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10-8 H2: Time To Tank, Softy Joins & ABC's · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I just asked Anders in the break, can you name
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  Speaker 1: one current belt holder in boxing? And not to make
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  Speaker 1: Anders sound bad, because I'm going to tell you right now,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I lived in Vegas, for goodness sake, and
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  Speaker 1: we went to the fights all the time. Covered fights
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But Kidd still keeps up with the sport.
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  Speaker 3: Supposedly.
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  Speaker 2: And still doesn't want to go see one at the casino.
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  Speaker 2: Still just wants to... He really is big on his
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  Speaker 2: pee freedom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He must not want everything.
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  Speaker 1: He really prioritizes that. By the way, Tulalip Resort Casino,
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  Speaker 1: the bathrooms are free. Just want everybody to know that.
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  Speaker 1: In case there was any confusion. Maybe Kit had some confusion.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he thought you had to pay a tax to
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  Speaker 3: take a whiz.
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  Speaker 2: He really, really loves his own turlet.
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  Speaker 4: He really does.
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  Speaker 3: I guess so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go anywhere else. Why would I
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  Speaker 1: want to use another toilet? Great to have you with
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  Speaker 1: us here this morning. We roll into our 7 o'clock hour,
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  Speaker 1: our second hour here on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is casino night.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be out at the Tulalip Resort Casino tonight for
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen Chalk Talk.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. He's putting on his own show.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight at 5 o'clock, 5 to 7, roughly. And so
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  Speaker 1: Anders and I will be out there. Then we'll be
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  Speaker 1: doing our show from Tulalip Resort Casino tomorrow morning as well.
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  Speaker 1: If you'd like to attend, by the way, we are
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  Speaker 1: not charging anything, just like the bathrooms. We're not charging
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  Speaker 1: anything to see Hugh Millen do his Chalk Talk session.
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  Speaker 1: But we would like to know if you're coming. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, prepare the food and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: Mrs.
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  Speaker 1: Hurst has some potato salad. She wants to know how
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  Speaker 1: much she needs to make.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to send us a text at
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  Speaker 1: 49451 to reserve you a seat or two or.
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  Speaker 2: Four, let us know. 49451.
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  Speaker 1: But do it now because the event is tonight at
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  Speaker 1: Tulalip Resort Casino where they have more of everything than
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  Speaker 1: ever before.
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  Speaker 3: Kid must not want everything.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Just wants a bathroom with easy access and nobody in
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  Speaker 1: his bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably the biggest thing. It's not really
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  Speaker 2: that I need my own toilet.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to go into my bathroom and
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  Speaker 1: have another stranger standing there.
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  Speaker 4: Using my bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Chuck. Andrews, what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 3: It's called a bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: Where did you come from? Using the head. All right,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to your headlines.
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  Speaker 1: They are brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light Cold
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  Speaker 1: as the Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks taking on the 49ers Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: A closed-door meeting held by the defensive leaders yesterday in
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  Speaker 1: regards to dumb penalties. and so we'll see if that
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  Speaker 1: gets fixed. I just don't want them to go so
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  Speaker 1: hard on let's not play after the whistle that we
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  Speaker 1: don't get them playing ultra-aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: It's part of what makes them good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. Okay. I think that it
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  Speaker 2: was a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I know Jaron Reed, when he speaks, people listen, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that Big Cat, when he speaks, people listen.
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  Speaker 1: Julian Love. They handled it the right way. I have
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  Speaker 1: trust in the fellas. Big Cat looks like he is
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  Speaker 1: going to play. There's video of him just practicing yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like he's favoring anything.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 1: So, yes, that's huge news. Seahawks 49ers will be Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: It will be the afternoon game. Tonight, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, winless,
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  Speaker 1: will be taking on the Dallas Cowboys. That's Thursday night football.
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  Speaker 1: We'll play some fact or fiction at 735. We've already
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  Speaker 1: picked that game, though. The kid's already gone in on
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Week six of the college football season will highlight Alabama-Georgia
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  Speaker 1: if they play the game. There's some extreme weather expected
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  Speaker 1: in the southeast, and it could potentially postpone one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest games annually of the year. But my guess
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  Speaker 1: is they'll probably end up playing it.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: They'll go to great lengths to play it, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you that. They'll put up with more nasty weather than
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  Speaker 1: what most would put up with. to play this football game. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Friday night, UW will be hosting Iowa Soft. He will
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  Speaker 1: join us at 725, as he does every week, to
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  Speaker 1: discuss this Friday night affair. Also Friday, Kraken at Detroit.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: The Kraken 2-2 on the year. So far, there are
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: only two wins, two blowout wins over Calgary. Meanwhile, the
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  Speaker 1: WNBA playoffs continue, and it looks like we could have
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  Speaker 1: some new blood in the WNBA Finals. Best of five
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  Speaker 1: series in the semifinals, and yet it's Atlanta up on
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  Speaker 1: New York 2-0 and Golden State up on Las Vegas 2-0.
