Latest / Weeknight Mysteries Podcast / Ep. 117 | Color Out of Space - Lovecraft & The Total Horror Of Lobotomy
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- 0:00Speaker 1: If anyone followed me on my gaming channel, they might
- 0:03Speaker 1: have seen that I was playing the game Call of Cthulhu.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I kind of gave up on it, I probably will
- 0:08Speaker 1: return to it at some point, but the thing that
- 0:11Speaker 1: made me stop playing it was that I started to
- 0:13Speaker 1: reread Lovecraft, and it kind of made me realize how
- 0:16Speaker 1: unloved Craftian the game was. I think this is a
- 0:20Speaker 1: problem that plays a lot of Lovecraft adaptations, whether it's
- 0:23Speaker 1: movies or video games. You can insert as much Lovecraftian
- 0:27Speaker 1: lore as you want, but in my opinion this doesn't
- 0:30Speaker 1: make it a Lovecraftian horror. I think there's something in
- 0:34Speaker 1: Lovecraft writing that is extremely hard to get across in
- 0:36Speaker 1: a visual medium, I think maybe that's why it's so
- 0:39Speaker 1: hard for people to adapt his works. There's something unseeable
- 0:43Speaker 1: or unexplainable in his writings, which is very hard to
- 0:46Speaker 1: convey when you're showing the thing visually on the screen.
- 0:50Speaker 1: So when I started hearing reviews of The Color Outer Space,
- 0:53Speaker 1: I got pretty excited. As people were saying it was
- 0:57Speaker 1: one of the most faithful adaptations, it was finally Lovecraft
- 1:01Speaker 1: done right, and so I was quite excited to see it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: It also stars Nicolas Cage, who is kind of a
- 1:07Speaker 1: lovely more hate him kind of actor, but I've got
- 1:10Speaker 1: to say I do quite enjoy his films, including The
- 1:13Speaker 1: Wicker Man. So I thought I would give it a
- 1:15Speaker 1: go and see what the fuss was all about. Is
- 1:19Speaker 1: it as faithful as people say? So I've got to
- 1:22Speaker 1: say the first impression of this film and the most
- 1:24Speaker 1: striking thing about it is the visuals. Every scene is
- 1:28Speaker 1: just absolutely stunning to look at. It's a film about
- 1:32Speaker 1: color as the title might imply, but they've just really
- 1:35Speaker 1: gone to town on the color aspect of this story.
- 1:39Speaker 1: It's a film that tells its story with color, I think.
- 1:43Speaker 1: It seems like the color is the most important thing
- 1:45Speaker 1: on the screen at all times. Everything looks like they've
- 1:49Speaker 1: boosted up the saturation to maximum, not in a way
- 1:52Speaker 1: that looks wholly unnatural. It just gives everything its like
- 1:56Speaker 1: gorgeous lush look to it. And it's quite an interesting
- 1:59Speaker 1: choice for a horror adaptation, especially with Lovecraft. I know
- 2:04Speaker 1: whenever I read the stories in my head they're always
- 2:07Speaker 1: very dark, gloomy type of stories, and that's the kind
- 2:10Speaker 1: of imagery I have in my head. And generally horror
- 2:14Speaker 1: films are not all that colorful. The colors in it
- 2:17Speaker 1: remind me almost of the original Suspiria movie. sort of bright,
- 2:22Speaker 1: clashing colors that flash in and out on the screen.
