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Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Scoop: Trade Deadline negotiations, Yankees w/o Aaron Judge, Conforto’s comeback · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: And here he is after senior insider Ken Rosenthal for
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Speaker 1: the Inside Scoop.
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Speaker 2: What do you have for us? Ken?
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Speaker 1: I mean, this sucks for the game to not watch
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Speaker 1: Judge for a bit of time, But how do you
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Speaker 1: think it impacts the Yankees.
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Speaker 2: It definitely impacts the Yankees, and I know that their
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Speaker 2: offensive players outside of Judge have largely performed well this year,
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Speaker 2: with some notable exceptions. I know Ryan McMahon and Austin
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Speaker 2: Wells obviously the two biggest, but when you take him
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Speaker 2: out of the lineup, it affects the entire dynamic of
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Speaker 2: the lineup and it puts more pressure on the other players.
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Speaker 2: So to simply say, well, they'll be fine without them
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Speaker 2: because there are other guys are hitting maybe not. So yes,
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Speaker 2: it's a big blow. At the same time, let's not
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Speaker 2: forget the bigger picture. The American League is as weak
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Speaker 2: as it has been since I can remember, honestly twenty
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Speaker 2: five plus years, and the Yankees are not going to
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Speaker 2: fall out of contention, and there six weeks in fact,
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Speaker 2: they very well may remain in first place. I would
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Speaker 2: expect that they could or second place in a playoff spot.
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Speaker 2: So because their pitching is so good because they have
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Speaker 2: more depth than in the past, they should be okay,
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Speaker 2: But clearly when you lose Aaron Judge, it's a huge blow.
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Speaker 3: Do you see the Yankees making moves that are a
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Speaker 3: little bit more unorthodox in this situation where Judge is
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Speaker 3: out their MVP? Right now, Ben Rice could slide into
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Speaker 3: the catching role, giving giving some of the guys that
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Speaker 3: are on the bench that are hitting better than Escara
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Speaker 3: and Austin Wells. Could you see Ben Rice catching more
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Speaker 3: or are they gonna keep that as fine where it
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Speaker 3: is and move elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, Eric, but it's
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Speaker 2: a good question, and I'm going out there today to
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Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium and it's one that I imagine will come up,
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Speaker 2: because certainly that is a way to get more offense
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Speaker 2: in the lineup. Now, Ben Rice, I don't believe he's
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Speaker 2: caught all year, though he does attend the catching meetings
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Speaker 2: and he's is capable of handling that position. But then
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Speaker 2: you get Goldschmidt into an everyday role where he has
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Speaker 2: thrived in the part time role. So I'm not sure
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Speaker 2: that is the way to go. What they have wanted
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Speaker 2: to do is add a right handed hitting catcher, and
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Speaker 2: that way it would take some of the pressure off
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Speaker 2: Wells offensively. Because of Ken's left handers, it's more of
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Speaker 2: a struggle for him. So I would be surprised if
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Speaker 2: they did anything radical to start with. Maybe if things
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Speaker 2: don't go so well, they might reconsider that, But for me,
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Speaker 2: I would not change up what I was doing with them.
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Speaker 2: I would stick with Rice as largely the DH first
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Speaker 2: base at times, and I would stick with Goldschmid in
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Speaker 2: the part time role and live with the catchers until
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Speaker 2: potentially they can upgrade. And it will not be easy
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Speaker 2: to upgrade a catcher. It's not a position that is
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Speaker 2: widely available. Most teams are looking.
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Speaker 1: All right, kind of want to take you to your
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Speaker 1: article from this morning, which I thought was fascinating because
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Speaker 1: it has to do with this trade deay line and
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Speaker 1: how it could be impacted by the labor battle. But
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Speaker 1: you and many others that you spoke to made good
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Speaker 1: points about why it's a little ridiculous to think that way.
