remember a but you know, for Christmas, I wanted
- 2:11Speaker 1: like the weights bench out of Argos, right, and the
- 2:14Speaker 1: set of weights, and I was like thirteen years old,
- 2:16Speaker 1: just trying to get massive, just doing everything completely wrong.
- 2:21Speaker 1: So like from an early age, I kind of found
- 2:23Speaker 1: comfort in pushing myself. I think human beings are just
- 2:28Speaker 1: pre programmed to just take the easy option. And the
- 2:33Speaker 1: world we live in right now just gives so many
- 2:36Speaker 1: options to being. Like we live in a house, right
- 2:39Speaker 1: we don't have to feel the weather outside of the elements,
- 2:42Speaker 1: you know, there's no rain, Like we've all got a
- 2:44Speaker 1: warm bed to sleep in. We've all got cash in
- 2:45Speaker 1: the bank, whether we work or not. You walk down
- 2:49Speaker 1: to the shops or getting your transport vehicle, your car.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It's like everything's easy, right, Like life is set up
- 2:57Speaker 1: to be easy, and so it's more about just you know,
- 3:03Speaker 1: it's by no one's fault that everyone just ends up
- 3:06Speaker 1: living the easiest life that they possibly can and just
- 3:09Speaker 1: and you know that that monotonous kind of life that
- 3:13Speaker 1: everyone just seems to fit into right, leave school, get grades,
- 3:16Speaker 1: go to college, get a levels, study, get to university,
- 3:21Speaker 1: and then get that nine to five job, like earn
- 3:24Speaker 1: a load of cash, save up for your retirement, retire
- 3:28Speaker 1: have that mortgage in that car, and I don't know,
- 3:33Speaker 1: it's like you've got to be able to pull away
- 3:35Speaker 1: from that and try and understand why everyone's doing that.
- 3:38Speaker 1: And everyone's doing it just because everyone else is doing it,
- 3:40Speaker 1: and that's not a reason to be doing stuff. So
- 3:44Speaker 1: you've got to like say, well, what do I want
- 3:47Speaker 1: in life? What do I want to do? And you know,
- 3:52Speaker 1: for me, the military gave me a lot of those
- 3:54Speaker 1: answers because it was something completely different. I think even
- 3:58Speaker 1: just go into war in a battle, of being involved
- 4:01Speaker 1: in combat, you know, you grow up in a different
- 4:03Speaker 1: way and you get to see the world in a
- 4:05Speaker 1: different way. I always thought that I wasn't set out
- 4:18Speaker 1: for the normal life, do you know. We have this
- 4:21Speaker 1: vision of a normal life where you get up in
- 4:23Speaker 1: the morning, you kiss your wife goodbye and wave goodbye
- 4:26Speaker 1: to your kids, and set off on your nine to
- 4:28Speaker 1: five job on the trainer in the car, and you
- 4:31Speaker 1: work for those eight or nine hours during the day
- 4:34Speaker 1: and then finish and then come home and go to
- 4:37Speaker 1: bed and then repeat that. I don't know, like I
- 4:39Speaker 1: always I always kind of knew deep down that like
- 4:43Speaker 1: that life would just not entertain me from the start.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Even now, I think, you know, that good feeling or
- 4:48Speaker 1: that good instinct is is generally how I navigate through life.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And you know, I think the more you do it
- 4:56Speaker 1: and the more you actually follow that good feeling and
- 5:00Speaker 1: and listen to it, the more in tune you get
- 5:02Speaker 1: to it. But back then, you know, sixteen seventeen years old,
- 5:08Speaker 1: it was I don't know, Like I I've always had
- 5:12Speaker 1: it in that like I'm competitive, right, I've always wanted to,
- 5:16Speaker 1: you know, secretly or or whatever, just be better than
- 5:20Speaker 1: the people around me, because I never I guess I
- 5:22Speaker 1: never had that growing up. Like I was quite a
- 5:24Speaker 1: chunky kid and quite a shy kid. So I've always
- 5:28Speaker 1: just had this this thing that's followed me around. You know,
- 5:32Speaker 1: I've always had this like vision of myself following me
- 5:34Speaker 1: around that I'm just this shy, chunky kid that I
- 5:37Speaker 1: was when I was younger, and I've always just tried
- 5:39Speaker 1: to get away from that throughout my life. Like I
- 5:42Speaker 1: was nineteen years old turning up at basic training, and
- 5:46Speaker 1: you know, you know, I still had that like element
- 5:48Speaker 1: of that fat, shy kid that was like chasing me around.
