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Costco Poking the Trump Bear | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, Costco and this is a Costco story, but
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  Speaker 2: not a food story, which is rather unusual on this show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's part of a food story.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there are certain costcos regionally that sell balls.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, this is a legal concept that Costco
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  Speaker 2: has balls, and what does that mean? Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: public companies and Costco, obviously it's a big public company,
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  Speaker 2: have mostly treated the president with kid gloves during the
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  Speaker 2: second term. They've avoided conflict seeking, favor ornate gifts, large
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  Speaker 2: donations to Pet project, strategic deployments of CEOs to the
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  Speaker 2: Oval Office.
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  Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal said today, if you literally.
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  Speaker 2: And this was a term they use, if you declare
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  Speaker 2: the magnificence of President Trump, then you are going to
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  Speaker 2: be treated very well. Another pardon a democrat, but who
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  Speaker 2: was being looked at for serious financial crimes, who, as
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat in Congress, consistently talked about and derided Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden's policy on immigration, has now been pardoned. Again, if
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  Speaker 2: you believe in the president, you're in pretty good shape.
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  Speaker 1: So what did Costco do Well?
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  Speaker 2: They filed a lawsuit that contends that Trump overstepped his
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  Speaker 2: emergency powers by imposing those sweeping tariffs and claiming that
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  Speaker 2: the company is to a refund because, as President Trump
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  Speaker 2: has said, it's the countries that sell to us that
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  Speaker 2: are paying the tariffs. They are not we are paying
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  Speaker 2: the tariffs. And when we buy at Costco Walmart, that
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  Speaker 2: bring in products from China, for example, they end up
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  Speaker 2: paying the terriffs. Sometimes they suck it up, sometimes they
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  Speaker 2: pass it on, and Costco is saying we want a refund.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, they're not alone either Bumblebee Foods, Ray
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  Speaker 2: Bands the president the parent company, Revlon Kawasaki. But Costco
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  Speaker 2: is the highest profile public company. And why is this
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  Speaker 2: such a big deal Because very few major corporations have
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  Speaker 2: been willing to stick their necks out, which is very
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  Speaker 2: different than Trump's first term, where the businesses and leaders
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  Speaker 2: felt a lot more comfortable speaking out.
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  Speaker 1: And now multiple CEOs.
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  Speaker 2: Have lined up to go into the Oval Office to
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  Speaker 2: DEI programs are gone. Trump's second term has largely been
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  Speaker 2: major corporations sucking up. Big business has enjoyed his regulatory policies,
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  Speaker 2: particularly on AI that makes sense business wise. I don't
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  Speaker 2: have a problem with that. I don't agree with it,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't have a problem but getting on his
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  Speaker 2: good sized side that is a big deal. Tariffs very
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  Speaker 2: unpopular with Americans because the affordability crisis that we have
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  Speaker 2: are connected to our view of the terriffs. A CBS
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  Speaker 2: News poll say that thirty eight percent of Americans favor
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  Speaker 2: new tariffs a majority sixty two percent oppose. So Costco
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  Speaker 2: is not going to get too many people pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: What they're going to do is get the government pissed
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  Speaker 2: off this administration. Now, as far as the lawsuit is concerned,
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court appears ready to declare those tariffs ill legal,
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  Speaker 2: that Trump in fact overstepped his Congress, because overstep the
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  Speaker 2: Congress in his authority, because the law says that Congress
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  Speaker 2: imposes tariffs, not the president, and he is arguing that economics,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in this country financially is an emergency
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  Speaker 2: situation where he has to come in, much like when
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  Speaker 2: war is declared, it's an emergency situation, and he has
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  Speaker 2: declared that the balance of trade is enough of emergency,
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  Speaker 2: a national emergency, that he has to come in and
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  Speaker 2: deal with it with tariffs.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the court's going to buy that.
