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Breaking down Aaron Boone’s rant + Are the Rays buyers or sellers? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said. Hey, we don't usually do this,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to make sure I give context as
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  Speaker 2: we're about to play two to three minutes of an
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  Speaker 2: interview on Talking Yanks with Aaron Boone, and Boone got
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  Speaker 2: pretty heated and it's really interesting. You're gonna hear from
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  Speaker 2: Trevor May and cam Maven right after that, and then
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  Speaker 2: later in this pod you're gonna hear from Mark Topkin,
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  Speaker 2: who covers the Rays, and he'll give us the goods
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  Speaker 2: on the Rays. But let's start with Boonie heated defending
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  Speaker 2: postgame interviews.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so flatty diving means they wanted it more last night.
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  Speaker 4: No, it doesn't mean that, but it's like that that
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  Speaker 4: it's like that visual then to like the post games
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  Speaker 4: of like it's July. There's a lot of season left
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  Speaker 4: when you're two.
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  Speaker 3: But understand the pestering, bantering, leading questions that are being asked.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that you're not and I don't want him
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  Speaker 3: to just fly off the handle and be emotional. Like
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  Speaker 3: you know, we've been pretty good over the years of
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  Speaker 3: like compartmentalizing and and dealing with the everyday grind of
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  Speaker 3: the regular season and playing in New York and all
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  Speaker 3: they and you start getting emotional and going down that road.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bad trade.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I guess there's just a difference. Like, you know, we've
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  Speaker 4: had a couple of bad outings. The way he talked
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  Speaker 4: to the media, it just felt honest and it felt
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  Speaker 4: like different.
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  Speaker 3: Stop with the reaction of how a guy answers a
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  Speaker 3: fricking question.
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  Speaker 4: It's not but it's not. It's not one guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's like, okay, okay, we we gotta win.
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  Speaker 4: We understand to win. Okay, I remember my question from earlier.
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  Speaker 3: We are we are obsessed with it and hell ben
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  Speaker 3: preparation wise and guys give a rip.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so this is great, but this doesn't come through.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone handles things different. Some people will give you colorful answers. Yeah, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: I love that media answer. Some guys throw their helmet.
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  Speaker 3: Does that make you feel good? Some guys are calm, like,
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  Speaker 3: stop it. It doesn't mean a guy cares more or
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  Speaker 3: less because he dives into home plate.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well yeah, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's you gotta be angry at something. Because
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  Speaker 3: we didn't win, or so I gotta direct my anger
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  Speaker 3: at something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I hear you're saying that you guys
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  Speaker 4: feel urgency that you want to win. That doesn't come
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  Speaker 4: across the messaging has been there's a lot of season left.
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  Speaker 4: We just got to keep going and we're fine. You know, No,
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. I don't regret that play. I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have done things any differently. It's like, well that
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  Speaker 4: the messaging feels different than what you just delivered, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: You don't.
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  Speaker 3: You don't handle you don't, you don't listen to all
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  Speaker 3: my answers. Then you pull.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not talking about you. I think you've
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  Speaker 4: actually been way more in this light the season.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Luke Weaver you loved his answer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I also love Luke Weaver though.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, like you pull, you chair, your cherry pick,
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  Speaker 3: and the answers you like that are like yeah, yes, sugging,
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  Speaker 3: tugging at my fandom and yes, yes, sorry we're not
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  Speaker 3: they're not robots.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah that's what I want. I want more non
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  Speaker 4: robotic answer.
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  Speaker 3: Don't care what you want?
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm just letting you know.
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  Speaker 3: These are answers of pestering everyday questions. I want our
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  Speaker 3: guys in a good like Boom, we are locked in
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  Speaker 3: with it and when it's really good and all in between.
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  Speaker 3: I want us locked. I want to showing up every day,
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  Speaker 3: ready to prepare and ready to go.
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  Speaker 5: Period.
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  Speaker 2: That's Yankees manager Aaron Boone on talking Yanks, just delivering
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  Speaker 2: the goods. Cam. I mean, you played for Boonie, so
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  Speaker 2: you can lead us off here. I'll let you go.
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  Speaker 2: This is all player perspective here, because you've got basically
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  Speaker 2: player against the show with you know, two fan hosts,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going at it.
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  Speaker 6: Then and you said it and this is my problem
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  Speaker 6: to have so much respect for John Boy media.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 6: But the problem is is that fandom that comes into
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  Speaker 6: play and and and I love Boonie's answers. And this
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  Speaker 6: is why you know, Scott, I'm the biggest Boonie advocate
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  Speaker 6: because I played for the man. And this is why
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  Speaker 6: the fans can say with what they want. They want
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  Speaker 6: to fire Boone, they want to they want this or that.
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  Speaker 6: The players in the clubhouse love Aaron Boone. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 6: I'll say it again. The players in the love and
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  Speaker 6: the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 1: Love Aaron Boone.
