Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 4/1/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Mike Davis & Hogan Gidley, Andrew Kolvet, Victor Marx, Col. Robert Maness, Jonathan Gilliam.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America. Tonight, President Trump takes a
- 0:03Speaker 1: seat at the Supreme Court as his administration fights to
- 0:06Speaker 1: dismantle a century of precedents and redefine birthright citizenship. Plus
- 0:12Speaker 1: a forensic bombshell in the Charlie Kirk assassination trial now
- 0:16Speaker 1: has the defense demanding a delay, but prosecutors say a
- 0:20Speaker 1: mangled bullet fragment is far from a get out of
- 0:23Speaker 1: jail free card for the suspect. Tyler Robinson will dive
- 0:26Speaker 1: into that one tonight and war of words over a
- 0:29Speaker 1: potential ceasefire in Iran as our commander in chief continues
- 0:32Speaker 1: to proclaim that the US will blast them into oblivion
- 0:36Speaker 1: unless they open up the strait of our most Now,
- 0:39Speaker 1: I'm dan Ball and Real America starts right now.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And I'm going I believe because I have listened to
- 0:55Speaker 2: this argument for so long. And this is not about Chinese,
- 1:00Speaker 2: these billionaires who are billionaires from other countries, who all
- 1:03Speaker 2: of a sudden have seventy five children, or fifty nine
- 1:06Speaker 2: children in one case, or ten children.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Becoming American citizens.
- 1:11Speaker 3: This was about slaves.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Amen. President Trump making it clear he isn't just monitoring
- 1:18Speaker 1: the birthright citizen citizenship case rather from the Oval Office.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Oh no, no. In a rare and historic move, he
- 1:24Speaker 1: personally attended today's Supreme Court arguments regarding his order, and
- 1:28Speaker 1: he wants it done. For years, there has been a
- 1:31Speaker 1: legal debate over what in the heck ah the folks
- 1:36Speaker 1: met one hundred and some years ago when they wrote
- 1:38Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, right, or two hundred years ago, however
- 1:41Speaker 1: long ago it was. And this is the phrase that
- 1:43Speaker 1: everybody gets hung up on. And that's why we're going
- 1:46Speaker 1: to have an attorney join us in just a second
- 1:49Speaker 1: and break this down, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. That's
- 1:54Speaker 1: the hang up for so many legal scholars. The administration's
- 1:57Speaker 1: argument is pretty straightforward. They contend that the post Civil
- 2:01Speaker 1: War intent of the Amendment has been stretched way beyond
- 2:06Speaker 1: its purpose, creating a magnet for what Trump and others
- 2:10Speaker 1: call birth tourism and a loophole for those without permanent
- 2:15Speaker 1: ties to our country. We see it all the time.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You heard the President talk about millionaire billionaires in China
- 2:20Speaker 1: who've got seventy five kids under their name. But then
- 2:23Speaker 1: also think of the scores and scores of people from
- 2:27Speaker 1: South American countries who enter our country illegally just to
- 2:31Speaker 1: drop a kid off to have birth and go, oh,
- 2:34Speaker 1: my kids an American, let's all pay for it. I'm
- 2:36Speaker 1: in the welfare system. Now, that's not what it was
- 2:39Speaker 1: intended for, Folks. Again, I'm not a legal scholar, but
- 2:43Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, since it was part of reconstruction after
- 2:47Speaker 1: the war, that it was about slavery and not about oh,
- 2:50Speaker 1: let's just let millions of illegals from any nation walk
- 2:54Speaker 1: in unvetted and pop out their kids, and you're an
- 2:57Speaker 1: American and the system will take care of the President's
- 3:02Speaker 1: presence today in the High Court underscores just how high
- 3:06Speaker 1: the stakes are. It's not just about policy anymore. It
- 3:08Speaker 1: is a landmark challenge to more than a century of
- 3:12Speaker 1: legal president so it's an uphill battle. By appearing in person,
- 3:16Speaker 1: the President, though, is signaling that he views this as
- 3:19Speaker 1: a cornerstone of his mission to redefine what an American
- 3:24Speaker 1: is and what it is to be an American a
- 3:27Speaker 1: citizen of this republic. Asserting the administration's core legal theory,
- 3:31Speaker 1: Solicener General John Sower argued that the original meaning of
- 3:35Speaker 1: the Constitution was never intended to grant automatic status to
- 3:39Speaker 1: anybody who comes in illegally listen.
- 3:43Speaker 4: And in eighteen eighty four, this Court recognized that subject
- 3:45Speaker 4: of the jurisdiction means owing direct and immediate allegiance. The
- 3:51Speaker 4: clause thus does not extend citizenship to the children of
- 3:54Speaker 4: temporary visa holders or illegal aliens. Unlike the newly freed slaves,
- 3:59Speaker 4: those visitors lack direct and immediate allegiance to the United States.
- 4:03Speaker 4: For aliens, lawful domicile is the status that creates the
- 4:06Speaker 4: requisite allegiance, and the text of the clause presupposes domicile
- 4:11Speaker 4: for decades following the clauses adoption. Commentators recognize that the
- 4:15Speaker 4: children of temporary visitors are not citizens and illegal aliens
- 4:20Speaker 4: lack the legal capacity to establish domicile.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Here, yet another massive legal and political showdown erupting after
- 4:27Speaker 1: President Trump signed a sweeping executive order targeting the nation's
- 4:30Speaker 1: voting system. The directive mandates the creation of a national
- 4:33Speaker 1: list of verified eligible voters and hits the US Postal
- 4:36Speaker 1: Service with strict new rules for handling all ballots. Democrats,
- 4:41Speaker 1: particularly pitching a hissy fit, already saying they're going to sue.
- 4:45Speaker 1: The administration calls the move full proof, though in an
- 4:49Speaker 1: effort to close all of these loopholes. Speaking from the Oval,
- 4:52Speaker 1: the President argued that public opinion is on his side
- 4:55Speaker 1: and that opposition to these measures only comes from one place.
- 5:00Speaker 5: The cheating on mail and voting is legendary. It's horrible
- 5:04Speaker 5: what's going on, and it's very clearly covered, very very clearly.
- 5:09Speaker 5: So I think this will help a lot with elections.
- 5:13Speaker 5: We'd like to have voter ID, we'd like to have
- 5:15Speaker 5: proof of citizenship, and that'll be another subject for another time.
- 5:19Speaker 6: We're working on that. You would think it would be easy.
- 5:21Speaker 6: It's a ninety eight percent issue for Republicans. It's eighty
- 5:24Speaker 6: six percent. Thing just came out of Paul and it's
- 5:28Speaker 6: eighty six percent with Republicans and Democrats, not leaders, because
- 5:32Speaker 6: the leaders of the Democrats cheat and the only people
- 5:36Speaker 6: that don't want to do voter idea of people that cheat.
- 5:38Speaker 1: There's no other reason for it. All right, joining me
- 5:41Speaker 1: now to talk about these two very big issues, but
- 5:44Speaker 1: more importantly, this monumental case today that's got to be
- 5:46Speaker 1: the biggest thing. He's an attorney president of the Article
- 5:49Speaker 1: three Project, Mike Davis, and he's a former White House
- 5:51Speaker 1: Deputy Press secretary. During Trump's first term a pal Hogan Gidley, gentlemen, welcome, welcome, welcome.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Let's start with the Fourteenth and we'll move over to
- 6:00Speaker 1: voter rights as well. I want to begin with the
- 6:02Speaker 1: attorney in the House, Mike. This is huge. The president's
- 6:07Speaker 1: presence is huge. I've never heard of a president in
- 6:11Speaker 1: my lifetime going in and sitting in on a Supreme
- 6:14Speaker 1: Court hearing like this, Mike. The stakes are high. Let's
- 6:17Speaker 1: talk about the Fourteenth and how you interpret it.
- 6:22Speaker 7: This is a very easy legal case if the Supreme
- 6:26Speaker 7: Court justices followed the law. The Fourteenth Amendment birthright citizen
- 6:32Speaker 7: Ship clause was enacted to give to correct the egregious
- 6:37Speaker 7: Dread Scott decision and to give birthright citizenship to the
- 6:41Speaker 7: freed slaves.
- 6:42Speaker 1: And their kids.
- 6:43Speaker 7: The Supreme Court has extended that to lawful and permanent
- 6:48Speaker 7: residents that you have to be both born in the
- 6:50Speaker 7: United States and subject to its jurisdiction, meaning you have
- 6:54Speaker 7: to have allegiance total allegiance to the United States. The
- 6:58Speaker 7: Fourteenth Amendments birthright citizenship revision did not apply to American Indians.