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  Speaker 1: So the Dream and the Valkyries each one win away
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  Speaker 1: from that being your NBA finals this year. And the
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball playoffs last night. Three teams punched their
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  Speaker 1: tickets to the championship series. The Dodgers are going to
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  Speaker 1: face off with the Brewers starting on Sunday. Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: has also advanced. They do not know their opponent. Cleveland
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  Speaker 1: and the Chicago White Sox play game four of their
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  Speaker 1: series tonight at 5 o'clock. The Guardians stayed alive yesterday
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago. White Sox still up two games to one
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  Speaker 1: in that series as Tampa awaits. All right, those are
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  Speaker 1: your headlines brought to you by Coors Light. Cold as
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  Speaker 1: the Rockies. Also, Jon Rahm chose to leave live. And
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  Speaker 1: the Sounders will play New England on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk some National Football League. I mean, usually this
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  Speaker 1: is the Greg Bell segment, so I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: just talk Seahawks. We got this one little hole to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Greg's going to be on the roundtable here today.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the league. Let's talk about 0-14.
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  Speaker 1: And let's start with that Thursday night affair. As the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers are trying to get their first win
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  Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys here this evening, they're.
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  Speaker 2: Playing without Baker Mayfield.
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  Speaker 1: Not giving them much of a chance to be 1-4
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the night, but there are five
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  Speaker 1: teams currently winless in the National Football League, and teams
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  Speaker 1: these days, Anders, are tanking more quickly than ever, just
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  Speaker 1: making that decision that it is in the best interest
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  Speaker 1: right now of our organization to try to not.
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  Speaker 2: Win a lot of games from this point forward.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering if, as we go through this list,
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  Speaker 1: which ones we might identify as Just tank already. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. As they get ready
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  Speaker 1: to face the Cowboys tonight, could very easily probably will
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  Speaker 1: be 0-5 at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 2: Is it time for the Buccaneers to just tank already?
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to wait at least one more
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  Speaker 3: week before you can say that, because mainly.
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  Speaker 3: Going to the playoffs in the NFL is kind of
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  Speaker 3: a big ultimate goal here. And even if you don't
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  Speaker 3: think you can win the Super Bowl, getting to the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs is a big kind of hurdle to get over
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  Speaker 3: that point. The leader of the divisions, the Panthers at
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  Speaker 3: 2-2 and the Falcons at 2-2, you are by no
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  Speaker 3: means all the way out of this yet. A couple
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  Speaker 3: of good weeks for you, a couple of bad weeks
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  Speaker 3: for them. You're right back in the thick of things.
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  Speaker 3: So of the 0-4 teams, I think the Buccaneers are
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  Speaker 3: probably the one... that I would say is the most
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  Speaker 3: likely to just be like, hey, we can turn this around.
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  Speaker 2: We're good to go. I would put two ahead of that. Really?
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  Speaker 1: But I do agree with you that the Buccaneers are
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  Speaker 1: going to stay pat. I mean, number one, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to wait until Baker can get back. Number two, they
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  Speaker 1: might be, as you mentioned, in the weakest division in
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  Speaker 1: the entire league. And a two-game deficit is nothing. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say this. This is what I think is
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  Speaker 1: unique about Tampa's situation. If you do make that decision soon,
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  Speaker 1: you have to fire Todd Bowles. Yes. If you are
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  Speaker 1: going to tank, you can't hold on to a head
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  Speaker 1: coach who obviously is going to do whatever it takes
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  Speaker 1: to try and save his job, which means he is
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  Speaker 1: not going to play by any kind of tanking rules.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Any kind of interim head coach, yeah, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: try to win, but he also is going to try
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  Speaker 1: to impress the organization and is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: good soldier in that situation. where Bowles is going to
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  Speaker 1: be like, no, no, no, no, I got to turn
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  Speaker 1: this thing around for my own career. This is probably
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  Speaker 1: my last chance to be a head coach in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. I've had a couple of chances. This
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  Speaker 1: is probably it. And I got to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: I turn this thing around. So that's what you would
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  Speaker 1: have to do. I don't think they're at that point.
