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Episode 310: Enemy At The Gate (SG-A 5.20) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gates. The series finale of Stargates at Atlantis.
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  Speaker 1: Those words taste weird coming out of my mouth, Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even really think about that until you just
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  Speaker 2: said it. That's series finale, man, this is wow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if you're on our Patreon, you would
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  Speaker 1: have seen my immediate thoughts. It's mentioned, Maddie. But god again,
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  Speaker 1: the series finale of our second show that we've got.
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  Speaker 1: We've now covered fifteen seasons of Stargate television. You know
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  Speaker 1: who you listen, well, you know what we covered it
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  Speaker 1: the other week. Sometimes people don't actually know who they're
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  Speaker 1: listening to, but this as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when I feel like I feel like my voice
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  Speaker 2: is undeniable, people still seem to be like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know whether you're Mitchell Brendan sometimes and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, what good news for me, bad news for him?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it finished, and I just I threw up
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  Speaker 1: a little video sort of, you know, teasing my immediate thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: And Patriot he's seen that. Even I haven't seen that yet.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just had a weird thought,
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  Speaker 1: like again, I know I spoke about it a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago when when Brendan was here for Brainstorm
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  Speaker 1: and I talked about the fact that, and I think
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  Speaker 1: in the next couple of episodes, I just sort of
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  Speaker 1: I had this sort of growing sense of uneasiness because
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been in this territory before, like certainly on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, I've not gotten to a series finale that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of, you know, like i'd seen unending
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  Speaker 1: for SG one fifteen years earlier than recording it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't all.
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  Speaker 2: The other finales that they kind of ended the show on,
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  Speaker 2: but then it would keep getting out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So this one, this one was really
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  Speaker 1: weird for me. And because in the last four or
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  Speaker 1: five weeks worth of episodes, I'm heading into this and
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  Speaker 1: I know that the show got canceled and they found
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  Speaker 1: out well, as Giro put it, he knew about or
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: before he told the cast, but you know, were they
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  Speaker 1: able to rectify the final scripts or the final script
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  Speaker 1: for this episode to reflect that it was a series
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  Speaker 1: finale and not a season finale. And then the fact
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't get a movie. They were hoping to
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  Speaker 1: get a movie, but wasn't going to be like SG one,
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  Speaker 1: where well, we have wrapped things up, but we've certainly
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  Speaker 1: left it open enough that if we want to come
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  Speaker 1: back and tell more are story and a telemovie. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just I was getting uneasy about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we're heading into the final of something, and
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  Speaker 1: for me, this is this is very much a first
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  Speaker 1: for the podcast. So yeah, interesting times and what a
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  Speaker 1: time to do it. Christmas Christmas twenty twenty five. If
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to this in delay, that's when we're releasing
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  Speaker 1: this one. So Merry Christmas, Maddie, and you know, happy holidays, yes,
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  Speaker 1: happy old days. Oh you guess for depending on what
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  Speaker 1: you like saying at this time of year. If you
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  Speaker 1: like saying anything, I don't like saying anything. Okay, are
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  Speaker 1: sure you're not brand it with that black heart?
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  Speaker 3: I skip the whole. I say happy Year. That's about it.
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  Speaker 3: A great yeah, hope, hope you have a great year.
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  Speaker 1: By this By this point, you're just like this year
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  Speaker 1: and just look forward to next year. You know, enough
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  Speaker 1: for you with your your adult your adults are Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry, nor your child Jesus. Jesus is
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  Speaker 1: adult Santa. Yes, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah sure right, Oh
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  Speaker 1: the final synopsis for Stargate at Atlantis.
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  Speaker 2: I just realized, well, did we do Penultimate last week?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember whether we got your favorite Penultmanent in there.
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  Speaker 1: I can't either, and typically would.
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  Speaker 2: We would be able to say right now what I
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  Speaker 2: thought were be able to get for you is this
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  Speaker 2: is the synopsis for the finale of the Penultont series.
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  Speaker 3: But that's not even true anymore, not anymore, not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, if we did this episode,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been true. But no, no, sir. Another
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  Speaker 1: prology is about last week, we had to swap studios
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  Speaker 1: halfway through the record, and I said there would be
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  Speaker 1: a slight change in audio. I just thought because we're
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  Speaker 1: using different microphones, not that the microphones in the other
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  Speaker 1: studio are shit. So just know that what you heard
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  Speaker 1: was actually cleaned and tidied up by my beautiful audio
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  Speaker 1: producer friend that does not get paid to do any
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  Speaker 1: sort of work on our podcast, but I just asked
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  Speaker 1: him to do me a favor here and there. So
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  Speaker 1: what you heard, even though it still sounded a little
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  Speaker 1: bit off, that's so much better than than what it
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  Speaker 1: was when.
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  Speaker 3: It was raw. Fine, It's ony Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I know right. If anything, it kind of fits kind
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  Speaker 1: of like ghost the Machine, the fact that that was
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  Speaker 1: a lost episode, got lost in the machine sweping when
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  Speaker 1: they start listening to me, swiping because I'm always right.
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  Speaker 1: Please feel all right, Please feel good about this one
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  Speaker 1: because I want to. I want to. I want to
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  Speaker 1: be good about this one. Episode twenty of C and
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  Speaker 1: five Atlantis rushes to destroy and advanced Wraith high ships,
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  Speaker 1: very advanced at Wraith Hive ship before it presents a
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  Speaker 1: threat to Earth. What do you think? What? What do
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  Speaker 1: you think? Of course we get the short one for
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  Speaker 1: the final episode. That's just great. Well I teased, did
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  Speaker 1: I say it on the on the pod or is
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  Speaker 1: it off Mike? A couple of episodes ago that okay,
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  Speaker 1: Look like I said at the top of this, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's coming on Avenue, what was coming with this?
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  Speaker 1: I've managed to escape this for fifteen sixteen years not
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  Speaker 1: knowing what. So the beginning of nine, right, this episode,
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  Speaker 1: beating of.
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  Speaker 2: Eight beginning what oh no, I've written that down wrong.
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  Speaker 2: The beginning of two thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nine, yeah, so we're nearly we're nearly at a
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  Speaker 1: seventeen year Holy shit, We're nearly at a seventeen year
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  Speaker 1: mark since this episode came out. Heading into the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the only episode of Stargate Atlantis that I had ever
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  Speaker 1: seen was The Pilots, and I watched that the first
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  Speaker 1: day that it came out on DVD. Lincoln and I
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  Speaker 1: went down to our local JB High Five, but the
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  Speaker 1: box set came back. Watched the Pilot, absolutely loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln pushed on with it. I couldn't for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: and then just never did. And then this announcement comes
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  Speaker 1: that Stargate is coming back in some form. Great. We
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  Speaker 1: did a podcast on it. We speculated about what it
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  Speaker 1: could be, what we might want from it, even though
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  Speaker 1: we get very little information obviously online our own discord
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  Speaker 1: Going Crazy, or the online discord on Twitter and threads
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: and everything else in between Going Crazy as well. Stargate
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  Speaker 1: fans rejoice, we're finally getting it back. But I saw
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  Speaker 1: and I cannot remember whether it was a tweet or
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: it was a thread or something on truth Social, because
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  Speaker 1: obviously and it started off and it was like a
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  Speaker 1: little preview. I must have it must have been like
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  Speaker 1: a notification on my homepage and my phone, and I
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  Speaker 1: must have just seen the top of it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: clicked on it because with the new announcement of Stargate
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and it seemed, oh, I want to
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  Speaker 1: see what they have to say. And it was one
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  Speaker 1: of those things where your eyes betray you because they
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  Speaker 1: start looking at things that you know you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to look at. And I've looked down to see it
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  Speaker 1: was like a little gift essentially, and then I've I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of darting between that and the text before I
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  Speaker 1: knew what I was looking at. And then once I
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  Speaker 1: realized what I was reading, it was far too late
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  Speaker 1: and it said, well, obviously with Atlantis now in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh you Saliba.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Seventeen years ago this episode came out and I never
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  Speaker 1: knew a thing about it. But then I knew a
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  Speaker 1: thing about this entire series beyond the first episode. I
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  Speaker 1: knew that Carter was in it at some point, and
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  Speaker 1: that was king it.
