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5-6 H2: Luke Easterling Joins, Reading Your Texts & Cross Talk · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: We started the show, I'm going to just ask you
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  Speaker 1: this because we'll join the conversation. You can join the
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  Speaker 1: conversation we had, Luke. We started to show with some
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  Speaker 1: of the news out of Kansas City that the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: are saying that Patrick Mahomes's return from Aco his injury
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  Speaker 1: in December, that he will probably be on the field
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  Speaker 1: for OTAs, which would suggest that he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the field for Week one. Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: means the chief Seahawks is going to kick off the
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  Speaker 1: NFL season if the league knows that Mahomes is going
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  Speaker 1: to be on the field for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it it definitely makes it a compelling,
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  Speaker 2: compelling candidate for that slot, right I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they would have to have some pretty significant assurances that
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  Speaker 2: that would be the case, though, Yeah. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think from the Chiefs side of things, you can say
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  Speaker 2: that all you want, and you want to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: create an encouraging storyline throughout the off season and optimism
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  Speaker 2: for your fan base. But you know, I think the
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  Speaker 2: doctors are going to have the final say, as they
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  Speaker 2: always should on that, and so I think I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be a risky move for the league in
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  Speaker 2: may to make a plan based on that slot that
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  Speaker 2: would be dependent on him being ready. I think it
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  Speaker 2: definitely could be on their minds, but that's a gamble
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  Speaker 2: I think at this point in the process.
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  Speaker 1: So you'd more on the side of maybe the Bears
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  Speaker 1: or the Cowboys or.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, something where it's just you're not hinging that on
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the quarterback who's coming off a season
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  Speaker 2: ending knee injury, a late season knee injury at that
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  Speaker 2: would be the most important aspect of why you have
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  Speaker 2: that in that slot for that for at least one
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  Speaker 2: of those teams, I think that's risky business there.
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  Speaker 1: Lugie Sering Afron Swarts joining us on the Beacon Plumbing hotline.
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  Speaker 1: You've written about what you perceive going into the draft,
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  Speaker 1: and most people agreed the lack of running back depth
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  Speaker 1: in this draft, and now it just fell off a
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  Speaker 1: cliff after the top two guys. Yet the Seahawks chose
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  Speaker 1: a running back in the first round, the Cardinals chose
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  Speaker 1: one at three overall. What'd you make of those two picks,
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  Speaker 1: in particular the Cardinals with Jeremiah Love and then the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks Jedarian Price in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part of the they went so high,
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  Speaker 2: it's because those were the good ones. Like if you
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  Speaker 2: ask around the league, to drop off between those two
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame guys and pretty much everybody else in this
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  Speaker 2: running back class, it was it was significant. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that speaks to you know, Love is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a different case because regardless of position, I
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  Speaker 2: think you could make the case that he was the
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  Speaker 2: best overall player in this entire draft. I had him
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  Speaker 2: at number two behind Caleb Downs in terms of just
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  Speaker 2: the prospects that they are. You know, he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be interesting because Arizona, you know, you can make the
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  Speaker 2: argument that they need a lot more than a running back,
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  Speaker 2: and they know that. But honestly, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: recent history, and I've got something in the magazine about
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  Speaker 2: this is basically everybody wants to say that the league
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  Speaker 2: devalues the position. I think we have to understand that
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  Speaker 2: there's just different values placed on different types of prospects.
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  Speaker 2: And so I've said this many times before, but if
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  Speaker 2: you want a decent running back, a productive running back,
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  Speaker 2: you can find that guy in the third or fourth round.
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  Speaker 2: But you might also find, you know, draft the guy
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  Speaker 2: assuming he can just be productive and he ends up
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  Speaker 2: doing nothing. Go ask the San Francisco forty nine ers
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  Speaker 2: how much they've done that over the last ten years,
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  Speaker 2: taking random running backs in the third or fourth round,
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  Speaker 2: and they never do anything as opposed to taking a guy.
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  Speaker 2: If you look back at the last ten years, if
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  Speaker 2: you look at every running back drafted in the top twelve,
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe Leonard Fournette is maybe the only one
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  Speaker 2: where you feel like that guy didn't live up to
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  Speaker 2: his draft slot, and even then, like he had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of really good years in Jacksonville. He has a
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  Speaker 2: really key component in the playoff run to help the
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  Speaker 2: Bucks win a Super Bowl back in twenty twenty. But
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  Speaker 2: if you look at every other running back that's taken
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  Speaker 2: in that range, I mean, it's Saquon, it's Zeke, it's McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 2: it's Bjon Robinson, it's Tamir Gibbs. Like all of those
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  Speaker 2: guys have hit. And so you can have the conversation
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  Speaker 2: about whether or not that's smart team building, but you
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  Speaker 2: can't really argue with the fact that the recent history
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  Speaker 2: tells us that those guys that are drafted to be
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  Speaker 2: superstars end up being superstars. And so that's why I
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  Speaker 2: think Love ended up going number three. Price, I think again,
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  Speaker 2: he's a first round pick who never started a game
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  Speaker 2: in college, and that's hilarious as a stat But if
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  Speaker 2: you look at just isolate him as a player. You
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  Speaker 2: can even listen to Jeremiah Love isolate him as a player.
