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- 0:08Speaker 1: From The Australian. This is the weekend edition of The Front.
- 0:11Speaker 1: I'm Claire Harvey. All wars come with casualties, and of
- 0:16Speaker 1: course the most confronting a human But today we're looking
- 0:20Speaker 1: at a potentially different casualty of the war raging in
- 0:23Speaker 1: the Middle East. Some of the world's most prized works
- 0:27Speaker 1: of art Picasso's van Goh's Gogans now sheltered away in
- 0:32Speaker 1: secret locations and underground bomb proof vaults. Plus what happens
- 0:37Speaker 1: to the artists trying to live today in the midst
- 0:41Speaker 1: of conflict and oppression. Joining me today is Tim Douglas,
- 0:45Speaker 1: chief Culture correspondent for The Australian.
- 0:53Speaker 2: The year is nineteen forty seven. A group of teenage
- 0:56Speaker 2: Bedouin shepherds discover jars in a cave by the Dead Sea.
- 0:59Speaker 2: They find seven scrolls.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Tim, you've been reporting on an aspect of the conflict
- 1:04Speaker 1: in the Middle East that I don't think many of
- 1:05Speaker 1: us had thought about. What really stuck out for me
- 1:08Speaker 1: is a mention in a headline of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
- 1:11Speaker 2: These scrolls, the first of the Dead Sea Scrolls, weren't
- 1:15Speaker 2: initially seen as valuable, but soon scientists and scholars recognized
- 1:19Speaker 2: their significant worth.
- 1:21Speaker 1: This is the most magical I suppose cultural artifact. I
- 1:25Speaker 1: can think of these ancient Jewish texts that have been
- 1:30Speaker 1: in climate controlled conditions in a museum in Jerusalem for
- 1:33Speaker 1: the past few decades. What's happening to the Dead Sea scrolls?
- 1:38Speaker 3: So on February twenty eight, when missiles began falling across
- 1:41Speaker 3: the Middle East for the fourth time since the October
- 1:44Speaker 3: seventh attacks, curators across the Middle East, and in Israel
- 1:48Speaker 3: in particular, rush to the Israel Museum to secure these
- 1:54Speaker 3: very important documents, nine hundred of them in total, most
- 1:58Speaker 3: of them housed in that museum, and the most important
- 2:00Speaker 3: of them is the Isaiah Scroll. Perhaps not the most important,
- 2:03Speaker 3: but certainly the most well known. It's a seven meter
- 2:06Speaker 3: long scroll that had just been put on exhibition, and
- 2:09Speaker 3: the curators were forced to secure that very quickly as
- 2:13Speaker 3: air sirens sounded around the city, as I understand, and
- 2:16Speaker 3: moved to a secure location.
- 2:20Speaker 1: The idea of a war breaking out is kind of
- 2:22Speaker 1: a curator's worst n i'ma, isn't.
- 2:24Speaker 3: It Yeah, And especially when there are artifacts in those
- 2:27Speaker 3: collections that date back millennia, they are irreplaceable and people
- 2:32Speaker 3: have every right to be worried about them.
- 2:34Speaker 1: What about the rest of the Middle East? Of course,
- 2:36Speaker 1: bombs and missiles are falling very heavily on Iran.
- 2:39Speaker 3: What's happening there in Tehran is the UNESCO Heritage listed
- 2:44Speaker 3: Galliston Pallace, one of one hundred and twenty sites in
- 2:48Speaker 3: Iran protected by the Blue Shield, which was instituted in
- 2:52Speaker 3: the nineteen fifty four Hague Convention for historical locations that
- 2:58Speaker 3: require protection during wartime. This palace is very dear to
- 3:03Speaker 3: the Iranian people.
- 3:05Speaker 4: This palace has now reportedly sustained damage after a strike nearby.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Reports also suggesting that the palace's windows, doors and mirrors
- 3:14Speaker 4: were hit by reverberations from the blasts that occurred nearby.
- 3:18Speaker 3: So this is its famous hall of mirrors was smashed
- 3:21Speaker 3: and some of its famous mosaics also were smashed. But
- 3:24Speaker 3: it's just one of many sites in Iran at the
- 3:27Speaker 3: moment that are underfired. The governor of one of the
- 3:30Speaker 3: particular cities that was hit a historic city, accused Israel
- 3:35Speaker 3: and America of declaring war on cultural heritage.
