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Chuck & Buck 12-22 Hour 1: Chuck's out, Hugh's in! Checking out (a portion) of the board of scores & Ken Walker's most explosive game yet. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, folks, Good.
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  Speaker 2: Morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time. Good morning class.
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  Speaker 3: Lazy gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen. Behold a producing six one
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  Speaker 3: guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high school basketball stand
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  Speaker 3: What in the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Don't yumped any conclusions.
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  Speaker 4: No, not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 4: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 5: just openly admit I'm.
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  Speaker 1: A fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 4: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 4: Ashley Ryan. But to you by to Lado Casino Resort
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  Speaker 4: and Quilca the Greek Draft King sports Book where the
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  Speaker 4: action never stopped.
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  Speaker 2: To Welcome in Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said that before.
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  Speaker 5: But it is happy Monday because Christmas is almost here.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, it probably recognized already. It's not Hugh or
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  Speaker 5: it's not Chuck talking right off the bat.
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  Speaker 2: That's me. I'm the Buck portion of the Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck has taken a little bit of time off getting ready,
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  Speaker 5: probably trying to reevaluate and make Santa think differently about
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  Speaker 5: what he did this year.
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine reevaluate his life choices.
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  Speaker 5: Right, reevaluate his life choices, try to try to convince
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  Speaker 5: Santa that he was good because it's you don't have
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  Speaker 5: much time left and yeah, good luck.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of water under the bridge.
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  Speaker 5: One of the nice Christmas presents that our listeners get
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  Speaker 5: today with Chuck being out, is not me leading the show.
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  Speaker 5: We still have Ashley, So you're welcome for that. You
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  Speaker 5: have been good enough that Santa deliver that. But everybody
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  Speaker 5: gets their Christmas gift, and that is Hugh breedlove milon.
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  Speaker 2: For four hours.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's parallel to cold. But that's all right. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be with you. No, good morning, good morning, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: How's how was your weekend? Great weekend? Yeah, a lot,
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  Speaker 1: a good lot of a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great football. Got the adult.
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  Speaker 6: Kids in from the East coast. Nice, you know, a
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  Speaker 6: lot of family and the friend fellowship is good action
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  Speaker 6: love this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: That is, you know, I got it.
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  Speaker 5: I got to hang out with you a little bit
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  Speaker 5: during spring training. You know, I get basically one day
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  Speaker 5: of breed love at your house, and it's wonderful. I
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  Speaker 5: have always wondered what a Saturday Sunday at the mill
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  Speaker 5: in house is, Like, I mean, you down in that
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  Speaker 5: theater watching football?
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  Speaker 1: Are you?
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  Speaker 5: Are you watching upstairs in the living room so you know,
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  Speaker 5: the wife he can enjoy it along with you. Are
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  Speaker 5: you in your computer with that that rounded screen, basically
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  Speaker 5: that three sixty screen that you can just spin around
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  Speaker 5: in your chair and be watching eight games at one time?
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  Speaker 1: What he does have a lot of options?
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  Speaker 5: What is your Saturday Sunday football watching experience?
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  Speaker 6: Like I think, yeah, I think it's yes, yes, and yes,
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  Speaker 6: I think all of that at some point. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 6: cool little media room to to to take it in
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  Speaker 6: if you want to want the the immersive experience. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, there's you know, you gotta gotta hang out
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  Speaker 6: with the family and be in the sunshine if if
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  Speaker 6: there is any at any time.
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  Speaker 1: But so yeah, no, it's it's good. You know what.
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  Speaker 6: I what I what makes the the.
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  Speaker 1: Experience good is good football.
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  Speaker 6: And we got some of that, and you know, certainly,
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  Speaker 6: certainly Friday night the games not involving the Mountain or
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  Speaker 6: excuse me, the Group of five. Uh, you know, we're
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  Speaker 6: really good football, and then and then a lot of
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  Speaker 6: good day games yesterday as well.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, well let's uh, let's go into that.
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  Speaker 5: Then might as well just touch on the college football
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  Speaker 5: because we're going to talk a lot about the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: today where they you know, a little bit about the
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  Speaker 5: game that they played on Thursday and what that means,
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  Speaker 5: and heading into the final couple two weeks of the
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  Speaker 5: season here, we're not going to have as much time
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  Speaker 5: to talk about the college football playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: But what did you feel about those first round games?
