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SYSK Selects: Scooby Dooby Doo, Where Are You? · Stuff You Should Know

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chuck here with this week's Saturday Select Pick
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  Speaker 1: of the Week. I'm going for Scooby Doo this week.
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, where are you? We? You know, enjoy doing
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  Speaker 1: our pop culture episodes and some classic TV shows here
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  Speaker 1: and there, and Scooby Doo certainly falls into that category.
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  Speaker 1: So I think everyone should enjoy this one. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard it, and maybe if you have, give it
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  Speaker 1: another listen because there might be a secret code embedded.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just getting to release it, but enjoy. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: stuff you should know from the house stuff works dot Com. Yeah, Scooby, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as
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  Speaker 1: always is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. He is no longer
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  Speaker 1: older than me. We are both seven years old at
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  Speaker 1: this moment, right. I knew you catch up eventually. I
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  Speaker 1: just came home from elementary school. My backpack has just
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  Speaker 1: made a thud on the floor, and then stones have
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  Speaker 1: just gone off, and thank god, you know, and um
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  Speaker 1: on comes Scooby Doo. I'm not here though, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean You're not here? I'm making out
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  Speaker 1: with some girls. We're both we're both seven I know
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Everyone knows I was a late bloomber.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true. You were quite the casanova chuck okay um,
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't matter. Although I could have told you
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  Speaker 1: within the first half of a second of hearing the
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  Speaker 1: theme song, what Scooby Doo is about to come on?
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  Speaker 1: Which episode? What? What version? Because remember there's ten ten,
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  Speaker 1: ten point seven million incarnations of Scooby Doo, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them. What you just heard was, of course the
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  Speaker 1: Russian version of the Scooby Doo theme. Those of you
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  Speaker 1: who grew up in Vladivostock in Moscow, they're probably rocking
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  Speaker 1: out to it. Scooby do. Yeah, that's pretty good, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was from the well again, the Russian version of
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  Speaker 1: the new Scooby Doo movies. But I mean the ones
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  Speaker 1: that I was used to or um, Scooby Doo, where
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  Speaker 1: are You? Which is of course the first one to me.
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  Speaker 1: That is those twenty five episodes. That was Scooby Doo. See,
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  Speaker 1: I think it extends a little bit, but it's more
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  Speaker 1: encompassing than that. I'm a little older though, but it
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  Speaker 1: only runs up to the limits of my nostalgia. I
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  Speaker 1: don't watch it these days. I have to say, though,
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  Speaker 1: I'm harden to know that Scooby Doo is still in
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  Speaker 1: the world. As a matter of fact, I read a
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  Speaker 1: study Chuck from two where they were trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out if cartoon characters have an effect on children's decisions
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  Speaker 1: with food. So they gave kids, like some boxes that
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  Speaker 1: had gummy bears, granola, just some there was snack food, right,
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  Speaker 1: was there a Scooby snack in there? Um? And then
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  Speaker 1: they gave them boxes of the exact same stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: rather than like playing non cartoony boxes, they had cartoon
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  Speaker 1: characters on the boxes they had. This is a two study,
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  Speaker 1: So they had Shrek door of the Explorer in Scooby Doo.
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  Speaker 1: No way. Guess which one of those three cartoon characters
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  Speaker 1: was forty years old at the time, Um, the Explorer,
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  Speaker 1: Scooby dooty years forty years The other two were like
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  Speaker 1: ten years old at the time. And they're using this
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  Speaker 1: on four to six year olds and Scooby Doo still
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  Speaker 1: making them eat gummy bears. Well, I breezed through that
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  Speaker 1: Slate article you sent that really sums it up nicely.
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  Speaker 1: What and that's the reason we're doing Scooby Doo when
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing uh, I'm trying to think of some
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  Speaker 1: fly By Nights and cartoons. Yeah, the Jetson's or no
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  Speaker 1: fly By Night shirt tails, but awesome, love the shirt tails.
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo. The reason we're doing this is because it
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  Speaker 1: has persevered through the years like Muppets and become so
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  Speaker 1: iconic that it's more than a cartoon. Yeah. In that
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  Speaker 1: Slate article there's a they quote the guy who created
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  Speaker 1: Clarissa explains it all and he's like, no one can
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  Speaker 1: explain why Scooby Doo is so iconic so popular, because
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  Speaker 1: he's like, it's not it's not the best, it's not
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  Speaker 1: the worst. So why has it been around for forty years?
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, every cartoon creators like, why
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  Speaker 1: can't my crappy cartoon become iconic? You know? I mean
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  Speaker 1: they don't even there's no answer, is there? There isn't.
