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Til Debt Do Us Do Us Part (Part. 1) · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
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  Speaker 2: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 2: talk back.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? It's your girl, AJ Holiday. What's up,
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  Speaker 1: Tam Bam?
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  Speaker 2: Y'all, it's me, Tam Bam. I love y'all. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think they get tired of hearing that same shit every week?
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  Speaker 1: Possibly.
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  Speaker 2: I love y'all any fucking way. We got to have uniformity, okay?
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  Speaker 2: To make sure.
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  Speaker 1: We do all the parts.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, how was your weekend?
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  Speaker 1: My weekend was great. I didn't do shit.
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  Speaker 2: Girl!
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  Speaker 1: All I did was like.
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  Speaker 1: Spend money. Circulate money. Excuse me. I circulated a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: What'd you get?
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  Speaker 1: Just house shit, food. Yeah, grocery shopping is much more
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  Speaker 1: expensive than eating out.
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  Speaker 2: I was just saying that. I was just saying that.
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  Speaker 2: My mom was like, I don't see you cooking no more.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, because it don't make no sense that much.
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  Speaker 2: I'll cook sometimes, but it's just the same price to
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  Speaker 2: eat out.
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  Speaker 1: But you at least get a few meals out from,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from cooking home. But the price of the groceries,
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  Speaker 1: it's fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I got to eat the same shit
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  Speaker 2: a few times.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that might be like one of the
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  Speaker 1: cheat codes of losing weight, like eating the same shit
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  Speaker 1: every day. Like you just got your rice, starch, vegetable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your protein and whatever, like eating the same
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  Speaker 1: shit every day.
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  Speaker 2: It helps.
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  Speaker 1: No, you don't want that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that, but I probably should have started
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  Speaker 2: doing that. I tried today. I didn't order any food.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't DoorDash anything. I didn't go to any restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: So yay for me.
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  Speaker 1: I saw somebody posted, they ordered DoorDash and they realized
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  Speaker 1: like the person was taking a long time to come.
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  Speaker 1: And then the driver messaged and was like, I got
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  Speaker 1: into a car accident. You saw that post?
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  Speaker 2: And he went and he pulled up to get his food.
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  Speaker 1: I sent him $ 20, too. He put his cash app
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  Speaker 1: on there. Shit, man, I know how, once you wreck
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  Speaker 1: your car, especially as a gig worker, like, that's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money probably out of his pocket at this
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  Speaker 1: point that he can't work. Probably his regular job plus
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  Speaker 1: the gig job with no car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to need him a couple dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That was nice of you.
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  Speaker 1: A little hot 20.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Shit be getting me like that all the time,
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  Speaker 2: especially if it's late at night. Like, I done sent
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  Speaker 2: some money I know probably didn't get to who it
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  Speaker 2: really deserved to go to.
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  Speaker 1: That ain't your business, though. You just paying into the universe, girl.
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  Speaker 1: I got to get my chi up. I don't mind. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if you finesse, I'll be the dumb bitch because I
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  Speaker 1: still win.
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  Speaker 2: I got this website on my phone. Y'all can't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not website, an app. Y'all can download it too. It's
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  Speaker 2: called Be My Eyes. And it's like blind people all
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  Speaker 2: over the world are on this app. And you'll get
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  Speaker 2: a phone call. And they'll be like, can you tell
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  Speaker 2: me whatever this is? I can't see it. And you
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  Speaker 2: can read something. You can read recipes for them. You
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  Speaker 2: can do all this. So I've only had my phone
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  Speaker 2: ring two times. Because the ring, I didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was. I was like, where the fuck is that?
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  Speaker 2: Because I forgot I had downloaded the app. And it
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  Speaker 2: was this man, and he wanted me to help him
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  Speaker 2: sort his laundry. So I was like, that's color, that's white.
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  Speaker 2: That's color, that's white. And that was all he wanted. Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to download that.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's so cool. It's called Be My Eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Do they screen the people, though? Because what if the
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  Speaker 1: people can actually see, and they see they want to
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  Speaker 1: call you?
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  Speaker 2: Right, it'd be some bullshit like that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, grab me a nipple for me. Wait, I thought
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't see, bitch. I just want to feel you
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  Speaker 1: through the phone.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, y'all try that. It's cool. What you had
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  Speaker 2: going on this weekend? What did I do this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: I really, honestly, I can't really spend any money. So
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  Speaker 2: I stayed in watching Tyler Perry, Beauty, Beauty in Black.
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  Speaker 2: The new season came out. I stayed because I, I'm
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  Speaker 2: planning my sister's, my sister's having a baby, y'all, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm planning her baby shower and my mom's 70th birthday
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  Speaker 2: party back to back. I ain't got no money for
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  Speaker 2: nothing leisure until after these are done.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, I did that.
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  Speaker 1: How far along your sister?
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  Speaker 2: She is like five months. She's due Christmas Day.
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  Speaker 1: Does she have her gender reveal? Because, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like they do two things now, gender reveal plus a
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  Speaker 1: baby shower.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she is, all right, she is Miranda from
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  Speaker 2: Sex and the City when it comes to Like she's conservative?
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  Speaker 2: Extremely conservative. Like she don't want no gender reveal. She
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  Speaker 2: did like a video and sent it to everybody. Like
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  Speaker 2: a Toy Story AI video and sent it to everybody
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  Speaker 2: for the gender reveal. And I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do anything too much. Let's just see if
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  Speaker 2: we can change the color over the city of Charlotte
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  Speaker 2: at like 8 o'clock on a certain night. She was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's far too much.
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  Speaker 1: Might go viral.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I thought that was a dope idea. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody's turning on those lights. Who's doing it? Right.
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  Speaker 1: They put the gay lights up. They put the rainbow up.
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  Speaker 1: Why we can't get some blue lights or some pink lights?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think she might fuck around and have a boy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, my mama got three girls just like
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  Speaker 1: your mama got three girls. And somehow these niggas be
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  Speaker 1: popping up. I feel like... I don't know what I
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  Speaker 1: would do with a.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, but.
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  Speaker 1: I think she might fuck around and have a boy.
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  Speaker 2: Me too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: He going to be super spoiled. Jeez.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God. He's going to be so spoiled. It ain't
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  Speaker 2: been a boy in our family like 100 years.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: For real.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I do have a nephew, though.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even have a nephew. Just nieces. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Shame.
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  Speaker 2: Only boy.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be cool. My nephew popped up out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Looking just like my sister. Like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: So I watched Beauty in Black and I just want
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  Speaker 2: to say, no, I'm not going to spoil it for
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  Speaker 2: y'all just in case y'all want to watch it and
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  Speaker 2: I'm spoiling it. But Tyler Perry be going too far sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: That nigga nuts. He had some ninjas on that shit.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, what are these ninjas? Like real
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  Speaker 2: life ninjas, girl. Like I just, The story be going
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  Speaker 2: too far, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Like, what the ninjas got to do with it? I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what the premise of that show is.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. So I couldn't even begin to
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  Speaker 1: understand where the ninjas go at.