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  Speaker 2: There's and not that many companies have been in favor
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  Speaker 2: or have gone against the president. In April, White House
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  Speaker 2: Secretary Caroline Levitt held up a photo of Jeff Bezos
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  Speaker 2: she did in a press briefing and said that the
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  Speaker 2: company is considering advertising tariffs costs to comfort to customers
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  Speaker 2: that was the first time and Trump threatened the company. Also,
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  Speaker 2: Walmart said it would raise prices because of the tariffs.
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  Speaker 2: The Trump administration at that point said that that company
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  Speaker 2: may maybe hit with additional costs. Tim Cook, the CEO
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  Speaker 2: of Apple, promised an additional one hundred billion dollars in
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  Speaker 2: US investment, which Trump is doing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the point.
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  Speaker 2: Of all this is to bring investment into the United States,
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  Speaker 2: create jobs, to build factories.
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  Speaker 1: Understood. I mean, there's no issue in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: That is his goal. That's his motivation. Now how he
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  Speaker 2: gets there is something else. He believes his tariffs. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people don't. A lot of people think the
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  Speaker 2: legal system believe that he doesn't have the authority to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 1: And what's going up to the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: Incidentally, when Tim Cook went to the White House, he
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  Speaker 2: presented the President with a plaque and with a twenty
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  Speaker 2: four carrot gold base solid gold base. Isn't that special,
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  Speaker 2: you bet? And that's not unusual. And again it's which
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  Speaker 2: companies are going to have the balls to stand up
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  Speaker 2: and Costco's the biggest at this point, the most the
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  Speaker 2: biggest public company willing to do that, and they take
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  Speaker 2: real chances of dealing with the president's I r. The
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  Speaker 2: president has enormous power, as you know. And boy, it
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  Speaker 2: is so simple with this president. There is nothing complicated
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  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And he said that in his agenda. His agenda is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what he said when he was running. You like me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to take care of you. You don't like me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to basically destroy you. It's simple and it's tough,
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  Speaker 2: all right. A lot going on in Washington with Pete Hesith,
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  Speaker 2: the Secretary of War not Defense, and it has to
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  Speaker 2: do with one of those drug boats that were leaving Venezuela,
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  Speaker 2: the ones that are being attacked by the president. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I believe those are drug boats. I
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  Speaker 2: have no problem with blowing them out of the water.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is legally does the president have the authority
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  Speaker 2: to do that, And that's gonna up through the courts.
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  Speaker 2: But here's what happened in this boat incident in September.
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  Speaker 2: There was a double hit, which means the boat exploded,
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  Speaker 2: which you've seen videos of those boats exploded, and there
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  Speaker 2: were two survivors that were clinging to the wreckage, and
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  Speaker 2: the aircraft took both of them out, attacked both of them.
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  Speaker 2: International law says you can't do that when someone is
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  Speaker 2: no longer a threat done, and the President has said
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  Speaker 2: that the threat is drugs coming into the country. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll buy that, and therefore it's a national emergency. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I can see that argument. But a couple of guys
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  Speaker 2: clinging to wreckage in the Caribbean, that's a different story.
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  Speaker 2: I mean really, Okay, So now heg seth. This is
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  Speaker 2: a great story. Heg seth as it broke on CNN,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it was also the Wall Street Journal
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  Speaker 2: said that it was fake news, that that never happened.
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  Speaker 2: Then it turned around that okay, it happened, but the
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  Speaker 2: decision to do it was not mine. It was the
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  Speaker 2: commander of that area who made the decision, and I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't in the room when that decision was made. I
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  Speaker 2: was there when the first attack, was there what happened,
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  Speaker 2: but then I left right after that, and I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: aware that the second attack happened, although he had said
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  Speaker 2: previously he was there the entire time and he didn't
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  Speaker 2: make the decision.
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  Speaker 1: It was the commander made the decision.
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  Speaker 2: And Caroline Levitt, who is the Press secretary after all this,
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  Speaker 2: said that whatever happened was within the confines, the authority
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  Speaker 2: that he had, within the president's authority. Not denying any
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  Speaker 2: of that happen. It's just this is all legal. And
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  Speaker 2: then heg Seth comes back and says, this is the.
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  Speaker 1: Fog of war. That's what this is about. Simply the
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  Speaker 1: fogs of war.
