Latest / The Calcio Guys / UCL League Phase - Good for Italian Teams? Ep. 252
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- 0:10Speaker 1: We are back here on the couch. You guys. Adriano, Janny,
- 0:14Speaker 1: I'm Nicholas. It's been a while. We've been on vacation.
- 0:17Speaker 1: We've been relaxing, we've been busy, but don't worry, we're back.
- 0:21Speaker 1: You can follow us on all our social media platforms, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
- 0:28Speaker 1: listen to us on all your favorite podcasting platforms. But guys,
- 0:32Speaker 1: how's it going.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Going good?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Not so good after what we had to witness today
- 0:37Speaker 3: in the Champions League, and we'll dive all right into that.
- 0:39Speaker 3: But happy to be back. First episode of twenty twenty five,
- 0:43Speaker 3: so we hope to start it off with a bang.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Hopefully many more episodes to come this year.
- 0:48Speaker 4: We know that will happen. So yeah, just happy to
- 0:51Speaker 4: be back, and I hope everybody started off the year well.
- 0:53Speaker 2: And yeah here we are Champions League.
- 0:56Speaker 5: What's that?
- 0:58Speaker 2: Know what that is?
- 1:05Speaker 1: Jenny, You have a reason to smile. Your team, one
- 1:07Speaker 1: of your teams is in first place in city as,
- 1:09Speaker 1: so you have a reason.
- 1:11Speaker 4: We'll get into that way.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're recording this at five point fifty
- 1:16Speaker 1: in the evening, probably one of the earlier episodes we've
- 1:18Speaker 1: ever done, so you know, Champions League. It's it's fresh
- 1:22Speaker 1: in our minds match Jay eight. It's the first time
- 1:26Speaker 1: that Champions League games have even been played in January,
- 1:29Speaker 1: and the under the new format, the last game of
- 1:32Speaker 1: this league phase, so plenty to talk about, you know, guys,
- 1:36Speaker 1: we talked about at the beginning of the season what
- 1:40Speaker 1: to expect of this new format, and we weren't sure
- 1:42Speaker 1: how many points would be needed. And you know, look
- 1:43Speaker 1: at this format. The table's tight. You know, Liverpool finished
- 1:48Speaker 1: twenty one points, they were in first, but after that
- 1:51Speaker 1: you look at the standings. Three teams with nineteen points,
- 1:55Speaker 1: a team with eighteen points, three more with sixteen, about
- 1:58Speaker 1: five with fifteen, a team with fourteen points, another five
- 2:03Speaker 1: with thirteen. Four teams aren't eleven points. Dinomo Zagreb finished
- 2:07Speaker 1: with eleven points and were eliminated based on goal differential.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I feel like it's just so tight that it's hard
- 2:16Speaker 1: to have only eight games and thirty you know, thirty
- 2:19Speaker 1: six teams in a table and have separation. Obviously, you
- 2:22Speaker 1: look at the bottom of the table, young boys zero
- 2:26Speaker 1: points even below, yet they they didn't get enough. We
- 2:30Speaker 1: talked about it with Nick Deany at the beginning the season,
- 2:32Speaker 1: how much they would need. Nick Danny was guessing if
- 2:34Speaker 1: eight would be enough. We were, you know, we talked
- 2:36Speaker 1: about maybe more ten. That's how eleven points plus good
- 2:40Speaker 1: good good, don't eh good goal differential is what you needed.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So I don't know what you guys thought about this
- 2:46Speaker 1: whole format and if something needs to change about this
- 2:49Speaker 1: whole I guess traffic in the table because at the
- 2:52Speaker 1: end of the day, it's coming down to goal differential
- 2:55Speaker 1: between qualifying top eight or even qualifying period for the
- 2:59Speaker 1: next phase.
- 3:01Speaker 5: I think it's fine. I guess I'll be the one
- 3:05Speaker 5: that's speaking more on the positive side of things, like
- 3:07Speaker 5: especially if you're talking about like the next potential stage,
- 3:10Speaker 5: like like you wanted to come down to that you
- 3:13Speaker 5: need Like that's the reason why tiebreakers exist. It's whether
- 3:15Speaker 5: there was group stages or not. You're gonna have teams
- 3:17Speaker 5: being eliminated because of diferential So you know, instead of
- 3:22Speaker 5: having it as eight individual eight individual or like six
- 3:25Speaker 5: individual groups, now you have it as just as overall table.
- 3:29Speaker 5: It's still it's just the same enemy disguised in a
- 3:32Speaker 5: different mask. I So at that point it's like, look,
- 3:36Speaker 5: you have eight potential games too to have a chance
- 3:39Speaker 5: at it right, like instead of having six, now you
- 3:41Speaker 5: have eight. So and it's and it's and you have
- 3:44Speaker 5: a bit more of a leeway in terms of you. Yes,
- 3:47Speaker 5: you you're competing against like twenty three other teams, but
- 3:50Speaker 5: that's also a blessing in disguise because you just need
- 3:53Speaker 5: to not twenty three sorry, thirty two. Right, there's thirty.
- 3:56Speaker 6: Thirty two teams in the Champions League.
- 3:58Speaker 2: That's what it is.
- 3:58Speaker 4: Thirty it's either way.
- 4:00Speaker 5: It's even better, like you have thirty five other teams
- 4:02Speaker 5: yet to get sure, but that means like it was
- 4:04Speaker 5: the top twenty twenty four and up get into like
- 4:08Speaker 5: a playoffs and like the eighth the top eight get up.
- 4:10Speaker 5: Bye yeah right, so yeah, like you just have to
- 4:13Speaker 5: be better than thirty three percent of the other competition.
- 4:15Speaker 5: You have to be in the top sixty six percentile.
- 4:17Speaker 5: It's it is a way. I'm I'm just giving rough.
- 4:20Speaker 6: Numbers, like obviously just not accurate numbers.
- 4:22Speaker 5: But I think it's fine to be honestly, if you're
- 4:25Speaker 5: doing this kind of format, I don't think it's problematic.
- 4:27Speaker 5: But obviously if you guys have disagreements, by all means,
- 4:30Speaker 5: go ahead.
- 4:32Speaker 3: No, I mean, listen, I think we didn't know what
- 4:35Speaker 3: to expect, right, like Nick open the show with, we
- 4:37Speaker 3: weren't sure as the first year under this new format
- 4:39Speaker 3: in the Champions League, so obviously we expected it there
- 4:42Speaker 3: to be you know, ups and downs. But at the
- 4:45Speaker 3: end of it, you know, gold differential or not. I
- 4:48Speaker 3: think it you know, it made it exciting.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I think, like I again, I'm.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I'm still a traditionalist. I still like liked how it was,
- 4:56Speaker 3: you know, kind of like you know, that mindset.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Of if it ain't broke, fix it again.
- 5:01Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's.
- 5:03Speaker 3: The bottom dollar that that counts, you know, in the
- 5:05Speaker 3: world today, especially in sports. So anything to make more money,
- 5:09Speaker 3: extra revenue, they're gonna do. So you know, we were
- 5:12Speaker 3: expecting that obviously. But you know, like you said, Nick,
- 5:14Speaker 3: instead of six games, there's eight, there's you know, two
- 5:17Speaker 3: extra games to to get you.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Over the hump.
- 5:20Speaker 3: You know again, I think there's a lot of storylines,
- 5:22Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the big dogs underperforming, uh
- 5:25Speaker 3: in the Champions League.
- 5:27Speaker 5: Uh.
- 5:27Speaker 4: You know, at the end of it, Uh.
- 5:30Speaker 3: For the Italian teams, I mean there could have been
- 5:33Speaker 3: I think I think going into this actually there could
- 5:35Speaker 3: have been four teams that could have potentially four Italian
- 5:37Speaker 3: teams I could have made it into the top eight.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Of course we had to fumble the bag on that
- 5:41Speaker 3: and it was only in there who who managed to
- 5:43Speaker 3: squeeze into the top eight. But again something new again
- 5:49Speaker 3: was there?
- 5:50Speaker 4: Was it all positives?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Maybe not?
- 5:53Speaker 3: But again I think, you know, there's something to build
- 5:56Speaker 3: on if they're going to continue on this path of
- 5:58Speaker 3: this type of format.
- 5:59Speaker 2: And Champions leagu Again, I'm not too sure.
- 6:01Speaker 3: I didn't read up on it on how it's gonna
- 6:03Speaker 3: you know, continue on, if it's gonna stay exactly as
- 6:06Speaker 3: is and into these next couple of years. But listen,
- 6:10Speaker 3: it's it's the Champions League. No matter what the format is,
- 6:13Speaker 3: people are going to tune in and watch. That's that's
- 6:15Speaker 3: a given. It's you know, besides, you know, international competitions
- 6:19Speaker 3: such as like the World Cup and such. You know,
- 6:21Speaker 3: this is one of the bigger competitions that football fans,
- 6:25Speaker 3: culture fans, soccer fans have their eyes on. So yeah,
- 6:29Speaker 3: I guess besides the underwhelming performance by some of the
- 6:33Speaker 3: you know top uh you know European teams, you know
- 6:36Speaker 3: the man cities of the world, you know, the PhDs,
- 6:39Speaker 3: you know even the US if you want to say,
- 6:41Speaker 3: because they didn't finish to.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Where they kind of wanted to as well, you know
- 6:47Speaker 2: me and start wasn't the best.
- 6:49Speaker 3: They had a good patch in between and then failed,
- 6:51Speaker 3: you know, fumbled on the last match today.
- 6:53Speaker 4: So you know, I think it was up.
- 6:55Speaker 2: And down roller coaster.
- 6:57Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I I thought
- 7:00Speaker 4: I would hate it.
- 7:01Speaker 3: More, to be honest, and and and at the end
- 7:03Speaker 3: of the day, I don't think I minded it too much.
- 7:07Speaker 3: But again, if I were, if I would have to
- 7:08Speaker 3: really true, that would probably stick to how it was.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Like the groups.
- 7:11Speaker 4: You get that that rivalry in the groups, you.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Know, the home and away uh, you know kind of
- 7:16Speaker 2: know what you're.
- 7:16Speaker 3: You're you're setting yourself up for this this table. You
- 7:21Speaker 3: know you're playing. You're playing going from man City to
- 7:27Speaker 3: you know, spart Up Prague and then you know it's
- 7:29Speaker 3: there's not really that that.
- 7:31Speaker 4: Champions League feel in the group stage. Like that group stage.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Kind of gave it something more. I can't really put
- 7:37Speaker 2: my word on it, but it.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Just gave it some some some more, some more juice
- 7:41Speaker 3: you know, to uh to the competition. You know, I
- 7:45Speaker 3: kind of like the one thing that I do kind
- 7:47Speaker 3: of like is that you know, we're not taking you know,
- 7:50Speaker 3: if you're out, you're out. You're not going down to
- 7:51Speaker 3: Europa League and kind of you know, maybe not ruining
- 7:54Speaker 3: that competition, but kind of separating it in a sense
- 7:59Speaker 3: that you know, Championiggest Chamions League, EUROPEA League is Europe League.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Conference is gonna be Conference League. There's no spillage. It
- 8:06Speaker 3: gives it gives these you know Europe League teams or
- 8:08Speaker 3: conferenceingg teams, the ones that are actually in that competition,
- 8:11Speaker 3: you know, a chance to actually lift that trophy at
- 8:13Speaker 3: the end of the day, at the end of the season.
