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The Bolt Report | 19 August · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Is the gold reported tonight the Environment Minister kills off
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Speaker 1: a gold mine because of secret Aboriginal business that local
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Speaker 1: Averaging says actually fake. And the classical pianist who lectured
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Speaker 1: as Melbourne audience about evil Israel has now put the
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Speaker 1: Melbourne Symphony Orchestra in danger. Also tonight, another Christian priest
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Speaker 1: sled by a Muslim extremist allegedly, Plus the fascal Colombian
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Speaker 1: tour of Prince Harran Mega Markel how it went wrong,
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Speaker 1: And of course the opening of the Democratic Convention will
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Speaker 1: kame La Harris stab President Joe Biden in the back again.
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Speaker 1: We'll also finished with surprise news about Britney Higgins. But first,
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Speaker 1: and before we get to Peter Dutton and the Albanizer
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Speaker 1: government's attempts today to gaslight him and Miriam as a racist,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about racism, real racism, the racial apartheid pushed
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Speaker 1: by Labor as a matter of policy years ago. Labor
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Speaker 1: did know what racism was. It fought the apartheid in
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Speaker 1: South Africa where you got signs like this non white shop,
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Speaker 1: the shop for just blacks and Indians. They were allowed
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Speaker 1: in shops for whites. Well, last week of viewers saw
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Speaker 1: a sign just like that in Canberra under the Labor
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Speaker 1: Greens Act government and under the Albanezy government too. It
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Speaker 1: was this sign at the Canberra Hospital Aboriginal on Tarres
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Speaker 1: Strait Island, a lounge for Aborigines only. Why why are
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Speaker 1: we separating people by race like this in a public
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Speaker 1: hospital for all Australians of all races, paid for by
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Speaker 1: Australians of all races. Now it gets even worse or
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Speaker 1: more fascal this public hospital. Camera Hospital also offers an
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Speaker 1: apartheid menu just for Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders. There
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Speaker 1: is kangaroo stew, for instance, and Barron munday in sweet
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Speaker 1: chili sauce with cream, potatoes and vegetables, which actually doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound quite Aboriginal to me. The hospital says this menu
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Speaker 1: is available to people who identify as being Aboriginal and
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Speaker 1: or Torrest Strait Islander. For Whites and Asians. You've got
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Speaker 1: to ask the staff to get it. Now, How on
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Speaker 1: earth does the Acit Labor government and the alban Easy
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Speaker 1: Labor government justify funding this apartheid, this kind of state racism,
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Speaker 1: to divide us by race, to care for us by race,
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Speaker 1: even to feed us by race. If you're concerned about racism,
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Speaker 1: be concerned about this. But now to fake racism, the
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Speaker 1: smearing of opposition leader it had done to hide the
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Speaker 1: recklessly incompetent way the Albanizer government brought in refugees from
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Speaker 1: terrorists run Gaza. Now last week we learned that this
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Speaker 1: government issued nearly three thousand visas to Palestinians from Gaza,
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Speaker 1: which is run by the Hamas terrorist group. And there's
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Speaker 1: lots of support in Gaza for Hamas, more than half. Now.
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Speaker 1: No Western country has given anywhere near the same number
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Speaker 1: of visas. Most have given none at all because of
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Speaker 1: the security risk. This government not only gave three thousand visas,
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Speaker 1: most incredibly, it gave them without interviewing any of these Palestinians.
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Speaker 1: Now crucially, asiosposts indicated it hadn't checked all these refugees either,
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Speaker 1: had let them in thirteen hundred to here already even
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Speaker 1: if they said they supported Hamas. Unbelievable. And yesterday we
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Speaker 1: learned that the government rushed in these refugees on tourism
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Speaker 1: visas quite deliberately, because tourism visas require much less checking.
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Speaker 2: Why visit of visus though, because they're faster the process,
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Speaker 2: refugee visas take longer, and given what's happening right now
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Speaker 2: and the dangers presented, the view was to try and
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Speaker 2: get people out as quickly as you can.
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Speaker 1: Now today this scandal deepened. We learn this government seems
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Speaker 1: not to have asked the Asia beforehand it was actually
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Speaker 1: smart to bring in people from a terrorists enclave on
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Speaker 1: just tourist visas. The Prime Minister wouldn't give a direct answer.
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Speaker 2: Was security advice sought from Asio before the government made
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Speaker 2: the unprecedented decision to grant tourist visas to people from the.
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Speaker 3: Gars or war zone.
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Speaker 4: No matter where a person comes from or what visa
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Speaker 4: their help. Our security agencies are involved in the process
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Speaker 4: and we trust their expertise.
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Speaker 1: Now. This government also refused today to say if any
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Speaker 1: of the thirteen hundred Palastini refugees that it seems brought
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Speaker 1: in later had their visas canceled on security grounds. The
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Speaker 1: Immigration Minister faked hot anger to distract voters from the
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Speaker 1: cold facts.
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Speaker 5: He's the minister aware of any concerns from security or
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Speaker 5: intelligence agencies about any of the thirteen hundred people who
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Speaker 5: have arrived in Australia from the Gaza war zone.
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Speaker 6: If I could understand the question he's asking, just here
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Speaker 6: in the privacy of question time, where no one else
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Speaker 6: is listening, just between you and me, Let's have a
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Speaker 6: conversation about national security, conversation in Asias information. No, if
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Speaker 6: you want to be irresponsible, that's on you.
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Speaker 1: Now ignore the bluster. What you saw is a government
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Speaker 1: that thinks you are not to know, not even allowed
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Speaker 1: to know, or even ask if it's brought in a
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Speaker 1: terrorist risk risk and you got to ask them, what
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Speaker 1: else isn't it telling you? And then came this answer
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Speaker 1: from the Prime Minister, which some journals seemed to think
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Speaker 1: was a gotcha. You know, hey, the former coalition government
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Speaker 1: he did the same.
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Speaker 3: Can the Prime Minister confirm that no other government in
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Speaker 3: Australian history has brought people from a war zone controlled
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Speaker 3: by a listed terrorist organization on tourism visa on a
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Speaker 3: tourist visa without the requisite checks and balances that would
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Speaker 3: normally be conducted on a refugee and humanitarian visa.
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Speaker 4: During their time in office, they issued more than one
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Speaker 4: thousand visitor visas two Palestinians from the occupied Palestinian territory
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Speaker 4: life during that entire time Hamask controlled the Gaza strip,
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Speaker 4: their hypocrisy is just extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: Now that's actually a big giveaway. I mean, how mun
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Speaker 1: Easy is saying he's given three thousand tourist visas to
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Speaker 1: Palestinians from Hamasram Gaza in just nine months. The past
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Speaker 1: coalition governments gave one thousand visas, just one third of
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Speaker 1: them in nine years. What's more, all Albanese's three thousand
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Speaker 1: visas went to terrorists run Gaza. The coalition's one thousand
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Speaker 1: visas also went to many Palestinians the more populated West Bank,
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Speaker 1: which is not under her mask control. And then this
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Speaker 1: is what Albanizi didn't say. He didn't say how many
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Speaker 1: of the Palastinians the coalition government had led in were
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Speaker 1: first interviewed, had proper checks from Asia, had sponsors in
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Speaker 1: Australia posted a bomb that was a part of the scheme,
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Speaker 1: because about none of the ones Albanese let in were
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Speaker 1: checked like that. Now the government today had no answers. Instead,
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Speaker 1: it abused Peter Dunton for saying that until there were
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Speaker 1: proper checks which would take in no refugees from Gaza,
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Speaker 1: just like almost every other country.