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  Speaker 2: He did an interview with Doug Farar for athlon sports
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  Speaker 2: dot Com where he gave his own scouting report of
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  Speaker 2: Jediium Price and was basically like, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: he didn't leave, Like he could have gone and started
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  Speaker 2: for pretty much everybody else, but he wanted to stay here.
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  Speaker 2: I think Seahawks fans are going to be really, really
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  Speaker 2: happy what he brings to that backfield, especially with you know,
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  Speaker 2: Walker gone and Sharbonay coming off the knee injury. Jadarion
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  Speaker 2: Price is going to surprise a lot of people because
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  Speaker 2: I think they tab him as a backup and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to find out real quick that he was worthy
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  Speaker 2: of that pick.
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  Speaker 1: Price told us that HEAs he didn't leave as he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be challenged by BnB with competing against the
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  Speaker 1: best running back in the league in the nation. One
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  Speaker 1: of the reason this is Luke He's doing Athlon Sports
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  Speaker 1: joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline on ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM Luke.
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  Speaker 3: I read your article that on six teams that crushed
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  Speaker 3: the Twins twenty six NFL Draft, and the Seahawks didn't
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  Speaker 3: make the cut. So I'd like to ask what, looking
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  Speaker 3: at the teams like the Ravens and the Buccaneers loading
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  Speaker 3: up on premium positions, where do you think the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: came up a little short? Was it pass rush, O
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  Speaker 3: line or flat out playmakers?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think I think honestly in terms of that list,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're the Seahawks were playing with with uh less
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  Speaker 2: uh less capital, right. I mean that that's really the
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  Speaker 2: only thing that that bogs them down in terms when
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  Speaker 2: you only have three picks in the top one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and you know what three you know, first, second, and
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  Speaker 2: third round is what they ended up with. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: pick again until the fifth You know that that's tough
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  Speaker 2: to fill every need you have. I thought they really
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  Speaker 2: did did great in terms of value in terms of
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  Speaker 2: getting their needs. A dress, when you wait till the
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  Speaker 2: fifth round and you can still get an Iowa offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 2: I really don't care who you are if you played
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  Speaker 2: offensive line at Iowa and I draft you in the
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  Speaker 2: fifth round. I'm probably gonna be happy with that, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they will be happy with both Stevens. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's a fantastic player and I like the value there.
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  Speaker 2: But those first three picks for Seattle, I love the
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  Speaker 2: players and I love the fifth. Bud Clark in the
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  Speaker 2: second round. Is that pure center fielding safety that's just
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  Speaker 2: gonna drop back, single high and take the ball away.
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  Speaker 2: Go look at what Caylem Bullock has done in Houston
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  Speaker 2: the last year or two. Everybody knocked him for being,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of a one trick pony of a safety, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you can only cover he doesn't really play the run.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, well, then I'll put you in my scheme
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  Speaker 2: and make sure you are in position to do what
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  Speaker 2: you do best, and I don't ask you to come
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  Speaker 2: down in the box very often. I think if Bud
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  Speaker 2: Clark ends up in a role like that, I think
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be really really happy with the playmaking
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  Speaker 2: that he brings to the table. And then Julian Neil,
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  Speaker 2: I just you know, the quint essential Seahawks proto type
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  Speaker 2: of a corner. But I think he's got safety potential
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  Speaker 2: as well. So when you talk about the way Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald wants to be multiple on that side of the
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  Speaker 2: field and use guys that can it just allows you
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  Speaker 2: to disguise so much when you don't know whether he's
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  Speaker 2: staying up or dropping, or whether he's going to go
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  Speaker 2: single high. You can do so many things pre im
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  Speaker 2: post snap when you have guys like Julian Neal on
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  Speaker 2: the field because of the size, the athleticism, the versatility
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  Speaker 2: he brings. So again, you know, all four of those
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  Speaker 2: late round picks are kind of you know, lottery picks,
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  Speaker 2: and if any of them, you know, hit, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But I really like what they did with those first
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  Speaker 2: four selections. It's just a matter of the teams that
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  Speaker 2: made that lift. If you look at all of them,
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  Speaker 2: it's teams that had a ton of picks, teams that
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  Speaker 2: had a ton of early picks, and I thought did
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  Speaker 2: really well with them in terms of matching value, in
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  Speaker 2: terms of where I had those guys' rank. And then
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  Speaker 2: with a team like the Bucks, where it's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior falls into your laugh at fifteen when
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  Speaker 2: he's the number four player on my board and the
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  Speaker 2: Bucks confirmed he with a top five player on their
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  Speaker 2: board after the draft. So it's less about what the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks did with their picks and more of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they just didn't have as much to work with
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  Speaker 2: as a lot of those other teams that I thought
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  Speaker 2: did really well. But I think the players they did
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  Speaker 2: draft are going to fit well, They're going to get
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  Speaker 2: good value, and I think Seahawks fans are going to
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  Speaker 2: be happy with this class.