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  Speaker 5: Obviously a couple somewhat snoozers, like you said, with a
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  Speaker 5: couple of the G five schools, but there was a
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  Speaker 5: couple of other really good games. And it's college football
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  Speaker 5: playoffs for CORIGHTWT. We don't get as much of that,
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  Speaker 5: so we're getting more now than we ever used to get,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm pretty happy about it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think that Friday had to hold intrigue for
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  Speaker 6: local parts, right, I mean, with the boor and how
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  Speaker 6: he was going to do in that rematch against Oklahoma
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  Speaker 6: and pretty shocking to see them get down seventeen to nothing,
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  Speaker 6: probably more shocking to see that it was thirty five
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  Speaker 6: to seven or something. Tune to that thereafter. I thought
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  Speaker 6: that that was an incredible middle passage of the game.
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  Speaker 6: When you know Matier, who doesn't strike me as a
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  Speaker 6: great NFL prospect because it's just that funky release and
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  Speaker 6: and I think there's some real accuracy issues. But he's
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  Speaker 6: a thick dude. You know, he's got a little t
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  Speaker 6: bow in him. And uh in terms of of his
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  Speaker 6: running ability, and uh, you know, the Alabama just looked
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  Speaker 6: non competitive to start that game right, defensively right and
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  Speaker 6: and then somehow they they kind of got their emotional
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  Speaker 6: juju going and and uh and and it started avalanche
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  Speaker 6: from there.
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  Speaker 1: And and of.
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  Speaker 6: Course Ty Simpson, I think really good quarterback, great college quarterback,
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  Speaker 6: plays like an NFL quarterback. One of very few Alabama
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  Speaker 6: quarterbacks I've seen in a long time, saddled with no
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  Speaker 6: running game that that running back stable, if you can
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  Speaker 6: call him that. For to my eye, I think it's
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  Speaker 6: about the worst group of running backs I've seen in Bama.
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  Speaker 6: And and so it's kind of all on the passing game.
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  Speaker 6: But if you protect for ty Simpson, I mean, he
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  Speaker 6: has really got some NFL skill set in terms of
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  Speaker 6: his processing and mostly accurate and whatnot, so they were
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  Speaker 6: able to get that offense going. I don't know, it
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  Speaker 6: was it was something I did I certainly didn't expect
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  Speaker 6: once once it started that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when that game did get it seemed like it
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  Speaker 5: was going to be getting out of hand. And yet
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  Speaker 5: maybe the biggest second half of Dubor's coaching definitely his
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  Speaker 5: biggest second half of his coaching career since he's been
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  Speaker 5: there at Alabama. I mean, I can't imagine what happens
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  Speaker 5: if they go out there and just lay an egg.
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  Speaker 5: If they played a second half the way they played
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  Speaker 5: the first half. Boy, Tuscaloosa would have been up in arms.
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  Speaker 6: Can you imagine what it would be like to be
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  Speaker 6: him and his family had it gone like that? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know have to go to a restaurant
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  Speaker 6: without getting, you know, some kind of major heckling. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that that is. I mean, we all know, following the legend,
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  Speaker 6: It's been said many times, don't follow the legend, right, Yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 6: not only that it would be hard under normal circumstance,
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  Speaker 6: but now to try and get Alabama fans to realize, hey, look,
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  Speaker 6: even if you had, would I say the Alabama had
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  Speaker 6: a magic magic closet Ashley where fifty five year old
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  Speaker 6: let me start up Nick Saban quickly seventeen years, he
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  Speaker 6: played in nine national championship games, greater than one every
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  Speaker 6: two years. He won six, greater than one every three years.
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  Speaker 6: He started at age fifty five, retired at seventy two.
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  Speaker 6: If he could go into that magic closet, close it
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  Speaker 6: or poof come back out at age fifty five. Now today,
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  Speaker 6: all fifty five years old, invigorated, ready to go, he
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  Speaker 6: ain't freaking doing, you know, playing in nine titles and
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  Speaker 6: winning six because it's just a different climate. And so
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  Speaker 6: so Alabama fans, I don't know if they're kind of
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  Speaker 6: aware of that. Maybe intellectually they are, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 6: if visily they are. You know, they just have that
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  Speaker 6: expectation and and they're playing on a different playing level,
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  Speaker 6: you know. And so for Debor, it compounds the the
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  Speaker 6: issue of following the greatest coach of all time, and
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  Speaker 6: and and and I would make that assertion just in
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  Speaker 6: this regard. If you look at Bill Belichick, how many
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowls and what he did without Tom Brady only
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  Speaker 6: won like forty six percent of his games, whereas Nick
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  Speaker 6: Saban won seven titles with six different quarterbacks. And so
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  Speaker 6: if you're comparing the two, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 6: there's any certainly in my lifetime. I mean maybe you
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  Speaker 6: say Bear Bryan or Newt Rockney or something, or Frank
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  Speaker 6: Lady or Notre Dame, you know, but but but are
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  Speaker 6: aruably the greatest of all time. And now you know Saban.