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  Speaker 6: It's the reason why he keeps getting get extended because
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  Speaker 6: he can handle things that not many people can handle
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  Speaker 6: in New.
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  Speaker 1: York, right he said it.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody's differently, But one thing about Aaron Boone is he
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  Speaker 6: communicates with his players to the fullest and what you
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  Speaker 6: have to have.
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  Speaker 1: In New York, especially the Bronx.
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  Speaker 6: I told people the pinstripes, it's different that the expectation
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  Speaker 6: is different. You can say that you want. They're not
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  Speaker 6: the Yankees of old. They haven't won and so long,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. There's an expectation when you put on
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  Speaker 6: those pinstripes. And the mindset that Aaron Boone is trying
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  Speaker 6: to convey to the fan is the mind is the
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  Speaker 6: mindset that we can't dwell in the shit excuse my language,
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  Speaker 6: like we have to have a short mind frame. Even
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  Speaker 6: when they win, they go to the podium and they
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  Speaker 6: don't gloat, right, Hey, good win, what he get the
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  Speaker 6: job done? Long season? They don't clip that, right'. It's
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  Speaker 6: the same thing win or lose with Aaron Boon. Hey,
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  Speaker 6: it's unfortunate. We want to play better. But because he's
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  Speaker 6: like you said, you're not smacking water bottles and throwing
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  Speaker 6: stuff in the dug out. That's not the Yankee way
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  Speaker 6: I play with guys, or I play for guys like
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  Speaker 6: Terry Pendleton who said guys would have threw shit and
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  Speaker 6: been all upset and Sharlotte emotions. Back in the day,
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  Speaker 6: guys would have pulled them to the side and say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: get your craft together, right, like lock in, get over it.
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  Speaker 6: So there's a player mentality that I think watching this
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  Speaker 6: it let me know that I need to be careful
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  Speaker 6: about going back and forth with fans in the future
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  Speaker 6: because they're just some things that fans will never understand.
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  Speaker 6: And again, John Boy Media has done an excellent job,
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  Speaker 6: a great job, right. I think they made the game entertaining.
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  Speaker 6: I think they brought more eyes to baseball. But this
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  Speaker 6: conversation was a great example of fans still not being
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  Speaker 6: able to separate that part of being a professional. Right,
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  Speaker 6: We've been taught to be professionals. Give a professional answer,
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  Speaker 6: and that's what as a Yankee you do, That's how
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  Speaker 6: you carry yourself. You have a short memory, you give
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  Speaker 6: a professional answer, you move on. So this is just
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  Speaker 6: a great example of fans not truly understanding what players
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  Speaker 8: So, believe it or not, I have a little bit
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  Speaker 8: to say on this one. I love how Candid Boone
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  Speaker 8: was there because that he's like, this is my this
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  Speaker 8: is a place where I can do this, and these
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  Speaker 8: are the guys that I can have this conversation. And
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  Speaker 8: also big ups to Jimmy on how he handled it
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  Speaker 8: and how that back and forth went. As a not
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  Speaker 8: super confrontational person, you know, I can't say that I
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  Speaker 8: would okay, sorry, okay, and he didn't, so I do
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  Speaker 8: appreciate that a lot. But I thought a lot about this,
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  Speaker 8: the relationship between fans. You know, Cam and I both play.
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  Speaker 8: He played for both New York teams. I played for
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  Speaker 8: the Mets. We have we have a lot of experience
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  Speaker 8: with your relationship with the media and then therefore the fans. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: there is up.
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  Speaker 5: In the Northeast.
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  Speaker 8: With all these fan bases, I'll include New York, I'll
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  Speaker 8: tellically Philly, Boston, like all these areas, there is a
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  Speaker 8: through line and it's.
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  Speaker 2: The fans want.
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  Speaker 8: The fans want to know that the players feel the
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  Speaker 8: same way as them, like when they are mad or
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  Speaker 8: they are angry, or they are like what's going on
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  Speaker 8: or confused, or they just want some reassurance. And sometimes
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  Speaker 8: because it's an emotional place and the emotions are high
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  Speaker 8: there for fandom, especially in person, they want that same
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  Speaker 8: energy from the people that talk about the game and
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  Speaker 8: the people who.
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  Speaker 2: Play the game.
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  Speaker 8: And you can only give so much of that as
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  Speaker 8: the as being the clubhouse, being the coaching staff, the
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  Speaker 8: front office, and the players, because it wears on you
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  Speaker 8: and it makes it it makes it harder to do
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  Speaker 8: the thing that everyone claims that they want.
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  Speaker 5: So the only group here that.
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  Speaker 8: Has the temper that stuff is the players, and is
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  Speaker 8: the the the the coaching staff. So here's a prime
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  Speaker 8: example in New York. And and please Mets fans, stay
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  Speaker 8: right away, but it's going to come around a truss me.