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  Speaker 1: And that's part of the allua Scooby Doo. Their their proposals,
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  Speaker 1: like everybody loves a dog, um, everybody loves a mystery. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: One of the um one of the reasons it's enduring
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  Speaker 1: to kids. This author supposes is because they don't do
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  Speaker 1: like the ironic like double entendres right to where you know,
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  Speaker 1: adults get it and kids get it, but really, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all for kids. It was all for kids plus kids
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  Speaker 1: like uh. The reason, probably for the same reason that
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  Speaker 1: things like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys have persevered,
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  Speaker 1: is because kids doing adult like things like solving mysteries
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  Speaker 1: and getting the best and getting the best of adults.
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  Speaker 1: Kids love that stuff. I was the Three Investigators fan,
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  Speaker 1: Did you read them? Now? It was the three It
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  Speaker 1: was Alfred Hitchcock's nephew and his two friends. Really, it
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. I was big into a Encyclopedia Brown. I
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  Speaker 1: loved him too. Yeah remember when he busted the kid
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  Speaker 1: who was faking crying because the tears are coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the wrong end of the eyes. Yeah. I could
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  Speaker 1: never figure him out, though I always felt dumb. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I ever figured any out either. Shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: feel dumb. They were They were purposely made to obvious
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  Speaker 1: skate the truth. Alright, So Dictionary Brown was great. Encyclopedia
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, Scooby Doo. Let's go to the history.
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  Speaker 1: How about that the birth of Scooby? Yeah, because it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't and it wasn't immediate. No, it was not what
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  Speaker 1: was an immediate hit, but it wasn't an immediate Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Took a while to get on the air. Some incarnations happened.
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  Speaker 1: Josh first one Scooby Doo, where are You? Originally, um, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's go back a little bit before. Originally it was
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  Speaker 1: called Who's Scared? And then they had another name that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuck for a little all called Mysteries five. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And originally it was based on what was the radio
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  Speaker 1: show I Love a Mystery. I Love a Mystery Slashdobe
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  Speaker 1: gillis the TV show, which is what Shaggy's based on.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a Beatnick. He's based on Ma Energy Crabs.
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  Speaker 1: Fred is based on Adobe or other stuff. The other
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  Speaker 1: way to look at is that they were based in
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  Speaker 1: large part of the Archie Gang, and Shaggy takes after
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  Speaker 1: joke Head. I didn't see that. Yeah, interesting, but and
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  Speaker 1: I'm an Archie guy. There were There wasn't even a
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  Speaker 1: dog in the in the original versions, well not in
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  Speaker 1: the very original version. There was no dog at all.
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  Speaker 1: The Mysteries five comes along, there is Jeff g Off
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  Speaker 1: of all things Off, Mike Kelly, Linda, Linda's brother w W.
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  Speaker 1: This is just unsettling, the unfamiliarity. And a dog called
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  Speaker 1: too Much, Yeah, who was shaggy war like, he was
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  Speaker 1: a shaggy dog, wore sunglasses and played the bongos because
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  Speaker 1: they were a band. That was the original concept that
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  Speaker 1: they were a band. So the dog played the bong
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  Speaker 1: gos and they were worried. They had a Great Dane
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  Speaker 1: idea at first. Then they were worried that the makers
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  Speaker 1: of Marmaduke, You're gonna be like you ripped us off,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and they tried too much and we're like,
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  Speaker 1: too much sucks well, and Archie had ay a sheep dog,
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  Speaker 1: so they steered away from that to the Great Danaans.
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  Speaker 1: And then Jeff and Mike became they merged, became Ronnie,
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  Speaker 1: and then Ronnie eventually became Fred, Kelly became Daphne, Linda
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  Speaker 1: became Velma. W W became Shaggy but was no longer
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  Speaker 1: Daphne's brother. But it seems like I've heard of some
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  Speaker 1: sort of distant relation that they've made reference to in
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, like they were something. Yeah, well they were
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  Speaker 1: somehow related, but not brother and sister. Interesting, I could
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  Speaker 1: just be making that up though maybe. Yeah. Alright, so
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  Speaker 1: that's um how it was for a little while. Then
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  Speaker 1: it eventually became the Scooby Doo as we know, and
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  Speaker 1: love became the great thing as we said, right, and
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  Speaker 1: we left somebody out there's a studio exact who has
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  Speaker 1: been who well, it was totally instrumental in this creation,
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  Speaker 1: like he ordered the show from Hannah Barbera. His name
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  Speaker 1: is Fred Silverman as far as I know, Fred's named
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  Speaker 1: after him, right, oh really, And the whole reason there
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  Speaker 1: was a dog in there was because Joe Ruby and
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  Speaker 1: Ken Spears, the writers and developers of Scooby Doo, two
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  Speaker 1: young guns at the time, right, they knew that, um,
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  Speaker 1: Fred Silverman loved dogs. He was a dog guy. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the whole reason they inserted a dog. And there's
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  Speaker 1: two young writers like put a dog in there, and
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  Speaker 1: the exactly love it, right, And they asked Joe Barbera
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  Speaker 1: of Hannah Barbera if they could do that. In Barbara's responses,
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  Speaker 1: do whatever you want, and so they put the dog right. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But Fred Silverman also had an even bigger impact on
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo, didn't he? Uh, the name Scooby Doo. Ye, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he got that supposedly from Dooby Dooby Doo, Frank Sinatra
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  Speaker 1: Strangers in the Dark, Night Night, same thing. It was dark,
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  Speaker 1: the night is dark. Let's see it's in Alaska. The
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  Speaker 1: banners acceptionally quick today, thank you. So Fred was this
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  Speaker 1: is kind of a landmark show at the time because
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  Speaker 1: he wanted a half hour show, and cartoons weren't half
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  Speaker 1: hour shows at the time. They were like Yogi Bear,
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  Speaker 1: it was like eight minutes and then eight minutes and
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  Speaker 1: eight minutes, or in the case of like the Flintstone,
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  Speaker 1: that was a primetime thing. So this was geared towards
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  Speaker 1: Saturday morning programming, and he wanted to have a full
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  Speaker 1: half hour plot line and a little more substance going on.