- 5:52Speaker 1: So like when I turned up, I remember turning up
- 5:54Speaker 1: at the train station and I remember looking around at
- 5:57Speaker 1: the other lads and just thinking some some big, big
- 6:02Speaker 1: lads or but like but everyone looks stronger and fitter
- 6:05Speaker 1: than you, or like more confident, or you know, you
- 6:09Speaker 1: just have this perception of them and they're probably you know,
- 6:11Speaker 1: looking back now, they're doing exactly the same. They're looking
- 6:14Speaker 1: at you going like fucked, Like these guys are stronger
- 6:18Speaker 1: fitter than me. I think it's just something that humans
- 6:19Speaker 1: have got ingrained into am. You turn up as a civilian,
- 6:42Speaker 1: you know, wide eyed, eager, get your head shaved and
- 6:47Speaker 1: and you leave as as a soldier and it takes
- 6:51Speaker 1: six months. I kind of shocked myself getting through that
- 6:55Speaker 1: because I was never I was never the fittest, like,
- 6:57Speaker 1: I was never the strongest. I was never at the
- 6:59Speaker 1: front like. And we used to do these exercises where
- 7:03Speaker 1: you know, you'd be it'd be warm up before we
- 7:06Speaker 1: went on a tab and the PTIs would you know,
- 7:09Speaker 1: point to a tree and just say right, everyone to
- 7:12Speaker 1: that tree and back, last last ten, go again. And
- 7:15Speaker 1: I'd always been that last ten, and then it'd be right,
- 7:19Speaker 1: go again, last five, go again, and I'd always been
- 7:21Speaker 1: that last five. But I kind of like I had
- 7:25Speaker 1: a bit of a theory around that, and then I
- 7:28Speaker 1: guess because I was never the fittest, never the strongest,
- 7:31Speaker 1: but I've always completed stuff and always hung on. So
- 7:34Speaker 1: I've always been used to being, you know, in that
- 7:38Speaker 1: fatigue state, like that's quite normal for me, which, as
- 7:42Speaker 1: we all know, that builds resilience and that builds a
- 7:45Speaker 1: stronger mind and body. Whereas the front runners, they were
- 7:49Speaker 1: just used to, you know, running at their normal pace
- 7:52Speaker 1: and just being okay with that. So you know, when
- 7:55Speaker 1: you deployed to places like the jungle or some of
- 7:57Speaker 1: these harsher environments where everyone is on that level of fatigue.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Like for me, it was just normal, and you'd see
- 8:06Speaker 1: some of the fittest people just fall over and you know,
- 8:10Speaker 1: collapse with heat stroke or you know, just not be
- 8:12Speaker 1: able to carry on just because of the conditions. Do
- 8:18Speaker 1: you know what, Like my head goes empty when you're
- 8:20Speaker 1: in that dark place. I've just always been someone who
- 8:25Speaker 1: can put one foot in front of the other. And
- 8:27Speaker 1: I think if you break down any mental or physical challenge,
- 8:33Speaker 1: it's just a case of progression. And as long as
- 8:37Speaker 1: you can keep that momentum and keep that progression going forward,
- 8:41Speaker 1: you'll get to where you need to go.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Have you ever had a point in time where you've
- 8:46Speaker 2: obviously applied that method one foot in front of the other,
- 8:49Speaker 2: but you felt like me, I couldn't put that next
- 8:51Speaker 2: foot in front of the other foot.
