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Street Farbrengen Episode # 137: Rosh Hashana - Is G-d Waiting to Punish You? · ChabadLife.TV Street Farbrengen

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SPEAKER_00: You ever notice when there's a traffic accident on one side of the highway, the other side going the opposite direction gets into a jam because everybody has to look at the accident?
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SPEAKER_00: I think Lebavatures today are a little bit like that when it comes to the the um how should we say the crash and smash of normative musser based Yiddishkeit.
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SPEAKER_05: That's uh that was a big statement.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, it's human nature to be attracted to smash and crash.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, that that I get that you get.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_05: I wasn't having a qualm with the idea.
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SPEAKER_00: So this has been bothering me for a while now, but let me give you a current example.
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SPEAKER_00: On CWL Live, that quintessential chabad website had an article about, I don't know where, but there was a lot of talk.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's in the WhatsApp world or whatever, I just don't know what it is, it's not important, that they brought up in this article that there's a lot of consternation amongst the uh folks out there because it says in the Gemara that when Rosh Hashanah falls on a Shabbos and you don't blow the chauffeur, it's an omen for a bad year.
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SPEAKER_00: And the answer given was a good, you know, it was a proper answer that Tosefus says it doesn't mean if it falls on a Shabbos, it means if you didn't blow when you should have, which is not Shabbos.
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SPEAKER_00: And the Rebbe says, we know that, which we're gonna get into, the Shabbos Rosh Hashanah affects the whole entire year.
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SPEAKER_05: Double Benuka.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh double?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
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SPEAKER_05: But Shabbos and Yantav.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: So, and all that was a good answer.
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SPEAKER_00: But I want to know who are these people with this consternation enough for it to be an art, a full article on CL Live.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's people like yourself who know that the Rebbe says what he says, first of all, and you came across the Gemara, would you have consternation?
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SPEAKER_05: I mean, you're using a big word consternation.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you mean by would you be anxious and concerned that it's falling out on the Shabbos?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_05: And because I know that the Rebbe learned that Gemara.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's number one.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: But I have a different question altogether underneath all that.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is just like it's human nature to slow down and get to work late to see the accident that happened on the other side of the highway, we have a tendency to relate to I'll call it not even a crisis intervention, but a crisis prediction.
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SPEAKER_00: Crisis meaning in this case that God is waiting to catch you, to prosecute you, and you know, whether you that's the way you understand it in the son of Taikif on Rashun Yum Kippur and so forth, and that's the norm.
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SPEAKER_00: And the khiddish is when you get out of that prison sentence.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm sorry to say that's not the thinking of the Belshamtav, it's not the teaching of Chasidis, and it's certainly not the approach of the Lababajarabah.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So how do you have Chasidim worried about all this stuff?
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SPEAKER_00: Because they don't you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: There's a payoff for the powers that be, whoever has power at any given time in any different particular situation, to predict tragedy.
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SPEAKER_00: To predict tragedy, to use it as a manipulative way to get people to comply.
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SPEAKER_00: Even down to Wait, who are you saying?
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's subtle.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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SPEAKER_00: So you have I'm getting all these things.
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SPEAKER_00: I know listen, maybe I'm a late, I'm willing to accept that.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm epicorus, I'm more than willing to accept it.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I get these things on these Jewish WhatsApp about Gadola Yisrel, who I never heard of, but they're called the Goddador.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I don't I don't have any of those Goddle cards or anything that the kids have.
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SPEAKER_00: So so and you know, I'm a baby.
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SPEAKER_00: I just know about our own good, our own Goddle.
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SPEAKER_05: And um big controversy in itself.
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SPEAKER_05: That's the only one you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I'm talking about in this generation.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So, in any case, I get all these WhatsApps saying the biggest, the most unique opportunity for a blessing for you not to have any tragedies this year, and for you to be blessed if you give 300 and X amount of dollars, gamacha, whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's funny that they're saying all this stuff because 30 years ago to say that the blessing from this guy, whoever he is, not that particular guy, is already a Labhavatra thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Blessings from Tidikim and so forth.