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  Speaker 1: He also um wanted to steer away from violence. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This The Scooby Doo came onto the scene at a
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  Speaker 1: time when cartoon networks were um well, networks that show
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  Speaker 1: cartoons were increasingly under pressure from parents groups, family groups,
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  Speaker 1: church groups to stop showing as much violence in cartoons
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  Speaker 1: like Johnny Quest there's a lot of rockham sock'm action
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  Speaker 1: in that and um so they decided that Scooby Doo
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  Speaker 1: and his his buddies would outwit villains rather than beat
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  Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, they were never even like punches thrown
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  Speaker 1: and Scooby Doo much less you know, mock gun violence exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And and um yeah those guns in Johnny Quests were
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  Speaker 1: cool though the two. Um, but think about it, like,
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have had like all the contraptions that Fred
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  Speaker 1: came up with, or any of them came up with,
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  Speaker 1: like the the net that like you know, you tripped
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  Speaker 1: and it just pulled you up or whatever. Well I
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  Speaker 1: think that was a thing, right, it was, But you
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  Speaker 1: don't need that if you just punched the guy. So
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  Speaker 1: this whole aspect that these elaborate trap that they always
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  Speaker 1: ended up setting that Scooby and Shaggy had debat the
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  Speaker 1: bad guy into was a result of this movement toward
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  Speaker 1: non violence. Well, at first cartoons, they point out in
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  Speaker 1: this article, which I didn't realize cartoons at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Before this, no one had really cared about the violent
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  Speaker 1: thing because they weren't really geared towards kids. They were
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  Speaker 1: shown before movies to general audiences in the theaters, and
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  Speaker 1: then when it jumped to TV, kids started watching them.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly because their cartoons and they do a study like that,
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  Speaker 1: like why are kids inherently just like drawn to drawn image?
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  Speaker 1: They're dumb, stupid kids. And uh, then people started saying,
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  Speaker 1: a wait a minute, kids are watching these things. Now
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  Speaker 1: we should have something not violent, right, and now Australia
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  Speaker 1: is outlawing direct marketing to kids. So good for you Australia. Indeed, Josh, indeed,
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  Speaker 1: uh when and we should mention September ninety nine when
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo finally appeared and it was a big hit
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  Speaker 1: right off of that. Yeah, here is a bit of
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  Speaker 1: trivia for you. The first episode ever showed was titled
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know this? What a night? For a Night?
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  Speaker 1: The second night is K and I g h T
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  Speaker 1: What a night? And was it a ghost night? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've seen it before a million times. It's on. It's
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  Speaker 1: in the intro good night with the red plume. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: Uh And that, Josh, is a staple of Scooby Doo.
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  Speaker 1: That was um many times they were fighting zombies and
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  Speaker 1: ghosts and demons, but to take a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: the scare out of it, because that's what they were originally.
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  Speaker 1: The only time they were really worried was the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there was so many like scary elements, but they
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  Speaker 1: were always humans projecting projecting a ghost on the wall
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  Speaker 1: of the cave. There was never obviously any real ghost
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  Speaker 1: because it was even though his cartoon was rooted in reality,
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  Speaker 1: it was always a criminal. Yeah, and there's a there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things that play here, which I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think about until I started researching this. But UM Junior
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  Speaker 1: Skeptic Magazine had this issue dedicated Scooby Doo because it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's based on a completely skeptical view of the universe,
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  Speaker 1: especially Fred. You know, there's not ghosts. It's it's all
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  Speaker 1: it's very empirical, Like there's a ghost right there, but
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  Speaker 1: it can't be a ghost because there's such thing as ghost.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get to the bottom of it. And there
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  Speaker 1: is like some sort of human explanation of it. And
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  Speaker 1: that well, like I said, that was Fred, that was
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  Speaker 1: his Well, let's get into the characters Fred was. They
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  Speaker 1: all had their roles. Fred was a skeptic. He was
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  Speaker 1: the leader of Mystery Incorporated, and he was usually the
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  Speaker 1: one saying, nine times out of ten he was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that can't be that it is this and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. That was Fred Role.