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Speaker 6: The leader of the opposition has moved this motion today
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Speaker 6: because the man.
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Speaker 3: Is irresponsible and a silk.
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Speaker 7: It was Paul get smart.
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Speaker 1: Members of my opposition, oh that childish use. It's also
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Speaker 1: included claims that Dutton is racist. The independent MP statistical
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Speaker 1: started at SMEA last week. Dutton is now considering suing
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Speaker 1: and taking legal advice. Now, the Prime Minister today didn't
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Speaker 1: dare call Dutton a racist directly himself, but he was
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Speaker 1: courageous enough to imply it.
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Speaker 7: Do you think he's racist?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think Petter Dutton is deeply divisive.
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Speaker 1: So there you go to Labor. This now is what
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Speaker 1: real racism is. It's not separating people by race even
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Speaker 1: in the public hospital and giving them different food by race.
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Speaker 1: No racism now is when someone dares to say that
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Speaker 1: Labor is crazy letting him people from terrorists enclothes without
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Speaker 1: proper checks, even when they say yes, we support terrorists.
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Speaker 1: What a government joined me is the panel Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 1: former Victorian Liberal President Steve Conroy Formula desented and Cabinet
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Speaker 1: minister now Michael for me, the bottom alone is this
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Speaker 1: government is letting in even people from Gaza, which is
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Speaker 1: terrorists run who say they support the Islamist terror group
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Speaker 1: that runs it. How on earth we forget all the
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Speaker 1: other blusts that how on earth could that be in
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Speaker 1: any way acceptable? It's not.
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Speaker 8: And that's why one hundred and eighty nine countries around
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Speaker 8: the world have refused to take any and I put
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Speaker 8: out some statistics last week on Sky and haven't been contradicted.
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Speaker 8: There's only four countries that have taken these refugees. We've
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Speaker 8: issued three thousand visas. The next is Canna on forty one.
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Speaker 8: So the other reason, and you know, this might burgesse
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Speaker 8: everyone speaks well of I mean, I'm sorry if mister
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Speaker 8: Burgess thinks it's acceptable to allow people into this country
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Speaker 8: who support Hamas even though they're not donors or you know, combatants,
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Speaker 8: I fundamentally disagree with that. You know, one hundred and
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Speaker 8: eighty nine security chief in other countries around the world
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Speaker 8: don't agree with Burgess. They don't want these people in
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Speaker 8: the risk that the people will come in who support
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Speaker 8: Hamas and more potentially. The other thing is this, Andrew.
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Speaker 8: The other reason why Albanezi should not be taking any
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Speaker 8: refugees from Gaza is this.
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Speaker 1: These people, for the whole of.
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Speaker 8: Their lives wrongly but these people, for the whole of
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Speaker 8: their lives have been indocrinated to hate Jews, from school
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Speaker 8: to university, the whole of their life. In Gaza, from childhood,
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Speaker 8: you are taught to hate Jewish people.
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Speaker 1: And so whether people.
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Speaker 8: Coming here hamas militants or just adherents or not involved
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Speaker 8: at all, they come here with a predilection to hate
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Speaker 8: Jewish people. And that's one reason why mister Burgess's, mister
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Speaker 8: Albineasi have almost no friends worldwide and no one agrees
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Speaker 8: with what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: Well, actually, I'm sure that there are some that don't
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Speaker 1: have that predisposition to hate Jews. I'm sure that some
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Speaker 1: have resisted the propaganda. I mean, it's got to be
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Speaker 1: the case I would have imagined. But Stephen, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the most fascical things today was seeing the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister site one refugee who had come here in
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Speaker 1: an earlier intake, saying that she said, oh, look, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't hate and all that, I'm here for peace
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Speaker 1: and taking a word for it. That's all very well,
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Speaker 1: but is that you know where labor is now that
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Speaker 1: it simply accepts the untested word of someone saying coming
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Speaker 1: peace and that's enough.
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Speaker 9: Look, I think there's been two missteps in the last week.
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Speaker 9: The first and I am a supporter, and I think
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Speaker 9: he does an excellent job managing difficult circumstances, and he
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Speaker 9: tries to give all politicians from all political parties to.
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Speaker 1: Tone the rhetoric down.
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Speaker 9: But I think it was a mythstep to suggest that
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Speaker 9: you can express support for an organization that believes in
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Speaker 9: the eradication of the state of Israel. That's not consistent
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Speaker 9: with either party's position on two state solution. And I
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Speaker 9: think to try and be able to see inside the
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Speaker 9: mind and define the difference between someone who are expressing
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Speaker 9: support for Hamas express support for Palestinian state, not an
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Speaker 9: issue that's a worldwide unifying position. And when I say Palasini,
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Speaker 9: I mean two states solution, which is why I was
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Speaker 9: always disappointed to see the Israeli parliaments expressing a different
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Speaker 9: point of view towards a two state solution. I accept
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Speaker 9: all the arguments back on and forwards, but that's got
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Speaker 9: to be your fundamental preference, that is the only actual solution.
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Speaker 9: The second misstep, and I.
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Speaker 1: Definitely agree with you, absolutely correct, But can I ask
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Speaker 1: you something what was going through Burgess's mode. It's not
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Speaker 1: like he he you know, this is the head of ASIO,
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Speaker 1: that he misspoke or something isn't correct or I said,
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Speaker 1: we will let the mean even if they support him
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Speaker 1: US and worse, the immigration mister didn't contradict them. The
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister directly didn't contradict him. This seems to have
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Speaker 1: been a deliberate policy. Can you I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: Can you explain it to me how?
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Speaker 9: Because I think I think I think it was a
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Speaker 9: misstep by Mike Burgess.
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Speaker 1: It's a policy. It's a policy. That's what I'm worried about.
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Speaker 9: But if I could make if I could make the
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Speaker 9: make the second point, the second misstep, and I think
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Speaker 9: I was disappointed. You airbrush this too lightly, Andrew pet
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Speaker 9: It didn't made a misstep by saying never take anybody.
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Speaker 9: He's qualifying it a bit. Now.
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Speaker 1: You know, I.
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Speaker 9: Didn't say an eath until after security checks. But no,
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Speaker 9: he no, I think you're airbrushing. You go back, get
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Speaker 9: his quotes, get the tape and he said, no, no
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Speaker 9: one Okay. I think that was an overstep. I think
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Speaker 9: if he'd have confined himself with an argument about Burgess's
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Speaker 9: definition about you know, visus has got to be follow
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Speaker 9: a proper process. I think he was in a much
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Speaker 9: stronger position. I think he's now flailed a little bit,
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Speaker 9: and he's now trying to do a bit of distraction
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Speaker 9: as well. So I think they're the two main missteps.