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  Speaker 2: The ninjas don't go nowhere. That's what I'm saying. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they just... It's a very black story in a very
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  Speaker 2: black place. And then all of a sudden, some ninjas.
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  Speaker 1: Like, black ninjas or Asian ninjas?
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  Speaker 2: No, like, Asian ninjas in, like, the ninja outfit. Like,
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  Speaker 2: kicking ass in the street. And it's just like, what is...
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Perry be doing... I think Tyler Perry be smoking, like,
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  Speaker 2: the best shit that Atlanta got.
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  Speaker 1: He might be on shrooms half the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Shauna Rhymes. Shout out to Shauna. I
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  Speaker 2: know she be drunk.
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  Speaker 1: But that was what.
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  Speaker 2: I mean for the weekend. Let's get in the scene.
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  Speaker 1: So, I saw this article online. It's actually out of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: but I can see it definitely happening here. I know
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  Speaker 1: we've had some cases where doctors... have done this in particular,
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  Speaker 1: but so there's a father and son duo who have
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  Speaker 1: allegedly been banned from donating sperm after fathering hundreds of children.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out, is there like, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if America has like a law, like you can
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  Speaker 1: only donate sperm 10 times. And if the women like here,
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  Speaker 1: the women have to pick you right. To father the kid,
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  Speaker 1: like they get a booklet, I presume, or online or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the people keep picking them. What's the problem? So,
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  Speaker 1: it says a father and son were banned from donating
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  Speaker 1: sperm after the peer allegedly fathered over 600 children total,
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  Speaker 1: which experts said could pose risks to the children and
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  Speaker 1: their families. That's too much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it could be like, especially y'all come from
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  Speaker 2: one community.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So, now all these children are going to have kids
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  Speaker 2: with problems because they're brothers and sisters that don't even
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  Speaker 2: know it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It says, according to the lawsuit and court documents
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  Speaker 1: obtained by the CBC, Quebec Superior Court temporarily instated a
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  Speaker 1: ban against a man and his son for donating sperm
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  Speaker 1: after they allegedly fathered 450 and 160 children each.
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  Speaker 2: That was career sperm ejaculators.
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  Speaker 1: It says, although the lawsuit did not specify which man
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  Speaker 1: fathered more, the lawsuit was reportedly filed by a woman
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  Speaker 1: who had three children using sperm and from one of
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  Speaker 1: the men and a fourth with sperm from another man.
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  Speaker 1: She accused the pair of breaking an agreement in which
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  Speaker 1: they could not father more than 25 and more than
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  Speaker 1: 25 and 10 children each. Like, wait, what? Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: do know, so my homegirl, her friends, they got their
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  Speaker 1: sperm off of Facebook. These black people. What you mean?
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  Speaker 1: A lesbian married couple got their sperm To make their
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  Speaker 1: baby off of a Facebook group. It's niggas in a
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group sending sperm and bitches is really using the
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  Speaker 1: turkey baster to get pregnant. For real. In real life.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't sitting in the sperm because how you keep
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  Speaker 2: it alive? I thought it died.
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  Speaker 1: I guess freeze it. Put it in a cooler. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how they doing it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a real thing. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's cheaper than, you know, going to get it done
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  Speaker 2: the other way but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and and the girl actually conceived they now this
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  Speaker 1: gay couple now has a child together.
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  Speaker 2: But if your baby i ain't gonna say that.
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  Speaker 1: Never mind.
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  Speaker 2: But if your baby say no what are we talking
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  Speaker 2: about what else are we talking about did y'all know
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  Speaker 2: what i was thinking Yeah, that's crazy as hell, man.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is the supply of men that slow?
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  Speaker 2: They must have been fine. Both him and his son
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  Speaker 2: must have been fine, tall, intelligent. I want to see them.
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  Speaker 2: Because why that many bitches pick y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't sound like it's a sperm bank being used.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like this is some Facebook shit, possibly. Because
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  Speaker 1: how you mean they had an agreement?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because a sperm bank would probably take you out
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  Speaker 2: of the options after so many.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, why are all the women choosing these two guys? Like,
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  Speaker 1: it can't possibly be a sperm bank situation.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: that works. I ain't gonna never be looking to have
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  Speaker 1: a baby by my damn self to where I need
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  Speaker 1: a random nigga's sperm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I want a family more than anything.
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  Speaker 2: What Faye just said. What you will know is that
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  Speaker 2: the man you're having a baby by needed $ 15 for
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: a pizza so you could have a baby and some
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: bullshit she said.
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  Speaker 1: Now check that.
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  Speaker 2: Lord have mercy. Larry, what else? So a 30-year wait
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: for justice in Tupac's killing ends with a murder conviction
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  Speaker 2: and under three hours. I know y'all heard about Keefie D.
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  Speaker 2: ass getting exactly what he deserved.
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  Speaker 1: No, exactly what he asked for.
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  Speaker 2: And deserved, because once you start acting like you're pretty
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  Speaker 2: much telling people you committed a murder, then you need
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  Speaker 2: to go to jail. What you thought? Just because it
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  Speaker 2: was 30 years ago?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he tripping.
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  Speaker 2: So it says, Las Vegas, it took close to 30
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  Speaker 2: years for someone to be arrested in the drive-by murder
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  Speaker 2: of rap legend Tupac Shakur, an extraordinary stretch that turned
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  Speaker 2: a young singer's 1996 killing into the stuff of legend
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  Speaker 2: and conspiracy. By contrast, it took less than three hours
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  Speaker 2: for a jury of 12 Clark County, Nevada residents to
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  Speaker 2: convict Dwayne Keefie D. Davis, a former leader in the
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  Speaker 2: Southside Compton Crips, a first degree murder. Less time than
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  Speaker 2: it took closing statements in the trial. So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Keefie D. has written a book, OK, over
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  Speaker 1: these past 30 years. He has spoken about how he
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  Speaker 1: and whomever else killed Tupac ad nauseum on different platforms.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: He even he was on Vlad TV also talking about
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  Speaker 1: how he killed Tupac as well. So he's really just
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  Speaker 1: getting what he asked for. And I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: he didn't actually do what I did here. Like in
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  Speaker 1: the past that a nephew of his who's no longer
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  Speaker 1: with us actually did the shooting.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I think he's the driver. Yeah. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: been trying to get clout. He's been clout chasing for
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  Speaker 1: the last 30 years. He wanted recognition for, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Being the killer of his life. The shooter.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted... Yeah, that's really what it boils down to.
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  Speaker 1: And now your ass going to jail at 63 years old. Like,
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  Speaker 1: that is too old to be getting time. So he's
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  Speaker 1: getting life in prison.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I also read somewhere where he had a
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  Speaker 1: federal immunity. He didn't think about the state. Because the
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  Speaker 1: state of Nevada... is who evicted him, evicted him, convicted him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This nigga is nuts. Well, he's stupid. People slow.