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Speaker 1: I'll let you lay out the rest in terms of
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Speaker 1: your conversations and how people have to do this under
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Speaker 1: wraps since executives can't talk about the CBA.
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Speaker 2: Right Well, that's basically the way it is every time
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Speaker 2: there is collective bargaining negotiations, executives are forbidden from talking
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Speaker 2: about labor related matters by the league. It's kind of standard.
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Speaker 2: So the article is about how with players who are
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Speaker 2: eligible for free agency after the twenty twenty seven season.
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Speaker 2: In particular, there is a question coming up with the deadline,
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Speaker 2: Well do you trade for such a player when there
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Speaker 2: is a chance that part or all of the twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty seven season might be canceled, And it's certainly something
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Speaker 2: that executives who are buyers have to entertain. At the
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Speaker 2: same time, while it is something that will give some
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Speaker 2: teams pause, you're paying extra or you're paying for the
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Speaker 2: extra year that might not happen, or at least might
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Speaker 2: not happen in full. There were some trades last off
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Speaker 2: season which really met the fame same kind of description.
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Speaker 2: Last off season, Brendan Donovan gets traded he is under
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Speaker 2: control through twenty twenty seven. Mackenzie Gore gets traded he
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Speaker 2: is under control through twenty twenty seven, and both those
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Speaker 2: players brought significant returns. The example I used in the
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Speaker 2: story was Joe Ryan. Now, Joe Ryan has this mutual
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Speaker 2: option for next year, but if it's declined by both
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Speaker 2: parties or either party, then he will simply be eligible
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Speaker 2: for arbitration. So he is a free agent after twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty seven. And my expectation, after talking to some people
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Speaker 2: in the game, is that it really won't affect things much.
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Speaker 2: Such is the need for starting pitching. The teams will
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Speaker 2: pay for Joe Ryan. They'll pay essentially full price. And
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Speaker 2: while you might see some haggling, and you might see
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Speaker 2: some buyers saying, hey, I'm not going there because it's
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Speaker 2: just too much of an uncertain situation, Ultimately, all it
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Speaker 2: takes is one to step up, and the expectation among
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Speaker 2: most executives is that that will happen for a guy
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Speaker 2: like Ryan, a clear difference maker.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that why the trade deadline takes forever to the
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Speaker 3: last minute is because somebody's gonna step up and make
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Speaker 3: the trade. But will we be able to see anything
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Speaker 3: when we get closer to that. I know they can't
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Speaker 3: talk about the CBA, but it's in a sense like,
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Speaker 3: why does player X not have any any market in
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Speaker 3: the trade at the trade deadline? Is it because there's
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Speaker 3: internal talks that we don't you even as an insider
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Speaker 3: don't get privy too that, hey, you know what, this
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Speaker 3: is the way it's going, and that's how the CBA
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Speaker 3: could go and affect trade talks.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of talks that I'm not privy
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Speaker 2: to eric most talks actually, and again, I don't expect
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Speaker 2: that after talking with executives on this topic, and I
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Speaker 2: talk with a number of them, that it's going to
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Speaker 2: be a major factor. Four guys like Ryan Now, I
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Speaker 2: didn't write about Sandy al Contra in this context, but
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Speaker 2: he too, is an interesting player because he has I believe,
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Speaker 2: a twenty million dollar option for next season, So if
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Speaker 2: you trade for him, you have control, you can pick
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Speaker 2: up the option. But Sanda Contra is not pitching all
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Speaker 2: that well, so it's not that big an issue. And
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Speaker 2: maybe with a guy like that, and you're a team
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Speaker 2: looking at this, you're saying, well, wait a second, he's
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Speaker 2: essentially a rental because I'm not going to pick up
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Speaker 2: the option. Now, I did have one executive tell me
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Speaker 2: this is a guy on the buying side that he's
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Speaker 2: going to look at twenty twenty seven free agents as
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Speaker 2: rentals because he doesn't know what's going to happen with them.