- 8:14Speaker 2: So overall, I think there was some good.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Obviously there are there was, Like I said, it wasn't
- 8:20Speaker 3: all positives. But yeah, I mean, listen, we're onto the
- 8:24Speaker 3: next rounds now, this playoff.
- 8:26Speaker 4: I got to see how this works out. Again, guys,
- 8:28Speaker 4: I'm not sure I didn't read up on it.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Is it a home and away and the matchups that
- 8:31Speaker 3: you're gonna get in the run of sixteen?
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yes? Sorry, Yeah, So it's a it's a new format
- 8:42Speaker 1: this too. So teams nine through sixteen are seeded teams,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and then seventeen through twenty four are the unseated teams.
- 8:53Speaker 1: But it's not like, uh, they just have a pot
- 8:58Speaker 1: of eight teams. A seeded team draws an unseated team.
- 9:00Speaker 1: There's a schedule, there's a a set bracket where your
- 9:05Speaker 1: position in the standings determines who you're gonna play. So
- 9:10Speaker 1: this whole seeded versus unseated doesn't really make sense because
- 9:13Speaker 1: all it is is at the end, there's still the draw.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So bear with me here, Adriano. Yeah, the matchups are
- 9:23Speaker 1: based on the positions. So teams nine and ten are
- 9:27Speaker 1: drawn against teams twenty three and twenty four, So that's
- 9:30Speaker 1: where the draw hass So.
- 9:32Speaker 2: That's already that's already set in stone.
- 9:33Speaker 4: It's just a matter of what teams are going to
- 9:35Speaker 4: beat those teams exactly.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Team's nine and ten versus twenty three twenty four, so
- 9:41Speaker 1: Atalanta and Barosia. They're either they're either going to play
- 9:44Speaker 1: Sporting or Bruges.
- 9:46Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I think once they're drawn they go on opposite sides
- 9:50Speaker 1: of the bracket. I think, okay, eleven twelve versus twenty
- 9:55Speaker 1: one twenty two so Reale or Byron versus Celtic and
- 9:58Speaker 1: man City. So that's Matt City's gonna play either Real
- 10:02Speaker 1: or Byrons, that's juice. What I like thirteen fourteen versus
- 10:06Speaker 1: nineteen twenty is Melan or PSV Juve or fighting Ord,
- 10:12Speaker 1: so we could have we could have a Melan Juve
- 10:15Speaker 1: knockout face. There's no country restrictions this time around. And
- 10:19Speaker 1: then lastly fifteen sixteen versus seventeen eighteen PSG or Benfica
- 10:24Speaker 1: versus Monaco and Bress, so we're gonna have an all
- 10:27Speaker 1: France matchup in that one as well. So it yeah,
- 10:33Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. I I I'm a fan of removing
- 10:37Speaker 1: the country restrictions because that alone creates rivalry matchups. If
- 10:41Speaker 1: we have Melan Juve first round, that's gonna be amazing.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And if you look at the bracket, so based on
- 10:47Speaker 1: where all these set matchups are, the top eight teams
- 10:51Speaker 1: already have their set opponents linked to that racket. So
- 10:58Speaker 1: depending on the draw, uh Inter could play Melan or
- 11:04Speaker 1: Juve in the round of sixteen. Obviously other things need
- 11:07Speaker 1: to happen. They need to be drawn against in the
- 11:10Speaker 1: same bracket as you know where you've in Melan end up.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Obviously you've in Melan need to advance, but that's a possibility.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Imagine that. Imagine Uve's path would be Melan and then
- 11:23Speaker 1: inter That'd be amazing.
- 11:26Speaker 2: So you know what.
- 11:26Speaker 1: I like that. But yeah, in terms of standings, uh
- 11:31Speaker 1: or even the format, like I feel like it was
- 11:34Speaker 1: just less drama straight up. Yeah, I still prefer the
- 11:37Speaker 1: group stage. You know, it's easy to say all how
- 11:39Speaker 1: things used to be were better, but you know whatever,
- 11:43Speaker 1: Like I understand the benefit of this is you play
- 11:46Speaker 1: more teams. That's cool, that's great, and you have a
- 11:49Speaker 1: higher chance of advancing too, but whatever.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Yeah that much better, Like, yeah, it's awesome.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, guys. So the Italian teams finished Enter fourth nineteen points,
- 12:05Speaker 1: Atlanta ninth with fifteen points, Milan thirteen with fifteen points
- 12:09Speaker 1: as well. So there you go. Shows the difference four
- 12:12Speaker 1: spots difference and you have the same points you've been
- 12:15Speaker 1: back twelve points and then Bologna way back twenty eighth
- 12:20Speaker 1: with six points. Any surprises here, guys in terms of standings,
- 12:24Speaker 1: at least for the Italian teams.
- 12:27Speaker 4: I'm going to say, you have it, and I know
- 12:29Speaker 4: and I know I went back. We went back and
- 12:30Speaker 4: forth with Nick guy Bianni and again.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Nick, I love you, so if you're listening to this,
- 12:35Speaker 2: but I.
- 12:36Speaker 3: Think on that episode we had spoken about it, right,
- 12:38Speaker 3: if you very serious and I don't know, want to
- 12:40Speaker 3: sound like a broken record, but if you very serious,
- 12:42Speaker 3: and if they want to do what they were expect
- 12:45Speaker 3: they're expected to do, and their fans, you know, as
- 12:48Speaker 3: much as I we have one here tonight, and I'm
- 12:50Speaker 3: not a fan of the club, but you know what
- 12:52Speaker 3: their fans deserve right at the end of the day.
- 12:54Speaker 2: They obviously they obviously they want to win. They haven't
- 12:58Speaker 2: touched that that trophy in a long long time. So yeah,
- 13:03Speaker 2: I think for them underwhelming.
- 13:06Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's no hate.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It's no it's no trying to jump on the you know,
- 13:11Speaker 3: we already, we already make fun of you enough.
- 13:13Speaker 4: This is no nothing new, but and it's not to
- 13:15Speaker 4: to to attack the Juva fans, but uh.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Personally, for me, it's it was the reality of of
- 13:20Speaker 2: this uh, this uh, this tournament.
- 13:23Speaker 3: You know, you know, they're lucky obviously that they advanced
- 13:26Speaker 3: to you know, from the top twenty four, because that
- 13:29Speaker 3: would have been even worse if something really dramatic went
- 13:32Speaker 3: down and they wouldn't have even cracked the top twenty four.
- 13:35Speaker 2: That would have been you know, uh.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Disaster waying to happen. But in terms of the Italian teams,
- 13:41Speaker 4: I think it has for me, it has to circle
- 13:43Speaker 4: back to you. And they're not performed, they're not playing well.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Uh, they're they they show up when they I guess
- 13:51Speaker 3: want to show up.
- 13:52Speaker 2: You know, they draw every other week. It's you know, they.
- 13:56Speaker 4: Didn't have the campaign in the Champions League.
- 13:58Speaker 3: I don't think that they that they would have wanted. Uh,
- 14:01Speaker 3: you know, even losing today, I believe was it to nothing.
- 14:03Speaker 4: I think so.
- 14:06Speaker 2: It just you know, I don't know what it is.
- 14:07Speaker 4: If it's you know, mentally, physically, the coach, we can
- 14:10Speaker 4: blame the all ave us of this.
- 14:11Speaker 2: But if you ask me just you know what, uh what.
- 14:15Speaker 4: Team is the Italian teams you know underperformed or was
- 14:19Speaker 4: a bit of a surprise that has to be has
- 14:21Speaker 4: to be of it because they're far from where they
- 14:23Speaker 4: want to be.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Uh And maybe if you want to say where they
- 14:26Speaker 2: need to be as well, I think I mean to be.
- 14:32Speaker 5: There's only one team in the top eight from Italy.
- 14:34Speaker 5: I would have probably too, especially with how on fire
- 14:39Speaker 5: league has been this season. Ins of the competitiveness. I
- 14:43Speaker 5: figured it might reflected the strength of the league a
- 14:45Speaker 5: bit more if we would have had maybe a second
- 14:47Speaker 5: team in the top eight. But Atlanta sitting outside right
- 14:50Speaker 5: outside at night, then it just goes to show, like
- 14:52Speaker 5: ty greakers are very crucial in these type of formats, so.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Differential.
- 14:57Speaker 5: That's I think, that's just for me, the biggest surprise
- 14:59Speaker 5: out of a this like I didn't expect like like
- 15:02Speaker 5: like more than three, Like three would have been like okay,
- 15:04Speaker 5: it's a pleasant surprise, and expected more, but at least
- 15:07Speaker 5: two two it was like, Okay, I think, I like, realistically,
- 15:09Speaker 5: I think we could have add to Italian team to
- 15:11Speaker 5: the topic.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Only had one, so.
- 15:13Speaker 3: That's we should have had three. We should have had three.
- 15:15Speaker 3: You know, Milan and Atlanta we're right there. I mean,
- 15:18Speaker 3: you know they end up unfortunately watching it at the end,
- 15:21Speaker 3: but you're right, You're right, Johnny, they.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Had they had the chance. Thank you.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Yeah for me, I mean, Adri you said you used
- 15:31Speaker 1: a surprise. I mean, you know, looking back, I can't
- 15:35Speaker 1: say to today's results is a surprise. Definitely disappointment with
- 15:39Speaker 1: the way with the way they've been playing lately. Yeah,
- 15:43Speaker 1: not a surprise, Uh, honestly, Atlanta finishing as high as
- 15:50Speaker 1: they did for me, I think that would be the surprise.
- 15:55Speaker 1: I know, we can, you know, constantly doubt them and
- 15:59Speaker 1: don't how good at Tolanta actually is. And they're having
- 16:02Speaker 1: a fantastic season. I think this is a statement, just
- 16:04Speaker 1: their season as a whole, and the fact that they
- 16:07Speaker 1: could have finished higher. You know, today they tied to
- 16:09Speaker 1: two versus Barcelona, a game they could have won, right,
- 16:13Speaker 1: But look, it's the small differences. They lost one game
- 16:16Speaker 1: in these eight and they're the only team to have
- 16:20Speaker 1: lost one game and not finish in the top eight. Yeah,
- 16:24Speaker 1: so you know, obviously you throw in three draws, it
- 16:27Speaker 1: doesn't help. You know, it's the Manta style. But but no,
- 16:31Speaker 1: for for sure, you know, I'm gonna say Atalanta, Yeah, Adri, Look,
- 16:37Speaker 1: I want to talk about Melan and and youve so
- 16:41Speaker 1: Melan lost against Zagreb today goal scored by former Juve
- 16:46Speaker 1: player Marco Piassa in the sixtieth minute, sixth sixtieth minute,
- 16:52Speaker 1: and you've lost to nothing, another disappointing game. That's two
- 16:57Speaker 1: games without any goals in the Champions League. And I'm
- 17:01Speaker 1: just gonna read a couple of tweets uh Idiano, and
- 17:04Speaker 1: you have to guess whether this was tweeted by a
- 17:06Speaker 1: Melan fan or a u A fan. Oh god, this
- 17:11Speaker 1: is turning out to be a disaster.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Uh.