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  Speaker 1: He was very dapper, dandy guy with his scarf on
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  Speaker 1: his neck. It's called a cravat, Chuck. It's perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 1: People were cravats. Okay, see you've got one, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: He was very handsome, a little square now he's a
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  Speaker 1: He was a prep. He was a prep and he
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  Speaker 1: was a little aloof maybe you're gonna saying, yeah he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was the leader because he was the one that
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  Speaker 1: was always trying to keep everyone on task and get
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  Speaker 1: the mystery solved. And he was voiced by Frank Welker
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  Speaker 1: right and still is today. If I'm not mistaken, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I think he is. I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: who has been doing voices from the get go, is
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  Speaker 1: that Casey Casu Well, no more. Actually when did he
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  Speaker 1: stop a couple of years ago? Okay, so when did
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  Speaker 1: his Top forty run stop? Because he started Scooby Doo
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  Speaker 1: and his Top forty hosting duties in the same year. No,
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  Speaker 1: he did Scooby Doo longer because he he did Scooby
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  Speaker 1: Doo all the way up until the latest incarnation and
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Lillard took over. Actually, really, he's doing it now.
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  Speaker 1: He does the voice because he did such an awesome job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm no huge Matthew Lillard guy. But when I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even see the Scooby Doo movies, I should point out didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see them all, but I saw parts and
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  Speaker 1: I remember thinking, wow, that dude is shaggy. I remember
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  Speaker 1: thinking like, wow, my eyes are bleeding. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they're the best movies. Were they good casting? Though they
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  Speaker 1: raked in some dough good casting. Austin Roberts was responsible
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  Speaker 1: for the famous theme song that they used in the
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  Speaker 1: original and then that was uh many times. It was
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  Speaker 1: also another pop song played while they come montage. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of them on YouTube. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: that was generally Austin Roberts as well. And apparently if
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  Speaker 1: you go onto YouTube and start searching, um Scooby Doo songs, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna find that they If you're not familiar with
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo and you just came across these, you would
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  Speaker 1: assume that Fred and Daphne were in love and dating.
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  Speaker 1: I always assumed that as a kid. Yeah, but if
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  Speaker 1: you if you watch it again, like friend Zam paying
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  Speaker 1: that much attention to Dafney, she could have taken her left. Fred, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that was all just like I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid and I thought, well, they're clearly the two most attractive.
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  Speaker 1: That's projecting your own hormones on friends. What it was,
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  Speaker 1: so they should be hooking up, Josh. I'm gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: the listeners a question here. Okay, listeners, we're gonna sit
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  Speaker 1: around for a week or two. No, no, no, it's
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  Speaker 1: just rhetorical listeners. If someone came this is a Fred
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  Speaker 1: noon In style question. If someone came up to you
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  Speaker 1: and introduced themselves as Norville Rogers, how many people do
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  Speaker 1: you think would have any kind of reaction to that
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  Speaker 1: other than what's nice to me, Norvil? I say nine
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  Speaker 1: out of ten would have no idea that that is
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  Speaker 1: Shaggy's name. Did you know? I I knew at some point,
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  Speaker 1: but no, I don't think I ever. Had you walked
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  Speaker 1: up to me asked me that, I would have been like,
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  Speaker 1: get on my face, normal, normal. Shaggy Roberts was Scooby
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  Speaker 1: Doo's best bud Casey Kayson as the voice as you
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  Speaker 1: said forever, Well, no, it was a finite amount of well,
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  Speaker 1: of course, one of my favorites. I think the probably
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  Speaker 1: the unsung hero, the real overlooked one was Velma. Velma Dinkley.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah she had a last name too. Yeah. That I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know all of them, did I mean? And spears
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  Speaker 1: they went to, Uh, they went to the mattresses. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you could say over this the mat Sure, yeah, Elmy,
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  Speaker 1: is she your she your faith in that? I I
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  Speaker 1: root for underdogs. I tend to. She lost her glasses
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  Speaker 1: all the time. She was a little bookish. She was
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  Speaker 1: pretty ugly, little square as well. Yeah, um and uh
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  Speaker 1: she but she got things done. She was very smart,
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  Speaker 1: she was suspicious, She was a lot of times she
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  Speaker 1: was about like a crooked real estate like anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of times she was the one that kind
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  Speaker 1: of put it all together. Yeah, Fred kind of took
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  Speaker 1: the credit many times. But because it was the sixties,
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  Speaker 1: of course, she was voiced by Nicole Jaffee at first,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: then later Pat Stevens and then do you know who
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: does her voice now on the new one, Mindy Cone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: But the Facts of Life, No way, she's Velma Dinkley.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Now wow, on the new Scooby Doo Show. I've kind
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to check out the new Scooby Doo. It's like a
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: star studied cast. I know I haven't seen it, so
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I need to do so as well. So we got
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to talk about well, jinkies is her her little catchphrase?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yes and zinks clearly as Shaggy's. Everyone knows that. Yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: what was Daphne's catchphrase? Help, I'm stuck somewhere. She used
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to get in trouble quite a bit, if somebody was
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: going to fall into a pit or be pulled back
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: into a tramp door, a sliding bookcase or something like that,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be separated from the gang. Yeah, it was Daphne. It
