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Patriots Unfiltered 2/7: Top Takeaways from Senior Bowl / Shrine Bowl, How will Tom Brady be Honored by the Patriots?, Positions of Need this Offseason · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: origion poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. Any thoughts, um Paul
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  Speaker 1: or Alex on yesterday's announcement, Paul, you're disgusted with the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. I'm not. Do you think Patriots fans think
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  Speaker 1: this is I'm not going to get into like the
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  Speaker 1: Patriot fans think. I just I'm saying what I certainly
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  Speaker 1: not one but a nice call friend from He asked basketball,
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  Speaker 1: are you from here? When was that like ninety three
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I forget what yarro was. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even born yet. And I also don't go away. The
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  Speaker 1: b roll was very carefully crafted to make sure it
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  Speaker 1: was fifty percent Patriots and fifty percent Buccaneers, and that
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  Speaker 1: pissed me off. Years in six Super Bowl wins appearances,
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  Speaker 1: he well, that's what it is. We want to claim
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  Speaker 1: him as our he is not, According to Yes, why
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  Speaker 1: do you care what they do? All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you've for twenty years you've you've called them the anti Christ.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can't that they have a logo one I
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  Speaker 1: don't like the anti christ ESPN. Brady retires and it's
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  Speaker 1: all Bucks logos. That's BS. It's BS. Oh. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about Kyle Trash though. Is Patriots Unfiltered fueled
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  Speaker 1: by Duncan? All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and I feel like we've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about. I mean, man, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: our team's back from the Shrine Bowl, so we've got
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  Speaker 1: all that and the Pro Bowl, Matt Judon festival going
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  Speaker 1: out there on Patriots dot Com and all our social
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  Speaker 1: media accounts. But you know, you've still got the lingering
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about the Brady retirement and what to do uh
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  Speaker 1: as a Patriots organization for him and what would he
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  Speaker 1: be willing to do. We've got the Super Bowl coming up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we got record cold over the weekend and
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  Speaker 1: we Paul and I already got into an argument. He
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  Speaker 1: thinks that if that cold, and just so people know,
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  Speaker 1: on Mount Washington in New Hampshire it was the coldest
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  Speaker 1: ever registered in the United States period period. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that's where they play a game, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that they played the game there. I would I
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  Speaker 1: think if that weather happened during a season, I think
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  Speaker 1: they'd have to postpony move it to the next day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was minus thirty forty degrees wind chill.
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  Speaker 1: In some places, it's not football weather. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how it wouldn't have been fun. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think they would have canceled the game. Well, your camp,
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  Speaker 1: your comp was the three divisional Yeah, it was like
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  Speaker 1: minus ten wind chill. It was like four degrees. It
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  Speaker 1: was you know, it was colder. Fred's right, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was colder Saturday. Yeah, I mean it was people's day,
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  Speaker 1: but not by much. What were the guys like in
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  Speaker 1: the locker round to that game? Where my favorite moment
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  Speaker 1: after that game was in frederal. Remember Bethel Johnson, who's
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  Speaker 1: talking about you know, I was out there, I had
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  Speaker 1: no sleeves, I was tough, and he caught a big
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  Speaker 1: touchdown pass in that game. So then you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: like editing all the stories and everything, and Fred always
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  Speaker 1: would pick out the cover photo, and the cover photo
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  Speaker 1: from that was Bethel Johnson having the ball under one
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  Speaker 1: arm with the other arm in the air as he's
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  Speaker 1: crossing the goal line with sleeves on. He liked just
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  Speaker 1: he lied to everybody. And you know who remembers specifically
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  Speaker 1: fifty three players what they were wearing during the John sleeves.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of my my department. It was. It was
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  Speaker 1: ridiculously cold, brutal. Yeah, well I don't know about that
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  Speaker 1: it was, but it was. It was definitely colder. Said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying, if it was minus forty winchi
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  Speaker 1: Fred's right. I don't know if the league a liability
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  Speaker 1: standpoint would be able to have the game it was,
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  Speaker 1: He arguings, right, No, I just you know, people, people
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  Speaker 1: get hurt, lose limbs, and you know, ironically, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they cared about the players. But if a fan
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  Speaker 1: got uh you know, hypothermian dive, you know, God forbid,
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  Speaker 1: the league would get sued. That's what they're worried about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's dedication. You know, I had texted the game,
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  Speaker 1: you held the game, so I went, and now my
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  Speaker 1: first my grandmother died. You know I would bring grandma
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  Speaker 1: to this, Yeah, I don't. Anyway, it was cold, interesting, interesting.
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  Speaker 1: They'd have a decision to make if that was you know,
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  Speaker 1: that could have been a playoff game. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: absolutely four years earlier that would have been a playoff game. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But and then the next day it was fifty degrees.
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  Speaker 1: It was the craziest thing. It was like you were
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  Speaker 1: on vacation and woke up somewhere different, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: the morning and you know at night, and it was
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  Speaker 1: a whole different climate. Yeah. Only we didn't go anywhere, right,
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  Speaker 1: it was nuts nuts say ref hockey games Friday night
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  Speaker 1: and the power went out in the rink. I never
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  Speaker 1: had that, had to call them. So yeah, it's unprecedented
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  Speaker 1: kind of territory everywhere. And surprisingly your calls were no different.
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  Speaker 1: Dark I know, right, you're blind. Rep. I did great.
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  Speaker 1: Should have thrown a kid out though he kept hitting
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  Speaker 1: people and I'm like, dude, you can't hit people, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? And he just had like dead I
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  Speaker 1: don't you even know, like dolls eyes? Yeah, who was
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  Speaker 1: his kid? Black guy? Scared me? What else do we
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  Speaker 1: have to put on the table? Oh? Bill Belichick and
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Yeah up last Yeah, that was on the
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  Speaker 1: Let's Go for podcast, And I mean I read some
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  Speaker 1: of the transcript and man, if if you think that
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  Speaker 1: you know, they don't like each other, I think that
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  Speaker 1: put that to joke. Oh you know what a joke?
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  Speaker 1: Why'd you leave? Well, why'd you leave? Okay, if you
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  Speaker 1: love him that much and he's such a good coach
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  Speaker 1: and he's so why'd you leave? Honestly? Because well, you
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  Speaker 1: don't think money had anything to do with it. If
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  Speaker 1: it was over money, then that's that's terrible. That's what
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  Speaker 1: it was. If it's over money, then that's terrible. And
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  Speaker 1: will be the first person to leave because of money.
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  Speaker 1: If anything, If it was over the roster, also terrible
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  Speaker 1: because they can make the roster better, and we all
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  Speaker 1: know they would have made the roster better. I understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is an absence. I think that it's
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  Speaker 1: an an absence makes the heart grow fonder situation where Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now we look at it, I would now look at
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  Speaker 1: it three years later, and I can appreciate what we
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  Speaker 1: had for twenty years, and maybe that's part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But to have them both go on there, he's the greatest,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the greatest, you're the greatest, We're all the great
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  Speaker 1: Like come, it's a slap in the face, it is.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have that on my beingle card. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting perspective, and I can understan I've been
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  Speaker 1: salty towards him since. Yeah, I can understand if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't like him leaving, then I can understand that perspective.
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  Speaker 1: But I and I agree with you, Evan. I think
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  Speaker 1: absence does make the heart grow fonder. I think there
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  Speaker 1: were moments while they were here that they hated each other,
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  Speaker 1: probably right, just like I don't know why everybody always
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  Speaker 1: says that, you know right, exactly like I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why everybody always says because it's true. Right. If this
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  Speaker 1: was all of a sudden shines and rainbows that you
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  Speaker 1: guys just presented to us in that gush fest last night,
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  Speaker 1: then he never would have laughed. But I think all
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  Speaker 1: the bad things, like you said, melt away and you appreciate.
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  Speaker 1: It's like those tough coaches you had. You hated him
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  Speaker 1: in the moment, and then you look back and you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was good for me, and it was a long time.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of perspective, yeah, a lot of it. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the grass isn't really greener. Maybe you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: when you grow up, your parents tell you what to
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  Speaker 1: do your whole life, and then now I'm at the
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  Speaker 1: age where I'm my crap. Dad was right, Yeah, Mom
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  Speaker 1: was right, Yeah, unfreeze your own pups. So I think
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  Speaker 1: they'd both like to take the best elements of each
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  Speaker 1: other and just remember that. So, but I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's it was nice. I think I think I think
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  Speaker 1: they meant what they said. I don't think it was bs.
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  Speaker 1: They just left out all the bad stuff, that's all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've always had the same thought on this. And when
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  Speaker 1: he came back with the Bucks and said some of
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  Speaker 1: the things he said postgame about how he wants to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of the Patriots community and his post
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  Speaker 1: playing career and all that kind of stuff, if he
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  Speaker 1: if he backs that up with his actions and he's
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  Speaker 1: year for whatever celebration we come up with or whatever
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  Speaker 1: ceremony we come up with, and all these types of
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  Speaker 1: different checkpoints that I know every Patriots fan wants to see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a one day contract guy. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: him to sign the one day contract, but I need
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  Speaker 1: him to come back and say I know that deep down,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a Patriot, right, I'm not a Buck. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. Sure. Until he does that and he's on
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  Speaker 1: my this could this be the first ever Fred evan argument.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not arguing. Well, he disagrees with you about what
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it was nice and he's disgusted by it. No,
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  Speaker 1: he said he would he wants him to come back,
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  Speaker 1: come back and fix it. Did you listen to what
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  Speaker 1: he said? The way he saw the game was so
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  Speaker 1: incredible if you want to want to do the one
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  Speaker 1: day contract or not, because you said it was stupid
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  Speaker 1: and now you're like, no, I want him. It's like
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  Speaker 1: what you said. I don't know if it was on
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  Speaker 1: the on the show before, but he's he's ours, right,
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  Speaker 1: like he's he's ours, And until he acknowledges on his
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  Speaker 1: side that he's ours, then I'm still salty about it. No,
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  Speaker 1: I get that as a fan, I understand that I
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  Speaker 1: want that too. I want I want him to want
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  Speaker 1: to be with us exactly. You just want me. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need him to contract. That's symbolic. You don't
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  Speaker 1: need that. I need him to come back. And personally,
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  Speaker 1: I and I'm just speaking for myself, I think that
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  Speaker 1: they should do a Tom Brady Night, separate from any
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  Speaker 1: game or anything like that. There'll be seventy thousand people
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  Speaker 1: in that stadium, just to say hi to him from
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  Speaker 1: a hundred yards away. Like right, it doesn't even need
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  Speaker 1: to be anything else. We have, we have the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll cover the crap out of it. It will be great,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll and we'll have that moment of because the
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  Speaker 1: way that he left in free agency, we never even
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  Speaker 1: got to say goodbye. And then he left after the
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  Speaker 1: Titans game, which none of us want to remember as
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  Speaker 1: that was the the last game that he's played here,
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  Speaker 1: and so we never really got to have a great
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  Speaker 1: moment of closure on his Funny, just for the hell
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  Speaker 1: of it, he throws a pass that is caught by
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  Speaker 1: a patriot at that ceremony, just so we can say
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  Speaker 1: the last pass he threw him. Yeah, bring Ediman back
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  Speaker 1: to him. But I agree with everything is sad. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why Paul's trying to pick a fight here.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, he completely disagrees with you. I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: how you can think about the same thing. He's mad
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  Speaker 1: at Tom, yes, but he still wants him to come back.
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  Speaker 1: But he's mad at Tom. You're not like you. Guys
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  Speaker 1: have two different stuff. But I understand that perspective. I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to argue with that. No, But I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I was only joking around about your fight.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but he disagrees with you. You're not saying
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, really, and I'm not telling you that
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  Speaker 1: I agree with either either side. But what Evan said
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  Speaker 1: and what you said, we're not the same thing. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was I was just talking about the thing he did.