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  Speaker 1: If Baker Mayfield gets back on the field and the
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  Speaker 1: team's already 0-7, Which they could be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very much.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be 0-5 after tonight, and
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to be back for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Then I don't know what you can do to save it,
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  Speaker 1: but it really is going to lie here in the
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  Speaker 1: next couple of games for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You
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  Speaker 1: don't think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are winning tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: The Cowboys are going to kick their tails in.
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  Speaker 3: You better.
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  Speaker 2: I need them to.
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  Speaker 5: I would say that this game is interesting because against
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  Speaker 5: my pick, let's say They lose by three points. Now
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  Speaker 5: you're wondering, like, oh, we got an undrafted rookie quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: He looks fine. Can we get a win? You look
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  Speaker 5: at all their losses, I think they're within four points.
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  Speaker 5: So they just find ways to lose games, which is
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  Speaker 5: still not a good football team.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a disaster.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think there is a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a horizon where if you're a Bucs fan, you're thinking,
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  Speaker 5: if we could just... win a game at some point.
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  Speaker 5: Because you look at the NFC South, they're not juggernauts.
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  Speaker 5: The Saints are 1-3. You win a game, you're right there.
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  Speaker 5: So I would say don't bank on tanking if they
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  Speaker 5: lose tonight. But if they get blown out, okay, let's
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  Speaker 5: start thinking here. Obviously we're in competitive. How can we
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  Speaker 5: figure this out? So yeah, I think it just depends
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  Speaker 5: on how they lose tonight. I think that matters.
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  Speaker 1: I think what all that matters is what their record
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  Speaker 1: is when Mayfield's ready to come back. Even if they
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  Speaker 1: lost tonight, if they're 2-5. when he comes back, I
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  Speaker 1: think that they'll be like, let's hold the line. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see what we can do. All right, let's jump to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: They are off to an 0-4 start. They were expecting
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  Speaker 1: better days this year, and yet they might look worse
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  Speaker 1: than what they did a year ago. Tennessee Titans, should
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  Speaker 1: they just tank already? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if they're not already, let's be completely honest.
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  Speaker 3: There's just nothing here that tells you that, hey, we
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  Speaker 3: should be competing for this year. We need to continue
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  Speaker 3: to fix some things. And the whole reason people tank
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  Speaker 3: is or teams tank is to, you know, sacrifice success
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: in the short term for, you know, It doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Mean you stop competing. Exactly, right? It just means that.
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  Speaker 3: Your focus is not on this year. It's on years
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  Speaker 3: in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this sounds terrible. You're just not.
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  Speaker 1: You're prioritizing development.
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  Speaker 2: You're not prioritizing wins.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's that controversial of a statement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they should already be there as well.
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  Speaker 1: And unlike the Tampa Bay situation with Robert Sala, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I realize he's in his first year, but I think
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  Speaker 1: they already have figured out this was a bad decision.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's not going to lead us. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think he's going to end up being a one and done.
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  Speaker 1: So he's somebody that you can just play out the string.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably going to help you lose those
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  Speaker 1: games and he's probably going to help you with your development.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably the right guy. Just don't give him any
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  Speaker 1: indication that he is one and done. But I would
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  Speaker 1: imagine that they're going to be once again at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the draft this year, which is probably where
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: they need to be. And any thought they were going
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  Speaker 1: to take a big step forward was fallacy. And so
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  Speaker 1: for them, I think that The idea of tanking without tanking.
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  Speaker 1: We are secretly, we're not going to tell you to
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  Speaker 1: change anything, Salah. Because it looks like you're sending us
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  Speaker 1: right in the direction.
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  Speaker 2: We need to be. You could be trying to win
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  Speaker 2: and still be tanking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I think there'll be sellers at the trading deadline,
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  Speaker 1: which will be evidence of their tanking decisions. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go. I say Tennessee's already tanking. I'd say the
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: same thing, Chris, about Miami. That's already underway. And shame
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  Speaker 1: on the Miami Dolphins for not trading Devin A. Chan
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason. How ridiculous is it to be in
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  Speaker 1: a rebuild and you're like, no, no, no, no. This
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  Speaker 1: is the one guy, this 135-pound tailback that we're planning
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  Speaker 1: on using.
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  Speaker 2: More this year. That's the guy we're not. He is untouchable.
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  Speaker 1: What a ridiculous decision they made in the offseason.
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  Speaker 2: They were already, Chris, tanking, and now they're off to
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  Speaker 2: an 0-4 start.
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  Speaker 1: So just stay down this road and maybe, maybe consider
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the way good decisions.
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  Speaker 3: Sell the veterans.
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  Speaker 2: Get them out of there. Try to do something.