- 8:52Speaker 1: No, No, I like going back to again like I'm
- 8:58Speaker 1: in my comfort zone when I'm went on fatigued, So
- 9:04Speaker 1: you know that I just know that I can just
- 9:06Speaker 1: keep you break it down, right, and it's just one
- 9:09Speaker 1: step and then the next step is just one step
- 9:13Speaker 1: and just you know, forget about where it is that
- 9:15Speaker 1: you need to go and just concentrate on that next step,
- 9:19Speaker 1: and like the rest is just time and time moves right,
- 9:23Speaker 1: time ticks down, and then eventually you just find yourself
- 9:27Speaker 1: in that position, you know. I joined the Powers I
- 9:31Speaker 1: was nineteen years old, deployed to Iraq. I was twenty
- 9:34Speaker 1: deployed to Afghanistan in two thousand and six, I was
- 9:36Speaker 1: twenty one, and yeah, like we got involved in like
- 9:41Speaker 1: heavy fighting pretty early on, and like twenty one years old,
- 9:46Speaker 1: like all your mates are still doing the same thing
- 9:47Speaker 1: that they're doing back at home, and you grow up
- 9:50Speaker 1: very quick. It's a different kind of education. And then
- 9:58Speaker 1: I think, kind of you, like you're full of testosterone
- 10:01Speaker 1: when you're twenty one years old, aren't you, And you
- 10:04Speaker 1: know you almost I don't know, you kind of want
- 10:07Speaker 1: to be in battle, but at the same time, you
- 10:09Speaker 1: don't want the bad. You don't want the negative aspects
- 10:12Speaker 1: of it, Like you don't want to see your mates
- 10:14Speaker 1: die or anyone die for that reason on your side.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And I think the older you get, like the more
- 10:23Speaker 1: wiser you get, and the more you're able to like
- 10:25Speaker 1: listen to your body and mind more and just like
- 10:29Speaker 1: understand more about I guess what you want and where
- 10:33Speaker 1: you fit into into combat. And I guess like the
- 10:39Speaker 1: the further on in my career was more of just
- 10:43Speaker 1: like seeing what human beings are just capable of doing
- 10:47Speaker 1: to each other. And again, you can look at that
- 10:52Speaker 1: in like a really negative way, but I kind of
- 10:55Speaker 1: I looked at it as a positive. And just because
- 11:00Speaker 1: you know, life short, and life's even shorter when you're
- 11:04Speaker 1: shooting bullets at each other. So it's like, you know,
- 11:08Speaker 1: there's there's kids or whatever, or young people or all
- 11:12Speaker 1: these people dying and it's like they're all living in
- 11:14Speaker 1: this like hell whole kind of thing. And it was
- 11:20Speaker 1: for me, it was more about, you know, it taught me.
- 11:24Speaker 1: It taught me more about just how I want to
- 11:26Speaker 1: live my life outside of that area and understanding that
- 11:31Speaker 1: life's short and you do what you do what you
- 11:34Speaker 1: do to make you happy, and you follow those things
- 11:37Speaker 1: instead of you know what we say about like following
- 11:41Speaker 1: that normal life dream. Energy is something we've all got, right,
- 11:49Speaker 1: We're all giving off some sort of energy. You know,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I call it drains and radiators. Like people are either
- 11:54Speaker 1: a drain or or they're a radiator. You know, you
- 11:56Speaker 1: always know that drain. When you're around that person, you
- 11:59Speaker 1: generally they come away feeling drained, right, That's what they do.
- 12:02Speaker 1: They negative people. They're the kind of people that make
- 12:04Speaker 1: excuses for what they're doing, whether they're wearing the wrong
- 12:07Speaker 1: boots or you know, they're not our breakfast that morning. Yeah,
- 12:11Speaker 1: they're they're drains, right, And I think the more you're
- 12:13Speaker 1: around those people, the more you feel it. And then
- 12:16Speaker 1: you've got radiators, and radiators radiate energy, right, you know,
- 12:21Speaker 1: a radiator you know when you're around someone because they're
- 12:23Speaker 1: positive people. They've always got your back, they've always got
- 12:28Speaker 1: new ideas, they're always doing stuff, they're always wanting to
- 12:30Speaker 1: move forward. And I think the more you can be
- 12:33Speaker 1: around radiators and the less you can be around drains, like,
- 12:37Speaker 1: the better energy is going to be. Right. Positive mindset
- 12:40Speaker 1: is important, just seeing things in a positive way. You've
- 12:44Speaker 1: only got to turn the media and news on now
- 12:46Speaker 1: to be swarmed with negative and it's about, you know,
- 12:51Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with good people having goals and ambitions and
- 12:59Speaker 1: seeing every fucker and failure is just a positive. You know,
- 13:03Speaker 1: everything's there to learn, everything's put in front of you
- 13:07Speaker 1: to learn from and it's how you view the world. Right.