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  Speaker 1: You thought it was nice last night, and you thought
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  Speaker 1: it was nice. He hated it. Okay, it was okay,
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  Speaker 1: So you're not saying it's like a movie. I saw
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  Speaker 1: a movie. I liked it. He didn't. As a fan,
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  Speaker 1: the disagreement. Speaking as a fan right now, watching him
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  Speaker 1: play for the Bucks was like one of the worst
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  Speaker 1: experiences of them. I couldn't even watch some of the
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  Speaker 1: games sometimes because I was just like, I just can't
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  Speaker 1: that first year, I can't see this right now. And
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  Speaker 1: then he goes on and wins the Super Bowl with Tampa,
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  Speaker 1: and now you know Tampa, when he ran off the
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  Speaker 1: field when they lost to Dallas, they got they all
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  Speaker 1: got to wave him off the field, and here was
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  Speaker 1: not that type of experience. So when when Brady left here,
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  Speaker 1: like right after, who are you mad at? I was
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  Speaker 1: mad at everybody I was mad at everybody for getting
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  Speaker 1: to that point now in this instance, right now, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm mad at him for something that he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't done yet necessarily, but I I had to endure.
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  Speaker 1: It's so difficult for me. I had to. I as
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  Speaker 1: a b I've always been ting. I've I've always been
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  Speaker 1: so grateful for Tom that I was never. I never
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  Speaker 1: resented him leaving. That's all I want, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: never I was happy for him. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: more a super Bowl. I think I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: great for him. I think it was because I like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's more the fact that like when he's selling like
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  Speaker 1: Brady like retirement stuff now and by the way, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Comfortable Fresh produce. Yeah, there's a T shirt
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  Speaker 1: that he's selling on TB twelve and the t shirt
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  Speaker 1: is half Tampa half Patriots. Yeah. I hate that. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is just a gut punch, and this
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  Speaker 1: is just a slap in the face to all the
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  Speaker 1: fans don't want to either, right, Like, who wants that?
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  Speaker 1: I tweeted out when you're retirednced it. I am in
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  Speaker 1: this chair right now because of Tom Brady. Because I
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  Speaker 1: never would have fell in love with football if it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't for him, So for me, I like, he broke
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  Speaker 1: my heart. Now you got to come back and and
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  Speaker 1: and do some cleanup. Tom. I know, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: part of for Ever and two was like I gotta
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: watch I gotta breakdown Cam Newton's tape. Now I gotta
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  Speaker 1: go from watching Tom cam Newton. But you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, like what wouldn't at me? What
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  Speaker 1: would Brady want? First of all, I think he's doing
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  Speaker 1: all that Tampa stuff because I think he genuinely appreciated
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  Speaker 1: them giving him that opportunity. You know, you want to
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  Speaker 1: be where you wanted, you're you're wanted. And I think
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  Speaker 1: he'll always be grateful to them for taking him on
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  Speaker 1: and paying him real money and giving him the latitude
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  Speaker 1: to do what he did there. I think he'll always
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  Speaker 1: be grateful. And I don't think he ever wants them
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  Speaker 1: to think he's gonna forget that. So that's one thing.
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  Speaker 1: But then I was thinking about him, like what does
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  Speaker 1: he want to do with us? And you know, the
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  Speaker 1: whole one day contract and everything, and like if I'm
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, like I could understand him saying, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be anybody's person. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady going forward. Nope, I know, I'll just let
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  Speaker 1: me finish. I'm gonna be Tom Brady going forward. And
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  Speaker 1: whether it's in the Fox booth or or whatever, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be known as Tom Brady period, end
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  Speaker 1: of story. Not Tom Brady the Patriot, Tom Brady the buccaneer,
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  Speaker 1: just Tom Brady. And I can understand him like having
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  Speaker 1: that strategy. I hope he doesn't, but I can understand that.
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  Speaker 1: I could see from that perspective him shunning a one
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  Speaker 1: day contract like and I don't think that that's a stretch,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think he probably would shun Yeah, one day contract.
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  Speaker 1: I just struggled to say, like, Tom, come back, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a big day for you, like I think
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  Speaker 1: he would be. I would hope he would do that.
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  Speaker 1: I would hope he would do that. Yeah. I just
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  Speaker 1: think when he left, and look, at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, his relationship with Belichick, his relationship with the
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  Speaker 1: organization and the people in these walls is more important
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  Speaker 1: than the fans. I personally don't think that he gave
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  Speaker 1: enough credence to the fans that poured a lot of
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  Speaker 1: their energy into the team for twenty years and supported
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  Speaker 1: him even he was just a sixth round draft pick
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  Speaker 1: out of Michigan in two thousand and one, and we
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  Speaker 1: all jumped on his bandwagon then and then continued obviously
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  Speaker 1: for twenty great years. I think that the coming back,
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  Speaker 1: for the ceremony and things like that, that's for. That's
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  Speaker 1: for us, right, Like that's for the fans. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with how it the divorce happened with
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  Speaker 1: Bill or how it happened with mister kraftl Like, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's for That's for the fans that just spent every
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  Speaker 1: single Sunday on their couch or in the stadium, named
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  Speaker 1: their children after named their dogs, named their children. That
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  Speaker 1: are all all like for for this guy. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if the way that he left in Tampa
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  Speaker 1: when he went to Tampa and then the way that
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  Speaker 1: he's at times carried himself over the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: I don't personally feel like he has given enough credence
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  Speaker 1: to that, like he's given enough two fans, ye I
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  Speaker 1: and I agree, And I he's got an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: to write that ship and to do it when his
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  Speaker 1: retirement last year. I wasn't. I didn't care that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention the Patriots because of Belichick and mister Kraft.
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  Speaker 1: He should have mentioned the Patriots because of the fans.
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  Speaker 1: He should have mentioned the pain that his Patriot career
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  Speaker 1: because of of us, because because ultimately that that was
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  Speaker 1: all that we were looking for. I don't need him
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  Speaker 1: to go on, let's go with Bill Belichick and gosh
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  Speaker 1: about how great Bill is. Like, I don't care, but
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: how did you feel about him in twenty nineteen though,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: because it kind of felt like he was like were
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you starting to get mad at on that season? Because
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: it felt like he was like, oh yeah, but you
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like like two thousand and four,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. When he walked off the field against the Titans,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I think we all kind of knew it was clearly
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the last day. I mean, that wasna I made. It
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't a moment I made. Go to that game. I said,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this is the last game he's gonna play for as
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: a Patriot. I want you guys to be there that
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: they got me. Unfortunately it didn't end the way. I mean,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think any any of us really came that
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: night expecting Tennessee to win that game. I certainly didn't.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance, but I didn't think
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: it would happen. Right. I wanted them to see his
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: last game at Gillette. Yeah, well, at in twenty nineteen.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I understood his frustrations because I was watching the same
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: film he was watching. Not in the same level, but
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I was watching the same stuff that he was watching,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: and they were clearly not a super Bowl team that year.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: They clearly had way too many deficiencies, especially on offense,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and then the defense ended up not being for real either,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: so the team wasn't good enough. So I understood why
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: in his eyes, I know what it looks like to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: be a super Bowl team and we're nowhere close to it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So I could tell that that frustration was brewing. But
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: now that it's all over all, I just think that
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: last night the podcast annoyed me because I don't need
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Bill and Brady to be friends. I don't care if
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: they make up. I don't care if they're best of friends.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they love each other. I don't
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: care if they have admiration for each other. It's it
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't even matter at this point. What matters is what
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: happens with the fans from this point. Yeah, I mean
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to me it matters a little bit more obviously than
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you because it just to me it speaks to his mindset.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: So like if if he hate, if he truly hates Belichick,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: there's less chance of him doing anything while Belichick is here,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you know. So it's it makes me feel better to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: know that, you know, bygones have been are bygones with them,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and the same with Robert Kraft if there were any,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And then that opens the door to what we really want,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is an ability for us to be with him, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: because you kind of those two guys are the gatekeepers
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: really yea, yeah, you know. Yeah, so Paul's just smirking.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care about it. I'm just proud. Yeah, you
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to be in denial, but I got you guys
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to hear your grievances. That was good, Like that was good. Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If have brievances, just take the dove
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: on me. Yeah I have. I am let him go.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He's angry, have been since? Are you angry with me? No? No? No, no, okay,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: so what so what do we he's angry, He's not
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: angry with me. People helpe me and explain to Fred
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that his mindset is one different than Dan Evans, or
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: is it. I think you guys are agreeing and disagreeing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: That's well, that's the essence. That's when he made that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: announcement last year and left the Patriots out of it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: That was it for me. I was like, I don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: need you to thank and you would kissing. I don't
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: think you don't need to thank Belichick. You don't need
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to thank mister Kraft, thank the thank us, like thank
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the fans. They don't even thank us. You don't even
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: have to thank us. We have to thank you, but like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: just acknowledge that the Patriot fans. Yeah, and he totally
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: dropped the ball on that, and then he kind of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: dropped the ball again on the on all of this too.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And now I just I have no time for it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: He can come back and make it up to me though, Okay,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: all right, wow, so Evanden's leaving the door open. Yes, yes, yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he won't object. It won't object. I did watch for
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the first time since I was actually at the event
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that the Brady Night yesterday. It was nineteen ninety not
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Brady Bird Larry Bird Knight nineteen ninety three, and you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: going back, like you know, sometimes when you're watching old movie,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really hold up with time it was. It
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: was had that old timey feeling to it, so you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but it was still major tingle, like you know, having
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: lived through all that, it was a great night. They
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: did it right, and I hope that the Patriots are
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: able to do something like that for for that's what
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we'll look for, Brady, you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and anything you clocked though this time, well, I don't
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: know if they'd be able to do it exactly like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: but what they did for you know, he Bird won
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: three championships with the Celtics, so they went through time
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: time and they had little video that they had accompanying
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: each championship, and after each video, they brought members of
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: that team onto the stage. So they showed the video
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: of the year. Then they brought the players on to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: talk about that version, you know, that edition of the Celtics,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and that was cool. And then of course you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: bringing back Magic Johnson that was a big portion of that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't you know, like I knew
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: people at the time knew that they were friends, but
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how close they really were.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You know, they were really close, and so that was
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a big portion of the night. And like people just
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: went nuts. They just went nuts. You know. That was great.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: And then you know read r back coming up his mother,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, she got like a three minute standing ovation
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like thank you for bringing him into the world, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: everybody was just like going nuts for his mother. Yeah,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, then they had the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: video people you know, people that couldn't be there on video,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and it was just it was just awesome. What if
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they did holograms? Like, I know, it's time we talk
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: about this, we get new ideas. But like and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: had said, like what if you put videos to the place,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Like what if you could actually get a company that
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: could do holograms on the field of plays and so
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you could actually make it appear like all on the table.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I thought the Tom Brady Knight's Ba's been crushing it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, I just think that you
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: have to do the Fred and I have been lockstep
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on this since the day, like the moment he retired,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Like I went right up to Fred and we were
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly what we were going to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: do from a content standpoint that day, but we immediately
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: started talking about Larry Bird Knight. Yeah, and we're not
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: splitting the Adam. We're not the first ones that came
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: up with we should probably do something like I'm not
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: trying to make it out to me like that, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it is just this is different than the other guys
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that are going in your team's hall of fame and
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: eventually Canton, Like I understand that Canton can't waive the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: five year period, but we can wave the four year period.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And this is not something that we're doing at the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: half time of the Kansas City Chiefs game the way
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on Twitter have suggested. These are
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the kinds of ideas that have to separate it. Now.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: It's all contingent and this gets back to Evans bitterness.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's all contingent on Tom agreeing to come back and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: do it. I can't imagine he wouldn't. I think Larry Bird,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways was extremely similar to Tom
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Brady in that regard and not really interested in doing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: any of those things. But he did it, and I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: think that I think that Tom would too, and the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: other thing that stuck out of a Bird night to me,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and I didn't realize it at the time, but after
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: watching it, it was apparent Bird prepared for this, Like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: not that he was reading off a teleprompter, but there
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: were certain questions that Bob cost Has asked them that
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: he had wood he answers for, and it was obvious
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that they weren't made up in the moment like he had.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So we won't get Jim Gray like he was given
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the questions and helped with answers and he delivered them naturally, right,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But that's why we need to eliminate Jim Gray from
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But but you know, Larry doesn't want that. Larry was
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a time unassuming guy. He wasn't a guy that you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was a me guy. But like this was a special
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: night for him and he put in time to prepare
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: for it. That that kind of stood out any research
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: into other what like what do the Lakers do for Kobe?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You know, like like or what did the Bulls do
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for Jordan? Just do what did other Alex your basketball person?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember Kobe's last game and just
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: scoring a crazy amount of points. But for some reason,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm struggling to kind of remember anything, like, I mean,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I should probably know because I lived out there probably
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, I think they had him addressing
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the crowd and stuff. I don't really remember what. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: don't know what the bulls did George Jordan, I mean,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we should google. I don't know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: google it. Google it. So along with the ceremony, you
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: gotta have a statue I think, right, and you in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the plaza, right, and a number twelve inside the bowls