- 7:03Speaker 7: Congress had to give birthright citizenship to American Indians through statutes,
- 7:08Speaker 7: so you have to ask the Supreme Court this just
- 7:11Speaker 7: positive question. If it does not apply to American Indians,
- 7:14Speaker 7: how the hell what did it applied to illegal aliens?
- 7:17Speaker 7: It simply does.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Not, Thank you. All right, on the political side, hog
- 7:21Speaker 1: come in and weigh in here. Do you think that
- 7:23Speaker 1: President Trump, the administration Republicans have done a good enough
- 7:26Speaker 1: job explaining to the American people. Why, yes, we know
- 7:30Speaker 1: it's been in place for one hundred and forty some years,
- 7:33Speaker 1: but they got it wrong. Not back then, but over
- 7:36Speaker 1: the years it's been misconstrued. Who misconstrued and who used it?
- 7:40Speaker 1: Obviously we know the answer, so that we could just
- 7:42Speaker 1: let any illegal come in and pop a kid.
- 7:44Speaker 8: Out, well, obviously Democrats have used this as one of
- 7:48Speaker 8: their main drivers to try and support protect prop up
- 7:54Speaker 8: and pay for illegal aliens coming into this country. Great peril,
- 8:00Speaker 8: great cost to the American citizen. The arguments here I
- 8:03Speaker 8: think are very valid. The Constitution I do not believe
- 8:07Speaker 8: gives automatic citizenship to people who are just born here
- 8:10Speaker 8: if your parents are from another country.
- 8:12Speaker 3: I mean, take a look at diplomats.
- 8:14Speaker 8: If you are an ambassador from France, for example, in
- 8:18Speaker 8: the United States, and you have a child, you don't automatically.
- 8:22Speaker 8: Your child isn't automatically a citizen of America. That's a
- 8:25Speaker 8: citizen of France. You're here visiting. That is obvious to
- 8:30Speaker 8: so many out there. Will it send shockwaves across the
- 8:33Speaker 8: political universe?
- 8:35Speaker 3: Probably? Will many people care too much about it. I
- 8:38Speaker 3: don't really know, because it's not a real high issue
- 8:40Speaker 3: anymore because Donald Trump fixed the border.
- 8:42Speaker 8: But I do think it will provide such ammunition, as
- 8:47Speaker 8: such good information in the midterm conversation to bring this
- 8:51Speaker 8: issue back to the fore and say, think about the
- 8:54Speaker 8: tens of billions of trillions of dollars that have been
- 8:58Speaker 8: spent on people who do not have the right.
- 9:00Speaker 3: To be here.
- 9:01Speaker 8: Great point that is for you, the American citizen. So
- 9:04Speaker 8: I think politically it's a winner. I just can't wait
- 9:07Speaker 8: to see out of the court actually rules.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about allegiance, Well, you'd need to sign
- 9:11Speaker 1: up and be a citizen to have allegiance. Not an
- 9:13Speaker 1: illegal who came in pregnant has dropped the kid off. Mike,
- 9:17Speaker 1: let me throw this actually to both of you. I
- 9:18Speaker 1: want to run this one from the DEI hire on
- 9:21Speaker 1: the Skotis and that would be Katanji Brown Jackson and
- 9:24Speaker 1: her trying to explain why she doesn't want to lean
- 9:27Speaker 1: for getting rid of this, and she makes a weird
- 9:29Speaker 1: analogy about laws if you went to Japan, roll this.
- 9:32Speaker 9: But you also have local allegiance when you are on
- 9:36Speaker 9: the soil of this other sovereign. And I was thinking,
- 9:41Speaker 9: you know, I'm ius citizen and visiting Japan, and what
- 9:45Speaker 9: it means is that, you know, if I steal someone's
- 9:48Speaker 9: wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and
- 9:55Speaker 9: prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning can they control as a
- 10:01Speaker 9: matter of law. I can also rely on them if
- 10:03Speaker 9: my wallet is stolen to you know, under Japanese law,
- 10:07Speaker 9: go and prosecute the person who has stolen it. So
- 10:11Speaker 9: there's this relationship based on even though I'm a temporary traveler,
- 10:15Speaker 9: I'm just on vacation in Japan, I'm still locally owing allegiance.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Huh. Did she just help prove the point that we
- 10:25Speaker 1: should and birthright citizenship? Althoughose when you first minn you oga, Huh.
- 10:31Speaker 7: Here's the key question for the Supreme courts. If we
- 10:34Speaker 7: fight a civil war to give birthright citizenship to one
- 10:39Speaker 7: point five million Chinese birth forest, if the Supreme Court
- 10:45Speaker 7: justices actually ruled that way. If they think they're textualist
- 10:50Speaker 7: and originalist and they think that's what the Fourteenth Amendment means,
- 10:54Speaker 7: they will lose all legitimacy on the Supreme Court.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Hol got want your reaction because I felt like it
- 11:00Speaker 1: was just a mouthful of whatever. But I heard what
- 11:03Speaker 1: she was trying to say, like, well, if I'm visiting,
- 11:04Speaker 1: I got adhere to the laws and rules. I got that.
- 11:07Speaker 1: But they break into our country illegally, they're not allegiant
- 11:10Speaker 1: to it. So if they pop out a kid here,
- 11:13Speaker 1: why would all of a sudden that kid become an American?
- 11:15Speaker 1: I don't get the connection she was trying to make.
- 11:18Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean, also, you're subject to the laws.
- 11:20Speaker 3: What does that have to do with your allegiance to
- 11:22Speaker 3: the country. That's just the laws where you are. Don't
- 11:24Speaker 3: make any sense.
- 11:25Speaker 8: When she started that answer and said you obviously, Kamma,
- 11:29Speaker 8: she lost me, Like the first two words out of
- 11:31Speaker 8: her mouth. I was like, Nah, you lost me already.
- 11:33Speaker 8: I was very confused by that. I think most Americans are.
- 11:36Speaker 8: But Mike asks the right question here and makes the
- 11:39Speaker 8: right point, which is if the Supreme Court rules that
- 11:43Speaker 8: this is applicable to any child born here from anybody
- 11:46Speaker 8: who's not an assistant here. They're legitimacy is in serious
- 11:51Speaker 8: peril because it's so obvious to so many, regardless of
- 11:55Speaker 8: the fact it has been abused for decades now in
- 11:58Speaker 8: this country.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Sooner or later, sanity needs to win out here.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Hogan, Gidley, Mike Davis. As always, gentlemen, thank you for
- 12:06Speaker 1: coming on. Now we will wait. Mike, I'll ask you,
- 12:09Speaker 1: since you know the justices, is this something where we
- 12:12Speaker 1: will learn it right before summer? As usual? We may
- 12:14Speaker 1: get a ruling by June May. What do you think?
- 12:18Speaker 7: I am very concerned that based upon oral arguments today,
- 12:22Speaker 7: this is going to go down seven to two with
- 12:26Speaker 7: the Chief Justice and the three Trump Justices joining the
- 12:29Speaker 7: Liberals and violating with the people's most crucial sovereign power,
- 12:36Speaker 7: which is to control our border and to control our populus.
- 12:39Speaker 7: This is probably going to be a June decision at
- 12:42Speaker 7: the end of the term. But this is going to
- 12:43Speaker 7: be devastating to the Supreme Courts legitimacy. They're not going
- 12:47Speaker 7: to come back from this.
- 12:48Speaker 1: And I would assume the two you mean is Alito
- 12:50Speaker 1: and Clarence Thomas, the two that we can count. Yes, hold,
- 12:52Speaker 1: I'll give you the final word. Then what do you
- 12:54Speaker 1: call it? How do you see it?
- 12:56Speaker 3: Look, I don't know. I saw a few snippets here
- 12:58Speaker 3: and there.
- 12:59Speaker 8: I just think logically it makes a whole lot of
- 13:00Speaker 8: sense for them to rule in favor of the Constitution
- 13:03Speaker 8: and the textual language that it's clear for.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Everyone to read. But in this world.
- 13:07Speaker 8: I remember when I was in the White House, I
- 13:09Speaker 8: made a comment about the Supreme Court and not being political,
- 13:12Speaker 8: and the person in the White House looked at me like,
- 13:14Speaker 8: are you crazy? And I was like, wait, no, they're
- 13:16Speaker 8: judges in Supreme Court in my naivete and they go,
- 13:19Speaker 8: oh no, they're quite political.
- 13:21Speaker 3: They read the tea leaves and they do.
