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- 0:03Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically Black women with an opinion who
- 0:07Speaker 1: talk back.
- 0:10Speaker 2: What's up, y'all?
- 0:11Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
- 0:13Speaker 3: We Talk Back, a show dedicated to you niggas.
- 0:19Speaker 2: What was that? This is your co-host, AJ Holiday. What's up, Tam?
- 0:25Speaker 1: And it's dedicated to those blanks and everybody in between. Hey, girl. Hey, y'all.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I love y'all once again this week. I'm still coming
- 0:34Speaker 1: with all the love. How you doing, friend?
- 0:36Speaker 2: I'm good.
- 0:37Speaker 3: I met a couple beige guys this weekend, and I
- 0:41Speaker 3: think that maybe one might have listened to the show,
- 0:44Speaker 3: and he curved me yesterday.
- 0:48Speaker 1: So?
- 0:49Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, so, but I'm just saying. Maybe the
- 0:53Speaker 3: intro scares people off, because last week's episode was good.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Right.
- 0:59Speaker 1: So?
- 0:59Speaker 2: Fuck them. Period. I can't see you though.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Maybe we don't have to say to niggas and hoes.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Maybe we could just say to ninjas and pros.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Ninjas and pros!
- 1:14Speaker 1: Touch your toes!
- 1:19Speaker 2: What'd you do this.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Weekend besides meet some beige guys?
- 1:22Speaker 2: I was outside all weekend. Like for real outside.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Celebrating our win? Yeah, celebrate your wins.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Kind of, I guess. Maybe that's what it was.
- 1:31Speaker 3: I just started with brunch every day and then just
- 1:34Speaker 3: didn't get home until 10, 11 o'clock at night.
- 1:37Speaker 2: So brunch starts at what time?
- 1:38Speaker 1: 12?
- 1:38Speaker 3: So I was doing 12-hour shifts of ratchet shit this weekend.
- 1:44Speaker 2: It was really fun. Real, real fun. You know, Charleston
- 1:47Speaker 2: has a lot of nice places.
- 1:49Speaker 3: A lot of nice rooftop bars and it's always sunny
- 1:52Speaker 3: out and shit. And we got palm trees. I just
- 1:55Speaker 3: feel like niggas be hating because we got palm trees
- 1:57Speaker 3: and we got the beach and.
- 1:59Speaker 2: It'd just be nice.
- 2:00Speaker 3: All the Southern Charm characters are out this weekend, too. Yeah,
- 2:04Speaker 3: I know we got the reality show in Charleston, Southern Charm,
- 2:08Speaker 3: which highlights all the prominent elitists in the city.
- 2:14Speaker 2: You know, the slave owners.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Descendants.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Exactly. Okay, and all the generational wealth. A couple of
- 2:24Speaker 2: them not.
- 2:24Speaker 3: My favorite character off that show is, what's this girl's name?
- 2:29Speaker 3: And she was out as well. But she didn't come
- 2:32Speaker 3: for money for real. She owns a salon here now.
- 2:35Speaker 3: And I don't even think she got the salon until
- 2:37Speaker 3: she was on the show. Not Madeline. I forgot her
- 2:41Speaker 3: name anyway. She just got married. Super pretty white girl.
- 2:45Speaker 3: But the rest of them.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I don't follow.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Yeah. The rest of them are.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Did I stay home and cook meals for niggas?
- 2:54Speaker 2: Uh-uh. You was cooking for niggas this weekend?
- 2:56Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I hear that. You got a boyfriend? Mm-mm. You got
- 3:02Speaker 2: a boy that's a friend?
- 3:03Speaker 1: Because I just had to let these niggas know, you know,
- 3:06Speaker 1: because they be thinking because I make them take me
- 3:09Speaker 1: to dinner all the time that I don't know how
- 3:11Speaker 1: to cook. But I can get these pasta quaking. What
- 3:15Speaker 1: you cook? All right, so I made some steak. I
- 3:21Speaker 1: made some ribeyes. And I made some lobster mac and cheese.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And I made some broccolini with some little honey butter
- 3:30Speaker 1: croissants on the side.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Sounds good.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And some wine.
- 3:34Speaker 3: I heard you had that world-renowned mac and cheese. Like,
- 3:37Speaker 3: I've made your mac and cheese, but I've never actually
- 3:39Speaker 3: tasted your mac and cheese. You know, it's like a
- 3:45Speaker 3: love spell or something. You put your own little mix
- 3:47Speaker 3: on it. I know mine probably tastes different. I haven't
- 3:49Speaker 3: actually tasted yours, but I heard it was good.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Well, when you come to Charlotte, I'll make you a
- 3:54Speaker 1: little small pan.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I heard your Mac was Mac-ing, bitch.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It's the bee's knees. People have that Mac, too.
- 4:01Speaker 2: It be Mac-ing.
- 4:03Speaker 1: No, let me tell you what I love of yours.
- 4:04Speaker 1: That red rice, bitch.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Look, we had to trade recipes. You know, real cooks
- 4:08Speaker 3: don't be just giving out fucking recipes. So I was like,
- 4:10Speaker 3: all right, bitch, let me get the mac and cheese.
- 4:12Speaker 3: I'll send you the red rice recipe. That's how that
- 4:15Speaker 3: go down.
- 4:15Speaker 1: That red rice is so good. That's why I got
- 4:18Speaker 1: this little extra piece of hip right now.
- 4:21Speaker 3: You know, I can't even eat red rice like that
- 4:23Speaker 3: no more because it doesn't, like, taste the same without
- 4:26Speaker 3: all the meat, you know?
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yeah, the meat set it off.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't had red rice myself.
- 4:32Speaker 2: In a long time.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Years. It's pointless if you're just eating red rice with
- 4:37Speaker 1: nothing in it. Get out of here.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Right. No animals?
- 4:41Speaker 1: Right. No animals cooked in the rice? It's crazy. Let's
- 4:44Speaker 1: get into our stupid internet news.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Let's see what's going on. So, I want to start
- 4:50Speaker 3: with Ebony K. Williams and Ayanna.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Ayanna. I can't say her name. Say it.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Ayanna Von Zant.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Got it. Okay. Which is not her real name, but
- 5:01Speaker 2: let's start there.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Yeah, so I know you've probably seen it if you
- 5:05Speaker 3: guys haven't. So it's a viral video going on right now.
- 5:10Speaker 2: So Ebony K.
- 5:11Speaker 3: Williams and essentially Ayanya.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Was asking her. Just call her Ivy.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Ivy was asking her would she date a bus driver, right?
- 5:22Speaker 3: And she said if he owned the bus. That's what,
- 5:26Speaker 3: you know, Ebony K. Williams' response was. I like comments.
- 5:31Speaker 3: I like to see what the people think. I really
- 5:33Speaker 3: don't give a fuck what the people think, but I
- 5:34Speaker 3: do like to see people's thought process. And a lot
- 5:36Speaker 3: of people was talking shit, especially the men. Oh, she's
- 5:39Speaker 3: 40 something still with no man, descendant third. And I'm like,
- 5:44Speaker 3: after this weekend and being out a little bit, is
- 5:48Speaker 3: it possible that there are a lot of black women
- 5:51Speaker 3: that are single and haven't been wedded because, or I
- 5:54Speaker 3: think she's been married before. She's divorced, right? She isn't
- 5:57Speaker 3: married now. But I think a lot of black women
- 6:00Speaker 3: are single because we choose to stay within our own shit.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:05Speaker 3: You know, if she were to choose to maybe date outside,
- 6:08Speaker 3: she might be married.
- 6:11Speaker 1: What's wrong with her wanting him to own the bus?
- 6:13Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 6:14Speaker 3: And I feel like, ma'am, you don't compare me to you. Like,
- 6:17Speaker 3: you might be cool with that shit. Like, you might
- 6:19Speaker 3: have to get a bus driver, but that's not what
- 6:20Speaker 3: I want.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Ayala was like, see, that's your problem, bitch.
- 6:33Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong with a bus driver, but you
- 6:36Speaker 3: don't go through life being a super accomplished woman, right?
- 6:40Speaker 3: To not at least want somebody, and I hate to
- 6:42Speaker 3: use the term equal, but that's what it is. I
- 6:45Speaker 3: feel like in a black community, black men are hypergamous.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Black men date up. All day long, like, you got
- 6:53Speaker 2: to come with all the shit, right? But for the
- 6:56Speaker 2: black women, like, it's almost like, oh, I can't believe
- 6:58Speaker 2: you bitches require stuff. It's a problem. It's a problem.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Like, they want us to date down so that they
- 7:07Speaker 3: have access to the best of the best.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I agree. But no, because a black man will grab
- 7:13Speaker 1: a woman out of Target skin and stuff.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Yes, if she's Hispanic.
- 7:19Speaker 3: With a big booty, with all our characteristics, right? All
- 7:25Speaker 3: our physical characteristics and aesthetics, but just not on a
- 7:30Speaker 3: black woman.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? Successful black men.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I've seen successful black men grab black women out of
- 7:43Speaker 1: the strip club. dancing on the pole. So, I mean,
- 7:46Speaker 1: that's not really.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Hypergamy, is it? That is hypergamy. That woman on the
- 7:51Speaker 2: pole is dating up. Yes, that's hypergamy.
- 7:53Speaker 1: For her, but it's not hypergamy for the man.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Oh, right, for the man. Right.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:57Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 7:58Speaker 1: So, I mean, I guess it's a crapshoot, honestly. I
- 8:01Speaker 1: just don't like people being angry with a woman for
- 8:04Speaker 1: wanting better for herself. Like, why are you upset about that?
- 8:08Speaker 1: I just don't get that part.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:10Speaker 3: And that was, like, a trending topic online, and it
- 8:12Speaker 3: puts black women... Now it's like, I'm sorry, Ivy gives
- 8:17Speaker 3: me pick-me.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Energy. I'm sorry. She just does.
- 8:24Speaker 3: And I don't think we should be shutting any other
- 8:26Speaker 3: black woman for her preference. Men get to have preferences
- 8:28Speaker 3: all day long on what they prefer in relationships. Why
- 8:32Speaker 3: is it like a death sentence when we do? Like, oh,
- 8:34Speaker 3: you just automatically get super shamed for, you know, putting
- 8:38Speaker 3: out there what you want.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Why not? Right. That's how you get what you want.
- 8:44Speaker 2: You have to fucking speak it. So we get shame
- 8:48Speaker 2: for it.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I just thought about old boy from.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Jada Pinkett.
- 8:55Speaker 1: When he was driving the bus and he took her
- 8:57Speaker 1: to the field and fucked her.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Who? What's his name? What movie? Alan Payne.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Alan Payne and Jada Pinkett on.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Jason's lyric. He got her.
- 9:08Speaker 1: He picked her up on the bus. There was nobody
- 9:10Speaker 1: else on it. And he took her to that field
- 9:12Speaker 1: and fucked her. I might do that with a bus
- 9:14Speaker 1: driver if he was fine.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yo. No. Fuck me and some roses, big daddy.
