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The Bolt Report | 7 May · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Goodness, it's the Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm Steve Price
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  Speaker 2: filling in for Andrew Bolt this week. I suspect Andrew
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  Speaker 2: wishes he was here to comment on what's unfolded in
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  Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours around the returning isis connected
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  Speaker 2: women and their children. The bride's return continues to unfold.
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  Speaker 2: As we go to ed to night, we have Aspenbonfield
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  Speaker 2: at Melbourne Airport. We'll check in on the latest in Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: and we're told the Australian Federal Police will speak at
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  Speaker 2: seven point thirty. We'll take that cross live plus Shadow
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  Speaker 2: Home Affairs Spokesman John O. Dunheam will join us shortly.
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  Speaker 2: One Nation's Barnaby Joyce on the government's announcement today of
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  Speaker 2: an East Coast gas reserve, labeled a significant labor reform
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  Speaker 2: by one of the ministers there but for me more interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister was absent and as the contest in
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  Speaker 2: Pharah Titans and the dirty tricks intensify, including funding denials
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  Speaker 2: from the Independent, we'll check in with our panel on
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  Speaker 2: who they think might pick up the seat never held
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  Speaker 2: by anyone but a Coalition member, but first tonight in
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  Speaker 2: breaking news, they've landed. They're back in Australia. In the
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  Speaker 2: last two hours on separate Qatar Airlines flights from Doha
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  Speaker 2: into Melbourne and Sydney. Four Isis brides and their nine children,
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  Speaker 2: one woman and her son to Sydney and the remainder
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  Speaker 2: here in Melbourne. I'll have arrest details for you in
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  Speaker 2: a second. As late as today, the burning question remains,
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  Speaker 2: why are they here? And forget all these excuses that
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  Speaker 2: because they somehow mysteriously gained updated passports, including it would
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  Speaker 2: seem one issue to a boy born not here but
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  Speaker 2: in Syria. The question remains, and remember there are dozens
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  Speaker 2: more of these people still back in that camp. It remains,
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  Speaker 2: why are we letting them back in at all? Look,
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  Speaker 2: the arrival is still unfolding and will cross there shortly.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, there was an ABC reporter, interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 2: aboard the landed Melbourne flight, a Bridget Rolison, who revealed
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  Speaker 2: in an audio post that one of the Melbourne bound women,
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  Speaker 2: let's hope it wasn't one that I'm about to tell you,
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  Speaker 2: has already been arrested, was most looking forward to having
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  Speaker 2: a late in her favorite Colin Street cafe.
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  Speaker 1: I was speaking to some of these women at the
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  Speaker 1: Johar Airport.
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  Speaker 3: They were transity and they told.
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  Speaker 1: Me that they're ruder, be forward to getting back.
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  Speaker 4: Who is Melbourne?
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  Speaker 5: They said that they really missed Australia.
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  Speaker 6: When we spoke to the women that they were basically
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  Speaker 6: for were excited, which one of them told me then
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  Speaker 6: is the.
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  Speaker 7: Most is in Lartes and she could wait a coffee
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  Speaker 7: in Melbourne Collin Street.
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  Speaker 2: Good God, a little revision here. These women, and some
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  Speaker 2: of them with young children, chose or were ordered to
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  Speaker 2: go to Racka, a hellhole set up by a murderous
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  Speaker 2: terrorist group issues who butchered anyone who got in their way,
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  Speaker 2: and remember including cutting the heads off of prisoners on
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  Speaker 2: their propaganda channel. I mean, we had an Australian father,
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  Speaker 2: Kaylin Sharufe now dead thank god, forcing his seven year
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  Speaker 2: old son back in twenty fourteen to hold up the
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  Speaker 2: severed head of a Syrian soldier. I mean Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 2: called that image barbaric. Former US Secretary of State John
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  Speaker 2: Kerry called it grotesque and stomach churning. Incredibly, the surviving
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  Speaker 2: members of Sharoof's family came back here in twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: including five children. So we have been here before, but
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  Speaker 2: this is different. These women chose to go there for
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  Speaker 2: some reason. Their acceptance back home here seems to be
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  Speaker 2: divided along political lines. This was Home Affairs Minister Tony
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  Speaker 2: Burke yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: The government is not repatriating and will not repatriate. The
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  Speaker 8: government is not assisting and will not assist these individuals.
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  Speaker 8: They made an appalling, disgraceful decision.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the government has assisted, they got passports. How
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  Speaker 2: do you think they came back here? But as we
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  Speaker 2: can go to air tonight. As The Australian and Peter
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  Speaker 2: Kredlin have reported in the last hour, two of the
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  Speaker 2: three women who've landed here in Melbourne are expected now
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  Speaker 2: to face charges of crimes against humanity, put simply charges.
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  Speaker 2: The Australian reports around allegations of keeping slaves. Now it's
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  Speaker 2: reported that Quasar Abbas she's fifty four, one of her
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  Speaker 2: daughters will be arrested. In fact, they might have already
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  Speaker 2: been arrested. This is over allegations made by two women
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  Speaker 2: from the Yazidi minority. One of those women, said to
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  Speaker 2: be Tazia, claims she was enslaved by this family and
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  Speaker 2: was repeatedly raped by patriarch Mohammed Ahmed, who she knew
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  Speaker 2: as Abu Omar. Now Omar has denied the claims. He's
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  Speaker 2: in jail in Iraq. Now this will all become clearer
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  Speaker 2: as we expect, as I said an AFP media conference
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of this hour. Meanwhile, in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales was one of the returnees. There was only two,
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  Speaker 2: a mother and a daughter, former nursing student Janai Safar,
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  Speaker 2: who was married to an ISIS fighter and had a
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  Speaker 2: child born there. Safah told The Australian by the way
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  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen she would quote never go back to Australia,
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  Speaker 2: saying it was my decision to go away from where
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  Speaker 2: women are naked on the street. I don't want my
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  Speaker 2: son to be raised around that end of quote. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the Australian is reporting that Safare, along with her son
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  Speaker 2: and an unknown man, were escorted off that Sydney flight
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  Speaker 2: by a federal policeman, according to passengers on board. There
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  Speaker 2: are reports earlier today that Safar would be arrested in
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  Speaker 2: relation to entering or remaining in a declared terrorist area.