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  Speaker 2: You have a brother who lives and breathe this show,
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  Speaker 2: who never once in seventeen you accidentally mentioned something nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You and Brendan for all the things that you say
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  Speaker 1: you didn't want to spoil, but you did nothing big.
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  Speaker 1: You never spoiled anything big, Neither of you hinted, none
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  Speaker 1: of you laughed. All the stuff that you have audio
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  Speaker 1: a little big asterix on it a point that holy hell, man,
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  Speaker 1: I went so so so long, and I was within
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  Speaker 1: weeks of watching this episode and I read Atlantis is
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  Speaker 1: now in San Francisco. And that's not something that you
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  Speaker 1: can unread or unsee or unhear. Man like, yeah, because it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not even like after a visit to San Francisco or
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  Speaker 2: something where you're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, you know, by the end it'll be back
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  Speaker 3: to normal.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: So I went in probably two weeks after reading that,
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  Speaker 1: I watched this episode and I thought, okay, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't undo that.
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  Speaker 2: Where they say the genie is out of the bottle,
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  Speaker 2: it absolutely is, well technically go back in the bottle.
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  Speaker 2: So I always feel like there's been a flawed analogy.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, the toothpaste is out of the tube. You
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  Speaker 2: can't get the toothpaste back of the tube.
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  Speaker 1: Very true. You can try, no, but that's more like
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  Speaker 1: with our little thing where you can squeeze the tube
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  Speaker 1: and it's you know, like vacuum. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: and just just try and enjoy it anyway, just try
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  Speaker 1: and enjoy it. And you know what I fucking did.
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  Speaker 1: This is a cool episode. It just gets going. And yeah,
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: off the back of Vegas last week, which you had
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  Speaker 1: said in that podcast, Oh this whole thing, Yeah, it's
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: an alternate universe. It comes into play for like a
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  Speaker 1: line of dialogue. That's all that this served was then
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: having a bit of fun, sure, and the writing and
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: the directing and the whole production, but the actual like
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: effects of this episode and this story, this narrative doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really come into play like they suggest that it could.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get here it's like, oh, yeah, we
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: just picked up this thing just yeah, I don't nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe from another reality. Okay, let's see. Oh well that's
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  Speaker 1: it on the wraith Ive ship is heading towards Earth,
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it doesn't really matter what
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: happened last week because we've just got to fix it now.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: It's that we're dealing with the consequence. And yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: just I don't know, it's fine. Like obviously, the threat
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  Speaker 1: of them coming to Earth, it's like that's nothing new.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen that with the with the Gold before. We've
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  Speaker 1: been very very very familiar with the idea of like
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  Speaker 1: them or the area and people big bads trying to
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  Speaker 1: find Earth and just take over because of our sheer
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: numbers into the billions and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But there was still something kind of fresh about it
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  Speaker 1: being the Wraith and I don't and just again the
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  Speaker 1: tod of it all sort of coming back into it
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  Speaker 1: and picking up on those threads in the other week
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  Speaker 1: where he's like, I won't forget this and so we're
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: going to bring him back into the fold, just in
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  Speaker 1: a narrative point. But yeah, no, it was. It was fun.
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. And then yeah, the way that
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  Speaker 1: it ends, it didn't. Again, there was a lot to
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  Speaker 1: running through my head in those final minutes where Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to it didn't even I knew that we
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  Speaker 1: were going to sand Fran but when they were going
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  Speaker 1: to land, it's like, oh, no, they're not. This is
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  Speaker 1: going to land somewhere randomly in the ocean. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden when they actually look out the
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  Speaker 1: back deck and you can see the Golden Gate and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, So the CGI kind of let
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  Speaker 1: down before because it looked like we were just literally
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: going to be in the middle of Pacific. There was
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: no land anywhere, and we were a couple of hundred
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  Speaker 1: feet off the water, and then we're there. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: holy shit, we can't undo this. Now we're not just
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: like out there and like a random cruise liner has
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  Speaker 1: went past and found us. We're in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco Bay. We wouldn't even there be too. I
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  Speaker 1: think we were facing west, so yes, because it looked
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: like it was almost sunset sort of so where we were.
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  Speaker 3: So they weren't inside the bay.
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  Speaker 2: That was something they spoke about in the audio commentary
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  Speaker 2: because they tossed up.
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  Speaker 3: Originally it was going to be the.
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  Speaker 2: Statue of Liberty, right, and then Paul was in the
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  Speaker 2: Paul Mully was in the audio commentary without Joe, which
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  Speaker 2: was weird that he said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the original idea was they talked about having it Atlantis,
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  Speaker 2: being parked aside and looking out onto the Statue of
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  Speaker 2: Liberty because they're like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what, what big iconic.
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  Speaker 2: Iconic landmarks can you look at from from the ocean,
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  Speaker 2: And then when they sort of looked closer, they went, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: you can't be looking at the Statue of Liberty from
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  Speaker 2: being out in the ocean because it's too tight, like
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  Speaker 2: there's just there's not enough room. They would have had
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: to have, you know, cut everything off. So they went, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Golden Gate Bridge. But yeah, they were specific like saying like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they weren't inside the bay. They were still out in
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  Speaker 2: the ocean, right looking west, looking west at the Golden
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  Speaker 2: gate Bridge.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry looking east, Yeah, looking we're just kind of looking
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  Speaker 1: towards this because I'm like, yeah, that proximity as if
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  Speaker 1: I know, but I was there a couple of years agogos,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a travel passport, but I'm like, that's basically where
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  Speaker 1: Alcatraz is. If they were looking west, yes, if that
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  Speaker 1: were inside the bay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, the little line of dialogue where they
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  Speaker 2: say there's like an exclusion zone like the Navy seven.
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  Speaker 1: But it was kind of cool, which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: But they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Land there obviously because people would have seen, so like
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta's landed somewhere in the middle of the ocean. And
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  Speaker 2: that was the other thing I was saying is that
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  Speaker 2: was originally going to be the final shot, but then
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  Speaker 2: they realized, well, if you just have Atlanta City on
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  Speaker 2: the ocean and there's no landmarks, around it, then it
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  Speaker 2: just looks different there on the normal planet. So they
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: had to put it, you know, somewhere. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: they ended up being that it's outside in the exclusionary zones.
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  Speaker 2: Was something moved there at a certain point after they'd
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  Speaker 2: landed somewhere in the middle of the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the oh we're under cloak. No one's looking.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay. So theoretically, like, had that movie
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  Speaker 1: had like the idea that, okay, that this fan on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter or threads or whatever saying yeah, well Atlantis is
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: in sand friend, I'm like, well, not necessarily, like, if
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to pick it up in real time, it's
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: been nearly two decades since this happened, they would have
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: just taken off again.