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: somewhere right, I would say, with the with the banners
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: so at you outside, how we talked it all about
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: what what pose he's gonna be in or anything like that,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: because I love the one with his hands on his
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: head from two thousand and one, Like that's personally my
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: my favorite. But I don't know that that's very young
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I don't know if he would want one differently.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I like that one too, Yeah, I like that or
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the other one. It might have been fourteen when he's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: holding up the trophy and he's like that was special
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to him because of all the crap that he went through.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So no one just wants him with that classic sitting
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: in the pocket with the ball just perfect, like he
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: had the statuesque pose on the field. Why not I
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: like that just duplicated. I don't know, but that's something
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that every quarterback does, Like holding holding that trophy is iconic. Yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that's the picture I think of him holding the Lombardi
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: or the hands on the air. That's iconic to him. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: shaking his head with his sisters. I I mean, I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: don't think we're going in the direction of a Belichick
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and Brady. I was like at them, But there's a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: great shot of them right after the O six San
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Diego upset out there that like they just kind of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: met on the field and it was kind of like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a quick like can shake between the two of them.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Is that exists out there? One of my favorite kind
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of shots of them, you know, and another one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: their iconic wins. But I don't know. I guess Tom
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: will probably get the first bust out there. You know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: when you think of statues, like I think of you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium where they had Monument Park or whatever they
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: called it back there. Um, you know, I think that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the iconic. Yeah, we were just in Jim Brown statue
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is right outside Paul Brown or an Indy. They have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: a Peyton Manning statue outside Lucas and they have a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: bunch of statues now behind Fenway Park. Uh oh, I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, it's like kind of like a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: kind of a weird place to put him in. It
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: faces like the train tracks, Like well, yeah, it's a dump. Yeah. Um,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you know I actually walked by them like a couple
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of years ago, Like I didn't even know these right here?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Who do they? What is it? Like? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it's all the retired number players. Yeah, so I don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: think they should have done that something Teddy Yeah. Um,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: but you know, do you do you do? Do you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: have the foresight to put the Brady statue where you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: will put the Belichick statue and the Craft statue and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: create your own little monument. I think it makes sense
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to at least think of it ahead of time, even
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: if they're not going to be the same statues to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: how are we going to arrange this and who is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: actually going to get I mean you mentioned mister Kraft
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: getting a statue, Sure you know, plan for three then?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And how will they kind of maybe they're all made
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: by the same artist, Maybe they're you know, and maybe
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you have fans vote on moments like you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: this this picture of a bit like what should be
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the you know, what should be the time. I'd love
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to hear what the fans say. I mean, that's just
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know Paul's point about just perfect in the pocket,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you know, having his hands on his heads to his
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: family after we won the first Super Bowl. I mean,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: there's so many moments that that that you were probably
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: not even thinking of that that could potentially work. Yeah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: so that's the Brady stuff. Maybe we can get that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: guy that did the MLK tribute, No, I can get
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: somebody embrace. What about the Christiano Ronaldo? So I don't know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but after that, after that, I was scared after that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Brady post for his underwek maybe he'd like that kind
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of all. We could do the guy remember remember the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: court sketch of Brady. Yeah, hearing, maybe we can get
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that guy. Somebody said that that's what the statue should
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: look like. That looked nothing because his last year he
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: looked more like that. Yeah, you know, yeah, I like it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Good times all right. Yeah, so there's a lot to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: think about when it comes to Brady time before Can
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: we move on a little because I'm curious to get
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: some of Evan's thoughts on you know, we talked last
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: week about the coaches being in Vegas at the Shrine
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Bowl and uh, you know, Troy Brown was the acting
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: head coach, but just your overall thoughts on the Patriots
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: coaching staff of being in Vegas and you know what
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that experience was like, Well, it was really cool. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: had never been to the Senior Bowl or the Shrine
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Bowl or anything like that, and I think the coolest
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: part for me is that, unlike in training camp, here
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you can stand right on the sideline and you're just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: standing right on the sideline and you know, I was
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: watching practice at one point in Macro and Elliott Wolf
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and they're They're all just standing ten yards away from
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: me watching the same thing that I'm watching, which was
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: really cool. I don't think you ever really get to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to interact or even you know, in the same area
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: as Macro most of the time the way they handle him,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So it's it's cool to that was a cool experience.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest standout from the coaching staff was well,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: first of all, the Shrine Bowl wanted the Patriots to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: coach this game badly, when they decided to go full
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: staffs because of Bill. They wanted they wanted that publicity
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of having Bill out there, and he didn't disappoint. I mean,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: he would just he would just walk right on the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: field and just interject himself into the drill, like the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: drill would be going on and you know, they would
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: be doing whatever, and he would just walk on the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: field and he would just be like this is we're
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: not doing this, like we need to do this better,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: or we're doing this or we're not doing that or whatever.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And then he would watch the drill basically in the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: play like he would be standing and guys would be
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: flying basically like a referee, like doesn't you know, get
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: out of the way type of thing, which was really cool.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: The other thing that I would mention was the very
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: first day it felt on purpose how involved Bill O'Brien was.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Like he came out there that first day and he
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was right out in everybody's faces, coaching up the quarterbacks
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and the receivers, barking out orders, barking out coaching tips
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and things like that. And you know, we took the cheese,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: we took the bay. We're like this is great, Like
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's back. This is cool, and he was the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: right front and center. Now he didn't come out for
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of the practices, but that very first practice,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it was it was the Bill and Bill show, like
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the two of them. Just watching them were and how
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: involved they were was was pretty cool. And we should
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: add that there have been I think since the last
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: time on Thursday, two additions to the coaching staff. Right,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't have that Will Will Longing. He wasn't well,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think anything, No, not officially. Um. So he's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a guy that had spent time with with Bill O'Brien
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and had been a tight Ends coach. And since Nick
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Kyley has officially left, Yeah he's going. He took the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: same job with the Rams, So I think it's probably
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: safe to assume that Will Lawing will is it Longing? That, Um,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he will be probably the tight Ends coach. And then
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: reports yesterday indicate that Adrian Clem in fact will be
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the offensive line like they're talking to him Adrian Clem.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean O'Brien's filling out his staff. Um,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you know, no word about wide receivers. So we can
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: only assume that Troy Brown will stay as the wide
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: receiver coach. Um. Yeah, And there was also Karen's report
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that Gerardmeo might not necessarily have a That one was
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I think you did read on off the tweet while
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we were Yeah, I think you you updated us with you,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you know, And I was thinking about that one, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: people just said, well, why aren't they giving him a title?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't he ask for a type? Maybe he doesn't want
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: a title because that gives him unfettered ability to you know, um,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: interview for any job, right, whether it's a a DC
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever. If he doesn't have a title, he can
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: leave at any time for any job, and an assistant
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: head coach title doesn't matter, right, Like it's it's like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that doesn't qualify. It's if you're an offensive coordinat or
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: defensive coordina or head coach. Those are the three, right
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the count in terms of if you're going to go
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: somewhere else an interview for another job, what you're able
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, So let's not assume that it wasn't
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Gerard Mayo's choice to not have a title. I would
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I would assume it wasn't that. But yeah, you're right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: we spent like the better part of the last couple
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of years when Girard Mayo's name has been bandied about
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: for potential head coaching opportunities, and we've asked a question, so,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: what is exactly is it that you do? Right, And
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: now he's the one who didn't want to clarify that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: he was responsible for doing anything like I don't think
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that's realistic. I think more than likely for whatever reason
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they're setting it up the way they're going to set
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it up. I don't think it's because Gerard Mayo said no,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I don't want to be the defensive
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: coordinator or I don't want to be the assistant head coach.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: If that in fact is true, we'll see. We haven't
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: seen that. The new titles. Maybe he is going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: have a different title than what is inside linebackers coach, right,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: maybe he will have a different title than he did
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: last year. We haven't we haven't seen any of that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: information yet officially. Yea, so things are kind of rounding
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: out in the coaching staff. Who's going to be the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: running backs coach? He'll continue doing that, Okay, actually did
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job of the offensive lineman at the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. That so some of the people that I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: was talking to you out there, that wasn't exactly the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: most talented group of offensive linemen on the West team,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and they ended up actually doing a pretty good job
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in practice in the game. What was Russ Douglas's role
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? Okay, yeah, yep, him and and I thought
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: we did a lot of that the sound that we
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: got from you know, wiring them up and stuff like that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I thought some of the videos that came out about
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: him and that actually came out about Brian Belichick made
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: made those two guys look pretty dark and good at
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what they do. And I think there's a lot of questions,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: especially with with Brian, about you know, his coaching acumen
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, what his role is on the staff.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I think that he came off pretty pretty good
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to the people that I spoke with, you know, the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: players and things like that that I spoke with. Pellegrino
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: had a pretty good week too, I mean, his defense
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: did pretty well in the game and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the West team one the Patriots one. Patriots they did
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and uh, they we can get into the prospects. I'm
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: sure that we will for matter for months and months.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But the star of the game was the kicker, Jake
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Moody from Michigan, who was who was the kicker of
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the year in college football in twenty twenty one, and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: he made two fifty one yard field goals in the game,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: kicked off, had a couple of touchbacks. He is the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: real deal. He's going to be drafted. He's probably gonna
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: be the top kicker drafted. And after the show that
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: he put on all week in Vegas, it wouldn't shock me, okay,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: all right? And then Pro Bowl we have a lot
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of content up there on our various accounts with Matt
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Judon miked up. He actually had the camera strapped to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: his chest so running around. But it was the Matt
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Judon show for the Patriots out in the Pro Bowl. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't got I didn't watch a second. I'm sorry,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I really didn't. You didn't watch a second. Not a second.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I watched enough flag football game to see Tyreek Hill
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: get laid out by Jalen Ramsey. That was about it. Though.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: This is the portion of the show where I figured
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you were gonna finger wagged me. If you're not having
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: seen the second of any of the pro longest drive. No,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: but I did you know what I did notice, which
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I thought was highly comical. So they had the flag
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: football game on Sunday. Yeah, do you know that you
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: know the stats service NFL? Jesus, do you know they
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: fashioned a complete gamebook for the for the flag football
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that right? Oh? Yeah. I had to go look at
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it when he told me that, and I said, You're
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: not gonna believe this. Like I was on I was,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I was categories Ficus. I was on the site like
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: looking up some stats and stuff because I was doing
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: NFL awards, And I looked at the game book and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, you can't really be a game book, right,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So I click on it. Sure enough starters. More importantly,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Paul was there a line? Was there betting I'm not aware?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Freddy? I, Uh, this was on my
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: pay no mind list. I didn't see any of it. Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I turned it on briefly, and uh, I can't remember
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the rap duo's name that was like popular like three
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: years ago. That was maybe ox heal you out? That
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: was oh Man, I'll remember Yeah's two guys. I turned
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it and I turned definitely not me I turned it on. No, no,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'll look it up in a second. I turned it
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: on and I was like, first of all, these guys
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: aren't even like this isn't this isn't relevant right now,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and like we're three years behind. And second of all,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: like they're showing like all the players and like you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: they're kind of like trying to like, you know, dance
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a little not like dance dance, but they're like watching
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the concert as it's going on. And that was the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: whole thing, is oh, watch Trevor Lawrence like you know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: break it down or whatever. And I was just like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: this is just terrible. I couldn't playdn't play. Wheezy would
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: have shut the place. Yeah, that's yeah. He seems like
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he's got real star power still right. Oh yeah, he's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: touring again. I'm trying to go. I'm going I'm trying
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to go to the garden Um, trying to trying. All right,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: next stup for us will be the Combine. Yeah, start
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: preparing for that. Let's go. Yeah, excited to get back,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: all right? Soight five five past five hundred is the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: ACE ticket hot line. Web radio at Patriots dot com
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: is the email address. There is one email I wanted
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to get to. This is from somebody. His name is
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Laboreo and he says he's done with us. Oh yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I love these. Listen to your podcast from January twelve.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Besides five of you cons talking at once, I believe
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: fred mentioned he was upset about people being mean to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: poor Matt Patricia. Ooh, he took a job and did
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it to the best of his abilities. I'm so done
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: with you guys. You have condescending perillo. You constantly take
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a stance different than everyone else. You put fans down
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like their uneducated morons. No, fred No, Freddy took it
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: because he's so cocky. He thought he could do it
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and be the old line coach. I guess you've never