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was Daphnie. They portrayed her as fairly helpless for many,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: many years until now she's evolved a little bit. The
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: newest incarnation. She knows karate cool, a little bit more
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: self sufficient, doesn't rely, She's not like the oh goodness,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the damsel in distress type, right and well, the reason
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: um everybody always made sure to rescue Daphne instead of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: just leaving her behind because she was hot, Well that
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: was one. She was also very rich and her dad
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: bankrolled mystery ink. I did not know that either. He
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: purchased the mystery machine. I assumed that he probably kept
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Scooba in Scooby snacks, maybe gassed up the Mystery Machine
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: tires when you needed it, that kind of thing. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: don't know what else. They needed, food, money, They slept
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: in the Mystery Machine a lot. Yeah, well it's assumed,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: so I guess you don't really see him sleeping. Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: They didn't have a house that I know of. No,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: they roamed around, yeah, solving mysteries. Daphne was voiced by
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Endeira Stefania Christofferson, then later Heather North, then later Grade
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: de Least Lee the Leslie de Least. Where are you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: getting this information? Well, I did a little digging around
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and h then we got to cover the man himself.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And by man I mean dog, Yes, Scoob. Yeah. Don Messic,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the Great Don Messic voiced Scooby. And if you think
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: he sounds like Astro from the Jetsons, it's because he
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: voiced Astro from the Jetsons too, which one was asked,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Oh the dog, Yeah, yeah, it sounds like Scooby. Yeah,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that's because it was the same guy. Yeah, Okay, who
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: else was there? Wasn't um why iowa Iawa Takamoto. Yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I think he's still the a VP at at the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Hanna Barbara. Yeh, but did he create Scooby Doo? I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: thought Ruby and Spears did. What was I think the role?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I think he was just on the early development executive
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: development team and remains there Today's mistaken. I'm sure he
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: had a big hand into that. He also created, um,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the let's see the Great Gazoo. Oh really yeah, man?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And um, well this is the Great Gorilla mc Gilla Gorilla, No, no,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the Great Great Pape. Yeah he created those two. Yeah,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that's a nice track record there. Yeah. So the Gang,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it's you know, most of the shows are sort of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: similar to The Gang encounters uh some mystery and they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: usually uncovered at the end, these meddling kids. If it
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't for you, I would have made off with the loot.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: It's very by the numbers, which is sort of funny
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that it's this cartoon is persevered for this many years
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: because it was all the same and that that show
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: description you just gave, that was geared towards the children
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: who were raised by wolves over the last forty years, right,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: who's never seen it? Yeah? Like really, Scooby and Shaggy
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: were always hungry. They love the Scooby snacks. They were
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: always scared, and usually they would tempt them with food
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and to get them to act brave at the last minute.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Well, let's you want to talk
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: about it now, about what you know what I'm talking
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: about A Chuggy and Scooby were always hungry. Yeah, that's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: factor fiction here. I hear fiction, So go ahead and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: spill it well substantively around the bush there. Okay. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of course there's the the um, the rumor that Shaggy
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and Scooby were Stoner's right, long standing rumor. Well, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. They're always hungry.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: They talk, you know, kind of slow and sluggish. Shaggy
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just look at him, yes, exactly, look at the Mystery Machine. Sure, yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and it's nineteen nine when it premiered, exactly. I mean,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like got flowers on the side. They're originally a band,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: so they they they just assumed that it was like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Ruby and Spears or some of the development guys um
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in joke that they made Shaggy and Scooby a um uh.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Stoner's right, and not just assumed, but people say that like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: oh no, dude, it was this big inside joke like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: this is almost the conspiracy bent to it. But um,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the people who were there creating these characters swear up
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and down that they're they're not. And apparently you could
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: be like, well, of course they're not going to say that. Now,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: why would you want to say that now? Can't come
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: out and say that. But Fred Silverman, the guy who's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the studio executive, who had his fingers all involved in this,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: apparently he would never have gone along with that kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of thing. He was so involved that he he was,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he just would have known. Well, And Tacamoto said the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: same thing, right, he said this came out years after,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you know, the show premiered. It was not a thing
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: like it makes I get it. I get it, guys,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but it's not true. But the beauty of it is
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is like it doesn't matter. Takemotos can't say that all
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: day long. You know, it's gonna believe him, you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I mean like there's still gonna be some sixteen or
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: old that says exactly man, did you ever notice blank?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's like a coming of age, first the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: hormones and then the stoner epiphany. Yeah, yeah, Well there
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: was also the rumor that um, Velma was gay. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that's not true either, of course, because they in the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: New Incarnation they're hinting Mindy Cohen's taking in a really