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  Speaker 2: Now he can just be the legend. He want to
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  Speaker 2: be in prison.
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  Speaker 1: I think we'd be forgetting that, you know, like everybody
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  Speaker 1: remember like the kids in that, that class, right? Those
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  Speaker 1: kids grow up too. And they be in society. I
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  Speaker 1: see one of my, not my classmates, but somebody who
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  Speaker 1: was in my, he was not in like LD directly.
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  Speaker 1: We call it LD in Charleston learning disability, but he, he, um,
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  Speaker 1: had some classes. He had some other slow classes. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I seen his ass go viral online because he's in Charlotte,
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  Speaker 1: between Charlotte and South Carolina, finessing people, acting like he's
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: a maintenance man. John Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see, man. You see that shit?
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  Speaker 1: And the news lady came to the door, he was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody should have been like, I just want to say
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  Speaker 2: that I remember him from school when he was in
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  Speaker 2: the MLB class.
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  Speaker 1: We was all in the comments, like, because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he has one of those names that you just don't
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  Speaker 1: say the first name. His name is John Jackson. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ashley James when somebody talks about me. So you
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  Speaker 1: don't just call him John. Like, what's up, John Jackson? Like,
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  Speaker 1: it goes together. So everybody in the comments is like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Look at John Jackson. Ain't maintaining shit.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, he had clients. Why don't you really
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  Speaker 1: do the work instead of scamming them? He was really
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  Speaker 1: making money. He had a brand new pickup truck on
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  Speaker 1: the news. Like, what? Just retarded. He been retarded.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? That brings me to the next story. Like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: what's going on in the world? I know you saw
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: the girl who said she went to Duke. She was
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: in PA school at Duke University. And then it turns
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  Speaker 2: out she never, and she's been doing this for years
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  Speaker 2: and getting dressed, acting like she's going to class, talking
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  Speaker 2: about how tired she is. And she's creating content based
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  Speaker 2: around this identity that does not belong to her whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: Even up to graduation, the motherfuckers that go to the
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  Speaker 2: school is like, who is this bitch? We ain't never
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  Speaker 2: seen her a day in our life.
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  Speaker 1: This is the metaverse. You get to be who you
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  Speaker 1: want to be. And it's just weird that people are, like,
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  Speaker 1: they don't, they hate their regular lives. You get to
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  Speaker 1: create a character now. It ain't just GTA.
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  Speaker 2: And get paid. She was making money on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: on social media.
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  Speaker 1: On TikTok and shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of identity theft, the man who faked a lifestyle
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  Speaker 1: like he was an NFL player for the 49ers and
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  Speaker 1: scammed 26 women out of $ 1. 3 million allegedly targeted white
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  Speaker 1: and Asian women, according to the victims. So this story
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: popped off like, what, almost two weeks ago now? A
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: week and a half ago or so?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Was it that long? I feel like this shit is
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: about a week.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it popped. And then now I noticed like over
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: the weekend, people was like, oh, he was scamming. Oh, OK. OK.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Nothing to see here. The thing people don't realize is
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that this would have never been national news if it
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: was black women. He was scamming. So that should have
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: been a damn hint right there that it wasn't black women.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: First of all, we're not giving it. You might. Our
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: baby daddy might get a piece of the tax check.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Might. Right. Money? You want what? Nigga, I thought you
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: played for the 49ers. How you want my money? I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: wouldn't give a damn how much it was.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Tammy, I have friends who will say, yeah, girl, he
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: played for such and such, and I'm such a pet detective.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: While they talking, I'm Googling. Like, he's not on no
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: one's roster.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Who told you that?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I have had friends who have allowed men to lie. Like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: they didn't get money out of them. But just meeting
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: me and lying first, And then now you spewing a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: lot of your own. We're like, girl, yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: He played for the Eagles, girl.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Girl. No, he don't. Rasta pasta. Rasta impasta.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Carrying a helmet everywhere they go with them. Like this nigga,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I see him in so many pictures just holding the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: helmet like it's a purse.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yo, it says federal prosecutors say 35-year-old Dijon... Labrie, I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: guess that's how you pronounce his middle name, Love. You
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: don't trust no nigga. I don't know if Love is
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: his real last name or fake, but we all, Love
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: is always scammers. Remember the little boy running a clinic
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: in Florida? Last name, Dr.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Love.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, anytime.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Diddy. Diddy.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It says, Love allegedly built an elaborate fake lifestyle by
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: posing as a San Francisco 49ers player and wealthy investor
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: while scamming at least 26 women out of approximately $ 1. 3 million.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: How sweet! According to investigators, Love met many of the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: women through dating apps beginning in 2022. He allegedly wore
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: 49ers gear, displayed luxury cars, claimed to be an NFL
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, and portrayed himself as a successful investor. His
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: alleged accomplice, 18-year-old Taylor Jamie Chan, reportedly posed as Love's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: financial advisor to help convince women that the investment opportunities
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: were legit. Several women were allegedly persuaded to send thousands
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of dollars or even take out personal loans. Prosecutors say
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Love would often cut off communication when victims stopped sending
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: money or began questioning the investment. The FBI believes there
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: could be many more victims. Now, Additional women are speaking
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: publicly about their experiences. One victim has a reported claim.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: that Love specifically targeted white and Asian women. However, that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: racial targeting allegation has not been confirmed by federal prosecutors
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in the criminal complaint or Justice Department's public announcement. Federal
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: authorities have only publicly stated that The identified victims were
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: women located across California, Oregon, Washington, and Idaho. Because you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the ho.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: He knew he could scam with that shit and who
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: he couldn't. I don't even think it was like racially inclined.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I just think these are the women that was going
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: for it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: You remember that post I sent you just the other
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: day about a particular and I'm still debating if I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a clout chase or not off this nigga and the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: situation currently at hand. But looking at his ex-girlfriend's post
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: on TikTok, it made me think like, did this nigga
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: think I was a lick when he hopped in my DMs? Like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do I look like a lick? Tell me, Tammy. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: look like a lick?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You don't look like no lick to me. But you
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: be lickish, it sound like, because niggas be licking you.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I ask niggas for money. I'm trying to figure out why.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I ask niggas for money.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: You take it too long to ask yourself because these
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: niggas be asking you first.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And I be so perplexed. Like, I look like a shikamama? Like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I look like a bitch who would give niggas money? Now, granted,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I have given a man money before. Like, But thousands
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of dollars? Are y'all okay?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Right. And then did you see the video where he
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: was like telling, let me tell you who I am
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to ask these questions. And he
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: started talking about.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: That nigga just spew out bullshit so easy.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we all three Gucci's in Sweden. I'm the king
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: of Sweden. Yeah, we about to throw a Gucci up
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: down the street next year.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: That nigga acting like that's a Zaxby's or something. Nigga,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: he just throwing up a Chick-fil-A. Like, nigga, this is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Gucci we talking about.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Don't they franchising the Gucci's? Yeah, I'm going to put
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: one over here and own it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Bitch, I want a Balenciaga, so I ain't going to lie. Like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I want a Balenciaga franchising now. You just throwing up
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a Gucci.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Then he went, he started showing shoes and shit. And
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: he had, look at this belt. I got this belt.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: This is a Ferragamo belt. I got it in 2024.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: These is Gucci shoes. These is another Gucci shoes. Those
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: is Gucci. Like, what kind of nigga who got money
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is doing that?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Do you follow Justin Blue on Instagram?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know who that is.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: He had a very good point on his, he made
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a post and he was like, could these women that