- 13:22Speaker 8: A lot of things based on how the political wins
- 13:26Speaker 8: are blowing in this country.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately I agree with Mike here. I was doing
- 13:30Speaker 1: the math in my head, going maybe we get corsicch
- 13:32Speaker 1: we got Alito, we got Clarence, there's three, where's Amy,
- 13:36Speaker 1: where's the Chief Justice? Yeah? I unfortunately think I agree
- 13:40Speaker 1: with Hogan, and that is horrible. Gentlemen, Thank you as
- 13:43Speaker 1: always appreciate you. Thanks yep. When we come back the
- 13:47Speaker 1: very latest on the murder trial of Tyler Robinson, the
- 13:50Speaker 1: young man accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk. One of Charlie's
- 13:54Speaker 1: best friends and show producer Andrew Colban will join us
- 13:57Speaker 1: to discuss plus is a Ran finally saying uncle and
- 14:01Speaker 1: ready to make a deal. We'll dive into that and
- 14:04Speaker 1: a bit later on the program, our friend Victor Marx
- 14:06Speaker 1: will join us to catch up on his campaign to
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- 14:51Speaker 1: there's been a major forensic twist in the Charlie Kirk
- 14:53Speaker 1: assassination trial, or has there been? Well, because this report
- 14:59Speaker 1: came out. You know, a rag newspaper said something. Now
- 15:02Speaker 1: there's a big, heated debate because you know, all the
- 15:05Speaker 1: black pillars, all the doomsday folks out there that got
- 15:09Speaker 1: woken up and figured out COVID was a plandemic and
- 15:11Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election was rigged, and the laptop was real.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Now think everything's a conspiracy theory. New court filings are
- 15:19Speaker 1: raising questions about the murder weapon, but investigators say the
- 15:22Speaker 1: hype may be missing the technical reality. See, there's always
- 15:27Speaker 1: reality and facts. Folks not your favorite podcast are going
- 15:31Speaker 1: I know I got the proof, even though I'll never
- 15:34Speaker 1: show you. We're getting closer. We're getting closer. According to
- 15:37Speaker 1: a report first highlighted by The Daily Mail, a new
- 15:41Speaker 1: court filing reveals that federal ballistics experts were one unable
- 15:45Speaker 1: rather to match one hundred percent with accuracy the bullet
- 15:49Speaker 1: that killed our friend Charlie to the Mauser Model ninety
- 15:53Speaker 1: eight rifle that Tyler Robinson got. I believe they said
- 15:56Speaker 1: from his grandpa. Robinson's defense team is now, of course,
- 16:00Speaker 1: seizing all this, calling the evidence fatally flawed and you
- 16:04Speaker 1: know there should be a mistrial, throw everything out. No,
- 16:07Speaker 1: they're now pushing to bring ATF officials into the courtroom
- 16:10Speaker 1: for testimony, a move that then could delay the trial
- 16:13Speaker 1: for up to six months. However, the prosecution firing back.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Speaking on Fox News recently, former federal investigators emphasized a
- 16:21Speaker 1: critical distinction, okay, between unable to one hundred percent identify
- 16:28Speaker 1: and rule out. You see the difference. They didn't say,
- 16:32Speaker 1: there's no way this was the bullet. That's when you
- 16:34Speaker 1: rule it out. Unable to identify because it's smashed and
- 16:38Speaker 1: fragmented inside of our friend's body when he was murdered.
- 16:42Speaker 1: That happens, and then you can't match the rifling scratches
- 16:45Speaker 1: on the bullet. That's how it works, folks. Now again,
- 16:50Speaker 1: the reason they couldn't is because the experts say it
- 16:53Speaker 1: was so damaged that it was inconclusive. But that doesn't
- 16:57Speaker 1: mean it didn't come from the gun. But don't tell
- 16:59Speaker 1: that to the idiot's online grifted and making money off y'all.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Prosecutors maintained their broader case remains very strong, pointing to
- 17:07Speaker 1: several confessions by the murderer and DNA evidence at the
- 17:13Speaker 1: scene and in his home. Duh oh wait, he's a patsy,
- 17:17Speaker 1: that's right. They got thousands of people to set this
- 17:19Speaker 1: all up as a big conspiracy, and they set Tyler up.
- 17:22Speaker 1: He didn't do it. I forgot him so dumb. Lawyers
- 17:25Speaker 1: for the man accused of killing conservative commentator Kirk are
- 17:28Speaker 1: fighting to keep cameras out of the courtroom as well.
- 17:30Speaker 1: In a newly unsealed motion, defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson
- 17:34Speaker 1: argue that a content tornado of political rhetoric and media
- 17:38Speaker 1: coverage has made a fair trial nearly impossible. Well, you
- 17:42Speaker 1: bring the facts, and the prosecution will bring the facts,
- 17:45Speaker 1: and twelve people will decide pal. They point the statements
- 17:48Speaker 1: from Utah's governor and President Trump, who both labeled the
- 17:51Speaker 1: shooting as a political assassination. Well, it was he was
- 17:54Speaker 1: defending his trans boyfriend at home. The defense claims this
- 17:58Speaker 1: creates extreme pretrial prejudice. Go try and find a jury
- 18:01Speaker 1: anywhere in the country hasn't heard about this, idiots. The
- 18:05Speaker 1: motion also claims some out let's have used phony body
- 18:07Speaker 1: language experts and ai manipulated images to distort the case.
- 18:12Speaker 1: While media organizations and prosecutors are pushing for full transparency,
- 18:16Speaker 1: The judge is expected to decide the fate of the
- 18:18Speaker 1: courtroom access for media in just a few days April seventeenth.
- 18:24Speaker 1: So how do some of Charlie's closest friends, co workers,
- 18:29Speaker 1: his wife, the folks at TPUSA feel the trials going,
- 18:32Speaker 1: and how do they feel about all these conspiracy theories
- 18:35Speaker 1: and negative nonsense all over social media every day talking
- 18:39Speaker 1: about their friend and their organization joining me out to
- 18:42Speaker 1: discuss that TPSA spokesman and executive producer of The Charlie
- 18:46Speaker 1: Kirk Show and a good friend to Charlie, Andrew colvit
- 18:49Speaker 1: back on the program. Andrew, thanks for giving us time, man,
- 18:52Speaker 1: I know you've been swamped.
- 18:53Speaker 10: How you been I'm doing all right, Dan, Thanks so
- 18:56Speaker 10: much for having me.
- 18:57Speaker 11: And that was a very thorough and accurate lead up,
- 19:00Speaker 11: so I appreciate that.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Thanks. I get a little hot, as you know. Andrew
- 19:06Speaker 1: and I had a good half hour call last night
- 19:08Speaker 1: before he decided to come on today, and I express
- 19:10Speaker 1: things I won't say on the air because it get
- 19:11Speaker 1: me thrown off television. But I'm so so frustrated for
- 19:16Speaker 1: you and for the team, and especially for Erica with
- 19:20Speaker 1: all these lies, and I don't want to delay. I
- 19:22Speaker 1: want this damn sicko to be found guilty and I
- 19:25Speaker 1: wish we could take them out and do you know
- 19:29Speaker 1: what in the street, because we used to do that
- 19:30Speaker 1: to send a message that won't happen. But I wish
- 19:33Speaker 1: we could get to that point. And the longer this
- 19:35Speaker 1: trial takes, the more of this nonsense we're going to hear.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I just want how you're feeling today hearing what I
- 19:41Speaker 1: just talked about with the possible delay and the questions
- 19:43Speaker 1: of the bullets and media in the courtroom and all
- 19:45Speaker 1: that stuff.
- 19:47Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 19:47Speaker 11: I mean, I was actually just reflecting on the media
- 19:49Speaker 11: tornado comment from the defense attorney, and I couldn't disagree
- 19:54Speaker 11: more Dan, because the thing that's going to create the
- 19:56Speaker 11: media tornado is if you keep delaying this case and
- 19:59Speaker 11: you don't like cameras in. So the only solution for
- 20:03Speaker 11: some of this conspiracy nonsense that we've seen is to
- 20:06Speaker 11: open up that trial. Get it going as soon as possible,
- 20:09Speaker 11: because right now we have a vacuum. There's a void
- 20:11Speaker 11: created in the media landscape, especially social media. So let
- 20:15Speaker 11: cameras in there, let them see the way that the
- 20:17Speaker 11: justice system actually works, let them hear the evidence for themselves,
- 20:21Speaker 11: and you know, let the verdict be what it's going
- 20:23Speaker 11: to be. We have a very robust judicial system and
- 20:27Speaker 11: a process in this country to see if you're guilty
- 20:29Speaker 11: or innocent.
- 20:30Speaker 10: Let that process play out.