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  Speaker 1: Luke Luke. A lot of talk down in the Bay
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  Speaker 1: Area about the forty nine ers going totally against consensus
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  Speaker 1: draft boards. They draft down twice, they get out of
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  Speaker 1: the first round completely. They take Stribbling, the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: from old mess that some people thought was a second
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  Speaker 1: day pick, third day, third fourth round. Guy, it's make
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  Speaker 1: them at the top of the second round. I thought
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  Speaker 1: you had a really good explanation online about consensus boards
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  Speaker 1: versus team boards and what actually teams. Can you explain
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  Speaker 1: what the difference is because people, I think they do
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  Speaker 1: misunderstand consensus boards at the NFL draft.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and if you refer to what I said on Twitter,
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  Speaker 2: like it's similar to what people say about mock drafts, right,
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  Speaker 2: they get mad at me for writing mock drafts in
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  Speaker 2: September and October, and they're like, these don't matter. What
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  Speaker 2: are you doing? And like, if you judge an elephant
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  Speaker 2: by its ability to climb a tree, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be disappointed. Like if you're if you're looking at something
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  Speaker 2: and trying to judge it by a purpose, it's not
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  Speaker 2: trying to hit, it's not trying to accomplish. Obviously you're
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  Speaker 2: going to say it's not working. But that's not what
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  Speaker 2: mock drafts are for. Mock drafts, especially early on, are
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  Speaker 2: about educating the readers, the viewers on here are the
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  Speaker 2: top players, here, what teams need. Here's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: different scenarios that could happen, so that when you actually
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  Speaker 2: get to the draft, you've seen every different permutation and
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  Speaker 2: can understand how the board could fall. And now you
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  Speaker 2: have an idea of you know, eighty different scenarios. There
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  Speaker 2: are a bunch of different players that your team could
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  Speaker 2: end up with in an explanation for why any of
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  Speaker 2: those would make sense. That's the value of a mock draft.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get any pick right until the
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  Speaker 2: day of the draft. That's the only mock draft I
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  Speaker 2: actually try to do. So with the consensus board. It's
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  Speaker 2: very similar where you know, thirty two teams have thirty
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  Speaker 2: two different ways of stacking a board that are based
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  Speaker 2: on a ton of team specific variables based on scheme
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  Speaker 2: and the types of players and certain measurable thresholds in
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  Speaker 2: terms of their size or or forty times or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: When we do our thing in the media, we're not
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  Speaker 2: a team. We don't do those things like we don't
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  Speaker 2: have a scheme. We're just trying to tell readers and viewers, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we watched the film, this is what this player can do.
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  Speaker 2: This is where he struggles right now, this is where
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  Speaker 2: he needs to grow. These are the types of schemes
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  Speaker 2: that they may fit into. But when you talk about
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  Speaker 2: a consensus board, that at some point means this is
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  Speaker 2: the general opinion of the media, even though I hate that,
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  Speaker 2: like monolithic moniker, it's basically you're trying to it's still
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty people's opinions into an average board
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  Speaker 2: to try to have an understanding of how the media
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  Speaker 2: value as a player. That is not going to equate
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  Speaker 2: app it's apples to oranges to what the teams are doing.
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  Speaker 2: It's a completely different exercise. And so what I will
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  Speaker 2: say is this though. The reason I think they're still
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  Speaker 2: valuable in comparing what teams do and the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: ers are a great example, is you can go back
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  Speaker 2: and look at the last ten years of what the
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  Speaker 2: consensus board would have said about some of their worst
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  Speaker 2: picks and say that we were right. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's where the interesting conversation is, is that look at
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  Speaker 2: the teams that continue to go kind of the furthest
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  Speaker 2: away from the consensus, and we have enough data now
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  Speaker 2: to look back and say, hey, you probably would have
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  Speaker 2: been better off listening to those guys than doing what
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  Speaker 2: you thought was best. And again, you know, it's all hindsight,
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  Speaker 2: and that's part of what makes this fun. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what people miss is that teams are trying
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  Speaker 2: to do something different than what media is doing. But
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  Speaker 2: it is fun to look at if they would have
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  Speaker 2: gone a different route, how much successful more successful might
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  Speaker 2: they have been?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly Like the Seahawks was competitiveness. That was their number
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  Speaker 1: one thing on their draft board this year. Guys, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we don't.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a we don't have a and again
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  Speaker 2: we don't have medicals like we don't have team doctors
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  Speaker 2: and like that. There's so many different things. It's a
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  Speaker 2: different exercise, and again we have to remember it all
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  Speaker 2: comes back to the stakes are different. We're we are
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  Speaker 2: trying to inform and entertain an audience and cultivate a
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  Speaker 2: knowledge of the sport. Everybody else trying to win games. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: everybody else trying trying to fit to scheme. They're trying
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  Speaker 2: to get on the field. They're trying to win games,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a very very different mission.
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  Speaker 3: Luke, how much of Seahawks taking JD. Price in the
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  Speaker 3: first round do you think was about replacing K nine
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  Speaker 3: production immediately versus shifting the identity of the offense potentially
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  Speaker 3: long term?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I think it's about stabilizing a
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  Speaker 2: part of their offense that's.