- 13:10Speaker 1: If you view the world in a positive mindset, and
- 13:13Speaker 1: you're always going to be moving forward, you're always going
- 13:15Speaker 1: to be creating and meeting good people. On that two
- 13:37Speaker 1: thousand and six tour of Afghanistan, so the first time
- 13:41Speaker 1: that I came under contact, we deployed to a place
- 13:46Speaker 1: called Nao Zad. We had a patrols platoon that were
- 13:49Speaker 1: already stationed there doing some reki stuff, and we literally
- 13:54Speaker 1: landed on these landed in these H forty seven helicopters.
- 13:58Speaker 1: I remember running off the back of the cooped her
- 14:00Speaker 1: and you know, that was the first time that I
- 14:03Speaker 1: heard the crack and thump of a round flying over
- 14:05Speaker 1: your head and we just run into this massive scrap
- 14:09Speaker 1: that the patrol's lads were in. So there's kind of
- 14:13Speaker 1: RPGs flying over our head, machine gun fire, and we
- 14:16Speaker 1: just looked at each other and just burst out and laughter,
- 14:23Speaker 1: and yeah. I remember just running to this wall and
- 14:26Speaker 1: just getting down behind this wall and we all just
- 14:28Speaker 1: looked at each other and just went, well, this is it,
- 14:30Speaker 1: isn't it? Like this is it started? And that was
- 14:33Speaker 1: a long day, Like you know, I think we're in
- 14:35Speaker 1: contact for say six to eight hours, and personally, you know,
- 14:40Speaker 1: I think once you get over the like once you
- 14:42Speaker 1: get over the first reaction of the first round that's
- 14:45Speaker 1: been fired and the first round that you've heard, the
- 14:48Speaker 1: rest of it just all sounds sounds the same, Like
- 14:51Speaker 1: you're in that moment then, and the rest is just
- 14:53Speaker 1: about thinking logically about how you combat that situation and
- 14:59Speaker 1: how you get out of situation. Like I've felt fear
- 15:01Speaker 1: before in the past, and yeah, like fear generally only
- 15:10Speaker 1: happens for like a short period of time because there's
- 15:14Speaker 1: usually a logical explanation that you can put to why
- 15:18Speaker 1: you're feeling that fear, whether it's around that's just cracked
- 15:20Speaker 1: over your head or something that's just exploded, or you know,
- 15:24Speaker 1: maybe there's some rock fall on a mountain, Like that's
- 15:27Speaker 1: a moment to be scared, right, but there's a logical
- 15:30Speaker 1: explanation for it, and there's usually an action that you
- 15:32Speaker 1: can take which is going to get you out of
- 15:34Speaker 1: that fear feeling and get you to some sort of safety.
