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Lesley Groff And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Trip to Congress (Part 6) (7/5/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where he left off with the Leslie Groff transcripts from
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  her interview with Congress. Question, you talked a little bit
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  about your role and responsibilities and also about the people
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  that you work with. Can you say some more about
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  the other assistants that mister Epstein had and your relationship
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  to them? Answer? Sure. In the office, there was an
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  assistant to miss Maxwell, There was an assistant to the
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  two attorneys. There was when I first started a traveling assistant.
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  There was another assistant there. She was only there briefly.
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  And we had a receptionist I replaced redacted. She was
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  mister Epstein's assistant and then I replaced her, so then
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  I became the receptionist. Question did you at any point
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  manage any of those assistants? Answer no question? So you
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  never had your own team of assistants? Answer no question?
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  And how did you fit in with a larger operation,
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  so you mentioned earlier Darren Endick. Also there was Richard Kahn.
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  Would they have ever asked you to do anything? Would
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  Maxwell have ever asked you to do anything? Or did
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  you only respond to mister Epstein. Answer it was mister Epstein,
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  purely question, what might a typical day look like? Answer sure,
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  I would get in, try to get in by at
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  least day fifty five, because he was definitely calling me
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  at nine am sharp. He would call me and give
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  me twenty to ten to twenty pages of notes that
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  he had to be thinking about all night, all throughout
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  the night. In the morning and he'd call me with
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  all of his directives of the people that he wanted
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  to see that day. The call list was always huge.
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  He would direct me to coordinate with his house staff.
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  If he was going to be, say leaving that day
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  or the next day for Palm Beach, he would want
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  to make sure that the Palm Beach staff was going
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  to be ready to go and ready for his visit.
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  I would have to coordinate with the pilots, and he'd
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  give me it's possible. He gave me directives for people
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  in the office as well, to communicate. He would It
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  was just it was crazy. It was very, very busy
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  because at the same time that he was giving me
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  all his directives, people were also calling in for him
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  as well. I had the two phones on my desk,
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  and it was just NonStop. So I would take messages
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  from people who are calling in for him, as well
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  as giving me directives. Question when you say that he
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  would have directives for people in the office to communicate,
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  what do you mean? Answer it would be like tell
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  Darren to be sure and call so and so today,
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  Like I was just the go between to tell Darren
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  so that he didn't have to call Darren himself, that
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  type of thing. Question got it. You talked a little
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  bit about this earlier. But how would mister Epstein typically
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  communicate with you? Answer? It was first all telephone, all telephone.
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  I don't even think he had a cell phone. He
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  definitely didn't have email, so there was a lot. That's
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  why he called me so often to find out his
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  messages and find out about his schedule and give me
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  more things to do. It was very typical for him
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  to book things and then reschedule and then book again.
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  It was chaotic. At what point did he start emailing you,
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  because he clearly did email you eventually answer, yeah, he
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  clearly did. I would say it was more around twenty
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  eleven ten eleven about then. Question, Okay, so before twenty eleven,
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  twenty twelve, He mostly called you correct answer correct yes question.
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  Did he also text you answer? No, we were not texters.
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  Question okay, mister redacted, And just to go back quickly,
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  you listed out who worked in the office, and you
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  mentioned Maxwell's assistant. You mentioned redacted. Can you give us
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  the names of those individuals please? Who was Maxwell's assistant Groff?
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  When I first started, it was redacted, and then it
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  was redacted, mister adacted. Was there anyone else in that
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  office that you recall? Ms? Groff? Yeah, there were two attorneys,
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  Darren Endyke and Jeff Schantz. There was an accountant, Eric Ganny,
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  and he was there when I first started, and then
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  it changed to Richard Kahn. There was redacted who I
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  thought was the assistant to the accountant, the keeper. Then
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  there was Henry Henry Beller, who I thought was the trader,
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  did his trades, that sort of thing. And then after
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  a while it was a Madhna who was the controller.
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  Mister redacted, Thank you, misredacted. Question what kind of hours
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  did you work? Answer? At first it was nine to five.