- 17:19Speaker 3: I joined the obvious, So I'm gonna say the IM
- 17:22Speaker 3: gonna say me line men, fan, it is okay.
- 17:25Speaker 1: We are so unseerious. I can't deal with this team.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Ah that could be both, but.
- 17:32Speaker 4: I'm gonna go yva Melan me okay, they're all me.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Line man, I can handle a loss when we give
- 17:38Speaker 1: an honest effort. Why can't Why I can't stomach what
- 17:42Speaker 1: I can't stam it? Oh my god. What what I
- 17:44Speaker 1: can't stomach is that these players seem to pick and
- 17:47Speaker 1: choose when they want to perform. Ah.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Fuck, that sounds like that sounds like me line, But
- 17:55Speaker 4: I'm gonna think it is.
- 17:57Speaker 1: It's all. It's all from from friend of the show
- 17:59Speaker 1: Sabrina Belle. I saw I saw her tweets. I was
- 18:03Speaker 1: watching the Ve game, and I tweeted out, I said,
- 18:05Speaker 1: today on Today on are these tweets about Juventus or
- 18:09Speaker 1: Melan Because that's exactly you know, it's a handshake game,
- 18:16Speaker 1: like we're both in the same boat. Obviously, Uh, you
- 18:18Speaker 1: guys actually fired your coach, you know, good for you
- 18:21Speaker 1: and actually want a trophy the season, so we can
- 18:23Speaker 1: we can't even say the same thing. But uh no,
- 18:27Speaker 1: I obviously I didn't watch me on Milan's game. I'm
- 18:30Speaker 1: I'm a bit disappointed that there was eighteen games on
- 18:33Speaker 1: today and there's not even one program Red Zone style
- 18:36Speaker 1: that shows all eighteen you know, goes back and forth
- 18:40Speaker 1: this and that. I know the Zone did that the
- 18:42Speaker 1: first season that they had the Champions League and they
- 18:46Speaker 1: scrapped it, you know, which makes sense, But when there's
- 18:49Speaker 1: eighteen games on, you gotta you gotta produce something. Anyways, Yeah,
- 18:55Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about ve Yeah. Look, it's frustrating.
- 18:59Speaker 1: It it's it's sad to see where, you know, at
- 19:03Speaker 1: what point the team has gotten. I understand they coming
- 19:07Speaker 1: out of nine straight sCOD that team, they weren't gonna
- 19:09Speaker 1: win another nine at what they did in that period
- 19:13Speaker 1: was absolutely incredible. But it's just sad to see in
- 19:17Speaker 1: the matter of what five years they last one was
- 19:20Speaker 1: twenty twenty, so a matter of five years, they're in
- 19:22Speaker 1: a position now where they might not even qualify for
- 19:25Speaker 1: Champions League if they do. Where they finish in fifth
- 19:27Speaker 1: place in city. Yeah, it'll be because they you know,
- 19:30Speaker 1: Champions League awards the extra spot with efficient we need that. Yeah,
- 19:36Speaker 1: and you know, I understand that projects take some time
- 19:42Speaker 1: to develop. I do, but I don't see anything in
- 19:46Speaker 1: this UV project that convinces me. I I you know,
- 19:50Speaker 1: Monta comes in, he gets the players he wants, and
- 19:53Speaker 1: they're not good, you know for me. You know, Okay,
- 19:57Speaker 1: that's a lie. Some of them are good, some of
- 19:58Speaker 1: them aren't good for me. One player I've really enjoyed
- 20:02Speaker 1: watching the season is gone. He used the one creating
- 20:05Speaker 1: all the chances today, even touram. He's really good player.
- 20:12Speaker 1: But a guy like kou Miners when he pays seventy
- 20:14Speaker 1: million for him and he's coming off the bench to
- 20:15Speaker 1: day and he doesn't even turn the needle needle. A
- 20:18Speaker 1: guy like Valvich, I know he's from the previous project,
- 20:21Speaker 1: another seventy million dollar player, and we've talked about him
- 20:25Speaker 1: so much on this podcast, right, Yeah, I just want
- 20:29Speaker 1: to see a bit more cohesion between the team. I
- 20:32Speaker 1: want to see a bit more I hate to use
- 20:34Speaker 1: this word because it's overused. Grinta straight up, I want,
- 20:41Speaker 1: you know, to lose two nothing at home in the
- 20:44Speaker 1: Champions League when you have a chance to finish in
- 20:46Speaker 1: a seated position, in a higher position. And no disrespect
- 20:50Speaker 1: to Benfica, but this is not, this is not We're
- 20:53Speaker 1: not playing Barcelona here. And the fact that you know
- 20:58Speaker 1: last week it was the same, the same thing. Zero
- 21:02Speaker 1: zero against Bruges, boring game, zero zero against aston Villa,
- 21:07Speaker 1: boring game. Yes they had the two nothing win against
- 21:10Speaker 1: man City. Yes they had the comeback win against Lepsig
- 21:13Speaker 1: that pretty much saved their season, their Champions League season
- 21:15Speaker 1: because that win, they'd be out this past weekend against Apoli.
- 21:22Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's frustrating. I don't think there's
- 21:25Speaker 1: a quick fix to this. I don't think firing mate
- 21:28Speaker 1: will fix it. I think I don't think he should
- 21:30Speaker 1: be coaching next year. Straight up. I'm just gonna say
- 21:32Speaker 1: that he's done nothing to he's done nothing to deserve
- 21:36Speaker 1: to continue as coach. You know, Peter Lowe was fired
- 21:41Speaker 1: after one season for weight less. He was a better coach.
- 21:45Speaker 1: I understand, you know there was issues with the leg
- 21:48Speaker 1: this and that, but if the club was going to
- 21:50Speaker 1: continue going through these financial hard times, why not why
- 21:55Speaker 1: not keep a leg because he he was the coach
- 21:57Speaker 1: to at least get them through it, and mont does
- 21:59Speaker 1: not the coaching get them past it. Who is that?
- 22:02Speaker 1: I have no clue. I really don't. There's not one
- 22:04Speaker 1: coach out there where I'd say go out and get him.
- 22:07Speaker 1: I think it at the end of the day, it
- 22:08Speaker 1: still comes down to player sliding roster management there. You know,
- 22:12Speaker 1: you is not in position now where they're like re
- 22:14Speaker 1: element trade They're going to go out and get these
- 22:16Speaker 1: superstar players. That is going to push the needle. So
- 22:20Speaker 1: I understand have to be patient as you a fan,
- 22:22Speaker 1: but it's just it's had to see that's it. It's
- 22:24Speaker 1: just it's, uh, you know, I I could talk about
- 22:27Speaker 1: it all day, right, but uh, that's.
- 22:30Speaker 2: I think that's I think I did know.
- 22:32Speaker 3: But just to add onto that, I think I think
- 22:33Speaker 3: it's unfortunately when when you're spot when you're and it's
- 22:37Speaker 3: not just a TV fan, but even to to to
- 22:40Speaker 3: winning teams, right, like when you're spoiled for so many
- 22:42Speaker 3: years of winning you know, trophy, you know, good football,
- 22:48Speaker 3: big players coming, uh, you know, exciting, exciting times when
- 22:53Speaker 3: you're spoiled with that in your history and then and
- 22:55Speaker 3: then it's taken away. It hurts, like you know, me
- 22:58Speaker 3: while going through you.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Know, ten year banter era that was like unwatchable almost,
- 23:03Speaker 4: but you know you kind of have to go through
- 23:06Speaker 4: that to kind of come out.
- 23:07Speaker 3: The other end and and hopefully you know, progress back
- 23:10Speaker 3: to I don't think you ever reached where you once were,
- 23:12Speaker 3: but try to step.
- 23:14Speaker 4: By step kind of build your way back.
- 23:16Speaker 2: To the club that you are. Right So I think
- 23:20Speaker 2: that obviously play plays a factor. And again we're we're
- 23:23Speaker 2: we're in a business that you.
- 23:24Speaker 4: Know, what have you done for me lately?
- 23:25Speaker 3: You know, it's it's right now. Everything has to happen now.
- 23:28Speaker 3: We're in that generation where nobody can wait, nobody can
- 23:32Speaker 3: be patient, and and it does hurt because obviously you
- 23:35Speaker 3: want results right away, and you want to see success
- 23:37Speaker 3: and you want to see your club, uh, you know,
- 23:40Speaker 3: get to the level where you know they can get
- 23:42Speaker 3: to and where they've been before.
- 23:45Speaker 4: So just that's just.
- 23:46Speaker 3: Something to add on to that because I think Melan,
- 23:48Speaker 3: you know, when Milan and even Inter we're in that
- 23:50Speaker 3: those hard ten years, it was it was tough man,
- 23:54Speaker 3: tough to watch, you know, tough tough to you know,
- 23:58Speaker 3: obviously you stick by your team you know, through through
- 24:00Speaker 3: thick and thin, but you know, tough, tough, you.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Know, cultural watching in those times.
- 24:04Speaker 3: So I think when you have a rich history and
- 24:08Speaker 3: again you know, I'm not a fan, but you know,
- 24:11Speaker 3: we live in a city where you know, the Montreal Canadians, uh,
- 24:15Speaker 3: you know, the Winnings franchise in the NHL. I've gone
- 24:18Speaker 3: through a lot of hard years, you know, either not
- 24:21Speaker 3: making the playoffs, not getting back to a championship caliber team,
- 24:24Speaker 3: not bringing home that cup back to Montreal. So you know,
- 24:28Speaker 3: when you have such a rich history of winning and
- 24:30Speaker 3: then it it's taken away from you and you kind
- 24:32Speaker 3: of go into a swamp.
- 24:33Speaker 4: You feel it, you know, year and the year out
- 24:35Speaker 4: a bit harder.
- 24:36Speaker 2: And it's hard to wait to kind of get back
- 24:38Speaker 2: to where you need to be.
- 24:38Speaker 4: But it's yeah, like you know, for for Milan again,
- 24:46Speaker 4: a lot to digest. I think from our last episode,
- 24:48Speaker 4: like I was telling the guys off air, it's.
- 24:51Speaker 3: It's been like kind of a world wind of a
- 24:52Speaker 3: season so far and we're not even we're not even over.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It's uh, I think we' went on what match Day
- 24:58Speaker 3: twenty three in the city and we're just finished the
- 25:00Speaker 3: Champions League uh uh, you know, first round, a.
- 25:06Speaker 4: Lot to digest. Uh, you know, starting off with fun Seca,
- 25:09Speaker 4: now going on.
- 25:10Speaker 3: To contin Sau uh to back to back Portuguese managers.
- 25:14Speaker 4: Uh.
- 25:14Speaker 3: You know what I have to say, I didn't think
- 25:17Speaker 3: that the management would have the balls to pull the
- 25:19Speaker 3: trigger and fire Fonseca, I'll be honest with you, but
- 25:23Speaker 3: they did. They managed to get who I think they
- 25:26Speaker 3: should have gotten, and a lot of new and fans
- 25:28Speaker 3: things they should have gotten from the get go in
- 25:30Speaker 3: contin Sau or a profile.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Like his in you know, in the summer.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Obviously they were linked to guys.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Like low Bitteggy and and you know that didn't end
- 25:39Speaker 3: up transpiring, and they end up you know, third option
- 25:43Speaker 3: kind of being falling on Fonzeca.