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  Speaker 5: Make the quarterback, I would guess, the centerpiece of the evaluation,
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  Speaker 5: which is Malik Willis, who's okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's a curious thing. Have you committed to Malik Willis because—
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  Speaker 1: The whole idea behind a tank is to get in
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  Speaker 1: position to get the quarterback of your future. How committed
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  Speaker 1: are you? I mean, they gave him money to be
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  Speaker 1: the starter to try to prove that he could be
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  Speaker 1: the starter.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's played poorly. He just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have any talent. Nothing.
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  Speaker 5: So he's the one team that's like, if we really
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  Speaker 5: believe this guy can help us, maybe we should try
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  Speaker 5: to build around him. I know you lose your star
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: running back, but they were losing games with him anyway.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: So this is quite a dumpster fire in Miami.
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  Speaker 4: All right. So.
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  Speaker 1: Anders, I said Tampa would be third on my list.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think Houston bails on this season at all.
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  Speaker 1: They started 0-3 a year ago. Okay, they're 0-4. But
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: they rallied and almost made it to the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: last season. I mean, it is stunning that they are
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: 0-4 right now, but they played some pretty good competition.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just, their offense getting a little bit better
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  Speaker 1: away from possibly going on a run like they did
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. That defense is for real. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that the Chargers aren't going to tank. There's no
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: way that Jim Harbaugh is going to allow it. And he,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, is going to use this season to
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: figure out if I have a successful marriage between my
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: new OC and my quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think there's any give up at all
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  Speaker 2: from the Chargers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, regarding the Texans, I agree with you. They're not
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  Speaker 3: an 0-4 team. and I do believe they're a much
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: better team than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but because of
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: their situation in the division, I guess you could say
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: it's somewhat similar. The Jaguars are 3-1, and they're a
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  Speaker 3: really good team. It's not just about winning the division, though.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are wild card teams. Wild cards, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you're right.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: So I do think the Texans are right there. I
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: don't know, man. The statistics behind 0-4 teams making the
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: playoffs are extremely low, and if you're looking at this
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: from a, hey, if we... sacrifice a lot of this
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: year to try and get an elite player, um, to
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  Speaker 3: help us really get over the top. You would be
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: in a unique situation if you're Houston, because I don't
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people think there are many pieces away,
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  Speaker 3: but if you would find yourself in a top 10,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: top five, even draft pick by, by the time the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the spring rolls around with that team, with that foundation,
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  Speaker 3: you could really kind of be in an interesting situation.
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  Speaker 3: Similar with the chargers too. I think the chargers are
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: just broken in general. they need to figure out what
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: happens with Mike McDaniel. So I don't know. It just
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  Speaker 3: kind of feels like they, they should be given up
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  Speaker 3: on this season.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, no tanks.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Apparently we have two tanks and a couple of question
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  Speaker 1: marks at this point.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Joining us next to softy sports radio, 93.3 KJR FM. Oh,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Friday night football this week.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Right here on.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Your flagship Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM of Washington Huskies football
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and the star of our coverage joins us. We're lucky
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: enough to have him wake to cartoon Blue Jays singing
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: songs and.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Fluttering about his balcony.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Geez.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: Is it bowel movement? No. Balcony. Balcony. I thought you
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: said bowel movement.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Joining us now on the program.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Greeting the world with his song, it is David Softy Mahler.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir. What's going on, boys? How are you?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I'm doing all right.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Good to be here. Thrilled to be here. Overjoyed to
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: be here.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: That Cam Cleland sure doesn't like Friday night football. Do
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: you like Friday night football?
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: You know, Cam doesn't like anybody or anything these days.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: He's getting kind of grumpy in his old age. Although
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: he's got a daughter on a full-ride Scully to UW
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: to play softball. He's got another kid who's ripping it
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: up at UC Davis down there, alma mater of Chris Peterson,
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: by the way. Another son who's got a smoking hot girlfriend,
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know what his problem is. Life is good.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: What is his issue?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He just doesn't like Friday night football.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: He's running a golf wholesale company.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: He does the games with Elise.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: He gets to hang out with you every week.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: What does he have to really complain about?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Friday night football, apparently.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: I love Friday night football. I know you do. I
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: play every game on Friday.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Every game. Every single one. Are you kidding me?
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, very selfishly, if I'm coming to work anyway
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: on a Friday, let's play the game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Why not? And I get Saturday off.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: You're in work mode.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Every damn game on Friday.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Well, you know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: The atmosphere for tonight, Iowa Hawkeyes, terrific brand.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow, I should say, yes. For tomorrow.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Are you expecting electricity, or is the fan base right
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: now not really ready to put forth electricity at Montlake?