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SPEAKER_00: But now it's the Litvax cashing in on the fear, the protection that you need, even the language, and I'm not saying there's no basis to it within swarm because the swarm are written by the people who belie who follow this system of thinking, and that is you must have schusim in order to get past Rosh Hashanah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the same people in my shool who learn from that perspective, and I know all the people are telling listening, are gonna say it says this here and it says this there.
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SPEAKER_00: I know they have good sources.
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SPEAKER_00: And they have good sources.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't think anybody questions whether they're even the Gemara.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm saying reward and punishment, you're getting back to the fundamental.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not interested in, I'm not having any problems with reward and punishment.
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SPEAKER_05: No, but I'm saying on a fundamental are you doing it for?
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SPEAKER_05: And if you're doing it, you forget it even above.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not interested in the for.
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SPEAKER_00: Let me give you an example.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm asking you how do you shape your hair gash, your feeling, your dumb mind about who this God is that's doing all this stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Let me give you an example about reward and punishment, okay?
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: If I am a diabetic and I eat a donut and go into diabetic shock, are you gonna tell me I was punished?
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SPEAKER_05: No.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, are you gonna blame the donut chef?
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SPEAKER_05: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Isn't that why is that not reward and punishment?
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SPEAKER_00: Why isn't that not punishment for doing a dumb move?
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SPEAKER_05: Because it's a consequence, it's a reaction, it's a it's a fact of life.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so if you look at at the core of Swarm, especially in Rachel's Kochma, it'll talk about how that is exactly the reality that we live in with Ruchnius.
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SPEAKER_00: God is not sitting there and this and he doesn't have this pained expression in his face, wringing his hands, saying, uh, and and like this, and going, I'm gonna get him because he's been a bad boy.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, I were going to shoot arrows at him.
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SPEAKER_00: What I'm asking you is how does it sculpt your hairgish about this God?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, not not about war and punishment.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, but I'm saying it well, I don't know why you're you're saying it's not about that.
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SPEAKER_05: That's what it that's what it feels like to me is like here's this god who is waiting to punish me for all of my I know that's the way it feels.
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SPEAKER_05: So I'm saying, why is it not that?
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SPEAKER_05: Why are you saying it's not that?
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm giving you this as an example.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we have that somebody came up with this Gemara and said, Oh my god, I'm concerned because Shabbos is Russia's falling out on Shabbos, ignoring and and by the way, without the alumnus, and they know that we don't talk like that in Chabad.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: We just we don't how often do you hear in Chabad reward and punishment?
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SPEAKER_00: How often do you hear about don't go to Gehenim?
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SPEAKER_00: How often do you but now it's creeping in?
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SPEAKER_00: And how much is this Gehenim lifestyle in the non-Lubavish Hasidic world?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about motivation, I'm talking about the system.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm saying that I mean, that was always what was made fun of by the Misnogdam of what their, you know, their entire way of being was based off of reward and punishment, not going to get him, having a bigger place in Olamhaba.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean, this has been made fun of from Hasidim since the beginning of the boss.
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SPEAKER_00: That's my point.
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SPEAKER_05: So so where so you're saying that we're we're living it now, and you're seeing that because of not knowing how to respond, or not because of this article, because of the idea that this is something that would bother you.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been I've been listening carefully to the rhetoric over the years, and yes, that is that it's either one or the other, by the way.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like I was just gonna say because the flip side is do whatever I want.
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SPEAKER_05: Hashem loves me, it doesn't matter right you know what I do.
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SPEAKER_05: It's and it's funny, like that was my question.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's that's just the opposite side of the same coin.
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SPEAKER_00: So so you're you are grouping them together, then it's just like it so God is this I I tell people all the time, inshal, stop and get out of Khaider.