- 25:45Speaker 2: But you know, the the.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Change, the almost quick reaction to you know, contin came
- 25:54Speaker 3: here with a mission kind of that general style, but
- 25:58Speaker 3: you know, very animated on the sidelines too, very passionate,
- 26:01Speaker 3: very hard very you know, you say good into right,
- 26:04Speaker 3: like you said, it's overused, but you know, at the
- 26:06Speaker 3: same time, it's it's necessary.
- 26:08Speaker 2: He kind of brings that he's a winner too, very
- 26:12Speaker 2: very much. So obviously and it may be a Wesser League.
- 26:16Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know it doesn't go unnoticed.
- 26:18Speaker 2: You know, he's won a lot of trophies along his
- 26:22Speaker 2: coaching tenures, so he brings that experience. I kind of
- 26:25Speaker 2: want to say, he's uh, maybe it's not the same
- 26:29Speaker 2: lengths and heights, but kind of the Portuguese content, like
- 26:33Speaker 2: he's he's animated on the sidelines. He's you know that
- 26:37Speaker 2: raw rah fucking you.
- 26:39Speaker 4: Know, very very passionate about the game, uh, and hard
- 26:43Speaker 4: on his players, and uh, it's it's.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Kind of that similar thing. Obviously, Conte has done, you know,
- 26:49Speaker 3: great things and won a lot of major trophies compared
- 26:52Speaker 3: to Continu So not to say that they're equal in
- 26:54Speaker 3: that sense, but just to say kind of, you know,
- 26:57Speaker 3: a serial winner, kind of that same type of attitude
- 27:01Speaker 3: and and and way of going about coaching. But you know,
- 27:06Speaker 3: he he comes in and uh, you know write in
- 27:09Speaker 3: time for the super Kopa, we managed to get two results,
- 27:13Speaker 3: go away in.
- 27:14Speaker 2: The second half and bring home a trophy like you said,
- 27:16Speaker 2: neck uh for Milan.
- 27:18Speaker 3: So it's it's been up and down. Even even after that,
- 27:22Speaker 3: we've gotten you know, poor results.
- 27:24Speaker 4: Uh you know, the two tool Dragons kality which shouldn't happen.
- 27:29Speaker 3: Uh comes out and says, you know, the first half
- 27:32Speaker 3: was one of the worst he's.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Ever call, he's ever been a part of it with
- 27:35Speaker 4: the team coaching wise, uh, in terms of performance, in
- 27:38Speaker 4: terms of attitude.
- 27:39Speaker 3: So that says something. Obviously the tune to Jove, I mean,
- 27:44Speaker 3: it just it is what it is. I guess, you know,
- 27:47Speaker 3: I guess on the day the better team won, but
- 27:49Speaker 3: I think there should have been more fight.
- 27:51Speaker 2: It's again like.
- 27:52Speaker 4: Sabrina's tweets were saying, you know, when this team wants
- 27:55Speaker 4: to they come up and play.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Uh.
- 27:58Speaker 3: It's it shouldn't have to be that way. Unfortunately, as
- 28:02Speaker 3: Neo and fans kind of fall, you know, have have
- 28:04Speaker 3: seen that way too often for our liking. So it's
- 28:07Speaker 3: it's frustrating, it becomes frustrating. And again you speak about project,
- 28:10Speaker 3: you speak.
- 28:11Speaker 2: About uh not wanting to wait.
- 28:12Speaker 3: You know, Mian has been in a project, in multiple projects,
- 28:16Speaker 3: if you want to say, going from winning the sculeto
- 28:21Speaker 3: after the banter era with the guy like Poli firing him,
- 28:25Speaker 3: bringing in fon Seca and not working out you know
- 28:27Speaker 3: what six months later Concesau and now personally, I like
- 28:31Speaker 3: cont I like what he brings, and I think again
- 28:34Speaker 3: I need to give him time to kind of really
- 28:36Speaker 3: bring it his team to the you know, the standard
- 28:38Speaker 3: and the level we want.
- 28:39Speaker 2: And we we we we think that he can get
- 28:42Speaker 2: them to.
- 28:42Speaker 3: So, you know, the three to two against Potama in
- 28:50Speaker 3: the Espresso match this past weekend, which again it's just
- 28:55Speaker 3: crazy that these games have to go this way and
- 28:57Speaker 3: we have to stress and and and get nervous over
- 29:00Speaker 3: over results like this, but uh, it is, it kind
- 29:04Speaker 3: of just is what it is. I think what he
- 29:06Speaker 3: has done is kind of brought in the team more together.
- 29:09Speaker 3: I think, you know, the bigger the bigger names.
- 29:11Speaker 2: On the club, the layout, the tails, the man, the Reindeers,
- 29:15Speaker 2: they were kind of they were performing, but not to.
- 29:18Speaker 4: The levels that they that they should be under.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Phone sec and I think comes in and kind of
- 29:23Speaker 2: brought that unity and uh, you know, they're they're they're
- 29:26Speaker 2: they're fighting for for cont I don't think they were
- 29:29Speaker 2: really fighting for Fonseca near the later stages of of
- 29:32Speaker 2: of his tenure for Milan. So I think they need
- 29:36Speaker 2: to continue on the positive patch, you know, like I.
- 29:39Speaker 4: Said, for the Champions League.
- 29:40Speaker 3: You know, obviously they fumbled it today in the in
- 29:42Speaker 3: the two one, which again some some bs in that game.
- 29:45Speaker 4: In my in my opinion, I think it could.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Have won a different way.
- 29:47Speaker 3: I don't maybe think we could have won, should have
- 29:49Speaker 3: won the game, but I wished to draw, I would say.
- 29:54Speaker 3: But they went on a.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Patch there after losing the opening two matches, and everyone's
- 29:59Speaker 4: up doom and Milan they're gonna fumble this Champions League.
- 30:03Speaker 2: They're not gonna do anything.
- 30:04Speaker 4: They managed to.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Go five straight wins in the Champions League, something they
- 30:07Speaker 3: haven't done in about twenty years.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I think it was about five the last time when
- 30:13Speaker 2: that happened.
- 30:13Speaker 3: So, uh, some something there's building box, there's something. There's
- 30:17Speaker 3: something to to startup, laying down that foundations with this team.
- 30:22Speaker 3: You know, I know, like you said, Nick, with you
- 30:23Speaker 3: you don't know if that foundation is really set yet
- 30:26Speaker 3: and and and who to kind of build around. But
- 30:28Speaker 3: I think Melan kind of kind of is in that
- 30:30Speaker 3: way of getting that foundation. I think they do have
- 30:32Speaker 3: good players. It's just a matter of when they want
- 30:35Speaker 3: to turn it on and kind of get everything together,
- 30:39Speaker 3: you know, that consistency, uh, you know, week in and
- 30:42Speaker 3: week out. It can't it shouldn't be that we're stressing
- 30:45Speaker 3: against Katadity, but then taking out uh, you.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Know, Real Madrid in the Champions League, or or winning
- 30:52Speaker 2: a dead be for the first time in how many seasons.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Uh, you know, it's uh, it shouldn't be that way,
- 30:58Speaker 3: unfortunately in culture and especially to say yeah it's uh,
- 31:02Speaker 3: it's no surprise, but again it shouldn't be that way.
- 31:05Speaker 2: But yeah, listen, Uh, upset that we couldn't get into
- 31:09Speaker 2: the top eight because I think we could have liked
- 31:10Speaker 2: to Johnny's point earlier that you know, a second team,
- 31:13Speaker 2: maybe even a third Italian team could have been in
- 31:15Speaker 2: that top eight. Unfortunately it wasn't to be. Uh, you know,
- 31:19Speaker 2: Dinamo gave it to us in their home today, so
- 31:23Speaker 2: it is where it is there. But again we turned
- 31:25Speaker 2: the page. We have the deud Be coming up this
- 31:27Speaker 2: this weekend, which is which is huge. Uh can we
- 31:31Speaker 2: can we hope then try to beat them again is
- 31:34Speaker 2: obviously a talking point, but yeah, it's it's on to
- 31:38Speaker 2: the next one with Milan and I'm just hopeful that
- 31:41Speaker 2: you know, we get into that. We need to get
- 31:43Speaker 2: into Champions that's the bottom line.
- 31:44Speaker 4: I think they're in seventh spot right now.
- 31:47Speaker 2: I think seven or eight in the in the league table.
- 31:51Speaker 2: It's not where we want to be.
- 31:52Speaker 4: So hopefully we get that first part again for champions
- 31:55Speaker 4: Lee because I think some of these Italian teams are
- 31:57Speaker 4: gonna need it.
- 31:58Speaker 2: And yeah, I just again, one game at a time,
- 32:00Speaker 2: and it starts after this game.
- 32:02Speaker 5: It starts.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Uh, it starts this weekend. Uh, I think Sunday against
- 32:06Speaker 3: against the end of the derby.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Jenny, you've been quiet, so we'll turn to you. Uh
- 32:12Speaker 1: so you scored two teams. You have zero conus on
- 32:17Speaker 1: your teams. Me and Giano when we scored two teams,
- 32:19Speaker 1: we have two quincas house on our teams. But it
- 32:23Speaker 1: was funny, I know, you know, we haven't done an
- 32:25Speaker 1: episode since uh this coaching change, but it's funny that
- 32:29Speaker 1: h Sergio's concuse first game was against his son, Uh
- 32:35Speaker 1: to play this son and yeah, yeah, yeah, sure we
- 32:38Speaker 1: got injured right before the game and in the Super
- 32:41Speaker 1: copa yeah, and then they played again. They played each
- 32:45Speaker 1: other again another time, but again, Uh, Francisco was hurt
- 32:49Speaker 1: that that game as well. But yeah, Jenny Conte comes
- 32:55Speaker 1: in this season. Uh not, you know, they they made
- 32:58Speaker 1: a search. I know we talked about them earlier in
- 33:02Speaker 1: this season, you know, weach kind of doubted their abilities
- 33:05Speaker 1: as a true you know, top team there was while
- 33:07Speaker 1: where at Tolanta was number one, but you know, not
- 33:11Speaker 1: believe they're there fifty three points, not sitting comfortably comfortably
- 33:14Speaker 1: because Inter is behind by three points and they have
- 33:16Speaker 1: the game in hand, but they've been not believe if
- 33:21Speaker 1: it feels like they've turned the table right. And again
- 33:24Speaker 1: it helps that there's no other competitions at this point.
- 33:27Speaker 1: But look, watching them play against you've ad honestly they impressed.
- 33:31Speaker 3: Me, and I mean you got to be happy, right
- 33:34Speaker 3: well of course by the way, yeah out.