- 2:25Speaker 1: There's something really important about the color coding in the movie,
- 2:29Speaker 1: and I'd love to see someone go through it scene
- 2:31Speaker 1: by scene and decode every use of color in the film,
- 2:34Speaker 1: because as well as the alien color, there's just so
- 2:36Speaker 1: much more going on. I've noticed that almost every indoor
- 2:41Speaker 1: scene they seem to be using blue and this orangey-brown
- 2:43Speaker 1: color contrast to the game to each other. And then
- 2:47Speaker 1: on the outdoor scenes you've got these greens and purples,
- 2:50Speaker 1: contrast in, and then each character seems to have their
- 2:53Speaker 1: own color coding. For example, the mother character always seems
- 2:57Speaker 1: to be wearing some sort of white outfit, and the
- 3:00Speaker 1: daughter's always wearing black. The ward character who plays the
- 3:04Speaker 1: narrator in the original story, he's always seems to be
- 3:07Speaker 1: wearing blue. Nicolas Gage is often seen wearing this red
- 3:11Speaker 1: check color, which I think might be a reference to
- 3:14Speaker 1: the original story. There is a certain fate that meets
- 3:17Speaker 1: his equivalent character in the story, Towards the end the
- 3:20Speaker 1: red checked cloth plays some sort of role. So it's
- 3:24Speaker 1: probably just a nod towards the original story but yeah
- 3:28Speaker 1: I think there's something really important with the color even
- 3:31Speaker 1: more than obvious and like I said I'd love to
- 3:34Speaker 1: see someone do an analysis of the color in this
- 3:36Speaker 1: movie and exactly what the meaning of each color is.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Even without deciphering everything going on it's just beautiful to
- 3:43Speaker 1: look at. It almost all takes place in the middle
- 3:47Speaker 1: of this forest. there's the family who live deep within
- 3:50Speaker 1: this woodland. And so every background is just this sea
- 3:54Speaker 1: of green. At the beginning of the movie, everything just
- 3:57Speaker 1: starts out just beautiful green in the background, and then
- 4:00Speaker 1: you get these sort of traces of purple weaved fruit things.
- 4:04Speaker 1: The idea of like a purple spiral, it always seems
- 4:07Speaker 1: to represent something unnatural. For example, the purple unnatural hair
- 4:12Speaker 1: dye in Slovenia's hair, sort of spiraling through her hair,
- 4:16Speaker 1: and then when they go to where Tommy Chong's character,
- 4:19Speaker 1: they go towards his house, and he's got these ribbons
- 4:21Speaker 1: wrapped around to the trees and spiral shapes in the
- 4:24Speaker 1: same purple color. It seems to sort of try and
- 4:27Speaker 1: get this idea in your head from the start that
- 4:29Speaker 1: this purple magenta color is a kind of unnatural source
- 4:32Speaker 1: among the greenery and natural colors of the woodland. It's
- 4:36Speaker 1: kind of an obvious signal, but it's a nice little
- 4:39Speaker 1: bit of foreshadowing. So basically, the basic plot of the story,
- 4:44Speaker 1: and I'm going to try not to give too many
- 4:46Speaker 1: strong spoilers here, but there will be some mild ones.
- 4:50Speaker 1: A meteorite lands in Nicolas Cage's front garden, and then
- 4:53Speaker 1: within the meteorite is the color from outer space. I
- 4:57Speaker 1: think when Lovecraft was originally writing the story, he wanted
- 5:00Speaker 1: to convey an alien presence that was so incomprehensible to
- 5:03Speaker 1: human minds that the only way they had to describe
- 5:06Speaker 1: it was of being a color. So in the original story,
- 5:09Speaker 1: he describes it as a color which they've never seen before.
- 5:13Speaker 1: It's like an unimaginable color. It's something that doesn't exist
- 5:18Speaker 1: in our human world. It's a color that shouldn't exist
- 5:21Speaker 1: in nature. Obviously, you can't just invent a new color,
- 5:26Speaker 1: so they've used this like magenta color, but I was
- 5:28Speaker 1: actually looking on at IMDB and they've got some interesting
- 5:31Speaker 1: trivia about the use of the color. They use magenta
- 5:35Speaker 1: because it's a color that doesn't exist from a single
- 5:37Speaker 1: wavelength of light as part of the color spectrum of
- 5:40Speaker 1: visible light. I don't really understand what that means to
- 5:43Speaker 1: be honest. It's an extra spectral color that is only
- 5:47Speaker 1: perceived by humans in a specific interaction of the optical rods.