- 9:24Speaker 3: The thing is, it's okay if we in our 20s, right?
- 9:27Speaker 3: And we're growing and building together. But we're talking about
- 9:31Speaker 3: 40-year-old women. And up, we're not the only single ones.
- 9:34Speaker 3: Black men are single too. Like, there's a lot of
- 9:36Speaker 3: black single men. There's a lot of black single women.
- 9:38Speaker 3: I just think that oftentimes in the black community, we
- 9:41Speaker 3: don't put as much emphasis on marriage, black men in particular.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Don't put that much emphasis on marriage. They don't see
- 9:47Speaker 2: the benefit. The value.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:49Speaker 3: They don't see the benefit in having a wife and building, like,
- 9:52Speaker 3: for real, building a legacy and not just saying it.
- 9:55Speaker 3: They don't see the value in it. So that's why
- 9:57Speaker 3: we single. It ain't because it's not men out here.
- 10:00Speaker 3: you know I'm saying they just don't have they don't
- 10:02Speaker 3: just don't put the value on marriage same way we
- 10:04Speaker 3: don't put value on education and a lot of other
- 10:06Speaker 3: things we actually going to get into um in this
- 10:08Speaker 3: particular episode but yeah I'm what uh I'm definitely what
- 10:14Speaker 3: FDK Williams sorry me too okay sorry Ivy me too
- 10:19Speaker 3: Unless one of y'all got a bus, it can take
- 10:21Speaker 3: me to a patch of flowers and you fine.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I'm with Ebony K. Toni Braxton revealed that she underwent
- 10:31Speaker 1: emergency heart surgery in September to treat a life-threatening lupus complication.
- 10:37Speaker 1: My good sister's going through it with her lupus. And,
- 10:39Speaker 1: you know, shout out to all the lupus warriors out
- 10:42Speaker 1: there that's, you know, battling silently or publicly, you know.
- 10:48Speaker 2: My niece has lupus.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Shout out to your niece.
- 10:54Speaker 3: Sometimes I wish I can take it from her because
- 10:57Speaker 3: I know I'd be able to manage it better.
- 10:59Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 11:01Speaker 3: I tell her oftentimes, maybe you might have to do
- 11:03Speaker 3: vegan for a little while. When I was living in St. Louis,
- 11:06Speaker 3: I used to get colonics done every week. And the
- 11:10Speaker 3: lady who was doing it was this African woman. She
- 11:13Speaker 3: showed me pictures of her wheelchair, bedridden.
- 11:17Speaker 2: She was sick. Lupus, supposed to be dead, essentially.
- 11:21Speaker 3: And she started doing colonics, getting colonics, and she went vegan.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Healthy.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Healthy. A lot of it has to do with what
- 11:30Speaker 1: you put in your body, but sometimes it takes more
- 11:32Speaker 1: than that. Toni Braxton said, I kept putting the test
- 11:39Speaker 1: off thinking, oh, I'm fine. I'll be okay. But my
- 11:41Speaker 1: doctor was persistent and I went to get tested in
- 11:43Speaker 1: the last week of September. I did a specialized test
- 11:46Speaker 1: and they looked at my heart and saw some abnormalities.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Braxton told People Magazine, I found out that I needed
- 11:52Speaker 1: a coronary stent. My left main coronary already was 80% blocked.
- 11:56Speaker 1: The doctors told me I could have had a massive
- 11:58Speaker 1: heart attack. I would not have survived. It was a
- 12:01Speaker 1: traumatic moment for me.
- 12:02Speaker 2: I was in shock.
- 12:03Speaker 1: She underwent emergency surgery two days later and had a
- 12:07Speaker 1: stent inserted into the artery to keep it from narrowing
- 12:09Speaker 1: or closing.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Dang. How is that caused via lupus?
- 12:15Speaker 3: I know lupus shows up different for everybody, but I
- 12:19Speaker 3: wonder if she's ever had any heart issues prior to now.
- 12:22Speaker 1: That's weird.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Yeah, lupus affects everybody differently because some people are like
- 12:27Speaker 3: for real like bedridden, can't walk, skin crazy.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Is your body for real turning against you?
- 12:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:38Speaker 2: You know what I want to talk about also? Praz.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Praz Michael from the Fugees. Praz was the founder of
- 12:46Speaker 3: the Fugees. He got convicted of 10 counts of conspiracy, essentially.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Last week, he was in federal court.
- 12:57Speaker 3: You even had Leonardo DiCaprio testify against him. But I
- 13:03Speaker 3: don't think people understand what the fuck is really going
- 13:05Speaker 3: on with that. And maybe I'll try to convey it
- 13:08Speaker 3: a little bit, right? I feel like the headlines have
- 13:11Speaker 3: been trying to throw in our previous president, which is Trump.
- 13:16Speaker 3: But this just started with the Obama administration. Essentially, they
- 13:20Speaker 3: had been funneling money to the Obama administration, like, you know,
- 13:27Speaker 3: during the 2012 election. by way of this, this Chinese, um, um, businessman,
- 13:36Speaker 3: essentially they stole billions of dollars from, um, a Chinese, um,
- 13:42Speaker 3: fund and they were funneling money like illegal lobbying and
- 13:47Speaker 3: shit like that. So the complaint reads that, um, federal
- 13:51Speaker 3: jury convicted us entertainer and businessman today of orchestrating an
- 13:56Speaker 3: unregistered back channel campaign beginning in or about 2017 to
- 14:01Speaker 3: influence the then-administration of the President of the United States
- 14:05Speaker 3: and the Department of Justice to drop the investigations of
- 14:09Speaker 3: Jho Low, J-H-O.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Is it J-I-O, J-I-O-H-O? J-I-L-O, J-H-O-L-O is his name. J-Low.
- 14:16Speaker 2: J-Low is J-H-O-L-O though.
- 14:20Speaker 3: And others for embezzlement and other offenses in connection with
- 14:24Speaker 3: the international strategic and development company known as One Malaysia
- 14:29Speaker 3: Development Berhad.
- 14:31Speaker 2: It's 1MDB.
- 14:35Speaker 3: And to send a Chinese national back to China, as
- 14:38Speaker 3: well as conspiring to make and conceal foreign and conduit
- 14:42Speaker 3: campaign contributions during the 2012 U.S. presidential election. So that's
- 14:47Speaker 3: when Obama would have been in office. So according to
- 14:51Speaker 3: the documents and evidence presented at trial, prize, Michael, 50,
- 14:56Speaker 3: of Coconut Creek, Florida, conspired with Low Tech J-Ho, a.k.a.
- 15:03Speaker 2: J-Ho Low of Malaysia.
- 15:05Speaker 3: And they have all these other people listed and others
- 15:07Speaker 3: to engage in undisclosed lobbying campaigns at the direction of
- 15:11Speaker 3: Low and the Vice Minister of Public Security for the
- 15:14Speaker 3: People's Republic of China, respectively to have the 1MDB embezzlement
- 15:20Speaker 3: investigation and forfeiture proceedings, including Low and others, dropped. and
- 15:24Speaker 3: have Chinese nationals sent back to China. So essentially, he
- 15:29Speaker 3: was giving money, trying to funnel money to the campaign, right?
- 15:33Speaker 3: And then also trying to convince the Trump administration to
- 15:37Speaker 3: stop investigating the shit they did in 2012. All while
- 15:41Speaker 3: y'all got Trump fucked up for giving a bitch $ 130,
- 15:43Speaker 3: $ 130, 000 to cover up.
- 15:43Speaker 2: I'm sure if we investigated any... All of them.
- 15:51Speaker 1: All of them. They would all have some money that
- 15:53Speaker 1: came from somewhere that didn't belong.
- 15:56Speaker 2: All of them.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Because that's how we get in trouble with these other countries.
- 15:59Speaker 3: People are doing backdoor deals and shit like that, swapping money.
- 16:03Speaker 2: It happens all the time.
- 16:05Speaker 3: I just hate how this black man, this one lone
- 16:08Speaker 3: black man, is about to take the fall for a
- 16:10Speaker 3: major criminal enterprise at this point. This shit is way
- 16:17Speaker 3: bigger than these little small little headlines. This shit is
- 16:20Speaker 3: real serious. I don't think people know how serious it is, though.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think people understand how serious this is,
- 16:27Speaker 1: but I cannot wait for it to be adapted into
- 16:30Speaker 1: a movie.
- 16:32Speaker 2: So you can get the summary? Ooh la la la.
- 16:37Speaker 2: I hate you! Bitch! This is fucking serious!
- 16:42Speaker 3: We in trouble right now. Our country has literally been sold.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Our country has been bought and fucking sold, and.
- 16:49Speaker 2: People don't see that. Mm-hmm. They don't see that. We
- 16:53Speaker 2: fucked up right now. Do y'all see BRICS?
- 16:55Speaker 3: BRICS is basically essentially like your.
- 17:01Speaker 3: All these other countries are coming together now and they're like,
- 17:04Speaker 3: fuck the United States.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Fuck the U.S. dollar.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that.
- 17:06Speaker 2: That's a problem. There's no more United Nations.
- 17:11Speaker 3: We literally now on an island by ourselves. And I
- 17:14Speaker 3: don't really blame these other countries. America does some fucked
- 17:17Speaker 3: up stuff to other people. I hate the term destabilize,
- 17:21Speaker 3: like you running up in other people's countries to destabilize
- 17:24Speaker 3: some stable shit. Like the main thing that the United
- 17:28Speaker 3: States produces is like war shit, war tools, guns, ammunition,
- 17:33Speaker 3: big stupid ass missiles and shit like that. That's our
- 17:36Speaker 3: main industry here. And that's all like makings of a
- 17:39Speaker 3: fucking bully. So yeah, this shit is fucking serious, man.
- 17:44Speaker 3: I wish more people would look into what's really going
- 17:46Speaker 3: on with Praz and it's terrible that he's going to
- 17:48Speaker 3: take the fall.
- 17:49Speaker 2: And he said he was a U.S.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Informant for 20 years, a federal informant for 20 years.
- 17:55Speaker 3: But what he informed on was the fact that China
- 17:58Speaker 3: had an American citizen and a Chinese national held captive
- 18:03Speaker 3: at some point. That's what he informed the U.S.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Government of. Nobody's talking about that part. But yeah.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait for the money, so.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Fucking crazy ass. Y'all, RIP to Jerry Springer.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Yes.
- 18:23Speaker 2: RIP to Harry Belafonte.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Yes, both of those people. I feel like it's starting
- 18:30Speaker 1: to be like, if there is a heaven, there's a
- 18:34Speaker 1: lot more cool people in heaven than still on earth.
- 18:38Speaker 2: This is hell. Like, this shit is so fucking stressful.