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SPEAKER_00: God is not the principal, and you're not five years old anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: And and and and and you learn Chasilis, God is not this this this diabolical um prison warden ready to give you a pass.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, obviously there's dinvaheshbon.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying there isn't.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's not your focus of what you're but isn't it interesting, the voort from the Balshamtav, that you're gonna go and give a dinvah cheshbin and to ask the question.
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SPEAKER_00: The Rebbe has a a lot on this.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you mean din vakeshman?
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SPEAKER_00: You write your whole sheet, yeah, and then we give up sak din of what you did, right?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so what does it mean?
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SPEAKER_00: So the the we answer and we say, the psach din you gave on somebody else, which of course you only saw that somebody else from yourself, uh-oh, creates the run after 120 years.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's apply that to God.
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SPEAKER_00: What's your din with God?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean you're what's your what's your psak din on God?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that he's that he's the principal, like you just said.
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SPEAKER_00: That he's like, not just the principal.
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SPEAKER_05: He's waiting to uh to to get you or whatever, however you want to phrase it.
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SPEAKER_00: He's got the yardstick in your school in the old days, waiting for your fingers to put on the desk, and he's gonna slap you if you're bad.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, where do so I'm not saying that's a good thing.
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SPEAKER_05: Where does this no, I I I got all that.
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SPEAKER_05: So so where is this coming from?
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SPEAKER_05: Is this a lack of learning Hasidis?
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SPEAKER_05: Do you think it's literally just because people didn't learn what the Rebbe said or what the famous huge my marum of the Rebbe Rashab that speak about this question?
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SPEAKER_05: Obviously, this is just an example of what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_05: It's just the culture.
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SPEAKER_05: But where is this coming from?
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SPEAKER_00: I think if you're not gonna learn Hasidis, you're already like paddling upriver without a paddle.
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SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's uh so But it's even the people again.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the flip side of Skarva Inish?
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SPEAKER_00: Is there is no Skarva Oinush, but just the same coin, you're still thinking with the it's like uh again, it's you have the Khesbunfish is what's your nefish?
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SPEAKER_00: What's your tzir, right?
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SPEAKER_00: In chassid, the nefesh is the tzir, and the goof is the khimer.
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SPEAKER_00: Not only in the chassid is the Morella Prague speaks about it, another khakirim like that.
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SPEAKER_00: So somebody was recently telling me this famous um discussion that's going on, but he was speaking about it as a fact and so forth, and I don't have any problems per se with the fact, and that is God needs you more than you need him.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: You're here because God wants a dear batahtoy name, all the good stuff we can use, and therefore God needs you.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, now you have a whole bunch of, I'm not getting into details now.
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SPEAKER_00: You have a whole bunch of people saying that.
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SPEAKER_05: That's a big that's a bigger statement than God needs you.
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SPEAKER_05: God needs you more than okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: He may fine.
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SPEAKER_00: Not that.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just picking it apart because I asked the guy who was telling me this, because and I said to him, how does that make you feel?
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SPEAKER_00: And what were you feeling beforehand?
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SPEAKER_00: That now you find out God needs you, you feel differently.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what I mean by tier.
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SPEAKER_00: What's your buy-in?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, not seer, that's what I mean by what's your motivation?
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SPEAKER_00: What's your form that you begin to picture, if you will, that word, I don't know a better word, but uh to picture about this God or yourself in this case.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I said to the guy, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: There's no question that God wants you or mitzvahs, otherwise he wouldn't, according to created, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, and there's no question, but mean nimlach benishme.
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SPEAKER_00: And that who did he consult with?
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SPEAKER_00: He consulted with us as we you and I are sitting here at this table, so to speak, right?
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SPEAKER_00: With all that kind of stuff, which we won't go into now.
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SPEAKER_00: And when you go out to war against your enemies, and Rashi says, the Nilchamas Harishus, elected war, it's not even a mitzvah, it's not the canonim that you have to get rid of.