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  Speaker 6: Had he lost that game, as you said, yeah, Bucky,
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  Speaker 6: can you imagine.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, it would not have been good and it
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  Speaker 5: would have been rough, I would imagine, and who knows,
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  Speaker 5: maybe he would have jumped ship. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: I think that he's probably going to stick that out
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  Speaker 5: as long as they allow him to stick it out,
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  Speaker 5: and and he's for what it's worth.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like it's been horrible.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like you said, the the the bar has
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  Speaker 5: been set so high, and yet the bar is also
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  Speaker 5: unattainable to reach simply because of the climate of college football,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the way and what you have to do
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  Speaker 5: to get in now. And then the fact that it's
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  Speaker 5: not just a you know, we're going to vote on
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  Speaker 5: it or we're going to just put you know, four
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  Speaker 5: teams in or two teams in, however the case may be.
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  Speaker 5: It's still is going to be a run for whoever
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  Speaker 5: it is that ends up breaching the national championship game.
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  Speaker 5: So I would say that would have been interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Before you transition.
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  Speaker 6: I want to consider this that Kalin de Boor in
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  Speaker 6: his coaching career at Washington and Alabama, he is seven
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  Speaker 6: and two against top ten teams and he's eighteen and
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  Speaker 6: three against top twenty five teams. Eighteen and three. I'm
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  Speaker 6: trying to hunt this down, but there's some sources are
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  Speaker 6: saying that's the that's the best all time. I don't
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  Speaker 6: don't hold me to that, but but yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 6: you've got like Ryan Day is six ninety one, Dablos Sweeney, Sarkeysan,
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  Speaker 6: you know, all these guys. He's definitely number one in
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  Speaker 6: all of college football in that regard. So so when
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  Speaker 6: you kind of look at the record, there's a reason
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  Speaker 6: why Missing was saying, hey, if you don't want him,
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  Speaker 6: we'll take him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, he definitely.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think even with the it's odd
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  Speaker 5: because it's one of those you we you got to
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  Speaker 5: follow Nick Saban. And so whether you're it's the visceral
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  Speaker 5: reaction of well, this doesn't look like Sabin domination, or
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  Speaker 5: whether it's the idea of well, okay, we got to
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  Speaker 5: get like temporary expectations. To some degree, he is taking
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  Speaker 5: over for a legend. It's it still doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 5: it's probably real the way in which the reaction comes,
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  Speaker 5: whether I mean, they can win a game, and if
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  Speaker 5: it isn't absolutely dominant, there's going to be some Bama fans,
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  Speaker 5: they are still going to be made.
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  Speaker 2: But he won.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but sorry, I was looking to try and find
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  Speaker 6: this figure a moment ago. But check this out. So
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  Speaker 6: Nick Saban, Now, obviously it's a much bigger sample size.
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  Speaker 6: Nick Saban against top twenty five had a seven to
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  Speaker 6: thirty three win percentage. Dubor has an eight to fifty seven.
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  Speaker 6: Against top ten teams. Sabin had a seven to eleven
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  Speaker 6: UH and uh a seven to eleven and Debor has
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  Speaker 6: seventy eight HM. So now he's got to win championships
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  Speaker 6: and all that. But and again it's certainly apples and
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  Speaker 6: oranges you're talking about, you know, a multi day decade
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  Speaker 6: career versus you know, just the the four years that
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  Speaker 6: that I'm I'm I'm saying that's that's power for because
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  Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not talking about its Fresno State. I'm
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  Speaker 6: just talking about you know, but those four years, that's
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  Speaker 6: a that's a hell of an accomplishment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I mean he does get credit for it.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that he can't really compare his Fresno State stuff,
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  Speaker 5: because it's it doesn't it's it's comparing apples to oranges.
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  Speaker 5: But he was very winning coach. That's what got him
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  Speaker 5: the job here at you dub and and really an
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  Speaker 5: eleven three season is not bad considering you did advance
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  Speaker 5: in the first round of the playoffs against a team
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  Speaker 5: that you'd lost to in Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: So good for him.
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  Speaker 5: I think a lot of folks around here would say
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  Speaker 5: they wish that he would have lost. I'm I thought
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  Speaker 5: that they would win, and I'm kind of glad that
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  Speaker 5: they won. I don't necessarily want wish hard times on
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  Speaker 5: the guy just because he chose Alabama. That's a job
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  Speaker 5: that I think a lot of people would jump ship
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  Speaker 5: from a lot of different places if they had the opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: You know, three other games, there was a couple, but yeah,
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  Speaker 5: to that point, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm aware that I'm in the minority. I want to
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  Speaker 1: state that clear.