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: heard recordings of how Patricia and Judge spoke to players.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I guess you've never seen tweets from Detroit players at
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the Patricia was five. He's not a nice guy. He's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not a players coach. So next time you want to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: rip everyone for ripping and know it all jerk, do
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: your homework done with your show. And I know a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: lot of other people aren't happy. Thank God for Baard,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Felger and Murray, who actually do research. Before opening their mouth.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Somewhere Felger and Murray are laughing their ass off notion
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of them doing Yeah, I just thought, I just thought
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I got that one out there. I find that. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: find that really funny that that, of all people, Fred
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is the one that pushed someone over the edge. Like
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: everything he said about me is probably largely and I'm
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: not being self deprecant, it's largely true. Like I do
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: come off as condescending and I don't really have much
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: use for most of the fans like thoughts. But Fred
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Fred had one thing to say, trying to defend manetricia,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and that's what puts you over the edge. That was it? Yeah,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that was I uh. And Kamani writes in about Michael
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Jordan's he says it was total bs their retirement ceremony.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: They brought out a bunch of celebrities and actors to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: pay tribute to him. It was the exact opposite of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Larry Birds. So I don't remember it. I would rather yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I would rather not get into that, Like do you
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: remember was it after the Atlanta one? No? Which which
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: one was it? That? Like he's looking at him as like, uh,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: maybe it was the Maybe it was the Rams Super Bowl,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and like Wahlberg is stuck at Brady, like not the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: one he left. He's a little kid, you know, It's like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: you know, no, that was the best. No, yeah, the best.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Like I would rather do without that kind of fan
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: boy fawning. I'd rather have the the players that he
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: played with and against and and when I say against,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about anybody. I'm talking about like Peyton,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Ray Lewis you know any read Charles Woodson, Christs.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Could we get Chris Evans as Captain America to kick
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it off? Brady has a bigger name than all of
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: them right at this point. But do we really want
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: to hear from Matt Damon? That's what I'm saying. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: have no personally, I have no interesting Well maybe if
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I can't get it with Chris Evans, we're not getting her.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, Chris Evans, you got me. I just
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: think Tom's the bigger name. So it would just feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like the fact that they did that for Jordan is
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: so strange too. That's what he ran in though. Those
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: are the circles, you know, the Arcineo Hall and the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Amadra Shard and all those like Hollywood, like fringe Hollywood types.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: That's where that's where he was. All the people that
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: heo's money to golf probably probably right, Fred Neil and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: new Brunswick. Evan. He says life is too short. I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: listened to the podcast this is talking about Belichick and Brady.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really good. And to Fred's point,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it was good about good memories. Only we've all quit
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a job for certain reasons, probably negative ones. We might
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: go back and visit and play nice. It doesn't mean
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to my old job back. Take Evan, take
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a walk over to the trophy case. Look at the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: six Lombardies. That's what Brady gave you. He owes us nothing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: If he shows up for Tom Brady Appreciation Night, great,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't, great if he doesn't, that's your opinion.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, if he doesn't, it's probably not going to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: be a tombration. Would be like one of those Broadway
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: shows playing the role of Tom Brady tonight. We'll get you.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: That's when you guys want him to tell me that's it,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Yeah, it's professional. Can't you want
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: can't you just fake it? Just exactly like you don't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: even have to mean it deep down, like he didn't
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: mean happen things he said. I like that email. I like,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I like that email. That's kind of how I feel.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we don't need to not have
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a Tom Brady appreciation night if he refuses to come
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to it. But yeah, I kind of feel like that
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: with with Tom, Like I think you do two friends.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I just think it's two separate buckets, right, Like I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: can be I am a mac more than appreciative of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the six Super Bowls and everything that he did as
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a player here. That doesn't mean that I have to
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like how it ends it or how it's gone since
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: since he's left. Like that, I think I want to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: hear Capello right now. I'm dying. I know what he's saying.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I could just look at his face and know this
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: like venom spewing from everywhere. He's a walking sports radio
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: show on the road. All right, not a good look.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Five five hut line. Let's go to Patty and agawam.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: What's up? Patty? Hey? Everyone, Hey, hey, I wonder if
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I get a non sequit or to a draft question.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: That's all right, all right, No, that's fine, all right,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I felt. No, never mind, I'm gonna
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be I'm gonna be nice. God. And to the emailer
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that called Paul condescending and that he hates the fans,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping this question might kind of make your head explode. Paul. Okay,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I know you love Draft and I know you love
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: O line talk. So um, just a quick scenario and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I'll give my reasonings behind the scenario. With two, are
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the top three tackles are off board when the Texans
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: pick at number twelve? Did you see them possibly trading
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: up for one of the top three left tackles? Because
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I think if if two of the guys are gone,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I think that Jets, You're gonna have to leak front
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: the Jets because I see them wanting to take a
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: tackle this here. Can I tee you up? Evan, I'm
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: gonna TV. I'm gonna tvn up because I feel like,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: personally my film with the Draft is those three tackles
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: with with Broderick Jones, Paris Johnson and Scronsky and those
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: three guys western as I call, are left tackles. You know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are some questions about Scronsky,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a great question which one of
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: those three is going to be there, because I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: know right now if there's a wide receiver or cornerback
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: that you really say, wow, if you got him at fourteen,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you're really getting a steal. With one of those guys,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you might say we're getting a steel right at fourteen,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's a fit. That's just my view.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I'll let definitely then I'm not as eager to trade
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: up for one of them because I think this is
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a really good tackle class and I think in the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: top fifty we're probably talking about six or seven guys
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: that could start in day one for you. So are
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you giving up the ass? Is? I guess the better
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: way to put it to use names, is Scronsky so
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: much better than Dwan Jones from Ohio State that I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: giving up capital to get Scronsky instead of just waiting
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: on Dwan Jones Right? And Dwan Jones probably be somebody
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: that goes early day two. So am I am I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: giving up the assets to the leap froga team or
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: get up to twelve or whatever the case may be.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: How much better is Scronsky than Dwan Jones? Darnell Right
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee. I thought I had a great Senior Bowl week.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Jalen Duncans from Maryland's another guy that people really like.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: How much better is he? I'm not sure that it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that the gap is that big that I'm saying I
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: need to come away with one of these guys. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like the I like the question though, because I do
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: feel like that that's a that's a controversial position to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: move up for. I kind of agree with Evan's mindset
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: with tackle and taking you know, on top of that
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the depth of the class, like he explained. So yeah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a it's a fair point.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: What does it cost you to go from fourteen to twelve?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Though in Patty's specific hypothetical, I don't think it depends.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I guess on who's are you bidding for that that pick?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And I think a big part of it too. So
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: if the Texans are back up at twelve, they've already
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: taken their quarterback probably at the top of the draft.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So is Will Levis or Anthony Richardson still sitting there
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden they're selling that pick
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to somebody that wants to move up for a quarterback.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I just think it can get really expensive very quick.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Then you don't have to do it. Though, If that's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen, well, he's saying that the Jets
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: are the team that he wants to leave frog. Oh
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: all right, I see what you're saying, right, I mean,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is that the Jets definitely going to take a tackle?
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I think my other part of
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: this is philosophically. You know, you mentioned to one Jones
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: on the right side, monstrous guy, like, what is the
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you know, are we left tackle right tackle? Is that
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: still a huge difference? And what are the Patriots team? More?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Is Trump Brown gonna stay? Is he gonna stay on
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the left? Is he going to go back to the right.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions in there that I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: just wonder you have that though if he does stay,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you do have that flexibility that you can draft whatever
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: tackle you're like the best because you don't have to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: worry about And that's a's point. I think you get
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: into the lower rounds, you're getting right tackle guys that
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: are probably going to step right in and play for you.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So it's just I think these are interesting conversations and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, even the top ranked tackles,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: A lot of those guys step in and play the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: right side. Initially, yeah, you know some of them. You know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think Slater immediately, but you know, I think Sewell
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: play the right. So yeah, there's not Slater immediately played
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the left, but that doesn't happen all the time. So
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: there's not a ton of natural left tackles. Other than
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: there's Roderick Jones, There's Paris Johnson, There's Duncan from Maryland
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: if you think that he's going to be a left tackle,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and there's Harrison from Oklahoma. Those are like the three
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: guys that have the athleticism to play on the left side.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: The guys that I think that fit better for the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Patriots are actually the right tackle prospects. Dwan Jones is
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a Trent Brown clone. He's six eight, three hundred and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: eighty pounds. He's an absolute monster. Darnell Right from UH
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Tennessee is six five, three forty So you're talking about bigger,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: bulldozing type of players, which they typically play on the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: right side. They don't usually put those guys on the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: left side. So I just think that those are the
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: guys that I look at those two in particular, where
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I say, if you draft Dawan Jones from Ohio State,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: he's your day one starting right tackle. He fits the mold,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: He does exactly what they want them to do on
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the right side. And then all of a sudden you
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: get into the permitter of him and Mike on Winner
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: next to each other, like you want to run it
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: in on the goal line, like you have four hundred,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you know, seven hundred pounds of human on the right
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: side of your line now to bulldoze people. So that's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: where I'm at. Thanks, Patty. Uh. Go to William and Phillham.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: What's up? William? Hey? What's going on? Ready? How are
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you doing? Okay? All right, I'm gonna make me feel
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. But I understand how you feel
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit. You know. I didn't want Tom Brady
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Levison though, but I also feel like Tom don't owe
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: us anything. Man. I mean, I'm happy just, you know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to be in that era. Was that I got to
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: see him you play for our team and won six
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: people Bowls and all now the way he the way
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: things ended in twenty nineteen, you know, I didn't like that,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm gonna be a little pushed back.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: As far as you saying the pictures would do anything,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: as far as the roster, I would disagree with that.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: They didn't go get him a Mike Evers, Chris Godwin
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: or you know what I mean. They didn't get those
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: things right then. I think that was maybe a piece
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of a reason. I'm not saying that's the main thing,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: because that's what it was, and that's something else. But
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I just think it's other things that was going on.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: And also with Rock and Craft saying that well Tom
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: wanted to be here, will be here, Well I had
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to be there. I us just say make an Apple series.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: They come happy, get him what he wanted. He is
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. And you want to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: man with somebody even though even though I have no
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: problem with this person on staff and I love dude,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I love Due and Death, but dudes wanted him out. Okay,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that's true. Can't argue people forget that it did. I did.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I was campaigning for Okay, So the whole roster thing though,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the whole roster thing though, well, what did the who
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: did the Patriots trade for? In the twenty seventeen offseason,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Christ traded for a pretty good wide receiver, all right.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: When Brady wanted Antonio Brown, what did they do? They
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: brought in Antonio Brown didn't work out and out, but
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: that's he wanted him just as badly as the as
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: they did. Like it's it's you can't so I don't
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: do you include Flash Gordon in that? Trying to sure
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: sure if you if he comes back in twenty twenty,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I am sure that they maybe doesn't work out like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of the misses that they've had at skill positions.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: But I guarantee you that they would have brought in
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: somebody of some name val value into the offense in
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty if they still had Brady. The reason why
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: they didn't make any changes to the roster in twenty
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: twenty is because they were resetting because they didn't have
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Brady anymore. If he comes back and you're pushing the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: chips all back into the middle of the pile, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: think it's a totally different story. I would like to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: know what Brady thought it to kill when, like when
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: that was percolating, when the was made, you know, how
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: involved was he with him? And he said as much
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that you know, like it was I think more than
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: just intimations that this guy doesn't practice hard, he doesn't
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: work hard, he doesn't have the work ethic, right, Paul,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: he's not even paying attention. I just want to say
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. Evidently you know I'm with you.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm gonna till Brady. I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: gonna tat man down the heart. But I'm with you, man.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: You know, but he'll come back. Man, I come begging
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the pictures, so you know I'll leave it that dack.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Y'all have a nice day, all right, thanks. I mean,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: if there's any you know, place where they should be,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: you know, buying the Brady clothes, it would be New England, right,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: So he's got a business interest here too. You gotta
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: think like big picture, like who's gonna buy the half brand?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there just general Tom Brady fan who
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: lives in Arizona, you know, like who it doesn't really
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: care for the teams, but I mean I do separate ones.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: You know, you'd have a Tampa marketing, you have New
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: England marketing. But that that post he did yesterday for
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the end of Underwear? Did you see that? What was that?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Keep popping up? I can't get it away. I need there.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Mike's getting all uncomfortable over those. I just I guess
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I missed another one. I'd like nobody here has seen
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: eighty for Brady? Right, and anybody you know what's so funny?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember on the show last week we were
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: talking who the hell is that demographic? Who's the negotiat?