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  Speaker 4: Critical, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think that if again you look at the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the back, but it's not just K nine, it's
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you don't know how soon Zach's going
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  Speaker 2: to be back at full strength. And I think he's
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  Speaker 2: he's such a perfect RB two, Like he's such a
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  Speaker 2: perfect change of pace guy to especially a guy like
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  Speaker 2: Price who's super explosive and the big play guy, and
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  Speaker 2: to have Zach as kind of that floor that brings
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  Speaker 2: you the power that can you know, eat up you know,
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  Speaker 2: the dirty yards, especially late in the game, and keep
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  Speaker 2: everybody fresh. But with price you just you're able to
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  Speaker 2: bring big playability and keep offenses or keep defenses honest
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  Speaker 2: and keep the play action game you strong. And it's
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  Speaker 2: so important to Sam success as a passer then, so
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  Speaker 2: I think it's about stabilizing the floor. But I also
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  Speaker 2: think they're one of the few teams that I think
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  Speaker 2: could take that luxury at the end the first round.
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  Speaker 2: Is if you look around at the other needs, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're confident enough in their schematic strength to
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  Speaker 2: maximize the talent that's already on the rosters where they
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  Speaker 2: felt comfortable saying, hey, this is the last running back
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  Speaker 2: on the board before a big drop, and it's one
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  Speaker 2: of our bigger needs. We can fill that and not
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  Speaker 2: pass up you know, other needs because there really aren't
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  Speaker 2: many that are glaring. I think it's it was a
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  Speaker 2: match of need and value that you can only really
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  Speaker 2: put together if you're a defending champion without a lot
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  Speaker 2: of other things to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: Was there anything Luke that you saw at the top
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  Speaker 1: of the draft that made you go, what what what
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  Speaker 1: was that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the easy one is the Rams, right, I
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  Speaker 2: just I feel like we've beaten this drum the whole,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the last two weeks. But it's just you know,
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  Speaker 2: to a team. And again, I'm from Tampa. I saw
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  Speaker 2: the Bucks make this mistake in twenty twenty one when
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  Speaker 2: they came off their Super Bowl victory. They spent a
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  Speaker 2: second round pick on Kyle Trast, quarterback out of Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Every fan was like, what are you guys doing. We're
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  Speaker 2: trying to win another Super Bowl. You literally brought the
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  Speaker 2: entire starting roster back to try to run it back,
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  Speaker 2: and you spend a second round pick on a guy
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  Speaker 2: that you literally hope does not play this year. Right,
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  Speaker 2: it's a bad thing if he touches the field. And
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  Speaker 2: so for a team that went thirteen and four, that
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  Speaker 2: Bucks team in twenty twenty one went thirteen and four
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  Speaker 2: and got to the playoffs, and because they were you know,
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  Speaker 2: missing guys on the offensive line, missing guys in the
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  Speaker 2: secondary all season long and especially in the playoffs, it's
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  Speaker 2: easy wonder if that second round pick had been an
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman or a defensive back, whether or not they
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  Speaker 2: beat the Rams whether or not they go on and
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  Speaker 2: win another Super Bowl. And so for the Rams, they
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  Speaker 2: were like, you know, let's do that, but worse, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: let's spend a top fifteen pick and overdraft a quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and overdraft the guy that, again we hope does not
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  Speaker 2: touch the field for at least another year or two.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if they don't win a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: this year or next year, whenever Matthew Stafford decides to
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: move on, everybody's going to rightfully look back at that
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: pick and say, hey, And again, it's not about I
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: saw something dan Orlowski on the ESPN talking about it.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: You know, a third wide receiver's production isn't going to
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: make the difference between you winning a championship. It's not
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: about the production. It's about the moments. It's about the matchups.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: It's about it's about being in Seattle in the NFC
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Championship game and having Mackay Lemon as your third receiver
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: against the third quarter to win a third down rep
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: or to win a red zone rep. And so it's
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: those moments that set you apart. And I think that's
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: what's going to come back to bite them if they
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: don't end up taking home a Lombardi in the next
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: couple of years, while the top fifteen pick that they
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: won't have again, by the way, that was a pick
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: from Atlanta. You had an opportunity and they'll spend it
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: the other way. Right They'll say, hey, we'll never be
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: in position to take a quarterback like that. Well that's fine.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Ty Simpson was not a top fifty player for a
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: lot of us in the media, and you took him
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: at thirteen because you wanted to get a quarterback before
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: you needed one. Well, a top fifteen talent would would
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: really be helpful at a lot of other positions that
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: if they fall short, they're going to take a lot
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: of criticism for that, and rightfully.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: So, some fantasy folks could probably use your help. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: know it's early, but you can never talk. You can
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: never have enough talk about fantasy. So with the Seahawks
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: having jd Price, where do you think a sweet spot
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to draft him for the draft?