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SPEAKER_00: It's you know, you want to get oil from the from the Arab countries, you're gonna go to war.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not suggesting, I'm just using it as a modern example.
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SPEAKER_00: And the Rebbe asks, how could it be that all the swarms speak about Kitais Muchham Alevach on your Yedz Sahara?
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yet Sahara is a mitzvah to get rid of your Yed Sahara, whatever, to deal with it.
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SPEAKER_00: How can you say it's Dibray Rashus?
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SPEAKER_00: It's an elected war.
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SPEAKER_00: So the Rebbe says it's an elected war that the the yidin were consulted before creation, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And so we say, yes, we'll come down here and we'll do the war.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So yeah, God needed the answer, and God wanted you to follow through, and he has Nachas Ruch Lefanai, Shah Marti Vanasaratsoini, right?
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SPEAKER_00: I commanded, you did, and now I am I have so much pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: This God is looking for little Ruvain and Zachary to give him pleasure.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, and like what I don't know why people don't have that concept as a problem.
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SPEAKER_00: But any case, okay, I get all that.
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SPEAKER_00: So I said to the guy, but that doesn't mean he's limited by that need.
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SPEAKER_00: He's not you can't form a a seer of him.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I can't I I it hit me this crazy example.
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SPEAKER_00: And I knew that it would get him because he's a young little punk, you know, kind of guy.
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SPEAKER_00: And he lives in that generation, not like you know, my situation.
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SPEAKER_00: So I said to him, Let me ask you a question.
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SPEAKER_00: And tell me if you can relate to this question.
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SPEAKER_00: So a guy, a chosen goes over to the cala and says, Hariat Makudeshusly, you are sanctified to me.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: The Gomorrah asks, Why Makudush?
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SPEAKER_00: It's a Kenyan.
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SPEAKER_00: We're saying in the in the Mishnah, is it koina?
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SPEAKER_00: But we say Hariat Makudesh, that all of a sudden she's as to the whole entire world, right?
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SPEAKER_00: She's koidish to you.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: So I want I asked him, I said, so when you went and you said Hariyat Mukdesh to your wife, and now he's got kids already, you know, so he's not that young.
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SPEAKER_00: And he's and some of them are probably in Messifta, so he got the age range.
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SPEAKER_00: And I said, which one does your wife which one would your wife appreciate of the following two choices?
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SPEAKER_00: Choice number one is, you know, uh, Zelda, I had my choice of every woman in the world, and I decided you're the only one for me.
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SPEAKER_00: And everybody else is flotsum and jetsum.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care about them.
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SPEAKER_00: They're irrelevant, they don't add up anywhere to you.
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SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Choice number two is Zelda.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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SPEAKER_00: Even now that I chose you, I can see choosing, you know, uh Slavita.
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SPEAKER_00: Which one would you think she would choose?
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SPEAKER_00: She'd feel more chosen.
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SPEAKER_05: The first one.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly, the chosen, right.
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SPEAKER_00: Because he now is locked in.
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SPEAKER_00: From her point of view, he's locked into the chooser of me.
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SPEAKER_00: The other one is so then let me ask you a question on the second one.
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SPEAKER_00: I chose to marry you, but I could chose the one down the street.
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SPEAKER_00: But I chose you.
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SPEAKER_00: So then why did you choose me?
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SPEAKER_05: Sechel idea.
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SPEAKER_05: Something that What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_00: I I I have a sechel, the other one is is just as good.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the the sechel is bigger than that sechel.
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SPEAKER_00: That's uh I chose you even though I'm not limited to choose you.
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SPEAKER_00: How dare you say that God needs you?
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SPEAKER_00: Therefore, your form and your picture of God is He's forced to need you.
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SPEAKER_00: He's not forced to need you, even though he chose to need you.
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SPEAKER_00: Just like the second example here with the with the choice of the color.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: We have we we we naturally want to control through our minds and make nice little neat ticky-tacky houses like in Levitown, Long Island.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know that old thing, but uh after the war, uh God.