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  Speaker 5: There was a.
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  Speaker 8: Perception sometimes of how our commentator grew. That's gk R legends.
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  Speaker 8: I want to throw it out there there at some
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  Speaker 8: of the best in the game would sometimes be overly
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  Speaker 8: critical of the player and we felt it sometimes. But
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  Speaker 8: what helped me, especially me, I was a guy who like,
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  Speaker 8: oh God, like we're doing our best here. Man, Like
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  Speaker 8: it's making it worse. But in reality, h they're not
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  Speaker 8: there for us. They're there for the fans, and what
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  Speaker 8: they are doing is showing that they feel the same
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  Speaker 8: way as the fan base, which is their job. Like
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  Speaker 8: that is the point. So the player is giving a
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  Speaker 8: little bit of candidates saying, hey, God, I don't want
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  Speaker 8: to be here talking to you right now. The goal
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  Speaker 8: is to never talk to you, and if you can
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  Speaker 8: give them a little bit like I hate this too,
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  Speaker 8: and then give your canned answers like but I'm ref
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  Speaker 8: focusing on this thing. I need to go look at
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  Speaker 8: the game and figure out what needs to change because
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  Speaker 8: I don't know right now, Like that does that goes enough?
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  Speaker 8: That's not enough for everybody sometimes, but that is what
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  Speaker 8: you have to give at times, and it's just the
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  Speaker 8: way way it needs to go. So like my perception
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  Speaker 8: changed flipped completely where I'm like, oh, they're amazing, They're
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  Speaker 8: doing their job incredibly. Well, that's why fans love them
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  Speaker 8: is because they see themselves. They're his own feelings in
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  Speaker 8: the feelings that are being betrayed to them. A prime
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  Speaker 8: example is the last one I'll give before this very
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  Speaker 8: long answer. Alec Bohm gets a lip red we were
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  Speaker 8: playing them when we were there, and he said, I
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  Speaker 8: bleep in hate this place when he made an airy,
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  Speaker 8: He's had a really tough game. This is in twenty
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  Speaker 8: twenty two, I believe in Philly. When he went and said, hey, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 8: like I was just upset and I said the thing
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  Speaker 8: and I like, obviously that's not how I.
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  Speaker 5: Feel full time. It's just in the moment. And they
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  Speaker 5: loved it because.
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  Speaker 8: They're like, oh, we also hate this place sometimes, like
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  Speaker 8: we you know, like watching this sucks. And it was
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  Speaker 8: the most surprising reaction because they're like, oh, what we
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  Speaker 8: wanted was for you to acknowledge how we're feeling. And
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  Speaker 8: so sometimes that's what's family. That's what fans want. Especially
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  Speaker 8: in the Bronx cam knows, they really want you to
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  Speaker 8: be like they want you to throw a chair like
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  Speaker 8: they would throw a chair, and Boonie's like, we can't
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  Speaker 8: do that all the time, so and he's right, he's right.
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  Speaker 8: So it just turns out some guys just never do that.
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  Speaker 8: They're just it's easier for them to give canned answers
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  Speaker 8: because they're just not good at showing their emotions in
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  Speaker 8: front of cameras. It's just not their comfort level. And
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  Speaker 8: if your whole team's like that, you're just not gonna
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  Speaker 8: get a lot of that. So that's what they're dealing with.
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  Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, that's what fans want,
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  Speaker 8: and that's what the players want.
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  Speaker 2: Well said by both of you and from the fan perspective, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love when we get real answers, when we get
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  Speaker 2: spirited answers. But if I'm rooting for one team, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not like waiting with bated breath after the game
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  Speaker 2: to see how passionate the answer is from a particular
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  Speaker 2: player about a particular play, and then that's how I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to make my decision on their passion and their
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  Speaker 2: care for what's going on exactly. Also, let's take a
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  Speaker 2: step back for the Yankee fans that go after Aaron Boone.
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  Speaker 2: Camp you want passion, He gets injected more than anybody
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  Speaker 2: in baseball. What else do you want?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: The next guy that one day will be the next
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  Speaker 2: manager of the Yankees will probably not get booted from
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  Speaker 2: game as much as Aaron Boone. I think he is
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  Speaker 2: as passionate as it gets. Some of the criticism I'll
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  Speaker 2: see is, oh, he's you know, sticking up for the players.
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  Speaker 2: He's too positive. Welcome to twenty twenty five Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 2: How many managers do you, either of you know nowadays
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  Speaker 2: that absolutely roast their players in public or in private.
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  Speaker 2: I can think of one recently, and he does not
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  Speaker 2: have a job, and he did not perform well. Pedro
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  Speaker 2: Griffol Okay, he picked a random day to just roast
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  Speaker 2: his players when they were facing a hot pitcher and
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  Speaker 2: they were a terrible team, and the players were like,
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  Speaker 2: you're gone. Am I off here?