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Speaker 9: The government's decision to you.
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Speaker 1: And hang on, hang on. But the context was even
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Speaker 1: the situation we find ourselves in, the inability to do interviews,
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Speaker 1: et cetera, don't take them in. And he then became
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Speaker 1: more explicit and said don't take them in for now.
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Speaker 1: While this is the thing is, even if you thought
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Speaker 1: he overstepped, he's got to a position that is totally justifiable.
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Speaker 1: This government has not said, by the way, we won't
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Speaker 1: take in supporters. It hasn't resolved from that position. Michael,
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Speaker 1: this is this is what gets me. I don't understand
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Speaker 1: it unless it is that this government doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: offend some Muslim groups. I mean, there are many Wilslims
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Speaker 1: that will be outrage that we're bringing in terrorism supporters.
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Speaker 1: But what is going through his mind? I do not
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Speaker 1: get this. Well, well you know that.
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Speaker 8: Hence, mister Burgess, I doubt, I doubt, I doubt his
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Speaker 8: decision making. I mean, if that's what he thinks. What
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Speaker 8: if someone says they're a Nazi supporter they add into
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Speaker 8: Australia on character grounds. If someone says I support the
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Speaker 8: guessing of Jews, you know I'm not involved in the
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Speaker 8: Nazi Party, but I support the ideology of Adolf Hitler.
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Speaker 8: If if someone says I support isis the beheadings of
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Speaker 8: Westerns in those orange jumpsuits. I support that, but I'm
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Speaker 8: not I'm not. I don't you know, I'm not active.
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Speaker 8: Is that acceptable on character grounds, mister Burgess, None of
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Speaker 8: those groups should be allowed into it, and none of
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Speaker 8: those people should be allowed into Australian If you think
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Speaker 8: they are, you are way out of your depth, my friend.
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Speaker 8: Despite the eulogizing of view by Peter Dutton and at
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Speaker 8: the alb and he's in Stephen Connery, if that's what
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Speaker 8: you think, well, I think you're odds with the overwhelm
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Speaker 8: majority of Australian people.
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Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is just so utterly bizarre
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Speaker 1: and inexplicable. Unless this is outrageous pandering to extremists here,
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Speaker 1: I do not understand it. Stephen. This goes to the
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Speaker 1: latest freshwater pole that's been done the Coalition is ahead
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Speaker 1: of Labor after preferences now fifty one percent to forty
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Speaker 1: nine the Coalition leads, but especially on national security. I
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Speaker 1: know cost of living is number one issue, but in
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Speaker 1: this poll, forty four percent of people said the Coalition
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Speaker 1: was better on national security, Labor just twenty four percent.
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Speaker 1: Nearly half the Coalition support there. This is not a
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Speaker 1: hawk government that never seemed weak on national security. What
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Speaker 1: has gone wrong?
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Speaker 9: No, I think that Labor's vision on national security in
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Speaker 9: the broader you know region that we live is very strong.
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Speaker 9: We have stood up to China's bullying, as did the
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Speaker 9: Morrison government and before them. Turble eventually worked it out
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Speaker 9: that he was trying to pass an extradition treaty which.
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Speaker 1: Just to save them doing conditioning.
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Speaker 9: Yes, but let's be clear, I think Morrison did a
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Speaker 9: good job of standing.
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Speaker 1: Up, perhaps too vocal. We could argue about that all day.
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Speaker 9: I think we've got a better balance than Morrison was
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Speaker 9: able to do. We've had a restore trade, which is
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Speaker 9: important to our country, important to our farmers, important to our.
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Speaker 1: National position.
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Speaker 9: But we've also not budged from the criticisms on the
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Speaker 9: cyber attacks. We've not budged from the criticisms and the
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Speaker 9: need to have a greater American presence around our country
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Speaker 9: while we continue to build up our defense expenditure. We've
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Speaker 9: carried Aucust through again Morrison deserves credit for this, and
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Speaker 9: we are building on those.
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Speaker 1: Well they're not going. Look though, it's not bisy daying
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Speaker 1: what Stephen's saying, and I'm banned to what he said.
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Speaker 1: Hang on the Albanize the government, we're very soft twice
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Speaker 1: on at tax on our military by China and did
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Speaker 1: not Albanis, he did not confront them.
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Speaker 8: We Albanese's central problem is that he promised step it Abe.
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Speaker 8: Albanize's central problem and is he promised well beyond his
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Speaker 8: capacity to deliver. He promised everything, and that's what means
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Speaker 8: he's warned against when he was when he was Prime minister,
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Speaker 8: he promised everything. Their Aboriginal community, Well, how's that going
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Speaker 8: in a macart? No, it's never a commission. We were
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Speaker 8: just having a bit of a chin wag. He promised
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Speaker 8: the Jewish community things he promised the Islarman community. Things
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Speaker 8: he promised the whole country. He had across the living plan. Look,
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Speaker 8: the bottom line is if an election is held tomorrow.
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Speaker 8: I've got Dutton on seventy one seats and Albanezi on
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Speaker 8: sixty seven, and I include seats like Bullwinkle in Western Australia.
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Speaker 8: Even though it's a three point three percent swing to
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Speaker 8: the Liberals needed there was a ten and a half
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Speaker 8: percent swinging. It's a coalition at the last election, so
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Speaker 8: that's going to Labor. I've got no haper winning Bullwinkle,
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Speaker 8: so I think Dutton's now for clear of Albany is
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Speaker 8: the question is Kenny cobble together win any more seats
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Speaker 8: and then cobble together enough to get to seventy six.
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Speaker 8: But all what we know at this stage is this
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Speaker 8: Andrew there ain't going to be in an earlier election
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Speaker 8: this year to spital those geniuses saying that the would be.
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Speaker 8: And things are only getting worse for Albanigi. They are
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Speaker 8: not improving. He's cost of living in national security. Cost
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Speaker 8: of living in national security is losing interest rates.
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Speaker 9: If that doesn't Michael knows better out of time, But
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Speaker 9: Michael knows extraplated a national poll, but a rubbish number,
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Speaker 9: and Michael knows it. It's putting lipstick on the pig,
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Speaker 9: not a rubb.
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Speaker 8: Go through the steat, Stephen, we'll go through the seats.
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Speaker 8: I've got a list here at four minutes seats that's
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Speaker 8: going to win for a start.
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Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's make a deal next week.
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Speaker 1: We'll do that. Michael Krogis even thanks to you both.
