Latest / Founder Unfiltered - What Founders Think But Never Say / I Am Not The Business: Imposter Syndrome is REAL as an Independent Professional
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- 0:00Welcome to another episode of 6 Figure Secrets for Fractional
- 0:03Experts. My name is Bradley Jacobs.
- 0:05I'm your host, the founder and CEO of My Lands.
- 0:09Today we're going to go into imposter syndrome.
- 0:13It is such a common feeling and experience.
- 0:16I think every single person who's gone out on their own,
- 0:19including myself, has faced it. So we're going to go into where
- 0:23it comes from, what it looks like and feels like, and how we
- 0:27can really overcome it. And I'll share some of my own
- 0:29personal anecdotes along the way.
- 0:31And frankly, mine has come up as we built this new product.
- 0:35We have this really exciting new product that's going to help you
- 0:39become a thought leader on LinkedIn, that's attracting
- 0:42clients, that's building trust with clients.
- 0:45It's really powerful. It uses AI to learn you and
- 0:48analytics and there's all this newness that comes with it.
- 0:51And even though I've been on my own for seven years now, I still
- 0:55have it. It's like, do I have what it
- 0:58takes? Is this product really going to
- 0:59be valuable for people? I'm easy to discount when people
- 1:03really give me positive feedback.
- 1:05I I chalk it up to luck or, you know, oh, you're just saying
- 1:09that, right? Like those are the kinds of
- 1:10things where I know when I'm saying things like that, they're
- 1:14coming from an imposter place. The first part is where this is
- 1:18coming from. And it's relatively simple,
- 1:21right? Because the majority of people
- 1:23that are going out on their own, they've had some success in a
- 1:27past career, they had some success in school.
- 1:30And so they're basically you're, I'm going to speak to you,
- 1:34you're basically used to being good, but you had a, a layer of
- 1:41protection around you. Usually that's a company, an
- 1:44organization, an institution, right?
- 1:46You might have had school, you might have had a company, you
- 1:49had a boss, you had all of these things that were kind of
- 1:52protecting you. And the risk really wasn't that
- 1:56high compared to going out completely on your own where if
- 2:01whatever you're doing fails, let's just say it's a business,
- 2:04you're consulting company. If it quote, UN quote fails, you
- 2:08feel like a failure, right? Whereas if you work at a company
- 2:12and that company, let's just say, goes bankrupt, you could
- 2:15still feel like you did a really good job at your job.
- 2:17And it's it's, it's not your company.
- 2:20So it doesn't feel like you a lot of, and I'll speak for
- 2:23myself, a lot of us who have been successful in our careers,
- 2:27we had this perfectionist mindset and a honesty, really
- 2:31narrow definition of competence. It is very narrow in what I deem
- 2:37quote UN quote success. And so, and I'm kind of used to
- 2:40always winning, I'd say, right? Like I got into college and then
- 2:43I did find in college and I got a job and I got promoted.
- 2:47I'm kind of used to winning like all the time.
- 2:50And as we go out on our own, we are going to try a lot of things
- 2:54that don't work, which is in my mind a win, right?
- 2:58Because when you find something that doesn't work, it's a win
- 3:01because you can kind of cross it off and move on to the next
- 3:03thing and you get closer and closer and closer.
- 3:05But it doesn't feel like a win because we're not used to quote
- 3:08winning in that way. We're used to the all the
- 3:11positive things, not necessarily the lessons from the quote UN
- 3:15quote negative things or the thing that wasn't effective.
- 3:18And so we can easily have this fear that we're not capable,
- 3:23that we're not competent. And so I don't want to post on
- 3:26LinkedIn, for example. I don't want to market myself
- 3:29because I'm scared of what someone might think or what
- 3:33they'll say or that I will, for the first, maybe the first time
- 3:36in my life, get comments from someone that says, hey, Bradley,
- 3:41you're actually not that good at this, right?
- 3:44And then, Oh my God, I've quit my job and someone is telling me
- 3:47I'm not that good at it. And what does that mean about
- 3:49me? What does that mean about the
- 3:50business? Can I charge anything?
- 3:51Will I put food on the table? Can I make enough money?
- 3:54Right? There's all these stories that
- 3:56aren't true, but our mind can so easily go into these worst case
- 4:01scenarios of all the things that might happen if literally one
- 4:05person says, hey, Bradley, you're not that good at this.