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  Speaker 2: And let me tell you who it's pissing off a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Republicans GOP. Senator Roger white Wicker, who chairs
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  Speaker 2: the Senate Armed Services Committee, has pledged a vigorous oversight.
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  Speaker 2: They are not happy. I mean, the Democrats is a given.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever Trump does, they're unhappy with it. But even you
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  Speaker 2: have the os by the way, so Washington Post and
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  Speaker 2: CNN that released the information about it. And I got
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  Speaker 2: to tell you where this is going to go. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know within the administration.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to go.
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  Speaker 2: No place the president has backed heg Seth one, although
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  Speaker 2: on Air Force one, he goes, I didn't know it happened.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't make any decision about it. Yeah, it shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have happened. I wouldn't have ordered that second strike, but
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know anything at all.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's going to go to.
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  Speaker 2: General Bradley, who is in charge of that area. He's
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  Speaker 2: the commander of four of the forces in the Caribbean.
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  Speaker 1: And what does he say?
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  Speaker 2: He is going to have to roll over and say, yep,
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  Speaker 2: I made the decision and pete Hegseth never I was
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  Speaker 2: never given any orders at all. I did it on
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  Speaker 2: my own. And does he suck it up? Do does
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  Speaker 2: he retire? Does is he fired? For example? Because Hegseth
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  Speaker 2: has fired many senior military officers, many of them he
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  Speaker 2: cleaned out the joint the Joint chiefs or the joint Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Joint chiefs of Staff. I think Joint Chiefs is
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  Speaker 2: one cleaned out the you know, the five guys who
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  Speaker 2: run the armed services.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the chiefs of staff. My mind goes
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  Speaker 1: crazy on this one.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think that he's gonna suck it up.
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  Speaker 2: He's not gonna be he is not going to be well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he will, maybe he will, maybe he'll be fired.
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  Speaker 2: Is he going to be brought back to be court
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  Speaker 2: martialed like Mark Kelly, the astronaut who's a Democrat who
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  Speaker 2: was one of those five who did the video against
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, where HeiG Seth has said basically or the
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  Speaker 2: President has said these five senators and congress people are
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  Speaker 2: traders and should be tried and given the death sentence.
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  Speaker 2: But they're all Democrats, and so I can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: see what happens on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they've overstepped, maybe and do I. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: what I believe.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that it's Hexseth who made the decision, gave
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  Speaker 2: the order to go ahead and take out those survivors.
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  Speaker 2: And the quote is that I don't want any survivors,
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  Speaker 2: I believe was the quote. And now the heads are
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  Speaker 2: going to roll. The President didn't know anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Hegset didn't know anything about it. I don't have any idea.
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  Speaker 2: And when he said I saw it all in real time,
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  Speaker 2: I really didn't see it all in real time. I
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  Speaker 2: left right after the first strike, so I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what happened, right, and now it's just a fog of war.
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  Speaker 1: Oh isn't life wonderful?
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  Speaker 2: It's time for doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for
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  Speaker 2: Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, and Jim,
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he just dropped out.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll call back, but I want to give a
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  Speaker 2: little backstory before he joins us. It was very important
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  Speaker 2: for me to have my daughters not get tattoos. Matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, that was part of my trust, my trust
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  Speaker 2: that literally said you will not get tattoos. If you
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  Speaker 2: get a tattoo, you are disinherited. And so they didn't
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  Speaker 2: get tattoos almost, No, they didn't until a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago where Barbara said, can I get one little
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  Speaker 2: tiny tattoo? I said, okay, the damn broke open. Now
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  Speaker 2: she is tatted up all over the place. Now I
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  Speaker 2: feel differently because Lindsay when I met her and even now.