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I went to Costco that night and I'm walking by
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a group of four old people at least seven years old,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: talking about how they have plans that night to see
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: eighty for Brady and they're so excited. So he can
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: go for eighty for Brady and you can go on
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the set with Edelman and Gronkowski in Patriot Scared Buddy,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I just bad enough. Glad you did the pot with build.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I'd like to get some spoilers from it the show
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: really rethinking that now I've been going on for a while,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'd like to hear some reviews of this of this film.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody that I trusted. I heard somebody
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: told me that it's exactly what you think. Oh yeah,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's if you go in thinking it's gonna be
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: this monitor but that but like, what is that like?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Is that horrifically bad? It's because that's what I would think.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: It's nostalgia, it's it's it's kind of cool for like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I heard I heard, if you take it for what
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: it is, it's not that right. I don't know how
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you could take it for anything more than what you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: sort of shock right right of them bang ronk. That's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: why I feel like that's one of them is a sexpot.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like, right, one of the characters. Yeah, there's
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: one that there's Jane Fonda is probably blanched right. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that sounds I think that's about right. Yeah, but I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: will not be going to see that. What about I'll
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: watch it if I'll throw it on fast forward to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: just the scenes. I'm sure it's mostly just filler to
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. Will I ever see it? Because
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: we come on, right, it'll come on like some movie
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: channel at some point, Deuce is gonna have to do
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: it right up about it? We Night and Alex Andy
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and I we used to joke around about that when
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: we first started doing the preseason games, and we were
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the Muppets and we were Stabbler and Waldorf, and we
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: we sort of toyed Fred Toyd with the idea of
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: like that what is the Mystery Science Theater? Yeah, where
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you know it's me and Andy and like two aliens,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like just watching a movie, you know, just
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: sort of heads way too big for that. That would
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: be one of the aliens, like a total eclipse, Giant
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Ricardo writes in the statue himself to sleep tonight, huge, Huge,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I went with Giant Ricardo says, the statue we make
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: for Bill should be the meme of him walking like
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: a villain during the Detroit game, remember that one where
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: people wanted to shake his hand, just part of it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Um see Chris Sims here is on the on the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Show with with Zolak and and he's really cornered the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: market on button and the top button, hasn't he Like
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: that's his thing, Like every time you see Chris Sims,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that's what he's got, the top button nice and tight.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Your utter infatuation with what people are wearing will never
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: cease to amazing, Paul, That's how I am. Like he knew,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: like to watch the pre show on the Grammys in
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the you know what are they wearing? If you watched
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: it for that reason, I would understand it. Like fashion.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: You're not watching it for fashion. You just want to see,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like he, where's that all the time. It's kind of noticeable. Yeah,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: he looks like a Mormon and looks like a fu.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: It just bumps me hard. Did you catch that one too?
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: He looks like a fraud because he is one. Because nasty,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: nasty evans wowaty and this is awesome. I just don't
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: let them discuss, don't let them make fun of you.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: You talk about like you're doing great. This guy just
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: makes crap up daily. Yeah, just just makes crap. I
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. I saw one one of his quotes that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the smoothest operation last year, was his quote
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: about the pages really really he got like speaking of that, um,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: speaking of podcasts and people with hot takes, what did
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you think of Trent Dilfer's take the other day about
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: another guy that old time quarterbacks versus the model? Can
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I just like, can I just first recap the comments? Right? So,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he had talked about he he's not impressed with Brady Rogers,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: loves them, thinks they're great, but not impressed because it's
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: an era where you can't hit the quarterback, you can't
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: reroute receivers. You can't hit anybody over the middle, right. Okay,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: So those are all the things that he said. I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: think we can all agree that not being impressed with
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers is pretty silly. It's pretty silly.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Take ye. Here's the only thing that I sort of
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: like the pushback that I would have on the human
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: cry against Trent Dilfer, like I disagree with his take.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's damn impressive with Tom Brady's done. Sorry,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm you know, what does that make
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the guy said, I'm a contrarian because I always take
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the other side. So I think with Tom Brady is accomplished,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: is pretty impressive. But why is it that Trent Trent
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Dilford can't have that opinion because he sucked? Who said
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people a lot of people have
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: given you Trent Dilford's statistics. I'm saying this is that
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that's not I don't care about that I played. I
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: think Tom Curran wrote something like he played eight years
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: in that era where you could supposedly do that, and
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: these are his numbers, these are I don't think Trent
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Dilfer ever said he was better than Tom Brady. No,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care about how good he was,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: but I like, if you want to have an opinion, Yeah, again,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I disagree with his opinion, but his opinion should be
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: just as valid as anybody else. Shure anybody that watched I.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Just because he sucks doesn't mean he doesn't have an opinion.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah I I That's what made it more weird for me,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: because I kind of value his opinion, you know. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, despite how he played, he wasn't call anybody
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: that Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers is not impressive kind
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of lost. Like you know, we always have that argument
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: about like superstars now versus superstars old days. You know,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: how would the old guys be in today and they
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you know, it wouldn't be as good. Bill Russell wouldn't
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: be as good, you know all that stuff, you know whatever,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: But go reverse, Okay, would Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: have been as good thirty years ago? I can't imagine
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be. You know, like back then it was
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: your pocket pass it right, and it's all had to
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: do with like quick decision making and knowing the like
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: transport game is just so different though, like I'll give
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: you an example, like I don't know if you guys
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: cut any of this over the weekend, you would have Evan,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: but you were away. So like NFL Network just ran
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: like a marathon of the Super Bowl highlight packages. They
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: were like a half hour hour or whatever. There was
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: one of the games I was watching, I think it
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: was twelve Dallas and Denver. There was like four plays
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: in a row they showed like that's there's a bomb
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to Butch Johnson where he dies. It's an iconic play.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: He dives, he rolls over in the end zone, he
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: leaves the ball down and then he gets up, it
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: celebrates and then runs back it picks up the ball.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: There's no way they would call that a catch today.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Then there's like three other plays where a guy catches
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the ball and immediately gets hit, ball pops loose. Same
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: thing with like Minnesota Pittsburgh. There's like a comedy of turnovers,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: every one of which would not have been a turnover today.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Like the game was just officiated differently, played differently. And
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: you know, to Trent Dilfer's point, I think what he's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: trying to say is like Johnny United is out there
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and he's calling every play himself, he's running it, running
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: the entire show. He's getting absolutely killed on half of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: the plays, and his receivers are getting killed on the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: other half, none of which can happen today. The play
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks don't call their own plays. They're not subjected
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: to those hits. Now, Do I think, just like I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: think Johnny Unitieds would adapt today they were to play.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Do I think that Tom Brady and Adam Rodgers were
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: good enough to say, yeah, they probably could have been
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: good even if you were allowed to hit him. Yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I do. That's my point. I think they're special talents.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I think they would have been able to be great
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: regardless of when they play. I mean, and Johnny Unitis
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: would have adapted to this game probably, you know. Not
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: trying to make the point that Dilfer sucks. I just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: found it funny that like the guy who's the shining
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: example that comes up all the time of like the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: one team who did it without an elite quarterback, who
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you know, without an offense that just had such a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: good defense that you know that it came from him.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: That was just for me. It was like, that's kind
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: of weird, Like, but I think the way Paul laid
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it out is correct, and I think I think the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: take was silly. I mean, I couldn't state that anymore clear.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I mean to suggest that Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: not impression, Like you don't think that what they do
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: is different than what all these other guys are doing, Like,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: come on, yeah, not impressed. I don't know who the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: audience was, but it must have been a lot of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: old timers because when he said it, they clapped like
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, yeah, LT was on there. Oh
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: it's not on that Baltimore documentary. I just assume now.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I think I think it was a different thing. I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: think it's like a player's tribune type of thing or
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, so I thought that was interesting anyway. Um,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Ryan writes in he's in Toronto, but he's also in
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Phoenix at the moment, he feels, I feel as though
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: there's only one true way for the Patriots to celebrate Brady,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: to fully capture the Brady Belichick era. Right after the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the Patriots signed Brady to a one day
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: contract to officially end his career with the club, and
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: since he'd still be under contract with the Bucks, the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: league takes away New England's twenty twenty three first round
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: pick for tampering while under contract. You're right, Paul's thirty
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: for thirty Oh it was yeah, Okay, Buffalo bullies. Okay,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Baltimore bullies. Also. M Ryan says he was at the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: media day yesterday in Phoenix and can still attest that
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the least likable team in football. Their
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: name is offensive, they still do the Tomahawk shop. The
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks mannerisms are family are detestable. The tight ends as
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: sharp as a marble Geha field sounds stupid. Every player's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: name sounds like it was created in Madden, and their
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: masket is a wolf that looks like he matriculated his
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: way down a field of opiates. Opiates. Screw them Eagles
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: by ten? Wow? Okay. Do you hate the Chiefs? So
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I know Paul's. Paul's show yesterday was all about why
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: do you hate the Chiefs? I don't. I don't hate
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I don't just getting sick of I don't
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: think hates the right word. But I think the vast
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: majority of Patriots fans will be rooting against the Chiefs,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: so they don't have success. Yeah, but it's I don't
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: think it's necessarily a hatred of the Chiefs have a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: lot of questionable characters on their team. I think a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: few years ago when we were kind of I'm here
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: to tell you that has nothing to do with it personally,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: it was that combined with the fact that they were
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: kind of the last few Brady years, they were like
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: our rivals, So I believe. So I think that I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: don't hate the Chiefs. I really enjoy watching Patrick Mahomes
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: play football, but I hate how Patrick Mahomes is covered
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: as a football player. And it's not his fault, but
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I just I think that the things that get you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: amplified about his game or actually not like what makes
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: him great, like it, you know, right, like the ridiculous
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: off platform It was like, yeah, they're really cool to watch,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: but he has really dominated the game since the jump
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: because of other reasons that have nothing to do with
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: the fact that he can throw off one leg. Those
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: make him fun to watch, absolutely, But I just feel
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: like if we explained to the common fan a little
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: bit more or about what makes him little talk about
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: explain continuing with a very wow. If you if you
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: explain to people there, you go that about what he
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: does ninety nine percent of the time that makes him
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: great instead of the one throw a game that he's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: throwing off one leg and it happens to like fall
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: in complete. As Mike pointed out, it would. I think
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: it would go a lot further to not have such
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes fatigue. Yeah, and if people hate Travis Kelsey,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Travis Kelsey is a hateable guy. Yeah,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: he's He's afore why he's no more of a ya?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Gronk actually knew I loved gron So did you? Oh?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I loved Gronk because he was mine. Everybody loved Gronk.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that a lot of people around the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: league loved in love Gronk. I don't. I don't hate Kelsey.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I hate the ownership group more than I hate Kelsey
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: with you know with I don't think Travis is very likable.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I think his brother's very liable. I couldn't agree more.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I think Jason seems like the greatest guy ever in
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  Speaker 1: Show rubs me the wrong way? I'm out soft football player?
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  Speaker 1: That's not the part that all that's very true. I
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  Speaker 1: just watching him play like the I just he's not
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  Speaker 1: really well rounded enough. He's not he's not a tight end.