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  Speaker 3: Like they would have been there a weak max yeah
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  Speaker 3: and gone.
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  Speaker 2: According to the audio commentary Pulse, this was basically as
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: much as I gave shit to Martin Guiro a couple
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and because that's the only time I've
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: ever done it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the one hundredth episode.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: This is you know, if you look at Rising as
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: being a part one, part two, two episode thing, this
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  Speaker 2: is one hundredth episode. So this script was largely unchanged
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: from what it was going to be had the show
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: not been canceled. Okay, so it was already written to
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: be all this stuff as the one hundredth episode, as
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: the big.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: One hundred episode, so had SG one did and it
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: was actually Vegas because it was like, let's be sane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's what happened with Scrubs.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: When Scrubs got canceled the first time, or it got
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: it got a short season because of the like the
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: two thousand and seven writers struck whatever, so then it
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: got like a thirteen episode season and the final I
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: don't know how much of Scrubs you've watched, but the
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: final episode was like a fairy tale episode where like
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: they were telling a story overall.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Final episode originally.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Was going to be so it wasn't the last episode
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: filmed for that season, but then when they thought it
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: might be the se is finale, they put it into
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: the last spot, and a lot of the fandom, including myself,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, ah, that's kind of a shit way
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: to end it. And then it came back for like
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: season eight, season nine or like, so it was fine,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: but had that been the final episode, I think it
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  Speaker 2: would have really tarnished what that show real really was.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: So I note only because it's a couple of weeks
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: away in real time. Are you excited for the revival? Yeah? Absolutely,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I've seen there's got a lot of the old hands
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: back on, right, like most.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: All of them.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I'm very interested to see how that goes.
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  Speaker 2: I saw like the little clip of it, and I
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: was like, holy crap, most of these people haven't aged
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: since the show finished.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: It was pretty good.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very I'm very hopeful to see that when
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: it comes back.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like that's what pisses me off more about
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: reading what I read is that what he said wasn't
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: even true, Like the idea of Atlanda is still being
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: in San France, Like no, it's not like that's where
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: we left it. But like, had the movie have come
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: out a year later in real time, like the release
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: date came out, you know, it was a year later
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: than this finale, we could have just had them back
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: on that planet in the Pegasus Alexy yeah, and not
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: even had to explain how they got back. It's like, yeah, fine, yeah,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: rehabard blah blah blah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: And if you think about it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: The reason this show had the final episode be their
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: one hundredth episode is because they're only doing twenty episodes
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a season, whereas SG one was doing twenty two whatever
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it was. So if you remember, the one hundredth episode
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: was like midway through season five anything like that. So
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: had this episode fallen on that same kind of schedule,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I one hundred percent believe that the next episode would
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: have picked up of them back on their planet in Atlanta,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean it would have just been like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think I think whoever you know ruined
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: that for you was obvious one of those people that's like,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: oh well, unless it's explicitly stated, then it didn't happen.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: But you have to factor in, like there's so many
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: things that we say happen in every episode happen off
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: screen where somebody gets caught up on something or you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: they're just they're informed about it off screen. You just
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: have to you have to roll with that. So, yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: there's no way Atlantis would have stayed because they haven't solved.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: The Pegasus issue.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Like by the end of this episode, yes, they stop
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that one Raith hive, but the Wraith are still you know,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: destroying the Pegasus galaxy. Yeah, there's no way we would
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: just go, oh, well, we're here now, so we just
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: we'll just we'll just keep it here and look after
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: our own. Like there's no way Taylor would have Taylor's
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: people are still back in Pegasus. They don't explicitly state it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if Canan and uh, what's her baby's.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Name, torron Torn that's it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether they were on Atlantis with the Athosion.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they said to her and to Ronan like, hey,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: we're like we're heading to a different galaxy now, Like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you guys don't have to come right, you can stay
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: because this is not your fight, And they're like, well,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like any other fight, Yeah, we're coming. And I'm like, yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: cool for you, bro, because you're like a lone wolf.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: She's Ethosion married. I guess probably she's at least part
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of that up. She's got a kid. I'm assuming he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: got the kids.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: She was always a leader of the people.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, like, she probably can't make that decision so easily.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And if anything, that goes more to the idea of like, well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that's just what would happen in a season finale, because
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we know that she's going to come back in season six,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and she'd be back with her family. The idea of like, well,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: we tried our best in the Pegasus Galaxy and now
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: we're just here on Earth. It's like, what about these
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: other people? I mean, you can just stick them on
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the dedaliss and fine.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, because technically as well, like with Atlantis here, like
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: in the Milky Way Galaxy, there's technically i think no
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: way for us to gate to anywhere in the Pegasus
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Galaxy because I'm assuming it's a two way thing, where
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: with the with the eight chevron address you can only
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: because they talk about the controlled crystal in Atlantis US
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: being the only ones being able to dial yeah, yeah,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and I'm assuming it's the other way around. Like I
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: don't think even with a zz PM attached, I don't
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: think Stargate Command could just dial up any stargate in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the Pegasus Galaxy.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: No, So I like the idea that it's as well,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: where you know, in Christmas time, that if there was
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a bit of a home effect, that like there was
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: some team of Theirs out on mission that accounted for
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: they all of a sudden can't dial back to Atlantas
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because Atlantis isn't there. But they you know again that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the planet they're on, they can get in a ship,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: they get there for some read whatever. They get back
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to that planet and they're just looking around this ocean, going,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: there's nothing in it.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: What's the line? My whole family disappeared.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I made my expedition disappear.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And they're just like, that should have been Kavanaugh. That
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: should have been Cavanaugh. That's what he should have been doing.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, excited to make everybody.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the all hands on deck here where he just
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: pops up there like what are you doing here? It's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like I'm doing this and I'm like, yeah, I guess
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if it's a series finale, we better bring back all
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of our old favorites.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Now, another thing that that stuck out to me only
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because it's like it was a big thing in SG one.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: It was a big build up in SG one. It
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was a massive season fin season seven finale of what
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: we find. Obviously that then led to become Atlantis itself.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: So I guess literally the episode called Lost City, Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: It's kind of poetic in a way, but the idea
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of like what we found in the in Antarctica and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: with the with the drones and the chair and shit
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: like the like the sort of like Last Defense of Earth,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that the of that that ancient technology that we have
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: used on occasion, and then we get this where it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: kind of just off screen. They're like, oh, yeah, we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: moved that, don't worry about it. It's like, okay, cool,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we're using it. No, I just got destroyed, And I'm like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: are you fucking joke? Like it's kind of like, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: giving your neighbor your toy as a kid, and then
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: without knowing he just like he doesn't even bring you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: back the broken pieces. He's like, oh that, No, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: broke it and I just chucked it out it out
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You're like what sorry?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: What?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Like That's what it felt like to me watching, Like
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not only a Stargate fan
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: because I love the Antarctica, you know, the chair and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the drones and the ancient technology blah blah blah, but
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it felt like that was such a special thing for
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the SG one series, and then in Here Atlanta it's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: just an offhand thing in their finale that oh yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: we're using it, but on the rath of just destroyed.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It's gone now we can't use that. We've got to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: think of something else.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's at
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: least two other episodes, like alternate reality episodes where those
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: alternate realities make the mistake of moving the chair to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Area fifty one. I'm pretty sure the one where it
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was like President Landry and when Carter got you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: flicked over. I'm pretty sure that universe got screwed over
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: because they moved the chair to area for every one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And I feel like there was another episode somewhere, like
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: an alternate universe episode where maybe even continuum, where like
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the chair got moved to Area fifty one and then
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: it was destroyed. So it was a dumb move, Like
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they would have moved it there,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: But I also don't understand the logistics of how much
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: we know about it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I wish we knew more.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Obviously in Rising, there's the base there now at mc
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: murdough and a like kind of stuff, you know, where
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: we where we pick up with all these all these
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: characters at the start of Rising. Yeah, and they're studying
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: things and all that kind of stuff. But it's like, okay,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: so if the chair was moved weird. What about is
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: there just a big warehouse in Antarctica filled with drones
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: or did they have to move that as well? Like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: is it Wi Fi? Does it need some kind of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: connect Like I want to know more about Like does
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that mean Earth doesn't have Like I understand, we don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: have the chair anymore, so we can't control the drones.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But do the drones still exist? And could they fit