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  Speaker 2: Now that might give you some insight into the sort
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  Speaker 2: of people we are importing back into Australia tonight. National
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  Speaker 2: Senate Leader Bridget Mackenzie made it very clear today where
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  Speaker 2: she stood on all of this.
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  Speaker 7: The helpless, hands off almost pantomime that the Labor Party
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  Speaker 7: ministers have been going on with in recent weeks. Is
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  Speaker 7: concerned it hasn't used the Passport Act to cancel or
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  Speaker 7: suspend or delay the travel documents. Is outsourcing their responsibility
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  Speaker 7: by saying it's up to the agency the government should
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  Speaker 7: be able to determine who arrives.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 2: It seems though that senior Labor ministers are a lot
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  Speaker 2: more relaxed, including Education Minister Jason Clair. He bobbed up
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  Speaker 2: on ABC News Breakfast this morning.
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  Speaker 9: Have a look.
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  Speaker 10: I've got faith in the Australian Federal Police. They know
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  Speaker 10: what they're doing. This is not their first rodeo, and
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  Speaker 10: I trust in the words of the AFP Commissioner yesterday
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  Speaker 10: when she said that some of these women will be
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  Speaker 10: arrested when they arrive and others will be subject to
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  Speaker 10: further investigation.
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  Speaker 2: That's proven to be a collect But good luck Jason
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  Speaker 2: finding schools for these children. I'll talk to One Nation's
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce later. But he has in is elected a
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  Speaker 2: number of the persecuted Yazidi minority, that is, has tried
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  Speaker 2: to eliminate in a genocide. Look, miracle of miracles, all
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  Speaker 2: of these people and their children might resettle into Australia,
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  Speaker 2: go about their business sipping lattes on Collins Street. But
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  Speaker 2: if we're so confident of that, why have we spent
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  Speaker 2: millions of dollars and ten years investigating them? And frankly,
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  Speaker 2: if you choose or submit to pressure to unite with
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  Speaker 2: men involved in one of the most murderous, barbaric death
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  Speaker 2: cults in history, in my view, you make your bed
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  Speaker 2: and you lie in it, preferably not here so much
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  Speaker 2: as unfolded in the last forty minutes or so. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go out to Tullamarine Airport. Our reporter on the ground
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  Speaker 2: is Aspen Blomfeld. We are hearing that there will be
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  Speaker 2: arrests made. Aspen do enough. Yet if that has happened.
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  Speaker 11: We still don't know. Steve nine years is reporting that
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  Speaker 11: the Sydney woman and her child have been taken into
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  Speaker 11: police custody. Immediately after that, katar AWE's flight landed at
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  Speaker 11: Sydney Kingsford Smith. They did not leave through the ordinary
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  Speaker 11: arrivals gate. Instead, it's understood they left through a side exit.
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  Speaker 11: It's also understood that they are on their way to
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  Speaker 11: Mascot Police Station where that woman will be charged. The
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  Speaker 11: Australians reporting that woman will be charged with entering and
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  Speaker 11: remaining in a declared terrorist zone. Here in Melbourne Airport
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  Speaker 11: there are three ISIS linked women and eight children. They
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  Speaker 11: landed about ninety minutes ago. However, there is still no
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  Speaker 11: sign of those women or children. Most of the passengers
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  Speaker 11: on that Guitar Airways flight have already cleared customs and
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  Speaker 11: have made their way out of the door here. So
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  Speaker 11: these women and children, well, they may just be taking
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  Speaker 11: a long time to collect their bags, but the more
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  Speaker 11: likely option is that they are currently being interviewed by
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  Speaker 11: the AFP. We know that the Federal Police are holding
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  Speaker 11: a press conference in the next thirty odd minutes. There
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  Speaker 11: are plenty of supporters and family members here at Melbourne Airport.
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  Speaker 11: You might be able to see a few them just
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  Speaker 11: over my left shoulder after they've come out of that
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  Speaker 11: arrival's door. There is a crowd of about ten men
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  Speaker 11: wearing black suits that we understand to be either supporters
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  Speaker 11: or family members of these ISIS brides and their children.
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  Speaker 11: So still a very dynamic situation here, Steve, no sign
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  Speaker 11: of them just yet. Will bring you all the latest
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  Speaker 11: when we find.
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  Speaker 2: Out, Aspen, thank you very much for that. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: I do my mask correctly, if there are two arrests
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  Speaker 2: there and there's eight children, that would leave one of
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  Speaker 2: the mothers of one of the mothers of some of
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  Speaker 2: those children, plus the children themselves. Now, whether they will
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  Speaker 2: be allowed to exit immigration in the normal manner or
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  Speaker 2: whether the AFP will assist them in being taken out
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  Speaker 2: an alternative route, we.
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  Speaker 9: May never know.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll keep Aspen there at the airport. We'll find
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  Speaker 2: out exactly how that unfolds in the next half an
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  Speaker 2: hour or so. In the Australian Federal Police they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a media conference or believe it probably will
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  Speaker 2: be held in Melbourne. Will take you live to that
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  Speaker 2: around about half an hour from now. Let's continue our
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  Speaker 2: coverage of this with the Shadow Home Affairs and Immigration
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  Speaker 2: Minister Jonathan Dunham. Jonathan, this return of Sydney Melbourne double
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  Speaker 2: they're all on the ground. We do know now Nine's
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  Speaker 2: reporting that the Sydney mother and her daughter have been
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  Speaker 2: taken into custody. We expect more arrests in Melbourne. Does
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  Speaker 2: that make you more comfortable about their return?
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  Speaker 5: Not at all, Steve can I tell you the fact
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  Speaker 5: that they're here makes me very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: We should never have let them in. That's the point.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that we are arresting people on
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  Speaker 5: their arrival means we shouldn't have allowed them to come
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  Speaker 5: to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about terror.
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  Speaker 5: Related offenses here, and under the Passports Act there is
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  Speaker 5: a power for the Foreign Minister to not issue passports
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  Speaker 5: to people on grounds of national security, and I would
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  Speaker 5: argue that terror related offenses are a good enough reason
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  Speaker 5: not to give someone a passport anyway. Now Labour have
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  Speaker 5: let them in and so yes, a couple of people charged,
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  Speaker 5: and goodness knows how many will ultimately be arrested. But
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  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, if the AFP cannot
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  Speaker 5: give us a complete picture of what is happening to
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  Speaker 5: that entire cohort and what protections are going to be
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  Speaker 5: put in place for the people of Australia relating to
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  Speaker 5: this group.