- 18:43Speaker 3: I remember I was in Angola talking shit about America
- 18:47Speaker 3: we was like sitting at the bar and my homegirl
- 18:49Speaker 3: her phone was on the bar and we just like
- 18:51Speaker 3: man America's so stressful like yeah these people might have
- 18:54Speaker 3: less over here but they chilling like they live on
- 18:55Speaker 3: the beach girl why the fuck Siri came on and
- 18:58Speaker 3: started calling the police on us that bitch started calling
- 19:02Speaker 3: 911 on us for talking shit about America Siri don't.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Play by her country laughing Like, what? What the hell?
- 19:13Speaker 3: They be listening. They be listening, man. All this AI
- 19:16Speaker 3: shit that's happening. If you're reading this, it's too late.
- 19:21Speaker 3: If you're listening to this, it's too late.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Just put me on some.
- 19:25Speaker 1: I just want my man to get some land at
- 19:27Speaker 1: this point and put me on it.
- 19:29Speaker 2: I hear that.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Put me on some land so I can just raise
- 19:33Speaker 1: some animals and grow my own food.
- 19:36Speaker 3: Girl, that homesteading is fucking hard. I got a few
- 19:38Speaker 3: homestead books I ordered off Amazon. Like when shit really
- 19:42Speaker 3: gets stupid, I'll know how to make a windmill and
- 19:44Speaker 3: shit and how to generate energy from water.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I um I need to learn how to make preserves
- 19:51Speaker 1: my grandma got a recipe book I need to look
- 19:53Speaker 1: at it I need to dust it off and look
- 19:55Speaker 1: at how she she used to have like a cabinet
- 19:57Speaker 1: full of preservatives like just jars and jars of stuff
- 20:02Speaker 1: and I can't I couldn't preserve I can't keep nothing
- 20:06Speaker 1: living right now but myself, but we're going to work
- 20:08Speaker 1: on it.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Shame. My plant's so thriving.
- 20:15Speaker 3: My little money plant girl, I got her sitting by
- 20:16Speaker 3: the door right now. I be kissing that plant and
- 20:18Speaker 3: all that type of shit. I'm so proud that I've
- 20:20Speaker 3: been able to keep that plant alive for about a
- 20:21Speaker 3: year now.
- 20:22Speaker 2: I'm happy about it.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Mine lasted like two months, two, three months.
- 20:28Speaker 2: I think I overloved it. You probably put too much
- 20:32Speaker 2: water in it. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
- 20:34Speaker 1: I overwater it. I talk to it every day. And
- 20:37Speaker 1: I used to be like, why is you.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Looking like that?
- 20:41Speaker 3: That shit only need like minimal light and like six
- 20:44Speaker 3: ounces of water every three weeks is what you're supposed
- 20:46Speaker 3: to give it. I put coconut water on my plants.
- 20:50Speaker 3: So she'd be like, oh, bitch, thank you. Y'all like, again,
- 20:54Speaker 3: RIP to Jerry Springer and Harry Belafonte. Harry Belafonte was 96.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Jerry Springer died at 79. And this is a great
- 21:05Speaker 3: segue into what we want to talk about today.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Life insurance.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Health insurance. We want to make sure we, aside from
- 21:15Speaker 3: talking about relationships and shit like that all the damn time,
- 21:17Speaker 3: we do have other things that we're capable of speaking on, right?
- 21:21Speaker 3: So we do have a special guest on We Talk
- 21:23Speaker 3: Back this week who's going to give us.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And our listeners more information. I mean, we are all
- 21:28Speaker 2: at that age.
- 21:29Speaker 3: You don't want to wait until Something bad happens to
- 21:32Speaker 3: think about these things.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Get on top of it today.
- 21:34Speaker 1: All right, y'all. Thank y'all for joining We Talk Back TV.
- 21:41Speaker 1: All right, so we have a special guest on today.
- 21:43Speaker 1: It is actually my cousin. And the reason why I
- 21:45Speaker 1: wanted to bring her on is y'all will be having
- 21:48Speaker 1: these GoFundMes every time someone passes away, someone's sick. That
- 21:53Speaker 1: just seems like to be the black way to handle
- 21:56Speaker 1: things when it comes to health care and paying for death.
- 22:00Speaker 1: And we all got to go up out of here.
- 22:01Speaker 1: So we need to get in front of that. So
- 22:03Speaker 1: I got my cousin Erin Corbett on and she's a
- 22:06Speaker 1: licensed insurance professional. She's been in the industry for almost
- 22:10Speaker 1: 10 years and she has a lot of experience, tons
- 22:13Speaker 1: of experience. And she's literally helped me so much when
- 22:16Speaker 1: it comes to my health insurance and my health care.
- 22:19Speaker 1: So I wanted to have a conversation with her so
- 22:21Speaker 1: we can get some knowledge for you all on how
- 22:23Speaker 1: To get on top of that so we can start
- 22:24Speaker 1: with this GoFundMe shit.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Hey, Erin, girl.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Hey, girl.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Welcome to We Talk Back. Glad for you guys to
- 22:33Speaker 2: have me here today. It's a family affair. Absolutely.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I want to get some real information to our listeners
- 22:39Speaker 1: that can help because, you know, I was out here
- 22:42Speaker 1: running around here. Like, I know a lot of people,
- 22:44Speaker 1: they use the emergency room as their only source of
- 22:48Speaker 1: of health care, like they wait till they're almost half dead,
- 22:51Speaker 1: and they just go to the emergency room, and then
- 22:53Speaker 1: they have these astronomical bills that they never plan to pay. And,
- 22:58Speaker 1: you know, that's just not the.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Healthy way to do it.
- 23:01Speaker 1: First, you tell everybody about yourself and your career.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Sure. So, again, my name is Erin Corbett. Like I said,
- 23:09Speaker 2: I've been in the insurance industry almost 10 years. I
- 23:13Speaker 2: do carry three licenses. I'll do health, life, and supplementals.
- 23:16Speaker 2: So basically I work with everything that deals with whatever
- 23:21Speaker 2: can happen to you while you're alive or after someone
- 23:23Speaker 2: passes away.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Okay.
- 23:26Speaker 2: So life insurance is not just for the dead, y'all. No,
- 23:29Speaker 2: life insurance is not just for the dead.
- 23:30Speaker 3: You can also use life insurance while you're living.
- 23:32Speaker 2: For the living. So how life insurance for the living?
- 23:36Speaker 2: Because don't, like... You don't get paid out until you did. No,
- 23:40Speaker 2: that's not true.
- 23:40Speaker 3: So let's talk about whole life insurance, for instance, and
- 23:45Speaker 3: different ways people actually build wealth. We can start there.
- 23:48Speaker 3: Build wealth from having life insurance policies. I think a
- 23:50Speaker 3: lot of black people, they miss that because they just
- 23:52Speaker 3: don't know because they only think about life insurance when
- 23:55Speaker 3: somebody dies.
- 23:56Speaker 2: That's correct. Life insurance, it's a tool for finance, right?
- 24:01Speaker 2: Because if you buy whole life policies, as you were
- 24:04Speaker 2: speaking of, what it does is it generates... your own
- 24:09Speaker 2: source of a loan, right? And if there's different variations
- 24:12Speaker 2: of life insurances, but let's say, for example, you have
- 24:14Speaker 2: like a 20 pay life insurance. It'll be paid off
- 24:17Speaker 2: in 20 years. Let's say it was 50,000, but you
- 24:20Speaker 2: only put 20,000 in it. So if you started at 30,
- 24:24Speaker 2: paid it off by 50, now you have $ 50, 000 just
- 24:26Speaker 2: sitting there for whatever you want. You can purchase a
- 24:28Speaker 2: home with it and cash it out. You can use
- 24:30Speaker 2: it to pay down debt if that's something that you
- 24:33Speaker 2: had going on. Pay for children's college and different things
- 24:35Speaker 2: like that. Start your own business, but it becomes your
- 24:37Speaker 2: own source of money. to borrow from, cash out, without
- 24:41Speaker 2: taking out a loan that has interest, different things like that.
- 24:44Speaker 2: So that is a way that they do use it
- 24:46Speaker 2: to build wealth.
- 24:47Speaker 3: So, you know, we talk about reparations a lot, like
- 24:49Speaker 3: black people, oh, we need to get paid for slavery,
- 24:51Speaker 3: and that's in a third.
- 24:51Speaker 2: But I think that a lot of people don't have deliverables.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Like if we were to actually ask for reparations, what
- 24:57Speaker 3: are some of the deliverables? And whole life insurance is
- 24:59Speaker 3: one of the things I would ask for. We need
- 25:01Speaker 3: whole life insurance.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Free tuition. When you say whole life insurance, what is like?
- 25:05Speaker 2: Because it's a tool to build wealth, right?
- 25:07Speaker 3: So imagine if every black person, this is my one
- 25:10Speaker 3: thought process for life insurance. There's not enough black people
- 25:13Speaker 3: with life insurance. So we think about how the police
- 25:15Speaker 3: keep killing black people, right? If more black people had
- 25:18Speaker 3: life insurance, the police would be less likely to kill us.
- 25:22Speaker 3: There's just no repercussions for killing black people. They literally
- 25:25Speaker 3: have a license to kill black people. And your family
- 25:28Speaker 3: can't benefit from the death either because you don't have
- 25:30Speaker 3: life insurance. If more black people had life insurance, it
- 25:34Speaker 3: would probably be less police killings because the insurance company
- 25:37Speaker 3: is going to start suing the police departments if they
- 25:40Speaker 3: have to keep paying out on these loans. I'm sorry,
- 25:42Speaker 3: on these policies, paying out on the policies, not the loans.
- 25:47Speaker 2: It could make higher risk rating, so it might just
- 25:49Speaker 2: cost more for black people to get life insurance, right?
- 25:53Speaker 2: It costs more for us to live anyway. Yes, but
- 25:55Speaker 2: just to kind of touch on something that you said,
- 25:59Speaker 2: I think that we just don't prepare enough. or value
- 26:02Speaker 2: certain things in the right way. When we talk about
- 26:05Speaker 2: the difference between black people and other ethnicities, what they
- 26:12Speaker 2: do is they prepare, right? So there's common conversations in
- 26:16Speaker 2: a white household to have life insurance, to have short-term disability,
- 26:20Speaker 2: to make sure they have these different policies like cancer policies,
- 26:24Speaker 2: critical illness, just in case, right? Because the thing that
- 26:28Speaker 2: happens is something's going to happen to you, When it's
- 26:31Speaker 2: going to happen to you is what you don't know.
- 26:34Speaker 2: And how do you prepare to not ruin everything that
- 26:36Speaker 2: you built your whole life around? Your house, right? All
- 26:41Speaker 2: the savings that you may have saved didn't go on
- 26:44Speaker 2: vacations just to have this sitting here. How do you
- 26:46Speaker 2: protect yourself in that way? And we just don't do
- 26:49Speaker 2: a good job of that. We'll go buy $ 120 Jordans,
- 26:50Speaker 2: $ 250 Jordans, the new Yeezys on the drop for $ 400
- 26:51Speaker 2: on a resale, and a policy... like this, in the
- 26:58Speaker 2: right age range, it's about $ 20, $ 30 a month. We
- 27:03Speaker 2: just do not prepare in the right way. The way
- 27:06Speaker 2: we spend our money is not for the right things.