- 15:37Speaker 1: So you've got to break it down that way. I
- 15:40Speaker 1: think kind of the things that scare me more than
- 15:44Speaker 1: than those dangerous kind of things are just you know,
- 15:49Speaker 1: like living a stagnant life or living a boring life,
- 15:55Speaker 1: like boredom and mediocrity fit like scare me way more
- 15:58Speaker 1: than than climbing out risk or being shot at. And
- 16:03Speaker 1: I think, like I'd hate to just get to the
- 16:05Speaker 1: age of like eighty or ninety years old or one
- 16:08Speaker 1: hundred and just turn back and just think that I've
- 16:10Speaker 1: wasted time. It could be quite intimidating when you first start,
- 16:23Speaker 1: because especially me, like I was twenty four when I
- 16:26Speaker 1: passed selection, and like the rest of the guys in
- 16:30Speaker 1: my troop were all you know, late thirties, early forties,
- 16:34Speaker 1: they're all men, and yeah, so it's quite intimidating. And
- 16:41Speaker 1: they've already got high standards, right, They've been using all
- 16:44Speaker 1: the kit and equipment and doing runouts way before I've
- 16:47Speaker 1: turned up. So it's you know, I've now like I've
- 16:51Speaker 1: done a six month course, right, which is selection, But
- 16:53Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that I'm a Special Forces soldier Like
- 16:56Speaker 1: that comes after, like when you start training with the teams,
- 16:59Speaker 1: when you start learning different crafts. The selection is like
- 17:03Speaker 1: a race of attrition, and you generally start with around
- 17:07Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy in
- 17:10Speaker 1: the first three weeks you're probably down to around fifty
- 17:13Speaker 1: and then you go out on the next phase and
- 17:17Speaker 1: you know you could come back with say twenty twenty
- 17:19Speaker 1: five people, which is probably a good a good course,
- 17:23Speaker 1: and then the rest of it's just training to get
- 17:25Speaker 1: you ready to join during the squadron. I think for me,
- 17:31Speaker 1: like I enjoyed selection, Like there wasn't one day when
- 17:35Speaker 1: I woke up and just went that I didn't want
- 17:37Speaker 1: to be here. It was more just about It was
- 17:41Speaker 1: more just about, you know, just proving to myself that
- 17:46Speaker 1: I could get through each day. And I kind of
- 17:50Speaker 1: found enjoyment in seeing people fall off. I think a
- 17:54Speaker 1: lot of people do as not in a bad way, right,
- 17:56Speaker 1: I didn't rub anyone's face in it, but when you're
- 18:00Speaker 1: doing things that are difficult and you've got an easy
- 18:04Speaker 1: option to get out, you can just walk off and
- 18:07Speaker 1: package it and go. You'll be in a warm shower
- 18:10Speaker 1: and bath and you know, whatever food you want, so
- 18:13Speaker 1: it's easy to quit, which makes it you know, the
- 18:18Speaker 1: majority of people do quit. I think when that happens,
- 18:21Speaker 1: like you see their weakness and it pumps you, puts
- 18:25Speaker 1: you up a level, right, puts you up a level
- 18:26Speaker 1: of puts your strength up a little bit. As the
- 18:38Speaker 1: less able members, the less able soldiers start to drop off,
- 18:43Speaker 1: you end up with a tight knit bunch of guys
- 18:45Speaker 1: that have all been through the same shit and you
- 18:51Speaker 1: form bonds through those Through those dark times, you can'tact
- 18:55Speaker 1: it with a bit of humor. At the end, you're
- 18:58Speaker 1: left with a good group of ads. I think failure
- 19:08Speaker 1: is something that you should be seeking because to do
- 19:15Speaker 1: anything that puts you out of your comfort zone, you're
- 19:17Speaker 1: going to fuck up every now and then, and that
- 19:19Speaker 1: is you know, that's failure, right. You know you shouldn't
- 19:24Speaker 1: aim to fail, but you know, failure should be a
- 19:27Speaker 1: byproduct of what you're doing, because like I look back
- 19:33Speaker 1: at some of the stuff I've done that I've I've
- 19:35Speaker 1: you know, what you would see is my biggest failures
- 19:38Speaker 1: in life, and that's where you learn the most. Like
- 19:44Speaker 1: you learn the big lessons right from failing, just like
- 19:48Speaker 1: listening to myself instead of listening to other people, I
- 19:51Speaker 1: think as well, like everything that you see is being hard.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I think you know, when you start making progress, it
- 19:58Speaker 1: starts opening doors, right, and then those doors open other doors,
- 20:03Speaker 1: and then those other doors open other doors. And you know,
- 20:06Speaker 1: in no time you've kind of gone through different journeys
- 20:08Speaker 1: and passed and ended up in places that you never
- 20:10Speaker 1: thought you would do. Just start small. You've got to
- 20:14Speaker 1: like be honest with yourself, right, it's your choice, Like
- 20:17Speaker 1: it's your life, like no one else is gonna change it.