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Speaker 2: That's fine, and I understand that, but ultimately he might
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Speaker 2: lose the player if that's the approach he takes and
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Speaker 2: makes offers in accordance with his view.
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Speaker 4: Ken and one team that always makes trades is the Padres.
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Speaker 4: With Merrill, Tatis, Manny Machado struggling a little bit, well,
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Speaker 4: they look at the deadline a little different. AJ Pelers
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Speaker 4: usually a whee learned dealer. Is he going to look
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Speaker 4: at a little different say wow, maybe we need to
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Speaker 4: make some different trades than we normally make.
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Speaker 2: AJ. Right now, it's wait and see, and they're in
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Speaker 2: a skid at the moment, and they do expect eventually
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Speaker 2: that Machado and Merrily going to hit. Tatis has sort
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Speaker 2: of started to hit a little bit lately. Their offense
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Speaker 2: is really surprisingly one of the worst in the league.
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Speaker 2: So if in two months, which is when the deadline is,
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Speaker 2: they are still in this offensive malaise, I don't see
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Speaker 2: how they can look at it and say we are
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Speaker 2: going all in here, they might not be in the
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Speaker 2: same kind of position. But on the bright side, for
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Speaker 2: the Padres, they've accomplished what they have essentially staying in
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Speaker 2: playoff position until right now without Joe Musgrove and you
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Speaker 2: Darvish and Nick Pavetta, and they've done it with their
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Speaker 2: three biggest hitters not performing to their career levels. So
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Speaker 2: if you have a situation where some of those guys
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Speaker 2: on the offensive side start performing better and they start
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Speaker 2: hitting more, and maybe they get one of the pitchers back.
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Speaker 2: They're not getting Darvish back, but must Grove and Paveta,
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Speaker 2: it's still possible, then you can look at it. Okay, well,
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Speaker 2: we can still go for it. Now. The X factor
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Speaker 2: here is whether the team's new ownership will give AJ Preller,
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Speaker 2: the GM, or the President Base Operations more leeway financially
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Speaker 2: to go make moves. Because remember, the Prodres have traded
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Speaker 2: a ton of prospects in recent years. That's what AJ
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Speaker 2: Preller does. But another way to make deals is simply
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Speaker 2: to take on money without giving up better prospects, which
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Speaker 2: is probably what would be preferable for the Prodres if
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Speaker 2: indeed they buy. Other teams believe that Preller is going
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Speaker 2: to get that leeway, that's kind of what they're hearing,
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Speaker 2: but it remains to be seen, and really it remains
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Speaker 2: to be seen AJ whether this team will merit reinforcement.
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Speaker 3: What about Cooper Pratt with the Brewers, a team that's
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Speaker 3: playing the game at a different level wins wise, but
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Speaker 3: also success wise, and how they're doing it. Is there
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Speaker 3: a chance that Cooper Pratt is a big league shortstop
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Speaker 3: for the Brewers as early as July this year.
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Speaker 2: I believe there is. And it's not just Cooper Pratt
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Speaker 2: they might call up. It's also Jet Williams, a third baseman,
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Speaker 2: or at least he would play third base for the Brewers.
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Speaker 2: They have an interesting scenario in front of him. They
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Speaker 2: have these players who are ready to go. There's an
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Speaker 2: outfielder as well named Lara who is tearing it up
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Speaker 2: at Triple A. They can do some things now. They've
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Speaker 2: been reluctant to do that when they've been playing so well.
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Speaker 2: But at some point, Cooper Pratt with a fifty million
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Speaker 2: dollar contract, he's going to be in the big leagues.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know if it'll be in June in July.