- 4:08And when I put it into those kind of terms, it's like, OK,
- 4:11well, that's ridiculous, right? One person said it, who cares,
- 4:14right? But that's so easily where we
- 4:17can kind of spiral into. And then this one person becomes
- 4:21this massive fear of, Oh my God, am I going to be able to make it
- 4:25on my own? Now, we're going to go a little
- 4:27bit into psychology here. So this term was actually coined
- 4:30in 1978 and it was actually talking a lot about women who
- 4:36experience imposter phenomenon, believing that they're not
- 4:39bright and have fooled anyone who thinks otherwise.
- 4:43Because for a very long time and still to some degree today,
- 4:47right business specifically is, has been and is more male
- 4:52dominated. And obviously women have made a
- 4:54lot of progress. But we're not going to lie and
- 4:56say it's an even playing field right now because we all know
- 4:59it's not. Whether you look at VC funding,
- 5:01women in corporate roles, women entrepreneurs, anything, right?
- 5:04It's like women are not close to parody, which is terrible, but
- 5:08topic for another day. But this actually came, the term
- 5:12imposter syndrome came from the experience of women back in the
- 5:1670s. And when we look at really the
- 5:18root cause of imposter syndrome, it is that high achievers,
- 5:24myself included, I was always a good student and did well in my
- 5:27jobs and things like that. We're praised for performance.
- 5:31It wasn't about my effort. It wasn't about who I am as a
- 5:34person. It was about what I did, what I
- 5:38accomplished, what grades I got, how much money I made by impact
- 5:42to the organization, how much revenue I made us, how much cost
- 5:45I saved us, whatever it was. So the internal dialogue is
- 5:49basically, I'm only valuable as a person when I excel and
- 5:55anything less than that means I'm a fraud.
- 5:59So when we think about that I'm going out of my own business,
- 6:02the pressure to then succeed in the business grow.
- 6:06Revenue is so high and anything along the way, roadblocks, speed
- 6:11bumps, rejections, redirections, all of it literally feels like a
- 6:16failure. And I'll actually never forget,
- 6:19it was the first my land started and I actually was running a
- 6:22coaching business, helping people launch their consulting
- 6:25businesses. And the first cohort I ran, I
- 6:28got feedback. I asked everybody for feedback.
- 6:31And the feedback was really mixed, to be honest, like I was,
- 6:34it was my first time was five years ago and I was honestly
- 6:39heartbroken. I was like 1.
- 6:41I cannot believe I charge this much for something that people
- 6:44had like very up and down reviews for.
- 6:46And B, what does this mean about me?
- 6:48What does this mean about the future of violence, the success
- 6:50of violence? I had all of the like, I went
- 6:52down the spiral and then I was like, I have no time for this.
- 6:55I have another cohort launching in four days.
- 6:57I got to like take all the feedback and make this thing
- 6:59amazing. And I did.
- 7:01But there was absolutely that fear in me that felt like it
- 7:05came true, right? The fear was, am I going to be
- 7:08able to make anything really valuable?
- 7:10And then the feedback I got was like, you did an OK job at best
- 7:15for the first cohort, and then I knocked it out of the park for
- 7:17the second cohort. But damn, that was so tough to
- 7:21receive because my identity was tied to the business's
- 7:26performance. And that is a really dangerous
- 7:28place to be because at the end of the day, and I've learned
- 7:30this through many, many years, but I'm not the business, the
- 7:34business. Let's just say I, I could shut
- 7:36down the the business and I could still be incredibly
- 7:40successful professional. In fact, no matter what I do in
- 7:43my professional career, I know that I'm successful.
- 7:45I know that I'm talented, but that disconnect is not always an
- 7:49easy thing to practice. So if we talk about
- 7:51perfectionism, often, we are setting unrealistically high
- 7:55standards for ourselves of what success looks like.
- 7:59In fact, we don't even define success.
- 8:00We're just like, Oh my God, I better fucking crush it.
- 8:03And then anything that actually does happen in our favor, we can
- 8:06often discount it and say it's like either luck or is good
- 8:09timing. And because the end of the day,
- 8:12the perfectionist believe if I were truly competent, I would
- 8:17never struggle, which is outrageous, right?