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's a it's a wrong thing, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's what And that's what I think that most of
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  Speaker 1: the next thing. And even though everybody laughs about it
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  Speaker 1: in places we don't talk about at parties, like you know,
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• 1:07:04
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• 1:07:37
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• 1:07:42
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• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: was really cheesy and really bad, not too many laughs,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: no jokes. My favorite parts were the clips from the
• 1:08:07
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• 1:08:11
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• 1:08:18
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• 1:08:30
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• 1:08:32
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• 1:08:35
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• 1:08:37
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• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I thought it was an okay movie. I mean,
• 1:08:43
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• 1:08:45
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• 1:08:51
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  Speaker 1: all the inner workings. My wife watched it with me,
• 1:08:55
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• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was she found it interesting. It expliced. She's like, this
• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:04
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• 1:09:06
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  Speaker 1: but now you're in the crossfire of triangle fire. Belichick
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: coming in yet a little moment with your your guy, Billy. Oh,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I have not had any interactions with Belichick. Billy. Billy
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: O'Brien was in my office like the day after we
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: found out that he was coming back. Um, he made
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: fun of me from my commute, which was nice. Nor
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: guy too, isn't he originally he gets it, he gets it,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: he gets to one other. I can't find the email,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: but um, and I apologize for that. But someone was
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: really criticizing me for liking Hooters wings and saying that
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: they had breadcrumbs on it. Hooters wings aren't crazy. I like, like,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: it's not bread comes per se, but they have like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: a batter, like a brighted thing over it. It's not bad.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I've never been Hooters. Yeah, it's not bad.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Are you against it? No? I just have never. There's
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: one in somebody's daughter went to. I mean, I've been
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: to place worse than Hooters. Is like mild compared to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the white Oh yeah yeah, it's I have no idea
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You know, did you take Alex
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to uh to Hooters out and knowing this strip? Yeah,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: we were walking the strip and these three girls go
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: by us, and he goes, those are strippers, right, Like,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: what do you think I want to have? I wanted
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Alex to have that moment. I wanted Alex to have
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that moment that I feel like every guy I know
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: has and they go to Vegas where they're just sitting
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: somewhere and all of a sudden, like the three most
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: beautiful women they've ever seen just come and pretend to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: be interested in them. And they don't realize it's a hooker.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: People don't really not realize that though they just try to.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: They just try to. But you're just like in the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: back of your mind, not everyone as you are. Yeah,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: it was great. I was like, gave me the world
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: to a prostitution, like you know what it is, you
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: know what it is always but oh but my point
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: is you kind of convince yourself like, yeah, maybe maybe
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: they're not. Oh yeah it is, you know that they are.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I got to back up Alex on this point because
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened to me. I went my first
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: time to Vegas and my friend's birthday. That could happen
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: to you, that's why believes. But they didn't talk to me.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: They didn't talk to me. We're in the Mandalai Bay
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: late night like this was you know everything, It's like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: two three in the morning. And my thought process that was, like,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: why are all these like dressed up women but with
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: like one or two very obnoxious tattoos all over this
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: place like that was like the like they were always
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: very nicely dressed, but they would always just be then
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: likes tattoo, aggressive tattoo. It is an interesting thing that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Alex brings up because I wonder if I was like
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: twenty four and I was hanging out in Vegas and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: that happened. I wonder if I would have been like
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: obnoxious enough to be like, let me go to the ATM. Yeah,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: well no, no, no, not realizing that that I would
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: need to go to the ATM. You know, when I
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: was much what very little time I spent in Vegas,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: I was already you know this happened White Lotus. Yeah,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: it was a little I was a little older and
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: not you know, I kind of knew like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: that woman's not interested in me. Yeah. No, I didn't
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: get hit on it. I'll never forget that though those
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: were strippers. Was it the pasties or was it the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: which part of it was? Was that too me? To me?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: What I did on Twitter? No, it was great, it
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: was great. But he saw it at a point in
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: time in the trip where we were pretty tired at
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: that point, and you know, I think it was like
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: day six and he was Yeah, he was already in
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: his fields about something unrelated and his fields feels. So
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: he saw that he was just like the sixth round
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: center didn't quite live up the expectations so bad. Rick
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Stromberg fumbled a snap out. I just thought he didn't respond. Yes, man,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: let him lick the buffalo offt Fingers. Uh, let's go
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: back to the phones. Five five past five hundred marks
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: and Bolton hey, Mark, oh hey, um he's Uh. I'm
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: starting to wonder when when Paul here's my name, he
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: starts to think like a red flag in front of
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: a bull. Um, I don't know, I don't know, sort
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: of irritating him late. You're a fan. I think I
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: think that's you know, I'm not triggered, so I think
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: I'm losing my fastball. Yeah, I mean, but he just
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: lumps you win with all the other people. Yeah. I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: got my two leader with diapepsia. I'm good. Um. One
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: a combine prediction, another free agency and last, I think
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a draft maker type call that's been
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: made with the combine. I think that especially with offensive tackles,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: we're getting this uh, you know, high end. You know
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: what's what's what's their ceiling. And I think that once
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: like guys like Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones and even
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: maybe even Dwan Jones test out that their their ceiling
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: is going to be so high that it might push
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: a guy like uh Peter Scarnski, who's probably the most
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: NFL ready guy ready to play, to the path of fourteen.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: And I think that that would be a good development
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: because I think they just they need a guy that's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: just solid. They don't need some of this that's all
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: world um free agency. I've been getting some heat on Twitter,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: but I think I'd love to see the path Squapic
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmund. I think that would really complete their defense.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Who's that that's a lot of too much money, wrong play,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: you know other other too much money can't can't be
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: too tight against the cap that doesn't exist, right, Yeah,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: I think physical creak the bills and it sends a
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: message the bill you know we're coming for you. And
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: a guy that I really liked um Uh as far
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: as potential is concerned, and he might not have to
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: even do anything first year is uh Organ. State's got
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: a tight end at six six two fifty five and
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, give him some gives him, you know,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: some coaching and sent a year at the training table
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: and get him to two sixty five. And that's a loop.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Mus Grave Ye three comments. I don't know what anybody
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: thinks about just one little pet peeve of mine. It
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: comes to draft season. You can't just automatically make twenty
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: everybody twenty pounds heavier, like we recognize, like you can't
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: just take a player like Tae Kwon, I think is
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: a great example of this. Tae Kwon is four pounds,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds. If that soaking wet, He's
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: not gonna be two ten like it's it just he
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: is what he is. I think though, there's original point
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: of the Scronsky pick to me is what's staring me
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: right in the face every single time I look at
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: the first round and try to figure out what they
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: might be able to do at fourteen. I don't think
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: he's one of these guys that's going to go into
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: the combine and put on a show. I don't think
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: he's going to run a sub five. I don't think
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have this crazy, you know workout that that
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: propels him into the top ten. I could end up
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: being wrong about that, but that early teens fourteen feels
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: exactly like where he's about to go in the draft.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that he does some things. He's not
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: as flashy as a Brodrick Jones, for example. It is
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: really really good in space and has all these blocks
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: and on the move that are just ridiculous. But when
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: you really study his film and get into the nitty
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: gritty of it, you're like, oh, wow, that was like
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: a really smart thing he did there, or this was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: a you know, his hand technique here was perfect. That
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: was perfect. This is polished, that's done. So I think
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: that there's a lot to be said for that as well.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I would just to piggyback on a little bit. I mean,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: I think I texted you last week, which is just
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: it just seems like this is a very talented tight
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: end class with good like throughout the first two days
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: there are guys who can play. So I mean my
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: text to Evan was like, they kind of have to
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: hit a tight end this year. I mean, you know,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to Hunter Henry or John Smith, but it
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: seems like they could get a really athletic guy that
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: they could maybe groom at least as just a move guy. Yeah,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I just have seen too many, and I you know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily hold a lot of stock in all
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the mock draft, but I've seen too many in the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: first round, you know, I've seen too many. Yeah, I've
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: seen too many Mayors. And I don't like it'd be
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: one thing I wouldn't have done this either. But like
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts a couple of years ago was like supposed
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: to be this next generation type of tight end, right,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Mayor's that. I don't even think
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: that he's largely he's a consensus best tight end in
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: this class. Now. I think if you there's an argument
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: obviously that you take the tight end and it's the Gronk,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: the Kelsey, the Mark Andrews ro Out where he's your
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: top guy in your offense, and maybe Michael Mayer somebody.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Some of the other tight ends in this class are
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: better tight end prospects, and the wide receiver prospects are
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: wide receiver prospects. So that's the way that you go. Um,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: the guy that I had mentioned for a tight end though,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: is a lot too from Alabama, like just played for
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien for the last two years, had great production
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: in Bill Brian's offense really took off. His career took
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: off really sharp, precise, consistent route runner. I think that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: he is a guy that third or fourth round you
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: could get at that range in the draft, which I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: think makes a little bit more sense when that's when
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: I'm with Mike. They need to get a tight end
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: if you want to do it in a third or
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: fourth round. I'm and what's the new guy they hired.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Was he with Bill O'Brian last year at Alabama or
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: was that? Yes? So so he so you have that
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Cameron is his name, and he's who's the Senior Bowl.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: He can do a little bit of everything. He's more
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: of like a traditional why but he can play a
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: little bit off too, and he's got really really good
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: route runner. I wonder if you know, one of Bill
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: O'Brien's criteria for coming on boardards I have to have
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: some say in the draft, you know, I mean I
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: would hope that they would, you know, I don't. I mean,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I like say and and you know, input, like you know,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: where do you say, like, oh, he's going to decide?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: But I would hope. So, I mean, I hope that
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: he is, you know, a major part of whatever they're
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: going to draft offensively when it's you know, going to
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: the tackles like you know, how how are these guys
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: gonna fit in with what we're gonna do? Yeah, it's
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be my offense, we think. And I know the
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: type of player I need. You know, Eldred's in North Carolina?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: What's up? Eldred? Hey? Hey, for lord lady, how y'all
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: doing good? Ellen? Good? I got a couple of questions, ever,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: and I get you take it off the air, Heaven.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: I know you did the Senior Bowl and on that
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: how did it look? But I ain't feeling I ain't.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: I ain't feeling the tackle on the first round. So
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: my question is, if he had a choice, Heaven, would
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: you get the Vane Witherstone or Quintin Junk? I'd probably
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: go Witherspinning Quinn Johnson. Where is the crap out of me?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: As a as a Patriots prospect? I think it's just
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: too much of the same mistake that you made with
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: nik Kill Harry. If I if I'm going wide receiver
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: in the first round as the Patriots I'd take Jordan
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Addison all day, but I don't think Quintin Johnson's is
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: the type of guy that they necessarily need Weather's. But
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I haven't done a deep dive into him yet, but
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: I like what I've seen so far out of him,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: and I do I do wonder what za cornerback class.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of the same guy like that. You
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: you know, you can get a lot of these six
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: foot one, six foot two corners that the Patriots could
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: really use on the outside. I think it's similar to
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier about tackle, but even more
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: so at corner. I'm not sure how different guy like
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon is from a guy like Julius Brents from Kansas State,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: who I really like. Is like sixty three is good
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: number one? Yeah, Yeah, I just don't I don't know
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: how different they are. Sucking it killed the other guy,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Kailty or whatever his name is. Oh, he's about six two.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: They got him rated sucking or third. Okay, yeah, good one.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta go, all right, thanks biggy, All right? Uh
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Rashads in Baltimore. What's up? Hey, what's up? What's that? Um?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't have nothing to want to current Patriots.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I think that I got a question for Paul. They're three. Um,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that you guys know who Robert Edwards did,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't know the story about, Um what happened
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: to him about I guess sudden with the Pro Bowl. Yeah,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: he was playing beach volleyball actually, and he ripped apart
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: his leg and I mean the leg almost had to
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: come off. It was about all the ligaments and he
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: had uh like otteries damaged and lost nerve um and
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Fred's right, they almost had to to cut off. And
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: he was never the same. He had that drop foot
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: afterwards where you kind of when you walk, your foot
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: kind of just drops like like gravity. Um, he had
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: not very little control. He tried to come back. Um,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I want to say in oh one, Yeah, I think so.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: I think he was out the entire two thousand season.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Well what was he no? What was other? He was thin?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: He was a Carol draftee right, Yeah, And what was