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  Speaker 6: And actually you can you can pipe in because because
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  Speaker 6: I know you're a Husky as well. For me, I
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  Speaker 6: look and I say, Kaylen and Borer actually started coaching
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  Speaker 6: the exact same year, and I believe it was nineteen
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  Speaker 6: ninety seven. It was the exact same year as Jedfish.
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  Speaker 6: And you can't find anybody in the industry to say
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  Speaker 6: a bad word about Kaylen ni Boor. You can't find
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  Speaker 6: and people. There's still some people that are Washington from
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  Speaker 6: when I was there, like Klan Boorr was just a
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  Speaker 6: very respectful human being across the board. He did one
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  Speaker 6: thing that could could draw your ire he left Washington
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  Speaker 6: for Alabama. And I understand that's going to get fans
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  Speaker 6: sideways and you're get root against forever. But let's understand this.
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  Speaker 6: Jedfish did Arizona exactly what Washington did, what Kaylin did
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  Speaker 6: to Washington. Agreed, we can at least say the current
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  Speaker 6: head coach at Washington if we're gonna, if we're gonna
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  Speaker 6: or drop the house on any I don't know. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think it's a moral sense, but whatever it is, well,
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  Speaker 6: how you want to condemn Kaylen de Boor, the acting
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  Speaker 6: sitting head coach at Washington did the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 6: And so I just find there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 6: an inconsistency that prevents me from drawing a big distinction
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  Speaker 6: between Kaylen de Boor and UH and Jedfish. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 6: in the minority. I root for Kaylen de Boor.
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  Speaker 1: I roomed for it.
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  Speaker 7: I think the only difference there would be in the
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  Speaker 7: way that they have both presented themselves. Like Kaylen de
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  Speaker 7: Boor came in and said a lot of things to
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  Speaker 7: make people think he wanted to be here for a
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  Speaker 7: very long time, and Jedfish has not done that. He
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  Speaker 7: has been very in the moment. While I'm here, this
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  Speaker 7: is what I will do, not you know, my family
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  Speaker 7: and I are putting down roots here. This is going
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  Speaker 7: to be my home, all of those things, and then
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  Speaker 7: leaving a team four days after they lost the national championship,
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  Speaker 7: after they thought this was going to be some program
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  Speaker 7: he was building for decades, whereas Jeff Fish came in
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  Speaker 7: and never promised anything really after each year.
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  Speaker 6: That's it, Okay, that's fair, And I think a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people hold that view. So so let's let's go
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  Speaker 6: back to in that scenario, if when when Kaylen Debor,
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  Speaker 6: who had been at Sioux Falls and then had been
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  Speaker 6: an offensive coordinator in Indiana and he went to Fresno State,
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  Speaker 6: he might have when he got to Washington like, whoa,
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  Speaker 6: this is this is the actual, this is the big time,
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  Speaker 6: and right there in those moments, he he might have
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  Speaker 6: had a sincerity that you don't call light detectors, whatever
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  Speaker 6: instrument you would use to gauge that that when he
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  Speaker 6: said that, he genuinely thought, Hey, I you know, I
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  Speaker 6: can't really envision a situation, a situation where I would
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  Speaker 6: want to leave. Whereas I'm not saying this is the case,
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  Speaker 6: but it could be the case. The jetfish comes in
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  Speaker 6: and he goes, hey, I know I'm jumping first opportunity
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  Speaker 6: I get. You know, there's a lot of teams I'll
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  Speaker 6: leave Washington for. And so so maybe in that scenario,
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  Speaker 6: Dubor was more sincere than Jed Fish. Now I commend
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  Speaker 6: Jedfish's He's kind of he's had to walk up a tight,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a balance beam that these coaches have to,
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  Speaker 6: you know, just to you know, what do they say,
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  Speaker 6: don't hate the player, hate the game the game is
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  Speaker 6: that is that you can't win for a coach and
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  Speaker 6: how you stay. Even his comments where he spoke for
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  Speaker 6: a min in forty two a few weeks ago about
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: you know what if you summed it up a mind
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  Speaker 6: forty two and do a three seconds his three seconds
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  Speaker 6: where I love Washington, you could not sum it up
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  Speaker 6: saying I am committed to Washington. At no point did
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  Speaker 6: he say he was committed to Washington. He just says
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: I love Washington, and that gives him the flexibility that
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  Speaker 6: if if you know, Florida or Michigan had offered him
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  Speaker 6: the job, then he could have taken And he said, hey,
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  Speaker 6: when I said I love Washington, it was the truth.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that there's.
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  Speaker 6: There's a sincerity that may have been present in Deboor.
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  Speaker 6: President Debor in a real, honest, genuine belief that he
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  Speaker 6: was going to be at Washington for ten or fifteen years.