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, for as much as I like the Friday
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: night games, I understand I'm in the extreme minority in
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: that regard, right? So I'm more than willing to acknowledge that,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: that for a lot of people, tomorrow night is going
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: to be an absolute pain in the ass, especially with
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Seattle traffic at 6 p.m. I mean, if you're getting there,
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: you're either getting there, you know, right at probably, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: 1 or 2 o'clock in the afternoon before traffic hits
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: or you're sitting in traffic for, a couple hours, right?
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: So I get it. I don't know what kind of
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: crowd we're going to have tomorrow. I'm looking at venue
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: kings and tickets are 29 bucks to get in the
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: door for the game tomorrow night against Iowa. This is
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: the first time they've been here, by the way, since 1963.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: So literally none of us, unless you're old, have ever
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: seen Iowa play a football game in Seattle. This is
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: all brand new to us, right? I mean, they've been
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: here for basketball, but they haven't been here for football.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: And you know, 60-plus years. So I'm looking forward to it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: I think it's a game UW can win. I thought
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: they played some of their best football of the year
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: on Saturday versus USC, and in other ways played some
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: of their worst football on Saturday versus USC, considering the.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Opponent they were playing. So I don't know, man.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know what the hell's up or down with
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: this team and this fan base right now, to be
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: honest with you.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The offensive line getting the shakeup, does that make you nervous,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: or is it long overdue?
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, it makes me nervous a little bit. I mean,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: I was nervous about this from the start that we
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: were starting an 18-year-old at left tackle. I don't know
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: how that can't make you nervous, you know, and I
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: just remember having these conversations with Dick and you guys
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: on the air that he's 18. He's going to struggle, right?
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, if this wasn't the NIL era and he
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: was just a traditional firefighter. recruit at left tackle, he'd
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: be sitting for a year or two. There's no way
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: he's playing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: At the age of 18, and especially in the Big Ten.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Because you're paying him a lot of money, and you're
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: paying DCB and Ramzak and all these guys money. You've
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: got no choice, and I get it. They have to
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: play him right away or they'll leave, and they'll go
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: play for somebody else. And then somebody else will bear
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: the fruits of your labor, right? So a little nervous
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: about where the line's at. I'm obviously fired up to
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: get Landon back. I mean, we'll see how big of
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: a difference he makes. Everybody thinks it's going to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: a big one, including Chris Peterson, by the way. So
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: if he comes back and there is a marked, distinct
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: difference with the offensive line on Friday night, Whatever Landon
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Hatchett's paying, they might want to quadruple it, honestly, because
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: that's how important that guy is.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Where do you lie on the DeMond-Williams discussion? All is
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: line's fault? Or is DeMond struggling? Where do you lie
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in this?
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's partly the line. It's partly the
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: lack of a running game, which is a huge problem.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: But he's in his third year. I mean, he just
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: started his 20th game last week. In L.A., number 21
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: is this Friday against Iowa. If I would have told you,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: you know, two years ago coming off that Louisville Sun
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Bowl game that we'd be sitting here, you know, in
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: week six of 2026 and he's making his 21st start
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: and he's playing like this, you would have said no way.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, that guy that we saw in El Paso, like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: what happened to that guy? Dropping dimes downfield. I realize
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: that Louisville had some guys banged up that day on
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: defense or guys that were skipping out. On defense, even
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: their quarterback, Tyler Shuck, who's now starting for the Saints,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: didn't play in that game. But you could see the talent, right,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: that day. You could see the talent that day in
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: El Paso. Whether they won or lost wasn't even really
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: the big deal. It was just the way DeMond played,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: and he played magnificently. And ever since then, it's just
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: not happening. I mean, you go back and look at
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: the sack fumble. He's got Cade Eldridge wide open to
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: his right. misses him the last two plays obviously we
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: can talk about Jed's play calling but you know the
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: sack he took can't do that it's just not happening
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: with this guy and there's a lot of Husky fans
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: that you know the chatter you talk about chatter Chuck
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: yeah you know do we want him back next year
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: uh you know you're gonna have to make another investment
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: in a quarterback and is the investment you make do
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: you want to make it in DeMond Williams so I
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: think it's totally up in the air right now what