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  Speaker 3: Then I'm going to be very worried for a period
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  Speaker 3: of time to come.
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  Speaker 9: You make an excellent point.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the two women, the Australians reporting that the
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  Speaker 2: two women who are likely to be arrested or probably
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  Speaker 2: already have been, and whether they're then taken into custody
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  Speaker 2: and questioned and then released on bail.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We should find that out from the AFP, as I
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  Speaker 2: said in about twenty minutes. But the charges are said
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  Speaker 2: to revolve around the keeping of Yazidi women and using
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  Speaker 2: them as slaves, with one allegation that the husband of
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  Speaker 2: the older woman who's landed back in Melbourne tonight was
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  Speaker 2: involved in raping this woman. Now let's go all the
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  Speaker 2: way back to Doha and back into Syria. What the
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  Speaker 2: hell are they Why the hell are they ever let
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  Speaker 2: to leave there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, exactly, that's the point.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we're not talking about small misdemeanors and perhaps
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  Speaker 5: putting a post up online that we might consider to
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  Speaker 5: be offensive. We're talking about some of the worst crimes here.
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  Speaker 5: So of course, as as been mentioned before, you've got
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  Speaker 5: the crime of going to a declared area and remaining there.
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  Speaker 5: That's one of those charges. And then of course those
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  Speaker 5: allegations around the act of slavery against those year Zdi
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  Speaker 5: women and to read the reports there is disgusting. And
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  Speaker 5: these are people who are now coming back to Australia
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  Speaker 5: who will cost the tax players an absolute bomb, reports
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  Speaker 5: of up to two million dollars per person per year,
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  Speaker 5: and they want to take full advantage of our legal system,
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  Speaker 5: which is of course a hallmark of our wonderful Western democracy,
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  Speaker 5: something that these people opposed, and to bring them back
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  Speaker 5: here in this way and for the government to allow
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  Speaker 5: this to happen is a complete failure of this government's
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  Speaker 5: commitment to our national security and protection of the people here.
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  Speaker 5: So they say they'll be met with the full force
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  Speaker 5: of the law. But the last isis bribe that came
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  Speaker 5: in and was met with the full force of the law,
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  Speaker 5: got a good behavior bond.
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  Speaker 1: So let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean as usual.
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  Speaker 2: I mean these women, we still wait to find out
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  Speaker 2: what the charges exactly will be. And then once they're charged,
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  Speaker 2: of course they're presumed innocent until they go through our
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  Speaker 2: court system, which is not something they would have had
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  Speaker 2: the luxury of in Syria. And they're innocent until they
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  Speaker 2: go through that court process. So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: One thing that stood out for me yesterday, when Chrissy Barrett,
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  Speaker 2: the AFP Commissioner, was asked some questions about this, she
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  Speaker 2: mentioned the children that they would be ah asked to
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  Speaker 2: get involved in some form of de radicalization program. Well
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  Speaker 2: point one, asked is not required to and point two
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  Speaker 2: the very request indicates some form of radicalization probably has occurred.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly the point.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, it is terrible that there are children
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  Speaker 5: who have against their will. You know, they're not adults.
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  Speaker 5: They can't make decisions in the way adults can. So
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  Speaker 5: they have been taken there by their parents, or they
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  Speaker 5: were born there and were under the guardianship.
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  Speaker 1: Of their parents.
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  Speaker 5: So in that sense, it's not their choice and it's
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  Speaker 5: very distressing, but they remain a risk. They were born
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  Speaker 5: into or raised amongst fundamentalist Islamist extremists.
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  Speaker 3: So something is.
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  Speaker 5: Going to have rubbed off on these people, on these kids,
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  Speaker 5: and so therefore they are a risk to our society.
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  Speaker 1: And finally it is acknowledged now as.
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  Speaker 5: You say, they'll be asked to participate in this, and
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  Speaker 5: of course they're going to say no. But even if
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  Speaker 5: they did participate, as the former af officer David Craig's
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  Speaker 5: on an earlier program, on sky. These programs have limited,
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  Speaker 5: almost no success. So I'm very worried about what we
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  Speaker 5: are bringing back into this country. Labor say they can't
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  Speaker 5: do anything about it. Well, now they've done nothing about it.
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  Speaker 5: They're here and they are our problem as a country.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to have to pay for them, and we're
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  Speaker 5: going to have to be worried about them as a community.
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  Speaker 5: Where are they going to be what are they going
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  Speaker 5: to be doing?
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  Speaker 2: We don't know it, yes, And when it comes down
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  Speaker 2: to the question of resources too, does the AFP or
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  Speaker 2: AZO or state police have the resources to properly monitor
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  Speaker 2: these people, let alone what is it? There's another thirty
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  Speaker 2: five potential returnees still sitting in that refugee camp, who
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  Speaker 2: I presume now are going to be able to stand
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  Speaker 2: up Jonathan and go, well, they went, why can't we?
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  Speaker 5: So here we are in Australia, and again through the
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  Speaker 5: news today you see this outbreak of the illicit alcohol
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  Speaker 5: walls breaking out in Victoria on top of the elicit
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  Speaker 5: tobacco trade which is out of control, and this government's
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  Speaker 5: doing nothing about it yet expecting the AFP to fix it. Well,
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  Speaker 5: all of the resources that are going to manage the
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  Speaker 5: arsis Bride's situation, and the commissioners outlined the work that
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  Speaker 5: they were a part of that would have taken resources
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  Speaker 5: away from other things they should be doing. And of
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  Speaker 5: course then if you're going to have round the clock monitoring,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's in person or through some sort of electronic
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  Speaker 5: monitoring program, you're going to have perhaps escorted visits to
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  Speaker 5: certain places.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is going to come at a great cost.
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  Speaker 5: And so instead of dealing with the hideous criminals we
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  Speaker 5: have in our society right now that need to be
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  Speaker 5: dealt with, we're going to be dealing with these people,
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  Speaker 5: these terrorist sympathizers have come back to Australia because Labor
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  Speaker 5: have let them, and AFP officials and others from other
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  Speaker 5: agencies are going to be dealing with this too.