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Speaker 1: Now listen, I got to ask, what is some of
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Speaker 1: these pro Palasian protests? I mean, why are some of
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Speaker 1: them so rude? So many of them actually in people's faces,
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Speaker 1: some of them such bullies. Now it's not just the
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Speaker 1: ugly protests we've seen. It's not as artist they were
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Speaker 1: calling Peter Dutton a racist and all this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Here's another example. There's now tearing apartment of our top
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Speaker 1: orchestras of Melbourne Symphony, the MSO Melbourne of the Austria
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Speaker 1: had a pianist, Jason Gillen, Sunday week ago interrupt his
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Speaker 1: recitals tell us audience that Israel was guilty of war
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Speaker 1: crimes that had killed more than one hundred journalists in
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Speaker 1: Gaza in ten months, including through targeted assassination. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: Israel thanas that although it did say that did there
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Speaker 1: was one so called journals that did assassinate. But he
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Speaker 1: was actually a member of Hamas, who'd taken part in
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Speaker 1: the octobers of massacre. Whatever a lecture on Israel's supposed
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Speaker 1: crimes is not what the audience of a piano cons
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Speaker 1: paid to come here. They paid to hear a concert
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Speaker 1: of Beethoven of Chopin, not to mention. There's no mention
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Speaker 1: in the program at all, by the way of any
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Speaker 1: lectures on Israel. And if this pianists really wanted people
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Speaker 1: to hear them smear Israel, they should have just said,
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Speaker 1: and listen, I'm going to give a lecture. You know,
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Speaker 1: I tried to sell tickets to that. Instead said this
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Speaker 1: was a con. This was hijacking the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra
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Speaker 1: stage to hector a captive audience, and not surprisingly, audience
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Speaker 1: members can plain in the MSO freaked it would know.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the Sydney Theater Company lost one and a
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Speaker 1: half million dollars when sponsors and subscribe as boycotted it
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Speaker 1: at a protest in protest that three actors had wore
21:39
Speaker 1: Palestinian scarves at a curtain call after the proormans of
21:42
Speaker 1: Chekhov and this pianists had actually gone much further, so
21:45
Speaker 1: the MSO apologized, canceled, gillams second concert, but the orchestra's
21:49
Speaker 1: players they went bulshes and the management's damaging their reputation
21:53
Speaker 1: and demanded two bosses be sacked for infringing a Gillam's
21:57
Speaker 1: free speech since they really do want to offend their audience.
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Speaker 1: It's joining me is the country's top foreign affairs for
22:03
Speaker 1: Rudi Grig Sheridan the Australian newspaper. Greg, Look, people are
22:05
Speaker 1: getting sick of being lectured about politics, even at the football,
22:09
Speaker 1: little at a piano concert. I mean, how arrogant and
22:12
Speaker 1: ill informed of these musicians.
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Speaker 10: Now, well, that's right, Andrew, and I agree with you. Yeah,
22:20
Speaker 10: I just think it's ridiculous, just absurd. They're just in
22:24
Speaker 10: the wrong business. They want to get into politics, get
22:27
Speaker 10: into politics.
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Speaker 1: Silly, silly to do that. Yeah, but they're all going
22:33
Speaker 1: so far. Greg, And now the accusations of Peter Dutton
22:37
Speaker 1: is a racist for wanting to stop people coming in
22:40
Speaker 1: from a refuge from a terrorist enclave run by Hamas,
22:46
Speaker 1: which perpetrated those horrible massacres that started this war in
22:50
Speaker 1: a place where about half the people there by opinion
22:54
Speaker 1: polls say they support Hamas. What Hamas did? How can
22:59
Speaker 1: that be racist to say let's have proper checks of
23:01
Speaker 1: these people.
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Speaker 10: Well, you're absolutely right, Andrew, it's not remotely racist. And indeed,
23:08
Speaker 10: I think the opposition would be derelict in its national
23:11
Speaker 10: duty if it didn't force the government to clear this up.
23:15
Speaker 10: So Mike Burgess, for whom I have always had a
23:18
Speaker 10: great admiration, made really a profoundly strange statement in response
23:23
Speaker 10: to repeated questioning from David Spears. He said, David Spears said,
23:27
Speaker 10: some degree of rhetorical support for Hamas would be okay
23:31
Speaker 10: for someone seeking to come into Australia, would it, And
23:34
Speaker 10: Burgess agreed with him and said, yes, some rhetorical supports,
23:38
Speaker 10: so long as they didn't support Hamas's ideology. Now god
23:43
Speaker 10: alone knows what that could possibly mean, or what a
23:46
Speaker 10: security agency could possibly do to discern someone's mind so
23:50
Speaker 10: that they gave rhetorical support. Now, Hammas is not only
23:54
Speaker 10: dedicated to the distraction of Israel. Its charter is full
23:58
Speaker 10: of the most sickening, disgusting traditional anti Semitism, the demonization
24:04
Speaker 10: of Jews. And when the Hummas murderers killed Jewish civilians,
24:08
Speaker 10: raped the women, and mutilated the children, they ran home
24:11
Speaker 10: and said, hey, mam aa't I a good boy. I
24:13
Speaker 10: killed some Jews today. Now this statement from Burgess cannot
24:17
Speaker 10: be left unchallenged. What on earth does it mean? The
24:21
Speaker 10: government cannot treat Burgess as though he is a divine
24:24
Speaker 10: authority whose words are at the same time infallible, beyond
24:28
Speaker 10: scrutiny and beyond question. The opposition is perfectly entitled. In fact,
24:33
Speaker 10: they are duty bound to seek a clarification of this.
24:38
Speaker 10: I've been a journalist for more than forty five years.
24:40
Speaker 10: I've never heard a government official or minister say some
24:43
Speaker 10: degree of support for a terrorist organization is okay when
24:48
Speaker 10: you're applying to come to Australia. Now, probably might just misspoke.
24:52
Speaker 10: That'd be perfectly okay if you come out the next
24:54
Speaker 10: day and said that was pretty dumb. I didn't mean
24:56
Speaker 10: to say that. That was a mistake. Here's another lesson, though,
25:00
Speaker 10: Directors General should stop all this chundering in public, give
25:05
Speaker 10: a speech once a year, take some written questions, and
25:08
Speaker 10: otherwise shut up. It's up to the government to prosecute
25:12
Speaker 10: these issues, not the security bosses.
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Speaker 1: I've got to disagree with you. I am grateful that
25:19
Speaker 1: he spoke up with Greg because otherwise we would never
25:21
Speaker 1: have known that the head of Asia actually thinks terrorism supporters,
25:25
Speaker 1: rhetorical supporters are allowed in this country. I mean, I
25:29
Speaker 1: find that just incredible. And what's even worse, as you say,
25:32
Speaker 1: he could have cleared it up, and you're quite correct,
25:34
Speaker 1: but the government actually didn't clear it up and seemed
25:38
Speaker 1: to condone what he had said for what is it
25:41
Speaker 1: a whole week and a bit. Now this is the
25:44
Speaker 1: chilling bit. But listen before we go, I want to
25:47
Speaker 1: get to some big picture stuff. The Democrat Convention in
25:50
Speaker 1: the United States is starting now right now, it's going
25:55
Speaker 1: to you know, it's being held to back Kamala Harris
25:57
Speaker 1: formally for president star speaker in day one. It's going
26:00
Speaker 1: to be the man. Later tonight, she pushed out his candidate,
26:02
Speaker 1: President Joe Barden, which could be awkward since the mass
26:05
Speaker 1: is now trying to commit a huge fraud, talking as
26:07
Speaker 1: if the cost of living christ is under Buden is
26:10
Speaker 1: very real and nothing to do with her, even though
26:12
Speaker 1: she's been Biden's vice president of the past three and
26:15
Speaker 1: a half years.