- 5:52Speaker 1: So anyway, there's an interesting explanation of why they use magenta,
- 5:56Speaker 1: but obviously it's a decent replacement for the indescribable color
- 6:00Speaker 1: of the original story, and it looks absolutely stunning in
- 6:03Speaker 1: the archive. You've got this kind of idea of this
- 6:06Speaker 1: magenta color slowly starting to invade the lush greenery of
- 6:09Speaker 1: their surroundings, and first it starts out, you know, the
- 6:13Speaker 1: little flowers start sprouting, and then you see like the
- 6:16Speaker 1: tendrils wrapping round a tree, mirroring the coloring in the
- 6:19Speaker 1: daughter's hair and the ribbons and the trees. You just
- 6:22Speaker 1: get this really interesting sense. This is where they sort
- 6:26Speaker 1: of capture the Lovecraftian element the best. There's this slowly
- 6:30Speaker 1: creeping into their lives. This magenta color slowly infecting the
- 6:35Speaker 1: world around them, and as it begins to infect the
- 6:37Speaker 1: world around them, it starts to affect their mental state,
- 6:41Speaker 1: and it's done really effectively. I would say for the
- 6:44Speaker 1: first two thirds of the movie, this sort of slow
- 6:46Speaker 1: creeping in of this color, this alien color, and the
- 6:50Speaker 1: beautiful at the beginning of the movie. And also there's
- 6:53Speaker 1: a lot of things where they use color to signal
- 6:55Speaker 1: danger like where she cracks the egg and has blood
- 6:58Speaker 1: in the egg, and the Delizards with the bright colors
- 7:00Speaker 1: on them to indicate that they might be poisonous or dangerous.
- 7:04Speaker 1: You know, always always using these colors to signal some
- 7:07Speaker 1: kind of present danger or illness or something that is
- 7:10Speaker 1: out of place or unnatural. It's also really obvious that
- 7:14Speaker 1: they are absolutely passionate about Lovecraft. There's so many little
- 7:19Speaker 1: references in there, and probably loads that completely went over
- 7:22Speaker 1: my head. I'm not like a huge Lovecraft fan, but
- 7:26Speaker 1: you know, there's all these like references to things within
- 7:29Speaker 1: the Lovecraft universe, and also how it would be in
- 7:32Speaker 1: a modern world. So I really like the daughter has
- 7:36Speaker 1: the cheap paperback Necronomicon that she's reading, and it is
- 7:39Speaker 1: the kind of thing that if this book existed in
- 7:41Speaker 1: the real world, this is kind of the format that
- 7:43Speaker 1: you would expect to get it in in the modern world.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Beautiful film, I really love the atmosphere at the beginning
- 7:50Speaker 1: of this creeping, invading. It feels really menacing and you
- 7:54Speaker 1: don't really know what's going on, and the way it
- 7:56Speaker 1: starts to affect the mentality of the family. I think
- 8:00Speaker 1: towards the end, it starts to fall apart slightly though.
- 8:04Speaker 1: It gets to a point where it starts to get
- 8:06Speaker 1: a bit too crazy. In the original story, the way
- 8:10Speaker 1: they call her out of space ultimately affects people and
- 8:13Speaker 1: how it affects like livestock is it kind of starts
- 8:15Speaker 1: to make them disintegrate. It kind of starts to change
- 8:19Speaker 1: things in really subtle ways, like they describe how they
- 8:22Speaker 1: keep finding animals, and they can't really tell what's wrong
- 8:25Speaker 1: with them, but they've, you know, they find them it's
- 8:28Speaker 1: like a woodchuck or something like that, and it's been
- 8:31Speaker 1: transformed in some way they can't really tell how it
- 8:33Speaker 1: just looks unnatural to them, and they see like a
- 8:36Speaker 1: hare leaping across the road or a rabbit, and it's
- 8:38Speaker 1: its stride is a bit too long to be normal.