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  Speaker 1: Guys? Not at all, not at all.
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  Speaker 6: And again I won't say a name, but I played
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  Speaker 6: for a guy who was coach Klin from the water
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  Speaker 6: Boy when she got highest.
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  Speaker 1: Because my language, all of a sudden, he started, he
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  Speaker 1: started to disappear. I won't say his name. He no
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  Speaker 1: longer has a job.
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  Speaker 6: Because this is my point when I say that, this
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  Speaker 6: is what fans don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I get.
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  Speaker 6: So you are rather be pissed off after the game,
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  Speaker 6: come back and we still play and like crap, okay,
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  Speaker 6: what does that hell? Well, at least they're mad about losing,
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  Speaker 6: like I don't like, I don't. I don't get it,
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  Speaker 6: Like if you're if you're losing you're losing, right, And
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  Speaker 6: I just think that's the point for me where Booneie
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  Speaker 6: is the type of guy where the thing that fans
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  Speaker 6: don't appreciate again, there's no stat for it is when
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  Speaker 6: you wake up in the morning. And Tremp knows this right,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm sure Travis played for a guy. You wake
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  Speaker 6: up in the morning and we and this is the
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  Speaker 6: game that we love to play, the game that we
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  Speaker 6: use to provide for our families, the game that we
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  Speaker 6: use to put on the show for fans. There are
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  Speaker 6: certain guys, at least in my experience, I wake up
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  Speaker 6: and not only do I want to get to the ballpark,
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  Speaker 6: I can't wait to go play for that guy like Yo,
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  Speaker 6: that dude's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And then there are dudes who like I.
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  Speaker 6: I freaking hate this place. I hate this guy. He's
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  Speaker 6: not a leader. I don't trust him. The players trust
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  Speaker 6: Aaron Boone And that's what bothers me the most sometimes
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  Speaker 6: about Yankee's fans. They want some other guy to come
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  Speaker 6: in and let's see if he if he has that
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  Speaker 6: same type of chemistry, that same type of relationships, the
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  Speaker 6: same type of reactions that the players have with him.
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  Speaker 6: Now that the fans for some reason are blinded by right,
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  Speaker 6: don't They don't see it, like, let's let's let you
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  Speaker 6: know so again, I guess it's one of those the
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  Speaker 6: grass isn't always bringing on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: So let me say that by Aaron Boom.
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  Speaker 6: But he's the guy that when you wake up, you're like, hell, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I can't wait to go show up and put my
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  Speaker 6: spikes on and play hardest hell for that guy, because
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  Speaker 6: I know he's gonna have my back. I know he's
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  Speaker 6: gonna be honest. I know he's gonna communicate and tell
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  Speaker 6: me exactly what he wants from me, and that and
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  Speaker 6: there and there's no there's no price on that for me.
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  Speaker 6: And they just again they don't. They don't appreciate that.
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  Speaker 6: And you see it right.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Here with the most diehard fans in the world, they
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: don't appreciate it.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in a fan question or two. Trevor,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: you got you got one for us?
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: I do uh from the Velaska Sports podcast. So I
• 14:39
  Speaker 8: believe this is probably associated with some of the conversations
• 14:44
  Speaker 8: happening around the CBA now that we're talking about this
• 14:46
  Speaker 8: eighteen months before it's happening.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: But it is what it is.
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: It says, do players look at how fans basically are
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: paying higher prices every year for you to hold out
• 14:55
  Speaker 8: and walk on them and walk on them over three million?
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: And those those fans that.
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: Have one hundred and fifty bucks and spend one hundred
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: and thirty on your uniform and twenty on food. So
• 15:05
  Speaker 8: what I'm assuming, what I'm trying to figure out what
• 15:07
  Speaker 8: this saying is probably like, do you think about the
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: fans when you're holding out for three more million dollars
• 15:13
  Speaker 8: in your contract just to walk when they are coming
• 15:15
  Speaker 8: and spending with one hundred fifty dollars spend one hundred
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: and thirty on your uniform and twenty on food. I
• 15:20
  Speaker 8: think this is a two prong like everything keeps getting
• 15:23
  Speaker 8: more expensive and you guys keep asking for more money
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: as like like those two things are completely directly correlated,
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: which sure, but also no.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to touch on it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: A little bit because I'm getting this, I'm getting this
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: conversation a lot. I've been talking a lot about Rob
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: and his comments about the CBA and just trying to
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: set the tone on some stuff and just trying to
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: shed some light on maybe some of the strategies.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: This is one of the ones.
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: That he loves to hear, where there's a player holding
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: out for a contract is being seen is being seen
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: as one of the causes for prices of everything going up.
• 16:04
  Speaker 8: But what I would ask the person who asks this
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: question is who sets prices? Is it players or is
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: it the person who owns the team, Because if you're
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: hoping for players to take discounts to stay where they
• 16:18
  Speaker 8: are and prices not to go down, that is a
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: choice that has to be made by the second party.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: Like they can do that all day.