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: what what his status looks like for next.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Season Not that you've studied the Iowa Hawkeyes.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I have.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Every single year for your entire life.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I watched the All-22.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: No, I know you've watched this year's team. I'm talking
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: about in your life.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: It's not like you've got Iowa Hawkeye magazine subscriptions or anything.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I do have a lot of magazine subscriptions. We won't
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: talk about it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: That cornfield centerfold that you like to unfurl.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: By the way, I need that back.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: But is there any team that just looks the same
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: every year?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Other than the Iowa Hawkeye, it's the same damn team,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the way that they play for our entire lives.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Is it not?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. 17, 10, 13, 10, 2014, 21, 17, every single
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: damn game.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: They play terrific linemen, you know, no quarterback usually have
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of good tight end, you know, uh, you know, one,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: if not two, but you know, teams not, not named
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Northern Illinois or Northern.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Iowa, uh, that Iowa's played this year.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, they've scored 16, 20, and 14 points in
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: the three games that they played. I guess that's kind
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: of why I feel pretty good about Friday night that,
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: you know, we should have better athletes than they do.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: And we'll see if it actually matters. We'll see where
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: their heads are at in this game. But now they're
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: starting quarterback. You know Hank Brown may not play tomorrow night.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: They may have to go to their backup. I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: the guy Moulton, who's the running back, Kamari Moulton, he
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: was the backup when we went out there A couple
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: years ago, he's the problem, obviously. Their offensive line and
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: defensive lines are going to be really good. But, yeah,
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: this is going to be hopefully a quicker game because
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: you won't see as much passing from Iowa. Maybe just
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: maybe we can get this thing done in under three
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: hours and get the hell out of there by 9
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: o'clock on Friday night, right?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But you're exactly right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is going to be, you would assume,
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Chuck and Anders, with five minutes to go in the
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: fourth quarter, going to.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Be a game. Oh, yeah. Always is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a game. And you better not
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: make mistakes because they're not going to.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: No, no question. No question.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Well, look, here's the thing, man. I just need to
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: start seeing something from this offense. And I think all
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: of us agree with that. But Washington made a big deal,
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: as they should have, about the jump they took.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: In a lot of categories from 24 to 25. Like
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: they went from 104th to 17th in scoring. Now they're 87th, right?
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: They went from 61st to 38th in total offense. Now
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: they're 84th. They went from third down percentage, 101st to 10th.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Now they're 130th.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: And they're, what, two for 22 in the Big Ten
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: so far on third down? I mean, it's ridiculous, man.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: You know, just the step backs. Your rushing went from
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: 87th to 58th, and now they're 126th. Red zone, 74th
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: to 7th.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And now they're 88th.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is not what year 300 Jed Fish, man,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: was supposed to be all about.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: We got casino night, you know, tonight. I know you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like a good casino night. You can come out and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: join us. Anders apparently is going to go over and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: play just Rochambeau. Do they have a Rochambeau at Tulalip
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Resort Casino? He's not a big cards guy. I mean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: kid's going to sit there and stay at home because
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he only likes to go to the bathroom in his
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: own bathroom.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Is that true, by the way? Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Holy moly.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So what about you? When you go to casino night,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: where can we find you?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Like 3 o'clock in the morning, where can I find
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Dave Softy Mahler on casino night?
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Wandering the roulette tables, looking at the board to see
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: how many consecutive reds and blacks have come up in
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: a row, and then I'm the idiot that jumps in
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: and bets the opposite.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Every time.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Every time I'll stand there like a moron twiddling my thumbs.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, 15 reds. I'll bet black loss. You big sucker.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, like, how do I really know that
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: those numbers are accurate? How do I know that somebody
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: in the casino is not saying here comes that moron?
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Let's put up 25 blacks in a row and see
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: if he'll bet red.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. I'm just trusting the board. So
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: that's what I do.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: But can I go to the sportsbook up there and
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: bet on how many words Hugh Millen's going to use
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: that I won't understand?
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: The over-under is 118.5. Okay, there you go.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I would take the over on that. Okay.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: You guys are all heading up there tonight, right?