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  Speaker 1: It is not okay.
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  Speaker 5: It is a bad use of resources and it could
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  Speaker 5: have been prevented if Labor had have done the right
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  Speaker 5: thing and stop them from coming in in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Just a reminder AFP media conference probably in the next
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  Speaker 2: ten or so minutes. Something that intrigues me. I want
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  Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of. I mean, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have centered estimates in a couple of weeks. Are
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  Speaker 2: we going to be able to get to the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of you and James Patterson and others exactly what assistance
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  Speaker 2: was given? Okay, maybe not Tony Burke getting on a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: plane and going over there and handing our passports. But
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  Speaker 2: what did his department do, What did the public servants do,
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  Speaker 2: what did the people attached to embassies do to assist
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  Speaker 2: these people? Because every day Australian sitting here watching this
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: tonight are going, well, how come this mob went from
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: a refugee camp to the capital of Syria, Damascus, suddenly
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  Speaker 2: got brand new minted passports and flew home on Qatar
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: airlines in their back here.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yes, and I'll guarantee you now, the first answer
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  Speaker 5: we'll get in relation to questions around these matters is
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  Speaker 5: that they'll say, oh, it's a matter that we're currently investigating.
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  Speaker 1: There are charges laid.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want to pre digits the outcome there.
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  Speaker 5: Frankly, that's not going to be good enough, because I
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: support provided is something we need to get to the
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: bottom of. Syrian authorities today reported that they only allowed
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: these people to go because they were given the go
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: ahead by the Australian government, So on top of the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: biometric testing that was done reportedly back in twenty twenty two.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: The passports that were issued, the fact that no.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: One has ever looked into the fact that I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: it might be Section thirty seven of the Passports Act,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: where it's an offense to carry the passport of another
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: person across international borders without the authority of either the
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: government or.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: The passport holder.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: No one's investigated that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: And if there's a certain individual who missed the doctor
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Jamal Riffley says he carried the passports over he with
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: the courier, that's an offense unless he have authority. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: all of these things amount to a bit of a
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: here no evil, see no evil, and we'll.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Just hope it turns out alright on the day.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: From the Australian government, they have allowed this to have
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: and then in fact I would go further.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: They have facilitated the return of these isis brides.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Bringing with them the risk the potential harm to our
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: community and no certainly we're protected from it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Duddam, thank you very much for joining us. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. The Australian Federal Police Media Conference
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: coming up. So in summary, Two Katari flights landed in
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Australia tonight, one in Melbourne, one in Sydney. The one
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in Sydney had an isis bride and a child on board.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: They rescued it off that plane are now being interviewed
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: by Australian Federal police.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: In Melbourne.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Three Irish isis brides and eight children landed on that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: guitar flight. They have not appeared on the public side
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: of the airport at this stage. Reports are that at
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: least two of those women will be arrested by Australian
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Federal Police. So this is an ongoing story. We'll bring
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: all the latest updates for you. Barnaby Joyce is up next.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Rolling coverage tonight, of course,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: of the a rival back in Australia of the circled
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Isis brides and their children. Three women into Melbourne with
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: eight children, and a mother and a child in Sydney.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: We're told that mother and child has been escorted off
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the flight by Australian Federal Police and we're told probably
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that two women in Melbourne will also be interviewed and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: potentially charged with offences. We'll keep you across that the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Australian Federal Police due up shortly joining me. Now One
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Nation MP Barnaby Joyce, I'm going to go away from
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that issue for a moment, but I'm going to come
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: back and ask you in a moment about the Yazidi
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: population in your electorate. But the government today announced this
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: new gas Yes, the new gas policy East Coast at
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: a twenty percent of the gas to the domestic market
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: now according to the Australian Barnaby and you know this,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the gas producers have been left stunned by the scale
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: of Labour's actual intervention.
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: Is that right? Is that you're understanding?
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's massive. First of all, its total confusion.
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: We had Madeline King with one message, Chris Mahon with another,
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: and then I said I was only uncontracted gas and
• 21:11
  Speaker 13: some people said, well there's not much of that. We're
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: totally contracted, so it doesn't affect us. And then it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: become something more. And now it's actually gone into the
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: actual business case of why these people actually invested in
• 21:24
  Speaker 13: the industry. Now, no matter what you think, people make
• 21:27
  Speaker 13: decisions about how they invest money on the rules that
• 21:31
  Speaker 13: are before them. And when you change the rules that
• 21:34
  Speaker 13: are before them, it completely changes the whole strength of
• 21:38
  Speaker 13: their credit, It changes the whole wreck the reason they
• 21:43
  Speaker 13: are in the market. So you've got to be really,
• 21:46
  Speaker 13: really careful. That's why one nation believes if you want
• 21:48
  Speaker 13: to go into this place and you should of having
• 21:52
  Speaker 13: gas for Australians, you have.
• 21:53
  Speaker 14: To be an equity partner.
• 21:55
  Speaker 13: That is, you kick the tin, you own part of
• 21:57
  Speaker 13: the part of the precinct, take the wins, you take
• 22:01
  Speaker 13: the losses.
• 22:02
  Speaker 14: You're in there as a business partner.
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: But if you just charge in to Sky, to any
• 22:07
  Speaker 13: business and say well, Sky, now I own twenty percent
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: of all your advertising revenue and I can sell it
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: to who I want, then Sky.
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: Will say, well, may our business plan doesn't work like that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: It's not gonna work. It doesn't stack up.
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: You can't just arrive in our office and tell us
• 22:24
  Speaker 13: that you own twenty percent of our advertising capacity. It's
• 22:28
  Speaker 13: and this is the sort of haphazard things that happen
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: under a socialist type of government that believes in the
• 22:35
  Speaker 13: primacy of the state of the individual and does not
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: have any conception of how business actually works and how
• 22:42
  Speaker 13: you actually go forward with the program. If we want
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: to deal with gas issues, and we should if we
• 22:49
  Speaker 13: want a better return to the Australian people, and they
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: should get it, then we should be equity partners in
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: the companies in how they develop new gas fields.
• 22:58
  Speaker 14: So mister Bayne, Madeline.