26:16
Speaker 5: This year is everyday prices are too high.
26:20
Speaker 11: It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead.
26:23
Speaker 1: This is just bizarre shape shifting. Greg that certainly, which
26:28
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to treat her as someone that's going to fix,
26:30
Speaker 1: which is part of having cause. Yeah.
26:34
Speaker 10: So the Democrats I think have been very effective in
26:39
Speaker 10: changing their leader in the way that Australian governments do
26:42
Speaker 10: a lot. You know, the Liberals assassinated Abbott and put
26:47
Speaker 10: in Turnbull. Assassinated Turnbull and put in Morrison and indeed
26:49
Speaker 10: won the subsequent elections. Labor assassinated run and put in Gillard.
26:53
Speaker 10: I didn't think it could be done in the American system,
26:56
Speaker 10: but it has been done. She will be I think
26:58
Speaker 10: if she wins a terror president on the basis of
27:01
Speaker 10: everything she said. However, you must also say it's unbelievable
27:06
Speaker 10: that Trump has campaigned against her so ineffectively. All he
27:10
Speaker 10: does is call her names instead of tethering her to
27:13
Speaker 10: Biden's record. I mean when Reagan, when Ronald Reagan was
27:16
Speaker 10: running against Walda Mondale, he called him Carter Mondale in
27:20
Speaker 10: order to make him where he had. Mondale had been
27:22
Speaker 10: Carter's vice president. He made him where Carter's terrible policies.
27:27
Speaker 10: So why doesn't Trump just call her California Kumala or Biden?
27:30
Speaker 10: Harris talk about the Biden Harris ticket or something like that.
27:34
Speaker 10: And on the issues and on Biden's record, of which
27:38
Speaker 10: she is fully a part, she should lose, and she
27:41
Speaker 10: still might. But so far the Republic, the media, of course,
27:44
Speaker 10: has given her a dream run. But in my opinion,
27:48
Speaker 10: Trump has campaigned against her very ineffectively so far.
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Speaker 1: I love your suggestion. I'm up with that to Sean
27:55
Speaker 1: Spie tomorrow. Let's see if it filters up to the President.
27:59
Speaker 1: Greg Share and thank you so much indeed for your time.
28:03
Speaker 1: After they break the environment minister kills off a gold
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Speaker 1: project because of secret aboriginal business that local averages say
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Speaker 1: it's false. Why she done? It's it's almost like labor
28:18
Speaker 1: really wants to destroy business in this country. I mean
28:22
Speaker 1: once the sacrifice business, not just the unions, but to
28:25
Speaker 1: its two great anti development crusades, global warming, aboriginal rights.
28:31
Speaker 1: The latest example labor has used suppose secret aboriginal business
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Speaker 1: to kill a gold mate. Environment ministers Tenia plipc's vetoed
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Speaker 1: a crucial Taming's dam for a mine in New South
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Speaker 1: Wales outside Orange, saying local aboriges were against it for reasons.
28:48
Speaker 1: She said, well, the confidential, the secret, it's supposedly some
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Speaker 1: sort of sacred site, there's a dreaming or something like that.
28:54
Speaker 1: But don't worry. She said that damn could be built
28:57
Speaker 1: somewhere else in the month, could then still go ahead. Well,
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Speaker 1: two things about that. The first is what sacred site?
29:04
Speaker 1: What local Aborigines. In fact, the Orange Local Aboriginal Land
29:09
Speaker 1: Council says it's not against the mine going ahead, and
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Speaker 1: the fifteen Aboriginals or so who are against set are
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Speaker 1: from another tribe. And the Orange group says, well, look
29:21
Speaker 1: they're just trying to hijack the project. Who knows it's
29:24
Speaker 1: all secret. We're not allowed to know what sort of
29:26
Speaker 1: disruption this will be. And the company says Plivosec is
29:30
Speaker 1: not correct. It's actually told the Sock Exchange today that
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Speaker 1: Minister pib Secu stated this declaration will not stop the mind.
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Speaker 1: To the contrary, this decision does impact a critical area
29:41
Speaker 1: of the project development site and means the mine is
29:43
Speaker 1: not viable. This is a toll plibar sect all this.
29:47
Speaker 1: So if that's true, if that's the final word, that's
29:50
Speaker 1: possibly goodbye to five hundred and twenty construction jobs, two
29:54
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety permanent jobs, as well as two hundred
29:57
Speaker 1: million dollars in taxes and royalties. The Opposition's Environment spokesman,
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Speaker 1: Senator Jonathan Dunningham, a Senator, what a pleasure to see
30:06
Speaker 1: you again, Tan you Plase says this mind's damn is
30:10
Speaker 1: in some sort of sacred heritage site and can't go ahead.
30:14
Speaker 1: She can't tell us why secret business should it go ahead?
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Speaker 12: Well, honestly, we've got an economy that's tanking, we've got
30:24
Speaker 12: Australian struggle, struggling with a cost of living crisis. I
30:28
Speaker 12: would have thought any project that brings in extra revenue
30:31
Speaker 12: hundreds of millions of dollars every year and eight hundred
30:35
Speaker 12: jobs for locals to have, then it should go ahead.
30:39
Speaker 12: The spurious reasons that have been given, the secrecy around
30:43
Speaker 12: this does beg the question. The fact of the matter
30:45
Speaker 12: is balance is lacking from the Minister's decision making here,
30:49
Speaker 12: and I really do think we need to have a
30:51
Speaker 12: closer look and perhaps get the Minister to reconsider. It's
30:55
Speaker 12: not the right decision for our country and certainly a
30:57
Speaker 12: bad one for our economy and Australians depend on these jobs.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be a lot of cynicism about this.
31:05
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not the first time you saw,
31:07
Speaker 1: of course, a dias development in Northern Territory where the
31:11
Speaker 1: where a judge rule that someone was telling Porky's you know,
31:16
Speaker 1: stretching the truth about sacred sites, et cetera, et cetera.
31:19
Speaker 1: This Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council says, the dam's fine.
31:24
Speaker 1: The other group there were Aguali Traditional Owners, Central West
31:27
Speaker 1: Original Corporation. Wow, what a name. They'll kick printers in
31:30
Speaker 1: ink says sacred song lines run through the site. I'm
31:34
Speaker 1: not saying they're wrong about this or fraud or whatever.
31:36
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a huge difference here, and these
31:41
Speaker 1: sacred song lines apparently weren't known to New South Wales
31:45
Speaker 1: environment and Heritage officials. Now. Even if that's true, though,
31:50
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone seriously believes in song lines anymore.