- 8:21Not a single person, not a single entrepreneur has ever not
- 8:24struggled. It's just part of the journey.
- 8:26But we don't go into this accepting that, knowing that,
- 8:29embracing that the other part is social media, right?
- 8:33It, it leads to such an easy comparison of the highlight
- 8:37reels of everybody else. So you think everybody else is
- 8:40crushing it. You don't actually know what's
- 8:42going on in their business. And so you just think that
- 8:45you're the only one struggling. So I actually think surrounding
- 8:47yourself, and I did this in the very, very early days of my life
- 8:50and still to this day, but surrounding yourself with other
- 8:53people on the same journey. Don't surround yourself with
- 8:56executives at companies that don't have any idea what it's
- 8:59truly like to run your own company with the ups and downs
- 9:02and stress and late nights and unknowns and uncertainties and
- 9:05rejections and all of that, right?
- 9:07Surrounding yourself with people, genuine people that are
- 9:10actually willing to talk about what it's like and don't like.
- 9:13Literally completely ignore all of the boasting, let's say on
- 9:18whether it's LinkedIn, Instagram, wherever you see it.
- 9:21Because the end of the day, my favorite are the I raised X
- 9:24$1,000,000 posts. Because I hate to break it to
- 9:27you. When you raise $10 million, you
- 9:30just sold a huge percent of your company.
- 9:33You are committed to basically spending that money quickly,
- 9:36which is operating your business at a loss, putting yourself on a
- 9:40very rapid timeline to achieving either profitability or hitting
- 9:44metrics to raise the next round. Like, I don't think there's a
- 9:47whole lot, to be honest, to celebrate raising a huge amount
- 9:51of money. Like if you have a profitable
- 9:53business and then you go raise money to like fuel your growth,
- 9:55love it. Like love that plan.
- 9:58But just keep in mind like what people are often boasting about,
- 10:01there's lots of challenges with those things.
- 10:04And you shouldn't be looking at it as like, Oh my God, they're
- 10:06crushing it. And I'm struggling.
- 10:07So be really, really cognizant of that compare.
- 10:10And the last thing I'll say on where this comes from is it
- 10:12comes from a place of carrot. You care, you want to be
- 10:17successful, you want to add value.
- 10:19You want people to be paying for something and feel like they got
- 10:23their money's worth, right. And so there's that fear that
- 10:28you're going to sell something and they're not going to get
- 10:30their their money's worth. And that's scary and you don't
- 10:32want that. And so you're trying to avoid
- 10:34this bad case scenario. You're trying to avoid this
- 10:36client or customer that's disappointed in you because
- 10:40you've probably again, haven't faced that before.
- 10:42And so you have these fears. And so you're like, oh, if I put
- 10:45myself out there and then I win a client and then I disappoint
- 10:47them, then that's going to feel like shit.
- 10:50And it might, but that's also part of the journey.
- 10:53And So what now we can talk about like, how do we actually
- 10:57deal with this? And honestly, the first part is
- 11:01acknowledging what's true. Like I laid out a bunch of
- 11:05things, stories that might be going on in your mind that you
- 11:09haven't admitted to yourself. So I would honestly do some
- 11:13journaling. I'm a really big journaler and I
- 11:16would write out these questions like when I am scared to do X,
- 11:20when I'm scared to post on LinkedIn, when I'm scared about
- 11:23signing a big client, when I'm scared about charging a really
- 11:26big rate, when I'm scared, whatever it is, this is my
- 11:30story. I am scared that fill in the
- 11:34blank. I am scared that I will let a
- 11:35client down. I am scared that I'll get
- 11:38rejected. I'm scared that my client will
- 11:41tell me I'm charging way too much for the value I bring.
- 11:43I'm scared I'll get fired. I'm scared my wife won't love
- 11:45me. Like whatever it is, right?
- 11:47Write down all of them because they're all living in your
- 11:50subconscious world and writing them and bringing them to the
- 11:53surface allows you to 1 see that they're just a story and two,
- 11:58rewrite the belief because you know that.
- 12:02Let's just say you're worried that like your wife won't love
- 12:04you anymore. My last one, you know in your
- 12:07heart that if you lose a client, your wife is not going to have
- 12:10any feelings about that. Like, you know that, right?