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: But if the if the person who sets the prices
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: chooses to continue to increase them, there's nothing a player
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: can do about it because they don't have any power
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: over that at all. It's not their decision. And I
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: understand how it's one of the main expenses for a team,
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: but it like they don't they have no there is
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: no reason for them to tell you the truth about
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: why prices are going They don't have to, and so
• 16:52
  Speaker 8: that they don't, and it's it's built.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: That way on purpose.
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: And when Rob reads stuff like this, he's like, exactly,
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: it's the player's fault. All your prices are going up.
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: But it's it's one of the many factors. Sure it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: a big expense for the team, but it's about percentage
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: of the money being made. When revenues are going are
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: breaking records every single year, salaries total salary is also
• 17:16
  Speaker 8: going to have.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: To go up with that because it's called fairness.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: And if you're if they keep saying, ah, we got
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: to raise ticket prices, that just means they want to
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: maintain how much money they get to take off the
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: top at your expense. It's it's it's just the way.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: That it works.
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: And if they can make you feel like it's a
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: player's fault for that, then even better. It's they're not
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: blaming me, they're blaming the employee that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: I have to pay.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: That just doesn't really line up for me and is
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: one major strategy put in play here.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: But you know what that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: Number is is the debate should that we should be
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: having and it's it's not and it's frustrating.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: So I just wanted to touch on that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Trev, they're never going to divulge those numbers.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: You know that tell you forget because you want to
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: be able to do.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It as a lawyer.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: So like so like makes a great point. Rob Manford
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: is a lawyer. I know, he's the commissioner Baseball. He's
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: a lawyer. He knows how to make he's smooth. He
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: is smooth as words.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: You really have to pay.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Attention to what he's saying and how he's saying things,
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: because again, I also like this is a fan who
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: might have who also trip may have read some of
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: the Rob Manford's words, because that's what he wants, like
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: you said, and so there's a lot, there's a there's
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: a lot to them.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Now that's a great answer. I love it. Yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Also, an algorithm is what decides your ticket prices on
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: a year by year basis. You could have the lowest
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: payroll in the game, but if you're selling out every game,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they're going to raise them. It has nothing to do
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: with anything else. Think about it, Okay, and no one's
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: knowing they're.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: Not cheaper, guys, pirates tickets are not cheaper.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, they're not cheaper.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Like, let's let's be real on it. There's one person
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: there that the players do not set any of that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: They also just wanted to cap this for the crowd
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: still listening about our last combo Aaron Judge is a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: superstar and he doesn't like go crazy after games one
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: way or another. He's on the Derek Jeter playbook. So
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: what what what are they even talking about when you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: start to get to the root of it. Sorry to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: go back to it, but I'm just like thinking as.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Cover, like you we said, as a matter of fact,
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: matter now I think about it, naming Yankee who acted.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: That way, memorization that that's.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: How they that's the Yankee way. Like, it's a great point.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: That's a great point. Glad you brought it back to it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: It's a great point.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You don't do that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: They don't do that. Hey, we've got Tampa Bay Times
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: reporter Mark Topkin joining us. Well, this is a fun
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: team to cover so far this year. Topp are great
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to have you on. Right to the good stuff, buy
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: or sell for the Rays. And if so, what do
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you think what do you think they're up to?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to answer your question.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: I'm probably gonna have to say both, which is kind
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: of what they typically tend to do. They kind of
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: almost pride themselves on not being just one or just
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: the other. Like they say, those labels like don't apply
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: to them, and that's kind of if you look back
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: their history, that is kind of how they've been doing it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: Be a little curious.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, Eric Neander kind of laid it out at
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: the end of.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: The All Star break talking to a couple of us
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: on the Zoom call and said, you know, if how
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: they play in these games leading up to the deadline
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: will determine how aggressive they are in adding he feels
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: like they are a team that has a chance to
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: play into October and win games in October. But he
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: also said, as he has in the past, how close
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: they are to the division lead will also be a factor,
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: because you know, the chance to win the division and
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: get one of those two buys is very appealing as well.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: So not doing so well on that front. Still six
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: and a half out, one more game against the White Sox,
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: then they go to Cincinnati, and then of course why
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: not just be in New York leading right up to
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: the deadline with a four game series against the Yankees,
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: knowing that they're also obviously playing to see what you
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: position they can put themselves in. So it's gonna be
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: an interesting week or week, I guess eight days or
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: so to see how this shakes out and they play
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: a day game on Thursday, So you could have a
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: situation where they finished that game Thursday and then they
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: make a trade or two and there's still time before
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: the sixth blog deadline.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: What are the significant needs in your mind? If they say, hey,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: we're generally going to buy, we had a good next
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: week of play, we're in contention, what do you think
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they're going to do or what do you think they're
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: going to target?