- 27:09Speaker 2: So when things do happen, we're ill-prepared.
- 27:12Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. To get a life
- 27:14Speaker 1: insurance policy, do you have to go get a physical
- 27:16Speaker 1: examination to see what your health is in order to
- 27:20Speaker 1: be eligible?
- 27:22Speaker 2: Well, that actually depends on the amount that you want.
- 27:27Speaker 2: It also depends on your health. So some policies are
- 27:32Speaker 2: guaranteed issue, which means you don't have to go through
- 27:36Speaker 2: a health exam. You just have to pass the underwriting
- 27:39Speaker 2: questions or whatever they may be. When you start getting
- 27:42Speaker 2: over a certain dollar amount, like $ 100, 000, then there become
- 27:45Speaker 2: more underwriting questions. And I know in our community we
- 27:49Speaker 2: like to say, I just got a little bit of diabetes,
- 27:51Speaker 2: a little bit of high blood.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Pressure, right?
- 27:53Speaker 2: But those are actually things that can knock you out.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Or put you in a clause, and that clause could
- 27:59Speaker 2: be two, three years, but God forbid you had a
- 28:01Speaker 2: heart attack in that two or three years.
- 28:04Speaker 1: Then you don't get shit.
- 28:05Speaker 2: You just get the money that you paid into it. Okay.
- 28:08Speaker 1: So that could be very small if you're saying it's
- 28:10Speaker 1: something like $ 20, $ 30 a month.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Yes.
- 28:13Speaker 1: You get a check for $ 300, $ 400.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 28:16Speaker 3: So how do you determine what type of life insurance
- 28:18Speaker 3: policy you need? So if I'm 38, right, no kids.
- 28:25Speaker 2: At my age, what type of policy would you suggest?
- 28:28Speaker 2: At your age, I absolutely suggest a whole life because
- 28:31Speaker 2: it's affordable for you. So the problem that happens is,
- 28:36Speaker 2: you know, a lot of individuals start looking at these
- 28:37Speaker 2: things at 50, wrong move. That's absolutely the wrong move.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Age is your benefit. And with younger age, you also
- 28:45Speaker 2: have better health. So you can get more coverage for cheaper.
- 28:53Speaker 2: So whole life for sure. And then you also have
- 28:57Speaker 2: to start thinking about what are you trying to cover
- 29:00Speaker 2: in the event that I'm not here. So if someone
- 29:02Speaker 2: is self-employed, has a business, you should start to stack policies.
- 29:08Speaker 2: And what I mean by stack policies, you should always
- 29:11Speaker 2: have a whole life policy as a base, but then
- 29:13Speaker 2: have a term life that's high limit over it. Right, okay.
- 29:18Speaker 1: So hold on, explain that in a way. So tell people,
- 29:20Speaker 1: what does a term life mean?
- 29:23Speaker 2: Sure.
- 29:23Speaker 1: Sure.
- 29:24Speaker 2: So let's go back. So a term life policy is
- 29:26Speaker 2: a life policy that expires after a certain amount of time.
- 29:30Speaker 2: So it's 10, 15, 20, 25 years, right? But with
- 29:36Speaker 2: those type of policies, they bet on your life expectancy.
- 29:39Speaker 2: So most people outlive those policies. So have you ever
- 29:42Speaker 2: seen where your grandparents, aunties say, I had this policy,
- 29:44Speaker 2: but it didn't pay out. And then they find out
- 29:47Speaker 2: it's a term life. It happened a lot in the
- 29:48Speaker 2: black community, right? So they had all this insurance and
- 29:52Speaker 2: then they let it sit there for 20, 30, 40 years.
- 29:56Speaker 2: So when they go to pass away and they come like, oh,
- 29:58Speaker 2: they have this policy. they realize it's only term life
- 30:01Speaker 2: and term life policies are cheap. It's more economical. So yes,
- 30:04Speaker 2: that's what people go for. However, they never understand the
- 30:08Speaker 2: fact that it's almost like a waste of money.
- 30:11Speaker 3: So they pay into this thing the whole time. And
- 30:13Speaker 3: then when you try to draw, there's nothing there. It
- 30:16Speaker 3: ends at a certain amount of time.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Okay. So you have to pull it out when it
- 30:20Speaker 2: ends or just, there's no value in a term life policy.
- 30:23Speaker 2: So what I was saying about stacking benefits, right? So
- 30:27Speaker 2: say you have a young family, you know, you need $ 500, 000,
- 30:33Speaker 2: you know, that you want to leave to your family
- 30:35Speaker 2: in the event that something happens between the age of
- 30:37Speaker 2: 30 to 55. You can still have a whole life
- 30:41Speaker 2: policy as a base in a certain amount, maybe say $ 100, 000.
- 30:44Speaker 2: But then you can get a higher level term life,
- 30:46Speaker 2: which is cheaper to carry for $ 500, 000. So saying that
- 30:50Speaker 2: in the event that I'm not here to take care
- 30:51Speaker 2: of my kid's schooling or I need this mortgage to
- 30:55Speaker 2: be paid off if I'm not here I don't want
- 30:56Speaker 2: to leave it on my wife that's what I mean
- 30:58Speaker 2: by stacking policies because it's going to expire but what
- 31:01Speaker 2: you want to do is be able to get in
- 31:03Speaker 2: the event that something happens in an age where you're
- 31:05Speaker 2: going to leave your family or a business you want
- 31:09Speaker 2: to have both.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Got it I'm confused as fuck so all right the
- 31:15Speaker 1: whole life policy Is the policy that you were saying
- 31:19Speaker 1: that you can pull out of and it's kind of
- 31:20Speaker 1: like almost like an investment?
- 31:22Speaker 2: It's an investment, yes.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Right, but then the term life is the one that
- 31:26Speaker 1: you would want to have just in case you die
- 31:28Speaker 1: within that period?
- 31:29Speaker 2: Yeah, so say like your example 30, we'll use this.
- 31:34Speaker 2: As we age, we know that you'd start to develop
- 31:36Speaker 2: health issues, right? So let's just say someone got diagnosed
- 31:40Speaker 2: with cancer at 45, right? They got two kids. One's
- 31:44Speaker 2: in college, one's in high school. They're married. have a
- 31:48Speaker 2: brand new home. Say this person doesn't make it through, right?
- 31:53Speaker 2: That term life is actually good in that sense because.
- 31:56Speaker 3: A $ 500, 000.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Policy is very expensive if it's a whole life. So
- 32:01Speaker 2: it becomes about what you can actually afford. Your whole life. Right.
- 32:05Speaker 2: So that's older.
- 32:06Speaker 3: The longer you live, it's good to have a whole
- 32:09Speaker 3: life insurance as opposed to terms.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Well, because it's shorter, right?
- 32:14Speaker 1: Right, but if you died at 45, was the whole
- 32:16Speaker 1: life necessary?
- 32:17Speaker 2: So let me explain. If you died at 45.
- 32:19Speaker 1: But it ain't that whole, it's a half.
- 32:24Speaker 2: No, guys, hold on, wait, hold on, hold on. Let
- 32:25Speaker 2: me explain, right? Let me explain, let me clarify really quick.
- 32:29Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is, like, you should always have
- 32:31Speaker 2: a whole life policy, right? That's your cash, that's your equity,
- 32:34Speaker 2: that's your asset. But to afford a 500K whole life
- 32:42Speaker 2: policy It's a few thousand a month. You have to
- 32:45Speaker 2: be in a certain tax bracket for that. Most average
- 32:49Speaker 2: folk cannot afford that, right? But what they can afford
- 32:52Speaker 2: maybe is $ 100, 000, $ 150, 000 whole life policy that they can
- 32:58Speaker 2: have there. But let's say they have a $ 300, 000 home, right?
- 33:03Speaker 2: And they pass away at 45. Somebody has to pay
- 33:05Speaker 2: that off still, right? So that's why you put that
- 33:09Speaker 2: term life on top because what it's doing is carrying
- 33:12Speaker 2: your bigger assets or debts, let me say it correctly,
- 33:16Speaker 2: debts that you may have to pay, right? If you
- 33:19Speaker 2: have medical expenses that need to be paid off in
- 33:22Speaker 2: a certain amount and you pass away within that time frame.
- 33:25Speaker 1: So if I die, knock on wood, my debt don't
- 33:28Speaker 1: die with me?
- 33:29Speaker 2: No, I care, bitch.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Come here so I can do it.
- 33:36Speaker 2: So for someone that's married, it doesn't. It goes to
- 33:40Speaker 2: the spouse. Someone that's single... It is what it is.
- 33:44Speaker 2: So that's why I said, especially when someone that's married
- 33:47Speaker 2: with kids, you definitely want to put something over that
- 33:49Speaker 2: because your spouse is now on the hook for everything
- 33:51Speaker 2: that happened to you. Right.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Damn, that's crazy. I didn't know that. I saw a
- 33:57Speaker 1: lady posting about a nigga who died and owed her $ 4, 000.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Did y'all see that? It was circulating like she was
- 34:04Speaker 1: mad about it. And I was.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Like, there's his estate. Shit. She couldn't put a lien
- 34:09Speaker 2: against his estate? No. If there's no... If there was
- 34:13Speaker 2: no document that said... What if they had a document? Nah,
- 34:16Speaker 2: this was street niggas.
- 34:17Speaker 1: She was like, give me some of that, go fund
- 34:19Speaker 1: me because I want my money back.
- 34:21Speaker 2: That's how it was. Well, girl, go get your money then,
- 34:23Speaker 2: but I am blood. Pay me back in blood.
- 34:26Speaker 3: In the beginning, we were talking about how life insurance
- 34:29Speaker 3: is not just for the dead.
- 34:30Speaker 2: So we talked about the investment portion of it.
- 34:33Speaker 3: What other benefits does life insurance provide.
- 34:37Speaker 2: For the living? You can also, again, you can also
- 34:40Speaker 2: borrow against it, right? Aside from that, yes. So those
- 34:44Speaker 2: are the two biggest leverages. It's just a financial tool
- 34:46Speaker 2: in general because when you think about, like, right now,
- 34:49Speaker 2: if you had to go borrow, go to the bank
- 34:52Speaker 2: to borrow $ 10, 000, you have to be at a certain
- 34:55Speaker 2: tax bracket or monthly income for that at a maybe 25%, 24%, 17%
- 35:00Speaker 2: interest rate. I mean, it almost becomes... a financial burden
- 35:10Speaker 2: to even do that, even if you needed the money. Right.