- 20:20Speaker 1: So you've got to make that decision. You know, if
- 20:23Speaker 1: you're not happy with your life and you wanna change it,
- 20:24Speaker 1: then then do it right. And and and I don't
- 20:28Speaker 1: know what that is, what what anyone else is feeling,
- 20:30Speaker 1: but you know, if you start small and whether it's
- 20:34Speaker 1: you know, you you wanna get in shape, like start walking,
- 20:38Speaker 1: start trying to create habits that are that are healthy
- 20:40Speaker 1: for your body and for your mind, you know, start
- 20:44Speaker 1: walking during a gym, during classes. Put yourself in these
- 20:47Speaker 1: situations and this is where you grow, right cause you're
- 20:49Speaker 1: putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation. And my uncomfortable situation
- 20:53Speaker 1: is completely different to someone else's uncomfortable situation. And you know,
- 20:57Speaker 1: you could say that a million times over. And career
- 21:03Speaker 1: is like a big one, right, Like that's the that's
- 21:06Speaker 1: the that's the comfiest thing that people have is a
- 21:09Speaker 1: career and money coming in because that's you know, without money,
- 21:13Speaker 1: like the chances of being homeless and not being able
- 21:16Speaker 1: to pay for food for your kids and your family,
- 21:19Speaker 1: Like that's that's the biggest fear, right And I can't
- 21:22Speaker 1: tell anyone to change that. You know, You've just got
- 21:26Speaker 1: to ask yourself whether that's something that you want to change.
- 21:36Speaker 1: We live in a normal world where people associate their
- 21:38Speaker 1: skills to the job role they've got or the qualifications
- 21:43Speaker 1: that they've got in university of college. Whereas like like
- 21:46Speaker 1: I've gone gone and set tasks up in certain countries.
- 21:49Speaker 1: That's the same as setting a business up right, It's
- 21:51Speaker 1: just different in a way. You've just got to look
- 21:54Speaker 1: for different things. You've got to look for connections, you've
- 21:56Speaker 1: got a network, you've got to buy assets or you know,
- 22:03Speaker 1: buy things in and get people to do stuff here.
- 22:06Speaker 1: And that's the same in business. The two are the same.
- 22:09Speaker 1: So it's more about just understanding what you can do
- 22:11Speaker 1: as a person, because it's way more than what you
- 22:14Speaker 1: think it is. And you just get led to believe
- 22:17Speaker 1: that all you can do is that nine to five
- 22:19Speaker 1: or that job that you've got, whereas actually, like we
- 22:23Speaker 1: live in such a world where you can just log
- 22:24Speaker 1: onto a computer and learn anything that you want to
- 22:27Speaker 1: learn and reskill yourself in anything. It's so easy, you know,
- 22:31Speaker 1: going back to what we were saying before, it's like
- 22:33Speaker 1: the world's an easy place to live in. And I
- 22:35Speaker 1: don't think the human bodies set up to not feel struggle.
- 22:38Speaker 1: You know, We've struggled all our life, right And if
- 22:41Speaker 1: you think the reason why we're all sat in these
- 22:43Speaker 1: buildings and eating good food is because we struggled in
- 22:45Speaker 1: the past, and that struggle has generated systems and put
- 22:50Speaker 1: things in place. And now we've built supermarkets and cars,
- 22:52Speaker 1: but that all came from struggle. So good things come
- 22:55Speaker 1: from struggle, but it's hard to find it these days.
- 23:00Speaker 1: You know. It goes back to what I was saying before.
- 23:02Speaker 1: It's like struggle could just be going for a run,
- 23:04Speaker 1: or struggle could be reading a book. You just doing
- 23:07Speaker 1: something difficult, like when I was that shy kid, Like
- 23:10Speaker 1: struggle for me was just having a conversation with someone.
- 23:14Speaker 1: But like the more I do it, the better I become.
- 23:16Speaker 1: You know, if you can look back in ten years
- 23:18Speaker 1: and just go like, fuck, I used to have a
- 23:21Speaker 1: conversation with someone. Now I can walk into a room
- 23:23Speaker 1: and speak to everyone openly and confidently. Like that's what
- 23:26Speaker 1: you get from struggle, right. I think fitness and exercise
- 23:31Speaker 1: is the easiest and best way to just find some
- 23:34Speaker 1: sort of struggle. And it's manageable, right, It's manageable. It's easy.
- 23:38Speaker 1: You join a gym, you go out for a run,
- 23:40Speaker 1: and you've got something to work for. If you start running,
- 23:42Speaker 1: you can work up to a five k ten k marathon.