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: those drones? Could they give all those drones to Atlantis?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And Atlantis now has you know, a top up of drones?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I mean you got to think that they've got the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: a way to get a wholes of them and harvest
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: them or something. Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and there's a chair in Atlantis, so they're able
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to fire drones. So is it is it a way
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of them just getting a top up of weapons? I mean,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you know, Brendan spoke about it before, is like, it
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense that Atlantis doesn't have some kind
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of facility.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: In the city that makes droves.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't found the room yet.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so there's a lot of questions surrounding that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe that's something they'll pick up in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in the new series, Like yeah, Earth doesn't have the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: chair anymore, and it is a blink and you'll miss
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: it kind of kind of situation. But yeah, is it
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: also going to be a situation where they'll they'll go
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to Proclus Taro Nass and rip that chair out and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: go and put it in.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Back on Earth. When they have a gate that blows up,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they just go and steal the gate and it's it's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: all okay. Well, so that was like a big thing
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: for for SG one here though, something is very big
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: for SGA that I honestly for a second believe that
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: they were doing, and that was killing Ronan.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: You know, going back and watching it now, I wish
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: they did. I kind of wish they did.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And see in that like because you know, like you'll
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: sit there and watch a think the movies the other
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: day with my boys and my youngest he's eight, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: he turns to it one says, yes, I don't think
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the person's really dead because the main character doesn't die
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes they do, buddy, and he's like, oh, and it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: like kind of broke his heart a little bit, even
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: though quite clearly the main character in front wasn't dying
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and didn't end up dying, but he was I think
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: at eight, he thinks he's got it all figured out.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's why we need more deaths in TV,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and you need the main character to hit the demise.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, imagine, now this is a spoiler for Toy
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Story three from hasn't seen it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Imagine if the end the Toy Story three that actually
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: will ended up in.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I only spoke about it the other week. I think
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: maybe all the kids, and I said, I honestly thought
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that they were going to do which doesn't make you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: watch it now, and I was like, of course they
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: are never going to do that. But watching that as
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: someone who grew I was you and I were in
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that nice like generation with regard to the Toy Story
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we were Andy, right, so we're like ten ish or so,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: depending on where it was it ninety five, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I was nine, your ten, Like, we're roughly Andy's age,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and they were moving in real time. We get to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: twenty or twenty ninety the ten when Number three come
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: out and he's getting ready to go off to college
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and like he's late teens, early twenties, and it's like, yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was. Early twenties, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you're in the early twenties as well, and we're kind
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of in that space. We've got toys and figurines at home,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and we probably played with more than what Andy stores
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: at that point in his story. Buch a different conversation.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I literally just bought some bark Mass from Ass Toys.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: They arrived, so.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And like, I honestly watching that was like, oh shit,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: they're going to do this, And what a beautiful ending
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that they all get to go out together.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I cried when they're all like reaching for each other
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and holding each other's hands.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yep. And then now it's like they're going to release
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: number five in six months time. You're like, oh, yeah,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: well of course they would never going to kill them.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I saw a TikTok where some evil, evil
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: children probably I guess our age did to their parents
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: is they did a little edit so because there's a
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: moment there where it fades to black, they they intercut
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: that with the end credits, so they they're watching with
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: like their sixty year old mother and.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: She thought that's how it ended.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Brilliant.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, that is so devious.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I hope that's our own head canon for like ages.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, toy story five.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: It's actually it takes place between two and three.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It's a whole it's a whole Tokyo drift scenario.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Don't think about it too hard.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And you know, you watch, especially in TV, you watch
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a death of a character or a fake at death,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and you don't feel anything because it's well, that's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: how a character goes okay, like you know, hey, awful things.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Let's make it someone else that we know driving today,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they are in a car accident. They're not having a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: char accent. After they speak to their spouse telling them
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: how how much they love them and their kids, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: by like finally like getting approval and something for their house.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: They're family going to be looked after, or they've just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: after they've won the lottery or something, or they've achieved
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a certain thing. We don't get that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: In real life, like those movie moments where they're like, Oh,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm coming home right now, babe, I'm on my way.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I've got some great news for you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And just so you know, I'm I'm not angry at you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I was never angry. How could I ever? I love
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you so much and I can't wait to spend the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: rest of my other bang Like, we don't get those
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in real life very very very very rarely, but in TV,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: especially what you finish and movies we get we get
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: far more of them there, but especially in TV because
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: there's more episodes to work with, and they've got such
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a restricted duration of episodes or episode length rather, that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you can kind of work out when one is going
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to be real and when it's not based on when
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in the season it falls, or at what point of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the episode that it falls. Also when someone seemingly it
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: gets shot and they just like, oh, there's their body
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and they move on, You're like, well, no, that's not
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: how a main character, or even someone like Ronan who
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: is not the main character but one of the core
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: four or something. That's not how their story in this
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: show ends. But there was enough of it in this
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that I thought, well, you know what it is. Ronan.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They've given him up until maybe fifteen minutes ago in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the series finale. He he's made a bit of a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: sacrifice play for one of the main characters that has
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: been there since the original the very first episode, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they sort of still lingered on him on the ground
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: as he was fading away, and I'm like, holy shit,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: no that this they are actually killing him. And then
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: it plays in my head being in this room with
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you guys where I've speculated, I'm like, oh, if Stogo
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it overcomes back, like imagine if they just threw all
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: their money or Jose Moore and said, can you come
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: back and do like a cameo episode or a cameo
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: appearance or something, and you guys like that's nice, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: like it didn't mean anything to me at the time,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: because I thought you're trying to like savor you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: not so much spoilers for deaths or anything more so
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: just narrative or just like, let's not talk about that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: That's not the point of what we're talking about in
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this episode. And then in those like again mere minute
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it was between that the fake out and then him
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: essentially being brought back to life, I'm like, holy shit,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Maddie and Brennan had done it again. They're hidden the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: fact that this guy who at the time was like, yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: he's recognizable, but.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I finally perfect him my poker face.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Damn man, this episode just threw me around.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: What I thought was interesting is they'd almost kind of
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: set it up in the end of last season when
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: when Hologram Rodney was like telling all the song stories
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: of everybody and he kind of went out this way.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He was tired at the time, but he kind of
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: went out that way doing the sacrifice place.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So think about that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like I almost, yeah, I almost do
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: kind of wish they had done it, But then I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: think they would have needed a two parts to do
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: it because how quickly everything wraps up where they all
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: just kind of walk out onto the balcony at the end,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of that happy ending. It's like we
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to really have that without the steeing of.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Ronan being there.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: However, I will say to anybody that hasn't watched the
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Buffy finale yet, which again is another show that's coming
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: back that they've just been filming, there is a beloved
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: character who not one of the original Scoobies, someone who
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: was brought in at a later date, stuck around for
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a long, long, long long time, has a very brutal,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: unceremonious death in the final episode, and there is not
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of time that is spent on it, just
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: because of the tone of the episode and the you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the futility of life and death and all that kind
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and the I feel like it was specifically
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: done to yeah not get that TV moment. Yeah, it
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: was just the randomness and the the unimportance of death.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: How you know that a person on the world is
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: dying right now, and another one right now, and another
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: one right now, Like there's nothing sort of special about it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe maybe two thousand.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And nine me would have been crying into my pillow
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and being like, it's not fair.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: It's not fair. I can't believe they did that. But
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Me is like, well, yeah, like, I know, you guys
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: have laughed at the you know, me and my love
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: for twenty four but like, you know, Keith Sutherland as
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Jack Bauer was the guy for that entire series. They
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: had like a little revival season that was about someone different.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But I remember, I don't know how many they made.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: They made eight, so I don't know understand. Okay, so
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he got twenty four to twenty four episodes whatever, each
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and hour it's the whole day. And then for season