- 35:12Speaker 2: But say you had, you know, a life insurance, you
- 35:15Speaker 2: can borrow that money from it. And the interest that's
- 35:18Speaker 2: on it is like very minimal, like 0.01%. It doesn't
- 35:22Speaker 2: do anything. And every time you make a payment is
- 35:25Speaker 2: putting the money back into it. And it's something that
- 35:27Speaker 2: you're going to maintain naturally because you want to have it. Um,
- 35:30Speaker 2: so it's just a, it's a leverage tool in all ways. Um,
- 35:34Speaker 2: if you can afford it to have a whole life policy, um,
- 35:39Speaker 2: Just ask that backup. Do a lot with it.
- 35:42Speaker 1: So let's say it's a listener and they're like, I
- 35:44Speaker 1: wouldn't even know the first place to go to get
- 35:46Speaker 1: a life insurance policy. What would they need to do?
- 35:49Speaker 1: How would they go navigate that?
- 35:52Speaker 2: Man, well, it depends, right? Because everybody's of different health
- 35:57Speaker 2: and different means, like monetarily, right? So you should do
- 36:03Speaker 2: your research, right? Unfortunately, somebody that does have pre-existing conditions
- 36:08Speaker 2: just know you're about to pay more, right? What if
- 36:12Speaker 2: your health changes after you get the policy?
- 36:14Speaker 1: It doesn't matter?
- 36:15Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. Okay. But if you're coming in with
- 36:18Speaker 2: pre-existing conditions, you are absolutely going to pay more no
- 36:21Speaker 2: matter your age bracket. So say, for example, you're in
- 36:25Speaker 2: your 30s and you have pre-existing conditions. This person that's
- 36:29Speaker 2: healthy at 30 might pay $ 20, you might pay $ 60.
- 36:32Speaker 2: That's just how it goes, and typically that's going to
- 36:35Speaker 2: have a clause. So God forbid if you pass within
- 36:37Speaker 2: that clause, again, it's probably not going to be payable.
- 36:41Speaker 2: So you just have to do your research. Also, too,
- 36:44Speaker 2: you want to make sure that you know if you're
- 36:48Speaker 2: gone what you want to have paid off and what
- 36:50Speaker 2: you want to do with that money because then you
- 36:52Speaker 2: can say, I need this amount of money that I
- 36:54Speaker 2: want to leave to cover me if I'm not here.
- 36:57Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for my mom because she literally is
- 37:00Speaker 3: like one of them people. She got like a manila
- 37:02Speaker 3: folder with her policies, where the money at, how she wanted,
- 37:08Speaker 3: like she already got her plots, all that stuff. One
- 37:11Speaker 3: of my best friends just lost her mom. And her
- 37:14Speaker 3: and her sister are having to cover the cost of
- 37:16Speaker 3: her mom's funeral. Which, you know, in death, I don't
- 37:20Speaker 3: want to be a burden to anybody.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Nobody wants that burden. But, again, a lot of people
- 37:25Speaker 2: in our community are faced with that. And you see
- 37:26Speaker 2: GoFundMes and these different fundraisers, the church plates on the
- 37:30Speaker 2: corner because Bobby just died. And, again, it just goes
- 37:34Speaker 2: back to that we just don't spend our money in
- 37:36Speaker 2: the right way. You know, we'll go to the bar,
- 37:40Speaker 2: buy $ 100 worth of drinks, and still ain't got no
- 37:42Speaker 2: life insurance, you know, or health insurance for that matter.
- 37:45Speaker 1: What is death insurance? Because that's a thing too, right?
- 37:49Speaker 2: It's burial. Burial. funeral, burial insurance, which is still another
- 37:53Speaker 2: form of life insurance, but it just only goes up
- 37:58Speaker 2: to a certain amount, like $ 50, 000. And as you age,
- 38:01Speaker 2: that's the things that become only available for people if
- 38:05Speaker 2: they didn't get it when they were young. They will
- 38:06Speaker 2: only be able to get over a certain amount, maybe $ 40, 000,
- 38:09Speaker 2: $ 50, 000 at the max.
- 38:11Speaker 3: You know, I talked about, I wanted to, it's not
- 38:13Speaker 3: really a company, because I don't even know if it's
- 38:15Speaker 3: legal or not, but door-to-door, in the hood... Like, hey,
- 38:20Speaker 3: can I put life insurance on your son?
- 38:22Speaker 2: I'll pay the premium and bust it down the middle
- 38:24Speaker 2: when he dies.
- 38:26Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? This bitch is out. But
- 38:32Speaker 1: I think the problem.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Would come in because this comes in families, right?
- 38:35Speaker 3: One person is paying a policy, and everybody wondering where
- 38:38Speaker 3: the money at when this person died. Did you help
- 38:40Speaker 3: pay that policy at all? Why are you concerned about
- 38:42Speaker 3: what they're doing with the money if you didn't help
- 38:43Speaker 3: pay the policy?
- 38:45Speaker 2: Correct, but I think that when people die, I think
- 38:53Speaker 2: it's just a poor feeling that people have in general
- 38:56Speaker 2: that you should get something now this person's not here.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Right, so I want to assure that the niggas in
- 39:03Speaker 3: the hood, kids are being taken care of. If somebody's
- 39:07Speaker 3: benefiting from your death, you're dying at 30 years old,
- 39:10Speaker 3: no life insurance, but you got all these kids out
- 39:11Speaker 3: here and then somebody has to GoFundMe or whatever, but
- 39:15Speaker 3: what if there was someone, I feel like white people
- 39:17Speaker 3: do that all the time. Remember those two old ladies
- 39:18Speaker 3: who were killing homeless men.
- 39:20Speaker 2: And collecting policies? Let me tell you why. I don't
- 39:23Speaker 2: want to kill them. I mean, Pookie going to do
- 39:25Speaker 2: what Pookie do. I think it was something on Netflix
- 39:27Speaker 2: about that, but let me tell you why that's illegal
- 39:29Speaker 2: because it's about insurable interest, right?
- 39:32Speaker 3: So, like, I don't know these niggas. Yeah, if you
- 39:35Speaker 3: don't know these niggas, then they be like, you don't
- 39:37Speaker 3: know these niggas, so you can't get this money.
- 39:39Speaker 2: But I paid into the policy. It doesn't matter. It's
- 39:43Speaker 2: all about insurable interest, right? So, let me give you
- 39:46Speaker 2: examples of people that you have insurable interest on. You
- 39:49Speaker 2: would have insurable interest on your mom. You're her daughter, right?
- 39:53Speaker 2: You and Tammy actually have insurable interest on each other
- 39:56Speaker 2: because you guys have a business together, right? Let me
- 40:00Speaker 2: tell you who you don't have insurable interest over. Nobody
- 40:03Speaker 2: else in here. Right, nobody else in here. This is
- 40:05Speaker 2: my friend. He signed it. He let me sign it up. Like,
- 40:09Speaker 2: why not? Watch your back there. He can do the policy.
- 40:13Speaker 2: He can do the policy and leave you as a beneficiary,
- 40:16Speaker 2: but you cannot sign him up for a policy. It's illegal.
- 40:20Speaker 2: It's all about insurable interest. With him knowing I can
- 40:22Speaker 2: do it, right? No? No. It's all about insurable interest.
- 40:26Speaker 1: So what about these record labels? There's all these stories
- 40:29Speaker 1: about record labels. That's insurable interest. The Gucci Man story, right?
- 40:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:34Speaker 2: And they said there was a life policy somewhere of
- 40:36Speaker 2: a certain amount and everybody was mad. The reason why
- 40:39Speaker 2: he could do that... Or Young Dolph. Yeah. Or even
- 40:41Speaker 2: Young Dolph, right? But the reason why Gucci Man could
- 40:44Speaker 2: do that, because again, it goes back to the conversation
- 40:46Speaker 2: we were just having, is insurable interest. Now I have,
- 40:49Speaker 2: this artist is underneath me. I have invested in this person.
- 40:52Speaker 2: This person is now my business. So if all the
- 40:56Speaker 2: money I invested in this person, this person shall pass
- 40:58Speaker 2: away before I recoup my advances, then, you know.
- 41:03Speaker 1: But wouldn't it be like a scheme to, you know,
- 41:06Speaker 1: get these rappers who have like a dark sound and
- 41:11Speaker 1: get insurance policy on them, put their music out for
- 41:15Speaker 1: a year, And then get them killed so you can
- 41:17Speaker 1: get insurance for the money.
- 41:19Speaker 2: I mean, it could be, but I'm not thinking that far.
- 41:23Speaker 2: But if we're going to be honest- You know who
- 41:27Speaker 2: is thinking that far?
- 41:29Speaker 3: These motherfuckers right here. They way more cerebral than us.
- 41:32Speaker 3: So anything they do, they really use in their mind.
- 41:35Speaker 2: Okay?
- 41:38Speaker 3: When Aaliyah died, they said her uncle had some crazy-ass
- 41:41Speaker 3: policy on her when she died on that plane.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Because she's a business. Because, again, these artists become a business, right?
- 41:50Speaker 2: And so that's how Gucci Mane, I don't know the
- 41:53Speaker 2: boy's name that just died, I can't remember. He was
- 41:55Speaker 2: able to do that because this person is now a
- 41:59Speaker 2: business for him. But is it written into their contracts,
- 42:02Speaker 2: you think, that they may not know? Absolutely.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Yes.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Yes.
- 42:06Speaker 3: So, okay, so if it's insurable interest and you can
- 42:08Speaker 3: write it into a contract.
- 42:11Speaker 2: Without the person knowing. They have to have lawyers to
- 42:14Speaker 2: vet these things. And if you're signing something without vetting it,
- 42:17Speaker 2: and again, it makes sense. If I just invested $ 100, 000
- 42:20Speaker 2: in you. And you die. And you die, I'm going
- 42:24Speaker 2: with wherever that debt comes from. Like, I'm still responsible
- 42:27Speaker 2: for it. So, yes, I should have something that protects
- 42:30Speaker 2: me in that event. It makes sense. Yeah, absolutely, it does.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense.
- 42:34Speaker 2: It does. But it's just crazy how... I can see
- 42:37Speaker 2: how it could be a scam, though. Exactly. And one
- 42:39Speaker 2: record label in particular, which people say it's not a
- 42:42Speaker 2: record label, it's just they have partnerships with these people.
- 42:45Speaker 3: But Empire Records is one of those places where there's
- 42:49Speaker 3: been so many different artists that have passed away.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Who's on Empire Records? I don't know.
- 42:54Speaker 3: Dolph was on there. Temptation. A few of them that
- 43:00Speaker 3: have passed away were all... So it's supposedly a distribution company,
- 43:05Speaker 3: but they also have record deals with people.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Right. Right. So I'm giving you upfront money, right? And
- 43:13Speaker 2: something happens to you.
- 43:14Speaker 3: My life insurance policy on you is bigger than the
- 43:16Speaker 3: money I gave you.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Why not get you the fuck out of here? Because
- 43:19Speaker 2: you got to think, like, they also... Yes, I gave
- 43:23Speaker 2: you this amount, but I have to make a certain
- 43:25Speaker 2: amount back, right? So they didn't just give these people money.