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  Speaker 6: He just didn't foresee that in two years he was
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  Speaker 6: going to plan for the national championship. And when Saban
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  Speaker 6: sat that stepped down that he would have had that opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, I understand where the scorned lover is. I mean,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: you sit and watch what he did in his two
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: years here, and you're going to be like, I don't
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: want him to leave, And then he does. He basically
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: says that that girl's better look in the new are
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: and I don't it's not it's not I don't think
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: it's necessarily a knock. I mean, Alabama, you dubs the
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: story program, it's not Alabama's program. And and so I
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: think that there's a very likely possibility that he loves
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: it here, that he he enjoyed his time here, that
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: he probably didn't necessarily expect for it to go quite
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: as well as it did, and have the biggest vacancy
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: that is opened in I don't know, the last.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Decade of sports. It's definitely college sports.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I would think college football didn't expect that opportunity to
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: open up right before him, but it did.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: So I'm not going to fall that this is is
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: not not an entirely implausible scenario. If somehow Michigan were
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: to I mean, they got they got Larry Ellison, the
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: richest man in California.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: His wife is a Michigan alum.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, if they want to get you know, serious
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: about that, they could they could in theory. Uh lure
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Kalyn de boor so now in the Wars, Michigan's coach
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: and then Alabama Uh calls Dan Lanny. Yeah, you know
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: who was the Georgia defensive coordinator, but you know knows
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: that conference. And now all of a sudden, Dan Lanny,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: you know, and he says, well, Phil Knights, you know
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: eight buying green to banana. So let me just you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: boogy on, I'm not the guy replacing the replant like
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: that could happen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: To you guys. Oh yeah, it could happen anybody.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: It could, and it would be basically the same feeling
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: of Debora leaving here because he has said, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: I'm not leaving. He used to write all this more emphatic.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh, he's I'm not leaving. There's the grass
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: isn't greener on the other side. He I mean, I've
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: read or actually heard an interview where he was talking
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: about he used to write he still writes all of
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: his goals on his bathroom mirror, and one of them
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: was NFL coach. This is back when he started as
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: a graduate assistant. And yet he's erased that. Apparently he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: basically came out so much and said I don't want
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: I don't even want to go to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The NFL, let alone leave Oregon. He enjoys it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Now, after you say all that, if somebody just backs
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: up the brinkstruck and you decide, well, I'm gonna go
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go ahead and change.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can promise you that Jen Cohen, who is
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: a terrific athletic director to work for, you know, for
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: a football coach. You know, she's she's got more testicles
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: than a lot a lot of dudes that are out
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: there as ads, including some who've been at Washington, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: you know, I think there was more of a philosophical alignment.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: And then Troy Dannon, with whom he had no personal connection,
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: you know, those type of things. In fact, you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Calendmoordon never expected that he'd have to be working for
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: a guy that he has no respect for.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Right, I'm with you one hundred percent. You know what,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: We're going to get to a little bit more of.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: We're going to get some more of those college football
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: playoffs stuff in the second half of the show.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: We gotta find out right now, though, what's on tap
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the ya, what's on tap. What's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: on tap?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Well, we are going to talk mostly Seahawks and and
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: mostly the NFL football, basically heading into the final couple
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: of weeks of the season.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: The stretch drive is here.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about I want to get Hugh and
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Ashley's takes on Ken Walker's big day, if they saw
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: something there they think could be a breakout. We're gonna
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: have Greg Bell obviously to talk to Seahawks. We're gonna
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: have a guy named Mike Kay from the Carolina Observer
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: UH to talk a little bit about the Panthers. Short
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: week because of Christmas, we're not gonna have as much
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: time breaking down last week's game as we are gonna
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: be moving towards.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do both.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: We're gonna move towards the Carolina Panthers and what that's
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: all about. Mike Sando talk all NFL. We're gonna bring
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: back not coach Bucky because I'm not gonna ask myself
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: questions that would be bad radio.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go coach Breed Love.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: We're gonna I'm gonna ask him a bunch of different
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: questions and get his coaching take.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: On that whole thing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: And then I just want to kind of towards the
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: end of the show, figure out where guse your guys'
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: heads are at with best things, things you're like in
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: the most about the Seahawks right now, things that concern
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: you the most about Seahawks football. But on the other
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: side of this break, we're gonna go to what is
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: it called the cold Turkey.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Sandwich, Borida scores.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Borda Scores.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: We're gonna find out what else happened in the NFL
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: around this stick around here at KGr ninety three point
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: three KJRFM.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: May we'll line up under center, single receivers split wide
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: to the right offset eye behind.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: May takes the snap, he's back, He'll hand it off.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Stevenson breaks out to the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: Right side to the fifteenth down of the ten, picks
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: them a plot to the five. Stevenson the goal line.