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SPEAKER_05: So you think it's a control thing?
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SPEAKER_05: Definitely comes down to if I if I have the ability to I guess in the original example of the principle appease God.
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SPEAKER_05: Or um I don't know of a better word than appease God.
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SPEAKER_00: Or better yet, it makes sense that I have problems in my life.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, then I could I can say that.
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SPEAKER_05: And it does say again, there's lines we could quote for any way you want right now to discuss, but putting that all of aside, we're we're we're saying it's a sheeta, and you're saying the sheeta of I'm more interested in the hergars.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Well and you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: You can't blame Jews for feeling that way after two and a half thousand years of being battered around.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So how do you explain that persecution you're gonna say is we deserved it?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, what what do you do with Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_05: So you're saying what do you do with it is your Heragish of I mean you're saying it's not Sheeta, but it's the Heragish of the Sheetah that you are trying to be in control over something that is inherently not in your control and not even should be in your control.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Now they're so it's what's what's the the line letting go and letting God or something like that?
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SPEAKER_00: That it's let go and let God let go and let God.
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SPEAKER_05: So the the idea that you have this power of letting go of this control.
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SPEAKER_05: That takes away the cheshman that you are placing on God giving you.
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SPEAKER_05: Does that make sense?
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SPEAKER_05: Meaning, like you're you're letting go of this false control, if you believe the sheetah that we're discussing of Hasidis and everything, you're letting go of this experience that God is judging you for the way that you are acting, feeling, experiencing, because that's actually that's actually the more powerful version of the unlimited, you know, Hashem needs you, but is not limited by you type expression.
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SPEAKER_00: I think so, but let's go back to the example of you're driving you're riding down the highway and everyone's slowed down.
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SPEAKER_00: You're wondering if there's an accident.
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SPEAKER_00: It turns out it's on the other side of the road, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the reason people look?
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SPEAKER_00: They're in a hurry.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: They're but they're curious, they're interested, they're they're naturally pulled towards something that is different.
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SPEAKER_00: But what I'm asking is what is the buy-in for them.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm asking.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: What pleasure does it serve?
23:20
SPEAKER_00: They like to watch other people's better them than me.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: Bingo.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's the flip side of I'm expecting it to be with me, but guess what?
23:30
SPEAKER_00: It happened to him.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's a Yiddish expression that says that everyone walks away from a funeral and says, ha ha, I made it.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: And the other guy didn't.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: So but all of that is both a projection of your limitations about how you see things.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: It's true, we all we all are limited mortal.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Um and and how much um I'm just more concerned with and more focused on what do you think God then becomes for you?
24:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: The God.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even talking about the Shita.
24:20
SPEAKER_05: There's no there's no relationship then.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: There's no No, it's a big relationship.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: He's got a club and a gun and a new.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I want to know what you think of God, not the relationship.
24:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: I want to know what you're thinking of him as being.
24:37
SPEAKER_05: Definitely not Rockamim, compassion.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about the God.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: What is this God?
24:45
SPEAKER_05: A dictator.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: No, but what fine, he's a dictator.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: So what other emotional, you know, somebody I have to fear against somebody and throw something against the wall and it sticks.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: What other things are you throwing there at the wall that sticks about him?
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Fear and you know about him, not about your fear.
25:06
SPEAKER_05: Just scary.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Just you know that's again your your reaction.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm asking you, what are you making God of?
25:17
SPEAKER_05: What do you think?
25:18
SPEAKER_00: I want you to think about it because it's it's what does it mean?
25:30
SPEAKER_00: We're learning you and I for a long time, Basilagani, right?
25:34
SPEAKER_00: With the boys on the WhatsApp.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: What does it mean?
25:41
SPEAKER_00: You're going Lamila minus even of caduce.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Right?
25:45
SPEAKER_00: You're going above Sechel.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: What does it mean to go?
25:49
SPEAKER_00: What is the the the the state of being that you're Lamila minus?