- 43:28Speaker 2: They always gave them the money with the intent of
- 43:30Speaker 2: making a certain amount. So I'm sure those policies match
- 43:34Speaker 2: whatever they said they were supposed to make back or
- 43:38Speaker 2: expected to make back if things went well. So, again,
- 43:42Speaker 2: it makes sense.
- 43:43Speaker 1: But I spent $ 100, 000, but I expect to make a million.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Ain't that how it go? Yeah. And you didn't make
- 43:50Speaker 2: me a million, so let me go ahead and.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Get you up out of here.
- 43:53Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I hate to say it like that,
- 43:55Speaker 2: but sorry that somebody passed away, but there's still expectations
- 43:59Speaker 2: on the other side of that. Unfortunately. Yeah.
- 44:07Speaker 1: Can we get into health insurance?
- 44:09Speaker 2: Yes, please go on, because I pay $ 7 a month.
- 44:12Speaker 2: And don't be hating. I want to talk about Obamacare. Yeah. Seven.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Obamacare. So there were a lot of people upset when
- 44:20Speaker 1: Obamacare came out and they felt like it was a
- 44:24Speaker 1: problem for our American economy for that to happen. What
- 44:28Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Affordable Health Care Act?
- 44:31Speaker 2: I think it's a great thing. Because if you guys remember,
- 44:35Speaker 2: some of you guys remember a little bit over 10
- 44:39Speaker 2: years ago, if you had pre-existing conditions, you didn't qualify
- 44:42Speaker 2: for health insurance, right? So all these people with chronic
- 44:45Speaker 2: illnesses like MS, you know, for example, or lupus, God
- 44:49Speaker 2: forbid you got diagnosed with cancer. You were now uninsurable
- 44:52Speaker 2: for healthcare. Right. That's the biggest deal about the affordable
- 44:55Speaker 2: care act. It gave the opportunity for individuals to have
- 45:00Speaker 2: insurance that actually needed the care. Yeah. Um, you know,
- 45:04Speaker 2: unfortunately my mom, she passed away before there was anything
- 45:07Speaker 2: like that. And she had a heart condition. She did
- 45:08Speaker 2: not qualify for health insurance. So everything was out of pocket. Um,
- 45:13Speaker 2: So being in that type of situation and seeing firsthand
- 45:18Speaker 2: somebody who could have benefited from that, because she couldn't
- 45:22Speaker 2: even afford a prescription. They were like $ 100 a month,
- 45:24Speaker 2: you know, or more. With four kids. Four kids. Yeah.
- 45:28Speaker 2: That's unfortunate.
- 45:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree that most countries, you know,
- 45:33Speaker 3: people act like America is just such this great place.
- 45:35Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 45:36Speaker 3: You know, in other countries, you got 18-year-olds that ride
- 45:39Speaker 3: around in Lambos. That's just regular day-to-day business for them.
- 45:42Speaker 3: America is not that fucking great. We do not have
- 45:44Speaker 3: universal health care. We do have ObamaCare now. It's called
- 45:49Speaker 3: the Affordable Care Act. The Affordable Care Act. The only
- 45:51Speaker 3: thing I didn't like about the Affordable Care Act is
- 45:53Speaker 3: where you were penalized for not having insurance on your taxes.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Like, you had to file... Because it was forcing people
- 46:00Speaker 2: to do something for themselves. And the reason why is...
- 46:05Speaker 2: preventative health, some of those plans were not affordable. Now
- 46:10Speaker 2: it's not affordable, right? But go ahead and thank your
- 46:14Speaker 2: former president for that. He broke a tax law. And
- 46:18Speaker 2: so the insurance companies, because they're having a higher risk
- 46:22Speaker 2: rate and they have to up the money, where are
- 46:24Speaker 2: they getting it from? Because now they have to insure
- 46:26Speaker 2: these people. Before they would just deny them. No cancer
- 46:29Speaker 2: treatment for you, right? So they still have to recoup
- 46:32Speaker 2: the money for spending on all these people that have
- 46:34Speaker 2: different conditions. You know, a lot of our people have diabetes, right?
- 46:38Speaker 2: That's a very expensive disease. And they have to cover
- 46:41Speaker 2: these people when they did not have to do that. So,
- 46:44Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense. But, you know, even I'll
- 46:48Speaker 2: give an example of my father, right? He was under
- 46:51Speaker 2: the ACA. His job didn't have.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Insurance.
- 46:55Speaker 2: And anyway, he went into the hospital for AFib or whatever.
- 46:59Speaker 2: His deductible was $ 2, 500. He hit the deductible, but the
- 47:02Speaker 2: bill was almost $ 40, 000. only thing he was required to
- 47:05Speaker 2: pay was a $ 2, 500 deductible. It has a benefit. And
- 47:08Speaker 2: everything after that was paid for 100% underneath the Affordable
- 47:12Speaker 2: Care Act. So absolutely it's great, right? Because the number
- 47:16Speaker 2: one debt that most of us carry is a medical debt.
- 47:19Speaker 2: It's not from credit cards. It's not from car notes.
- 47:21Speaker 2: It's not from homes or student loans. It's actually medical debt.
- 47:25Speaker 2: So this is helping people not get into medical debt.
- 47:28Speaker 3: I feel like as a whole, it's medical tyranny anyway.
- 47:30Speaker 3: It's just like, The doctor's office, the hospitals are overcharging
- 47:35Speaker 3: insurance companies, so that's driving.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Rates up and stuff like that.
- 47:39Speaker 3: The amount you pay for health care in America, just
- 47:42Speaker 3: like a simple procedure, you can go to another country
- 47:44Speaker 3: and get the same procedure half the price.
- 47:46Speaker 2: But will it be quality of care?
- 47:47Speaker 1: Yeah, some places. And I'll speak to that. I'll speak
- 47:49Speaker 1: to that because when I was living in England is
- 47:52Speaker 1: when I got diagnosed with my MS, and I was
- 47:55Speaker 1: in the hospital there for two weeks, and it's free.
- 47:58Speaker 2: But baby.
- 47:59Speaker 1: That shit felt every bit of free. I was ready
- 48:02Speaker 1: to come home and just take my chances there because
- 48:05Speaker 1: they was feeding me the Rice Krispie Treat cereal in
- 48:07Speaker 1: the morning, but no rice.
- 48:08Speaker 2: It wasn't the treats. It was just the little rice. Bitch,
- 48:12Speaker 2: I was like, get me the fuck out of here.
- 48:14Speaker 1: It was a dry.
- 48:14Speaker 2: It was a dry.
- 48:15Speaker 1: It was just like the dry little rice pieces with
- 48:17Speaker 1: like some water milk.
- 48:19Speaker 2: I was like, is this breakfast? Is there no eggs
- 48:22Speaker 2: and bacon in this motherfucker? Like, is it? And then
- 48:24Speaker 2: it was like literally six of us.
- 48:27Speaker 1: Hmm. Six beds lined up on one side and six
- 48:30Speaker 1: beds lined up on the other side. And we're all
- 48:32Speaker 1: in the same room.
- 48:34Speaker 2: That sounds like tuberculosis to me.
- 48:36Speaker 1: All in the same room. And there was a woman
- 48:40Speaker 1: across from me. It was an old white lady. And
- 48:42Speaker 1: she said her name was Ms.
- 48:44Speaker 2: Schoen.
- 48:44Speaker 1: And I was Ms. Bowen. So every now and then
- 48:46Speaker 1: when they were coming in and hollering at people, she
- 48:48Speaker 1: would be screaming for my medication. And I'd be like, bitch,
- 48:51Speaker 1: that's my meds.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Stop. She's like, I'm the white one.
- 48:54Speaker 1: She kept saying that she was the white one. And
- 48:58Speaker 1: then people would be in there moaning all night. It
- 49:00Speaker 1: was just a miserable experience. And I think it's because
- 49:03Speaker 1: it's free. So we got to find a balance, you know.
- 49:07Speaker 2: I think, you know, from a professional lens, I think
- 49:10Speaker 2: there is a balance. I think people just make poor
- 49:13Speaker 2: choices with the health insurance that they choose, right? So, like,
- 49:17Speaker 2: it's confusing. Right. and I think it's meant to be
- 49:20Speaker 2: sometimes yes no think about what you need right think
- 49:25Speaker 2: think about where you are with your health with if
- 49:29Speaker 2: something happens to you what you were comfortable paying for
- 49:32Speaker 2: like really think about it before you go just sign
- 49:34Speaker 2: up for a plan because it's seven dollars Because, you know, like,
- 49:41Speaker 2: I know that's typically the bottom level bronze plan.
- 49:44Speaker 3: It got a $ 10, 000 deductible. Can you really afford to
- 49:49Speaker 3: pay that if something happens?
- 49:50Speaker 2: No. And $ 10, 000 is a long way.
- 49:53Speaker 1: It's like, what if?
- 49:54Speaker 2: Yeah, you listen, you pay for your car insurance each
- 49:57Speaker 2: month for years on a what if. You don't question it.
- 50:00Speaker 2: It's the same thing. Can you not.
- 50:03Speaker 3: Okay, just like anything else, any other debt, I feel
- 50:05Speaker 3: like everything in life is negotiable, right?
- 50:07Speaker 2: So, yes, I go to the doctor. I get this
- 50:09Speaker 2: crazy-ass bill.
- 50:10Speaker 3: I can't call and negotiate this debt with the insurance company.
- 50:13Speaker 3: I mean, not an insurance company, but with the hospital
- 50:15Speaker 3: because I know they literally, I know, I have some
- 50:18Speaker 3: MD friends, right? And they tell me they overcharge. And
- 50:20Speaker 3: then they negotiate it with the insurance company. They do,
- 50:23Speaker 3: but then that's... So why I can't do it as
- 50:24Speaker 3: pay-it-out-of-pocket type person?
- 50:25Speaker 2: But that's on you. Like, so, for example, I did
- 50:28Speaker 2: that before, you know, where my insurance was not worth
- 50:32Speaker 2: me filing it because I would pay more money. Like
- 50:35Speaker 2: I could pay $ 50 every time I went, or I
- 50:37Speaker 2: could pay a battery test and it cost me $ 700
- 50:41Speaker 2: underneath my insurance. Sometimes you just got to ask more questions, right?
- 50:45Speaker 2: You know, it's not always beneficial to file certain things
- 50:49Speaker 2: underneath your health insurance if you have the cash to
- 50:52Speaker 2: pay for it, right? But you also, again, going back
- 50:57Speaker 2: to what I'm saying, instead of taking the cheap route,
- 51:00Speaker 2: get you a quality plan that may cost you a
- 51:03Speaker 2: little bit more money. And, you know, yes, you might
- 51:06Speaker 2: have a $ 1, 000, $ 2, 000 deductible, but that'll go quick. You
- 51:10Speaker 2: don't want to be in a money pit of something
- 51:13Speaker 2: that a $ 10, 000 deductible, God forbid, that's surgeries, that's days
- 51:16Speaker 2: in the hospital, you know, that's prescriptions, and you still
- 51:19Speaker 2: might not hit it, and you got to start over
- 51:21Speaker 2: each year on that. It's just not worth it. So
- 51:23Speaker 2: you should always think about that, weigh in, the benefits
- 51:30Speaker 2: of paying a little bit more, but paying a little
- 51:32Speaker 2: bit less on the back end. And I think that's
- 51:34Speaker 2: where people mess up.