- 20:32Speaker 11: I don't begrudge Tyler Robinson's defense from mounting a robust
- 20:36Speaker 11: defense of him. That's what they're supposed to do. That's
- 20:38Speaker 11: what they're paid to do. That's our system. What I
- 20:41Speaker 11: really have a problem here with, Dan, and you pointed
- 20:44Speaker 11: it out brilliantly.
- 20:45Speaker 10: Is this Daily Mail headline.
- 20:47Speaker 11: And you know, I've called it media malfeasance, it's media malpractice.
- 20:50Speaker 11: It's really really sick stuff. The way that they presented it,
- 20:53Speaker 11: and they formulated it, I think in order to take
- 20:56Speaker 11: advantage of this cottage industry that's developed online about all
- 21:00Speaker 11: these conspiracy theories. So they knew exactly what they were doing,
- 21:03Speaker 11: they knew exactly who they were writing that for. And
- 21:05Speaker 11: it's funny they made that tweet that got like thirty
- 21:09Speaker 11: million impressions on x completely free to read, and then
- 21:13Speaker 11: the next day, I think, after all the blowback, they
- 21:15Speaker 11: say the real reason it didn't come back conclusively matching,
- 21:20Speaker 11: And then I tried to click on that one that
- 21:22Speaker 11: was the next day, tried to click on that one.
- 21:23Speaker 11: It was paywalld, so I couldn't read it and I
- 21:25Speaker 11: refused to give them my money after what they just did.
- 21:27Speaker 11: So that's the game that's playing out out here, Dan,
- 21:30Speaker 11: But I will say I don't want people to doom
- 21:32Speaker 11: and gloom because I actually saw this as a positive change,
- 21:36Speaker 11: and I'll explain why. Sure, you see the headline come in,
- 21:39Speaker 11: it's all the normal usual suspects that came in, took
- 21:43Speaker 11: advantage of it and misrepresented what the story was actually saying.
- 21:46Speaker 11: But something else very interesting happened. It's almost like X
- 21:51Speaker 11: started fighting back for the first time. And there's been
- 21:53Speaker 11: voices that have been trying to fight back here and there.
- 21:55Speaker 11: But I've said, it's like they're developing antibodies the Internet.
- 21:59Speaker 11: Social media sites are developing antibodies to the conspiracy nonsense.
- 22:04Speaker 11: And you saw that whole point of view get muted
- 22:07Speaker 11: in about four or five hours. So by the time
- 22:09Speaker 11: I woke up the next morning, it was like a
- 22:12Speaker 11: complete different site. Exit completely changed the tone, and people
- 22:18Speaker 11: realized that there was actually good explanations for this stuff.
- 22:20Speaker 10: Why it would come out inconclusive.
- 22:22Speaker 11: As you said, the bullet was so badly damaged, there
- 22:25Speaker 11: wasn't any matching to any rifle right and by.
- 22:28Speaker 1: The way, and didn't the doc tell you that the
- 22:31Speaker 1: bullet in fact lodged in Charlie's spine because at the
- 22:34Speaker 1: beginning everybody had this magic bullet theory and said where
- 22:37Speaker 1: did it go? And there was no exit wounds. There's
- 22:39Speaker 1: no way he was shot by Tyler. It's all made up.
- 22:42Speaker 1: And again you know the four or five people saying it,
- 22:44Speaker 1: I have thrown him under the bus forever. You're more
- 22:46Speaker 1: than welcome to. I just don't like even saying their
- 22:48Speaker 1: name anymore. You know why. I remember Denness showing me
- 22:51Speaker 1: Charlie's tweet when Densh went on Alex Jones's show and
- 22:55Speaker 1: debated Nick Fuentes, and Charlie tweeted him right away, or
- 22:58Speaker 1: textingrather old mad saying, don't get that guy, Oxygen, why'd
- 23:01Speaker 1: you do that? I feel the same way. I'll say
- 23:03Speaker 1: their name now and that I'm done with this crap.
- 23:05Speaker 1: So I'm sick of them. But from Canvas to Tucker
- 23:08Speaker 1: to Carry to Megan to Joe, now, all of them
- 23:11Speaker 1: shut the hell up. And for people listening and believing
- 23:14Speaker 1: that crap and paying to get past the paywall and
- 23:16Speaker 1: subscribing you're wasting your money there. I'm done saying their name.
- 23:20Speaker 10: Go ahead, Andrew, just ironic.
- 23:23Speaker 11: Actually, Fuintest has been really good on this, which is
- 23:27Speaker 11: one of those there's one of those weird ironies of life.
- 23:30Speaker 11: But you know, listen, I think again, you've got to
- 23:35Speaker 11: give people this free speech option, and you're seeing people
- 23:38Speaker 11: exercise it in actually positive ways.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Now.
- 23:40Speaker 11: So I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist. I think
- 23:43Speaker 11: people should be able to say dumb things, and I
- 23:45Speaker 11: think people with you know, good opinions are able to
- 23:48Speaker 11: come in and actually counter it.
- 23:49Speaker 10: And so again, my glass is half full on this.
- 23:52Speaker 10: I felt like this was.
- 23:53Speaker 11: A pun intended, I guess, a turning point in the
- 23:56Speaker 11: way that this is playing out online. And I'm telling you,
- 24:00Speaker 11: the same voices are ascend it.
- 24:02Speaker 10: Dan.
- 24:02Speaker 11: It's a good thing, and it's a positive thing. But
- 24:04Speaker 11: here's here's my last You kind of brought this up.
- 24:07Speaker 10: In your first question.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Good.
- 24:08Speaker 11: I just want people to remember, before the next egregious headline,
- 24:11Speaker 11: before the next crazy tweet, that there are real people
- 24:16Speaker 11: involved here.
- 24:17Speaker 10: You know, I don't even have to talk about myself.
- 24:19Speaker 10: Erica Curs, a widow for children children.
- 24:21Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you, Yeahrew, exactly, So just keep them in
- 24:25Speaker 11: mind the next time, Jesus you want to fly off
- 24:27Speaker 11: the handle and say something crazy.
- 24:28Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, thank you, thank you, thank you. Last
- 24:31Speaker 1: one's a simple one, because everybody's been talking about it. Well, Andrew,
- 24:34Speaker 1: if you didn't think there was some big conspiracy, why
- 24:37Speaker 1: did you talk to Joe Kent months and months ago
- 24:39Speaker 1: and have those text messages and talk to him and
- 24:42Speaker 1: now he's out there saying that Tyler might be a
- 24:44Speaker 1: patsy like the rest of them? Why why why'd you
- 24:46Speaker 1: do that? You explained it to me very simply last night.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Do it again to the viewers because I would have
- 24:50Speaker 1: been like you too. I want every stone on turn
- 24:53Speaker 1: to find out if anybody else helped this sicko kill
- 24:56Speaker 1: our friend.
- 24:58Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 24:58Speaker 11: Well, I mean, listen, I exist to dear point. It's
- 25:02Speaker 11: I felt like I had an obligation to Charlie. I
- 25:05Speaker 11: still have an obligation to Charlie to get to the
- 25:07Speaker 11: bottom of this. And one of the things that is
- 25:11Speaker 11: really been frustrating for me on a personal level. I
- 25:13Speaker 11: try not to cavetch about my own personal struggles too much,
- 25:16Speaker 11: but listen, I have questions out the ying yang on
- 25:19Speaker 11: this thing. I want to know who radicalized him. Were
- 25:22Speaker 11: there other people that knew in advanced certainly seemed like
- 25:24Speaker 11: there was. Was there some sort of larger nexus of
- 25:26Speaker 11: people involved in this. I haven't had a chance to even,
- 25:29Speaker 11: you know, talk about that in a loud way, because
- 25:31Speaker 11: we're constantly putting out the dumber zanier theories. Was it
- 25:35Speaker 11: an exploding lapel, was it a what did he get
- 25:37Speaker 11: electrically shocked from underneath this chair? I mean, it's been
- 25:41Speaker 11: We've seen all of this stuff, but there are legitimate
- 25:44Speaker 11: questions that need to be asked. I am of the
- 25:46Speaker 11: opinion that this was what the case is. The state
- 25:51Speaker 11: has presented its case is very compelling, extraordinarily compelling.
- 25:55Speaker 10: I had Jonathan Turley from Fox New set it this way.
- 25:58Speaker 11: He said, ninety percent of the evidence could get tossed
- 26:01Speaker 11: out by the defense. The defense could succeed in tossing
- 26:03Speaker 11: out ninety percent of the evidence presented in the charging doc,
- 26:07Speaker 11: and this kid would still get the death penalty. That's
- 26:10Speaker 11: how compelling the case is. It doesn't mean there aren't
- 26:12Speaker 11: outstanding questions. As a matter of fact, as far as
- 26:14Speaker 11: I'm aware, the state and the federal government are still
- 26:17Speaker 11: exploring and investigating other people that might have this right.