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Speaker 2: But you don't give a player that kind of money
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Speaker 2: and just stash him at Triple A the whole year,
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Speaker 2: especially when your shortstop joeyr Tiz is really not giving
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Speaker 2: you anything offensively. Defender Ortiz and will be a great
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Speaker 2: utility man if indeed he is replaced by Pratt, but
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Speaker 2: right now, offensively he's giving them very little. So Pratt
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Speaker 2: has done well at Triple A. Offensively, he's handling himself
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Speaker 2: pretty well. Jet Williams has done well. These guys could
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Speaker 2: eventually come up, and as I wrote, June fifteenth is
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Speaker 2: kind of a potentially key date here. June fifteenth is
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Speaker 2: the first time, the first day you can trade free
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Speaker 2: agency signed in the off season without their consent. So
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Speaker 2: perhaps at that point they trade Renifo and Gifo and
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Speaker 2: open up a spot at least for Jet Williams, and
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Speaker 2: then they make the move with Pratt as well.
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Speaker 4: Ken we talked about the Padres a little bit and
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Speaker 4: we had a conversation just today. Are they fool's goal
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Speaker 4: because they're they're kind of in it, but they're not.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's like you look at him and
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Speaker 4: you say, are they really good? Are they not really good?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 4: The same can be said for the Rangers. The Rangers
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Speaker 4: are under five hundred, but they're close to ale wildcard spot.
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Speaker 4: Are they legit contenders for the postseason in a deep
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Speaker 4: postseason run? Or is this kind of a fools goal team? Too,
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Speaker 4: because they have de Gram Vivaldi and their bullpen's been
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Speaker 4: really good, but they still haven't hit.
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Speaker 2: The difference between the Rangers and the Padres if for
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Speaker 2: comparing those teams, AJ is it the Rangers playing in
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Speaker 2: the American League. Seeger is supposed to come back tomorrow
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Speaker 2: or actually tonight, I believe, and that should help them,
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Speaker 2: though he wasn't hitting before he got hurt. Eventually they'll
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Speaker 2: get Wyatt Langford back as well in relatively short order,
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Speaker 2: and at that point they will see their offense hole
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Speaker 2: for the first time in quite some time. And while
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Speaker 2: they haven't hit, even with those guys, at least they
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Speaker 2: would have the chance to see exactly who they are
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Speaker 2: on the offensive side. Now, the crazy thing about the Rangers,
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Speaker 2: and you can look at the wildcard standings right there,
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Speaker 2: or that's the Als, But let's look at the wildcard standings.
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Speaker 2: The Rangers are in a group of teams along with
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Speaker 2: the Orioles, the Blue Jays, the Twins, even the Red Sox,
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Speaker 2: group of teams that has been incredibly disappointing to their
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Speaker 2: fan bases. And you get each of those teams that
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Speaker 2: I just named, Even the Red Sox are within striking
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Speaker 2: distance of the third wild Card. The Red Sox, I believe,
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Speaker 2: are three and a half games out as bad as
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Speaker 2: they've been three and a half games out of the
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Speaker 2: wild Card. So what I'm saying here, and it gets
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Speaker 2: back to the Yankees conversation as well, is that the
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Speaker 2: American League is endlessly forgiving a land of opportunity, and
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Speaker 2: you can't rule yourselves out as the Texas Rangers or
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Speaker 2: the Orioles or any of those clubs until ultimately you
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Speaker 2: see over the next two months where you are.
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Speaker 3: One of the people we've been talking about for a
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Speaker 3: while this week is Karen Majinski about the restricted list,
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Speaker 3: moved to the bullpen, wants to be a starter, and
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Speaker 3: then he went out and got a four inning save,
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Speaker 3: so he's throwing well. But you talked about you wrote
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Speaker 3: about how the Pirates are looking for relief help. Is
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Speaker 3: there anything significant about them looking for relief help before
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Speaker 3: the tradeline than any other team that's looking for relief help.