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: Can help us out streamline your environmental regulations so we
• 23:04
  Speaker 13: can get more gas out of the ground, get rid
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: of your climate change department, get rid of your climate
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: change regulations, and let's get going and we can do
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: great things for Australia, not just in gas, but an
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: oil and so many other things make our nation wealthy.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: One of a couple of logistical things about this deal
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that I couldn't quite understand watching that media conference, Madeline
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: King seem to be suggesting that they're now going to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: negotiate with the actual gas companies to get this deal
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: across the line. I would have thought you would have
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: ticked all those boxes already beforehand. And the other thing
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: that struck me is, you know, Queensland's got all the gas,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: as you know, and Victoria, which uses most of it,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Victoria gets it in a pipeline. Now I'm told the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: pipeline is already completely jammed up and can't take any
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: more gas. So I'm not sure where this gas is
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: going to go the twenty percent of gas we're going
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to reserve.
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: Where is it and where is it going to go to?
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: Yeah, there's capacity constraints and you're dead right that are
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: already there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 14: You can't do it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: But now they've got this other great idea that they're
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: actually going to load it and then ship it round
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: to Victoria and uffloaded. But what's really reverse about this perverse?
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: It would this way, yeah, into an offloading facility. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: mean we've heard people don't have one, Andrew Forrest talk
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: about this, but yeah, well you know, like the green hydrogen,
• 24:34
  Speaker 13: it just doesn't exist.
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: Like it's like all these the whole thing's rubbish.
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: I mean, see if we have to go through this
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: whole sort of retinue of this ranch and dance about
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: this garbage bs stuff that revolves around climate polsy gas policy.
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: But you know where there's a lot of gas.
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: It's under Victoria. It's under their damn feet.
• 24:55
  Speaker 14: But they don't want.
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: To dig it up because of the because of the greens,
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: because the frogs and the moss and the lizards and
• 25:01
  Speaker 13: the skinks and everybody else lives in the Treasury Department
• 25:04
  Speaker 13: of Victoria.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: It gets worse. It gets worse than that part.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've got a Minister for Energy, Lily d Ambrosio,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: who's passed laws through the Parliament that all new builds
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: can't have gas. You've got to connect it to electricity,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: you've got to have electric cook top doesn't and you're
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you're not allowed to have even your barbecue connected to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: natural gas. So well, one person saying to get rid
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: of you can't have gas. The other one is saying,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: we've just done this u butte deal to get gas.
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: Because that's what happens when the green socialists run the place,
• 25:39
  Speaker 13: total unmitigated chaos.
• 25:41
  Speaker 12: Craziness is just if you know, as.
• 25:44
  Speaker 13: My old boss is the same in Accountcy. If you
• 25:47
  Speaker 13: didn't laugh, you'd cry. It is just so crazy. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: so they won't let gas into the houses because gas
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: is evil. But they complain that they don't have enough gas,
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: so they force another state to.
• 26:00
  Speaker 14: Give it to them.
• 26:01
  Speaker 13: And then they say we're going to have manufacturing in Australia,
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: but they don't want to bring the gas up, so
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: this is magic manufacturing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: So they want you to go to electricity.
• 26:13
  Speaker 13: The dearest electricians, one of the dearest electricities in the
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: oecd that we're making dearer because we're blowing up our
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: Qualifi power.
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: Stations to put in wind.
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: Towers and solar panel fields and transmission lines.
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: Because we've got them. Worship the Great God Geyer.
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: It's just I mean, you just sit back and you go.
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: These people are back a clowns, as they used to say.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: There's got no idea, You just sit back and go.
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: You haven't got a clue.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: The other thing that struck me about that media conference
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: politically was Tim Is the other minister was there. He
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: stood up and he made a grand speech saying, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: know this was a significant landmark. Labor reform was so
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: significant Bund who the Prime Minister in your self didn't
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: turn up there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 14: It's typical of Labor.
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: I'd have to say, if you want a seminal Labor
• 27:08
  Speaker 13: Party reform and Labor Party policy, then Tim Ayres is
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: the best man to announce it, and what you heard
• 27:15
  Speaker 13: today is the greatest example of it. And the Australian
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: people suffer because of it because it's chaos.
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: It is these guys have not got a clue. They
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: do not know what they are doing. It is a joke.
• 27:28
  Speaker 14: And you know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: Just like the other.
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: You know, similar to when they're bringing you in fuel
• 27:34
  Speaker 13: we've got one hundred.
• 27:35
  Speaker 12: Million leaders, except that we use ninety two million leaders
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: a day. You know, this is the sort of you know.
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: You sit back and when you sort of drill through
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: the details of.
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: What they say, you find the same thing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: Chaos.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of chaos, we talked on Monday night and
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: we just heard that the inland rail program was going
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to be chopped off.
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: It in the middle of nowhere.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: What's the reaction been since and how are the community
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: is affected by this reacting to it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 12: I don't know where to start with this one, Steve.
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: People are so furious, So let's start on what.
• 28:14
  Speaker 12: We're in the middle of an oil crisis, correct now.
• 28:17
  Speaker 13: The way to mitigate in an oil crisis and transport
• 28:19
  Speaker 13: is to have an alternative to things moving around in
• 28:22
  Speaker 13: semi trailers. That's called railway lines. But they're scrapping the
• 28:26
  Speaker 13: railway line and instead of having one inland rail, we've
• 28:30
  Speaker 13: now got two. One going from Melbourne to Parks from
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: five million people to about twelve thousand people. But then
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: they say it can turn right and go to Sydney,
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: and another one that goes from Newcastle to north Star
• 28:43
  Speaker 13: for your listeners.
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: North Stars about one hundred and fifty people. It's in the.
• 28:46
  Speaker 13: Plain north of Maury and that's where the other inland
• 28:50
  Speaker 13: rail goes. So they won't connect the two up and
• 28:53
  Speaker 13: they won't go where it's And then I hear Minister King,
• 28:56
  Speaker 13: the Minister for Excuses saying, well, they didn't.
• 28:58
  Speaker 12: Know where it started and didn't know where finished.
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: Okay, I'll help you out.
• 29:01
  Speaker 12: It starts at Melbourne and.
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: It finishes at Brisbane.
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: That's why it's called the Brisbane to Melbourne in Land Rail.
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: And all the towns that were going to be advanced
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: because of it, like Parks, like Narrowbi, like Morey, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 13: they want to bridge the gap for the Aboriginal austrains,
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: and so do I, so do I are the indigenous people.