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Would you say?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: See, the problem with me and fantasy is that Dynasty
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: has ruined me as like an annual fantasy guy, like
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: a reed draft league. I'm ruined because I spent so
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: much time on Dynasty and obviously there's a direct thread
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: between being the draft guy and being a dynasty guy
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: because of the rookie drafts every year. So I'll say this,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know where to place him in a red
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: draft league, but I've seen him in it as like
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: a rookie dynasty pick, being in like the sixth or
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: seventh overall range. I have him at like two or three,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: right behind Jordan Love or right behind Jeremiah Love and
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and right there with Carnell Tate as like everybody's gonna
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: take Love number one. If you have the second pick,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: unless you're stacked at running back, I'm probably taking Jadarian
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Price there. Like that's how much I am confident in
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: his talent. And I think he's landed in just a
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: perfect situation where he's gonna get the ball a lot
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: right away. He's gonna he's got three down value because
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: though so he can stay on the field on third downs,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: he can catch the ball out of the backfield. So
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: your PPR leagues, you're getting points there. And it's a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: healthy offense with a dominant defense, So you're gonna get
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: you know, you're running the ball a lot in the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: second half, you're gonna get defenses that have to respect
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the passing game, so you're not gonna be able to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: load the box against them. Good luck loading the box
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: against any offense with Jackson Smith and Jigba in it,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna pay for that very quickly. So I
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: just think he landed in a perfect situation and I
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: think he's going to get the ball a ton. So again,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know where to draft him and redraft just yet,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: but as a dynasty asset, I would say he's the
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: most valuable one not names Jeremiah Love. So that gives
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: you an idea of how I think of his value.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, who what team has done either to the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: draft or free agency the most you think in this
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: offseason to close a gap on winning a title.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You know, closing a gap on winning a title is tough.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: But if I look at we're tired of saying this, right,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: we were tired of the Jets winning an offseason. We're
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: tired of the Browns winning an offseason, and I just
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: have no faith in their front office. But I think
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the most annoying thing I've had to do over the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: last two weeks is it gives Jerry Jones his flowers
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: like I hate that. That makes me really annoyed, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I just thought, I just think what they did in
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the draft was fantastic. I think being able to get
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the best player in the draft in Caleb Downs. And
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: you can talk about whether or not a safety should
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: be valued that high, I just don't care. He's such
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: an incredible football player and I think he'll fit so
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: well in that defense. And I think, again, you're in
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: a division where you know, Washington has Jayden Daniels and
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: if he's healthy, they'll be dangerous. But that defense is
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: still needs to prove that it can hold its weight.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: The Giants, I don't think are going to be much,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: you know, too much better this year right away. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: think hardball will slowly build that back. And then Philly's
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: just so inconsistent. So I think Dallas is right for
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to jump back into the playoff, the division
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: title conversation, and all you got to do is get
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: a ticket to the dance. So I'm a big fan
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: of Dak Prescott. I think he stabilizes things on that offense.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: If Javonte Williams can stabilize the running game like he
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: did last year, I think what they've done on defense
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: in this draft. Got two of my favorite edge rushers
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: in this draft, and Malachi Lawrence and jay Jon Barram,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And again, I just think Caleb Downs is a transformative
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: player for that defense. He can line up everywhere. He's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: lightning quick. He's such a smart player that he'll be,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you know, in one spot and you'll try to identify
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: him and by the time you turn around from your
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: play action fake, he's in your face or he's somewhere else.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And I just think he makes such a difference there.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So I think I think Dallas will go from that
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: team that's picking in the top fifteen to maybe going
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs because of what they've done this offseason,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the great style.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Where can we find your work?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, athlonsports dot com. Again on Twitter, I'm at Luke Easterling,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But on athlonsports dot Com we'll have updated, you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: analysis all throughout the off season, a bunch of stuff
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: going into OTAs and into training camp, recapping this pass draft,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: looking ahead already to twenty twenty seven. Obviously, we'll have
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: our college football preview magazine out here I think later
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: this month, and then NFL Preview and then Fantasy preview.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: All the magazines will start coming out in advance of
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the season. I know everybody gets excited. That's kind of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the season for a lot of people
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: when those magazines start hitting shelves. So definitely look for those.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'll have a bunch of content in those as well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: but definitely just go go to Athlon Sports, subscribe to
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• 19:51
  Speaker 2: would just put so much work into it and it
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: kind of curates the best content on the website. So
• 19:55
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• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it just serves up the best stories that we're putting
• 19:59
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• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, sir, be well down there in Florida.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Take care. We'll talk to you soon.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks you, I take care.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'll be in the Athlon Sports preview for the NFL
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: with the Seahawks season previd just turned that in last
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: week and updated it yesterday with the Dante Fowler news
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. If you haven't heard, in agreement to have
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a one year contract for worth potentially up to five
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: million dollars with the veteran edge pass rusher.