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: he scammed be opportunists themselves? You see what I'm saying? Like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you thought you were finessing an NFL player. Like, yeah,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to invest in his little thing or whatever. Or, like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for you to make money. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that's why you're so eager to do it. You are
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not researching this person or this investment. You're just sending money.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I have an ex-friend who was just like that. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that bitch is super duper opportunistic. And she would always
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: get bit in the ass every time giving a nigga money.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: What? I think women are attracted to men who have resources.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: He presented himself as someone who could have resources.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But why would he ever need your resources if he
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: has resources?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That part. That's the part. That's when you're asking.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were investing in business.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That's when it went up right then. Like, why would
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you need my help?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Why? Why you need me? You got all these plays.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You need hotels and pay for gas. Hotels and gas?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I thought you had a private jet.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I read that one girl, he told one girl to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: take out a business loan to go basically like pay
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: her bills and like to travel the world with him.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And you thought that was a good idea? It don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: sound like, he has to have dick.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm about to say.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I need to see the dick.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: He must got dick on him too.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Because there's no way like you finessing these bitches just
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: straight off the tongue.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: With an 18 year old. Yes, I'm saying that you have.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: $ 42 million in this account and there's that nigga.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: What if the assistant is just like an AI assistant?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Or you know how you can get these people from
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: India to do office shit for you? That's what it is.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Ain't no telling. But who was being his security? Why
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: was y'all signing up? And then you had niggas, like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: passing you a contract for the 49ers and you signing it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, you signing a contract on video for somebody. Somebody's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: recording you do that finesse.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And then you see niggas was happy about when the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: kids there. It was like, y'all was singing that shit
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: all summer. Where all my screaming ass niggas at. Well,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: there you go. Right there.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you can be finessed, unfortunately, you're
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: going to get finessed and you probably should be finessed.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: If you are finessable. I'm not finessable.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: See, that's... It just... If you thought you weren't, you know, like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: these girls maybe thought they weren't finessable. Now I taught
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you a valuable lesson how to move going forward.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: That's too much money. You remember just... This was last
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: year sometime. It was a girl on TikTok doing a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: story time of how this European guy, she married. He
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: married her all his shit. How he finessed her out of.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Thousands.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: What type of credit y'all got?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Baby, listen, I bought a nigga a pair of sneakers,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: some Nikes. And I got on that plane and I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: got home back to England and he was taking pictures
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: with another bitch. And the shoes I bought him, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: felt super finessed. Them shoes, $ 85.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, I kill him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I kill him about my $ 85.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Did you ever cuss his ass out about that?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't speak to him for years.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, not speaking, but did he ever get cussed
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: out about it?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He got super cussed out. Right there in
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the halfway house. Super cut style, bitch. Played with my
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: $ 85 motherfucking dollars, bitch.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hell no. I ain't even about to pretend like
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I just got thousands to give a nigga. Like, what
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: are y'all bitches doing for a living? Like y'all can just, well,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: excuse me, they were taking out loans. So they probably
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: just have decent credit.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: And I just feel bad for him because, you know,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: some of them might have just been good hearted people
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that he took advantage of. I've seen that happen to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: girls that I know that just, look, they, they in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it with somebody who in it with them.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: No, they thought they were investing in stuff. It's like
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: somebody coming with a business opportunity and you're investing in it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: That's most of, most of this, most of his finessing
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: was that they said one person gave him $ 87, 000. He's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: an NFL player. Why he need your money?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Right. Why would he need your money? And he hasn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: spent no money on you. You ain't seen no real
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: money out of him at all. But he asking you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: for yours. Just dumb.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I don't know. Dick and bubblegum.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Dick and bubblegum.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It's funny, though.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Y'all stay safe.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like I might dress up as him for Halloween.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Put some money in the helmet. Put
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: some money in the helmet, bitch.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Shame, shame, shame. And look, speaking of fucking scamming, we
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: talking about us lending niggas money, or excuse me, people,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: not niggas, not lending niggas no money, but lending money
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and not getting it back. Okay, that is what we
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: are talking about this week when we talk back till
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: debt do us part. Period. Let's get into it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Run me my money.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Period. This topic today hits home for me. Because run
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: me my fucking money. If I give you my money,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: if I loan you, because I didn't give it to you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: It's a difference. If I loan you my money, I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to ask for it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Heck I expect for it like I have calculated it
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: into my total balance that it will be coming back
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: What's the longest someone has owed you money and are
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: y'all still.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking to this day to this fucking day like sometimes
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it costs that money to get rid of somebody so
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: bitch okay it only cost me 500 to get rid
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of your fuck.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I bought you that's what I say I bought you
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I bought you for $ 500 I mean.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Usually when somebody owes you money that's usually like the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: end of the relationship I had a friend whose kid is,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I won't even add that extra little detail, but I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: had a friend, I felt like she thought I owed
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: her money. Because I, I'm going to go ahead and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: say it. She assigned me as the godmother of her child.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: When her child was born, I had a lot of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: shit going on in life. I had a fucking tubal
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: pregnancy at the time myself, right? And I just wasn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: as attentive, you know? And then I moved out of town. So, yeah, like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I got a couple grand... Not grandkids. A couple.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Godkids that don't know you?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yes. So, but the godparent is like, if something happen
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to you, I'll come pick her up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So, that's what I thought godparents are. But I feel
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like the bitches is like, you don't got no kids.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: You got extra money. I'm gonna need that bitch to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just buy shit for my kids. So, anyway. I really
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: felt like she thought I owed her something.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So, it was never any money exchange. It was just
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the fact that you wasn't financially... she.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Asked me to mind you this is a married woman
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: she borrowed money from me and like immediately ghosted me
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that's something like see she felt like i owed her
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: like in my mind maybe yeah that's in my mind
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but what the fuck is that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And you never got your money back never and it
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: was like it's like three four hundred dollars Yeah, I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: want my money. I want my money back. Yeah. So this,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I came up with this because it wasn't
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a situation of I loaned somebody money. It was where
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: we all agreed to pay for something. And then I
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: fronted the bill. And then you never sent your share.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's the same thing as you owe me fucking money. No,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: for real.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Because if I got to come out of my pocket
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with some extra, yes.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, I feel a way. I feel a little A.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And then every time I see you at Tomahawk Tuesdays,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: getting a motherfucking Tomahawk from the Crookleton.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Bone in. Bone in, bitch. Send me my money.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Where is my money? Them shits is not cheap.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Boy, when somebody owe you money, you literally, like, they
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: can't even, you don't want to see them having fun.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You having fun, bitch.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: And you owe me money.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, you smiling? And I ain't got my $ 75. I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: going to see you destitute for $ 50.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You better look like you struggling every time I see you.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Or just mute me. Bitch, don't let me see it, though. Like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: if you just don't want, you know, to pay me,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: don't have me seeing that you on vacation or that