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: So they find the biggest investment project that's going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: happen for the Aboriginal community in more.
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: And they can it. They get rid of it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: But of course this is the hypocrisy of them.
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: See they don't care, but they say that rail is
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: unviable and shouldn't be done, even though they can't provide
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: us the details of how they came up with forty
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: five billion dollars. It's like doctor No from Most and powers,
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: like forty five billion dollars. But I can't actually tell
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: you how it came up with forty five billion dollars.
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: I'll just say it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 15: But then they are going to build a fast rail
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: from Newcastle to Sydney for hundreds of billions of dollars,
• 29:57
  Speaker 15: for which only thirty percent the money will come from
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: ticket sales.
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: It is as you suble, It's just incredible.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: As you said.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: If it wasn't so crazy, you'd laugh. I've got to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: go to some new pictures of these Isis brides, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to give you the opportunity very quickly
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to tell me about the Yazidi people who are in your.
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: Electric No, we've lost fun of me. I think.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: These pictures that we're bringing to you here activity outside
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the Mascot Police station where we've heard reports one of
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the so called Isis brides.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: Has been taken into custody.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You can see the pictures there outside that Mascot police station.
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: And this from the Sidney Monty Herald.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Joe's Janni Safar who was led off the plane in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the back of that car. So they're pictures just in
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and well, it's all happening there in Sydney as we speak.
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: To you now.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: The Melbourne situation is that the eight children and three
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: women have arrived on the Qatar airline here have not
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: exited that Melbourne airport, so they're fresh pictures just in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of the two women in Sydney who have now been
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: taken to a police station in Mascot. We'll have full
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: updates for you in a moment, and of course we're
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: still waiting on the Australian Federal Police there due to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: address the media shortly.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: And we'll talk to our panel next.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Welcome Ack to Price with you our rolling coverage of
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the return of these women and children on two Katari
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: flights out of Doha tonight. They're back in Australia. Two
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: women in Sydney. We've just shown your vision of two
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of those women arriving at a police station in Mascot
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: at the Melbourne airport. Still no sign of three women
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and eight children that have landed back in Melbourne, with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the reports that two of those older women will be
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: spoken to by Australian Federal Police, potentially arrested, and will
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: bring you updates as it unfolds. And in Fresh Breaking
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: News will bring it to you straight away, and vision
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: of those women in Melbourne Charry Marks and of course
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: after me will do likewise. Our panels up next. And
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: apparently I'm told a lighter side of this I showed
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you earlier. An ABC reporter spoke to one of these
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: women in Doha where she talked about her favorite part
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of Melbourne was having a latte in Colin Street. So
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: James McPherson and Christy McSweeney join us. They are with
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: us tonight. James, I wonder how the bloke who runs
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the cafe in Colin Street, which is the favorite cafe
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: of one of these women's feels about her turning up
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: for a late tomorrow morning.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess you ask would she like her coffee
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: califated or decalifated?
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: Oh?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Please, not one of those nights.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Look, I hope they enjoy the taste of the latte.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: They obviously had a taste of liberal democracy and spat
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: it out. Now they're back, so anyway, good luck to them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure how the owner of that cafe in
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Colin Street is going to feel, but he's you're going
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: to get publicity. That's obvious.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Christy in that same ABC interview and the ABC report
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: apparently somehow just miraculously ended up on a plane back
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: with them. They told her that they quote mister Australia
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and we're most looking forward to having that latte. One
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: would say if they told me that, I would have
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: responded by saying, well, perhaps you shouldn't have gotten on
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a plane and gone to Turkey and then cross the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: border into Syria to Raka to join your isis boyfriend
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: who was in the middle of a caliphate where they
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: brutally murdered everybody.
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: I mean, I would love to say that's one of
• 33:45
  Speaker 16: the worst possible things that you could say to a reporter.
• 33:48
  Speaker 16: But of course these people aren't known for their judgment.
• 33:52
  Speaker 16: If they want to leave the democratic paradise of Australia
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: and go and fight for a terrorist organization and go
• 33:58
  Speaker 16: and attach themselves to a terrorist cause, and of course
• 34:04
  Speaker 16: they should be exceedingly generous to the Australia, exceedingly exceedingly
• 34:09
  Speaker 16: grateful to the Australian public who have We can't do
• 34:14
  Speaker 16: anything about letting them back in the country, but they
• 34:17
  Speaker 16: should be gracious in the fact that they have indeed
• 34:20
  Speaker 16: been allowed to return here.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course we've got to let the legal
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: processes run their course and if the charges are proven
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: in court, well, if not, they'll be proven innocent. So
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: they're back in Australia and luckily for them, if that
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: same court process was undertaken in Syria, it might not
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: be quite as democratic. At the point you make, James,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I've made this point a couple of times the AFPs
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Chrissy Barrett yesterday at that media conference she said, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I double check this. I locked it, went back and
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: looked at it again. The children would be asked asked
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: to attend de radicalization courses. Ask really, couldn't we tell.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: Them to do it?
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Well, we're far too polite for that, Steve. So they'll
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: be asked nicely to participate. And one presumes if they
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: would like to do a deradicalization course then they will,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: but if they'd prefer not to, then they won't. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: that pretty much sums up the Albanezy government's attitude towards
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: this group of people. The government has been very hands off,
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: says we're not assisting, but nor are they doing much,
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: it seems proactively to protect the Australian public.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: So You're right.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: According to the AFP, the kids will be asked if
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: they want to participate, and they will participate or not
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: at their leisure, which I think most Australians would be
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: pretty upset about. These kids have been in a region
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: of the world where extremist violence has been rife. We
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: don't know what these kids have seen, what they've experienced,
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: who's been in their ears. You would have thought this
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: would be a man the Tory condition of their return
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: to Australia, rather than a polite suggestion that they may
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: or may not take up according to their own volition.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Christy, I'm going to be very cranky for the rest
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of the week, tonight and tomorrow night on my normal
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Friday show because Jim Charmers has his budget next Tuesday,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: as we all know, and he's declared war on baby boomers.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Now there's no surprise, I am a baby boomer. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: want to bring your attention to something which all landlords
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: should be worried about, especially when it comes to housing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Jim Charmers is trying to polish this budget and make
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: it nicer than we know it's going to be. This
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: is what he said today on Sky News.