• 20:25
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• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to the Greg Bell Show with cecificated rolls on here.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: On ninety three point three, KJRFM.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Covered a lot of ground again today.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We gave you the news that Samantha Holloway, the principal
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: owner of the Kraken, the NHL team of course in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: town and now lining up JP Morgan and Company in
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: another investment bank, Molas and Company to be their partners
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: invest partners in exploring a bid for the Sonics and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they return to Seattle. That news from Bloomberg News this morning.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Talked about the NHL draft lottery, the cracking seventh they
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: were eighth last year. Toronto Maple Leafs won the first pick.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: The Canucks have the third pick behind San Jose.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: At second, you know what time it is with the music.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: It's time to be part of your have us be,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'll get it right text line, You're part of the show.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: At four nine, four five one.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Greg started the show talking about the NFL schedule release
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and potentially for week one. Who the Seahawks could face
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: where they'd be the Chiefs, the Bears, the Cowboys. Personally
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: give me the Chiefs. But we took that to the
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: text line and we got a few responses from the
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: four two five. It's too risky to put the Chiefs
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: in versus the Seahawks. If the Seahawks dominate them, it
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: would be a stake in the heart of the Chiefs marketability.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's probably fair.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: They're gonna make excuses for it. Oh well, Mahomes is
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: coming off an injury, the defense isn't as good, Travis
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Kelce is ninety years old.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: We can go on and on and on.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: But for the eyes On, I think that product would
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: be it'd be a really big game that will be
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: televised for Week one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: That's what I believe.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So, and there's sixty more games for the Chiefs to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: determine their season.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Overreaction Monday, let's see, as I mentioned Greg, there's gonna
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: be someone that wants to beat down on the Lesson
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: team and from the four two five Cardinals, but only
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: if they have Aaron Rodgers love seeing him get smashed.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe the Steelers are waiting on Aaron
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Rodgers again.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Well, they have a lot of issues.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: They don't have a head coach, right, Tomlin's gone.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: They have McCarthy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, McCarthy, my bad, no disrespect. He's a solid coach.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But anywhoo, yeah, all right, serious move, It's okay. They
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: got a lot going on. They're gonna have to wait
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: for and warge what else they gonna do.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of it. Will Howard from Ohio State
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: they drafted last year, didn't play a lot because of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: an injury late in the preseason. They don't know what
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they have in him yet. But yeah, growing up in Pittsburgh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: we are shaking our heads about Aaron Rodgers and now
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: we get the Prima Donna act again.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, another good opponent the Sayoffs could face from the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: two five to three. I wouldn't mind the Denver Broncos
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: if indeed bo Knicks could be playing. I think they
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: have a fun matchup, another good defense, a quarterback that
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: is shocking everyone. I think unless you division champion, that's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: true as well. So yeah, I'm fine with that. What
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: are your thoughts on it?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Denver is not a bigger media market than Chicago
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and not the draw that Kansas City or Dallas is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: New England with Boston and the Super Bowl rematch, So
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Denver would be down the list of who I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the NFL would want to showcase on that. But yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it's not the Cardinals. We're picking on the Cardinals.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Well, they're terrible and they're probably going to be terrible again.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: From the three six, so hell yeah, bring on the
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. All right, no disagreement there. Oh, this
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: is a funny one. From the two five to three.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Let's bring in the Giants with Gino and maybe Russell
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Wilson or Las Vegas with Mendoza.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: See, they just want to whoop on somebody's ass.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Week one, except the Giants don't have Gino Smith the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Jets do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well that's what they meant, bringing the Jets.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: With the Jets are on the scheduled kids. Yeah, that's true.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Jackson dart Is John Harbo's quarterback and the Giants about
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the college football schedule changes two five to three. I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: over college football and I have been since NIL came around.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: We don't need another professional league. No thank you for
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: two five says, Leave the Army Navy game where it
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: is by itself, so all of Americans can watch America's game.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to read the last part of that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He has it backwards. Go Army, be Navy. That's what
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I say.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: From a two five three, Greg, we were talking a
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: little bit of Mariners and Dan Wilson's.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Style of using analytics.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: And my question is from the two five three, if
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson is following the metrics as and the Mariner's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: record is what it is, what does that say about
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the validity of said analytics.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, some of the numbers like last night, don't
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: bring the believer in for a second inning, just the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: night after you did do it, and the same guy
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: got Olsen out, and that's that you don't do it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and Olsen it's home Ralpha A. Munez. So yeah, there's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: some inconsistencies, to say the least. Now it could be
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: there bending those rules a little bit because of Brash
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and Spier being injured. Yeah, again its repeeding. Dan Wilson
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is the manager of the Mariners because he committed to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: doing these analytics. I wrote, like down to the letter,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: if that's what Holland did di Poto want, they got
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: their guy to do it. They got their yes man.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Who's not gonna go against that. You bring in a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Joe Madden, to use a name that a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: people wanted to be the Mariner's manager when they hired
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson. After service, you bring in Joe Madden. Madden
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: would say, here's where your innovators go. He leave the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: phone off the hook and the dugout, and he managed
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it this way. But the Mariners didn't want that, so
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: they didn't get that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Speaking of wanting things from the four two five Mariners
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: talk is literally exhausting.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You don't have to do it, guys or sorry?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Does that help at all?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe? No? Jim from the two five three, as soon
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: as I saw munhas coming in a non situation, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: went out non safe situation. I went out and picked
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: up dog poop.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Damn, tell me how you really feel. You'd rather go
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: pick up the poop than watch moon Neal struggle A