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: It in touchdown Patriots. Ramondre Stevenson hunts twenty one yard
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: touchdown run and the Patriots are in front two to
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: oh seven a go. It's twenty seven twenty four New
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: England on the touchdown run from Ramondre Stevenson.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Thank you to Westwood one for that highlight. Uh yeah,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: the Patriots are pretty legit. I think that make it
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: might be the real deal. He seems pretty inflappable. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: saw him last night on what's his name on the
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: ESPN Scott van Pelt.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Afterwards, he was interviewing him and he.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Was trying to correlate maybe a little bit of you
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: know what, I kind of get a Scottie Scheffler feel
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: out of you, which was he was He's like, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: know that's high praise, but he was talking how he
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: just seems like he's even when he wins, he just
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: kind of downplays it and he's like onto the next one.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And when he loses, he doesn't really seem.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Like he gets too terribly flustered over it, which is
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: the even keel mentality you gotta have right here.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think so.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: I think that I've seen a different type of personalities.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: I think he either got to be fiery, like like
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: a Brett Farv you know it's okay, you know, a
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield at his best.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You know, those types.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: I think they can inspire teammates and if that's their personality,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: they gotta they gotta play that way. And then but
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: then there's guys that that are are kind of the
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: steady Eddy you know, unflappable types, and and uh and
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: and so there's certainly been quarterbacks that are successful in both.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: But I think this being a young guy, what what
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: they've done with bringing Vrabel over and and really Josh McDaniels,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: if there was a you know, a Coach of the
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Year for assistant coaches, he would, I would think be
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: in the running because, uh, you know, just you look
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: at what he's done in his past and now what
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: he's doing with Drake May, having Drake May. You know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: if he's not going to be the MVP, it's probably
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford, but he might be second.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: And and what they've done in that division, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: to to kind of wrest away that, uh that division
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: from the Bills.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I never saw this coming.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think many people saw it coming this
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: quick by anything. I thought Rabel was a damn I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: think he's a really good coach, and yet where they
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: were at last year for that turnaround to be where
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: they're at right now, I mean, he's probably in the
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: running for Coach the Year two.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: We're gonna actually.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Talk about that topic a little bit later, but that
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: was we were talking about the Patriots Ravens. Patriots ended
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: up beating the Ravens last night twenty twenty eight, twenty
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: four in Baltimore, and there was MVP chants for Drake
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: May on the road.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So a couple other scores.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: We're not gonna dive too terribly much into the Rams
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Seahawks right now in this segment. We're gonna spend most
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: of the show kind of talking about that game and
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: what they're doing moving forward. But as everybody knows, quite
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: the stunner on Thursday night, where the Seahawks pulled out
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: a thirty eight thirty seven win at home against the
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Rams to sniper first place. Moving into the final couple
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: weeks of the season, we got one more game tonight,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: the Niners versus Colts. Obviously some rooting interests there, considering
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: the Niners are still hanging around at ten and four.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Everybody around here i'm sure would like the Colts to
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: knock them off. There was a few other good games,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: not a bunch of great games, but some of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: games did have some some very interesting stuff. The Eagles
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: ended up beating the Commanders twenty nine to eighteen on Saturday,
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: but that Packers Bears game was a bit of a stunnard.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Did you get a chance to see that? And what
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: are you thinking about Caleb Williams at this point?