- 33:38Speaker 5: That that's that's the that's the one disappointment so far
- 33:41Speaker 5: that I felt from the season. It's a loss of
- 33:43Speaker 5: Kisha because like very very big favorite of mine, very
- 33:47Speaker 5: big fan favorite, was such a talented player, great like
- 33:55Speaker 5: like I, I honestly never seen anybody with as much
- 33:59Speaker 5: technical talent as he had ever played for Napoli in
- 34:02Speaker 5: my lifetime. And I'm talking about my lifetime. Obviously, to
- 34:05Speaker 5: go through the history, one's gonna say, yeah, there's not Adonda,
- 34:07Speaker 5: yes obviously, but in my lifetime, you know, like Madadonna
- 34:10Speaker 5: left to like wait before I was like I just
- 34:11Speaker 5: a year or two before I was born, So that's
- 34:14Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like for me, like it was nice
- 34:16Speaker 5: to see, it was nice to have that, and then
- 34:19Speaker 5: it just came out of nowhere. It just seemed that
- 34:21Speaker 5: like just wanted to leave. Don't know what it is,
- 34:25Speaker 5: but I mean Conte's capitalizing on having only one competition
- 34:29Speaker 5: to worry about. I mean, yeah, it is money, like
- 34:32Speaker 5: it is money on and no, and it was gonna
- 34:36Speaker 5: be known that he was going to leave Napoli one day,
- 34:38Speaker 5: like there was no this guy was sticking around.
- 34:40Speaker 2: You know.
- 34:41Speaker 5: It was like it's not as if like oh, like
- 34:42Speaker 5: he why would he leave Napoli such a big club,
- 34:45Speaker 5: Like no, like like it was gonna happen when day,
- 34:47Speaker 5: like it even when they first got like the first
- 34:49Speaker 5: season that they got him, you know, like there was
- 34:51Speaker 5: rumors of him going to Real because his dream club
- 34:53Speaker 5: is Real, you know. So for him, if this is
- 34:55Speaker 5: getting him one step closer to play for Real Madrid,
- 34:58Speaker 5: then by all means, you know, I wouldn't be so
- 35:00Speaker 5: that happens one day where he's going to end up
- 35:02Speaker 5: playing for Real Madrid. So uh, this is getting him.
- 35:05Speaker 5: This is going to get in there much quicker and
- 35:07Speaker 5: that's his goal. Then he has the whole He has
- 35:09Speaker 5: a full right for that, you know, like it's not
- 35:11Speaker 5: like as if you know, anybody can hold him back
- 35:14Speaker 5: from that. So that's honestly what the big thing that
- 35:18Speaker 5: really it's been like irking me a bit. But back
- 35:21Speaker 5: to the talk about coaching, Conte has really changed the
- 35:24Speaker 5: mentality of the team around. Last year was in a
- 35:27Speaker 5: disarray because you know, you lose Ballettis and now you
- 35:30Speaker 5: lose your main voice in the room and it causes
- 35:32Speaker 5: a bit of an uproar in terms of leadership. Uh,
- 35:36Speaker 5: the Lorenzo has himself a horrible season to the point
- 35:39Speaker 5: where at the end of the year wants to threaten
- 35:41Speaker 5: to leave to go to your rival and uvent this,
- 35:43Speaker 5: you know, and then you know, I'll see men with
- 35:45Speaker 5: this whole like the whole mess that happened last year
- 35:48Speaker 5: with all like the TikTok stuff. And it's nice to
- 35:51Speaker 5: have some organization back in back in the room. And
- 35:55Speaker 5: in terms of like what you what Uventus is struggling through,
- 35:58Speaker 5: Like it's Uventus. There's gonna get back into like whatever
- 36:01Speaker 5: top form they're gonna be, whether it's gonna be a
- 36:03Speaker 5: year or so or whatnot. The club is there's no
- 36:05Speaker 5: way that the a team like Juve accepts mediocrity for
- 36:11Speaker 5: for so long. No matter what they'll get, they'll do
- 36:14Speaker 5: whatever moves they might have to make to get it
- 36:16Speaker 5: done however they feel they might have to be done,
- 36:18Speaker 5: whether it comes to sale of a player, whether it
- 36:20Speaker 5: comes to uh, you know, changing of management or coach.
- 36:24Speaker 5: It's that's what's gonna happen for a club like not
- 36:26Speaker 5: and if we're talking Napoli, because I'll get the rope
- 36:29Speaker 5: in a bit for talking Napoli. The Lolents kind of
- 36:33Speaker 5: wants to establish that in in the in the club
- 36:36Speaker 5: and I think he has, you know, because it's it's
- 36:40Speaker 5: it's you'd be really foolish to call Napoli a small
- 36:43Speaker 5: club if if we're talking about like financial uh meaning
- 36:48Speaker 5: and in terms of power in the footballing world, because
- 36:53Speaker 5: you know, like it's they're like one or that they're
- 36:55Speaker 5: like they're they're up there with the big three in
- 36:57Speaker 5: Italy in terms of finances, in terms of purchase power,
- 37:00Speaker 5: in terms of you know, in terms of like competitiveness.
- 37:04Speaker 5: You know, they've been like that for the past what
- 37:06Speaker 5: ten years now, since twenty twenty fourteen, about twenty thirteen,
- 37:10Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, you know, so you'd be foolish to say
- 37:13Speaker 5: that then they're not trying to build that. And I'm
- 37:15Speaker 5: happy that dude just demonstrated that by going after a
- 37:17Speaker 5: guy like Conte, and I hope Conte does that now.
- 37:19Speaker 5: Thing annoying Annoying a guy like Antonio Conte, he's gone
- 37:23Speaker 5: in a year or two. He's not going to stick
- 37:25Speaker 5: around for too long. He's gonna be gone in a
- 37:27Speaker 5: year or two, and who knows, maybe that's when Uventus
- 37:30Speaker 5: comes back in again and be like, hey, you want
- 37:31Speaker 5: to come back to the team, you know, if he
- 37:33Speaker 5: wants to wants to go back to one of his favorites,
- 37:36Speaker 5: so he is a humantino. So it's you know, like
- 37:39Speaker 5: I wantn't be surprised, especially that they're struggling. Might even
- 37:41Speaker 5: happen this year that they might throw him an offer
- 37:43Speaker 5: that he can't refuse in a sense, because like if
- 37:46Speaker 5: they're not going to stick around with Manta, you know,
- 37:48Speaker 5: it'd be crazy to see. But I woant to be
- 37:50Speaker 5: super super surprised, especially if they're thinking about a coaching change,
- 37:53Speaker 5: that they might totally might come around and try to
- 37:55Speaker 5: poach a manager like Conte from Napoli to go to you.
- 38:00Speaker 5: But but yeah, now for Roma, since like didn't have
- 38:06Speaker 5: a chance to talk, Vagnetti has managed to bring them
- 38:09Speaker 5: back up to the top ten. They're no longer on
- 38:12Speaker 5: the ViRGE of relegation now they're in the top ten.
- 38:15Speaker 5: So that's nice to see. Uh, Europa League. The last
- 38:19Speaker 5: game lost win zero kind of sucks to uh, oh
- 38:23Speaker 5: my god, al Alkomar al Zamar. Oh my god, I
- 38:26Speaker 5: can't remember.
- 38:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
- 38:31Speaker 5: Yeah, like that one kind of sucks. But you still
- 38:34Speaker 5: have a chance to kind of like maintain a playoff spot.
- 38:37Speaker 5: So I think that he's he's kind of turning the
- 38:43Speaker 5: club around in terms of in terms of their id, say, mentality, spirit,
- 38:48Speaker 5: I guess. But there's so much work that needs to
- 38:51Speaker 5: be done with that team. Uh, Nick, if you think
- 38:54Speaker 5: you're you think if you think like Juve is going
- 38:56Speaker 5: through some trouble right now, like Roma is in limbo
- 39:00Speaker 5: ROAs like is it, like I know you said, like
- 39:03Speaker 5: Veason in between spot of like like players from like
- 39:06Speaker 5: last organized like like like teams from last project, sorry,
- 39:09Speaker 5: coaches and players from last project trying to transfer over
- 39:12Speaker 5: to a new project and whatnot. Roma's going through the
- 39:14Speaker 5: same thing of where just like every year or so,
- 39:18Speaker 5: you're going through two or three different managers. You're getting
- 39:21Speaker 5: two or three different types of like rental players as
- 39:23Speaker 5: I like to call them, because you know, like yeah,
- 39:25Speaker 5: they were back the day, but now it's like they're
- 39:27Speaker 5: at either like injury prone or like towards the end
- 39:31Speaker 5: of their careers, and it's like, what are you gonna do?
- 39:32Speaker 5: Like you're just the building. Yeah, there's no established project,
- 39:36Speaker 5: there's no established core, there's no established like like vision.
- 39:40Speaker 5: You know, it just seems like it's like a certain
- 39:42Speaker 5: at one point or another, like a certain player might
- 39:45Speaker 5: just come and go and it's like okay, cool, you know,
- 39:47Speaker 5: like uh, you know, like to recently, it hit me
- 39:51Speaker 5: during the way your break, I'm like, oh yeah, it's
- 39:53Speaker 5: still places for a still place for Roma, Like I
- 39:55Speaker 5: completely forgot about it, you know, And it's like it's
- 39:58Speaker 5: at the point where it's like you get players like
- 39:59Speaker 5: golf bick and it's like it's not even being impactful.
- 40:02Speaker 5: You know, that's sad. You know, Mangini is starting.
- 40:04Speaker 1: To scored this weekend's yeah, scoring a little bit now,
- 40:09Speaker 1: but yeah, but it's it was a penalty shot.
- 40:11Speaker 5: It's not enough. It's it was a penalty. Like they
- 40:13Speaker 5: won their last game with two penalties, like and I
- 40:16Speaker 5: think one of them was a very very soft penalty
- 40:18Speaker 5: like the uh the handball and in the in the box,
- 40:22Speaker 5: I think like he's holding Pelagrini back and it's like, okay, fine,
- 40:26Speaker 5: you know his arms out in the natural position, but
- 40:27Speaker 5: is that really a handball? You know what I'm saying.
- 40:31Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 40:32Speaker 5: So, but at least you know there's some positivity there
- 40:37Speaker 5: because you have a guy like he's not gonna stick
- 40:39Speaker 5: around either, Like he's like he's just a full on
- 40:42Speaker 5: the spot right now. We don't know where he's gonna
- 40:43Speaker 5: be going from here. So for Roma, I expect, like
- 40:49Speaker 5: it's good for now, but it's not going to be
- 40:50Speaker 5: good for like enough to get back here into like
- 40:53Speaker 5: your goal of a Champions League spot. At this point,
- 40:56Speaker 5: you know, it's like you need to I think, blow
- 40:59Speaker 5: not blow it up, and it's of like get rid
- 41:01Speaker 5: of everyone, but like really like you know, like start
- 41:04Speaker 5: developing a young core again and just building around that.
- 41:08Speaker 5: Find a manager who's who's good enough for that, and
- 41:10Speaker 5: if you know, what if if you've ends up letting
- 41:13Speaker 5: go of Manta. I think Mata would be good for
- 41:15Speaker 5: a team like Roma because it's still a top club team,
- 41:19Speaker 5: but not with the high expectations and pressure that you
- 41:22Speaker 5: have at two Ventus. You know, like like we said it,
- 41:25Speaker 5: like I said it before in previous episodes where I
- 41:27Speaker 5: think Mata needed to go to like like an upper
- 41:29Speaker 5: tier team, but not like a top like you know
- 41:31Speaker 5: what I mean, Like not like the crazy Big Three
- 41:33Speaker 5: like you needed to go to like like from Bologna.