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: little bit? Fair enough? This is from our guy. Does
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: not the two five three? Greg, definitely do the high
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: school football segment start in late August, preseason. It'll be fantastic.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And yes, get Egan or Manly.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yep, I think we're gonna do that. And John Manley
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: would be a big part of that. He's got all
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the south side. I mean, like I mentioned, he's from
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Heck down to shit hale Us all the way up
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to Federal Away.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He covers, I'm kind of disappointed in this next one,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna read it anyway. From the four two five,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: he starts off really well, please have a high school
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: football report or special every week.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: It would be awesome. I played for Seattle Prep boo.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: And it was fun and I'll always remember those days
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: and when we beat I don't know who that is
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: better not say, oh day.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just leave it at that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: But yes, he's he or she is also in on
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: having this weekly segment. Seattle Prep, get out of here,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: man or lady, whatever you are, we're not. We're not
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: representing that, you know what, No prep talk when we
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: do this. There's not gonna be anything about a prep player.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I don't care if they were number one in track
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and field. Really, I'm kidding the p I'm just being
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a hater.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You just always have that one high school that you
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: just can't stand. It was Settle Prep and I had
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a high I'm a high school football referee. Official in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the Northwest.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Association, saying that, yes, I did the most games I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: did varsity games I did was Seattle Prep and including
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: against Oday at West Seattle High School. Fun. No Day
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: won that game.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Thanks, But yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I like doing prep games. It's they're kind of fun.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just hating because I went to Oday. You know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like I have an obligation and Oday wins
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and goes to state championships. You're entitled to that if
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: you haven't gotten to West Seattle High School. That's probably
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the most high school like setting for a stadium in
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Seattle proper, in a wooden stadium and covered and PA
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: system and real grass.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Imagine that a real grass high school football field. Yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they tailgate in the parking lot. Yes, Odey has home
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: games there, and as does Seattle Prep. Yeah, you're you're
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: nodding your head.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Remember once, at least once a year to go watch
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a game. Yeah, it's freezing or it's raining.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: It's lovely. It's great football out there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Go Irish two O six the Poto Hondred Wilson. I'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: start to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher. Whah, that's thanks
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: for speaking the truth, Kyle, from Ken Moore got Kyle, Yes,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'll read this because Greg won't.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: From the four two five last one for me, This
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: will put a little chuckle go Navy, Greg beat Army
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: told you, but a small onnest face.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You're patronizing. You didn't have to do that. You did
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: not have to do that. Here's a good point, and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: we brought up briefly. Four two five says l O
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: L That means laughed out right. Chris, You're on it
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: all right. I'm not that old. Everyone keeps saying the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Astros are awful, yet the Mariners only have two more
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: wins than they do. Hey, you know what, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: We're not here to except they're not the Astros, right. No,
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  Speaker 1: for the trash Cans, there will always be the trash
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  Speaker 1: Cans cheaters. You know.
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  Speaker 4: The Mariners don't cheat.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: They should cheat at this point, have been in the
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  Speaker 3: World Series yet and you had opportunities to cheat and
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  Speaker 3: you dec had it not to. Just don't get caught,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean teams have cheated and haven't got caught.
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  Speaker 4: For yes, I do. There you go, four two five ps.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone will watch the first game of the NFL season,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: regardless of the matchup. That's true. They would watch any
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: matchup of any NFL teams. They just that's the way
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  Speaker 1: the NFL is in this league, in this society. Okay,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: regarding Army Navy, no one will watch on Thanksgiving. Well,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be on Thanksgiving Day because that's the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: They were talking about Thanksgiving weekend. If they were up
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: against an NFL pim yage, they need their own weekend
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in December for recruiting and national defense. I get that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the showcase. CBS pays a lot of money to broadcast
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the Army Navy game as a standalone event every year,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and that's a huge draw for recruiting. Absolutely, thanks for
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: everyone in text line four nine, four to five when
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: we do that every day. At eleven thirty, Chris Crawford
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is here. He's pinch iting again for Ian Forness. He
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: will join us next heading into his show twelve to
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  Speaker 1: three on ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back Greg Mell,
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  Speaker 1: Christopher kre with you, Chris playing the Friends music. That
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: means it's time for cross talk with the host of
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  Speaker 1: the next show, which is not Ian Fornest. Today back
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  Speaker 1: with us is Christopher Crawford, who tracked all the way
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: from Southwest Oregon where.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Everything it felt like it it felt like driving by JBLM.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: You might as well be an eastern New Guinea at
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: that point. Man, it's just so bad, but I'm always
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: willing to do it because I'm thrilled to talk to
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  Speaker 5: people like you.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, you're okay, thank you. Well, we've talked about the Mariners.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's worth talking about the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Mariners again. But so they have these on bullpen usage,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: but they don't Monday night they let Forreer come in
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  Speaker 1: after pitching one and to come back for another one
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to face Olsen right the next night. They don't home
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  Speaker 1: run off of munos ready versus lefty. It went against
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: one role but then broke another. Well righty lefty and
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  Speaker 1: bringing a guy over more than one inning.
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  Speaker 5: So my biggest thing there too is I think Adrix
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Munyas is going to be fine. Like a lot of
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: the metrics suggests that he's pitching okay, there's been some
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: weak contact. The exception to that is lefties are hitting
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: the crap out of him, and why not have a
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: lefty face? What is one of the hottest hitters in
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: baseball and Matt Olsen and then going to Munhos, there's
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: there's just this weird belief about them. I can't remember
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: the last time I saw Munhos enter a game where
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: it wasn't just a clean inning.
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  Speaker 1: It's sixty nine of seventy two appearances the last two
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: years has come in at the start of an inning.