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Speaker 2: My understanding is eric that they've been a little bit
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Speaker 2: more aggressive about it now it's June fifth. Generally speaking,
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Speaker 2: not many trades are made June fifth, though they did
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Speaker 2: just trade Justin Lawrence, who had struggled with them to
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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins. You don't get, for the most part,
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Speaker 2: impact relievers this early before the deadline because relievers are
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Speaker 2: always in demand, the prices are always high, and they
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Speaker 2: get even higher the closer we get to August third.
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Speaker 2: So while the Pirates are trying, as one of their
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Speaker 2: people pointed out to me, so are twenty other teams.
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Speaker 2: And while they may be more aggressive than most, they
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Speaker 2: need to find some internal solutions first. And Majinski looms
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Speaker 2: as a potentially big one. Four innings last night really good.
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Speaker 2: And for all those people saying, oh, this guy needs
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Speaker 2: to go, well, guess what. He's a pretty valuable piece. Now.
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Speaker 2: He might not be happy, he isn't happy, but he
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Speaker 2: did his job last night, and I expect that he
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Speaker 2: will continue doing his job because he's been throwing the
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Speaker 2: ball well all year.
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Speaker 1: Kind of a couple more from your notes column. I
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Speaker 1: want to ask about Michael CONFORDO and what you learned
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Speaker 1: about his resurgence this year. Many Dodger fans were disappointed
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Speaker 1: they spent good money. The Dodgers did one year seventeen
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Speaker 1: million I think it was, and then this year signs
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Speaker 1: for I think two million bucks with the Cubs, and
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Speaker 1: they're getting a lot more value out of him.
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Speaker 2: So what happened. Conforida was disappointed too, and he told
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Speaker 2: me that when he went to the Dodgers, his thought was,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to slug with their superstars. I'll be right
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Speaker 2: there with Freddy and Otani, and that's going to be
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Speaker 2: the player I am. And of course he wasn't that player.
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Speaker 2: And when he wasn't that player, the way he put
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Speaker 2: it was I had no place to go. He kind
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Speaker 2: of lost his way, and Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, called
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Speaker 2: him in to his office late July, and said, listen, man,
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Speaker 2: you've got to give me a reason the player. You've
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Speaker 2: got to give me a reason to keep you around
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Speaker 2: now Canforda So stayed the rest of the year with
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, but he didn't make any other playoff rosters.
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Speaker 2: And it was only in October when he was kind
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Speaker 2: of on the taxi squad taking live batting practice that
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Speaker 2: Roberts saw the player. He wanted Conforto to be free
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Speaker 2: and easy, more athletic in the box, just kind of
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Speaker 2: doing his thing like he used to do at Oregon
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Speaker 2: State in the miners and with the Mets, and obviously
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Speaker 2: it didn't work out with the Dodgers, but then he
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Speaker 2: signed with the Cubs Scott, as you mentioned, and he
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Speaker 2: took into the offseason motivation to become what Roberts was
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Speaker 2: talking about, that kind of player again, and he's done
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Speaker 2: it for the Cubs. He has really had a resurgent
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Speaker 2: kind of season, and he credits Roberts a great deal
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Speaker 2: with that talk and kind of giving him a reality check.
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Speaker 3: Dan, I want to respect you unlike AJ does. Would
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Speaker 3: you rather be called short or little?
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Speaker 2: Well? I've called both often, along with many other terms
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Speaker 2: that cannot be printed, but I don't really care. Call
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Speaker 2: me whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Because you wrote that they that they Diamondbacks draft
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Speaker 3: little left handed and I know it's a quote by
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Speaker 3: Merrill Kelly, but they draft little left handed hitting outfielders.
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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about what you wrote about how
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Speaker 3: the short kings in Arizona are getting a job done well.
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Speaker 2: First of all, short is a relative term when we're
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Speaker 2: talking about short baseball players. We're not talking about short
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Speaker 2: baseball writers. Short baseball players five nine five ten or
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Speaker 2: like five six inches tall. Other baseball writers like I
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Speaker 2: don't know me, So it's all relative, but at the
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Speaker 2: same time, the Diamondbacks over the years have looked at
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Speaker 2: shorter outfielders shorter players in general, not in a negative way.