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: sexual direction. Well, they are hinting at Shaggy and Velma
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: having a relationship. I don't think they've gone full blown
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: with it, but they're kind of poking around that area. Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they always like if the gang split up, it was
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: no Velman and Daphney went off with Fred, didn't they. Well,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's usually Fred and Daphne, So that was another rumor,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Was it Fred and Daphney We're off doing their thing?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But that's not true either because Fred you know? Or
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: is it Isn't It up to the imagination of the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: individual maybe so rather than the intention of the creators. Yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: we don't want to kill anything. You'd just be a sick. Oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: as much as you want dear stuff, you should know
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a listener, uh Josh In seventy two and I don't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: know if you like these, but the full hour long
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the new Scooby Doo movies started coming out, the ones
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: with the guest stars all of a sudden, with don
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: k Nots not don Knots playing someone don k Nots
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: just Don Notts. He was in two yea Phillis Diller.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Who else Harlem Globetrotters. Obviously they were I think Batman
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and Robin weren't. Two and just who were actually mostly
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: dead at the time, but their voices done by um impersonators.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I wondered about that. Actually, Don Adams from Get Smart,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I was he on there? Um Jerry read Little Mayory
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Sunshine all right with me? He's saying that's something they
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: found him. It was a haunted opera. I think Sunny
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and Share Mama Cass working at a handy factory, or
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: she owned a cane factor. It's just mean back in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the days when obesity was funny. Well, they took the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: show an hour. That was a good one. They took
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the show to an hour and just in a slightly
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: odd direction, but it worked for me. I enjoyed those
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: shows very much, and no one seemed to, you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the you could suspend the disbelief that sure the Harlem
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: globetrot her shirt there in the cave all of a sudden,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: right and they're in their uniforms with a basketball tricks. Yeah. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it was a good press for all them, I'm sure,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: although if you're really having to rethink suspending belief, disbelief
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: when it's a cartoon, it's time to check in somewhere.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Side characters, Josh gotta mention Scrappy Doo, who annoyed me
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a bit. Oh yeah, there are a lot of people
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: out there that hate Scrappy do I mean hate him
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: like he's Hitler's dog. Scrappy was actually, uh, Scooby's nephew,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and as everyone knows, he was the counter to Scooby.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Was very brave and brash. You could even have brash,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: very much brash, and then it's kind of a kind
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of a jerk. He was a little bit of a Ye,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: he was a troublemaker. And then my favorite, which was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Scooby Dumb. Was he your favorite? Yeah? I love Scooby Dumb.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: He was the like the exploitation character. He had like
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: that hat and he had a pork pie hat, was
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: dumb looking, and he had a huge Southern drawl and yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: clearly a hillbilly. He was voiced, my friend, by the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: legendary DAWs Butler. And if you're a cartoon fan, if
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: your cartoon aficianano, you're like, of course Dalls Butler. If
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you're not. You still are a fan because he did
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yogi Bear, Quick Drama, Grawl, Snaggle plus yeah, and huckleberry Hound.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: That's quite a range, well, huckleberry Hound, Quick Drama, Growl
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and Scooby Dumb or not a range, but Snaggle Puss
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: thrown in there, and it was like it's a shining
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: moment Yogi and he has actually a really great long list.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I think he did Fred Flintstone for one year or
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: one episode, maybe the pilot, and then he did Barney
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: for a little while. Um he I mean his You
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: got to his I M D P d P page
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and it's like cartoon all star. God, dude, did you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: go to the Hanna Barbara's corporate page. What's it like?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: They have a page that has like a listing of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: all their cartoons and it's alphabetical. Um, they have everything.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: They did everything. The only one that I watched that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I loved that was not a part of my late youth.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Um that they didn't do was Thunder of the Barbarian. Yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one. That was good. I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: speaking of Hong Kong Foo though. I think that was
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: everything was they did. Um, the super Friends they did
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Yogi Bear, they did um adam Ant, like all those
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: cats that hung out with Yogi Bear, Justine, the Pussycats,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: probably the Yeah, the hair Bear bunch, what's the Bears?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Teen Wolf? Did you watch the Team Wolf cartoon? There's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like four or five episodes? Pretty cool? Was this after
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the movie? Yeah? Yeah, I see, I was beyond the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: movie was based on the four episode run cartoons like
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you know what this needs needs, Michael J. Fox, that'll
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: bring it back to life. They did everything that was
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's like this nice trip down memory lane
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to go on. Hannah Barbara's like page of cartoons that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: they've done well. And that's why Fred Silverman went with
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: them because they were at the time. I think they
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: said they did at least more than half of the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: cartoons on the air, Like I believe it. Yeah, it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: probably more like it's my guest. Hong Kong Foo was