31:53
Speaker 1: Is this a good reason really to kill a mine? Now?
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Speaker 12: Look, I don't think it is. Again, it comes back
32:00
Speaker 12: to balance. As you say, the project had every single
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Speaker 12: state and federal environmental approval. The Orange Aboriginal Land Council
32:10
Speaker 12: backed it in, and they are a group that are
32:12
Speaker 12: recognized as the respected experts in this field. We don't
32:17
Speaker 12: know the basis of the claim. What's more, under this Act,
32:21
Speaker 12: applications like this group that where a jury people have
32:25
Speaker 12: made can be made orally. So how you can make
32:27
Speaker 12: an assessment on an oral application, I don't know. I
32:31
Speaker 12: do know the Government, in trying to deflect from a
32:34
Speaker 12: decision which is going to cost the economy hundreds of
32:36
Speaker 12: millions every year and Australian's eight hundred jobs, tried to
32:41
Speaker 12: point to a decision Susan Lee made in twenty twenty one.
32:44
Speaker 12: Now that was a decision to knock on the head
32:46
Speaker 12: a go kart track in Baptist Regional Council's area, which
32:51
Speaker 12: was so poorly handled, and it was off the back
32:54
Speaker 12: of a petition with ten thousand signatures on it. Frankly,
33:00
Speaker 12: it is no comparison between a decision we made which
33:03
Speaker 12: was about a go kart track and Labor's decision to
33:06
Speaker 12: shut down a mine which would have brought a billion
33:09
Speaker 12: dollars in and created eight hundred jobs. Frankly, it seems
33:12
Speaker 12: like a firfeen. As I say, I think there'll be
33:14
Speaker 12: more to say this week about challenging this decision.
33:19
Speaker 1: Look, I would have thought as soon as you've told
33:21
Speaker 1: about secret business, you know you should your censors should
33:25
Speaker 1: be an alert after the Home Marsh Secret Women's business.
33:29
Speaker 1: Of course, that fiasco. Really this this is twenty first century.
33:34
Speaker 1: I don't know that we should be, you know, indulging
33:37
Speaker 1: in this sort of thing. If these were really genuine
33:42
Speaker 1: sacred sites, I would have thought it'd be known to
33:45
Speaker 1: people around the country, around that part of the country,
33:48
Speaker 1: you know, I just do to pop up now. Wow. Now. Plivacek, though,
33:54
Speaker 1: is still working on a so called nature Positive plan
33:58
Speaker 1: that's going to have even tougher Aboriginal heritage laws given
34:02
Speaker 1: us something like this, do we need them?
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Speaker 12: I've got to tell you these laws that are being
34:09
Speaker 12: dreamt up in a smoke field room somewhere deep in
34:12
Speaker 12: the bowels of Parliament House. I think if today's decision,
34:16
Speaker 12: or the decision around this regis gold Mine, is anything
34:19
Speaker 12: to go by, then anything this government dreams up with
34:22
Speaker 12: regard to laws around environmental approvals is going to be
34:25
Speaker 12: bad for the economy.
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Speaker 1: Today.
34:28
Speaker 12: I asked a question in the Senate about this project,
34:31
Speaker 12: and the response I got pointed to the fact that
34:33
Speaker 12: we need these laws to protect the environment. Where we
34:35
Speaker 12: need these laws to actually facilitate investment to be competitive.
34:40
Speaker 12: When you've got major investors who make decisions about whether
34:44
Speaker 12: they are going to plant a billion dollars worth of
34:46
Speaker 12: investment in Australia or in Papa New Guinea. They're looking
34:51
Speaker 12: at other countries, developing countries and saying, well, there's less
34:54
Speaker 12: sovereign risk there than there is in Australia. That is
34:58
Speaker 12: a concern, and I don't think anything this government dreams
35:01
Speaker 12: up by way of legislation is in any way going
35:03
Speaker 12: to improve that situation. So no, I don't think what
35:07
Speaker 12: Tenure pletus X bringing forward is going to be good.
35:09
Speaker 12: It won't make the situation better here. It'll, in fact,
35:12
Speaker 12: I expect, make it worse.
35:15
Speaker 1: I think a lot of averageal groups have got to
35:17
Speaker 1: recognize that if we want to keep the welfare state
35:20
Speaker 1: up of which bridges are also the beneficiaries, then that's
35:23
Speaker 1: going to be funded somehow. And sometimes most of our
35:28
Speaker 1: money seems to be coming from royalties and developments in
35:31
Speaker 1: minerals et cetera, et cetera, and they're banning them all
35:34
Speaker 1: lot on. Well, I wouldn't mind if they came with
35:37
Speaker 1: a sort of program to cut in benefits, but no.
35:42
Speaker 1: Jonathan Dunhiam, Senator Dunhim, thank you so much inded for
35:44
Speaker 1: your time after the breakhouse. Stralia's longest running strike is
35:49
Speaker 1: destroying businesses. The governments do nothing. I'll talk to one
35:52
Speaker 1: of the victims. There's been surprisingly little coverage. It's probably
36:00
Speaker 1: the longest and nastiest industrial action in the country right
36:03
Speaker 1: now and it's hurting a lot of Australians to talk
36:06
Speaker 1: to one of the victims in a minute for six months.
36:09
Speaker 1: One of the country's most radical unions, the Electrical Trades Unions,
36:12
Speaker 1: is backed a huge wage claim in New South Wales
36:15
Speaker 1: six and a half percent increases every year for three years.
36:19
Speaker 1: And it's fact that we're a ban on switching off
36:21
Speaker 1: power lines, which means you can't hook up to the
36:25
Speaker 1: grid if you've got a new house or housing development.
36:28
Speaker 1: There's school's being affected, retirement homes, hospitals and a twenty
36:32
Speaker 1: three billion dollars in big infrastructure approachues including government ones
36:36
Speaker 1: now Eleteracity provider Endeavor Energy did try last week to
36:40
Speaker 1: get the Fair Work Commission to lift the ban. It wouldn't.
36:43
Speaker 1: The New South Wales government also won't get involved, so
36:45
Speaker 1: this will go in for another six months. Join me
36:48
Speaker 1: is Lucy Wilson. She remortgaged her home to start a
36:52
Speaker 1: new events and catering business, Breakfast Creek, a vinyon on
36:55
Speaker 1: the New South Wales South coast. Now can't plug in.
36:59
Speaker 1: It's made switch board to the grid. Lucy Wilson, thank
37:02
Speaker 1: you so much for your time. In fact, I couldn't
37:05
Speaker 1: believe this. You had to pay Provider Energy, your local provider,
37:12
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars upfront to come last Tuesday and plug
37:17
Speaker 1: you in. The workers came. What happened?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, so the last Tuesday it was booked in. So
37:26
Speaker 13: we're upgrading our main switchboard. And nine o'clock the power
37:32
Speaker 13: went off. My mum messaged me I was down in
37:36
Speaker 13: the bottom paddock where it was all happening with my contractor,
37:39
Speaker 13: Max Power Services.