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  Speaker 1: Is pretty tatted up. Neil is fairly tatted Okay, So, Jim.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard about everybody I know,
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  Speaker 2: well everybody Neil and my daughter Barbara pretty tatted up.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a story out there about tattoo ink
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  Speaker 2: and that is not good news. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tattoo ink. So it doesn't stay put. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually surprised to how common mice, you know, how consistent
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  Speaker 3: mice lymphatic systems are too ours because we knew this,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you dissect bodies in medical school, if
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  Speaker 3: they had tattoos, a lot of times you'll find tattoo
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  Speaker 3: ink in the actual lymph node. So you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: we knew this about humans, and so they did this
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  Speaker 3: in mice. It turns out that the ink also moves
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  Speaker 3: in mice. And so what they looked at in this
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  Speaker 3: study was what impact does it have on immune response,
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  Speaker 3: especially to vaccinations. So the headline was that it reduces
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  Speaker 3: the vaccinations. That's actually wrong for the study. It does not.
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  Speaker 3: It reduces the response to some vaccines and increases the
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  Speaker 3: response to others. So you know what happens is they
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  Speaker 3: inject They used covid vaccine and they also used flu
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  Speaker 3: vaccine in the In the flu vaccine, we're injecting the
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  Speaker 3: actual you know, the virus itself. So if your immune
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  Speaker 3: systems all ramped up from tattoo inc then it actually
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  Speaker 3: responds better and improves the respond In the covid vaccine,
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  Speaker 3: we're injecting RNA that makes a spike protein of the
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  Speaker 3: virus that you're trying to prevent, and then your body
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  Speaker 3: of a response to that, and in that case it
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  Speaker 3: reduced the efficacy of the vaccine itself. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: in this study they mentioned it, and in the past
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  Speaker 3: we've also known that tattoos increased your risk of lymphoma.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we don't know why exactly, but they seem
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  Speaker 3: to be associated with them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little confused. Either vaccines are good for you
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  Speaker 2: or they're bad. I mean, tattoos are either good for
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  Speaker 2: you or they're bad for you. And is it both simultaneously.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean so, yeah, I wouldn't recommend getting a
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  Speaker 3: tattoo just so that your flu vaccine had a better
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  Speaker 3: response rate. Now, but it is a mixed study here,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't show that it's you know that
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  Speaker 3: across the board reduces the response to vaccines. It just
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  Speaker 3: reduces the response to covide vaccine. So of course you
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  Speaker 3: should try to avoid trying to get a vaccination, especially
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  Speaker 3: soon after you've had a tattoo. You want to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you'd want to try and get your vaccine first if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to get a covide vaccine. Otherwise. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 3: you know, the tattoos in general, you know, and it
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  Speaker 3: brings up a lot of these issues about the lymphoma,
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  Speaker 3: about the skin cancer, about the risk of tattooing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's not regulated, it's well, it is as a cosmetic
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  Speaker 3: but just like what we measure, how we put things
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  Speaker 3: on your skin if you don't have a skin reaction
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  Speaker 3: to it when it's put on your skin. The FDA
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: approves these materials, so they don't actually approve anything for
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  Speaker 3: injection into yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right, two questions. Do you do you have any tattoos?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't have any.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, would you be concerned about getting a tattoo?
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  Speaker 3: I guess you know. You weigh the risk increased versus
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  Speaker 3: the benefit, and I probably would never get a massive tattoo.
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  Speaker 3: But I hear the tattoo, the higher the risk. Right,
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  Speaker 3: So I wanted to put somebody's initials on my body
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. I can't imagine that either, but
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  Speaker 3: if I did, I probably would still do it a
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  Speaker 3: tiny little tattoo, but anything big i'd be more concerned about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm considering a tattoo on my arm, and it
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  Speaker 2: would say this is not a tattoo, that would just
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  Speaker 2: be Neil.
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  Speaker 1: Neil is so tattooed that I'm not overly tattooed. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: I do have some.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen Neil naked, and let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: tattoos are well.
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  Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna go into that with Neil's and my
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  Speaker 1: daughter looking at the tattoos, haying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know you thought, here's the problem is
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  Speaker 2: you ran out of space because you were putting. I
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  Speaker 2: come from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, across you know where, and it
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  Speaker 2: just didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna come to Jim. Topic number two.