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: nine they did twelve episodes. Cool, it's still told in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: real time, so it's still technically twenty four, but I'm like, well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: why not give us whatever is obviously weird? Maybe I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: don't I don't think that there was like a year's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: break and it was like, all right, we'll give you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: one more. But half the time.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it was a money theme.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what the story was, but okay, even
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so for the first eight seasons, and I can't remember
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: at what point, And Keifer Sutherland got interviewed and he said,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I can't hope they do it some stage. Okay, probably
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: sounds fun to an interviewer. He's like an executive producer.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: He wants to get paid, so he's going to want
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to stick around as the lead actor as well for
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: those residuals. But he said, I think the show at
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: some stage should kill my character, just to prove to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the audience that at any stage, some one can die,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: like anybody can die. And that I remember the season
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: four pilot, you can't really call it a pilot. The season
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: four premiere episode, and a character that was pretty main
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: for the first three seasons gets assassinated in the first
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know three minutes of the show. Is that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: his daughter, No, no, she she was she was a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: round of the back rend but they had an a
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: strange relationships. They could sort of bring her back in
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: an hour whenever she wanted to.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: That's the only actor that I know because she went
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: on and did that show Happy Endings.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Oh she and that Yeah, yeah right at La.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, And obviously as men of our generation, we all
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: remember the girl next door.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yes we do.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was at a pivotal time in our upbringings.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: So it was the premier episode of season two or
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: twenty four when she's walking around and we'll talk about
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it on my twenty four and twenty four podcasts Suddenly.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You're getting into my house. They can see on twenty
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: four sound a little more interesting areas.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, so like, yeah, I just think that, you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it's I don't want to see more of you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: favorite people die, Like I would have hated to have
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: seen Jack O'Neill die at some point, but well, and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it's stick yeah a couple of sure, but like even
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: when they brought him back for Atlantis, and I'm like,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they're not going to kill him off in Atlantis, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: it would have been a very well deserved death, Like
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: he would have went out like a fucking hero.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: What if that's the opening scene of the new show,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the death of Jack O'Neill.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's like the impetus of something.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I hope they don't do some like Okay,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Richard and Anderson is still kicking. He's just an executive producer.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But it starts off and it's like at his funeral
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: or something or a couple of episodes in and they
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: just decide what to what to do with him there.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But I mean, speaking of real world deaths, it was
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: written into this episode obviously the scene with mentioning General Hammond, Yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: which I think was perfect in the way that I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: mean a tapping came back to this episode.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Very cool.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Well, they owed that anyway, because like she got the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: she got the Weir and the Ford contract contract where
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: she had to do she finished best season and then
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: was contracted PLAD to do four episodes or whatever, so
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: she did those at the start of the season, but
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: she still had one left, so and they obviously had
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: planned to bring her back for the hundred ths regardless.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But I think the fact that it was Carter speaking
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: about General Hammond, given that she's the only one that
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: really where was Landry is the off world no, he
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: was like he was in Washington dealing with home world security.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I think something like that.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was just in command while he was
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: off coordinating with all that kind of stuff.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I kind of like that because for someone like Carter,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, as a viewer, you trust her, yes,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: like with every fabric of your being. And so when
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: she's sitting there going, oh, I've got to make the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: decisions here, and you're looking at the stress and the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: thoughts that are running through a million mile an hour
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in her head, and you're like, well, regardless what happens, man,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I trust it, you're going to make the right call here,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: because you always have. But I think that added to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the to the tension of the episode. The stakes already
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: pretty high, but throwing in Carter and showing that she
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: was under pressured, I'm like, oh, yeah, this is actually
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: really It's not like, oh, Atlantis, there've always been a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: little bit sort of you know, over their head, you know, yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: when you've got nothing against weird. But she's not a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: military commander or anything, so she had to make negotiating yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: which she has had to make, have been forced to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: make military decisions and things like that, or Wolsey, who's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: not a military person. He's a politics gun, you know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And also weird at the time, very very early on,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like still very green because Carter's been doing this for
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: thirteen years at this point, you know what I mean.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So we are our trust in Carter is implicit.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So when she's stressed, you're like, oh, okay, no, this
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: is a stress situation.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So now I love the fact that she was back.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: And then I don't know if you realize, but it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: when they were talking about the new Daedalist class ship,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the Phoenix, and how it had been renamed the George Hammond. Again,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: if we go back to the season finale of season
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: four when Holographic Rodney was telling everybody's stories, when Carter
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: went out in the Sacrifice playing her Daedalist class that
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: was her in command of the US Phoenix Roight. So
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because she does say in this episode
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: that's her next appointment is she's going to get command
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of her own Daedalus class ship. So I don't know
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: if that if she gets the George Hammond or not.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine that, like like Colonel Carter commanding the
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: George Hammond.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing stargate returning, and she is, and I'll get her.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: That's one for this. She's the Jane Way of her
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: own ship, and it's the Hammond and it's Carter. And
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: we already love Carter. You love.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: That's a demotion.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: That's a demotion if she was if she was getting that,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: she was getting that in two thousand and nine, mate,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: everyone's saying she should be the general of the SGC.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely told me to get to twenty twenty five.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but like she might like being out
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: there in space traveling around doing stuff.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know, you know, you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: maybe I love me some Carter, I do. She's she's gonna.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to give it to myself, but now
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I'll just now I'll give it to you. How dare
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you speak ill of Carter? Not that you did?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: You just no, no, no, she's you know, yeah, the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: same way I would say, I would say valaml Duran
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: is no Eron Swton, you know what I mean? And
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that's usually the same the same actress, you know what
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I mean? So Red Red Redsdakov from Orange is the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: New Black's Yeah, same actress, but whatever, whatever her name
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: is from Sanctuary.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: She was doc doctor magnuson Sanctuary.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Magnus, Sanctuary is.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Uh not to continue on with the st chat. But
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: even this morning, my you know, knowing that I was
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: coming and do this, my kid said, oh, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: when did you first start watching Stargate? Actually? What my boys?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: He first he said star Trek and I saw a
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Stargate he said, oh yeah yeah. And then then they
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: asked about Star Trek and I said, your kids have
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: asked about Star Trek. It was more just hag me
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in coach and I said, They said, how much of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that have you seen? I said, I mate, like nothing,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I've seen nothing of of Star Trek. Really, you see
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the JJ films, you haven't seen any three films and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: nine episodes of Discovery.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you've not seen you see you've seen some
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: weird sci fi ye, but you've never.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Seen anything with a Star Trek paint chob on it. Yes,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: on the.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Daedalus Class ships. There is a line in here. Well.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: First of all, I do love the moment where we
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: got to see Colonel Ellis get his ass kicked, because
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I still hate that guy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: And I know, floating in space frozen stiff we're smiled.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: She smiled. She absolutely had a little grin tremor through
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the cosmos. Yeah, in the force.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we get a line in this episode where
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the Odyssey is unavailable and it's on some top secret mission.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: That you will get resolution to in stargeting.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: No.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: When I heard whatever line of dialogue and it in
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the grand scheme of this episode, I'm like, that doesn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: mean much, but there was just something about it. I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: can't even remember the exact word, but as it was spoken,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I feel like that's universe related.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So okay, good, I'm gonna have to probably go back.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I'd like to go back and just rewatch this anyway
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: without the pressure of like what am we going to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: talk about the podcast, just and also try and get
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: through and just enjoy this without knowing about the fact
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: of where the Big City ends up. Boody. Hell, I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: still I'm not even that I'm honestly, you know what,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not that pissed about it, because I still enjoyed
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the episode. Yeah. If I would have come out of
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: this and went, oh it all hinged on the fact
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: of this like reveal at the end, I would have
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: been filthy, but no, it was just a good episode
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: any yah, just.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That little just that little last shot, last enjoyable shot.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I do think it was weird though, that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: The last line I believe was like I'm about to say,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Bacado was Wolsey saying oh roun and welcome to Earth.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: So many times, bunch of times, a bunch of times, Like.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: If you want those people that like you want to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: get Earth, He's I think I've done. I think I've
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: seen it. You know, Do you want to go and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: have a look around? He's like, no, no, well there's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a famous prison over there. He's like, I don't give
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a shit.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, the last time I was here it
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: was John's father's funeral and there was an awesome buffet spread.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Where can I get a buff ace?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Show me the food?