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: You well, he's an electric talent with his his his
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: strength in the pocket, his elusiveness, you know, the combination there.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: He has a real elite capacity to playoff script and
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: then uh, you know legit arm talent that you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: not only can he hose it when he has his
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: his weight behind him, he can be going in any direction.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's mahomes like. He's I think he's mahomes
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: like with his arm talent, and yet he's a better
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: athlete than mahomes more elusive, and so yeah, I mean
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: there's a reason why he was the number one overall pick.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: And and now you pair him with Ben Johnson, he's
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: got some good targets. They're they're protecting better for him,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: and and you know, I think that the maturation there's
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: kind of a symbolism yesterday, the throw that he had
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: to Dj Moore to win the game in overtime, where
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: he's going, you know, I mean it was by by
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: a magnitude of about fifty was more difficult than the
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: touchdown passed that he that he had that opportunity had
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: against the Packers a few weeks ago, that he just
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: vastly underthrew and you know, and yet and yet that
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: that didn't destroy his confidence because that was a brutally
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: poor throw. This is about a month ago, Mamber, that
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: one where he underthrew it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And you know that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: He's showing us more than just his physical ability, the
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: idea that that didn't affect him at all, that he
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: could come in and and do do what he did yesterday.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, they've got their guy and the bears of
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: any franchise that you could say, they've been like wandering
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: in the woods for forty years. Yeah, you know, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: even when they won the Super Bowl. Jim McMahon, he
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: went to the Pro Bowl that year, but never threw,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: never had a quarterback throw for four thousand yards. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: so they've been like the like the Cleveland Browns in
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: a lot of ways, just you know, the the NFC
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: version of the Browns can't find a quarterback for decades
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: and decades and decades.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Now they have one.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they wist certainly have one now.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: And another first overall pick, Trevor Lawrence ended up showing
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: out against my Broncos just went into mile high and
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: us put the smack down on him. I mean, the
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Broncos defense is legit now. That's they're not incapable of
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: having somebody kind of run over them, not run over them,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: but really kind of pick them apart a little bit.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: He hasn't typically been that guy, and yet the last
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: few games, for sure, five games or so, he's really
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: turned it on and he's starting to look like there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: a reason why he was the number one overall pick.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Well, he's been an interesting figure in the NFL because
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: just thinking back to you know, I think I've done
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: twenty seven drafts and there's only a couple where you
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: just say, Okay, this is a slam dunk, thought to
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: be a slam dunk generational, you know, no doubt like Lway,
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: almost Lway type. I wouldn't say Lway level, because nobody
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: has been Lway level, but I would say Andrew Luck
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: and Trevor Lawrence are the two most coveted and most
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: highly thought of quarterbacks, even more so than Cam Newton.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: That wasn't it wasn't a hard percent sure than Newton
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: was going to be the number one overall pick, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Andrew luck and Trevor Lawrence. It was, you know, like
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: a no debate about it. And he's been up, he's
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: been down. But I think that's been one of the
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: best coaching decisions that a franchise has made as well,
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: to get leon Colm pull him over from Tampa Bay.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: He seems to have made a huge impact on Lawrence.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: So he's always had the physical traits, right, Lawrence has
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: always had the physical traits. He showed it as a
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: freshman winning the National champions at Clemson, so he's been
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: on the big stage, and yet he's had these perplexing
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: years where it just seems like he doesn't have it. Mentally,
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: he can't he doesn't have the feel of playing the position. Well, yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: he's got the physical traits, but now the feel is
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: coming along and I can't help but believe that Cohen
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: has really accelerated that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we're going to get into more of that
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: when we do the little Coach Breedlove segment. That's one
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: of the questions I'm gonna ask you, is just the
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: coaching effect because we've seen it. We've just talked about,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: you know, basically Ben Johnson, what he's doing with Kayleb
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Williams and Liam Cohene, what he's doing there with Trevor
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Lawrence and Jacksonville. I mean, the coaching aspect in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: NFL is so much different than the coaching aspect in
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: the sport I played. I mean, a manager writes a lineup,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: you know, you got your hitting coach. You'll teach you
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: a couple of things here and there, but it is
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: not even close. Doesn't make a big impact.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: No.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, you have some that do, but it's nothing
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: like what a real coach can do to an organization.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: They have the little tweaks here and there, but if
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: you're not if you don't have it figured out like
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: a pretty damn good idea of what it is you're
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: supposed to be doing, they could be the best coach
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: in the world and they're not going to be able
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: to fix you. So we'll dive into that. That's our
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: nine o'clock segment. We're going to dive into a bunch
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: of different things that that one, but that is one
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: of the clear cut ones that I wanted to hear
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: your take on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna get to very many more. As matter
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of fact, we're not gonna get to any more of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the scores.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: There was another crazy game with the steer a Steelers
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Lions that way that thing finished. We'll get into that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I'm sure as the show goes on. But next I
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: want to get into a little bit of Hughes's mind
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: behind how ken Walker's game was this last weekend and
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: if he expects to see a little bit more of
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: that on the other side of this break at Sports
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, I thought one thing
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: we could do here in a short little segment is
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: celebrate ken Walker kind of the big game that he had.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Now a lot of.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Times with a running back, I feel like you're talking
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: about a big game like twenty carries two hundred yards.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Well he didn't get twenty carries. He got eleven carries
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: and and you know what, do you have three catches
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: for another sixty four? But a big game, I mean
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: big game and a couple of game changing moments in that, Hugh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: did you see anything different about him or did you
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: see something different about Clint Kubiak and how they got
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: the ball to him?