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you at Tomahawk Tuesdays at the Crunkleton.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It's somebody I love really, really. I love them a lot.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And they just be doing the most, and they credit
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: bad over here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I love them. And it's just like, don't call me
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: asking to borrow money. That's the thing. If you call
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: me like, hey, I got such and such going on.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I need such and such. And I give it to you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: There's no expectation that you're giving it back. I have
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: now deleted, deducted that from my total balance. You call
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: me and say, can I borrow? I'm expecting that money back.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Or what about, so during the holidays, I try to like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: give back a little extra. And, you know, I had
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: someone reach out and they was like, I need some help.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, okay, here, I can give
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: you this. And they was like, no, I don't want
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you to give it to me. I want to pay
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you back. I'm like, no, it's okay. And they was like, no,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I insist that I pay you back. And then never
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: paid it back.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: That's for them though, in their minds, when they took
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that money from you, it was just, they just wanted
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to trick, it's psychology for their minds, right? I didn't
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: just take money from Tam. I actually borrowed it. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: then somehow later on down the line, they'll justify why
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: you don't need your fucking money back. They pocket watch
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you more than you pocket watch them.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I offered it to you and you insisted that you
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: pay me back and then never pay me back. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: then talking about how you going on vacation with your family.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: That's mental illness.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And I was like, and I still didn't mention it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: So then there's the thing like asking people for your
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: money back is so uncomfortable. Like, That's an uncomfortable conversation
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: for me. It's like, why am I carrying shame about
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the money that you borrowed from me?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Because you know they about to shame you about your
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: little money.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: There you go right there.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, your little money, man. You coming at me for
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: a little 500. A little?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: It wasn't little without you needing it. You know what
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, your little money. I don't want to ever be
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a bill collector. I feel like that's the wackest job
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in the game. Like we live in America where the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: whole country is in fucking debt. Right. So I never
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: want to have to call somebody and say, hey, where
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: my money at? I probably just start fucking with you
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: because I don't really loan out money that I can
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: stand losing anyway. So if I give you something.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: That was something I had to learn because I would
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: fuck around and give somebody what I couldn't afford to lose.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And then I don't get it back. Now I got
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: to call somebody and borrow money. Right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I literally was just talking about this shit this morning
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: with somebody like, dude, you cannot do more for somebody
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: who you know if you are in need, they can't
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: do shit for you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: The people I'm doing shit for are the people I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: know who won't come through for me in a clutch. Yeah.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not, like, I don't like liabilities. Yeah.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so. But sometimes you hear somebody's story and they
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: be like, they be real good at like, you know.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Sometimes people's shit be fucked up and you be like, damn,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: that's for real.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: If you weren't around, they would figure it out.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: What I don't like is when the motherfucker like, let
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: me get $ 20 till tomorrow. Bitch, just wait till tomorrow.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Whatever you was doing with the $ 20, you can wait
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: till tomorrow. That's such a small amount. What are you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: about to do with $ 20?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Nothing. They just want your money instead of spending theirs.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Talking about, I want to get some wings. Bitch, you
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: got food in the refrigerator, you better eat that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all. So we're going to play like, I guess,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: is it a game?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, kind of.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So we're going to decide whether the person is truly
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: struggling or not. Oh, they just ain't trying to give
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you your motherfucking money back, okay? Oh, they just playing
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in your face for real.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: All right, so first one. Owes your $ 300, but is
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: collecting $ 75 for a birthday section.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So they bad with money?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Because that's not necessarily broke. I mean, $ 300, I don't know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that's both, ain't it? Because if you also like $ 300
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and you can't pay that back, that's kind of broke.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's like almost like you can compare it
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to being like a crypto maniac. Like people who steal shit,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they don't have the money. They just
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to use their money. And it's like the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: excitement of stealing. It could be the same thing with
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: somebody borrowing some money from you. Like, I just don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: want to use my money. So let me get this
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: bitch money. Because I mean, I want like fundraising.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Should you not have a birthday celebration because you owe
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: me $ 300?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: No, your priorities is fucked up. It's okay to skip
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: this birth. Obviously your finances is fucked up. If you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: just need a low 300. Okay. So you need to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: skip this birthday this year so you can ball hard
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: next year. I don't skip a lot of birthdays. Okay. Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Because I would, too. But,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, if everybody putting up $ 75, then it's not
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like you spending a lot for your birthday.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: As long as everybody know you broke and they doing
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: it because you broke. And I'm cool with it. You
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: ain't got to get my $ 300 back today.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't want someone not to celebrate their birthday.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: If I see you, all right, if I see you
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: balling out for your birthday, then I'm like, what about $ 300?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: But if I see you asking everybody for $ 75, then
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, she's still broke. Let's just celebrate her.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see you happy.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see you happy with my money.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want you not to have a birthday.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Girl, if you fucking 40, fuck that birthday. No, if
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you turning 40, okay, maybe. 41, fuck that birthday. Girl,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you owe me $ 300. Fuck that birthday and any plans
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you have for it. Shit.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine, like, I wanted to go to dinner
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: for my birthday.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You only got one birthday, and that's the day you born.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: So now here you come, big grown ass 38-year-old, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you ain't giving my money back yet, but you doing
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: my appreciation.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: So if I came to you and I was like, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: to borrow my birthday, but I ain't going to go
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: nowhere because I just wanted to give you this $ 300. Yes,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: thank you. You would take it in that moment? Mm-hmm.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: And then I'm in there like this. You don't know
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: how long.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You're going to need that $ 300 back. Really, when people
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: got to borrow money from you, they're going to have
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to borrow again. So it's like I'm a savings account
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Hopefully not, though. Hopefully they don't have to borrow again.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If it's a bitch birthday, I feel
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: like I might like it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: But why are you trying to shame me and taking
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: my money back from you? Because it's your birthday. Why
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: do you wait until your birthday to give me this
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: money back? You owe me this money for the last
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: six months.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now don't try to play on my emotion.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to shock your ass and take my $ 300.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to cry.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do it. It just
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: depends on who it is, honestly, because I just want
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: people to be happy on their birthday. Okay. Orders food
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: every night while sending you $ 10 payments. I hate an installment, bitch,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: like I told you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't mind installment.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I hate an installment, especially if you got DoorDash money,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: because that's high.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely. But the actual fees that you paying, you
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: could have done paying my money back.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Bought concert tickets during the repayment period.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: No, you're not going to see Usher and Chris Brown.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: For $ 700.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's a problem. Yes, that's definitely a problem.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: That's when it happens, for sure.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I see you on Facebook eating cherries out of Usher Head, and.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: You owe me $ 300?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: The fuck? Those were my cherries, bitch. Launches a business
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: before repaying the startup money. No, I don't feel like