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  Speaker 2: Men with beer bellies I can face pretty serious heart damage.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to mention any names Neil, but even
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  Speaker 2: if they aren't overweight, and Neil is both no question
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  Speaker 2: about it and doesn't drink beer, which is fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: Not much, not much now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So first of all, Jim, I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about how big is a beer belly before it gets dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's kind of you know, you can't be specific,
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  Speaker 2: but are we talking about those big beer bellies or
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  Speaker 2: even a little one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about forty inch waste. You know, that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the cutoff where people start getting into the
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  Speaker 3: risk zone. That's just a general overall big not very specific.
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  Speaker 3: This study though, is looking at the waste to hip ratio, right,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, if you measure your hips at the
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  Speaker 3: absolute widest part and then you measure your gut, the
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  Speaker 3: gut be about ninety percent of the hip size, right,
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  Speaker 3: so about ten percent less than your hips. For a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people that gut hangs over right, and the
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  Speaker 3: gut is bigger than hips. That's a problem and that
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  Speaker 3: that results in serious heart issues. And this is we
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  Speaker 3: missed this with BMI and weight. Remember weight is kind
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  Speaker 3: of the crudest You can just get on a scale
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  Speaker 3: and get your weight. BMI is a calculation. It's a
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  Speaker 3: little more accurate as to whether you have too much
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  Speaker 3: weight on your body. But where the weight is really matters,
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  Speaker 3: and having it around your organs, you know, centrally located
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  Speaker 3: inside your gut, around your organs, that's metabolically active fat.
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  Speaker 3: That is, it produces inflammatory cytokinds they call them inflammatory
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  Speaker 3: things that come out into your body and put stress
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  Speaker 3: on your body and your heart and then just the
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  Speaker 3: pumping through there. For some reason, it puts a strain
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  Speaker 3: on the heart. And you can get What happens is
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  Speaker 3: the heart gets the muscle gets thickened, the chambers get smaller.
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  Speaker 3: We call that cardiomyopathy or hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. It's usually associated
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  Speaker 3: with high blood pressure. But what we're saying here is, look,
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  Speaker 3: when you have a patient with the big gut to
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  Speaker 3: waste ratio, you need to look into maybe that's the
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  Speaker 3: problem and they need to start losing some of that
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  Speaker 3: that gut fat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that also known as Dunlop's disease. That's when you're
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  Speaker 2: that's when your stomach dunlop over your belt.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, yeah, so it's I mean, and this is
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  Speaker 3: the thing is when we get an ultrasound of the heart,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can we look at ejection fraction as
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  Speaker 3: how your heart's functioning. That's it squeezes out blood, and
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  Speaker 3: we look at how much of the blood it ejects
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  Speaker 3: out of the heart. And this actually shows preserved ejection fractionals.
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  Speaker 3: It's cardiomyopathy with preserved ejection fractures hypertrophic.
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  Speaker 2: When when you see those guys with big beer bellies
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  Speaker 2: as you noticed, it is it I mean, are you
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  Speaker 2: looking at some one that is in real trouble relative
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: to the heart disease?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, this is a it's a real problem and
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  Speaker 3: they probably are going to suffer from heart failure if
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  Speaker 3: they live long enough. And and so it's something that
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  Speaker 3: needs to be corrected.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And there are a lot of people that have low
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: level of heart failure that that aren't even aware of it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: They just think that they have decreased exercise tolerance. So
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  Speaker 3: if you're getting winded easily when you're when you're exercising
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: or working out, you go up one flight of stairs
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: and you're winded, you probably should see your doctor and
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: look into what you can do to fix that. That's
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: not normal.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jim, we'll talking in next week as we
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  Speaker 2: always do. Take care and.
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  Speaker 3: All right, take care.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Neil, you measured you, you had to take measure there
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and you did some measuring.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: As for something else. Kono joke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, sure told you. Ah, there we
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  Speaker 2: go and the tattoo. I just I was born in
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  Speaker 2: tuscal Usa, Alabama. But you couldn't get past the TuS.
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  Speaker 1: I get that. Okay, we are done.
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