- 41:35Speaker 5: That's great, you get a top four spot, but it's
- 41:38Speaker 5: a whole different ballgame when you manage one of the
- 41:41Speaker 5: top tier teams in Italy. Uh, Like, like let's just
- 41:45Speaker 5: make sake of argument, you know, like if you're gonna
- 41:48Speaker 5: get to a type of team, you need to like
- 41:51Speaker 5: going to Juventus immediately is tough. There's a lot of
- 41:54Speaker 5: like I understand that, Like I I praise him for,
- 41:57Speaker 5: you know, create being courageous enough to take a project, like,
- 42:00Speaker 5: but he'd bit more than he could chew. And you
- 42:01Speaker 5: could see that in the in in the league. You know,
- 42:03Speaker 5: it's like everyone's like, oh, yeah, but look he's undefeated. Yeah,
- 42:05Speaker 5: but like how many draws can you take.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Twelve.
- 42:09Speaker 5: Yeah, like how many more draws can you take to
- 42:13Speaker 5: be the point where it's like, look, okay, you got
- 42:15Speaker 5: your first loss against Snappily, but it's like, yeah, but
- 42:18Speaker 5: you know, we have like twelve draws to go with it.
- 42:20Speaker 5: What does that really make twelve thirteen draws?
- 42:22Speaker 2: Like, well, do the do the math?
- 42:23Speaker 4: You know, even if you get even if half of
- 42:25Speaker 4: those draws are wins and you start doing the math,
- 42:28Speaker 4: like how many points, Like that's.
- 42:30Speaker 5: That's a lot of points.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking that. I was thinking right the day.
- 42:33Speaker 3: Not to say it's not to say all, not to
- 42:35Speaker 3: say all, you're not gonna not gonna.
- 42:36Speaker 4: Win all those games, all thirteen or twelve whatever it is.
- 42:39Speaker 4: But at least half, let's say half the points that
- 42:41Speaker 4: you gain just by that is they're not struggling at.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Four or five anymore.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're they're pushing through you know, two or
- 42:48Speaker 3: three exactly.
- 42:49Speaker 5: So all in all, I think you met this was
- 42:53Speaker 5: two a bit of a big, big jump for him.
- 42:55Speaker 5: But they needed that change because you know, fans are
- 42:59Speaker 5: getting frustrated it.
- 43:00Speaker 4: But they took they picked up the hardest coach at
- 43:03Speaker 4: the time. They took up they picked up, the hardest coach,
- 43:06Speaker 4: the coach that many teams wanted. Uh, they snagged him.
- 43:09Speaker 4: He went again, what has he accomplished in his career
- 43:14Speaker 4: besides the Bologna project last season? Unfortunately not much?
- 43:18Speaker 3: But hey, you know I was you know, they took
- 43:20Speaker 3: that gamble and I don't think just to add on
- 43:24Speaker 3: to what you guys are saying, I know Nicks, you know,
- 43:26Speaker 3: put it, put it out there and said that he
- 43:28Speaker 3: doesn't think he should be the coach next year. I
- 43:30Speaker 3: don't think board up right away right yet. Personally, Johnny,
- 43:34Speaker 3: I don't know where you lie on it, but I
- 43:36Speaker 3: wouldn't board up right now. You want to You need
- 43:41Speaker 3: you need stability in some sort of You need a foundation.
- 43:44Speaker 2: You brought in.
- 43:44Speaker 3: You brought in Mota, you know, you brought it in
- 43:47Speaker 3: since since you know the first time of allegrity you
- 43:50Speaker 3: brought in allegedly back Pierrelo, Saudi, now Malta. How many
- 43:54Speaker 3: times are you going to change your coach if you
- 43:56Speaker 3: want to have a foundation and have stability. It can't
- 43:58Speaker 3: it can't be that it's every other year for a team. Unfortunately,
- 44:01Speaker 3: like Juventus, you know, like the you know Melan two,
- 44:04Speaker 3: you're going through different coaching changes. You know Roman, like
- 44:07Speaker 3: you said, Johnny and not believe in after you know
- 44:10Speaker 3: split you know they change them three times, but four times.
- 44:13Speaker 5: But it's uh if Antonio Contes are.
- 44:17Speaker 2: There in the world, you know, like no, but you
- 44:19Speaker 2: have a young coach Italian coach that you know, I
- 44:23Speaker 2: think has some sort of identity. I don't think it's.
- 44:28Speaker 4: Totally uh put into place.
- 44:31Speaker 3: You know, the draws are too many, like these thirteen
- 44:33Speaker 3: draws is unacceptable, absolutely, don't get me wrong.
- 44:37Speaker 2: But you're gonna bow. You're gonna go blow that up
- 44:40Speaker 2: to go bring in again?
- 44:42Speaker 4: Who is the grass greener on the other side, NIXT
- 44:45Speaker 4: doesn't see anybody that you really would like as a
- 44:47Speaker 4: juve fan to bring into this to this project right now?
- 44:51Speaker 2: Do you really blow it up for for a one season? No,
- 44:55Speaker 2: but I wouldn't personally I wouldn't right now.
- 44:57Speaker 5: I don't blow it up. But like changes need to
- 44:59Speaker 5: be made, like you need you need to shift.
- 45:02Speaker 4: You're not up in terms of like the coach, I
- 45:04Speaker 4: mean like blow up the coach coaching bro.
- 45:07Speaker 1: We're not blowing anybody up on this podcast CMP this
- 45:13Speaker 1: please guys the biggest speech please But.
- 45:15Speaker 5: If but if you're gonna like keep Mata around. You
- 45:19Speaker 5: need to get players that man to want so lready, lady, But.
- 45:23Speaker 2: But who they?
- 45:24Speaker 1: Who they?
- 45:25Speaker 4: Who doesn't want to want? I don't know, you know,
- 45:28Speaker 4: their biggest loss, Their biggest loss is is.
- 45:32Speaker 2: Band in the back that has been the big the
- 45:35Speaker 2: biggest loss.
- 45:36Speaker 5: That's interesting and is on his way out too. I
- 45:40Speaker 5: think to Man City for like seven.
- 45:41Speaker 4: Years, five million, maybe take maybe take them Mark Easy.
- 45:45Speaker 2: I don't know, like you again, I don't know.
- 45:48Speaker 1: They They need to get whoever is making decisions in
- 45:51Speaker 1: Atlanta in terms of developing player buying low, selling high,
- 45:56Speaker 1: or you know, at least developing players. Maybe they need
- 45:58Speaker 1: some of that Atlanta juice, the magic juice.
- 46:02Speaker 2: They tried to.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Look when you stopped taking the magic water.
- 46:06Speaker 4: Not it's like it's like, uh, the Space dam you know,
- 46:11Speaker 4: Mike Secret stuff and it's just water and then and
- 46:14Speaker 4: then they win cool miners. You forgot the Mike Secret Stuff.
- 46:20Speaker 1: Needs that too. He might he might, he might need
- 46:23Speaker 1: the whole All Stars, what they called the Monsters talent.
- 46:28Speaker 1: He's gonna need to go and take the talents, the
- 46:31Speaker 1: dream Team.
- 46:32Speaker 7: But we men now now I want to watch the
- 46:39Speaker 7: original Space Jam did you guys ever see Did you
- 46:42Speaker 7: guys ever see.
- 46:42Speaker 1: The new one?
- 46:43Speaker 2: Yes?
- 46:44Speaker 4: No, no, No, I don't know.
- 46:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 46:47Speaker 4: I heard it was it was a great I didn't
- 46:48Speaker 4: hear it was that great.
- 46:50Speaker 5: It's uh, it's okay.
- 46:51Speaker 4: It's not anything fantastical.
- 46:54Speaker 5: Obviously, like the original had that charm, this one still
- 46:58Speaker 5: kind of does. But it's just like, I know Lebron
- 47:01Speaker 5: is a basketball player, and I know m J was
- 47:03Speaker 5: a basket but m J kind of sold it more
- 47:06Speaker 5: when he was acting in it than Lebron did. Like
- 47:08Speaker 5: Lebron really made it hard to get into, like you
- 47:11Speaker 5: know what I mean. But they had some good jokes,
- 47:13Speaker 5: there was some there was some good moments. But but
- 47:16Speaker 5: still I think it was it was still a fun movie.
- 47:22Speaker 5: I still enjoyed watching it.
- 47:24Speaker 1: Completely new topic now, guys, Uh, if Space Jam was
- 47:27Speaker 1: made today with city players, which five guys would the
- 47:31Speaker 1: Aliens take the talents from?
- 47:34Speaker 3: Oh, that's a fun way with today's to today's today
- 47:38Speaker 3: players all the time.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Today today the Aliens come down to Earth. They need
- 47:41Speaker 1: to take the talents of five or in the city. Yeah,
- 47:46Speaker 1: and you need they need to make a team, so
- 47:48Speaker 1: you need a goal goaltender, maybe a defender, two mids
- 47:52Speaker 1: and attackers to it. Yeah, I'm gonna go.
- 47:56Speaker 2: It would be one one one one, one to one m.
- 48:03Speaker 8: I think for for one yeah, goie, definitely go man,
- 48:09Speaker 8: he's strong, you know, defender. You know, I might even
- 48:12Speaker 8: go to Stony, maybe a healthy Brammer. Maybe you need
- 48:18Speaker 8: a wing back and there you gotta throw in de Marco.
- 48:20Speaker 8: You got you gotta throw in the Marco.
- 48:23Speaker 4: His talents need to be taken a defenders.
- 48:25Speaker 1: I'm going to defenders.
- 48:28Speaker 5: Yeah, do your.
- 48:29Speaker 1: Own think of it.
- 48:30Speaker 2: Okayay, so you do your own.
- 48:31Speaker 4: You know I'm gonna go.
- 48:32Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'm gonna go. You know, I'm gonna
- 48:34Speaker 1: go with the internet connection back there, bus Tony de
- 48:37Speaker 1: Marco in mid definitely not Locatelli.
- 48:42Speaker 3: Uh yeah yeah, maybe the cheese, but not not.
- 48:47Speaker 1: To Now he's not in city anymore, unfortunately, So I
- 48:53Speaker 1: only have two players left. Then I said five. Damn it,
- 48:55Speaker 1: I'm hand comping, hand coumping myself.
- 48:57Speaker 5: I mean, like, if you're doing like a five a side, Matt, right, Yeah, so.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Wait, if it's five asides, that goalie plus five. Yeah,
- 49:04Speaker 1: it's goalie plus four. Okay, So you know what I'm
- 49:09Speaker 1: just gonna.
- 49:10Speaker 4: Be like one one one two or one two one.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Minna I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
- 49:17Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Burrell in the midfield. I'm just gonna
- 49:20Speaker 1: go all that. Yeah, and then and then Touram, Marcus Turam,
- 49:24Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go with the brother connection.
- 49:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Kefron Turam and Marcus.