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: Well, I think, as you guys were talking about, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: Trevor mentioned, you know, the bullpen arms. There's a lot
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: of them out there, their premium some of the premium guys,
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: they certainly could use one, even though they feel a
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: little better. Edwin who said I looked a little better
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: last night in the time before than he had right
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: before the break. But I would think a bullpen arm.
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: And then I heard you guys talking about Morell. That
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: would seem like a spot that they could upgrade at
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: since he really doesn't play very much. But Johnny DeLuca
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: just started to rehab a triple A. Ritchie Polasio has
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: just started to rehab a triple A. So you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: it's one of those where it would have to probably
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: be a significant upgrade to make it worthwhile, because you
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: not only would be replacing morel but you'd then be
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: blocking De Luca and or Plasios from coming back. But
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: a right handed power bat, you know, to go with
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: the lefties, you know, Brandon Loud, Johnny Ronda, Josh Lowe.
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: It would seem like another right handed bat to help
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: them from that side. I mean, Caminero certainly has done well,
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: Yandi's certainly done well. But you know, one more kind
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: of key right handed bat I would think would make sense.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: But knowing how they operate, what makes sense with me,
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: They'll go out and get a lefty starter or something.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: And I want to stay there because you talk about
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: what makes sense, because I was going to say, so
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: you're saying the Ras are just gonna do raise things
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: and wait for those guys to come back and try
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: to make it run and trust in the process as
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: they as they usually do. And one thing I want
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: to ask you, you know, are you surprised that where
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: they are as far as you know, when you looked
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: at everything that was going on prior to the season,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: the stadium being you know, washed away and moving around,
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: and you know, uncertainty about signing certain guys.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised at how.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Competitive they have been or you or you knew that
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: these guys they could band together and be competitive in
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: alist because I'm surprised actually that they are where they
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: are right now.
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: Not with you, Cam, I mean, I thought that they
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: did not do enough during the offseason. We were surprised
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: they didn't do more to upgrade the offense. You know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Danny Jansen turns out to have been a pretty solid signing,
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: but that wasn't like a significant offensive upgrade. There were
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: a lot of intangible things that he brought that they wanted. Also,
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: the Hastan Kim move was puzzling at the time. Obviously,
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: the rehab took longer than they expected. So it's kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: of hard to say if that's going to end up
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: working out good or bad or horrible or great, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: somewhere on the spectrum. I don't know where it's gonna
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: end up being. But yeah, I am surprised because it
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: didn't seem like they did enough to improve what was
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: one of the worst offenses in the majors. They believed,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: as you said, in their process that they call it,
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: they weren't twenty three was an aberration.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: They weren't that good. Twenty four was an aberration. They
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: weren't that bad.
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: They thought they'd be somewhere in the mid And you
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: know those five six weeks where they went off on
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: that twenty five and nine run, and they looked like
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: a team that was going to be really good because
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: they were doing it in so many different ways. They
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: were doing it with power, they were doing it with speed.
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: They are a track team when they've got the right
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: guys out there, and they were doing it with small ball.
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's still some players joking, but Kevin Cash
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: used to not even like to use the B word,
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: and they're bunting all over the place now. So it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: been a really interesting evolution in corporation of creativity, a
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: versatal offense, different ways to do things. To combine that
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: with their pitching staff, and they look like a really
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: serious postseason contending team. Then they just seem to run
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: out of gas and the bullpen kind of went crazy
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: bad in those last ten games on that roach. If
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: they went two and eight, they were twelve four and
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: twelve going into the break, and they win two out
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: of three against Baltimore one on one so far against
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: the White Sox.
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• 25:51
  Speaker 8: Speaking of pitching and a guy who's on his rehab
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: apparent or rehab assignment and has been considered the ace
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: of this team, Shane McClanahan hasn't pitched this year and
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: he was kinda to take a step back again with
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: some bicep tenanitis.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Two parter are here.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: How does that change the mindset for starting pitching going
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: into the deadline because this is not the best timing
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: for that. Or do you think that they try to
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: maybe go grab somebody, slide everybody up. I know they've
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: had a lot of uh, they've had a lot of
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: luck in starter health this year. Or do we think
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: that like Joe Boyle could get some starts. I know
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: that he's been throwing multiple innings. Are trying to keep
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: him there without getting him into the one inning.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Archetype.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: You don't want to do that if you can avoid it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Which one, what what are we thinking for Shane for
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: his timeline coming back and how does that affect maybe
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: some decisions being made here in the next eight days.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it could have an impact.
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: I think first of all, we always have to assume
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: they know more than we do right as far as
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: from the medical thing and where things are. If this
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: truly is what they said yesterday, just a couple maybe
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: that push is Shane to mid August. It still gives
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: you the opportunity if you want to to trade a starter,
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: because you do have Joe Boyle to step in. They've
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: had a couple guys from Triple A that have been
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: up here and shown well at times, and Ian Seymour,
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: Joe Rock came up and threw.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: They've got some depth there.