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that's bad.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. Like, hopefully the business is successful.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: So you can give me my money back. Yes, yes.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely oh before so did you did you loan them
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the startup money that.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Would be that's what it sounds like i.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Mean that seems like that's supposed to happen afterwards right
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: uh post a luxury staycation caption much needed is that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: going to help you like come up with the idea
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to get my fucking money back like if it is
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: then okay that's fine.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Right because you know people mental health be fucked up
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: sometimes so.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah i feel like sometimes it's like it is good
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: mental health to spend money Like you do, it just
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: does something like your endorphins be high. I think men
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: don't understand why the fuck we like to go to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: TJ Maxx and do these treasure hunts with all this shit.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Like it's going, we can get a bunch of shit
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and just feed that thing in us that needs to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: spend a couple of dollars this week.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. I'm an Amazon girlie. I be
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: going crazy in the cart.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I like to touch stuff. I like to see the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: things I, you know, cause sometimes they just have these
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like items that, you know, you can only get it
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: today and it's not going to be here. Like, yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Sends you motivational videos instead of payment updates.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I don't see nothing wrong with that. But send me,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: you know, send the money, too, with the video.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: They're trying to get their mind right, okay? So, yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: maybe she's trying to manifest, like, yeah, I'm going to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: send you some shit as a matter of fact. I'm
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: going to send you some manifestation videos. You can try
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: to manifest my goddamn money.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Claims Cash App is broken, but collects crab ball money
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: without an issue. That shit racist.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: That shit racist as hell, because who the fuck?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: That's very nigga related.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Nigga adjacent. Like what? send $ 16. 42 toward a $ 60 balance
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and says at least I'm trying oh shit $ 600 balance
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and says at least I'm trying you don't want installments though.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I don't that's what I was about to say she sent.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You her change for something she just spent money somewhere
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and she sent you the change don't do that to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: me nah definitely bad spending habits oh.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Look it's so funny it says things people say when
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you're not getting that money back and what's the first
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: one I ain't forgot about you. I ain't forgot about
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: you now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Motherfuckers.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, as long as I owe you, you'll never be broke.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: No, that's a family thing, for sure. As soon as
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that money hit.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: You know I'm good for it. You know I'm good
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: for it. Don't do me like that, baby.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Why are you making this weird?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm making it weird. You really tripping over that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: little bit of money. Mm-hmm.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Girl, I was just about to call you.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's a prime example. All right, what immediately
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: makes you realize you're probably never getting your money back?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Like if you talk to somebody all the time, you
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: give them this money and now y'all don't talk no more.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Like the communication just started dwindling, dwindling down. Yeah, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: then I actually, okay, like if you say, hey, can
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I borrow this and I'm going to give it back
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: two weeks on this date? Once is one day after
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that day. That's when I know I'm not getting my
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: money back. One day after the day you said you
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: were getting your money back.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: The deadline. Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Because it's a burden when you owe money. I owe taxes.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: It's a fucking burden on your soul, on your spirit.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Fuck them, though. I don't like.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: No, I don't like owing people shit, especially an individual. Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to think about that shit forever. Give people
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: their fucking money back.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I just... And I know this sounds.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is a payment plan.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: This sounds... terrible to admit and y'all don't judge me
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: i'm just a girl but i always side-eye women who
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: want to borrow money who are having sex girl is
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that fucked up i'm like why you i challenged the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: bitch i said listen everybody you fucking call them right
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: now get a hundred dollars either they gonna give you
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the hundred dollars and the.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Hundred dollars ain't shit So I'm just putting the price
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: on your cheap ass pussy. Call him and see if
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you fucking three niggas, let's see if you can get
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: $ 300 right now. That is a small amount of money.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: If these niggas can't, either they gonna come through and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: give you the $ 300 or or they gonna get ghost.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: My ass be like 5,000. If you having sex.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: With three niggas, your coochie is itching, and you need
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to go take some of that 300 and get some monistat.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Right. But either they gonna bring you the money, or
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: they gonna get ghost. Nine times out of ten, they're
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: fucking on you because the pussy's free. They ain't trying
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to pay for it. So you asking for money, like, bitch,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: you tripping.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I, I, I, cause now I gotta go
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: suck my boyfriend dick to give you $ 500.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Like where's your boyfriend like I do.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Not I don't want it to sound like women should
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: be transactional with their bodies why are you making that
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: face I don't want like I don't want to suggest
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that that's that that's what we should be doing but
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I just feel like if you are in dire need
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of money sex should be the last thing on your
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: mind how.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Is your coochie wet I want to know the science
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Wet pussy and dry purse don't match. How does that work?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: And it's not even about, you know, golding and like
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: men would say, it's just about having some type of security.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: If something were to happen, even if you never asked
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: this person for anything, if something were to happen, you can. Like,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: it's just something about a woman having sex and can't
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: ask for help. I don't like it, but you... Feel
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: comfortable calling your friend or sister a dad.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's ego too. Women have ego and they be like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I don't need nothing from me.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, you do.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Yes, the fuck you do. Well,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: why you need it from me?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: The fuck? So you just need everything from women.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I just feel like you going to be some pussy then.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Or something. I'm leaving here with something like motherfucking Nate. Bitch,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: call me Nate.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: You going to give me some pussy or something? I'm joking.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I'm joking. That's so bad.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But this, all right, this kills me too. When you
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: see a motherfucker out that owe you money, they be like,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I ain't forgot about you. Bitch, if you don't get
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: on my face, yes, the fuck you did.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, the fuck you did. That is classic.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: That's fucking classic.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I ain't forgot about you.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And the myth of partying.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Right. Yes, you have.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: You're spending my money right now. Why not just not
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: buy that?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Drinking all that tequila.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: And just give me, like, you don't even have to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: pay me all of it. I just want to know
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: that you are doing something in good faith.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I don't even like installments.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: You want your whole money.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I want my whole lot. Because when it comes back
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: in installments, I pay, I spend it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So you don't feel like you ever got it back?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, don't do that. I forgot about your face. Okay.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: So if you don't want installments, when they give you installments,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you just put that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't give it to you in installments.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I take installments.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't get the same fucking money. Do you charge interest?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Have you ever charged somebody interest money on money that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you loaned them?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: No, but I've had somebody give me back more than
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they borrowed. Yeah. It's a very nice thing.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I have asked for interest on money that
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I loaned. Because they were using my money to make money.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: So I feel like if we making money off my money, well,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to make no money off of it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: That's fair, right?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: You won't give me back the same money?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. No, okay.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: What type of dealings was that?