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Speaker 11: Nine o'clock power went.
37:43
Speaker 13: Off and no I center Energy workers. We're like, oh,
37:47
Speaker 13: powers off, that might be a good sign. Then probably
37:51
Speaker 13: fifteen minutes later, two guys turned up, put the ladder
37:57
Speaker 13: up on the post climb.
37:58
Speaker 11: The post come back down.
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Speaker 13: After a few minutes, and that was when we were
38:03
Speaker 13: told that no, they voted in the depot that they
38:06
Speaker 13: weren't proceeding with the job that day.
38:10
Speaker 1: So why did they go up the letter in the
38:12
Speaker 1: first place.
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Speaker 11: Look, we believe it was more to put on show.
38:18
Speaker 11: It was like to.
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Speaker 13: I don't know, really, it was almost like to lead
38:23
Speaker 13: us on, to let us know, but yeah, we're going
38:25
Speaker 13: to do it. Oh no, but then we're not when
38:27
Speaker 13: they'd already made the decision that morning not to do it.
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Speaker 1: That's really cruel. And what about your twenty thousand dollars?
38:38
Speaker 11: They keep that, and then what I then have to say? Yeah, yeah,
38:43
Speaker 11: so it's all kept.
38:44
Speaker 13: And then when we have to book a new power outage,
38:48
Speaker 13: I have to give a month's notice.
38:50
Speaker 11: We have to pay it.
38:51
Speaker 13: Well, between myself and Max, we will have to pay
38:54
Speaker 13: to get.
38:54
Speaker 11: A new outage booked.
38:57
Speaker 13: And then the thing is I may pay out twenty
39:00
Speaker 13: thousand dollars, but then the day might rock up, and
39:03
Speaker 13: because they're still on.
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Speaker 11: Strike, they may go, no, no, we we're not going
39:07
Speaker 11: to do it again today.
39:09
Speaker 1: Then we have you paid twenty thousand dollars up front
39:14
Speaker 1: when you pay it to people who must have known
39:16
Speaker 1: these bands or these you know all this was going on,
39:19
Speaker 1: and the workers make a show if we're shimming up
39:22
Speaker 1: the pole and they don't do a thing, and they
39:25
Speaker 1: said they get your money. I mean I find that
39:28
Speaker 1: just have you got any recourse if you can go
39:31
Speaker 1: to a lawyer? Can you go go to anyone about this?
39:35
Speaker 11: To be honest, I don't know.
39:37
Speaker 13: Obviously it's been a well wind it's been a very
39:41
Speaker 13: stressful week. Look, I could probably go, but again it's
39:45
Speaker 13: going to cost money, a lot of money that I
39:48
Speaker 13: don't have.
39:49
Speaker 11: Yes, but I don't want to spend.
39:53
Speaker 13: The we I did get a fine call today from
40:00
Speaker 13: to say that the head office Essential Energy head office
40:04
Speaker 13: and BIGA want to do the good right thing by
40:07
Speaker 13: us and they were looking to Actually I got a
40:12
Speaker 13: text message to notify me that on the fourth of
40:14
Speaker 13: September there'll be another power outage and.
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Speaker 11: They were planning to do that that day.
40:20
Speaker 14: But the thing is Essential Energy in Biger might be
40:23
Speaker 14: happy to do it, but if they phone up the
40:25
Speaker 14: head office to get the permit to actually turn the
40:28
Speaker 14: power off, they may be on strike that day, so
40:31
Speaker 14: it doesn't go ahead at all.
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Speaker 1: I feel so sorry for you. What happens if you
40:36
Speaker 1: can't connect your business?
40:39
Speaker 13: Well, basically I had to do the switchboard upgrade because
40:44
Speaker 13: I didn't have enough power to be able to run
40:47
Speaker 13: food trailer. Cool rooms have music bands DJ's playing. So basically,
40:56
Speaker 13: without the upgrade, I can't.
40:58
Speaker 11: Have any of that on site. I can't.
41:03
Speaker 13: We can't cook food, we can't have music, we can't
41:06
Speaker 13: cool food. We could potentially get a generator in the meantime,
41:11
Speaker 13: but then again, that's extra cost, that's extra noise, and.
41:18
Speaker 11: I don't know what to do.
41:20
Speaker 13: Do I just put it on hold for six months
41:23
Speaker 13: and go back. Well, obviously I have a mortgage to pay.
41:27
Speaker 13: Me and my husband we have a mortgage to pay.
41:30
Speaker 11: Do I go back to work for six months?
41:32
Speaker 13: And well it would be longer because I'll miss out
41:35
Speaker 13: on the tourist season, I'll miss out on the summer season,
41:38
Speaker 13: the wedding season.
41:42
Speaker 1: Ah, this is just a terrible, terrible story. I heard
41:45
Speaker 1: that you is looking at this is feeling a shamed,
41:47
Speaker 1: ashamed of what it's doing to people like you. Lucy Wilson,
41:51
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time and all the best.
41:53
Speaker 1: I mean this is you should not have been put
41:56
Speaker 1: through this and that twenty thousand dollars gone, I mean, really,
42:00
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. After the break,
42:03
Speaker 1: another priest is stabbed by an allegeddles them extremist in
42:07
Speaker 1: your sense a pattern? Why are you reading more about that. Well,
42:16
Speaker 1: here we go again. Another priest has been stabbed by
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Speaker 1: allegedly I was from a teenager and Islamic state supporter.
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Speaker 1: And this time the alleged victim father Paul Murphy, an
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Speaker 1: Armie chaplain in Ireland Gorway, who was seriously injured when
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Speaker 1: a sixteen year old allegedly stabbed him repeatedly. The teenager
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Speaker 1: was allegedly radicalized online and had a grudge against Irish
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Speaker 1: peacekeepers that served in the Middle East. And here we
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Speaker 1: have our own Tuel independent impiece and centers furies that
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Speaker 1: opportunity depeeded up once started checks on Palacini refugees come
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Speaker 1: from terrorist run gaza. Joining me from London is writer,
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Speaker 1: commentator and broadcaster Esther Cracker. Esther, you know we found
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Speaker 1: in France priest being stabbed by, nearly beheaded. The teenager
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Speaker 1: in Austros charged with Tero sector over the attack on
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Speaker 1: a Sydney bishop who lost an eye, those attacks on
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Speaker 1: Christian churches in Nigeria this year again, this attack in Ireland.
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Speaker 1: Put it together. What does this still you because I'm
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Speaker 1: not reading much about all this at all.
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Speaker 15: Well, the overwhelming sense, particularly from the public, is the
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Speaker 15: authorities have lost control. Things are getting worse, not better,
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Speaker 15: and there's an increasingly increasingly.
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Speaker 7: Is a limit or censorship of what you can say
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Speaker 7: about this.
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Speaker 15: I mean the idea that you have often a lot
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Speaker 15: of mostly men that have somehow been radicalized, that somehow
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Speaker 15: are living in countries with whose values they abhor and
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Speaker 15: are able to get away with this.