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, we are. Okay, great. Well, you better leave now,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: by the way.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, no doubt. All right, so we've got.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Chuck making a public appearance, Andrews. That doesn't happen very often,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: by the way.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It just took me joining the show, Softy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: That's right. Can't wait to hang out with Andrews and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: call Chris Kidd while he's in his bathroom.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Tell him what a good time he's missing. Go see
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Chuck in person. He actually exists for all those people
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: that think he's full of crap with his guaranteed human nonsense.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for tomorrow. Can't wait for coverage.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Are you going, by the way, to the game? I might.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I might.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That's two nights in a row for me, though.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: That's a lot. That's a lot.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: That's a lot to ask of me.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I didn't think about that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: It's a Friday night. You got nothing going on Saturday, man. Hey,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: why don't I grab you a pass? Join me on
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: the sideline. Hang out with me on the sideline tomorrow.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Watch the game from the field. Yeah, I don't want
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to get bloodied.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: No, that doesn't work.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to get sweaty.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: By the way, did you hear the story about how
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I almost locked myself in a port-a-potty during the USC
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: game on Saturday?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: No, but I do have to get to Factor Fiction,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: so better make it quick.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Well, I just locked myself in a port-a-potty. That's all.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: It's exactly like it says.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: We got no time. It was hot. I was drinking
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: a lot of water. I had to pee.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: I went to a port-a-potty in the sweet area and
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: had no idea how to get out.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised Petro's papadakis didn't tuck you over.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Well, they don't like him over there, by the way. Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I know. All right, man. Well, have fun tomorrow. Yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: All right, David Softy Mahler joining us right here on
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the radio program.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It'll be a 6 o'clock start, correct?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: 2 o'clock pregame with the Honks. I love the guy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can get out of there in three hours.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Well, only if you do a two-and-a-half-hour postgame show.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: All right, let's play some Factor Fiction. We're set to go.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Glad you're with us.
• 28:16
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• 28:21
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• 28:22
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• 28:24
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• 28:28
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• 28:29
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• 28:32
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• 28:35
  Speaker 2: If you had to rank all the people that you know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: On who would be the most likely person to lock
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: themselves in a porta potty at a football game mike
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: benton number one oh i was gonna say softy's got
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to be number one but it's close you beat me
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to it it's close yeah it's not i'm not even
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: surprised by that story i'm not either actually oh are
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: there games where you don't lock yourself in a porta potty.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Oh i was just under the impression that that happened
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: all the time All right, let's play some Factor Fiction.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that my coworkers left me this game
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because I've wanted it ever since I made a pick
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: on Monday. But I wanted to pick the Monday night
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: game for you, the Factor Fiction player. But this is
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the game that I've liked the most all week long.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It is in the college ranks. I realize Nebraska is 5-0.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I realize they're at home. But in the words of
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel, I'm going to you-know-what all over their corn. Yes.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Indiana is going to win this game by 30.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: They are giving 7.5.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a decent number on the road against
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: an undefeated football team. Nebraska has not played anybody. Indiana
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is going to wipe the cornfield with them.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Well played. Yeah. Well played.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Give me the fighting Mike Gastineau's minus seven and a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: half in this game over Nebraska. That means Indiana on
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the road has to win by eight points or more
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: in order for me to be correct. But it doesn't
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: matter if I'm correct. Yeah, we got some bragging rights
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: around here. We usually win in the mornings.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 30:15
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  Speaker 4: Think It Up.
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  Speaker 1: Weird, awkward, I'm standing up for some reason and not
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: at a table and the lighting's weird and I don't
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: know why we did it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Press conference? Yeah. They don't have any choice.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to approach this offseason as business as usual
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: until we know what the new rules are.
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  Speaker 2: We can't assume anything.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I think maybe that applies to picking your manager. I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: really not sure what else you can do roster-wise without
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: knowing what the rules are going to be going forward.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Because this isn't a situation like they're going to have
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: until spring training to get something done. But the actual lockout,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the actual expiration of the current collective bargaining agreement is
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: December 1st.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So on December 1st, they're going to lock out any
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: kind of trade activity, free agent activity.
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  Speaker 4: Negotiations, yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So we're going to play baseball through October. I mean,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: do you really expect much movement in the month of November?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And would you even advise much movement in the month
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of November until you figure out exactly what are the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: rules we're going to be playing by going forward?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so hard to really predict what it's going
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: to look like. Maybe you take a risk and maybe
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: you feel like you could jump ahead on it. If
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you feel like there is something that will get patched
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: up that you can take advantage of before that happens,
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  Speaker 3: then you go ahead and do that. But then you risk...
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  Speaker 3: Like what? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even just... I don't have anything specific in
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  Speaker 2: my head. Just.
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  Speaker 1: Like we're going to go crazy spending in November because
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: we're sure there's going to be revenue sharing and a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: salary cap and then there's not.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. And it's very unlike the Mariners to be in
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: that aspect, at least that side of the spectrum. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't expect them to do anything. I honestly don't
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  Speaker 3: even expect them to hire a manager before that point.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're going to wait a while because if
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I remember correctly, managers can't even talk to players during
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  Speaker 3: work stoppages. There's going to be a whole nother layer
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: to all of this. Even current managers can't talk to
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: current players during the lockout. So I don't expect them
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  Speaker 3: to really jump on anything until there's at least some
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: sort of clarity on the situation. And then you have
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  Speaker 3: to think about, OK, even when they do finally come
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  Speaker 3: to an agreement, how long do they give for free
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: agent signings, new coaches to sign, etc.? arbitration agreements to happen.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff that needs to be done
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  Speaker 3: before the season can actually start.