- 49:28Speaker 5: I'm going Manyan, I'm going on defense, I'm going Gremer
- 49:32Speaker 5: and Bastoni. Uh In mid I'm gonna be thinking about
- 49:39Speaker 5: probably can we put can we consider Leau and Lookman
- 49:43Speaker 5: as mids? Why not?
- 49:46Speaker 1: You could do whatever you want?
- 49:47Speaker 4: And then how many guys you're taking?
- 49:51Speaker 5: And then and then I think Bada La is the fifth,
- 49:53Speaker 5: like like those are probably like the five that I
- 49:55Speaker 5: would go with.
- 49:56Speaker 4: You know, so we're doing five like with the goalie.
- 49:59Speaker 5: You're saying four plus goalie, four plus goalie.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay.
- 50:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is unanimous decision for the culture guys,
- 50:07Speaker 3: mon Stars, Space Tam Edition, unanimous decision Mania Magic Mike,
- 50:13Speaker 3: uh in defense for myself.
- 50:18Speaker 9: Uh.
- 50:20Speaker 2: I yeah, I got Maybe would be a toss up
- 50:25Speaker 2: between uh m hm.
- 50:28Speaker 5: You could throw in the Lorenzo there just to have
- 50:30Speaker 5: anapoly rep you know what I'm saying, it.
- 50:32Speaker 4: Would be uh, yeah, no I would.
- 50:35Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 50:36Speaker 3: For me, it's tough, like it would be a toss
- 50:38Speaker 3: up between because Stony Tail and.
- 50:42Speaker 4: Bremmer probably uh because maybe even maybe maybe.
- 50:53Speaker 3: But but uh no, okay, I'm gonna stick.
- 50:59Speaker 4: I'll go I'll go Bustonia as well.
- 51:01Speaker 3: Uh for for that, I think he's dynamic defensively, offensively
- 51:05Speaker 3: uh in the mid Uh in the mid I would
- 51:11Speaker 3: take uh Johnny Rainders because hey, he's he's just all
- 51:16Speaker 3: over the place. He's he's he's amazing. He can score,
- 51:19Speaker 3: he can provide a past assist. You can go box
- 51:21Speaker 3: to buck, he doesn't stop running.
- 51:23Speaker 2: Uh and up top? Is that?
- 51:27Speaker 1: Is that?
- 51:27Speaker 6: What?
- 51:27Speaker 2: Did that be enough? Yeah? Then I would to lay
- 51:31Speaker 2: out and uh.
- 51:34Speaker 10: Lataro Martinez because uh because don't forget in the movie, right,
- 51:40Speaker 10: like the five that he takes like to take the
- 51:42Speaker 10: talents from aren't necessarily the absolute best players in the
- 51:47Speaker 10: NBA at the time, but they were like marketable players from.
- 51:51Speaker 5: Like the like like from like five like.
- 51:53Speaker 4: Okay, So you know what I'm saying instead, is that
- 51:56Speaker 4: who I should take.
- 51:58Speaker 5: No, Like, no, No, that's ridiculous. It's not ridiculous. I'm
- 52:04Speaker 5: just saying, like, if we're really gonna like like as much.
- 52:08Speaker 4: As I love, what do you think Bugsy he took, he.
- 52:11Speaker 5: Took, he took Muggsy, he took Barkley, he took Oh
- 52:16Speaker 5: my god, he played for the he played for the Knicks,
- 52:21Speaker 5: Patrick Ewing. Yeah, and then un look this up.
- 52:26Speaker 4: The other guy was Barkley.
- 52:28Speaker 1: It was a tall guy, the wmber.
- 52:31Speaker 5: The all white guy. Nobody remember.
- 52:33Speaker 4: I don't remember his name?
- 52:35Speaker 1: Uh I Patrick? Uh Sean Sean Bradley, Sean Bradley. Ye,
- 52:45Speaker 1: you could have told me. You asked me, who's Sean Bradley,
- 52:48Speaker 1: I'd say hockey player?
- 52:49Speaker 2: Yeah, or just like the guy who does your your
- 52:52Speaker 2: toxes or something.
- 52:53Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh no, listen, I guess I
- 52:55Speaker 3: would go with that. But you know what, maybe instead
- 52:57Speaker 3: of for me actually maybe.
- 52:59Speaker 4: Would be a toss up. Betwe reindeers. And if you're taking,
- 53:02Speaker 4: like you know, taking the talents out of somebody and
- 53:04Speaker 4: like whatever, maybe even throwing in there, you know, in
- 53:08Speaker 4: terms of terms of talent, yeah, that he that he possesses.
- 53:12Speaker 4: Did it ever take him to the level that maybe
- 53:15Speaker 4: he should be. That's up for debate.
- 53:17Speaker 3: But in terms of like raw talent technical with the ball,
- 53:20Speaker 3: you know that the fantasista type of player. Maybe throw
- 53:23Speaker 3: it in there in the in the mix two but
- 53:26Speaker 3: but yeah, kind.
- 53:27Speaker 2: Of would be mine. Yeah, yeah, one stars. Yeah.
- 53:35Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Dolrentis could make this into a movie.
- 53:39Speaker 5: Neil Lorentis could be the guy who plays Donny, the
- 53:42Speaker 5: Beatles character the Vanage.
- 53:44Speaker 4: Of the Yeah, the Big Green Guy.
- 53:47Speaker 1: Yeah no, but then which will need a former player
- 53:52Speaker 1: as Michael Jordan fran Yeah.
- 53:57Speaker 4: Want even the two?
- 54:00Speaker 5: So no, no, the best of all time?
- 54:05Speaker 1: I know, I know, Like just I said that, just
- 54:07Speaker 1: like is an interesting character I love.
- 54:10Speaker 2: But there's a few names you can name there.
- 54:12Speaker 3: Yeah, like don' I.
- 54:16Speaker 5: Mean, yeah, but bad Joe, it is injured, but it's bad.
- 54:20Speaker 4: Room can work. But like, yeah, time Maddona is not there.
- 54:23Speaker 2: Not the best of all time?
- 54:25Speaker 8: If you make it today, we're talking like today about today, Yeah,
- 54:30Speaker 8: I wouldn't be available.
- 54:32Speaker 4: Okay, wouldn't be available, Okay, unfortunately, no.
- 54:34Speaker 1: But I I like, I like the shout to talk
- 54:36Speaker 1: to you, just because he has a personality.
- 54:38Speaker 2: But he's not today. He's not normal.
- 54:40Speaker 1: You need a former player.
- 54:42Speaker 2: There's a former player.
- 54:46Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it it works, okay works, yeah, okay.
- 54:51Speaker 5: And then like in the film environment, you can you
- 54:52Speaker 5: can still have Bad Joe play a bit of soccer
- 54:54Speaker 5: in a film environment right with them.
- 54:56Speaker 3: And who's uh and who's what's his face that comes
- 54:59Speaker 3: in at the end.
- 55:02Speaker 5: Okay, if we're doing Bad Joe, that's gonna be tawtie.
- 55:04Speaker 5: Then yeah, would be like the Bill Murray U.
- 55:09Speaker 4: Bill Murray that he comes in there he wants to play.
- 55:13Speaker 5: And then the guy who's gonna take over Larry Bird's spot.
- 55:16Speaker 5: It's gonna be Del Carrow go to trash talks Tati
- 55:20Speaker 5: at the golf course. Why it's gonna be.
- 55:26Speaker 11: This is the character look at Lly no no, no,
- 55:36Speaker 11: oh man.
- 55:37Speaker 1: Some assistant coach in the city. Do you guys know
- 55:39Speaker 1: any It would.
- 55:41Speaker 5: Probably take uh, either the guys from the goal, one
- 55:45Speaker 5: of the guys from the yachty goal, or.
- 55:48Speaker 4: Or we take uh what the is his name in
- 55:52Speaker 4: the movie too? The newman there. I don't remember, I
- 55:54Speaker 4: forget his name.
- 55:56Speaker 1: My god, I'm on the Wikipedia peage.
- 55:59Speaker 4: Now going going the bio guys. This is really diverting
- 56:02Speaker 4: from a cultural talking.
- 56:03Speaker 5: Probably it has to be a comedic character. We could
- 56:05Speaker 5: probably think we're uh Roberto Bernini, why not.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Stand pull pull pull?
- 56:16Speaker 9: Uh way Night Wayne Knight, that's his name, A man
- 56:22Speaker 9: who would play him to fucking shine badio shoes or
- 56:27Speaker 9: shoes there?
- 56:29Speaker 1: Oh man, you need to take an Italian comedian and
- 56:33Speaker 1: and who would make the song equivalent to I believe
- 56:36Speaker 1: I could fly rock on.
- 56:39Speaker 4: Hunt Clementino Clementina. Wait there you go.
- 56:49Speaker 5: You want your comedic relief character, you get in or
- 56:51Speaker 5: freak done?
- 56:55Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh.
- 56:58Speaker 1: My, this is the most those conversations we've ever had them.
- 57:02Speaker 1: I'm definitely cutting this and it's gonna be its own
- 57:04Speaker 1: YouTube YouTube.
- 57:05Speaker 4: Segments, the whole YouTube video. The culture guys, uh.
- 57:12Speaker 3: Times space Yeah, mon stars, don't sue what We didn't
- 57:17Speaker 3: use the name there, but.
- 57:20Speaker 2: That that was that was that was interesting.
- 57:22Speaker 4: I think we can probably do better if we took
- 57:24Speaker 4: some time to think about it.
- 57:25Speaker 2: But uh yeah, for sure.
- 57:29Speaker 1: But guys, unless there's other things we want to talk about,
- 57:32Speaker 1: I think that'll do it.
- 57:34Speaker 4: I mean I think.
- 57:41Speaker 1: God, johny Derby del Jenny this Weekend Derby del Jenny
- 57:50Speaker 1: Derby and then and then come on, who's uh what.
- 57:57Speaker 3: Else what other matchups are pointing? Like, what were the
- 57:59Speaker 3: other big like Atlanta or Lotso or there's anybody Quarentina, No,
- 58:08Speaker 3: all teams below them.
- 58:09Speaker 4: You know.
- 58:09Speaker 1: Maybe the most interesting is Atlanta Torino. Torino's in the
- 58:13Speaker 1: top ten, you know, but yeah, they saved it for Sunday. Yeah. Wow,
- 58:21Speaker 1: Melan inter at twelve and then Roma Napolio two forty five.
- 58:24Speaker 1: That's interesting.
- 58:25Speaker 2: That's a double edder, yeah, double editor. It's it's not
- 58:29Speaker 2: it's a big it's a it's a it's a big weekend.
- 58:31Speaker 4: And then uh, then Kobe Talia starting I think soon.
- 58:35Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there's more games next week, the fourth and
- 58:38Speaker 1: the fifth.
- 58:40Speaker 2: Romanto is it's coming up.
- 58:43Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Melan Roma in that one, and then Atlanta Bologna.
- 58:47Speaker 1: But then the other set happens at the end of February.
- 58:50Speaker 1: You've Amply again and then enter in Lazio. That's uh,
- 58:55Speaker 1: dates to be decided at the end of February. No, no, sorry,
- 59:02Speaker 1: it's one it's one leg. It's one leg, the quarterfinals,
- 59:04Speaker 1: semi finals. There are two leagues in April.