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  It was typical, and then after I had my son,
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  it changed. I was given a very flexible schedule. I
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  would work usually two or three days a week in
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  the office only when he was in town, and I
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  job shared with redacted. She would sit in for me
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  when I was not there, and I got to work
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  from home when he was not around. Question and you
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  had your son in two thousand and four two thousand
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  and five. Answer two thousand and four December sixteenth, two
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  thousand and four, so right on the cusp of two
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  thousand and five. Question so from two thousand and one
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  to two thousand and four, you're working nine to five
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  in the office. Answer I think I got pregnant and
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  was really really pregnant. I got to work from home
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  some as well. Question and once you have that flexible schedule,
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  did you keep it or was there a point where
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  you were in the office five days a week? Answer?
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  I got to keep the flexible schedule, and I got
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  to leave early as well. There was a train I
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  was able to leave at four insteat of five on
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  the days that I went in. Question did mister Epstein
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  call or make requests of you outside of work hours? Answer?
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  That happened later with the smartphones. Yeah, he had no filter.
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  It became more like twenty four to seven holidays. Uh, huh.
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  Question when did that start? Answer? I would say, I'm
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  just trying to remember twenty eleven, twenty twelve, thirteen. I'm
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  just trying to put it in perspective of where I
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  was living. Yeah, around that time period. It progressed over time.
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  Question sure, so fair to say starting in twenty eleven,
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  twenty twelve, maybe twenty thirteen, you were working pretty long
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  hours because mister Epstein might reach out to you at
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  any point. Answer, yeah, it was not just typical hours. Question.
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  I'd like to ask you a few questions about the
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  offices that you worked in. You said earlier that when
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  you started working for mister Epstein you worked at four
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  fifty seven Madison Avenue. Is that correct? Answer? Correct question?
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  And that was from two thousand and one to two
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  thousand and nine. Correct answer, correct question. Can you tell
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  us more about how that office was set up? Answer? Sure,
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  So when you came into the courtyard of the Helmsley
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  Palace on the left hand side what they called the
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  Villard House. So you entered a door and there was
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  a security guard there, and then a small elevator that
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  took you up to go to I think it was
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  the fourth floor, and that elevator dumped you right into
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  the reception area of the office space. Then there was
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  a receptionist desk, there there were two bathrooms. To the left,
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  there was a large office that had the accountants and
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  the trader and the controller. To the right was Darren
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  in Dyke's office and kitchen. And then you headed down
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  the corridor and there was a door on the right
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  hand side that went into the office where miss Maxwell sat.
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  Darren and Jeff's assistant redacted sat in there, and there
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  were several desks. Question what about mister Epstein, where was he? Answer? Yes,
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  So down that same corridor there was a door. Oh,
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  there was first of all Jeff Shant's office, and then
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  there was mister Epstein's office. Question and where were you
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  in a relationship or excuse me, where were you in
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  relation to mister Epstein? Answer right, So my office was
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  next to his. You had to go down the long
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  corridor and the door to my office was right of
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  the whole office. And then my desk was in the middle.
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  And he had a very very large office, and he
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  had a door you could enter his office from the corridor,
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  or there was a door next to the desk that
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  you could enter into his office as well. Question, so
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  you would have seen people coming in and out of
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  his office. Answer, Actually, he kept his door closed to
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  my office most of the time. If people came, they
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  entered in that first door. To go into the office,
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  he had to set up with a sofa and a
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  fireplace at the front of the office, and then at
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  the back of the office was his desk. Question when
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  you left the offices at four fifty seven Madison, did
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  you go next to three oh one East sixty six
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  or was that Lexington office? Answer? It was three oh
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  one East sixty six. Question? And how long were you there? Answer?
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  I believe that was two three years? Okay? Question so
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  two thousand and nine to twenty eleven or twelve. Answer,
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  I think that's right, yeah, question okay. And then after
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  that you went to the Lexington office answer correct? Question
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  And how long were you there? Answer? That was from
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  about twenty eleven to twenty thirteen or so, and that
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  office remained The people who were in that office stayed there.
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  I started working from his home around twenty thirteen. Question
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  And mister Epstein's office in his home was on the
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  second floor. Correct answer. He had an office on the
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  second floor uh huh. Question what flora was the massage room?
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  On answer, I don't know. I didn't go upstairs. Question
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  you don't even know what flora was on answer It
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  could have been, well, I don't know for sure if
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  it was on the third or the fourth or the fifth.
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  Question And where was your office? Answer on the first floor?