• 36:41
  Speaker 17: Our motivation there is not to make judgments about people
• 36:44
  Speaker 17: who have done well, but to make it easier for
• 36:48
  Speaker 17: people who feel locked out of housing because of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 17: way that our housing market and our tax system interacts.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Christy, how does he say that with a straight face.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: We don't want to make things difficult for people been successful.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: That's his reason, Ditra, that's what he does.
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: Well.
• 37:08
  Speaker 16: The commentary around the capital gains tax changes is really
• 37:13
  Speaker 16: unprecedented because the commentary around that speaks to the government
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: perhaps not grandfathering the decision for people who own existing
• 37:23
  Speaker 16: properties and retrospectively altering the law, whether that's wiping it
• 37:29
  Speaker 16: all together or reducing it significantly or putting in another
• 37:33
  Speaker 16: tier for people who already own those properties. So that
• 37:37
  Speaker 16: is unprecedented that the government does that to a taxation law.
• 37:41
  Speaker 16: It really is actually so bold of the government and
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: dressing it up as intergenerational fairness. Well, I can tell you, Steve,
• 37:53
  Speaker 16: you might be a boomer, but I am a gen XA,
• 37:56
  Speaker 16: and so that's two generations there that don't think this
• 37:59
  Speaker 16: is very fair at all.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I spoke James at a football lunch last Saturday at
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: a room of about one hundred, and I said, can
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: anyone in here who believes that it's a good idea
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to have intergenerational fairness, not one person put their hand up.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I my odd add I mean, we don't even know
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: what these changes are going to do. If you're a
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: landlord or you're a tenant, or you know, if you're
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: preventing people from making a quid out of buying investment properties,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: what's it going to do to the amount of apartments
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that people are going to invest in for people to
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: actually live in.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I've really struggle with this term generational intergenerational fairness as well,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: because it implies that older people who have done well
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: have somehow morally failed and they ought to feel guilty
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: for their success. As for Jim Chalmers saying, oh no, no,
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: we're not judging people who have done well well, I'm
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: sure it's called comfort for them that as Jim Charmers
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: comes to take everything that they've earned, that he's not
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: judging them, so perhaps they'll feel better for that. Of course,
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: this is what Labour have to do. If you're going
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: to establish and keep building a welfare state as well
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: as paying off different identity groups to continue voting for you,
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: you've got to get money from somewhere.
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: So who are they going to come after.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: They're going to come after those who have established wealth,
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: and to justify it, they'll talk about fairness. I think
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: most of us know that's a con but they're hoping
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: that that will convince people what they're doing is okay.
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: Well, Christy, I mean you know that.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Of course, our Prime Minister Anthony Albanzi one of his
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: favorite sayings is he loves to beat Tories. I mean
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: this is in built into this government's DNA.
• 39:46
  Speaker 16: Well, he's had the benefits of hard work, you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 16: growing up in social housing in Sydney and progressing to
• 39:53
  Speaker 16: a multi million dollar mortgage on the multimillion dollar mortgage
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: on the Central Coast. So he has walked the trajectory
• 40:01
  Speaker 16: of aspirational wealth. Steve, So what you could say, perhaps
• 40:06
  Speaker 16: that is the category that he now falls into. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: not to mention decades of defined superannuation benefits as well,
• 40:14
  Speaker 16: which is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: Also on the chop.
• 40:16
  Speaker 16: So there's a lot of talk about your family trust
• 40:21
  Speaker 16: will go. We're going to start with capital gains tax.
• 40:25
  Speaker 16: The over sixty fives are going to see a reduction
• 40:28
  Speaker 16: potentially in their private health insurance rebate. That's also framed
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: as fairness and intergenerational equity. Small businesses are going to
• 40:39
  Speaker 16: be hit with payday super from the first to July,
• 40:42
  Speaker 16: so that's anyone who's trying to employ people. There are
• 40:45
  Speaker 16: a raft of changes that I think the capital gains
• 40:49
  Speaker 16: tax changes is just the umbrella that's taking all the
• 40:53
  Speaker 16: oxygen out of this. People aren't aware of the.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: Other any reckon. How do you reckon?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: My ninety one year old mother reacted when I told
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: her this week that her rebate on her private health
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: insurance was going to disappear. I mean, that's real into
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: generational fairness. She's ninety one on a full pension, never
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: taken the money off the government for anything, and they're saying, oh,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: well you're going to have to pay more for your
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: private health insurance. I mean, seriously, you two. Thanks James Christy,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: thank you very much. Appreciate your time very much tonight
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: in the upshot of this whole breaking story.
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: I mean, the.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Situation is changing quickly now, just quickly. I want to
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: again show you the vision of this activity. This is
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: outside Mascot Police Station in Sydney, the nearest police station
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to Sydney Airport.
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: We've heard reports that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: One of the Isis brides, Janai Safar, She's now been
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: taken into custody. And this from the Sydney Morning Herald
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: shows Safar who was led off the plane in the
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: back of that vehicle. So there you go. That is
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: one of those Isis brides. She arrived with a child
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: who is not in that vehicle. We'll have some more
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: updates for you shortly come tonight, though Patrick Christie's is here.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: The UK local elections are underway, and is PM kiirs
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Starmer under every pressure he is in real trouble and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the Greens UK leader Zach Polanski's career questions question that's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: up next, welcome back Toe Price with you. No movement
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: yet on that Australian Federal Police they are due to
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: have a briefing at some stage tonight Sky will cover
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it live.
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: Of course you've got Sharry.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Markson coming up and then of course Paul Murray after that,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: so at one point you'll probably see that tonight. In summary,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: one of those Isis brides is at the Mascot police station.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: No movement yet out of the eight children and three
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: women who have jetted back into Melbourne on the Qatar
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: air Line, let's go to the UK now, Prime Minister
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Kiirs Starmer is in all sorts of trouble and he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: got a local election to look at this weekend. It's
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a blood bath, stuck star Kirs. Starm
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: again is what some people saying it is. And to
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: make things worse, a general secretary of a UK labor
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: affiliated union has now asked for him to resign. Joining
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: me now to discuss more starmageddon is gb News host
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and Bolt Report regular Patrick Christie. Patrick, how are you?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you before we get into this, have
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: you had this sixth circumstance in the UK where women
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: had gone to Rappa and to Syria and with ISIS fighters,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: married them and had children there and you've accepted them back.