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: the that he was it ninety eight that he was
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: a rookie and he missed all the ninety nine season,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: might have been two thousand. He tried to come back. Yeah,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: and Miami took him, right, I think Miami did take him. Yeah,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: but he was he never was the same. Yeah, um,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: and he was good, Like he had a really good
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: rookie year. I don't know how great he was or
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: could have been, but I do think that was you know,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: and that's that's the cautionary tale of the Pro Bowl games, right,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. You know, he heard it playing
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: beach volleyball. It's probably the worst Pro Bowl injury ever.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even during the game. You know. Um,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it was too bad because he was I think in
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: his first year he had stin left and you were like, yeah,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I know he was not kl Smartin, No, but he
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: could have been good. Yeah, it was good. He was good, Fred,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: he was good. A lot of those guys like Leonard Russell,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: big powerbacks in the nine. He was better than Leonard Russell,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I think, but Leonard Russell was promising. Do you think
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: if you heard the robbery Ledwards like, oh, he was
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: the next like that. And that's why I said, you know,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: he was no Curtis Smartin, but he was good. Yeah,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Like it was a good player. They lost after one
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: season because of As a casual fan at that point.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: That's just like that's what you thought. You're like, oh
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, I got, I got, I got one
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: thing for you. Um last week when you was talking
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: about the Brady thing, you were you were one hundred
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: and spent right like he was with us for twenty years. Now,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I know that email that they spent then the thing
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: about you know, Brady and Tampa Bay, but they was
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: he was what U for twenty years. It could have
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: been it could have been some bad time, but it
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: was twenty years. That's right, Like like I'm sorry, I'm
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: sorry to that lady, but like that that that's that's
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: more you know, that's more than time. And Tampa, that's
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: right and even stuck with me too, Tampa, Tina, that's right. Now,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Rashad. Twenty years, nine appearances, six super
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Bowls does not equal three years one super Bowl. Sorry,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: some emailers said that, yeah, we should read no, Fred
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Fred was really ESPN had like banners up and you
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: know it had like Tampa Bay and some of the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: highlight packages were showing it was fifty all Tampa Bay stuff.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: He was very upset about it. Yeah, but we understand that.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: But then we had the email the Patriots, you've established yourself. Yeah.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: The woman emailed in and basically told us that we're
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: all delusional for thinking that Tom still cares about us.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: I think we might be. Yeah, Evan would a great
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Did you see somebody sent a tweet of Madden? I
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: think had some kind of graphic they put out. Fred's right,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: it's like two and a half times, but it's really like,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: if you look, there were two pages. There were two
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Patriots and one buck, and they were basically equal size. No, yeah,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: the buck one is bigger, but there are two Patriots,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: I know, so you got to combine them. I agree
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: with that email or I didn't even I don't even
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: know what you didn't hear the email? Now that's the
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: polish thing he's ever said. I agree with the email.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even wow you. Who are somebody hurt you? Evan? Yeah,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: like the ex girlfriend that got away and this is worse. Yeah,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: I'm back and grovel at my feet exactly. Jason and
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Rocky Hill, Connecticut. Lots have been made of the conversation
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: between Belichick and Brady and Brady's podcast. My honest question
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: to all of you is, do you think it is
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: strictly a pr move for the both of them, or
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: is their actual sincerity there. I'd like to believe the latter,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: but I would not be shocked to learn if it
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: was only the former. No, I think there was sincerity.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Basicly had his parents on, he
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: had Peyton, I mean, he had you know, it was
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a retrospective on his career. So
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm sure he just asked. And you know,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff from Bill you've heard
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: from him over the years in terms of what he praised.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Book was so great about Tom and you know, not
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: nothing that we hadn't heard before. But I mean, I
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: liked it just it felt like a little bit of
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: reset button here is we're getting into new territory with
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: with all of it. Um Juan and Mexico says he
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: hates the chiefs because of Kelsey. He's a douche, like
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: an evil gront because all that. Since he major, I
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: hate my Home's brother and his TikTok's and my Home's
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: wife or whatever she is. That's fair. They're hatable. They
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: haven't been around this year. He had a conversation. I
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: just had to sit down after the restaurant incident with
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: the brother, that was the end of those out I
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: just can't imagine not liking a team because of the
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: spouse and sibling of one of it. You're simply not
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: a fan, Paul. That's how fans react, so annoying exactly,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Like why would I hate the Patriots because I don't
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: like Giselle? Because because you Because I highly disagree. Because
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: have you taken in any of Jackson movie? If you
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: were the other day that she was piping the media
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: because he can't throw it and catch it at the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: same time, you would think it was ridiculous. But for whatever,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like a little, I'd like a moment. No, I mean, like,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: for for some people, whoever the person is, you don't
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: want good things to happen to that person. If that
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: means not liking a whole organization just so that one
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: person can't have good things, that's just the way it is.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: Oh No, but I and I completely understand that. No.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: But if I didn't like Mahomes and I don't want
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: good things to happen to Mahomes, yeah, I would completely
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: understand that. Like you can like and not like anybody.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand family members fall into I like Mahomes,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: I just don't like his wife, so I'm gonna root
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: against him. That that's irrational, No, it isn't. That's how
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: most people feel. Most people like Patrick Mahomes, right, we
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: can't have good I think a lot of people don't
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: like his wife. Right. I don't like his wife. I don't.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: I think she's highly annoying. But like I don't. That
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with why I'm watching a
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: football game like I hate. I'll give you a perfect example.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I despise Anna Horford. Okay, I root for the Celtics
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: every game. I root for Al Horford to make threes
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: not enough, Then you don't despise her. That's a fair point.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Like what, like, you know what I'm talking about with
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Anna Horford. She's annoying as hell. I like Anna, but
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: the Celtics in my team. That doesn't take any of
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: my enjoyment away from watching Al Horford. Well, it's not
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Chiefs fans that are having this hatred. It's the rest
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: of the league. Just like we love Al Horford. That's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: a fair point. Maybe I would feel talk to Philly
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: fans about Anna. That's that's a good point. First name
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: in a bar in Philly once and they wanted to
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: kill me. Well, Al Horford quit on them. Yeah, Al
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Horford and Ben Simmons. Don't say those team names in Philadelphia.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: The height of professionalism. He's gonna fix the locker room.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He's quit on like four teams. But that's you know, sorry, Yeah,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: like Kyrie Irving going over to Dallas. Who I mean,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: come on, no, But that's a good point. I didn't
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: look at it that way because if I didn't like
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: the Celtics, maybe I would. It is a good point.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'd be prettdisposed to get Alex the voice of reason.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: I'm here, okay, um, Kevin and Durblin. The most interesting
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: point to me from Brady's podcast last night was the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: comment about the New England Boston media seeking to drive
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: a wedge between Bill and Tom and the Patriots in general.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Do you think this was pointing out at pointing to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: anyone in particular, and giving Brady's propensity to use media
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: commentary like bulletin board material? Contrary, it was easy breezy
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: four agreements guru per persona. What stories do you think
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: really irked him while he was a Patriot. Well, that
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: particular story was Seth Wickersham Wickersham Comma Seth. Yeah that
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: was a big not Boston media. Yeah right, he's ESPN,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: but he had fifty fifty sources inside the building of
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: the most titlit building, and pretty much everything he wrote
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: was let's face it, like a lot of people, as
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: much as you hate to admit it, in in twenty
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen and we this is all old stuff. But in
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when I made the comment earlier in the show,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: like I made sure that my kids went to that
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: game because I knew that was the last game. It
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't because of anything that happened in twenty nineteen. It
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: was in twenty seventeen when he basically was telling anybody
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: that would listen that he wasn't happy. And it got
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: worse as time went on. And I mean I remember,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: before the twenty nineteen season even started, We're in yeah,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: go ask mister Kraft, Like if you didn't think like
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: this whole story had come out yet, like months before
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: he's telling you, he's telling you to go and ask
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: the owner. The contract then went on for a long
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: time if you didn't think at that time like you know,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm not making fun of you for it because
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: you thought he was going too, you know, would just
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: were kind of like, we're hoping and whatever. It was
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: pretty clear he was leaving. Yeah, unless you had your
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: head in the sand and just beyond hope and that
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: that all, like that was all to me pretty obvious
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: that they didn't value him and he had had enough
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: of not being valued, right, do you know what I'm saying.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: I absolutely know what you're saying. I mean, and there's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: no doubt that that's true. They didn't think that he
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: was going to be able to play until he was
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: forty five at that at a high level, and he
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: was tired of taking less. Yeah, And like I've talked
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: to people that are close to him, you know, I'm
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: not gonna get but that's what they told me, you know.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: And Giselle said it, you know, she said it out,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: you know, out loud. So that's absolutely the case. Alex
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: and Engelwood, New Jersey. I'll be rooting against the Eagles,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: he said. The last time they won. I was in
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: college in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and the Eagles fans are by
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: far some of the most insufferable out there. They burned
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: the city. If they win, they burn it. If they lose,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I'll be rooting against the Eagles through and through. The
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: Chiefs will never top all the dynasty that the Patriots
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: have put together over the past twenty years. And Paul
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: hit it right on the head. They will be in
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: it every year, but won't finish it off. To get
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls? Well maybe you never know. I don't
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: want to chance it a lot. Yeah, a lot depends
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: on the other teams too, But I mean I think
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: the odds of them winning, you know, the odds of
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes winning seven titles or at the minuscule I
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: get it. I mean, does he have to win that
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: many to be considered great? You know, at that level
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: of greatness. Look at Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, everybody consider I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: think most people consider him a top five seven quarterback
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: all time. He's got one. Yep. Where's he going to
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: end up? By the way, I was listening to talk
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: about Vegas this weekend. That was funny. Yeah, that was fine.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: I give him credits, you know, because I always think
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: you him as such a now like he had a
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: sense of humor, yeah, a little bit. He had fun
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: with it. He was at the pro am. I know,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: did you hear that? Now there's a controversy that he
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: submitted a handicap. He basically sandbagged then, Oh really yeah,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: that's the most Yeah, I'm sorry and we're back. Yeah,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: that's the most out and rogers than ever. Yeah, I
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: heard that this morning. Can you explain that? What is up? Well?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: You have you Yeah, I mean I know, what if
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: you register your handpack handicap with the US whatever. Yeah,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, he's supposed to be honest about it,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: and depending on what your number is, you get that
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: advantage when you enter tournaments. And there's a thing called
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: sand backing sandbagging where people enter, they finish around, and
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: they enter a worst score than they really had, so
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: then their handicap goes up, so that that when they're
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: in a real tournament they have an advantage. It's it's
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: like it's a no no among golfers, you know, sand
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: bags supposed Yeah, he's supposed to be honest about your score.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: The honors, Oh yeah, that's I mean that's Pebble Beach.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Did you do that Pebble Beach this week? Yeah? He
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: won and I actually peep on the prom I played
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: with a sandbagger once, like a known like did you
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: know you? Well I didn't. I didn't know the guy.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: But it was four of us and the guy that
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: it was. We were playing in Maynard or someplace, and
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: this guy says, this guy's a sandbagger. He's a known sandbagger,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: and so you get money. Well, yeah, we were kind
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: of betting. It wasn't a tournament or anything, but that's
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: not older guy, older guy. Yeah, and so then at
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: the end he's like and I get yeah, four strokes.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Well it wasn't based. We were just playing, you know,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: by holes, so it didn't really matter. But they pointed
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: out this guy as a sandbagger. I had never played
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: with one before. Yeah, but that's a faux paw in
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: the golf. There's a lot of them. I'm always like
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: stressed out in golf. I mean, I've talked before about
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: golf Tory Pines and the ranger was up our ass
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: the whole time because we were a bunch of idiots,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: like we had no right to be golfing Tory Pines
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: down there. But it's there's a lot of rules too
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: many people I'm arounding golf. They do it the other way.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: They tell you how great they are, right, and then
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: they get out there and you get out there and play,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: and you're like, he's not any better than me, and
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I suck Cannon, New Jersey. Uh about eighty four Brady.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Actually not as bad of a movie as I was expecting.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous opinion. Yeah, ridiculously unrealistic, but kind of cute and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: enjoyable if you like those actresses, which I do. The
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: women sitting in front of my wife and I were
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: laughing NonStop. But you can definitely wait until it is
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: on streaming service HBO or the like. If you have
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: to call a movie cute, is it really good? Well,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: if it's supposed to be cute and it's cute, be good. Yeah.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: I just I saw one Patriots fan write about it