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Show me where can get like the biggest beer I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: can find? There's a strip club nearby that probably sounds
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: appealing as well. I guess you know this bridge, it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: called the Gold It's actually not gold though, like we
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: just call it that, but it's actually like.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: This weird sort of and there's no gate attached.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: To it, and it's like you want to see that,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, do you want to ride a bike
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: across it?
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: It's like that's the thing, like anywhere you go, like
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: here where were living? I love Brisbane. I love Brisbane.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: People come here and go what should we don't know?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: M Well, a lot of places. I tell him to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: go outside of Brisbane because I'm like, well that's what
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I like going. You know where. There's probably landmarks here
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that they advertised about Brisbane. I'm like, yeah that, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: see that all the time. Someone in Sandfran, which I
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: know they hate the terminology Sandfralogy, Yeah, yeah, you got to.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I think I think they like s f You can't say,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: you can't call it Frisco and you can't.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Call it hate Frisco Frisco.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we said Sandfran when we're there, and they're like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: oh no, you got to call it San Francisco.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: It's like some people here call it bris Vegas and we're
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: like yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Even Brizzy Brisy on our radio, so she'd be like, hey,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: what's going on, Brisy, and like no one says that. Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I hate you know what I say now when I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: on air, well, iasionally say Brisy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Oh I can hate myself, you know, I'd be slapping
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: myself when the La Canus was here earlier this year. Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I found myself having to take them outside of Brisbane.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So it's like I took them up to the Steve
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Irwin Zoo. I do them to the Gold Coaster, Movie
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: World and Dreamwall and all those kind of things. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: there was one day where I forget what we were doing,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: but we just walked along South Bank and they were amazed,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Like when they got to that creepy dodgy beach thing,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the artificial official beach that we have here.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: They lost their king's over that. They were like, this
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: is the coolest thing other.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm fair if anyone hasn't been to Brisbane, this
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: is mainly for you. If you have and you're familiar
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: with it, and I'm sorry, but like on a on
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a really nice day, which to be fair, in Brisian Brisbane,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I said Brisbane. It sounds like I said, Brisban. In Brisbane,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: we have more good days than we have.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you're there standing in front of that artificial beach,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: beyond that is the Brisbane River, the Brown Snake, a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: giant river that just encompasses and cuts through like everything
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: in the Greater Brisbane region. You've got this artificial beach
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in front of you, with lifeguards, with lifeguards, the full
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like golden sand, all that sort of stuff, and probably
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the you know, odd patch of kids you're in the water,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and a dodgy needle somewhere who knows.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they keeping the band aid just floating.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And then you've got the river in front.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: But beyond that, and then beyond that the other side
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the river is the city sky.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: When you're in Central Park in New York and you
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: look over and you're in this you feel like you're
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in the bush, and then suddenly there's just this skyline
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: of all these beautiful building.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: And it looks amazing, right, And that's what that does.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: At that at that beach, I'm like, this is a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: beautiful picture right here. I'm like, I'm standing here on
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the concrete next to an ice cream shop or a
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: tourism You get your little gifts and knickknacks and things.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I got this beach, then a river behind it, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: then the city. Like it's like, none of it. This
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in that order. That shouldn't be like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: so I get that I get that they would. I'm
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just wondering what the ship Rona would actually give about
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: San Francisco about even though I do love them. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: love San Francisco.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful I supposed to go to Vancouver this
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Christmas break, but that's not happening.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got to get it. I've gotta get
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it to Candia. So yeah, like I want to say that, like, yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have. I wonder if it would have been
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: like one of those like I went on a cruise
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: this year and we'd get to where do we go
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to Vana Watu and New Caledonia, And there were people
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that didn't even leave the boat. I'm like, why are
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you on this trip? If you're coming on an international
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: to go to a beautiful tropical island and you don't
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: even leave the boat, that's me, that's me. I think
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you told me that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Last year I went on for my fortieth I went
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: on the Disney cruise and I forget where we stopped
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: on the it was like four day cruise. I forget
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: where we stopped on the first one, maybe Mexico maybe,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: We didn't get off.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: We got off at the next stop, which was Disney's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Private Island.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Ris did one well, except the person I was with
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: we went on on a Caribbean holiday and then went
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: to this fancy beach and they wouldn't get in the water,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: and I was like, why would you come on a
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: on a Caribbean holiday if you don't like order?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: It was weird.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: It was a weird experience. So a couple of bits
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: of trivia that we need to run through just so
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I don't get some angry DMS. One which I thought
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: was a nice little bookend, is Beckett. He was the
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: first person we saw in an ancient chair in Rising
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: in the first episode. Oh yeah, he's the last person
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: in this.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Episode that that's kind of fun.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Different chair because of it's the Atlanta different good call way.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Well done, well done. The Uber Hive for lack of
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: a bit is the now. I haven't done the math
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: on this. I'm just I'm just accepting that the Internet
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: is being truthful. This is the twenty ninth Hive ship
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that we've seen destroyed since the series began.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there was that that period at one stage
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: where we had a whole ton of them, right, so
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: we counting. I guess those giant maps that we saw.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It was just like a light that just disappeared, as
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: like there's a IP ship. There's a IIPES ship disappearing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: You know, they went they ancients with us. Sorry, I'm
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: not ancients replicators with their replicator ships.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I though they were like both. But maybe no, you're right,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: maybe let's not pretend I know now.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Something we didn't mention obviously was the appearance of Major Davis,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: which was very exciting for me because I love Major Davis.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I still maintain he should have replaced Daniel Jackson instead
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of Jonas, even though I love Jonas more so now
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: than I.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Did back at the time.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I've forgotten that you'd suggested that that is that is
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a that's a fun idea. I mean, I wouldn't have
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: not that I enjoyed seeing Jonas. It's like in hindsight
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: knowing what became of Jonas and how he was treated. Yeah,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and a big shout out to Currentemic because he is
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the wrap up of every single episode of our podcast broadly,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: so absolutely, and.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Of all the Stargate podcasts. We are the Jonas with
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: the US.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously we've got Major Davis, but we also
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: got Walter, which was great with a little bit of Walter,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: which which leads into the fun bit of trivia. So Carter,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Walter and Major Marx, of all people, are the only
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: characters to appear in Unending and Enemy at the Gate.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Now, if anyone who doesn't know who Major Mars is,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: he is the guy that's always in the in the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: other seat on any of the three or fours Dedalus.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He's always the guy they've got major marks. Make that
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: ship go away, make it gone. Yeah, this was another
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: extended episode according to the DVD.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, that's how I watched it. I was
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in the divodis.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Forty three minutes fifty five seconds. Doesn't feel just like
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: what an extra minutte?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we don't know.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: What no, no idea.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I think maybe there was some talk around the scene
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: you referenced earlier about Wolsey checking in with Taylor and
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Ronan about if they wanted to cut a lot. Apparently
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: the fan was like, that's a really weird sort of
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: scene to put in there, and I think maybe there
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: was talk that, yeah, that would have been the first