- 26:21Speaker 1: They're looking at because he was a gamer, like the
- 26:23Speaker 1: crooks one that shot Trump. Right, maybe when he was gaming,
- 26:26Speaker 1: somebody pushed him. Hey, you're dating a trends, aren't you mad?
- 26:28Speaker 1: You should go shoot Charlie? Like, let's find out if
- 26:31Speaker 1: somebody pushed him and groomed him exactly. But I just
- 26:34Speaker 1: want to reassure you were doing that right.
- 26:36Speaker 11: Yeah, I want every stone unturned. I want to make
- 26:39Speaker 11: sure that every lead is tracked down and if they
- 26:41Speaker 11: can corroborate something, if they can find something, that's what
- 26:44Speaker 11: you want. And by the way, you know, I had
- 26:47Speaker 11: obviously no idea Joe Kent was going to resign the
- 26:50Speaker 11: way he did or you know, at the time I
- 26:52Speaker 11: was told I could trust him by people were Charlie's friends.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Sure, so months ago, thank you, thank you, thank you
- 26:58Speaker 1: for clarifying that. Andrew. I knew there was a good
- 27:00Speaker 1: answer for that. But again, the internet ex sleuths think
- 27:04Speaker 1: they know more than the facts in the case.
- 27:07Speaker 10: Andrew Colett, it's pretty I wish it was more exciting
- 27:10Speaker 10: than that.
- 27:10Speaker 11: It really is pretty simple when you think about that
- 27:14Speaker 11: moment in time. But yeah, thanks for letting me clarify,
- 27:16Speaker 11: I appreciate.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It, of course. Andrew, executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show,
- 27:20Speaker 1: TPOSA spokesman and Charlie's good friend, Andrew Colvitt as always,
- 27:24Speaker 1: thank you, my friend, for setting the records. Thanks God
- 27:26Speaker 1: bless you. Best to Eric and the kids and the
- 27:28Speaker 1: whole TPUSA staff.
- 27:30Speaker 10: God bless you, and have a great Easter weekend.
- 27:32Speaker 1: You too, my friend. Thank you. Now sticking with this story,
- 27:36Speaker 1: prosecutors in Utah have officially signaled their intent to call
- 27:40Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson's inner circle to the stand, including his parents
- 27:44Speaker 1: and yes, his romantic transgender partner Lance Twigs, to testify
- 27:50Speaker 1: for the prosecution. About that legal filing suggests that Twiggs
- 27:55Speaker 1: could be a pivotal witness for the state. He reportedly
- 27:58Speaker 1: discovered a note under Robinson's keyboard where the suspect wrote,
- 28:02Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and
- 28:05Speaker 1: I'm going to take it. One question by Twig about
- 28:09Speaker 1: the motive, Robinson allegedly claimed he had enough of the hatred.
- 28:14Speaker 1: As the legal battle intensifies, all eyes remain on Provo
- 28:18Speaker 1: Utah and that courthouse for the next evidence You're hearing which,
- 28:21Speaker 1: as I said earlier, is scheduled for April seventeenth. Now
- 28:25Speaker 1: I want to dive more into the forensics of this case.
- 28:28Speaker 1: You know, actual evidence, something that canvas Owens and the
- 28:32Speaker 1: other grifters seem to care less about, especially the lion
- 28:35Speaker 1: pieces of trash at the Daily Mail. All they care
- 28:38Speaker 1: about is gullible Americans that will line their pockets. Folks,
- 28:42Speaker 1: I don't make money off the engagement or you talking
- 28:45Speaker 1: to you. I'm trying to give you the facts in
- 28:47Speaker 1: this case for my friend Charlie. So let's bring on
- 28:51Speaker 1: our friend, former FBI Special agent, Navy seal and host
- 28:54Speaker 1: of The Experts podcast, Jonathan Gilliam for some real facts.
- 28:58Speaker 1: And Jonathan, I don't need long you because I briefly
- 29:02Speaker 1: touched it with Andrew, but you're the expert who's been
- 29:05Speaker 1: on crime scenes, who's been involved with cases, and can
- 29:07Speaker 1: you please for my viewers tell them about how forensics
- 29:11Speaker 1: go with identifying a bullet with the rifling and what
- 29:15Speaker 1: happens when a hollow point which is the type of
- 29:17Speaker 1: bullet was used, fragments a part in the body, why
- 29:20Speaker 1: wouldn't have an exit wound, and why they're not able
- 29:23Speaker 1: to do a one hundred percent positive match with this bullet, which,
- 29:27Speaker 1: by the way, doesn't mean that it wasn't fired from
- 29:30Speaker 1: that old mouser gun. Jonathan Wilcome.
- 29:33Speaker 10: It doesn't listen.
- 29:35Speaker 12: The things such as the grains and bullets can change
- 29:38Speaker 12: the speed. Well, it will change the speed at which
- 29:41Speaker 12: the round goes down and the faster it goes if
- 29:46Speaker 12: it hits certain objects in the body or objects as
- 29:51Speaker 12: it flies into the body. The faster that round is going,
- 29:54Speaker 12: the more destructive it's going to be for the round itself.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I mean, once it.
- 29:59Speaker 12: Gets past the mass effective max effective range, then you're
- 30:03Speaker 12: going to see less destruction. But I don't know the
- 30:05Speaker 12: grain of that bullet. They loaded those bullets themselves, so
- 30:09Speaker 12: they could have overloaded it, and that when that round
- 30:12Speaker 12: goes in if you, for instance, are deer hunting and
- 30:17Speaker 12: you put a lower grain in that round, because it's
- 30:20Speaker 12: very fast, it's going over two thousand feet per second,
- 30:23Speaker 12: So when it hits an object at a lower velocity,
- 30:27Speaker 12: the bullet is going to stay more intact. But when
- 30:30Speaker 12: it's a higher grain round, then it's going to disintegrate,
- 30:34Speaker 12: especially it's a.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Hollow point it's supposed to hit and discintegrate. And the
- 30:38Speaker 1: autopsy proved one fragment was lodging Charlie's spine, and then
- 30:42Speaker 1: there was small other little fragment pieces. And what Daily
- 30:45Speaker 1: Mail and Candathin's idiots are keying on is they claimed
- 30:48Speaker 1: it doesn't match at all. That's not what the forensic
- 30:51Speaker 1: experts said. They said they couldn't match it. That doesn't
- 30:55Speaker 1: mean it didn't go to that gun because it was
- 30:57Speaker 1: so broken apart and smacked into his spine. They couldn't
- 31:01Speaker 1: see the rifling marks, right.
- 31:03Speaker 12: They couldn't make a direct match to that weapon because
- 31:07Speaker 12: the bullet itself was too disintegrated. Now, listen, I have
- 31:11Speaker 12: friends who've been shot in combat. One guy in particular
- 31:16Speaker 12: that I know, he was shot in the upper thigh,
- 31:18Speaker 12: right almost where the top of his femur is yep,
- 31:21Speaker 12: and a seven to sixty two round exited out the
- 31:23Speaker 12: bottom of his foot.
- 31:26Speaker 1: What Yeah, And I know the legan came out his foot.
- 31:29Speaker 12: Went straight into his leg and came out his foot.
- 31:32Speaker 12: Didn't I tell me one.
- 31:33Speaker 1: Time that you were on a case and a cop
- 31:34Speaker 1: shot somebody, most point blank a bad guy, in the
- 31:36Speaker 1: head and it didn't even pierce the skulks. He was
- 31:39Speaker 1: so close it couldn't reach velocity. It trailed around and
- 31:41Speaker 1: came out the back without going to the head.
- 31:43Speaker 12: So that was a case that we studied in the
- 31:46Speaker 12: FBI Academy. So why you cannot assume that a target
- 31:50Speaker 12: is a threat is eliminated until the threat is actually eliminated.
- 31:54Speaker 12: And in this case, an individual guy shot point blank
- 31:57Speaker 12: right in the forehead. The bullet traveled between his the
- 32:00Speaker 12: skin and his skull, never entered past his skull, and
- 32:04Speaker 12: exited the back. Bullets do crazy things. They don't always
- 32:08Speaker 12: exit bodies.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
- 32:11Speaker 12: So listen, the reality of this is that, just like
- 32:15Speaker 12: you were pointing out when we were talking earlier about
- 32:17Speaker 12: the Daily Mail and how they had a story that
- 32:20Speaker 12: you know, pointed out one headline and then when they
- 32:23Speaker 12: retracted some things, you had to go behind a paywall
- 32:25Speaker 12: in order to get it. That is a thin veiled,
- 32:30Speaker 12: not lie, but it's a correction that does not allow
- 32:33Speaker 12: people to see it if they don't do further exploration
- 32:36Speaker 12: or pay seven dollars.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Right, well, Andrew pointed that out, coled it. He was like.