- 3:42Speaker 5: The news spread with the speed of the human shou
- 3:45Speaker 5: Shah Ferrarisha day. The people cried the Shah has escaped.
- 3:50Speaker 5: The only chance of death to the Shah was replaced
- 3:52Speaker 5: today by a new one, death to Carter. There is
- 3:56Speaker 5: still a strong sentiment against American interest in Iran.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And the white Before the Iranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine,
- 4:03Speaker 1: Tehran was a center of learning and feminism and all
- 4:07Speaker 1: sorts of things, although it be Shah's regime was very oppressive.
- 4:11Speaker 1: What's been the situation with art in Iran since the revolution?
- 4:17Speaker 3: I spoke to an artist in Sydney, Nassim Mesa about
- 4:22Speaker 3: this art, as she told me, is something very dear
- 4:24Speaker 3: to the Iranian people that have a culture of art
- 4:27Speaker 3: that stretches back two and a half thousand years. Clearly,
- 4:30Speaker 3: there are concerns about freedom of speech in that country,
- 4:34Speaker 3: which has led people seem to flee to Australia, where
- 4:38Speaker 3: she now has a flourishing art practice. But there are
- 4:41Speaker 3: still artists on the ground making work. Whether those artists
- 4:44Speaker 3: are making radical work that confronts the oppressive theocracy that
- 4:50Speaker 3: prevails in that country is another matter. But certainly there
- 4:53Speaker 3: is a deep connection to art. And of course one
- 4:56Speaker 3: of the most interesting aspects of Iran is that it
- 4:59Speaker 3: houses one of the world's most incredible and internationally lauded
- 5:04Speaker 3: art collections at the Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art.
- 5:07Speaker 1: It's not something I would have expected.
- 5:09Speaker 3: It's not something you would have expected.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Where's it all come from?
- 5:12Speaker 3: During the nineteen seventies, the Shah's wife for Polavi embarked
- 5:18Speaker 3: on a collecting spree. Perhaps she and married in nineteen
- 5:25Speaker 3: fifty nine. Her main role was to provide an heir
- 5:28Speaker 3: to the regime. She did that within a year of
- 5:31Speaker 3: marrying the Shah, and then she embarked on a really
- 5:35Speaker 3: interesting period of development in a raad. She focused on education.
- 5:39Speaker 3: She helped found the p Lavi University. She also embarked
- 5:45Speaker 3: on collecting contemporary artworks during the seventies. During that time,
- 5:50Speaker 3: there was a depressed market in the art industry, and
- 5:54Speaker 3: she took advantage of that around the same time that
- 5:56Speaker 3: gofflm in this country did and looked to find some
- 6:00Speaker 3: defining works for that collection. She bought Van Goff's Gogans,
- 6:06Speaker 3: a huge collection of Picasso's, Donald Judd's andy Warhols. In fact,
- 6:10Speaker 3: there's a famous Andy Warhole painting of her, and there's
- 6:13Speaker 3: one of her husbands too. This collection, four thousand pieces strong,
- 6:17Speaker 3: it's worth three billion dollars and it has for the
- 6:21Speaker 3: last forty seven years been stored away in a secret
- 6:25Speaker 3: vault we understand beneath the building.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the sort of thing that the Mullers
- 6:29Speaker 1: would be spending their weekends looking at, is it.
- 6:30Speaker 3: It's not. Although last year they had a Caso exhibition.