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  Question so you would have seen people come in and
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  out of his residence? Answer? Actually no. The way that
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  the office was situated, you came in the front door
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  and there was a foire where you walked up about
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  eight to ten steps, and then at the platform at
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  the top there was a door on the left that
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  was my office. It was an oval room, and my
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  desk was set in the back of the office, which
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  was actually the desk out the window was seventy first Street,
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  So you had to come up the steps, make a
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  left into my office, and then come back towards the
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  front of the house, if you will. And my desk
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  was there so people could come and go that I
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  would not see question because your back was to the window. Grof,
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  that's correct. Question. And was there a doorman of any sort? Groff,
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  I would say, a butler and the maid if you
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  call them dorman, I mean not a doorman like see
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  in a New York City apartment. Question. Sure, I guess
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  A better question is if a visitor arrived there, who
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  would let them in? Miss Groff? It would be the
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  maid Lynn, the butler, Jojo, or maybe Rich was the
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  engineer's security guy. Mister Garcia. Would it be one of
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  those three that would have seen folks that were coming
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  in and out more than anyone else of the three
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  names you gave us, or is there anyone else that
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  you would know that has more information about who was
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  let in and out of the residence? Groff, I would
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  say that those are the top, the top three, Garcia,
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  and we have the three names redacted? Yes, Garcia, thank you? Redacted. Question.
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  You said earlier that you have not been to his
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  pom Beach residence. Is that correct answer? That's correct question?
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  And you have not been to Zorro Ranch? Answer correct question?
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  Did you ever go to his residence in Ohio? Answer
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  no question? And you said you took day trips to
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  Little Saint James? Is that correct? Answer? Correct question? And
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  you said that you took a vacation there answer no question,
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  no answer, no question, Okay, And you and your husband
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  visited his apartment in Paris? Is that correct? Answer correct?
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  The guest apartment? Question? Okay, did you separately ever travel
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  with mister Ebstein? Answer no? Question he said, you've never
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  been on any of his planes? Is that correct? Answer correct?
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  I never traveled on his airplane? Question? Did you ever
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  travel on his helicopter? Answer? I did? Question how many times?
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  Answer once? Question? What for? Answer to go to Saint
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  Thomas to his island? Question approximately? How much do you
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  think that you earned over the course of your employment
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  with mister Ebstein? Answer? I've got to do some math.
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  Mister Whitcombe, you said there would be no math. Couldn't resist.
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  Mister Backner. Maybe you want to take her year by year.
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  She can just give you maybe the salary Graff, Can
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  I give amounts? Question? Sure you said it started at
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  fifty thousand, answer Riot, and I believe that was four
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  up until two thousand and five. I did get a
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  bonus of ten thousand dollars the first year. I don't
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  recall how much my bonus was the next year. I
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  know after I had my child, I went up to
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  one hundred and twenty thousand, and that was four until
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  two thousand and nine and then it dropped to one
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  thousand and eight dollars, and then it went back up
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  in twenty fifteen to I don't know, one hundred and
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  thirty thousand. I'm guessing I think maybe it went to
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  as high as one hundred and fifty and then it
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  went back down again. Question when did it go down?
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  Answer in twenty seventeen. I think it went down nominally.
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  Question as you know. In twenty sixteen, mister Epstein was
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  charged with solicitation of prostitution and an excuse me. In
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  two thousand and six, mister Epstein was charged with solicitation
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  of prostitution. In two thousand and eight, he pleaded to
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  solicitation a prostitution and solicitation of a minor for prostitution,
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  after which he served thirteen months in the Palm Beach Stockade.
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  We're going to get into that in more depth later,
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  but I'd like to ask you some questions about what
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  you were aware of in the time that you work
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  for mister Ebstein, and I'd like to focus on the
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  time that you spent at ninety seventy First Street. I
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  understand that you didn't see people come in and doubt,
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  but when you were there, the years that you spent there,
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  did you see minor girls and young women at the property?
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  Answer no, minors, no question. Young women answer if you're
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  talking about the assistance all of age question, not the staff.
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  Answer oh, no, no question. So, from twenty thirteen to
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  twenty nineteen, the time that you spent at the residence,
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  you never once saw minor girls or young women. Answer
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  that's correct. Question, You never observed mister Ebstein interacting with
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  minor girls or young women. Answer no, mister Whitcomb at
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  the residence. Misterdacted at the residence. All right, folks, we're
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  going to wrap up right here, and in the next episode,
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  we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the
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