- 32:40Speaker 12: Candace and people like that, that's what they thrive on,
- 32:44Speaker 12: putting information out that you are not going to go
- 32:47Speaker 12: check on and so that way they can spread whatever
- 32:50Speaker 12: narrative whatever and nator. Remember they're calculated in the narrative,
- 32:54Speaker 12: Candace owns and tuck across these people. They're not just
- 32:57Speaker 12: throwing out random lies. They're thrown out arratives, which means
- 33:01Speaker 12: they are calculated. And if you take it, it stand
- 33:04Speaker 12: as a piece of paper. If you don't look on
- 33:05Speaker 12: this side, you're only going to see what's on this side.
- 33:07Speaker 1: Thank you, John. That's what Andrews said. Look, the day
- 33:09Speaker 1: the Daily Mail dropped that headline, we can throw it
- 33:11Speaker 1: up again or don't even worry about it. They're saying
- 33:13Speaker 1: the bullet does not match and they put not all
- 33:15Speaker 1: caps and that was free for the whole planet to read.
- 33:19Speaker 1: And the next day when they corrected and said no, no,
- 33:21Speaker 1: no investigators, they couldn't positively make a match because it's
- 33:25Speaker 1: so denigrated, like it so degraded. The bullet that was
- 33:28Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Well, if you're not paying for Daily Mail,
- 33:32Speaker 1: you're not going to pay to see the truth, then
- 33:34Speaker 1: that's how they get you on the clickbait. That's what
- 33:36Speaker 1: Candice is doing. Every day. We're getting closer, We're getting closer.
- 33:38Speaker 1: We're so close to cracking this. I got the facts.
- 33:41Speaker 1: I know no, even though I don't know, I know no.
- 33:43Speaker 1: I'm so tired of it. Jonathan gilliam is always thank
- 33:46Speaker 1: you for coming on and clarifying with your expertise what
- 33:50Speaker 1: common sense folks know if you just look at the
- 33:52Speaker 1: facts of this horrible assassination. Thank you, Jonathan, check out
- 33:56Speaker 1: Dan yep. One thing.
- 33:58Speaker 12: I would just challenge everybody to critically think for themselves.
- 34:00Speaker 12: Don't take what people say. Just look beyond what they're saying,
- 34:04Speaker 12: and if you can see a shred of something else,
- 34:06Speaker 12: follow that and see if it lines out. If you
- 34:09Speaker 12: just go on the narrative and then you go out
- 34:11Speaker 12: and repeat that narrative to other people, you are also
- 34:15Speaker 12: guilty of spreading those narratives. We cannot do that. And
- 34:20Speaker 12: with these cast of characters, I just keep waiting for
- 34:22Speaker 12: Christy Nomes's husband to pop up somewhere, you know, with
- 34:27Speaker 12: you know whatever.
- 34:27Speaker 1: He I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole. Okay,
- 34:30Speaker 1: I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole. Yikes, Jonathan,
- 34:34Speaker 1: thank you. If you don't know what we're talking about,
- 34:35Speaker 1: go look it up. I'm not even putting that on
- 34:37Speaker 1: this show straight ahead, is Iran finally begging for peace
- 34:42Speaker 1: and saying uncle. We'll have details on whether or not
- 34:45Speaker 1: the almost destroyed regime is ready to make a deal.
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- 35:34Speaker 1: Welcome back now to the latest on Operation Epic Fury.
- 35:36Speaker 1: The White House signaling a potential turning point in the
- 35:39Speaker 1: Middle East, but only if it comes on Washington's terms.
- 35:43Speaker 1: President Trump announced earlier this morning, Oran has officially come
- 35:47Speaker 1: to the table requesting a ceasefire. M you don't say.
- 35:53Speaker 1: In a blunt social post, the President claims Iran's new
- 35:58Speaker 1: regime president is ready to set stop the fighting, described
- 36:01Speaker 1: the leader as less radicalized, and the President called him
- 36:05Speaker 1: more intelligent than his dead predecessors. However, the President ain't
- 36:10Speaker 1: letting up. He issued some high stakes ultimatums today. There
- 36:12Speaker 1: will be no cease fire until you open up the
- 36:16Speaker 1: Straight of harmorves and it is free and clear for
- 36:18Speaker 1: all vessels. End stop periods, stopped talking about it. The
- 36:22Speaker 1: strategic Waterway has been a bottleneck of global tension for
- 36:25Speaker 1: the last month, and the President warned that military operations
- 36:28Speaker 1: will continue and that quote, we will blast Iran into
- 36:32Speaker 1: oblivion until you open it up and let the oil
- 36:35Speaker 1: flow freely. Just hours after President Trump posted that and
- 36:39Speaker 1: it went viral. Then the Iranian Foreign minister called the
- 36:41Speaker 1: claim of a ceasefire false and baseless. Of course, they
- 36:45Speaker 1: have to play tough. That's how they always do. The
- 36:48Speaker 1: spokesperson for the regime says the president's narrative does not
- 36:51Speaker 1: reflect reality and that Iran remains determined to win. I'm sorry,
- 36:58Speaker 1: win it what. Ninety percent of your navy, air force
- 37:02Speaker 1: and drones are blown to smithereens what? Anyway? In a
- 37:06Speaker 1: defiant interview with Al Jazeera TV, the Iranian Foreign minister
- 37:10Speaker 1: doubled down, saying you cannot speak to the people of
- 37:12Speaker 1: Iran in the language of threats and deadlines. Well, Washington
- 37:16Speaker 1: says Iran is begging for a deal behind the scenes.
- 37:20Speaker 1: This creates a massive disconnect out of President Trump's address, which,
- 37:24Speaker 1: by the way, he will be addressing the nation right
- 37:26Speaker 1: here on One American News right after this show at
- 37:30Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern. You gotta stick around for that. And
- 37:33Speaker 1: while the diplomatic war of words intensifies, Trump already well
- 37:37Speaker 1: eyeing an exit strategy. He told it's four to six weeks.
- 37:40Speaker 1: In a series of bold statements, the president's signal of
- 37:42Speaker 1: the US military could be out of a ran quote
- 37:44Speaker 1: pretty quickly, probably in the next two to three weeks.
- 37:48Speaker 1: Speaking to reporters, Trump claims his primary objective, which was
- 37:51Speaker 1: making sure they never ever created nukes or ballistic missiles,
- 37:55Speaker 1: has already been achieved. He described the current mission as
- 37:58Speaker 1: a total degradation of a strategic capabilities, suggesting that even
- 38:03Speaker 1: if a formal ceasefire isn't signed, American major combat operations
- 38:07Speaker 1: are nearing the end. That's good news, especially for Americans
- 38:12Speaker 1: feeling the pain at the pump. But if we don't
- 38:15Speaker 1: get that opened up, that's the key. So as for
- 38:19Speaker 1: the stalled oil tankers in the Strait, Trump said, countries
- 38:22Speaker 1: that rely on the oil should help secure it themselves.
- 38:26Speaker 1: And if they want the oil, why don't you come
- 38:29Speaker 1: and take it. Of course, he's talking to a bunch
- 38:32Speaker 1: of the countries in the EU who don't want to
- 38:35Speaker 1: help us, but they want that oil here now away
- 38:38Speaker 1: in on the latest dealings with the RAM. He's the
- 38:41Speaker 1: host of the rob manis Shore Retired Air Force combat
- 38:43Speaker 1: Vet Colonel Rob manis back on real America. Colonel, Nice
- 38:47Speaker 1: to see you. You know how these folks do in
- 38:50Speaker 1: that region sounds like a lot of hubbub because we
- 38:54Speaker 1: know that whit Coff and Kushner are over there. I
- 38:56Speaker 1: forget what country, but a neutral Middle East country you'll
- 38:58Speaker 1: fill me in Negotia, and those negotiators are signaling to
- 39:02Speaker 1: them they want to make a deal. But obviously the
- 39:06Speaker 1: leaders over here have to act tough to the few
- 39:09Speaker 1: followers they have left. Am I wrong or am I right?
- 39:12Speaker 10: Oh?
- 39:12Speaker 13: Yeah, their propaganda machine is ongoing. But in the meantime,
- 39:18Speaker 13: we are meeting our military objectives. Dan, you lay them
- 39:22Speaker 13: out there, you know, destroy the ballistic missile capability all
- 39:25Speaker 13: the way down through the production, destroy their navy all
- 39:29Speaker 13: the way down through the production. Keep them and prevent
- 39:33Speaker 13: them from ever getting a nuclear weapon. I look forward
- 39:37Speaker 13: to seeing how that exactly is going.