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Speaker 7: It's becoming a recurring theme.
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Speaker 15: And alongside that, we're seeing the people that are most
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Speaker 15: vulnerable in society.
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Speaker 7: Often bearing the brunt of this that.
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Speaker 15: I don't know if you've noticed, there's a sickening rise
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Speaker 15: of these terrorist attacks that are targeting activities that young.
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Speaker 7: Girls like to do.
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Speaker 15: So we saw the Ariana Grande bombing in Manchester, and
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Speaker 15: then we saw Taylor Swift having to counsel concerts in
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Speaker 15: Vienna in Austria because of a foiled terrorist plot. And
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Speaker 15: then we saw these children in Southport being stabbed at
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Speaker 15: the Taylor Swift dance class. Now we see priests being stabbed,
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Speaker 15: we have people being mowed down in the street, and
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Speaker 15: you never actually hear a lot about the background of
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Speaker 15: the people being killed because we know that that's being suppressed.
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Speaker 15: And if you do hear something, you usually hear something
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Speaker 15: along the lines of mental illness. The reality is the
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Speaker 15: public one are getting sick of this, and two they
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Speaker 15: don't forget the authorities that are supposed to be screening
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Speaker 15: people not only that are coming into the country but
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Speaker 15: living amongst us, seem to be doing a worse and
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Speaker 15: worse job. I mean, I'm sure you remember the case
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Speaker 15: of Abdullah Zidi here in the UK, a man who
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Speaker 15: was denied asylum twice, was convicted of sexual assault and
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Speaker 15: was granted asylum on his third attempt because you had
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Speaker 15: a priest that vouched for his apparent conversion to Christianity.
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Speaker 15: We saw a similar case with I believe it was
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Speaker 15: an Iraqi asylum seeker who allegedly converted to Christianity, but
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Speaker 15: when he carried out attacks, they found a pray and
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Speaker 15: matt and the Quran in his home, which against suggested
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Speaker 15: that there was another Burgus case of conversion. There's so
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Speaker 15: many cases around among many countries in the Western world
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Speaker 15: like this, where it's becoming clear that the authorities are
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Speaker 15: losing control. The public are becoming more and more centered
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Speaker 15: on what they can actually say about this, and unfortunately,
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Speaker 15: things seem to be getting worse.
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Speaker 7: And no one has the answers. I mean, the reality
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Speaker 7: is we should be able to.
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Speaker 15: Say that we want to feel safe in our countries,
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Speaker 15: that we should be able to get to choose who
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Speaker 15: lives in our countries, and we should be able to
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Speaker 15: eradicate the threat within our borders of people that are
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Speaker 15: living in communities that are radicalizing or self isolating and
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Speaker 15: then learning themselves to radicalization. But unfortunately we can't even
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Speaker 15: say that anymore. I'm surprised we can even have this conversation.
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Speaker 15: Who knows if we can have this conversation two or
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Speaker 15: three years down the line, because apparently the powers that
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Speaker 15: be want to put their heads in the sign and
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Speaker 15: pretend like there isn't a problem here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't talk to me about struggles to get things.
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Speaker 1: To hear, your new labor premis in UK like els
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Speaker 1: here is also going to refugee christ Just talking about
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Speaker 1: losing control is that you've had nearly five hundred legal
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Speaker 1: immogrants come by boat just last Saturday to the UK.
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Speaker 1: That's more than fourteen hundred sailing over in just seven days.
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Speaker 1: It sounds serious. What's Key Stammer doing about it?
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Speaker 15: Well, the labor government have the audacity to tell the
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Speaker 15: public to basically get used these boat crossings for the
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Speaker 15: next twelve years. What they are doing is they're expanding
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Speaker 15: asylum centers so theyuhold greater capacity. They're apparently having greater
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Speaker 15: cooperation with the European governments to smash the gangs. Nothing
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Speaker 15: about a deterrent, Nothing about the fact that when the
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Speaker 15: people actually finally find a way to make it to
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Speaker 15: our shows, they virtually cannot be removed. Nothing about the
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Speaker 15: fact that even the people that go to the safe
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Speaker 15: and legal process of asylum, often.
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Speaker 7: Who are often rejected, just are not removed. I mean
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Speaker 7: even people that tell you.
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Speaker 15: That, oh, we should we should have safe and legal
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Speaker 15: roots for these people to apply for asylum. There are
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Speaker 15: over three hundred thousand people in this country in the
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Speaker 15: last in the last couple of years alone who have
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Speaker 15: been refused asylum and yet haven't been removed because they
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Speaker 15: come from countries where there's no returns agreement, so they
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Speaker 15: know once they land in the UK they will probably
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Speaker 15: never be removed. The whole system is a scam, it's
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Speaker 15: a shambles. And the reason why you're seeing an uptick
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Speaker 15: in these migrants crossing the channel is because they know
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Speaker 15: that the labor government is going to be soft on them.
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Speaker 7: They're not going to do anything about it. And unfortunately,
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Speaker 7: what the labor government is planning on doing is it's
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Speaker 7: the sense.
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Speaker 15: Of people like me and make sure that we have
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Speaker 15: very little to say about it, even though the problem
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Speaker 15: is getting worse and worse.
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Speaker 1: Do just quickly Prince Harry and Mega Markel now into
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Speaker 1: the absarre to or Columbia. Three thousand police guard them
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Speaker 1: from very small crowds. I visit a music school, spoke
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Speaker 1: at a small, half full meeting on online bullying and
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Speaker 1: basically used as a prop of the country's vice president,
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Speaker 1: saying that it's all a bit sad and desperate.
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Speaker 15: Well, yes, and she's just trying to draw away from
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Speaker 15: domestic problems that she's having. I mean, in two years
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Speaker 15: of her being vice president, if this is her most
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Speaker 15: significant achievement, is clear that Harry and Began are being
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Speaker 15: used as pawns. I still find it incredible that they
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Speaker 15: felt safe traveling to Columbia, but somehow the UK is
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Speaker 15: completely beyond the pail and they feel like there'll be
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Speaker 15: victims of some sort of horrific attack when they can
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Speaker 15: go to Colombia and the groups of dealing with drug gangs.
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Speaker 7: That are actually murdering people on a routine basis.
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Speaker 1: It's incredible, It's incredible, incredible. Still Britain doesn't lay on
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand police every time they visit, so I guess
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Speaker 1: they felt a bit safer esther crafty. Thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for your time. Just one last thing that Britain.
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Speaker 1: Higgins saget another twist. She was due to give evidence
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Speaker 1: in the defamation action brought against the form of US
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Speaker 1: senator to Linda Reynolds, who says Higgins falsely accused of
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Speaker 1: run being unsympathetic when she was raped by liberal staffer
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Speaker 1: and even tried to cover it up. Higgins lawyer now
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Speaker 1: says Higgins won't be called to give evidence a medical
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Speaker 1: condition on it goes. That's it for me, Sherry Maxin
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Speaker 1: Now good night,