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: scene too.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. I could see what would have been cut,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I actually liked that it was there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did give it a sense of finality and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we might not be coming back, but yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I did like that, and that tied with Roan at
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the end when he's in the hospital bed and Shepherd
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: is like, oh, we'll get your home soon. He's like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I'm home. Yeah, that's nice. That's nice for those keeping
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: count I'm not. But he's been pissing me off this season,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: so I just wanted to point out this is yet
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: another scenario where Shepherd has tried to do a suicide mission.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: With a nuke.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it at the end of season one.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I felt it was a couple more times he's just
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: decided to make a suicide.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Man necessary.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's the one that should have done like
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a sacrifice play instead of Ronan, and he finally finally
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: just got to just edge himself completely and knew himself
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: to pieces just to save everybody who knows. Maybe maybe
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in the same way we talked about Hammond back in
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the day, used to just you know, just rub one out,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: just trying.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: To beat the.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Wildfire or the or the or the countdown.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: John's just in the in the puddle dropper by himself,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: just beating himself furiously, just just time it, just trying
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to time it right to the moment before the nuke
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: goes off.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Who knows.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: And then Todd Todd was a weird one for me.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: So he's back to normal in this episode after what
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: two episodes ago, being like, Oh, he's got to go
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and do it really dangerous thing where he's going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: go on mind meld with the with the arrageous bug
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: queen or whatever and have sex with her or whatever
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to get back.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: And now he's just back to normal. He's like, yet
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: be worked, I'm good, I'm fine.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And then the kind of Diosex macin of oh and
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: by the way, here's two more fully charged these edpms
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: that I've had for over a year at this point,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and I'm like.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Men did imagine it?
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: And I was just like and again this was my
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: criticism of be almost sins Remembered, is like, why didn't we,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: as Atlantis people, earthling people, with all our resource, why
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: weren't we and we were down on the surface, like
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Rodney and Ronan were down on the surface, why didn't
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: we try and collect some zspms?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I understand from a writing point of view that made
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: things too easy.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: And I do remember someone, maybe on Patreon or maybe
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: in the discord, saying, oh, maybe Earth didn't view them
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: as real zz edpms because they were created by the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: replicated instead of the ancients. Maybe good enough of this episode,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and now we've got three. So I was like, that's
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: a bit weird. But what I thought was kind of
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: poetic is Todd's final line in the series kind of
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: wraps up the series in an interesting way.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: It's all as well, your home world was saved, you
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and your friends revived, and all thanks to my zero
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: point module.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Question is what would happen next time?
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Is there going to be next time? Oh? Well, yeah, no,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: that was it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: That was how they wrapped up the Todd storyline as well.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you think about it, then they go
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: out onto the balcony and Todd still being held prisoner
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in Atlantis essentially so, but yeah, I just find it
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: interesting that that was his last line and then there
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: wasn't a next time.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, Like I don't know. I think maybe
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: because I'm so used to the idea that this is
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: as far as it went. I don't feel completely dissatisfied. Like,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like there's so much left on the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: table outside of like, well S g One got ten seasons,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: or if we were going to break it down, it
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: got eight seasons and then two like epilogues or something.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I kind of think about it as if we just
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: got unending and we never got the Arc of Truth.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like we would still be satisfied in terms
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: of ye, like we said, they're still going doing all
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: their offield missions. They're still you know, doing all those things.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a finite ending. So I kind of feel
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: that same way about Enemy at the Gate, is that
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: it's a satisfactory ending for the episode and feels poignant,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: but we know it's not the end of the story
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: for all of these people, and they're still going in
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the you know, in the Stargate universe pun intended.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's interesting.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: There is a part of me that goes, would I
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: if I had the option to go back in time,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, well, instead of us getting Continuum,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: what if they did Arc of Truth and then did
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the Atlantis movie and we got those two movies to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: finish up the season.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: But then it's like but then we never would have
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: got Continuum.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And I really like Continuum, and it's like, ah, and
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: if Continuum couldn't guarantee them enough to get the third
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: movie to finish off.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Atlantis, what would have you know what I mean? Continuing
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: was pretty damn good.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So just to that being like the last taste
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of sgu one in your mouth was Gould related, right,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of great stuff in there
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: with with the ari and the idea of it, the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: concepts that maybe they were hoping for that season eleven
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: or something like that, and they had big plans and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: that it was itself the show was going to be
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: unending in a way, but I don't know, just it'd
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: never quite got off the ground the way that they
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: were hoping because of that, the deadline of the cancelation
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But then to get your Continuum as your
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: last taste, you're like, oh, well that's good, okay, Google,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: let's go out on that. Whereas yeah, this, it's like okay, yeah, fine,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about it like that that. It's like
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that could have been their movie, could have been an
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Arc of Truth where it's like oh okay, cool. Yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: It's like kind of what we've already got, but just bigger,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: better or something. So I'm not completely let down by
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: this being a finale. I'm just and I listened back
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: to and editing the podcast last three four or five episodes.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I was growing ever so concerned that we were heading
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: into a knowing what you guys had said about the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: fact that, hey, they really wanted this movie. Joe Flanagan
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: was going to buy the rights to it so they
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: could produce it in some form, in some medium. The
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: story of that movie that we're heading into a cliffhanger.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And I was already disappointed and let down and sad
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: because of that. And that's not what happened. We don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: get a cliffhanger. We're on Earth. That to me is
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: not a cliffhanger. They just yep, fire in a you know.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: M and has got three.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just just just plug it in and we're
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: sweet and even though the raithness of it all yep, fine, cool,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: like in the ends, you know, the the overall storyline
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of this series has not been to protect Earth from
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the Wraith, but it has been a threat that's like
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: pop self up ever so slightly before this was just
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: like a big one and then we've ended that threats
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and yeah, we never get another episode. Okay, that's the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: world we're in. If we get another entire season.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Cool.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: This doesn't feel like this doesn't feel hardly enough what
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: we're talking about before. This doesn't feel like the Toy
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: story three that if we were going to get season six,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: we would have been like, oh really you're going back
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: to that. Well, it would have just felt like a
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: season five finale that just happened to have a big finish.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think SG one should have
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: wrapped up with Daniel dying in season five. I'm glad
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: they kept going. It just felt like, again like we
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: were talking about before, a big character dying that just
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: didn't last either.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Anyway, because also the idea that Daniel dying means there's
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: no more stories to tell puts too much emphasis on
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the Daniel character. Yeah, gotcha, you know what I mean, Like,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, well, no, of course they're still
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be out there fighting with the Gowald and doing
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: all those things. So yeah, I guess because we didn't
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: get the finality in this in the same way we
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: did with the gol world and even the Orri. I