- 12:13So, or I'm not going to put the words in your mouth, but you get
- 12:16to write what's actually true. And then you really get to focus
- 12:20on the process. Because the process of building
- 12:23a company, whether it's consulting, business, or
- 12:25literally anything else, is all about learning and adding value
- 12:29and iterating and learning and adding value and iterating.
- 12:32And when you are smart and you work hard and you iterate
- 12:35appropriately and you track the right things, you're going to
- 12:38figure things out. You're going to figure out how
- 12:40to add value. You're going to figure out how
- 12:41to charge for your worth. You're going to figure out how
- 12:44to acquire new clients. You're going to figure out how
- 12:46to deliver an amazing product. And so learning what doesn't
- 12:50work or getting told no is just part of the process.
- 12:54So really orienting yourself. Like I'm a big fan of spending
- 12:58literally 1% of my time setting goals and 99% of time setting up
- 13:02systems and processes that are going to set me up for success.
- 13:05Where I can learn what's working, I can add value and
- 13:08iterate quickly. Like that's what really matters.
- 13:11Spending all these times on goals, it doesn't really matter
- 13:14because if you don't have a system to achieve them and a
- 13:16process to rely on, you're not gonna hit them.
- 13:19Or maybe you will, but you're kind of just like hoping and
- 13:22praying. That's not a strategy.
- 13:23Hoping is not a strategy. So changing your identity from I
- 13:28need to prove I need to win to be worthy.
- 13:32I need to win to feel good to I need to follow my process.
- 13:37I need to learn how to add value.
- 13:39I need to take the quote UN quote losses along with the wins
- 13:43in stride. I need to iterate, I need to
- 13:45learn, I need to get feedback. Changing your identity as an
- 13:48entrepreneur allows you to not be so fixated on I need to win,
- 13:55to feel good about myself, to be successful, to put myself out
- 13:58there online, market my services, etcetera.
- 14:02And the last thing I'll say with this is giving yourself that
- 14:05grace and compassion because you really are transitioning from an
- 14:10employee mindset where it's just not your baby.
- 14:14And of course, I'm sure you want to do a good job, but there's
- 14:16just a different level of intensity.
- 14:20There's a different level of risk on the line to I am the
- 14:24business. And especially when you're a
- 14:26consultant, you are selling you, you are the product, right?
- 14:31Like if I go build software, yes, I built it.
- 14:33So I feel that connection, but it's not me.
- 14:36If you don't like my software, great.
- 14:38I'm like, OK, the software I built doesn't serve you right.
- 14:41But when it's you, it can feel a lot more personal, right?
- 14:44Because you, it's your expertise.
- 14:46So you get to distance yourself from the business.
- 14:50You get to realize and that this is the first time you're doing
- 14:53it and you get to give yourself grace so that when you are being
- 14:56hard on yourself, when you're having all these things come up,
- 14:59like, OK, just remind yourself, I'm in this transition, I'm
- 15:02learning, I'm figuring things out.
- 15:03I'm going to go talk to Bradley. I'm going to listen to this
- 15:05podcast, I'm going to go get support and I'm going to give
- 15:08myself grace along the way because this is no easy journey.
- 15:12And I think the emotional side of this journey is the most
- 15:15difficult one, which is why I took the time to record this
- 15:18podcast to 1 relate to all of you.
- 15:20You're not alone. I've been there, done and that I
- 15:23faced it myself. I continue to face it all the
- 15:25time. I just have learned at this
- 15:27point, it's part of the journey and it's not going to hold me
- 15:31back from serving the people I love serving.
- 15:34Adding value where I can add value.
- 15:36It's like, look, I got a LinkedIn post the other day
- 15:39where some guy completely disagreed with me and told me
- 15:41that like fractionals were, you know, stupid to hire for their
- 15:44company. And I was like, whoa, right.
- 15:46And kind of like takes me back. But for every one person that
- 15:49disagrees with me or thinks that I don't add value, there's a 100
- 15:52out there that are getting value.
- 15:54And I'm going to focus on that and learning and iterating and
- 15:57getting better and better and better every single time versus
- 16:01focusing on the one or two people that says, Hey, I don't
- 16:04like what you have to say with that.
- 16:06I hope you got value out of this episode.
- 16:08This came specifically, this topic was specifically requested
- 16:11from one of our members. So hope you guys enjoyed it.
- 16:14Come check us out on my at mylance.co.
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