- 6:34Speaker 3: They pulled out sixty six pocassos from the vault and
- 6:37Speaker 3: then put that on display. That was still being advertised
- 6:39Speaker 3: on its website last week. The website is now shut down.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Coming up. The most valuable artwork in the world is
- 6:54Speaker 1: in the Middle East, But where is it? One of
- 7:10Speaker 1: the differences with this round of conflict between Iran and
- 7:13Speaker 1: Israel and the United States is that the Golf States
- 7:16Speaker 1: have been drawn in those monarchies on the Persian Gulf
- 7:19Speaker 1: coasts that are now being attacked by Iran because they
- 7:21Speaker 1: host United States military assets. That's caused absolute fury among
- 7:26Speaker 1: those states from Jordan to Qatar, although they haven't yet
- 7:29Speaker 1: retaliated in any kind of military sense. What else is
- 7:32Speaker 1: at risk on the Golf peninsula.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Iran was ahead of the curve in terms of their collecting,
- 7:39Speaker 3: but since the seventies and eighties. Most of those golf
- 7:41Speaker 3: states have been cognizant of the fact that natural resources
- 7:45Speaker 3: on those emirates and in that region are finite, and
- 7:48Speaker 3: they've been looking to diversify their interests. Now most of
- 7:52Speaker 3: them over the last thirty years have looked to art.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Shajah was one of the first. Qatar actually had the
- 7:59Speaker 3: first museum, and since that time Abu Dhabi, Jubai, Bahrain
- 8:04Speaker 3: and Saudi Arabia have all got in on the act.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Those countries also have announced their intention to become art
- 8:14Speaker 3: market hubs, basically a real opportunity there for their GDPs
- 8:17Speaker 3: their bottom lines as an art hub. Saudi Arabia has
- 8:20Speaker 3: announced a multi billion dollar plan to basically become the
- 8:25Speaker 3: world's biggest art hub by twenty thirty. Art fairs have
- 8:29Speaker 3: begun to proliferate in the Middle East over the last
- 8:31Speaker 3: twenty years. It's held some of the world's biggest art fairs,
- 8:34Speaker 3: and this year in particular, two of the most high
- 8:37Speaker 3: profile art fairs in the world announced the moving into
- 8:40Speaker 3: that region too well.
- 8:42Speaker 1: We announced yesterday the launch of Art Basil Qatar for us,
- 8:46Speaker 1: for our local partners, but also for the international art world.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Extraordinarily momentous news, I'd say our audience.
- 8:53Speaker 5: Now.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Why that's interesting is because it signals a great shift
- 8:58Speaker 3: in the art market, whose traditional home has been the US.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Now those art markets are finding a home and finding
- 9:07Speaker 3: buyers very lucrative prices. In fact, for the international art
- 9:11Speaker 3: market in the Middle East.
- 9:13Speaker 1: It's all part of the kind of modernization and dare
- 9:16Speaker 1: I say westernization of those Gulf states. You know, they
- 9:18Speaker 1: are moving away from the very strict religious observance that
- 9:23Speaker 1: Iran has been famous for. There's much less overt control,
- 9:28Speaker 1: theological control of people. Do you think they've been accepted
- 9:32Speaker 1: by the kind of contemporary art makers, for example, who
- 9:36Speaker 1: here in Australia are at the center of controversies about
- 9:40Speaker 1: whether they're including Jewish artists in programs here.
- 9:43Speaker 3: It's a really interesting question. I'm not sure it keeps
- 9:46Speaker 3: many people in that world awake at night. I think
- 9:50Speaker 3: it's about money, money talks, and I think the most
- 9:53Speaker 3: interesting aspect of all that is Saudi Arabia. Last year
- 9:57Speaker 3: they had a huge art fair and rider and that
- 9:59Speaker 3: comes also after the Crown Prince bought the world's most
- 10:03Speaker 3: expensive painting in the Salvador Monday, which has bought four
- 10:06Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars a couple of years ago
- 10:08Speaker 3: and which has not been seen publicly since. So I
- 10:11Speaker 3: think that idea says it all really about what they
- 10:16Speaker 3: think about art. The world's most expensive painting has been
- 10:19Speaker 3: bought and no one's seen it since.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Well, there's a trope that great art comes from suffering.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So I mean this conflict will produce creative works, won't
- 10:27Speaker 1: it if people can stay safe. We'll see the legacy
- 10:30Speaker 1: of this incoming years.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I hope that there is something that we can look
- 10:34Speaker 3: back at in forty to fifty years time and think, well,
- 10:38Speaker 3: at least we preserve this out of the madness, there
- 10:41Speaker 3: is hope in that ironic collection to which the regime
- 10:45Speaker 3: in Iran is ideologically opposed that I think there's hope
- 10:48Speaker 3: that something good or something fulsome might come out of this.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Tim, thank you very much, Thanks Claire. Tim Douglas is
- 11:02Speaker 1: The Australian's Chief Culture correspondent. This episode of the Front
- 11:05Speaker 1: was hosted by me Claire Harvey and co produced with
- 11:08Speaker 1: Jasper League. Thanks for joining us on the Front this week.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Our team also includes Kristen Amiot, Leats Hammerglue, Tiffany Dimack
- 11:15Speaker 1: and Joshua Burton,