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: But I think ideally Shane was set up to step
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: in perfectly if they decided to trade Zach Lettel, who
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: looks to be tradable by Ray's standards. He makes a
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: fair amount of money, He's going to his free agent year,
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: probably doesn't come back next year, assuming everyone's healthy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: But if you know you.
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: Had Shane kind of lined up right, if you traded him,
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: Shane was gonna be ready right around the deadline, it
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: would have been.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: A very clean fit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: You do have Joe Boyle, they are one hundred percent
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: sure he could step right into the rotation. And then
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: there's some you know, people that think he should be
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: in the rotation right now. But you know there's been
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: rivers about TODs Bradley. Obviously his name's gotten thrown out there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: I think Shane McClanahan being set back has to give
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: them a little more caution about trading a starter right
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: now if they feel like they're going to be in
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: this race, because you don't know with the Drew Rasmusen
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: workload how that's going to play out. He looked pretty
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: good for the first three innings last night, got to
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: hit around a little bit in the fourth.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: That was it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: They hoped to get him back to that five to
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: six range where he was and was really good and
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: made himself an All Star in the first half. But
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: you know they talked about one hundred and fifty inning
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: limit on him. Yeah, I don't know if that includes.
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: I don't know if you get like that's like the
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: home run derby. You get bonus rounds, you get bonus
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: innings if you make the postseason. I don't know how
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: that works, but I do think you gotta be a
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: little more cautious now in trading a starter. If Shane
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: is not on track to come back, and you mentioned
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: he hasn't pitched this year, he didn't pitch last year either.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: That's the other thing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Don't forget he he's coming up on two full years
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: since he last pitched in a game. So even then,
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: if he comes back healthy, how much is it fair
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: to expect a guy who hasn't faced major league hitters
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: in two years?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got one for you here. Let's get
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to position players a little more on Brandon Law hitting
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the shelf for this club and how much that affects
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: things over the next few weeks.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: I mean, he was, you know, he had the oblique
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: thing happened the same day he made the All Star
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: team up in Minnesota. They had a kind of three
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  Speaker 9: or four days to kind of see how he felt,
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  Speaker 9: did a little bit of a huddle, and you know,
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  Speaker 9: made what was really a team first decision for him
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  Speaker 9: not to be active for the All Star Game, not
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: take a chance on taking a swing in the All
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  Speaker 9: Star Game and knocking himself out for an extended period.
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  Speaker 9: He comes back and suddenly his foot starts hurting the
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: other day, and you know, it turns out to be
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: They thought planner frostiagis now they're saying tendonitis.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever it is.
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  Speaker 9: It's going to knock him out for at least a week,
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  Speaker 9: you know, ten days whatever ends up being again. So
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: it's been tough. I mean they talk a lot. Kevin
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: Cash often says, how Yanni Diez goes is how the
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: Rays goes. But you can also make a case how
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Brandon Laud goes is how the Rays goes sometimes, and
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  Speaker 9: him not playing during most of that last road trip
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  Speaker 9: I don't think is a coincidence in their offense dagnating
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: during that last road trip before the All Star break,
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: so they need him back in there. I think they're
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: optimistic this will be a short term thing. There's a
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: lot of different treatments you do for those kind of injuries.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: They feel like he'll be back relatively soon at the
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: end of the ten days. But yeah, that takes you
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: right up to the day before the trade deadline if
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: you lose a bunch of games. I mean, he's a
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: guy that could be in trade conversations or teams not
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  Speaker 9: gonna be a little leary since he stopped playing. I mean,
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: it just the levels, what you call it, the layers
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  Speaker 9: of the onion, or on this time of year or
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: on anything like this, are always so thick and deep.
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  Speaker 6: I want to ask you about a guy who I
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: think is he's box office when you talk about exciting
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: and especially in the day and age where so many strikeouts,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: you know, so much swing and miss Chanler Simpson. You know,
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  Speaker 6: first off, I know moves are made and there's a
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: pecking order, you know when you talk about prospects and
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: who's ahead of who. For one, I was extremely surprised
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: that he ever got sent back down.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that you figure out a
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: way to make room for.
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  Speaker 6: Now he's back, continue to be that smart plug, continue to,
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: you know, really just lead that offense. How special is
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: he and do they think like Chandler Simpsons, Well, all
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: look at some of his Motor League numbers. He's had
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: an eight hundred ops before. When you talk about a
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: guy who doesn't have a lot of pop, he can
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: do things with his speed that will I think make
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: up for the lack of power. What do you think
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: about Chandler Simpson and what are the Rays see him
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  Speaker 6: as far as is he there to stay?