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Right, you using my money to make money.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: What type of dealings was it?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You see, now you're asking too many questions. No,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: it wasn't anything shady. It was like a party or
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: something like that. They needed some money to throw the party.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: And I wanted some money on the back end.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, yes. I mean, the longest, it's
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: just like you never get it back. I mean, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: tally up on family. I do tally up mentally on family.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Like I know how much money I'm giving in my mind.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: My mama, she will literally keep the deposit slips, receipts
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: from the bank.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, how much?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: She got a fold on your ass. Like, you really
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: done ran your tab up. She got to start keeping
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the receipts on you for real, for real.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, goodness, yeah. When it comes to family, with family
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and money, that can be very dangerous because you don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: want to fall out with family members or have money.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: So typically... Most of all, I tell them, like, let
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: me be the final resort when you've exhausted all options.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I say that, you know, go through everybody. It did
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: come to me.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Bridget, if you go to church, you need to be
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: asking them for money before you ask me.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Especially if you're a tither.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, yeah, go to somebody and then circle back.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And if you can't, and then I'll ask you to
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: list the options that you've gone through. And then if
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: all else fails, I'll give it to you. And it's family.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I don't be really wanting it back.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: That's stressful.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: What the hell?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: What? You know, I think people only call the people
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: who they think are going to say yes. Are you
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: surprised when you say no? You thought I was going
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: to say yeah. No, not this time, bitch. You know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I don't ask for money. I remember I asked, this
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: is like, we might have been in college. And at
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the time I wasn't dealing with this guy, but I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: had called him and asked, I need like the pet
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: deposit for my dog in my apartment. I can't stand
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: for a man to ask you why you need the money.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: You don't feel like that's a legitimate question?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not asking you for $ 2, 000.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, that might be considered a lot of money
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for some people, right? I'm not asking you for a
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: large sum of money. It was probably like $ 200, $ 300
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: at the time. I'm in college. I am working, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: this unexpected bill comes up. I don't want to have
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: to answer 21 questions about this $ 200, man. I need
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: it for my... He told me no.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: When she told him what it was up?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yes. You don't give a fuck about me or my dog.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: You better put him on the porch.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Immediate cutoff.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fair because it's $ 200. But I feel
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: like if you ask me for money, I want to
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: know what it's for.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't matter what it's for.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, it do.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: It depends on the amount.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Because what if I've seen people. borrow money from a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: friend girl to get a nigga out of jail that
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: ain't shit? You took my hard-earned money and bailed somebody
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: out of prison who been beating your ass? No, I
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: need to know what you're using my money for because
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: now I'm mad. Now I'm mad.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe not asking what the money's being used for
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: can avoid being upset about it. Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: You said not asking? I feel like if.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: They really plan on paying it back, why does it
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: matter what I need the money for?
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: But do they really plan on paying it back? You're
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: trying to.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Gauge how important it is before you give them the money. Yeah,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: because my money is always important to me. So I
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: need to see how important your shit is to me.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. It just depends. Yeah, it just depends.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Just recently, my niece asked me to help her with
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: her tuition. And I'm like, why you got to balance?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Let me see your awards letter. Now, I did ask her.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the same thing.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Let me make sure you ain't trying to spend my
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: money on some bullshit.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's similar. And it depends on who it is,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the amount and who it is. Because, you know, people
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: who are responsible with money, you don't need to ask them.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: what it's for but if it's your little crazy cousin
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: who always is a bullshit what you need what you
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: need 500 for.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Right now so and i you know and this might
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: be bad but i don't i don't let men borrow
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: money i'm not giving a man money i don't even
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: give male bums money i did.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Like that when i said that i wanted something on
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: the back end that was definitely a guy you know
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a girl But I don't really have men
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: asking me. I don't know a lot of men that
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: would ask me for money.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I think I look like a lick to some people.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm actually a gold digger. Like, I want something
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: from you. I don't know if I look, like, I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: have had a good enough men ask me for money
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to where I had to question, what I look like
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: to you? So I don't look like I ask for money.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: And I really don't. I just have expectations. I really
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: don't be asking people for money. I just expect that
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: we together, like, for you to do things for me.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do stuff for you. But I have
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: had men ask me for money. I just want to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: know what I look like.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Really? Guys don't ever, like, it's very rare that a man...
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Because you probably don't have to ask first. Yeah, that's
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: how I do homeless people, too, when they walk up.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I ask them first. Hey, let me get a dollar.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Before they can even ask, let me get a dollar.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Let me get a dollar.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Let me get a.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Shit, I'm ready to buy, motherfucker. Let me get that first.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Only in Atlanta, because it's just overkill there. Like, you
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: be done give up so much money. So in Atlanta,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: you got to ask them first.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to know, how do men call
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and ask a woman for money? You obviously don't care
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: how you look to me. I commented that recently on Instagram.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: If a man doesn't care how he presents to you,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like you for real. Like, if you don't,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: if you're not thinking about how I see you, if
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I see you, like, fucked up, a bum, whatever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is, like, in the beginning. But
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: if you've been dealing with somebody and you know them
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: and they're just in a fucked up situation, then that's different.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I would know you in a fucked up situation.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I'm offering, actually. You wouldn't even, I.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Know when somebody is in dire need and needs something,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to ask me. But I'm talking about
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: just some fucking, just, you know, I don't know. We
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: had a few good conversations and I look.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Like a lick.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm confused.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: That's how niggas do. If they fucked you good, shit,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: let me get $ 2, 000.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I had a nigga steal $ 5.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: And your car keys. Steal $ 5 out my pocketbook, bought
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: some head before.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: That happened to me.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: No, that happens a lot. They'll take your car keys
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and go pick up another woman in your car.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: After dropping dick off?