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Is it you're not being Seychel dick?
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Does it mean that you show up late to work?
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Because you're not being sechledic?
26:09
SPEAKER_00: La Mylamina Seychel?
26:11
SPEAKER_00: Does it mean that you rack up your credit cards a million dollars?
26:17
SPEAKER_00: Because what the heck's the difference, anyways?
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm gonna go La Mylamina Sechel.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how I'm gonna pay for them, but I'll go Lamila minus.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Is that Lamila Minasechel?
26:31
SPEAKER_05: Not not in the real sense of La Mylamina Sechel, because I don't know what it means.
26:36
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm saying like one is you're just being hefger.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: And La Mylamina Sechel does not mean caneged ha sechel.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: Does not mean the fight against Sechel.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: It means Sechel's not a criteria to begin with.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: All of creation, I have to I once told you this.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: When I told the guys in in Or Shlomo that according to Chasidis, God did not create the world for goodness.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: That's after he already a few steps later, according to Chabad Chassidis.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: All of creation's Lamaila mina sechal.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: There's no reason for it.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: Right?
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what Dirba Takhla is?
27:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: They went nuts.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: How could you say there's no reason?
27:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, there's no such thing as reason before it's created.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: That's bes that's essentially the answer.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: But no, I need to have a reason.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
27:37
SPEAKER_00: They were like, and they were ready to lynch me almost, because their whole basis is God loves me and He wanted to do kindness for me.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm not saying He's not kind, and I'm not saying He does, but I'm saying the whole basis of creation, according to Hasidis, is Lamaila minus Seychel.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: And you're running around wanting to control everything, forget about what.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: This is the way I'm gonna walk out my door, is that everything has to be according to Sekel.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: That's the way life works.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: And if I can't understand it, I don't know, it has no place.
28:15
SPEAKER_05: So if you're if you're stuck in that idea or in that way of thinking, how do you get out of that?
28:25
SPEAKER_05: Because it's like a non-Seychel thing.
28:27
SPEAKER_05: So you you can't think your way out.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: You can't I'm gonna say an epicursis thing that came to me while I was talking before.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: You want to know how you get and feel Lama in a seichel?
28:39
SPEAKER_00: Learn a little bit about even Api Nakhasidis.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna control your life by blowing a ram's horn on Rosh Hashandam morning.
28:56
SPEAKER_05: Can you explain that to me?
28:57
SPEAKER_05: It's the second day.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: No, this year it's the second day.
29:01
SPEAKER_05: Can you explain that to me?
29:02
SPEAKER_05: I for sure can't explain that to you.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay, could the average, I don't know, Litvak explain why blowing a Fashtunk in a horn is gonna make his whole entire year?
29:12
SPEAKER_00: It's a Mishnah.
29:13
SPEAKER_05: Beyond beyond the fact that it's a Mishnah and God said to do it, no.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
29:18
SPEAKER_05: So explain to me what you're doing there.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, the the the the world would used to make fun of a lot of things Hasidim do because it doesn't make sense, cycle to themselves.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: I gotta tell you, blowing a Russia, a horn, a Russia's son, a ram's horn, and the Rebbe's Madaik and a Mimer, it's not even muhubar to the whatever this means, it's not even connected to the alive animal, it's gotta be dead.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: And that's gonna create everything is going to pivot on your blowing of this ram's horn.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: This God that's almighty.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
29:56
SPEAKER_04: No.
29:57
SPEAKER_04: No.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: So think about that.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it doesn't mean that that's not what's happening, that all of life is gonna be set up by the by the blowing of the horn, by the chauffeur.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: But sit with that a little bit and feel whether it means that you're working in a world of Sechel and God's working in a world of Sechel.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: Or Lamay Laminase.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: No, I've never seen it said anywhere that blowing the chauffeur is Lamay Minasechel.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying from my measly human point of view, it's ridiculous.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: And being that I wasn't brought up with a shofar as five years old, when I used to hear about chauffeur in Russ Hashanah, I used to laugh at it.