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: kind of I think retroactively, I've always looked at the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Wraith as almost like a natural phenomenon, like you know,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you can prepare yourself for that storm on the horizon,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: but you're not actively trying to stop it, like it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: always going to keep coming, like there's always going to
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: be bad weather or whatever. So I kind of look
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: at the Wraith that way, and that it's it's part
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: of the circle of life in Atlantis when it comes
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to that kind of thing, like the gould were doing
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: it for vanity, they were doing it to rule, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: they wanted hot posts and all that kind of stuff,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: whereas the Wraith we are we're as a food source.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: And it's like, so, yeah, well, if the Wraith suddenly
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: ceased to exist, what.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Kind of repercussions does that have? You know that on
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: the Pegasus galaxy.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously it's good that you know, there's not these regular
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: cuttings and all that kind of situation. But yeah, I
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: don't know that the finale, like say they managed to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: eradicate the Wraith, I don't know if that's a satisfying
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: because we've spent so much time trying to find a
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: way for them to not have to feed, to coexist
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. The thing from a couple
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago where Todd was like, well, without the
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: need to feed, what are we basically as a culture?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: What are we?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: You know? So, I mean, I would like to think
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: that the living conditions in the pegasas Galaxy are better
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: for the average you know, ethosion or Jeni or whatever
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: it may be. And obviously, you know, there's only a
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: couple of episodes ago we got the revelation that's like, oh, well,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: now some of these planets are starting to you know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: group together and form their own governments and all that
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Yeah, maybe we'd like to see a
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: little bit a little bit more of that, but yeah,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: hopefully maybe something in the rebit at least we even
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: get just some some lines of dialogue. Yeah, they're just
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: and surely with Giro, given that Giro did really work
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: on SG one. I think he wrote a couple of episodes,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: but he's an SGA guy. Yeah, that was the show
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: that he came in on, that was where he spent
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: most of his time. I'm hoping that he will at
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: least be able to include a few bits and pieces
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and maybe he wants a little bit of that closure
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Oh yeah, it's at least going to be
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: passing reference in there in there somewhere for sure. So
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking forward to. The you know, I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: don't I mean again just I mean, we've spoken about
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it many times throughout the podcast, the idea of them
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: doing a starg at Command type series, and I've thrown around, well, yeah,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: don't even focus on one team, And okay, for television,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you probably want for that audience retention, you want it
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to be about a certain group of characters. But we
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: can focus in different or just utilize the world building
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: that's already been done fifteen, twenty, twenty five years ago whatever,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And have you know the SGC on Earth and have
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the base in Atlantis, and then have you know different
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Alpha sites out there, and you know whether or not
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: there's a third galaxy that's got something on and don't
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: look at me if there's something to do with that
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: in a universe, I have no idea. Not looking at you,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: not looking at you, but moving on. You know that
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: we could utilize all of that and for the idea
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: that we could get a brand new show from a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: lead creative of Stargate Atlantis and not get some even
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: just offhanded reference through dialogue of what not even what
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: became of it, but just what's what it's doing now? Like, yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: it's back in the Pegasus sclexy, it's back on. Maybe
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: it went back to its original planet. Maybe they found
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a way. They're back in the original planet from the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: first three seasons.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: And nice because we never got any resolution to.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: That that skybeam and now that the what do you
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: call them replicators have been destroyed. Yeah, you would assume
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: there's no power that thing.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So the bloody Flag of sallus a break from being.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Oh the flag salaces the Flaggers Salas, back to the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: fragiic Salas.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be assuming that beam didn't just like cut
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: through the entire planet and planets lit in half like
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: you did that asteroid.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, because otherwise in ten thousand years, when the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: next what do they call it coronal massage actually comes through.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: The flatger Salas did, we don't want that.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Think of the Flag of Sallas, got.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Somebody, think of the Flagers Alas. What's the deal?
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You know, win friends with Fledge of Sallas.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: You know, bloody hell s g a, mate, that's it.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: We're done.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Then, Oh my god.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well hey, hey, hey, and look we went
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: this entire episode without making a really bad dad joke
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: pun about the fact that it's called Enemy of the Gate.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: And then the last shot was of the Golden Gate Bridge.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I remember the enemy. I just thought about Emmy at
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the Gate being I mean, I know it's a it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: a term and stuff that my thought goes, bet, there's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: a great war film, the Jude Law.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: That great Will Smith film, Enemy of the State.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, what a movie.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen that in a long great show. I
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: do remember enjoying that.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my favorite movie for a long time.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: That came out when us twelve, so that the Symbers.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of like government conspiracies when you're twelve,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: you're watching that, like especially back then when like the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: idea of satellite and phone tracking and stuff. Now it's like, oh, mate,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I'm carrying around a device.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the government of tracking openly putting my
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: own details in here.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're dumb, Mitch far out man. We did it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Joe Willigan, get it, say.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, here we go. I we will be
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: back for a rank.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after what Mitch has got on his phone,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: He's going to need a rank.
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  Speaker 1: God, I'm.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeh.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, oh, we've got some other stuff
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: to tell you, but we won't tell you that because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: we'll just wait until next week.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I finished the season, well we finished the season,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: but we finished the season of the show.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: We haven't finished the season of the podcast. Still one
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: more episode to.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Come wrap up twenty twenty five. Yeah, in a big
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: way with a release I mean rank.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: That's how I like to see the day day, let
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: alone in the year.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Sometimes start the day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's the best start the day.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have time for that.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Ship made work now, Yeah, you were four in the morning.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: We start next year and the day you know, I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: wake up at eleven am in a king sized bed
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: by myself.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole thing they're like, start, what does it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: spend New Years? The way that you want to spend
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the year and all that bullshit. Oh you ever heard that? No,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about what you're saying, Like, what a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: way to wrap up the year of like you're doing
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that at eleven fifty nine? Yeah, maybe like a twelve oh, one.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, what does that say about your next twelve months?
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  Speaker 3: Even if you're doing in a twelve oh one, that's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: a long time made.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I wasn't saying start. Oh, I was like, I was
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: assuming you're putting a bit of marathon in there, like,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I was. I wasn't saying it. I wasn't
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: talking like a pig orgasm.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Oh it's two minutes, oh yeah, fifty nine to tweve
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: o ones or the two minutes that was the joke.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: That's a long time yeah, yeaheah, yeah, I was trying
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to do your favorite by saying that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: That was just the well, I mean, maybe that's why
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: going back to the whole Disney thing then, But so
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: I'm done Disney because I'll just spend New Years to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: treat my own by.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Do you like an amusement park?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: That's what it did it Disney, and you're actually just
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: not allowed back it. Feel bad?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I feel bad about that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Magic Mountains never looked the same.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Splash Mountain.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Oh God, into Geek, Get into Gee, get into the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: gate Stargate podcast.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Get into it now before it's too late.