- 23:45Speaker 1: It's measurable. You've got goals that you can tick off.
- 23:48Speaker 1: If you're going into a gym, you can start lifting
- 23:50Speaker 1: heavy and you've got you've got a measurement, right that
- 23:53Speaker 1: you can go off that you can see yourself getting
- 23:55Speaker 1: better at something. Sports the same, like like I surf,
- 23:59Speaker 1: Like I can feel my every time I go surfing
- 24:01Speaker 1: getting better and better and better. And that's a good feeling.
- 24:05Speaker 1: And then you'll notice in other areas of your life
- 24:08Speaker 1: that you know, changes will happen. And whether it's you know, confidence,
- 24:14Speaker 1: or whether it's in the workplace, or whether it's in
- 24:15Speaker 1: a relationship, whether it's just your general happiness. Like the
- 24:19Speaker 1: more of these things that you do, when you're developing
- 24:21Speaker 1: yourself and getting better and better, everything changes. I think
- 24:25Speaker 1: if you want to go anywhere in life, you've got
- 24:27Speaker 1: to make some sort of sacrifice. You know, if you
- 24:32Speaker 1: think that you've got that safe, comfortable job right now,
- 24:34Speaker 1: there's going to be certain things that you're gonna have
- 24:35Speaker 1: to sacrifice. Whether it's friendships, you know, whether it's with
- 24:39Speaker 1: loved ones, whether it's with family. But if you want
- 24:41Speaker 1: to if you want to live back, live life by
- 24:44Speaker 1: your terms, you've got to make these sacrifices. Even if
- 24:47Speaker 1: you've got an excuse, you just don't say it, because
- 24:53Speaker 1: no one likes someone who uses excuses. It's just weakness.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Mmmm. It sounds like you've had a career and in
- 25:15Speaker 2: them in that career you've learned many lessons through stories
- 25:18Speaker 2: or experiences and then you're kind of putting them onto
- 25:20Speaker 2: paper through your own perspective of things that you've learned.
- 25:24Speaker 2: But in terms of your career or even maybe your life,
- 25:26Speaker 2: what do you think the hardest lesson you learned.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Was hardest lesson I've learned? H Listen to yourself. Yeah,
- 25:45Speaker 1: I listen to yourself before you listen to anyone else.
- 25:50Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna go into the story cause it's
- 25:53Speaker 1: it's not for this, but yeah, I learned the hard
- 25:58Speaker 1: way and a certain experience, or I listened to someone
- 26:01Speaker 1: else and something went wrong when I knew what I
- 26:05Speaker 1: should have been doing and I should have listened to myself.
- 26:09Speaker 1: And you're you know yourself the outcome or what you
- 26:14Speaker 1: want the outcome to be. So yeah, just listening to
- 26:18Speaker 1: yourself a little bit more like I have to own
- 26:22Speaker 1: the fact that I listen to someone else, which is
- 26:24Speaker 1: even worse, which plagues you're right, But then you learn
- 26:27Speaker 1: those lessons the hard way and like what you're saying,
- 26:32Speaker 1: like you know yourself where you want to go right.
- 26:35Speaker 1: It's like when you ask someone their opinion of something,
- 26:37Speaker 1: you already have the answer in your own head. You
- 26:40Speaker 1: just like you're just trying to find clarification or you
- 26:43Speaker 1: just want them to agree with you so that you
- 26:44Speaker 1: can go ahead and do it. It's important to find
- 26:51Speaker 1: purpose and everything that you do right, and that's you know,
- 26:55Speaker 1: it's just important. It's as important as it is in
- 26:58Speaker 1: your career or in your fitness regime or your motivation
- 27:05Speaker 1: because I guess like purpose brings momentum and me personally,
- 27:10Speaker 1: like if I'm not moving forward and I'm stale, and
- 27:14Speaker 1: that's like that's my worst nightmare. You know, we're all
- 27:19Speaker 1: searching for some sort of momentum and progress in life,
- 27:22Speaker 1: and you get that from just sticking one foot in
- 27:24Speaker 1: front of the other. Whether it's fitness, whether it's career,
- 27:29Speaker 1: just keep moving forward.