30:49
SPEAKER_05: This is ridiculous.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: This is like the Vikings.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, give me a symphony, give me a beautiful no, but it's like the Vikings.
30:55
SPEAKER_05: They're blowing their horn and that yeah, okay, I hear you.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: It's easy to become an epicorus if you want to use your sachel, by the way.
31:04
SPEAKER_05: I hear that too.
31:06
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so listen, okay, I'm going to I'm gonna try it tomorrow morning.
31:12
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna hear the chauffeur, at least uh the preparation of the chauffeur for uh Ell.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Ell's a whole other discussion.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, how does that fit into it?
31:20
SPEAKER_00: And and you know what it says?
31:21
SPEAKER_00: It says in the who it says in the Navi, who doesn't become anxious and fearful when they hear the chauffeur being blown?
31:31
SPEAKER_00: That's a pussy.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: And I'm looking around, never mind internally.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying, I don't know anybody who's freaking out.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's it's no different than why should God want me?
31:50
SPEAKER_00: Is there power because he didn't need to want me but wants me?
31:56
SPEAKER_00: Or are you thinking that he now he needs me?
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Like that question with the with the color.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: Where is the connection deeper when I could choose somebody else or when I couldn't choose somebody else?
32:13
SPEAKER_00: The ego would rather say you couldn't choose anybody else.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: But and you know what?
32:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so so I just so you're saying focus, but just going back for a second.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: The whole thing is on what is God and what have you made him into.
32:35
SPEAKER_05: So I'm saying if you're stuck in that paradigm, the to the way to unstuck yourself is to focus on already what doesn't make sense and just feel it.
32:48
SPEAKER_05: Right.
32:48
SPEAKER_05: And feel it.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, the Midlarebah, I've learned this many years over and over the Hassim used to learn Derachayam from the Midlarebba before entering Al.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: And this year it's hitting me in a very different way for the first time.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: Prochashem.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: And he says something that's fascinating to me.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Let me open me up.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you what he says.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: He says that all he says there's two different all sin comes from precursor.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: Right?
33:16
SPEAKER_00: You're taking off the yoke of heaven.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: What is the yoke of heaven?
33:19
SPEAKER_00: It's not mitzvah.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: The yoke of heaven is that reality is the world we live in.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: God created it, he's creating it, and he wants something from it.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: And it's not your own domain to play around with, right?
33:34
SPEAKER_00: And that's cabal soul.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: And cabal soil would be even your goof is not yours, according to Allah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Right?
33:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay, very beautiful.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: What's precursor?
33:47
SPEAKER_00: Precassol is let's eat, drink, and be merry.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: So whatever I want to do.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: So the middle of said there's two levels of precursor.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: Fascinating.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: He says, one level of precursor is because I have taivas, because I'm burning to eat, I don't know, um, lobster thermidor, is that what it's called?
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Because I want to have this taiva to do X, Y, and Z, I go and do it.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: So you're obviously saying that I don't have a yoke on me, but it's because you have a taiva.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: He says, but then there's a precurs oil of late sunness, scoffing, making fun, or callis roish, back to the five-year-old kind of way of looking at things.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm a little kid.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: And anything, and there's he brings an expression, uh, one late deflects a I think it's a hundred, but I'll say a thousand rebukes.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: Because you're just a late, you're not going to hear anything.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, there was in my chat of uh of the shul I'm in, and they're big into not talking during davening, right?
35:00
SPEAKER_00: So they have a separate room called a pulish.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: If you want to go and talk during davening or talk during Kriyasotera, go to the Polish.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Have a drink, have a hot dog and a blanket, etc., etc.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: And there's food, but don't talk in shul.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: It's a great idea, right?