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  Speaker 9: I think he's there to stay for now for sure,
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: and they couldn't be more pleased with not only what
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: he did to get here, and think about this. He
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: was a twenty twenty two draft pick who played second
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: base at Georgia Tech, and now he's playing center field
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  Speaker 9: in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Three years later.
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  Speaker 5: He went from I looked this up.
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  Speaker 9: It was less than a year his last game at
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: Bowling Green in twenty twenty four to his first game
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: in the big leagues this year.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: It was less than a year to go from High A.
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  Speaker 9: To Double A to Triple A to the big leagues
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  Speaker 9: and make an impact him. He's not just a twenty
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: sixth man here. He is a huge part of what
• 31:53
  Speaker 9: they do. And I think give the Rays. You guys
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: were talking before I heard part of the conversation about
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: the Rays had this reputation for you know, they always
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: make good trades. Obviously they don't always make good trades,
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: but many work out in their favor.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 9: I think the drafting and the player development has gotten
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: better too, And Channeler Simpson is a credit to those people,
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: to their scouts, to their player development people, because you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: the word was, hey, he's got some raw skills, but
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: this is guy's you know, it's gonna take some work
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: to get him there, and they got him there. And
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: Eric Neander was saying during spring training, you know, it
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: was almost like that was his guy. You know, like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: I think Channel Simpson is going to play a baby
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: this year. I think he's gonna have an impact and okay,
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: yeah whatever. You know, you hear a lot of things
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: in spring training and they were right on with this kid.
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: And he is a great kid. He has got the
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: ability to keep getting better. I did a piece on
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: him in Today's Tampa Bay Times, Tampa Bay Dot Comfrey
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  Speaker 9: Club and just they talk about he understands who he is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: He doesn't try to be something else. He doesn't try
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  Speaker 9: to get too big, he doesn't try to now hit
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  Speaker 9: the ball out of the park. He doesn't try to
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: do things he can't do. He bunts, he hits it
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: on the ground, he hits it on the line. He
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: runs like crazy. He causes defense. Kevin Cash, he used
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: the phrase the other day and this is a paraphrase.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: I'm pretty close, he said. Shadow Simpson causes the biggest
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: defensive shifts and adjustments in baseball of any hitter. If
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: you watch how the corner infielders have to come way
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: inc potential bunt, the middle endfielders usually played double play depth.
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: The outfielders kind of crash in and sometimes shift over
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  Speaker 9: to the gap to try to make sure he doesn't
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  Speaker 9: hit the ball past them and get a double or
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: triple or inside the park home run.
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: I want to expand a little bit on that too,
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: because he kind of covered a little bit of what
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: my question is going to be. Because with Chandler Simpson
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: I watch he's fun to watch.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Especially running home the first right.
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  Speaker 8: If you plink, you're gonna miss it, and it's very
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: hard to take your eyes just off him as a viewer.
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: But what I actually loved watching is even this is
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: what I did back when Billy Hamilton was doing similar things,
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: is watching the reaction of the guys needing to field
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: the ball when he is running. And so he has
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: definitely had an impact on some specific games. So, off
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: the top of your head, is there any specific play
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: where you a defender who was known for being a
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: very good defender seem a little bit out of sorts
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: because they had to get Chandler A. Simpson out, maybe
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: more so than they ever any other guy in the league.
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  Speaker 8: Like Anthony Volpi, for example, is a guy who I've
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: seen rush by him a couple of times, but anyone
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: else that you've noticed.
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  Speaker 5: I think we've seen it a couple of times.
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  Speaker 9: I think if you go back to the play, I
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: know it was controversial because the scoring change was made
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: a little bit later, but the play that essentially broke
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: up mac freedz no hitter. Here was a ground ball
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: between first base and the mound, and it was correctly
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: scored a base hit. He just beat it out. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: there was nobody did anything wrong. Nobody could have done
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: anything better. He was just that fast and put the
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: ball on the right spot. But I don't have a
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: great other example for you, Trevor where there's one that
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: stands out. But I would say you just see the
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: rush from the throws back. Chad Mattola, the Rais hitting
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: coach who obviously has worked very closely with Chandler, we
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: were talking the other day. I didn't get this in
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: the article, but he had a good idea. He said,
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: there should be like another stat column because you get
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: penalized right when you reach on an error. It's just
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: scored as if you made an out. But he said,
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: the way Chandler's causing errors, there should be like a
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: different kind of error where you still get credit for
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: the hit because he forced the error, like a forced
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: error versus an error that you know, a fielder makes
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: him commission.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Basically, this is a forced error.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's costing him money. I mean, if you think
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: about it, he's going to go to arbitration at some
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: point in his life. I mean, those stats are real,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: they matter for things for the individual. Obviously it makes
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: the impact on the game. But it's good, combo topper,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: great to have you on. Thank you for the time.
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  Speaker 5: We'll catch you soon, all right, It sounds good anytime.
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  Speaker 5: Guys appreciate