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Speaker 2: They've been willing to take them. And part of the
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Speaker 2: reason for that dates back to the front office's history
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Speaker 2: with the Boston Red Sox. That's where Mike Hazen came from.
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Speaker 2: He's the president of Baseball Operations, where Amil Sode came from.
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Speaker 2: He is their assistant general manager who was in scouting
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Speaker 2: with the Red Sox when they drafted Dustin Pedroia and
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Speaker 2: the scouting director when they drafted Mooky Betts, both guys
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Speaker 2: on the shorter side. So while some teams shy away
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Speaker 2: from some of these guys, the Diamondbacks see it as
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Speaker 2: if that player can hit and shows a little bit
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Speaker 2: of power, we're going to take a chance on him.
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Speaker 2: Corbyn Carroll the best example of that, of course, but
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Speaker 2: they had Alec Thomas for a while, They've got Jorge A.
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Speaker 2: Barosa now, they just brought up Tommy Troy. These guys
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Speaker 2: are all shorter, and some of their top prospects as
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Speaker 2: well fit the same kind of profile. So I just
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Speaker 2: found it interesting, and let's face it, I have a
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Speaker 2: little bit of I don't know, partiality bias if you
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Speaker 2: want to call it towards shorter guys. And I like
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Speaker 2: writing about him.
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Speaker 3: Kah. We all have our thing.
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Speaker 4: We all have our thing. We like Ken and we
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Speaker 4: don't like.
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Speaker 3: That's all I'm gonna say.
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Speaker 4: Uh, smaller guy, I would say than than a lot
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Speaker 4: of guys. And he's only he has one homer when
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Speaker 4: he has two homers now. But he was talking about
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Speaker 4: how he only had one home run. Does everybody need
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Speaker 4: to be a thirty home run guy? I know that's
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Speaker 4: how you get paid, but isn't there value in being
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Speaker 4: a good player, getting on base, stealing bases, playing unbelievable defenses,
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Speaker 4: shortstop instead of everybody being a thirty home run guy.
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Speaker 2: There is value in that aj And when Mason Winn
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Speaker 2: said to me when we were in Saint Louis, I
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Speaker 2: believe it was last week. Hey, I am embarrassed to
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Speaker 2: only have one home run. I kind of internally raised
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Speaker 2: my eyebrows. If that's possible, I thought, WHOA, what's he
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Speaker 2: talking about? This is Mason Winn. He's an unbelievable defender.
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Speaker 2: He can be a good offensive player too, without hitting
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Speaker 2: home runs. And yet the Cardinals feel he can be
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Speaker 2: both those guys, a guy who is a good offensive
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Speaker 2: player and a guy with some power. His rookie year,
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Speaker 2: he hits some home runs, so I understand his desire
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Speaker 2: to hit for more power, because hey, that is the
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Speaker 2: reward system in play right now. That is how players
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Speaker 2: get paid. But I would expect Mason win even if
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Speaker 2: he doesn't develop into a thirty home run guy is
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Speaker 2: going to be paid big because he is one of
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Speaker 2: the top defensive shortstops in the game, and also from
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Speaker 2: an offensive standpoint, he can be a guy and not
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Speaker 2: just a punch of judy here. He can be more
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Speaker 2: than that. But he doesn't have to be necessarily a
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Speaker 2: thirty homer guy.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean he is. He's a fun player
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Speaker 1: to watch, an entertaining player on a team that's contending too.
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Speaker 1: So you hope he finds a little more pop and
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Speaker 1: maybe the Cardinals continue this fun run with the tarps
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Speaker 1: off crowdhaul last summer long Ken enjoy the weekend. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll look forward to talking to you more next week
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Speaker 1: about the deal with Judge when you talk to the Yanks,
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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to you soon. Thanks guys, Thank you
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