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  Speaker 5: Sixty nine seventy three out of twenty four times. Yes,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: you are seeing Andre Smuonios come in. I think that's
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: a mistake. I mean, it just it just kind of
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  Speaker 5: boggles my mind sometimes about this bullpen management. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'll also say this, if you have a better offensive game,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: this doesn't matter as much, right, Like, you score two runs,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: you strike out sixteen times. It just has been such
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: a disappointing start to this season, and what a disappointing
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: home stand after such a good road trip.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true for Air. By the way, if I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: want to add on to this lifetime Olson, Matt Olson
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  Speaker 1: was one for eight with three strikeouts against Forever.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's a you can say all you want
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  Speaker 5: about small sample, but you clearly not picking up the
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: baseball well against him, and especially the night before, the
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: night before, Yeah, he looked great against him. So I
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: just that really struggle. I really struggle with that. And
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: you know, you can talk all you want about how
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: they shouldn't have been in that position, but once they're
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: in those positions, it's another case where I do not
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  Speaker 5: trust the manager of the Seattle Mariners to make the
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: right call.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: How much of it is do you think that he
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: is just wedded to whatever Hollander and Topoto and the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: iPads tell him to do?
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Some there's some of that, for sure. There is some
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: of that. You sure get a longer leash if you're
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: doing what the front office tells you to. It's just like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: this is a widespread thing around baseball. This isn't me
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: just saying things for the sake of saying things, which
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: I love to do, by the way, I love the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: sound of my own voice. But there is a widespread
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: belief too that one of the reasons Jerry Depoto has
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: had such a long leaf leash is because he's willing
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: to do what John Stanton tells him to do. And
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Dan Wilson is willing to do the things that Justin
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Hollander and Jerry Depoto tell him to do, and then
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: so on and so forth, and that creates a chain
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: and sometimes it works great and sometimes it works not
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: so well, and last night was an example of it
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: not working so well.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Our buddy Keith two five three on the tech sign.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Please explain to mister Crawford how much better corn tortillas
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: are than flower.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Say, state my own. I get it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I like the crunch of a corn tortilla too, But
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: if you're not cooking that thing in oil, and you're
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: just giving me one of those hard shell corn tortillas hard.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: No, but you could also have corn tortillas that are.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Saw Absolutely, That's what I'm talking about. If you're doing
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: it that way, if you are taking the time to
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: cook those, my.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Thing is not even cook them, just just warm them.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the smaller corn tortillas. Sure that that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: are smaller taco, but I'm like, I need a big
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: taco crea like flower totilla. Yes, they tend to corn,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: tend to be smaller. Yes, tend to be they are
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: more of a real taco than a flower taco.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: But I like the ease, and I prefer the taste
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: of a flour tortilla taco. If I don't have to
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: do any work to that corn tortilla. Keith, I love you,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: but don't only you're only supposed to be listening to
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: from from twelve to three. Come on, man, By.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: The way, Chris, we seem to have awakened most of
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Prep booster club. Yeah, I mean, oh boy,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: all over the text line nowice.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Where on my Irish said I only see one. Come on,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: if you missed that talk. We are Chris and I
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: are going to have a show Fridays.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: We're pretty much committing to a show on high school
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: sports that's high school football, not a show making sure
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: part of a show.
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  Speaker 4: Will do a weekly.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Segment on Friday and maybe have a game of the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: week with the coaches.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the very first you owe me one.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the very first time I ever appeared on KJR
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: was what I was doing stringing for the News Tribune
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: and I was doing the very first game at the
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: new Bellerman Stadium.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: So I mean I have a I have a very
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: and you know, doing all the baseball stuff that I
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: have done, I have a very prep sports.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Mean a lot.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get John Manley involved, We'll get Chris involved,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: We'll open up the phone lines.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Love it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to do that, man, I love it. I'm
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: not immune to the phone lines. I don't know why
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: everyone at the station's afraid of that.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: What do you got going on today? We've got a
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: bunch of stuff work. Of course, going to talk talk
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: about the Mariners. We're gonna talk about them for a
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: little bit. We're gonna talk about the Kraken. Yesterday was
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: a bad day for the show, cracking and talking about
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: the fact that they just do not have that star
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: power and a chance to get that star power. One
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: loss away from having better odds than Toronto and I
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: abhore tanking. But we'll talk about what could have happened
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: if you did, and we'll of course talk about some
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Seahawks as well. It should be a lot of fun.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Trade for Austin Matthews, we could.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Do that, eh yeah, Oh my gosh.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: Well, anders he doesn't know it yet, but that's one
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: of the things we're gonna be talking about, is what
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: we would trade the number six pick for.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Andrews has got stripes, Argentinian stripes. On today. He looks beautiful.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: He always looks beautiful, but he looks very festive today.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, my wife fessed me up.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's a spousal movie. Argentinian wife
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Anderson Hurst is with Chris Crawford and Jessmen McIntyre from
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: twelve until three. Greig Bell, The News Tribune and Christopher
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Kidd appreciate it. I might head to the yard. Here's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: what's Brian Woo's latest start. You Gotta Chris is up
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  Speaker 1: next to ninety three point three k JRFM.