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: After dropping dick off. Child, please.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Ain't no dick that good.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: None. But you don't know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Baby boy, remember?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: He would take, he vet car.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I'll be back.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: And go to his other baby mama house. Lay up.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I stole my car.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to steal your own shit.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: But how do you handle a defensive borrower? Like when
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you call them and ask them back for your money.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And they get nasty with you.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It's time to fight, right?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What's the word I'm looking for? I reciprocate the energy.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely reciprocate the energy. Because why are you
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: mad about my money? Why is it little? I hate
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: that part. When they say it's a little. Your little change.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get your little change to you next Friday.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: You got to start suing bitches. I think that's the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: only way you got to start putting little civil lawsuits
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: on these hoes and put a lien on their damn pussy.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: What? That's not a thing.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: The next time you use that pussy, I'm getting paid.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: That's another thing. But what about you? Do you? I've
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: never had anybody like, well, I have had people get
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: a little nasty, but it wasn't like, bitch, fuck you
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: and that money. I ain't never had that kind of energy.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: But I did have people get a little ornery. But
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: people be embarrassed. It just depends on who it is
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: because I try to give grace because people are prideful.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And they don't, nobody likes asking for money, right? Nobody
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: really wants to come to you.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: They know they could finesse you, though. I feel like
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: you don't care about me. But no, not.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Everybody is trying to finesse you, though. Like some people
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: really just being a bond for real and they need
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: some help, you know. And people who have pride and,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: you know, like being able to present a very successful
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: financial front, it's hard for them to come to anybody
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: and they could be real fucked up and don't want
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: to ask nobody. So then I try to give people
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: grace in that element. And then if I have to
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: come back to you about it, that's hard for me
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. Cause I'm, I'm just not a bill collector
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: at heart.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: That's yeah. I'm not. And so that's hard for me
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: to do. So I imagine it's hard to tell someone
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: why you haven't honored your agreement. Right. So I try
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: to give grace depending on who it is, you know.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Let somebody borrow some money one time and I exclusively
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: explicitly told them like hey I'm gonna give you this
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: but I really really really need my money back I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: really need my money back and they still they not
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: give me up they did not give up that's so
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: hurtful yes you don't give I feel like you don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: care about me at that point if I say hey
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: mind you because I had already let you borrow money
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of times before so if this one time
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like hey I can't afford not to get this money
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: back You don't care about me. You asked me for
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: this money knowing you couldn't pay me back and you
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck that it was going to put
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: me in a hardship.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: You don't care.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: And that's the messed up part. Or sometimes people have
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: good intentions about getting you the money back and they
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: just can't dig themselves out of that hole. And instead
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: of being coming to you and be like, I ain't
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: forgot about you. They just don't say shit. Right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Is he planning life?
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Asking you if you think that's nice?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: My money would be nice.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think that looks nice.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Now, see, that's why when they come to you for
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: asking you about how to spend their money. Right. That's
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: next level. Now you're just disrespectful. Right. Sometimes people be
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: forgetting or they think... You never forget. Or.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You don't forget when you owe somebody.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: You don't forget. I feel like they got to have
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: forgot because how... Or they feel like you don't need it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: She good. She don't need it. She ain't worried about it.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think people be forgetting. I had a... No,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: let me not even talk about that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I just assume you forgot. Because there ain't no way
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: you out here just spending this money. It is a
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: burden on your soul. Especially if you love the person.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Even just because you owe the person money, that doesn't
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: mean you don't love them.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: You still haven't gotten your hands on it to not
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: fuck up your bottom line and to be able to
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: give them your money back.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: That's why you should not have borrowed.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: That's sometimes, because sometimes people are just selfish.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: They have already made up in their mind that you're
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: going to get this money back before me anyway.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Right. You straight. You ain't got no kids. I really
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: feel like people with kids think that people with no
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: kids have excess money for their fucking kids.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: That part. That's what I was saying about this girl.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And the goddaughter shit. Like, yeah, you count on my pockets.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You think I can afford to give you this money,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't at the time. Right.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: But that ain't for fucking business, bitch. Why you count
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: on my pockets?
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't know what I need to do. Right.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Or who else I need to help, you know?
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: That part.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that people with kids, they
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: really be, and I'm going to tell y'all, I feel
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: like mamas, mamas come with a loaf of bread. All
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: my homegirls with kids got a bag. They be having
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: more money than me somehow, I guess, because they have
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: better spending habits. And I just be like, how do
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you do that with all them fucking kids? Right, mortgage, everything.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Everybody look good.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: God damn, you a superhero.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we be fucking up the bag when you have,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: we be a little bit more irresponsible with our money.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Which is why we don't have extra to give you. Fuck.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Like, I already planned how I'm going to fuck my
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: damn money up.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Choose wisely, bitch. I done door-dashed 17 times this week.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Got no money for that.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: You think family assume that money doesn't have to be
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: repaid back because they family?
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Sometimes. Sometimes I feel like, that's why I say with family,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: if you give family money, it's better to not expect
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: it back. Just so you don't ruin that relationship. Because
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I've seen people not talk to their brother or sister
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: for 10 years over money, you know? So if you,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: just a word of advice, if you can't afford to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: lose it, don't loan it, especially when it comes to family. Yeah.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: What's the movie? You know, like... with Big Mama House
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and all that. What's the name of the movie?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Big Mama's House with Martin. No.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I know that's the name of his movie, but it
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: was like Big Mama's House.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Soul Food.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Soul Food. You'll be knowing the movies. Yeah. Soul Food.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Remember the one family member? I'm pretty sure you know
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the characters.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Terry.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Terry had the money. Terry was responsible. And Terry's like, no,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: we selling this fucking house because da, da, da, da, da.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Because I'm the only one paying the taxes. Yeah. And
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: they was like, we can't sell Big Mama's House. Yeah.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: The one family member that everybody like, I don't. I, I,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I be, you know, you got to have gratitude, right?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: So I do like, I like to be able to help. Um,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I think you should have gratitude if you're in a
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: position to help your family.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Right. But then people will take advantage. And sometimes you
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: be in the way of somebody's fucking karma. You know
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? You probably wasn't supposed to help this motherfucker.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: This was the situation. that God gave them to figure
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: it the fuck out so they can get to the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: next level. So now you done came in and helping. Yeah, exactly. Nah,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: sometimes you got to let people fucking drown so they
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: can learn how to swim.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. And I agree with that.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: So I think that Terry was being taken advantage of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: in her family and then at the end people could
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: have called her selfish.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: And then that cousin fucked her husband in the house.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: The family fucked my husband!
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Cousin Ebony, ain't it?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: No, Ebony was from Players Club. That bitch might have
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: named Ebony's B-Holes, dog.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Joe Cousin Flo?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Ebony's B-Holes.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Not all Ebony's.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: The biggest hoes you know, Thomas, their name was Ebony
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: or what?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: All right, what's your last last?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Damn, we there?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yep. It's time to go.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Like we both said, do not let anybody borrow anything
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you can't stand losing. Okay? And I really feel like
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: if you give somebody some money, just go ahead and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: deduct it. from your bottom line. Just already assume that
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: you ain't gonna get that shit back.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, I agree. And what's my last last?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, outside of what the fuck you said. Yeah,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: that's it. Whatever she said.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I can't think of nothing else. bitch you gotta find
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: a better way to segue into the end of the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: show what your last last you be like what's your
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: last last we had a whole something we've been talking
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: about what's your last.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Last you had something else to offer that conversation but we.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Could have like segued a little bit I guess okay
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: like alright we can do it we can cut this
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: cut and go back into it no we gonna leave
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: this just like it is I wanna offer a last
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: last give me a second Thomas we can cut.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: My last last is if you watching this And you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: know you owe me some money. Go ahead and send
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: that shit. Send that shit. Send that shit. We ain't
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: even got to talk about it. Send that shit over, okay?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: That's my last, last. Sick of you motherfuckers. All right, y'all.
• 1:02:20
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:08
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