- 39:39Speaker 10: To be executed.
- 39:40Speaker 13: I'm confident that it will be, and I don't think
- 39:44Speaker 13: there will be a non permissive environment, so to speak.
- 39:49Speaker 13: And then the fourth thing is stop them from ever
- 39:53Speaker 13: being able to use their proxies again.
- 39:56Speaker 10: To eliminate those proxies.
- 39:58Speaker 13: That's key, those four things are, and we are accomplishing
- 40:01Speaker 13: those objectives. Every time the Secretary or the Chairman or
- 40:05Speaker 13: Admiral Cooper, the Sentcom commander comes out, they talk in
- 40:09Speaker 13: the terms of those military objectives. And I think that's
- 40:12Speaker 13: why the President. One of the reasons he sounds so
- 40:15Speaker 13: confident is because we are just absolutely decimating these capabilities
- 40:21Speaker 13: and it will be a very very very long time
- 40:24Speaker 13: if ever they're able to rebuild the infrastructure necessary just
- 40:29Speaker 13: to do production on it, right.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Just to make make it just to mix for a
- 40:32Speaker 1: jet or a drone.
- 40:33Speaker 14: Right.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Rout up a good point about partners over their allies
- 40:41Speaker 1: and stuff, and I brought it up earlier, and I
- 40:42Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about that because you got Hamas
- 40:46Speaker 1: Whuti's Hesbela Hesbela primarily Lebanon, Israel, IDF. They've been striking
- 40:52Speaker 1: them and trying to take Hesbala out Hamas folks obviously
- 40:55Speaker 1: over in Gaza and in Iran, and I know Isral's
- 40:57Speaker 1: been doing strikes on Hamas who these That's a differ
- 41:00Speaker 1: story down on the African continent. I know we got
- 41:02Speaker 1: to take them out as well, and I think Trump's
- 41:04Speaker 1: gonna start talking about that down in Nigeria very soon.
- 41:07Speaker 1: So that's the key though, right, because all the death
- 41:10Speaker 1: and destruction over the last forty six years of this
- 41:12Speaker 1: regime came through them financing those through terror groups. I mean,
- 41:16Speaker 1: Iran did some directly themselves, but they always got to
- 41:19Speaker 1: hide behind their proxies.
- 41:20Speaker 13: Colonel yeah, exactly. So after they surrender, which I believe
- 41:25Speaker 13: truly that they are going to surrender, I don't know
- 41:29Speaker 13: who the Foreign Minister is right now, or their or
- 41:32Speaker 13: their public affairs officer, this talking crew they have.
- 41:35Speaker 10: Left, Yeah, who do they have left?
- 41:37Speaker 13: But the President's not talking to those two guys, it's
- 41:39Speaker 13: my understanding. But that person must be sounding reasonable and
- 41:45Speaker 13: must be showing them that they have that they have
- 41:47Speaker 13: enough capability and power to keep and get things under control.
- 41:52Speaker 13: So I hope that what we see the president do
- 41:54Speaker 13: is announce that you know when the hostilities are going
- 41:58Speaker 13: to end, and hopefully that we will be taking control
- 42:02Speaker 13: of their rich uranum in a permissive environment, not in
- 42:06Speaker 13: a combat environment. Right, And that the people that own
- 42:10Speaker 13: the three or four little islands and the Strait of
- 42:12Speaker 13: Horror Moves before the Iranians stole them, will be taking
- 42:17Speaker 13: them back and controlling the Straight of Horror Moves. And
- 42:21Speaker 13: that's places like the United Era Memorates and those kind
- 42:24Speaker 13: of places.
- 42:24Speaker 1: And they're helping us. Those countries are helping out and
- 42:28Speaker 1: agreeing with what we're doing more than the EU. And
- 42:30Speaker 1: the EU needs the oil in the natural gas. So
- 42:32Speaker 1: as Trump called them out, I mean he's ready to
- 42:33Speaker 1: pull out a NATO if they don't want to get
- 42:35Speaker 1: up there and help open the straight up, because they're
- 42:37Speaker 1: the one that need the natural gas and oil we don't. Colonel,
- 42:41Speaker 1: as always, thank you for chiming in. Appreciate you have
- 42:44Speaker 1: a good day. Thanks Sam Yep stick around up next
- 42:47Speaker 1: to Republican Gubna tooil candidate for Colorado, Victor Marks, will
- 42:50Speaker 1: join us. Don't go away, We'll be right back. For
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- 43:32Speaker 1: a rare showing of unity, lawmakers in DC passed a
- 43:36Speaker 1: major legislative package aimed at dismantling human trafficking networks. And
- 43:42Speaker 1: you know, we make that a big deal and say
- 43:44Speaker 1: it's a rare, you know, show of unity because it
- 43:46Speaker 1: never happens in DC. But also think of the subject matter,
- 43:50Speaker 1: like helping seniors, helping our veterans, helping find traffic kids.
- 43:54Speaker 1: That should be four hundred and thirty five every time
- 43:58Speaker 1: the House votes, that should be one hundred votes every
- 44:00Speaker 1: time the Senate votes on any of those issues. And
- 44:02Speaker 1: anytime you see somebody dissenting away from that, call them out.
- 44:07Speaker 1: The Enhancing Detection of Human Trafficking Act sailed to the
- 44:11Speaker 1: House last month with bipartisan support. Probably didn't hear about it, though,
- 44:15Speaker 1: because everybody's complaining about the war. Now. This signals a
- 44:18Speaker 1: massive shift in how the federal government targets labor and
- 44:22Speaker 1: sexual exploitation. The core of this bill transforms Department of
- 44:26Speaker 1: Labor employees into frontline defense, providing them with specialized training
- 44:30Speaker 1: to spot the invisible warning signs of the trafficking during
- 44:35Speaker 1: routine workplace inspections. This is great, supporters say. This move
- 44:39Speaker 1: goes beyond being reactive with policing and creative a proactive
- 44:43Speaker 1: net to actually catch the traffickers who hide in plane
- 44:47Speaker 1: sight within our American economy, because you know, folks, there's
- 44:51Speaker 1: people out there that own businesses that are just fine
- 44:53Speaker 1: looking the other way and using child labor. The legislation
- 44:57Speaker 1: currently awaiting review or committee vote before it can be
- 45:00Speaker 1: brought to the full Senate for a vote. This as
- 45:03Speaker 1: a fierce battle over how to punish child sex offenders
- 45:07Speaker 1: has come to a grinding halt in the Colorado state capital. Now,
- 45:11Speaker 1: why would that be? Wouldn't you want to give these
- 45:14Speaker 1: guys the max when they sell kids for sex, or
- 45:18Speaker 1: use them for sex, or create porns with kids? Me
- 45:21Speaker 1: come on. Lawmakers in their Senate committee in that state
- 45:25Speaker 1: have officially killed a controversy bill that would have stripped
- 45:29Speaker 1: judges of any ability to grant probation for certain felony
- 45:33Speaker 1: sexual assaults against kids. The Protections Against Child Rape Act
- 45:38Speaker 1: aimed to mandate prison time for class three and Class
- 45:41Speaker 1: four felonies, but it hit a wall during a heated
- 45:44Speaker 1: Judiciary committee hearing. Opponents argued the bill was too broad,
- 45:49Speaker 1: claiming it could inadvertently ensnare younger offenders or victims of
- 45:54Speaker 1: trafficking themselves. The decision has left families and advocates outraged.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Argue the current system allows most heinous predators to walk
- 46:03Speaker 1: free on supervision in Colorado instead of behind bars where
- 46:08Speaker 1: they belong. I don't care if it's your first defense
- 46:11Speaker 1: or your fiftieth defense. I don't care if you're twenty
- 46:14Speaker 1: or you're eighty. You're touching kids, you're trafficking kids, you're
- 46:17Speaker 1: doing kid porno. You go to prison. How is that
- 46:21Speaker 1: so difficult? Our next guest has been a rescuer of children,
- 46:25Speaker 1: and he's darn good at it, along with a lot
- 46:27Speaker 1: of other things he's done in his life, like founding
- 46:30Speaker 1: the all things possible ministries and serving as a United
- 46:33Speaker 1: States Marine and now he's hoping to serve the people
- 46:36Speaker 1: of the great state of Colorado. Let's welcome back to
- 46:38Speaker 1: the program, my friend and Colorado GOP goobernatorial candidate now,
- 46:43Speaker 1: Victor Marx. Hey, Victor, how are you, my friend?
- 46:46Speaker 14: I'm doing great, Dan, thanks for having me on.