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: Has that happened in the UK?
• 43:36
  Speaker 18: So we have actually accepted back the fighters themselves. Forget
• 43:40
  Speaker 18: the wives were at one point incredibly high number of
• 43:45
  Speaker 18: returning jahades, many of whom are now wandering freely around
• 43:48
  Speaker 18: the London area.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we've had some very high profile cases.
• 43:51
  Speaker 18: There's a lady called Shamima Bagum who was an ISIS bride.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: She is reported to have helped so people.
• 43:57
  Speaker 18: Into their suicide vasts and been a member of the
• 44:00
  Speaker 18: Jahandi police over there in Syria. She's currently in a
• 44:03
  Speaker 18: refugee camp. There are calls to bring her back to Britain.
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: And actually our current Prime Minister, one of the many
• 44:09
  Speaker 18: reasons why he's probably about to get an absolute kicking
• 44:11
  Speaker 18: in the local elections today, is the kind of bloke
• 44:14
  Speaker 18: who would happily have given her legal advice and represented us.
• 44:17
  Speaker 18: So I think it's only a matter of time before
• 44:19
  Speaker 18: Shamima Bagum comes back to Britain.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So we've actually done this reasonably well. I mean, our
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: government tries to slip and slide, and so we've had
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with bringing the bag I know we
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: didn't give Hi passports all of that sort of stuff,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: but we certainly have. I think we might have accepted
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: one bloke who was in ISOs and to point back
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: into the country, but not the numbers that you're talking about.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: So tell me about Keiths Stammer. Does he survive next week?
• 44:48
  Speaker 18: Boy, it's hard to see how he does. He could
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: lose at least two thousand council seats. He didn't even
• 44:53
  Speaker 18: want these elections to take place. He tried to block
• 44:56
  Speaker 18: them because he knew he was going to get the
• 44:58
  Speaker 18: kind of spanking that would make fifty shades of like
• 45:00
  Speaker 18: a children's tea party. He's lost the unions, he's lost
• 45:03
  Speaker 18: the cabinet, he's locked his back bench, as he's lost
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: the public. I'm not even sure his own wife is
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: going to vote for him at this point.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: He will have to go.
• 45:11
  Speaker 18: I think at some point the problem, of course, could
• 45:13
  Speaker 18: be what comes next, right because in the Labor Party,
• 45:17
  Speaker 18: if they moved further left then that could.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Be a big problem, especially economically for us.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: Is he the worst prime minister?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You've said, Oh, it's shocking.
• 45:27
  Speaker 18: I mean, you can't actually get any worse. The guy's
• 45:28
  Speaker 18: got absolutely no instinct in such a short space of
• 45:31
  Speaker 18: time from going or winning a massive lun side. He's
• 45:34
  Speaker 18: managed to alienate pretty much every single demographic that this
• 45:37
  Speaker 18: country has to offer, one after the other. He is
• 45:40
  Speaker 18: actually genuinely the least popular prime minister we have ever had.
• 45:45
  Speaker 18: His approval ratings are the lowest anyone has ever seen
• 45:49
  Speaker 18: in this country. And it's at such a bad time
• 45:52
  Speaker 18: for Britain as well, where we've got so many crises
• 45:55
  Speaker 18: taking place here we really needed someone to help guide
• 45:58
  Speaker 18: us through them, not make them infinitely worse us.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Tell us a better I'll make Nigel Farage and Reform.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: What are we likely to see out of these results
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: at the weekend? That might give him even more confidence
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: that potentially human and Reform could actually take control of
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the country. I know your elections is a long way away,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: but what does Farage take out of the weekend?
• 46:20
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean reformer predicts it to be the big winners.
• 46:22
  Speaker 18: Obviously got to wait and see what happens there. But
• 46:24
  Speaker 18: I mean if the country largely goes turquoise and they
• 46:28
  Speaker 18: start winning areas where they've never previously won before, then
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: you think that is going to have all of the
• 46:33
  Speaker 18: momentum in Nigel Farange's favor.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: And look, basically, what it is is a ticket of.
• 46:37
  Speaker 18: Lower tacks, lower immigration, more deportation for illegals, being tough
• 46:42
  Speaker 18: on crime, and giving people an opportunity to get on
• 46:44
  Speaker 18: the housing land.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not rocket science.
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: Obviously, the question there is going to be can they
• 46:49
  Speaker 18: actually deliver that if they get into office. But at
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: least I think the census that we will be led
• 46:54
  Speaker 18: by someone who genuinely likes our country.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: As opposed to a man at the moment who is
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: who doesn't really anything.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of Green's leader Zach Polanski. What's he
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: been up to?
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this guy's a Walter Mitty.
• 47:09
  Speaker 18: But because of his work actually hypnotizing women to make
• 47:12
  Speaker 18: them have bigger boobs, he's been given the nickname Walter Titty,
• 47:16
  Speaker 18: which is absolutely fantastic. He's changed his name. He's called
• 47:21
  Speaker 18: Zach Polanski, used to be called Dave. He's lied about
• 47:24
  Speaker 18: being a spokesperson for the Red Cross, lied about being
• 47:26
  Speaker 18: a fully accredited hypnotherapist, lied about where he lives, kind
• 47:30
  Speaker 18: of be honest about that. He might not have even
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: been paying council tax. This guy, honestly an absolutely remarkable story.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he actually.
• 47:38
  Speaker 18: Could do very very well because the Greens have teamed
• 47:41
  Speaker 18: up with the Muslim vote. As a sizeable Muslim population
• 47:44
  Speaker 18: in this country, most of them seem to be voting Green,
• 47:47
  Speaker 18: so that kind of left Islamo alliance.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: He'd be big, he'd be big.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Fantastic, Petrick, it was a pleasure to catch up with you,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: thinking about it. I'll talk to you soon well, coming
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: up to Cherry Max. And now just to summarize, of course,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: what's happened here tonight. You've had one of the Isis
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Bride's at Mascot Police Station in Sydney. Was still a
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: waiting to find out exactly what's going to happen with
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: those that have arrived into Melbourne. There are expect to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: be charges laid. This story is still developing. Sharie Markson's
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: up next. She'll have full coverage