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: So Guy puts on the chat this week.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Now that's on Shabbat, is what I just described.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: He puts on the chat that he's noticed that whenever he finishes davani, which is a little bit later than everybody else, the guys who finish before him, let's say in Shakris and during the weekday, they're talking.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: And it's disturbing him while he's Davani because he's dovened slower.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: So he's asking on the chat that people should have respect for each other and not talk while the other guy's Daven.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: There was a 200 plus responses to that, where they skewered the guy.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: Why does he care?
35:54
SPEAKER_00: And what does he think?
35:55
SPEAKER_00: And this is not a regular shul.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: If you want a regular shul, go somewhere else.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what's wrong with these people?
36:01
SPEAKER_00: The guy's just saying, please be quiet so you can continue divining, right?
36:04
SPEAKER_00: It's like nuts.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: This is light sunnis.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: In a certain way.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: So says the Mitlarebba that light sannis is the ultimate of precursor.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: And that is callis roish, nothing is serious, there's no consequence of nothing.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, you consume bleak vol, whatever you want to consume.
36:30
unknown: Okay.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about it, and I came up with the following example.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: As you're not going to be surprised.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: When we eat food, we don't consider anything past the tongue.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Because all we're interested in is in the c is in the taste, right?
36:51
SPEAKER_00: And the and the beautiful feeling you feel of comfort food.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: But the body is a miraculous object itself, right?
37:04
SPEAKER_00: The liver that has 900 different functions just in the liver, right?
37:10
SPEAKER_00: And on and on, you can just go on and on and on and on and on.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: The body is a total miracle and it has rules.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: That example in extreme is the diabetic with sugar, but it has rules.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: And you're breaking all the rules while you're pigging out on Shabbos, let's say Shabbos even.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: That's precuss oil.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: That's taking off the yoke of reality.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: It's not the yoke of heaven, it's the yoke of reality.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: Reality is the body has its rules, has its way it functions.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: And if you break the function and you and you sub you sub uh subject it to things that it never had before, let's say plastics today is a big thing, right?
37:57
SPEAKER_00: Therefore, it's not going to function properly.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: That's not reward and punishment.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: And and and some and and I just heard this week, I didn't tell to anybody what I'm saying.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: And I heard this week they're laughing about a Jackie Mason skit about that the only person who looked sick was the owner of the health food store.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Right?
38:20
SPEAKER_00: So that's late sunness.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: So it's is it causing is it is your body taking revenge on you?
38:28
SPEAKER_04: No, it's causative.
38:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I get it.
38:30
SPEAKER_04: I get what you're saying.
38:32
SPEAKER_04: Very interesting.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: So what's so what's the king in the field?
38:36
SPEAKER_05: What's the king in the field?
38:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:38
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's an interesting.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: Well, what is the what's the field?
38:42
SPEAKER_05: Your life.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: The field is the way you think with late sunness and all this stuff.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: How does the late get out of being a late?
38:51
SPEAKER_00: It's really difficult because you're a late.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: And if you sit and hit him over the head with musr, the altar, the mitlarab is saying seems to be saying, yeah, it's not going to help.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: The guy who has a taiva, you can tell him, you know, listen, you're going to go to hell, or you're going to get sick, or you're going to do this, and then you have all this.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: I'll listen up.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: But the lates, very difficult.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Because you can, you can, it's almost like the the communist socialists now in America making fun of capitalism.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: They're just going to be late sonim.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there's a lot to say about it, but the bottom line is it's time for us, Chasidim, to have a clear picture of God.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: Because we're coming to the past, we're coming to the parsha says all of your enemies and all of your counter forces come from that you weren't basimcha, that you were involved with this God.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: And it's hard to be basimcha when you're worried about the God smacking you across the face like a like a like like a guard in a prison.
40:05
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
40:07
SPEAKER_04: I got it.
40:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: You should have a ksiva khsima taiva.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: And you should expect a ksiva simataiva.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Because God loves you.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: And Shabis is oinig for a whole year.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Should have oinig.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: And um the biggest oil is Mashik.
40:48
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