- 51:35Speaker 1: What is supplemental insurance?
- 51:38Speaker 2: Supplemental insurance is everything else is what I call it.
- 51:41Speaker 2: It's all your living benefits, right? So it's things that
- 51:45Speaker 2: pay you while you're here. So it's more of like,
- 51:48Speaker 2: you know, God forbid you got diagnosed with a major condition. Say,
- 51:52Speaker 2: for example, you had a heart attack, you know, it
- 51:55Speaker 2: might pay $ 20, 000, $ 30, 000 to you directly. And most of
- 51:58Speaker 2: these people, they're eventually going to go back to work, right?
- 52:01Speaker 2: But it helps cover medical expenses. It can go towards mortgages, rents,
- 52:06Speaker 2: your daily expenses until you're able to go back. A
- 52:09Speaker 2: lot of people that, you know, have things happen, do
- 52:13Speaker 2: not have the appropriate savings to cover themselves.
- 52:16Speaker 1: So that AFLAC insurance policy that you got me to get,
- 52:20Speaker 1: is that a form of supplemental insurance?
- 52:21Speaker 2: It is a form of supplemental insurance. They have different types.
- 52:24Speaker 2: So They have accidental coverage, which will cover somebody if
- 52:29Speaker 2: they're injured on or off the job. Typically, those coverages
- 52:32Speaker 2: also have an accidental death benefit in it as well.
- 52:35Speaker 2: So if someone died from an injury, that money is
- 52:38Speaker 2: built into that type of policy. They got cancer coverages,
- 52:42Speaker 2: so God forbid someone got diagnosed with cancer, you can
- 52:45Speaker 2: be paid out for the treatments, for being diagnosed, everything
- 52:49Speaker 2: like that.
- 52:50Speaker 1: So cancer coverage, you would get that.
- 52:52Speaker 2: After you get cancer? Yes. Remember that pre-existing condition conversation?
- 52:55Speaker 1: Because it's weird to be like, hey, I'm going to
- 52:57Speaker 1: get cancer coverage just in case.
- 52:58Speaker 2: That's kind of weird. Why does that even exist in America?
- 53:01Speaker 2: In what way? I understand why. Okay.
- 53:03Speaker 3: So I understand why it exists because obviously people get cancer, right?
- 53:07Speaker 3: But could you imagine them creating these cancers to then
- 53:11Speaker 3: have to get insurance for it? It's just really weird.
- 53:14Speaker 2: You don't have to, but if you're smart, you would.
- 53:17Speaker 2: So you feel like all of us should just have
- 53:19Speaker 2: a cancer coverage? Absolutely. I have one. I don't have
- 53:22Speaker 2: cancer history in my family. But being in the field
- 53:24Speaker 2: that I am, I'm telling you guys, it's simple as
- 53:28Speaker 2: I went to the doctor to go get my regular mammogram.
- 53:32Speaker 2: You're doing something that you would have done every time.
- 53:34Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we see something here. You need to
- 53:37Speaker 2: get into other testing. You get diagnosed that quick. You're
- 53:41Speaker 2: not thinking of it. Somebody that had a heart attack
- 53:45Speaker 2: did not think they was going to have a heart
- 53:46Speaker 2: attack in the day that they had a heart attack. Yeah.
- 53:49Speaker 2: you don't know what's going to happen to you. That's
- 53:51Speaker 2: why I call it insurance.
- 53:52Speaker 3: That's manifesting some bullshit. I don't want it. Or it's
- 53:56Speaker 3: being preventative.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Preparing, yeah. And it's preparing yourself for whatever may come
- 53:59Speaker 2: your way. Right. Because something's coming. We just don't know
- 54:03Speaker 2: what it is. Bitch, I'm about to be vegan. I'm
- 54:05Speaker 2: on my way there. You don't know where it is
- 54:08Speaker 2: because there's.
- 54:09Speaker 3: It's the food that's causing people to have all this cancer.
- 54:11Speaker 3: We can say that, but then you can think about
- 54:13Speaker 3: all the buildings that had asbestos in them that we
- 54:14Speaker 3: were in.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Asbestos. I can't say it, but that... You know, I
- 54:21Speaker 2: went to, you know, the university I went to had, you.
- 54:24Speaker 3: Know, the classrooms with the bestest in it.
- 54:30Speaker 2: And guess what? They wouldn't cut on the AC, but
- 54:31Speaker 2: we were still in those classrooms. And, you know, that's
- 54:34Speaker 2: a major cause of cancer. Well, then you should be
- 54:36Speaker 2: able to sue the school. Probably, but I don't want
- 54:38Speaker 2: to have.
- 54:38Speaker 1: But how are you going to prove?
- 54:39Speaker 2: How are you going to prove that's what you got? Yeah,
- 54:40Speaker 2: class action is good and everything, but I got to
- 54:42Speaker 2: get through this cancer treatment, hopefully, to make it to
- 54:44Speaker 2: the class action suit. You know, like. This life is
- 54:48Speaker 2: fucking stressful. It is, but it's just being preventative. And
- 54:54Speaker 2: to be quite honest, the more I'm in this business,
- 54:58Speaker 2: the younger people are getting diagnosed. 30s, 30s, 20s, passing away.
- 55:04Speaker 2: This year alone, I know so many people. And I
- 55:06Speaker 2: don't know if, I don't know. Is it normal?
- 55:09Speaker 3: Because we are getting old, right? But I just feel
- 55:11Speaker 3: like dying in your 40s is fucking weird. How many
- 55:15Speaker 3: people are dropping dead from strokes, heart attacks?
- 55:18Speaker 2: Well, they say we live differently than our parents did.
- 55:21Speaker 2: So we actually do more at risk. We don't walk enough.
- 55:23Speaker 1: We're probably under more stress.
- 55:24Speaker 2: We do more at risk behaviors as well. Yep. Than
- 55:29Speaker 2: our parents did. Who would have thought that?
- 55:32Speaker 3: I can't believe that that was smoking crack. Yeah, but
- 55:36Speaker 3: crack really didn't kill people. I know a lot of
- 55:39Speaker 3: crackheads died of just cancer. They just ended up with
- 55:41Speaker 3: cancer or something later on, but crack really didn't kill them. No,
- 55:45Speaker 3: it wasn't. So, yeah, we're at more risk. Now, meth,
- 55:49Speaker 3: your ass ain't living past 30, dog. Whatever age you start,
- 55:52Speaker 3: you're going to be dead in a few years. I
- 55:53Speaker 3: don't even know what that calls, but I don't want
- 55:55Speaker 3: none of that. They start turning into a zombie after
- 55:57Speaker 3: six months. If you go Google before and after meth,
- 56:01Speaker 3: I remember I looked at this lady. They had some
- 56:04Speaker 3: pictures like this thing right here. All her.
- 56:08Speaker 2: Progression.
- 56:10Speaker 3: This shit is fucking wild. Six months, you just start
- 56:12Speaker 3: looking like somebody else.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Somebody different. It's a sad thing.
- 56:15Speaker 2: Well, it got a lot of chemicals in it. What's
- 56:18Speaker 2: HMO versus PPO?
- 56:20Speaker 1: HMO.
- 56:22Speaker 2: Plans require you to stay in network, so everywhere that
- 56:27Speaker 2: you go it has to be referred. So typically your
- 56:29Speaker 2: referral comes from your primary care physician, and then they'll
- 56:32Speaker 2: refer you if you need to go see whatever specialist
- 56:34Speaker 2: or testing. It's referral-based. But typically that's a cheaper plan
- 56:41Speaker 2: because you don't have as much freedom just to go
- 56:44Speaker 2: where you want to go, but it's still a good plan.
- 56:46Speaker 1: And then PPO is a good one.
- 56:49Speaker 2: It gives you freedom of choice if you want to
- 56:51Speaker 2: go in. Yes, typically. It lets you go in-network, out-of-network,
- 56:58Speaker 2: on your own whim. But typically when you go out-of-network,
- 57:01Speaker 2: still you're going to pay more money, but it just
- 57:03Speaker 2: gives you freedom of choice. So say there's a place
- 57:06Speaker 2: that you want to go that may not be in
- 57:07Speaker 2: your state or whatever, it just gives you freedom of
- 57:09Speaker 2: choice for the care that you want.
- 57:12Speaker 1: I feel like low-key sad right now. Why?
- 57:15Speaker 2: Why, Mitch? I don't know.
- 57:17Speaker 1: I guess it just makes you aware.
- 57:19Speaker 2: This is important, though.
- 57:19Speaker 1: I mean, it's important, but it just makes you so
- 57:21Speaker 1: aware of your own mortality when you think about these things.
- 57:24Speaker 2: Or if you think about it the right way, it
- 57:26Speaker 2: makes you want to be as preventative as possible. You know,
- 57:31Speaker 2: for me, I'm so comfortable with this conversation because I
- 57:35Speaker 2: know at this point that I have what I need
- 57:38Speaker 2: if something happens to me. I'm not a debt or
- 57:41Speaker 2: a burden to anybody else, whether I'm here or not here.
- 57:45Speaker 2: And that makes me feel good. It makes me feel
- 57:47Speaker 2: like I did something right. And I did something that
- 57:49Speaker 2: my parents didn't do, right? And, you know, that's the
- 57:53Speaker 2: enjoyable part about being in this field. When someone walks
- 57:56Speaker 2: away and say, you made me this so easy, you know.
- 58:00Speaker 2: I was just so scared of insurance. I was so
- 58:03Speaker 2: scared of this conversation. And you made it so easy.
- 58:06Speaker 2: That's the joyful part of it.
- 58:08Speaker 1: So with that being said, how can people, like, who's listening, like,
- 58:11Speaker 1: reach out to you? Like, they need a liaison. They
- 58:13Speaker 1: need someone to get information from. How can they contact.
- 58:16Speaker 2: You so you can help them further? Sure. Reach out
- 58:19Speaker 2: to me on my IG, Shawnee Rocket, S-H-A-W-N-I-E-R-O-C-K-E-T. DM me.
- 58:27Speaker 2: I'm always open to answer your questions if you have concerns.
- 58:31Speaker 2: I'm also licensed in 35 states. I can help you
- 58:33Speaker 2: just about wherever you are, even if it's just simple questions, right?
- 58:38Speaker 2: Help you or your family navigate wherever you guys are
- 58:41Speaker 2: trying to go. The biggest takeaway I want you guys
- 58:44Speaker 2: to have is just be prepared, right? We spend money
- 58:48Speaker 2: in all kinds of ways. We travel as much as
- 58:50Speaker 2: we want to. And take $ 100 a month and just
- 58:54Speaker 2: break it up and get you a few extra policies.