- 59:06Speaker 5: Oh, I said's whinning You're in there one.
- 59:10Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so that should be interesting.
- 59:12Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
- 59:13Speaker 6: You're right, so yeah, I know it's I think there's
- 59:15Speaker 6: like a lot.
- 59:16Speaker 4: Of cultures to be coming and a lot of exciting
- 59:19Speaker 4: games and and and and games. And we're still we're
- 59:22Speaker 4: still in the market, We're still in the mens. But
- 59:25Speaker 4: unfortunately there's been like not the Mannus that we want.
- 59:29Speaker 2: Uh you know, uh.
- 59:32Speaker 4: You'll be bringing in players for six months and then
- 59:34Speaker 4: stripping them back, so they're gonna help them do what.
- 59:37Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 59:38Speaker 5: Although home one.
- 59:39Speaker 4: He actually yeah right away scoring, so that was that
- 59:44Speaker 4: was interesting. You have to see Kyle Walker in a
- 59:47Speaker 4: Milan shirt.
- 59:48Speaker 5: For that's that's probably like the craziest transfer, Like it
- 59:51Speaker 5: came out of nowhere. I didn't think it would actually
- 59:53Speaker 5: go through, but I saw, I saw that it happen.
- 59:55Speaker 5: I'm like, what kind of sim is this right now
- 59:57Speaker 5: that I'm living in.
- 1:00:00Speaker 12: Yeah, it's signed for free there, you know.
- 1:00:04Speaker 13: I just anyways, I don't know it just for me.
- 1:00:07Speaker 13: I didn't think it would happen. Uh, it's it happened.
- 1:00:10Speaker 13: Taking the number thirty two. I will Beckham for Milan,
- 1:00:14Speaker 13: but where we have to see him. I don't know
- 1:00:16Speaker 13: what he's gonna really bring.
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: Obviously, our right back situation is terrible, so maybe he
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: will bring something that, uh you know that we might
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: need at that right.
- 1:00:26Speaker 6: Back spat.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: Unfortunate.
- 1:00:29Speaker 12: I don't know if they're gonna pull the trigger for
- 1:00:31Speaker 12: Santi Himenez, the Mexican striker for Fire North. Uh they're
- 1:00:36Speaker 12: kind of nickeling and dining there and typical Mewan not
- 1:00:39Speaker 12: gonna get it done in the summer, h the biggest
- 1:00:41Speaker 12: one that again, I know we spoke about it a
- 1:00:42Speaker 12: bit before, but Vita, I didn't think they would actually
- 1:00:45Speaker 12: if that was gonna happen, I didn't think it was
- 1:00:47Speaker 12: gonna happen in the summer.
- 1:00:48Speaker 14: Like really, I don't know where, like you said, Johnny,
- 1:00:50Speaker 14: for him to do that in the summer, sorry, summer
- 1:00:53Speaker 14: in the winter for when you're contending and like you're
- 1:00:58Speaker 14: you're there and fans are getting excited again in the city.
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: Uh of not.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: It's uh it was a bit of a shocker, but uh, yeah,
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: You bringing in another guy too, that Vega guy. I
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: don't know they're bringing in guys for long.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know anything about that.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: That guy Defenderani I knew him, I actually knew who
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: he was yeah, good start against We couldn't play today
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: because he wasn't registered yet so with Champions League.
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: But they can still get registered.
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: Right, Is that is that right? I?
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: I think so, I think, do you submit a new
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: list for the knockout stages?
- 1:01:36Speaker 6: I think, okay, yeah, so there you go. But uh, yeah,
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: I think that's is that it?
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: Guys.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: We we're kind of rusty there first the first episode back,
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: but we were kind of all over the place.
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: But I think we tried to touch a bit of everything.
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: I think that's it.
- 1:01:52Speaker 5: No, Yeah, we got the space jam discussion and so.
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: That's that's where this conversation is gonna beer too.
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: But hey, I say, Mike's be special stuff and we
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: go in on a whole different uphere of conversations.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: So I love it.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: That's it? And uh, where can people follow us on
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- 1:02:13Speaker 4: Yeah, so guys, like we opened the show with, like
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- 1:02:20Speaker 4: I know we were on a bit of hiatus, even
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: some of our close neutrals saying what the fuck no
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- 1:03:22Speaker 6: So again, thank you for again tuning in first episode
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: of twenty twenty five and hopefully many more good ones
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- 1:03:31Speaker 6: talk a lot more culture.
- 1:03:33Speaker 5: Before we go, I just want to say, yeah, today city,
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: not today, this week City set Down announced that they're
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: going to be taking a little bit of a break,
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: a bit of a hiatus, I guess, so to speak,
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: because life it's ben busy for them. Big shout out
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: to Frank and Richard for amazing, amazing stuff for Citi
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: at coverage. Even though there are two Milan EASTI they
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: had great neutral coverage throughout the entire league and offered
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: some great inputs on teams that didn't get as much
- 1:04:01Speaker 5: attention as they as they should be and something that
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: we try to do here. We try to like give
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: like a bit of a global perspective on City even
- 1:04:09Speaker 5: though we like to talk about our favorite teams, you know,
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: every once in a while we'll bring some of the
- 1:04:13Speaker 5: other non so popular teams into the mix of discussions.
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: So enjoy your break, guys. I'm saying break in a
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: cheeky way because I feel like eventually they're going to
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: be missing it so much that they're gonna probably come
- 1:04:24Speaker 5: back at some point, so or maybe even just do
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: like a little small like sporadic episodes here and there.
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: But nonetheless, great job for you guys. But I think
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: they hit like something like three hundred and something episodes
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: like they have done in their lifetime. So that's really good.
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: A lot of podcasts usually die after ten to fifteen episodes,
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: so in fact they made it that far is commended
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: as something to be commended about. And hope you guys
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: enjoy your little time off.
- 1:04:50Speaker 6: Yeah, man, the goats Man the Ghats again.
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: I didn't think.
- 1:04:53Speaker 6: I didn't realize we're going to throw that in here,
- 1:04:55Speaker 6: but I guess.
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: Before we part again, I want to add to that
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: again the Absolute Goats.
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: Uh, you know, been doing a long time. Uh you
- 1:05:03Speaker 6: know you kind of you kind of hold these uh,
- 1:05:06Speaker 6: these these content creators in a high regard.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: Uh you know, you know, being able to do a
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: live show back in the days of c J O
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: O back in the back in the studio, the radio
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: station that we were part of, with Richard meeting them
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: face to face, doing it a live show, him jumping
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: on again. We'll never forget those times. And you know,
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: even the times that they run our show as guests. Again, guys,
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: I know they're not going anywhere maybe forever, I hope not.
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: We're going to be selfish and say we want them
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: to come back. But if it is a highest that
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: they needed, if it is a bit of a break
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: that they need.
- 1:05:40Speaker 6: Uh you know, that's that's okay with us as well.
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: And uh again, uh, nothing.
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: But the best to to to them whatever it is
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: that it is that's going on. Again, We're always here supporting,
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: uh you Uh and a big hug.
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: One other last thing I want to say.
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: I know Nick maybe wants to throw in a couple
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: of words for for them boys.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Hey, just you know specifically we've had them both on
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: both great guys, So you know, shout out to what
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: they do. And I understand too, they're you know, they
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: both have their families and and that uh it's it's
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: a lot of time and commitment to do high quality
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: work that they've done. And just you know, shout out
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: to Richard specifically because that that For for me, that
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: was one of my favorite memories doing the show in
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: person with you guys. I was that was so cool.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: The guy came down from from the Washington area. He
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: was in Montreal. It's not like he came just to this.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: He was in Montreal and you know he got to
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: meet his wife and his son.
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: You know, remember I remember taking him to NDG hot
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: Dog for for nice hot dog hot dogs. You know
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: he came to the studio. That was fun. That was fun.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, shout out to them. Hopefully they'll
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: be back soon.
- 1:06:47Speaker 6: Yeah, we're selfish. We want them back guys.
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: So guys, if you're listening to this, uh, we want
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: you back as fast as you can.
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: But again we we love and appreciate what you've done.
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: Uh. Quick thing, Uh, you know, favor of the show,
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: not his retirement. I just to throw that in there.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: I just had to throw that in there. He announced
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: his retirement from from the Game of Culture yesterday. Uh,
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: just a favor on the show, his celebration. Uh just
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: uh a true a true legend I guess from you know,
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: from from the South, and uh, just one of those
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: players I really grinded his way through through the through
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: the maze of culture and the journey and all that
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: true Southerner.
- 1:07:34Speaker 6: Uh and yeah, just a legend for us on the show.
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: If again, if you know, you know, if you've been
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: still sticking on with us a long time, you know
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: what we're talking about.
- 1:07:43Speaker 6: And we hold him in a high regard here on
- 1:07:44Speaker 6: the show.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: And uh again, last last, last thing, and again I
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: don't want to throw in you know, personal things but
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: we love you, uh to our boy a listener been
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: on the show, Nando uh recently and again he's maybe
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: he kills me for this.
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: I don't want to put your business out there, but
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it because I love you and we
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: love you officially.
- 1:08:04Speaker 6: Uh, you know announced he's now what.
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: Is he doing?
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Guys? What's he doing?
- 1:08:11Speaker 5: He's not official just yet, he's no, but he popped
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: the question I started in the chart.
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: He now has a fiance, So it's a it's a
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: it's a big clap from us on the Culture Guysnando,
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna listen to this, but.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: We love you.
- 1:08:24Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: It's kind of smooth man, but the Ring slipped it
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: in announced in our chat. You know, fiance now as
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: a fiance, so again we wish nothing but the best.
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:08:37Speaker 6: And it's all love from the Culture guys.
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: Someone's laundry machine.
- 1:08:43Speaker 6: Was going out, but that's mine again is fucking.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: But I think by the time this episode will come out,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: he will have a fiance. That's mine.
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: Popped the question the track at the ring.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: Track the trot now okay and then I'm like, oh, okay,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: I didn't have my phone near me.
- 1:09:03Speaker 6: Guys, don't don't make me look stupid.
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: Now, come on, check the chat.
- 1:09:07Speaker 6: Check the chat new fiances on board?
- 1:09:11Speaker 5: Is she okay, let's go Okay, I think you said that.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Guys, it's public.
- 1:09:16Speaker 6: He said, yes, okay, don't do me like that.
- 1:09:18Speaker 5: She said, yes, what buddy, I'm sorry, I just said
- 1:09:23Speaker 5: you I did have my photo.
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: Guys, try to do me dirty.
- 1:09:25Speaker 6: I saw the chat right here.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: I saw it.
- 1:09:28Speaker 5: We love I try to do you dirty.
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: We love you. But but guys, now, I think we
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: can put a bowl on this episode.
- 1:09:38Speaker 6: Uh, just like our buddy Nando put a ring on
- 1:09:41Speaker 6: that finger.
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: Uh, we're gonna I think I think now we can
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: officially after all the commentaries at the end, I think
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: we cannot put a ball on the episode. Then uh, yeah,
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: guys again, follow, subscribe all that good stuff like we've mentioned,
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: and uh, we'll be back next week on a whole
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: other episode of the culture.
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: Guys, thanks for listening.
- 1:10:01Speaker 5: Chop Maney