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: great number one super guy. Um. Let's talk about the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: animation a little bit, getting to the tech. Yeah, because
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Hannah Barbara was responsible for about fifty of the cartoons
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in existence when Scooby Doo came out, because they figured
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: out how to make cartoons cheap enough for TV budget, Right,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it's pretty brilliant. Yeah, just called limited or planned animation,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and uh full ten years before so I guess in
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the fifties, late fifties is when they devise this. And
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: it's very simple concept. But if a body part doesn't
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: have to move, then you don't have to draw it
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: over and over for each frame, for each cell. So
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that's why when you look at Scooby Doo now sort
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of clear, you'll be like, why did Shaggy walk? He
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: looked like the upper half of his body never moved
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and he just had those low pie legs. Because they
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: didn't want to draw it over and over again. They
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: just drew one leg when leg when like, And they
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: did that using cells, like clear sheets of cellular remember
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the overhead projector in high school? Yea, like those sheets cellular, right,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and the bottom sheet would have Shaggy's upper body, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: then there'd be another sheet with his right leg, another
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: sheet with his left leg, and they just they only
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: had to animate the two upper sheets rather than the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: whole sheet, and that just changed everything. You can buy
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the cells that this great place in Hollywood. It sells
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like framed original cells cartoons. You should get a Simpsons.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I should maybe I should get you one day. Okay,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that cannon generic beer from Los Angeles, Empty cannon generic beer.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's the best gift. Um what else? Chok uh Oh?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The the cravat you were making fun of about wearing, Um,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: it was actually kind of an old animator's trick. Well,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I thought they did not do that. They did with Fred,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like that's the reason why he was wearing a cravat,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I think. But um, you can. You can change facial
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: expressions very easily. You can animate the whole rest of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the body and just change the head in the face,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: right if you have separation right, So you can't have
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: separation that there's not supposed to be a line between
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the neck and the stern um, but there can be
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: if there's a cravat there. Yeah, And they say, if
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you pay attention to these older cartoons, you see a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: lot of neck ties and collars, Like uh, I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Hulcle berry Hound had a necktie of collar, remember that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And I don't snaggle Puss. He dressed like a Chippendale,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: didn't He had like the cuffs and like the tuxedo.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: That's the second time we've mentioned that on the show
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the Chippendale thing. But they did not have and this
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was apparently a Takamoto um decision. They did not have
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: what are called muzzle lines. Right, do you remember that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that uh animated show that's in pulp fiction that Bruce
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Willis when he was a kid, he was, okay, yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: where it's like an animated face and then just like
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the lips are movie. Well, they used to animate just
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the lips moving and the rest of the face wouldn't.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: But Tacamoto apparently wanted more expression than that. We made
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it so the animators couldn't just draw the mouth and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: leave anything else. He drew too many extra lines that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: gave expression to the face, and the result was they
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: forwarded the whole animation process forwarded fast forwarded, Josh. The
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: rest of the show is a little bit like a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: regular show. They scripted like a regular show. They storyboard it,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: They did the voice recording just like you you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: would imagine. Uh. They lay it out and break it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: down on paper, and then it is sent to animation
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: at that point where they lip sync it all to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the mouths. And that largely has been done in Korea
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and other places overseas for many years, Like the Have
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you've seen the Banks the intro to that Simpsons. Yeah, man,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that's awesome, Man, that is so awesome. Did you hear
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that there was some guy on um eBay auctioning off banks?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: He's identity that really he had come up with it
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: over the past few years. He was researching um the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: sale price of some of banks these pieces and tax
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: records that showed the same amounts, and he put it
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: together and was auctioning off for a million dollars and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was about to get it and apparently got paid off
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: by banks. That's what they think, or knowing Banksy. The
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: whole thing was Banks. The good point, what a guy.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So when they animated back in the day, Josh, they
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: traced with ink and then painted onto the back of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the acetate. And today, of course, with computers, the drawings
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: are generally scanned, although they do say that there's still
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of drawing done and most of the coloring
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and details and things like that are added with computers,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: so there's still some purity to that. Most cartoons are
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: not live because it's a terrible strain on the animator's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: risk exactly. And here's the other thing too, there is
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: some editing that goes on in post production. But because
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: this animation, you want to plan it out such that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it's sort of just runs in a line or fashion