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: on Twitter and she said something the effective like, I
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: really liked the scenes with the team, but I wish
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: I could have ended it right there, because whatever came
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: after they won the Super Bowl, they're, you know, the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: the final part of it. She she found complete disasters
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: for a sequel, believe it or not. Really, Yeah, I
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: just like I've heard a lot of people saying, like, like,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I think tracks, Tracks had something on Facebook that he
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: wrote was like it was it brought me right back
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: to that, Like you go into that movie so you
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: could sort of relive the super Bowl, but just call
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: up like go on YouTube right like what do you
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: need to go see a movie DVD? I don't really
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: understand like the correlation of memories of ZionT is listening
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: to us right now. Auntie Mary shout out, and she
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: saw it on Sunday, she said, and all over age
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: fifty women wearing Tom Brady's shirts just a few minutes,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: a few men. She said it was okay. Yeah, she
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: said it was just okay. So it's like she said,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: for her, Yeah, I think so. I don't know if
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: she has your temper. I'm not sure Auntie Mary is
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: the exact target audience for that movie. Okay? Yeah? Uh
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Ford and Savannah Georgia. If this next season comes down
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: to another win and win an in scenario or a
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: playoff Berth against Buffalo in the first round, can't we
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: say Brady's one day contract for that day and suit
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: him up to help us get over for the hump.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: I'm obviously joking. Thank you, thank you for clarifying that. PS.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Can we also retire saying the goat unless it's about
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Brady Nolan. Ryan and Michael Jordan had a baby, and
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: that was Brady until someone knocks him off. Top seven
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: titles of something along those lines. Indisputable evidence. There can
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: only be one football goat. It's like the movie Highlander.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: There can only be one goat. I don't know. I
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: don't really, I don't, but there could be a goat
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: in every sport, you know, no, no, but I agree
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, there can only be one in football. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: If you're the goat, you're the goat. It's the greatest
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: of all time, not among the greats of all times, right, right,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: he's one of the goats. Never got the goats? Um
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: about um, let's see who who is really mad at
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: Chris Simms for buttoning the top us. Thank you, Jack
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: and and our says Magic Johnson originated the buttoning the
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: top button thing. Oh, I feel like I didn't know
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: that Johnson way cooler chrisnd Come on, Magic is like
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: one of the most chartismatic guys ever could wear About that?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Um L from Wisconsin sitting with what's been the report
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: for about a week now. I guess I don't know
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Maybe Bill O'Brien. I think this
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: is the most clear evidence that we've seen that Bill
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: may have lost his fastball, not realizing how much the
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: OC did moonlighting is play caller at times and it
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: looked like this though I'm sure people will say those
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: are the times the old look good and possibly worse. Yet,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: if all this stuff about Judge is true, he just
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: let it happen, and on top of that might bring
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: Judge back. Not very characteristic of the rest of his tenure.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: Just wanted to get my thoughts out here. Hopefully the
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: ship is right in next season, though I am where
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: rate will win too many games to get a quarterback
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: in the draft. Um, yeah, we really didn't talk about that.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: There was a report out that Bill at times actually
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: called plays, oh yeah during the se and that was
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: why some of them. That was of them better than that. Now,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I thought that was Yeah. I think that came out
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: after Paul. I thought we talked about. We did talk
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: about it might have been breathed though, you know, I
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: don't recall. Yeah, what did you think about that? I mean,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: I thought it was it made sense. I mean, this
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: is I mean, I can't understate, like how surprised I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: am it to echo the emailers calls that they that
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: that that he would make a mistake like this, Like
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: it just feels did anyone really think it will work?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Was there anybody out there that was like, depth, this
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: will be great? Like, well, I'm not surprised. I mean,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: learning that he might have called plays at times makes
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: me understand why Mac was even more confused. I mean,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: have all those voices that's not good. I think that's
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: what we talked about when we talked about this. You
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: can understand him waving everybody off like shot up, yeah,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: because he probably had too many voices in his head.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: I don't kind of like he. I think what Bill
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: might have underestimated about the whole situation is I genuinely
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: now believe that Map, Patricia and Joe Judge were there
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: to just be to be babysitters and just to placehold
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: for the position because ye, yes, yeah, because I think
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien was was always coming back and I think
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: that his contract in Alabama was what it was, and
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: they I mean that the whole Bill O'Brien thing happened
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: so quickly for him to come back this time and
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: it seemed like such a slam dunk from both sides
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: that I really think that Matt, Patricia and Joe Judge
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: were there just as a bridge to get back to Bill.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: I said, Am I the only one that wants someone
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: to get fired over that? If that's what happened, Yes,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: I think that the problem is that I think you
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: sabotaged the whole season. Well, no, you tried to get
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: by then it was in the placeholder then if you thought,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he underestimated. I think he thought
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: because of himself, and I don't necessarily think that this
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: was wrong going into because he is Bill Belichick. I
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: think he would he thought, as himself, I will at
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: least keep the train on the tracks enough, this isn't
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: going to ruin. Whether it was a placeholder or extended.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: He thought it could work, well, I think he thought
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: it could work, Yes, I just I don't think if
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: it worked, he would have been changing it out. In
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: other words, only one of those two things can be true.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: I just know I don't know how to what capacity
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: he actually thought it would work. I think he thought
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: that they would survive the year. I don't think he
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: ever imagined it would get as bad as it did,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: especially for Mac. I agree. But what makes me even
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: crazier though, is, Okay, let's say he thought it could work,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: why do you want to change the offense on top
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: of that? Right, that's just making it work. You're going
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: to just do a placeholder? Why? Yeah? Again, it's the
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: only guy on the planet that can completely f up
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: and be credited for doing it on purpose. And that's
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: and then to point, like, you know, a lot of
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: the other stuff that you can say about like Bill
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: screwed that up. I mean, there's plenty of things. Oh
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: he screwed up Brady at the end, Like, but all
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: those things are somewhat nebulous, like yeah, but you know,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: but Brady didn't really you know, like I agree, But
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: this is this is a concrete, maybe the first example
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: that is undeniable that he doesn't messed up, Like you know,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole universe accept me thought it couldn't work.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't kind of believe. I think I
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: just had my head in the sand of like he
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: couldn't make a decision. I was hopeful. Yeah, I think
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: changing the offense was because these I was the only
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: one the coaches they had I couldn't understand. So then
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: you paint yourself into a corner and you're like, all right,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do a placeholder, and I all, I
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: think that's right. Changed. They stripped the offense because they
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: needed to be at an elementary level for the guy's
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: running the show. But I thought last year or not,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, twenty twenty one, I thought they were easy
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: to defend. That's what everyone told us. But but we're
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: talking about like scheme and language and terminology, not necessarily
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: I see, I'm gonna disagree. I mean, maybe the concepts
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: are simpler with what they tried to change too, but
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: the fact that they had to change to that means
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: you have to start over. I don't care if the
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: concepts were simpler. In the terminology, it's about it's about
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: teaching it though, well yeah, I guess, but yeah, I guess,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and Judge wasn't here. Yeah. So one of
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that they changed was the
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: way that they blocked things up front. The protection schemes.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: So the Patriots for years had a dual read system,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: meaning that you're reading sometimes two different players and that
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: you have to kind of figure out Okay, what are
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: the keys, what are their tendencies, what are all these
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: other intricacy things, so that we can stay a step
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: ahead while also doing that. They took that out. So
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: now they got to the line of scrimmage, they had
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: one call. They hiked the football and if they weren't
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: ready to, if they weren't pointed in the right direction
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: to block it, and then was it? Then why were
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: guys like I know, but like then you have guys
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: just rushing free to the past or earlier in the season,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: you know, right, because they had no ability really to
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: adjust on the fly to the picture the defense was
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: showing them, whether it's post nap or before the ball
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: was snaped. So they come to the line of scrimmage,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: they're calling the protection, this is it, this is it
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: post snap? And if this happens, then I saw more
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: confusion this year than I did any other year, and
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be simple. I think I think
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: the confusion stem from the fact that the players on
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: the field were saying, one, we never talked about this,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: like they sent this blitz and we've never seen this
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: blitz before in our in any film study, or any
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: meeting room or anything. Like that. And number two, I
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: think there were a lot of players. I won't name names,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: but there are a lot of players that I know
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: for a fact. We're frustrated by the fact that last year,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I mean, this would have gotten blocked,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: but this year it's not getting blocked because we're not
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: doing it the same way anymore. I think that that
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: was a big part of the frustration. I mean, the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: idea that I have to make my offense simpler because
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: of my coaches, that's for the team that makes it
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: makes no sense. And I think that and I'm not
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: disagreeing with whatever said. This is stuff that I talked
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: about all offseason. I think they did changing for the coaches,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: and I think that's why Ivan Fiers was around as
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: much as he was in quote unquote retirement, because he
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: was the one voice that could actually help them a
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: little bit. But if there was the plan all along
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: to have this be a one years stop gap, that
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: makes the decision to change things schematically even worse, right,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't believe it. Yeah, and I think
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: someone should be fired if that's really what they would.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: You know what, We're gonna take these two guys one's
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: defense or one special teams, and we're gonna change the
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: offense completely, but it's only gonna be for a year. Mac,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We're gonna go right back to
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: the old offense when we get Billy O'Brien next year.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Like it, that's a lot of bad decisions in one
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: and like we we have no idea. You know, we've
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, like we know, like the
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg, we don't really know what goes on,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: but for all we know, like last year, Bill mentioned, yeah,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get Bill O'Brien. Then he finds
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: out that he can't or like you know, Saban really
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to let him go, and maybe the Crafts
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: were like, I don't care what Saban thinks, go poach him.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe Bill Yo didn't want to leave last maybe, but
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: maybe the Crafts like, I don't just go get him
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: if you if you think he's gonna help us, go
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: get him. And then Bill makes this thing up, Well, no,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: I got a better idea we can use. I got
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: a better idea actually, you know, so I don't know,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: like they can't have them run the regular offense because
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: they don't know it. So we're gonna try to have
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: them implement another offense that they don't know is, yeah,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: it's reading a play the Bill Brian playbook. I actually
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: got my hands on the twenty eleven playbook. It's like
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: the Da Vinci Code, and like if you don't, like
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: if you do, if you weren't raised in that, like
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: if you don't know it like the back of your
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: hand like Josh McDaniels did, for example. I mean, they
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: have protections that and they're just pages and pages and
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: pages and protections and they just get to the line
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and most of their base protections are numbered.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: It's all numbered, so most of their base protections are
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: the seven in the seventies. So those get to the
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and they'll just say seventy four and
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: and everybody involved is just supposed to know everything about
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: what seventy four means. And like if you don't know,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: like if you don't, if you can't coach that, if
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: you can't teach that, I don't know how you implemented
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: it in offense. Was it Bill O'Brien's or was it
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: did he inherit it from you know, whoever the predecessor was.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: So the protection schemes were Dante's. Yeah, okay, and I
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: mean they're awesome, but like you have to like really,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: I don't. It's it's it's too advanced, Like I don't
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: even know what I'm looking at. Like it's it's too much.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: It's but there must be a way to teach it,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: because like not, I don't want to diminish these guys,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: but they're not brain surgeons. They're football players, so they
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: must there must be a way to teach that so
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: that they remember it and can execute it. I just
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: think that in order for you to be able to
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: teach it, you need to be at that PhD level,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: Like you need to be right the smartest people can
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: make the you know and understand right, you need to
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: be the smartest guy in the room. Yeah. I don't
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: know if the coaches were, Okay, it's it's just for me.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: It's just it shines a whole new light on what
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: we watched in training camp and how when you came
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: out all those practices you felt like they didn't really
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: accomplish much. Today, they didn't really feel like they knew
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: what they were doing. They didn't practice with purpose, they
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: didn't get things done, and that's and that's the case.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Karen's thing ten. For me, it was all about understanding
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: what I was listening to with all of the comments
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: and where they were coming from, the frustration that it
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: was like born from. All Right, we gotta go. It's
• 2:00:31
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• 2:00:35
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