- 46:50Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about a lot of stuff.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Can we first begin with this bill that got stalled
- 46:53Speaker 1: in your state Senate, because I'm sure you're fired up
- 46:56Speaker 1: about it, and if you were the gov, I bet
- 46:58Speaker 1: you'd be taking a trip over to the Senate and raising.
- 46:59Speaker 14: Some Hell sure what I'd be having gentlemen and gentlewomen
- 47:04Speaker 14: visiting me in my office. You know, the thing with
- 47:08Speaker 14: children should be absolutely the one thing everyone agrees on,
- 47:12Speaker 14: just like you said about human trafficking. Yeah, a state
- 47:14Speaker 14: that doesn't protect their children as very telling in regards
- 47:18Speaker 14: to the leadership. So Colorado is self done. Crime, doesn't fundwell, police,
- 47:25Speaker 14: handcuffed on police. We have many soft judges and prosecutors
- 47:30Speaker 14: that fail to prosecute. So that's one of the reasons
- 47:33Speaker 14: why I'm leading in the polls everywhere is that people
- 47:36Speaker 14: know I'll be criminal's worst enemy and lawmakers and law
- 47:42Speaker 14: enforcement officers' best friend who do the right thing.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about the federal one that was
- 47:49Speaker 1: just passed though. That had to be some good news
- 47:51Speaker 1: for a guy that goes out and tracks down the
- 47:53Speaker 1: kids that are getting trafficked, either sexually or for labor trafficking.
- 47:57Speaker 1: And I was glad to see there was some unity
- 47:59Speaker 1: in washing in DC at least on that one. I
- 48:02Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on that. As far as
- 48:04Speaker 1: going after the business owners that are doing this garbage.
- 48:08Speaker 14: Yeah, well, you know, we founded Protecting Children's Innocence Task
- 48:12Speaker 14: Force and right now we're doing great work in the
- 48:14Speaker 14: state of Florida. Some states are very they give pushback.
- 48:20Speaker 14: But what we see with the federal government coming together,
- 48:23Speaker 14: and it's simply a matter of people holding those who
- 48:27Speaker 14: they elect, those politicians, those who they put in place
- 48:31Speaker 14: of responsibility and authority, hold them accountable if they're not
- 48:35Speaker 14: protecting women and children. I'm telling you as simple as that.
- 48:39Speaker 14: This is where positive per pressure makes a difference.
- 48:42Speaker 1: Yeah. Amen, I mean, let's think about this and let's
- 48:46Speaker 1: get very political and throw the folks under the bus
- 48:49Speaker 1: that deserve it. The pushback you were talking about, I
- 48:52Speaker 1: would assume is usually always blue states. Why is it
- 48:55Speaker 1: that democrats want to look the other way or protect
- 48:59Speaker 1: the damn pre editors more than the victims. You hear
- 49:02Speaker 1: it all the time. Well, wait a minute, it was
- 49:04Speaker 1: a young offender, it was his first time, or you know,
- 49:07Speaker 1: maybe probation, a slap on the risk as he messed up.
- 49:09Speaker 1: The person was only sixteen, Like, why are they always
- 49:12Speaker 1: making excuses for the bad guys and not helping the victims? Victor, Well,
- 49:19Speaker 1: I'd say this one.
- 49:21Speaker 14: They're following their political line and it's a matter of
- 49:26Speaker 14: not doing what's right by the people. But they're doing
- 49:30Speaker 14: what they feel like there, I would say, those who
- 49:33Speaker 14: put them in power expect of them to hold the
- 49:36Speaker 14: political party. The other thing, and I need people to
- 49:39Speaker 14: understand what I'm going to say with this is there
- 49:42Speaker 14: some people that have done very bad things in dark
- 49:46Speaker 14: and there are people who hold this over their head
- 49:49Speaker 14: when it comes I'm for voting, and I'm talking about
- 49:52Speaker 14: photos and videos of To me, the most powerful currency
- 49:58Speaker 14: in the world right now is an adult doing horrible
- 50:01Speaker 14: things with children, and a lot of control is being
- 50:06Speaker 14: had over politicians because of this. I mean luck what
- 50:09Speaker 14: just happened with someone's sexual proclivity to cross dress? It is,
- 50:16Speaker 14: it has changed a lot of things. So when you
- 50:20Speaker 14: start talking children are trafficking and they have videos or film,
- 50:27Speaker 14: it's a powerful chess piece over someone to make bad decisions.
- 50:30Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point. And some
- 50:33Speaker 1: of these folks on the left and the right, but
- 50:35Speaker 1: I would say more on the left probably sure probably
- 50:38Speaker 1: have some splaining to do if we could ever get
- 50:40Speaker 1: ahold of those picks and videos. But you're right, people
- 50:42Speaker 1: use that as blackmailing currency. Two last ones real quick
- 50:45Speaker 1: before we talk about the campaign, and that is two
- 50:48Speaker 1: great Scotus rulings in the last month and a half.
- 50:51Speaker 1: And I know I see you smiling. We had the
- 50:53Speaker 1: one that pertained to a lawsuit out of California where
- 50:56Speaker 1: I live, unfortunately, where they were hiding it from the parents.
- 51:00Speaker 1: If a kid wanted to go transit school, we called
- 51:03Speaker 1: different pronouns and names and change their clothes at school.
- 51:07Speaker 1: No more of that crap. Scotis rule on that about
- 51:09Speaker 1: a month and a half ago, and then I think
- 51:10Speaker 1: it was just this week. The other big one out
- 51:12Speaker 1: of your state related to a case there where they
- 51:15Speaker 1: wanted to shut down counselors and therapists from talking kids
- 51:19Speaker 1: out of getting this life changing surgery or taking these
- 51:23Speaker 1: drugs that change their makeup of their body. And so
- 51:27Speaker 1: two big wins for sanity, for God, for science, and
- 51:31Speaker 1: another kick in the teeth to the trans agenda. Victor,
- 51:35Speaker 1: what say you, hey.
- 51:36Speaker 14: Look, when eight Supreme Court justices, including liberals like Kegan
- 51:40Speaker 14: sol Tomorrow, say Colorado went too far, we know that's
- 51:44Speaker 14: not a partisan talking point. That's a constitutional wake up call.
- 51:48Speaker 1: Good point, great point, all right, Vic, final one's an
- 51:51Speaker 1: easy one. How's the campaign going, because, man, do I
- 51:54Speaker 1: want to say, my friend Victor Marx is the governor
- 51:58Speaker 1: of Colorado in a few months. How you doing well?
- 52:01Speaker 14: Well, we have the primaries coming up June thirtieth, yep.
- 52:05Speaker 14: And I can say this, we got over twenty eight thousand,
- 52:09Speaker 14: five hundred and forty one signatures that put me on
- 52:12Speaker 14: the ballot, and then we're also honoring the process by
- 52:14Speaker 14: going through the Assembly, and it bails down to this
- 52:17Speaker 14: who can be elected in November and the state, the
- 52:22Speaker 14: people of Colorado are getting behind someone that is absolutely
- 52:26Speaker 14: tired of it. And you know what, We're tired of
- 52:28Speaker 14: running we're taired of making excuses and we're tired of losing. Well,
- 52:32Speaker 14: we're being aggressive in our campaign, standing for what's right,
- 52:36Speaker 14: and this is the time that things change. I think
- 52:38Speaker 14: not only in Colorado, but California too. I'm just the
- 52:43Speaker 14: people rising up.
- 52:44Speaker 1: Look, you're at the top of the polls in a
- 52:46Speaker 1: blue state. My friend Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton, both
- 52:49Speaker 1: those Republicans are at the top of polls over Eric
- 52:52Speaker 1: Swallowell and Katie Porter in Camifornia. There's a lot of
- 52:56Speaker 1: places where the people are speaking and the pungits that's
- 52:59Speaker 1: the CNN analysts and all the idiots that are like, oh,
- 53:01Speaker 1: this will never happen. Well, the people have been sick
- 53:04Speaker 1: and tired of this liberal woke crap and especially the
- 53:07Speaker 1: four years of Biden, and man, I know, if you
- 53:10Speaker 1: get it, you're going to turn Colorado around. It is
- 53:13Speaker 1: Victor twenty twenty six dot com to learn more about
- 53:16Speaker 1: Victor Marx's bid to become the next governor. Over there, Vic,
- 53:18Speaker 1: get back on that campaign trail. Man, love seeing you.
- 53:21Speaker 14: We're hitting it. God bless you.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Yep, God bless you. What a great guy. If you
- 53:25Speaker 1: live in Colorado, folks, look him up vote for him.
- 53:27Speaker 1: He is a good good man. Stay with us. You're
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