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about it. So a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: lot of the editing is um sound effects editing, other
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: sound editing, adding props and just things to enhance it,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that's the deal there. That is
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: quite a deal. It's a free deal. It takes about
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: six months for one half hour show. They say, yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it's a long time. Yeah, I mean think about that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Imagine if they hadn't come up with limited animation, how
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: much that would take? How much longer it would take? Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: six months for a show? Is that possible? Well, I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if that was. No, I think it's now.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: That's how long it takes. What. I don't know if
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that's then or now? You know what, We've had some
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: animators and stuff right in so somebody that we need
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to find out in the industry. Yeah, how long does
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: it take to make a half hour cartoon? Yeah? Minutes shows?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Oh that's kind of true. We had some myths and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: facts that we've already busted, but one of them we
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: didn't get to was, um, there was a myth that
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the show's characters were based on the five Boston colleges. Yeah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I've not heard this one. I had neither. Fred was Amherst,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Daphne was Holyoake, Mount Holyoake, Velma was Smith College, Shaggy
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: was obviously Hampshire, and the party animal Scooby was clearly
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you Mask. And they said that that's not true either.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: In fact, Hampshire College came about a year after Scooby
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Doo premiered, So they said that one kind of kills that,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and they I think Takamoto said this, these are Bostonians
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  Speaker 1: trying to kind of get a little regional pride going.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't get if they were from Boston. There
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  Speaker 1: they were supposed to be from Boston. I heard that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where. Yeah, if Boston people just made
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  Speaker 1: it up, or if there was some sort of reference
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  Speaker 1: to Boston. And here's the other thing I couldn't find that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Hopefully someone will know is I seem to remember as
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a child learning something about then being on a track
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: team at some point, like Shaggy was on the track team.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I think I remember some episode where they referenced that.
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  Speaker 1: So I couldn't find that and hopefully there's like some
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  Speaker 1: Scooby efficionados that will say, oh yeah, of course, of
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: course he's a poll vaulter because he poll vaulted in
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  Speaker 1: episode number twenty four to get away from the wax
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Fanom exactly, you got anything else I do? Actually? Um,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: remember we talked about Fred Silverman. If you look at
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the list of Scooby Doo incarnations in uh in nineteen
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: seventies six, it goes from CBS, which in originally ran
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo to ABC. Yeah, yeah, and he did that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: because Fred Silverman went to ABC. This guy loved this
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: show this much, he just took it wherever he went. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I got one more little factory too. I saw that
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Casey Caysum agreed to come back, and uh, not the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: latest one because Matthew Lillard does it, but I think
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it was the previous. If he could make Shaggy a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: vegetarian because he's a big vegetarian, and yeah, sure, who cares,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want? What if you wanted, it doesn't matter.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: So Matthew Lillard is to Casey Casum what Ryan Sea
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Chris is Dick Clark. Huh uh yeah sure in a way. Well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: although Dick Clark still does the rock and if he
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: just has helped, Yeah, he's a co host now. So
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the sort of the scene, all right, No, I've got
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a little more. If just trolling the internet you get bored,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: search Scooby Doo among some of the other stuff, you'll
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: find some gems. Mental Floss actually has a um quiz
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: where you have to guess whether it's an actual real
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: life event or Scooby Doo plot. Are it's kind of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: some of them. It's pretty neat awesome. Just the concept
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: alone means you should take that quiz. Well, that means
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that they found a few things that were so close
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  Speaker 1: that they decided to base an article. Yeah, people do
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff, real estate developers, they do nuts stuff. Um there.
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  Speaker 1: including the wax fantom uh and then Google did you
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: notice last Halloween had five different logos for Halloween and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: all the more Scooby Doo themed. Yah. So true. So
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: after all these years, man, all these shows have come
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and gone that were huge, and Scooby Doo has persevered
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  Speaker 1: and continues too. That's right, that's pretty awesome. Hats off
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to you, Scooby Doo. Do you got anything else? I
• 38:05
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• 38:07
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• 38:23
  Speaker 1: listener mail Josh. A while ago we talked about um acupuncture.
• 38:32
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  Speaker 1: basic mistake when you go in for it's not a
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  Speaker 1: basic mistake, that's what he Frank in l A describes
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  Speaker 1: it as a basic mistake. It wasn't Frank's testicle either.
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• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that operation. A nurse puts an X on the inside
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• 39:21
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like you got a good sense of humor
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  Speaker 1: about it. Well his friend knows at least, well a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: friend of a friend. Yeah, so yeah, nurses watch out
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: with that sharpie. Yeah, you want to be like fully
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it is. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's all I got. That's quite enough, Chuck. Thank you
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