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I would say, yeah, how they got the ball
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: to him on the screen pass that forty six yarder
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: in the.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: First Yeah, they should do that again.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well they faked the boot and then which is
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: faking the stretch to him, and then he kind of
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: has to be a little bit of an actor slowdown, like, hey,
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't really have the ball, and then
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: and then you're faking Sam brawled out out to side
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: and then kind of a what's turned off on a
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: throwback screen. That was a perfect play design, great call
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: at the time. You get down inside the redsid and
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: you score a couple of plays later. The touchdown that
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: he had at the beginning of the third quarter, that's
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: a play called duo left. It's a twelve personnel two
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: tight ends with the one running back. You're going over
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: the left guard and you're trying to get a double
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: team there. So as he goes over the left guard,
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: nice block by Sindell coming off his perfect timing. The
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: motion had kind of jammed up the Rams defensive line
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: and the defensive line who should have been in what's
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: called the B gap between the guard and the tackle.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: He on Bradford kind of tried to jump back into
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: the A gap, which exposed the B gap. So here's
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker. He's going, oh, here I go left guard.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: What am I seeing? And then oh no, I'm gonna
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: go off right guard between right guard and right tackle.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: And then Cooper Cup the scheme of we talked about
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: in the summer. Kubiak likes to have his reduced formation,
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: so so Cooper Cup was very close to the ball
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: and from that alignment he was going to try and
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: block not the corner but the safety. So fundamental football
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: from a RAMS perspective is that corner has to stay
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  Speaker 6: outside and not lose outside leverage. But he sucks in
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  Speaker 6: too far into the middle of the field and that
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  Speaker 6: allowed Walker to bounce. But here's the part about it
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  Speaker 6: that those of us who are Kenneth Walker advocates are,
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  Speaker 6: it's your Every time you give the ball to Kenneth Walker,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: it's a roll of the dice that he finds that
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  Speaker 6: crease and then he's the guy who can finish it.
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  Speaker 1: He's the guy.
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  Speaker 6: Who can put the ball in the in the outfield,
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  Speaker 6: like into the to the into the bleachers. That guy
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  Speaker 6: can hit the home run. And you know the four
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  Speaker 6: to three to five speed that he had coming out
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  Speaker 6: versus Charbonnet, who was four to seven I believe, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: that's a difference. There's the reason why they take a
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: forty time and he can just break that down.
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  Speaker 1: So and then they threw a.
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  Speaker 6: Texas what's called a Texas route, a little angle where
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  Speaker 6: he starts to the right, comes back into the middle
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  Speaker 6: of the field, caught a nice thirteen yard for completion.
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  Speaker 6: And then and then now you asked me, was there
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  Speaker 6: something different that you remember the draw at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the second.
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  Speaker 1: Quarter on third and six seventeen that he got eighteen
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  Speaker 1: third and sixteen?
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  Speaker 8: Was it.
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  Speaker 6: That that run was just an incredible effort by him,
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  Speaker 6: incredible display of contact, balance and will to get that
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  Speaker 6: first down. And now Seahawks ended up getting fumbled with cup,
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  Speaker 6: so they didn get points out of it. But you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: he certainly was at his best and had his high
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: best game in the number of years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was kind of a funny moment, I thought.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, typically third and sixteen it is kind of
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: a right live to fight another day, try to punt
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  Speaker 5: the ball. And yet they ended up handing that draw
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: and and the crowd booze and then he runs for
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: one more yard than they need and then the crowd cheers.
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  Speaker 5: It was pretty funny. Uh, And that angle route or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: We call it an angle.
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  Speaker 6: Route, well, some people call it an angle route Texas.
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  Speaker 6: Mike would call it a Texas all the West Coast.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of West Coast offense disciples out there, John Group,
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  Speaker 6: you know, yeah, you know Andy Reid, you know it.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's called the Texas route or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: I used to kill my little brother with that on
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Madden Football Texas. Oh yeahh yeah. He'd always blitzed his
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: middle linebackers and I just.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Throw it right behind him. I don't know why Clint
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Kubiak hasn't right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you call that when what's called the hook zone defender,
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: which is a lot like a second basement or shortstop,
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: and an infant that those hookszone defenders when they're trying
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: to widen out real fast to cover the tight ends
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: and and they're they're to carry you out the analogy
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: that the gap between the source up and the second
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: baseman get wider than it should. That's when a play
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: caller should call that Texas rock.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense, makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: Get them running towards sideline and then boom, he puts
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: a swoot in the ground and goes back towards the middle.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: It was good play, a good game.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think everybody's hoping to see more of that, because, yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: the potential's there. I don't know, if he gets caught
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: in the backfield, uh and just doesn't get doesn't have
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: a chance to see that crease that he could possibly
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: exploit or what. But hopefully there's more where that came from.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: We'll dive into more of ken Walker and what we
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: saw and what we're hoping to see in the future.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: On the other side, we're gonna have Greg Bell and
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