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  Speaker 1: I think 1,000% will have a manager before December 2nd.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about it because you're
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going to spend that month trying to figure out the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: structures and the philosophies that the new manager wants to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: bring to the table. And then that will filter down
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: into your minor leagues, which will continue. Your major leaguers
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: can't participate. So you're going to want to use that
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: as much time as you have in that month to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: try to establish what the new philosophy is, how the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: organization wants to continue, the type of players that manager
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: feels best managing. I don't think there will be any movement.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there will be any player movement until
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they know what the rules are going to be going forward.
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  Speaker 1: But absolutely, they're going to plan on there being a season,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: whether it's shortened or not, and they're going to want
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to get out ahead of that with whatever new manager comes.
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  Speaker 2: They want to choose.
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  Speaker 1: I think we'll find out the new manager about 12
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  Speaker 1: seconds after the world series. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be pleasantly surprised if that was the case.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, I don't, I don't think there's any
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  Speaker 2: doubt about that.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, all right.
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  Speaker 2: T is for trade target.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Anders and I brought this up yesterday and man,
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  Speaker 1: it got you all thinking, didn't it? Cause I got
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of reaction, uh, to this, uh, yesterday, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it's a, it's a really fascinating kind of topic. But
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: last night, Ronald Acuna, who we brought up yesterday, should
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: this be a Mariners trade target in the offseason? Well,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: he finished his season going 115 in an elimination series,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: one for 15 against the Dodgers. He finished the season
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: getting booed by the Atlanta Braves fan base. He finished
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the season with another possible injury, which has haunted him
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  Speaker 1: his entire career. He's not even out of his 20s.
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  Speaker 1: He's only had two healthy seasons. Remember, he came into
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the league at 19. He's only had two healthy seasons,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: full healthy seasons in his entire major league career.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So he ends the season.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Again limping, and his limping was read as laziness or
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: not caring by a fan base that has had.
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  Speaker 2: Its fill of Ronald Acuna.
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  Speaker 4: And yet.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: He is, when healthy, one of the truly great players
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. And I don't know. I mean,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: at $ 17 million the next two years, team options, by
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the way, would the Mariners look at this as an opportunity?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: If they got the right manager in place that they
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: felt could get to Ronald Acuna Jr., would this be
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the year to go get him? Salary's affordable for John Stanton.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: His trade value's never been lower in his entire life.
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  Speaker 1: His trade value has never been lower than what it's
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: going to be this offseason.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And this team has.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Already stated, we've got to find a right-handed hitter. We're
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: losing Randy Orozarena, and we needed right-handed hitters before we
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: lost Randy Orozarena. So we need a right-handed hitter, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: yet with him comes all sorts of headaches that drive
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: about 75% of every fan base absolutely mad when they're
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: not sure if the guy cares about.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Winning or not.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Well, that's Ronald Acuna, and it made it worse when
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he showed you how much he cared about winning the WBC,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and now Braves fans everywhere know You don't really care
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: if you win for the Atlanta Braves, and that's what
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you'd be adopting. But he is an incredible talent, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I got in everybody's heads. Everybody's thinking about it overnight,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe it's naivety, but I'm always one to
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: take the risk and play the upside and think that— Well,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: that's just it.
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  Speaker 2: $ 17 million, pretty worthwhile risk. That's low compared to what
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you could get.
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  Speaker 3: He makes less than Josh Naylor next year.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Josh Naylor makes $ 17. 3 million next year. So I think
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it's absolutely worth the risk because, A, if it's a
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: complete disaster, he can get out of it. B, I think, honestly,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: a change of scenery would do him well. Yeah, I agree.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: He has to leave Atlanta. And I think the right
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: manager would do him well. It has to be someone
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: that he respects and is somewhat connected in that culture.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Speak Spanish probably would be a good thing.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I think someone like that, talent-wise, is a perfect addition
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: for this Mariners team. But there are a lot of
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: question marks as well. I acknowledge that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's why it's a.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's something we can spend the entire offseason on, frankly.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And the thing you threw out yesterday was George Kirby
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: for Ronald Acuna right now. Both have.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, both have two years left of control.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I threw that off the air. Yeah. I don't think
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we said that on there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I was mixing up our conversations, but that's cool. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I do that.
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  Speaker 3: You do that?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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