- 58:57Speaker 1: So, hold on.
- 58:58Speaker 2: You can get a few policies with $ 100?
- 59:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 59:01Speaker 2: I got a cancer policy, an accidental policy, a critical
- 59:05Speaker 2: illness policy, and I pay about 98 a month.
- 59:08Speaker 1: See that's not yeah that's.
- 59:10Speaker 3: Affordable yeah i'm tripping well insurance isn't is insurance however
- 59:15Speaker 3: there are better companies than other on paying on their
- 59:18Speaker 3: insurances um so like you always want to go with
- 59:21Speaker 3: something that's reputable so i'm licensed with affleck so that's
- 59:24Speaker 3: who i um.
- 59:27Speaker 1: That's all she's going to say because that's who paid
- 59:29Speaker 1: her check, so don't ask her about nobody.
- 59:30Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Aflac, that's a good one. But, you know,
- 59:33Speaker 2: a lot of people in Georgia have it because their
- 59:35Speaker 2: home office is here. So it's very common in this
- 59:38Speaker 2: state for Aflac, right? But there's other brands, like if
- 59:41Speaker 2: you're looking for life insurance, like MetLife, they're very reputable.
- 59:44Speaker 2: You'd be surprised that State Farm is very competitive on
- 59:46Speaker 2: life insurance as well. That's where I got mine from, right?
- 59:49Speaker 2: So just do your research, right? And that's what I say.
- 59:51Speaker 2: And there also are exchanges, right? where they'll be brokers
- 59:57Speaker 2: for multiple carriers. Between the same ones, yeah. Yeah, so
- 59:59Speaker 2: you can kind of shop around. I feel like they're
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: all the same.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Because even with the car insurance, like you go through
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: one company. Like I went through, I had Geico, but
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: somehow I was talking to Progressive. Geico is like a broker, basically.
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: They're a broker, yeah.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Girl, you done told me something, because I ain't.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: Know. I didn't know that.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Yeah, well, State Farm always runs on its own, though.
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: They just work differently. But they actually got, like, life
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: insurance and stuff, like, competitive rates, good policies. Like, I
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: thought I was going to go with MetLife, and I
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: called State Farm, and I was, like, just talking to them, like, oh,
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: we got life insurance. I was like, oh, you do?
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: And come to find out it was actually cheaper than MetLife.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: I wonder if we can get a State Farm discount
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: since we be doing commercials for that. Right.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: Period. The discount is your age, baby.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: The discount is your age.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: So start now. especially if you're younger, get it, get it. Yes, please.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: This is the message. If you're young, if you're healthy,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: don't wait, do not wait. This is absolutely the best
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: time to do it. And thank me later.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: Period.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Y'all so hurry up.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: So we talked about that. That was good information.
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: I'm sure people really enjoyed this episode because they got,
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: you dropped some jewels for them. And for me, I
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: need to add some more policies.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: To I have a few.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all, when I bought that policy from her,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: I just bought it on like.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: I was like, I need one more sale to make
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: this money. She's like, I got you. It really wasn't
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: even about my health. I've been paying in it for
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: years now. About three or four years now.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: But I mean, now I feel like I need to
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: add more after that information. I know it's going to
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: be probably more... It's probably going to be double for me.
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: With me having a pre-existing condition, it might be a
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: little bit more.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Sometimes, but It depends on the underwriting, right? And that
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: sometimes means why I say you got to do your
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: research because some policies may ask a question that another
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: one won't, right? So, you know, I know how to navigate. Like,
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: I wouldn't put somebody in a policy for $ 20, 000 and
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: I know they ask, did you just take chemotherapy? But
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: I know I got this other one for $ 10, 000 that
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: don't ask, right?
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to get with you so you can
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: hook it up. You know, we're going to get it together.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: But this episode would not be right. We didn't get
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: a dumb bitch story from you. You know we got
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: to get a dumb bitch story.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: No, not the job. Yes.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: You thought it was just going to be health care
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: and insurance, didn't you? No, we need a DB story
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: from you. Dumb bitch stories.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: You are so dumb.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Because we've all been a dumb bitch at least.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: Once or twice.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: Y'all not about to do this to me right now, kids. Bitch,
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: hurry up. Okay, so. I was talking to this guy.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: They always talk about talking to some guy. Go ahead.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: I was talking to this guy, and he said, hey,
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: come up here to see me. I said, okay.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: Where's up here? Oh, you don't have to tell us.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: It's not in the state that I lived in. So
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: I went up there to see him, and he didn't
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: answer the door. He left you outside? Outside. Wait a minute. Okay,
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: so how far did you travel? You have to tell
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: us where, but how far did you travel for the date?
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: I drove. Okay. I drove.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: And how many hours was it?
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: Six hours. Oh. Had you been with him before? Yes.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: And he told you to come up, did you... Plan
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: to come. He asked me to come. I don't just
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: go anywhere. We don't do that. We were never that pressed, okay? Right. Period.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: We were. Like, it's two of them. We're not talking
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: about me in third person, okay? We were never that pressed. But, yes,
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: didn't I answer the door?
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: Did you kick the door in?
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: I left a footprint on it. I know you did.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: I was trying to get it down. Did y'all talk
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: after that at any point? Did he hit you up with, like,
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: an excuse? No, he came and met me. He was like, uh, uh.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Long story short, he had a girl there at some point.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: It was just trash. He went out. I guess he
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: must have brought her back and forgot and got drunk.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: He forgot what time you were going to get there. Yeah.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: Oof. Yeah.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: I remember that.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: Yo, that was the most tragic stuff of my life.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, girl. I ain't never been like...
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: Played with like that.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: No.
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: But that don't make you really a dumb bitch. Like,
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: he's stupid.
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: What?
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: No, I'm dumb because I came up there with my gas,
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: my money, my car, my hours.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Like, yo, no, that was pretty stupid, so... But you
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: know what?
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: A lot of the dumb bitch stories don't always make
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: us the dumb bitch. It always typically be the other
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: person in the story that's really the dumb bitch in
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: the story, honestly.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Y'all talk to him after that, though, so I guess
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: I'll make it a dumb bitch. Oh, you continue to
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: fuck with him? For a little while. Okay, see, that
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: be the part. Right.
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: It be the aftermath that make you the dumb bitch,
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: because it's cool to be stupid, right? But when you
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: become a habitual dumb bitch, when you just keep going
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: with the shit, now that's.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: When, yeah.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Just for a little while longer. Not let them ride
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: in the wind. You got to add that on. So
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: how long did you continue to do the dumb bitch shit?
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: About a month or two after. Who's counting? Y'all, I
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: look back at that time in my life. I'm so
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: glad that I've grown from that. Girl, don't think it's
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: our old life, okay? We out of the woods. Who shall?
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: You got me. You weren't prepared for that. No.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: It's so funny because I told her, like, all right,
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: this is what we're going to talk about, but I never,
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: but you had to know that it was coming.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: You had to know. No, I didn't think I was
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: going to have to provide that story today. That's a
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: good one. That's a little easy one. I feel like
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: we can get another good one out you, though.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: That was probably my most embarrassing one, y'all, because I
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: was like.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Ain't nobody seeing you, though. Who know? now everybody know
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: dumb bitch fuck you oh my goodness oh my goodness
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: yeah everybody know now don't judge me y'all get the
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: cash app ladies get the gas money up front right.
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: Well Erin I really appreciate you this was very last
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: minute but this was a great episode so thank you
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: for coming on with us I.
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: Really appreciate it you're welcome y'all niggas got health care
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: life care in.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Here yeah see look Dropping jewels. You got your business card?
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: I don't. Virtual business card? Again, my IG is Shawnee Rocket.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: So S-H-A-W-N-I-E-R-O-C-K-E-T. Hit her up. Hop in the DMs.
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: So she can help you out. She help me, for real.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: We should do a challenge. We should do a life
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: insurance challenge for the month of May.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: You know what? For real. Get your stuff together, right?
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: Right. Get your shit together.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Well, we about to run your check up for the
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: month of May. We need 10%, bitch. Let's be clear.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: I might got some back end. That ain't really illegal.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: But ultimately, we want to help people. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Make sure people are on the right end of that
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: because I ain't got no one to go fund me.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: Money for y'all. I really don't.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: I don't never donate to GoFundMe anymore ever since when
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: I had Salida, the old lady living with me. Paying
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: for somebody to live with me out of my fucking
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: pocket for over a year. And I put up a
- 1:07:07Speaker 3: GoFundMe and guess how much money I got?
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: What? $ 100. $ 251. And I gave it to her for
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: her birthday.
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: But my thing is, bitches can put up a GoFundMe
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: because you went to, I don't know, Memorial Weekend with
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: no fucking money and got stranded and people donating to
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: that stupid shit.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: But I can't find housing for one little old lady.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: So I don't fuck with people GoFundMe. So maybe fuck
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: y'all with y'all GoFundMe. You look bitter. You probably shouldn't.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: I am. You didn't put anything on. I didn't have
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: a way about that because people, we pay into bullshit.
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: I donated to that GoFundMe.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: So it's crazy that you only got $ 251 because I
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: think I gave at least 50 myself.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: That's it. That's tough. So we pay into bullshit. Yeah.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: That's another example. But you see that $ 50 a month
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: could have done? You would have had a policy.
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: Which, you know, I wanted to put life insurance on her,
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: but she was, I waited too long. And I probably
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: didn't have, what is it called, insurable interest on her
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: because she wasn't a family member. She was a stranger
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: I met. But I wanted to try to get like
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: a burial.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: This bitch is still out here. Let's be clear. She's
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: still outside. And she's 86 now, though. Yeah. So she
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: was 83 when I moved her in. She could get
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: a policy, but it won't be. She'll get a burial
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: policy for $ 10, 000.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: Something small.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: I feel like people should get cremated if they don't
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: have policies. Cremation still costs $ 7, 000.
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: You still got to pay for it. $ 7, 000 for cremation.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: Why we can't burn people in the backyard? The state
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: will put you in the pine box for free, though.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Matter of fact, they give you $ 250 a month. I mean,
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: $ 250 if someone passed away without.
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: So I can turn a body in for $ 250?
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: That's how much it's worth?
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: Yes. Hmm. Girl.
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: I mean, but it's not worth it. Listen, y'all. If
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: y'all enjoy, hit them with the shit. We're not going there.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Hit them with the shit, friend.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: Shit, friend. It's time to go.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: See, anytime it start going to that dark place, I
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: know it's time to end it.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: I said too much. All right, y'all.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: No, bitch.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: We getting this check. Look, the dead check.
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: If you guys enjoyed this episode, please tune in every
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: Thursday on your iHeartRadio app.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: Where the fuck you get your podcast at?
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: This is your co-host, AJ Holiday 2.0 on Instagram.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Y'all follow me now if you want to get on.
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: What's up, Tam? Y'all is official TMAM. I love y'all.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Thank y'all for tuning in. Remember, speak now. And never
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: hold your peace. Deuces.