- 8:42Speaker 1: It's just something when they see it they can't describe it,
- 8:44Speaker 1: it's just something unnatural and uncanny about their creatures the
- 8:48Speaker 1: way they've been mutated. The movie doesn't go that subtle,
- 8:52Speaker 1: let me just say without getting any spoilers, it's very
- 8:55Speaker 1: unsubtle in its conveying of the horror. This is sort
- 8:58Speaker 1: of the sum of the parts one don't like that
- 9:00Speaker 1: much about the film. It starts to take on a
- 9:03Speaker 1: bit of like a body horror vibe, which would be fine,
- 9:07Speaker 1: and it's fine for them to stray a bit from
- 9:08Speaker 1: the source material, but they rely way too much on
- 9:11Speaker 1: computer generated effects to achieve these body horror scenes, and
- 9:15Speaker 1: as good as it is, I'm not being down on
- 9:17Speaker 1: the people who did these CG effects. It just never
- 9:21Speaker 1: looks right, you can always just tell it's not really there,
- 9:24Speaker 1: even if they had a slightly cheaper looking practical effect.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I just think it would look so much better, it
- 9:30Speaker 1: looks so much more realistic, and it's a shame they
- 9:33Speaker 1: didn't go with that. I think it starts to slightly
- 9:36Speaker 1: fall apart at that point for me the movie, so
- 9:39Speaker 1: I'm going to go over some of the things I
- 9:41Speaker 1: didn't like in the film. The characters are all kind
- 9:44Speaker 1: of a bit stereotypical. You've got an English Cage playing
- 9:48Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage, you've got Tommy Chong playing Tommy Chong, you've
- 9:52Speaker 1: got the stoner teenagey brother, you've got the wife who's
- 9:55Speaker 1: down of cancer, and you've got the small child who
- 9:57Speaker 1: basically acts as the creepy kid Simmel. to the one
- 10:00Speaker 1: in Poltergeist who goes there, here, basically plays that role,
- 10:04Speaker 1: and then you've got the the wife cracking snarky teenager.
- 10:08Speaker 1: This role seems to be in every movie these days,
- 10:11Speaker 1: I don't know why they always have to insert this
- 10:13Speaker 1: sort of character, it's basically the snarky teenage girl character
- 10:17Speaker 1: who always has a one line of every scene, I
- 10:19Speaker 1: call it the Liv Huseong character. Yeah they did this
- 10:23Speaker 1: with the IT movies, they always had to have like
- 10:26Speaker 1: witty one-liners whenever something scary happens, and it kind of
- 10:29Speaker 1: ended up sort of reducing the horror factor of a
- 10:31Speaker 1: lot of scenes, and although it's not too bad in
- 10:34Speaker 1: this movie, there is a bit of that, there's a
- 10:37Speaker 1: bit of a luller and I'm comedy, I don't know
- 10:39Speaker 1: what the obsession of alpacas is, they always have alpacas
- 10:42Speaker 1: in there, because it's I don't know. I don't know
- 10:45Speaker 1: if it's some reference that goes over my head, but
- 10:48Speaker 1: it's a bit sort of. Oh look at us how
- 10:51Speaker 1: random we are, we've got alpacas, I don't know, it's
- 10:54Speaker 1: good to have a bit of light relief, but I
- 10:56Speaker 1: don't know if in this film sometimes it felt a
- 10:58Speaker 1: bit out of place, so yeah I was going to
- 11:00Speaker 1: go say about the characters in a film, I didn't
- 11:03Speaker 1: like him too much because he all felt a bit typical,
- 11:06Speaker 1: but you can tell with this movie they're trying to
- 11:08Speaker 1: do something very different with a horror movie, and a
- 11:10Speaker 1: lot of the characters felt very tropey, if you know
- 11:13Speaker 1: what I mean, they felt very like, you'd seen them
- 11:17Speaker 1: in every other horror movie. and I kind of wish
- 11:20Speaker 1: they'd done something slightly different with the characters as well
- 11:23Speaker 1: as the movie itself. The final act of the movie,
- 11:26Speaker 1: it all feels a bit muddled, the problem is the
- 11:29Speaker 1: beginning of the film builds up so well this horror,
- 11:32Speaker 1: and it all sort of ends in a crescendo, and
- 11:34Speaker 1: it all feels a bit sort of, they're just throwing
- 11:37Speaker 1: a load of things at your load of elements, and
- 11:39Speaker 1: whereas I think if they went a bit more slow,
- 11:42Speaker 1: a bit more slow-paced and subtle with the horrors, it
- 11:45Speaker 1: would be more effective. For example, I think there's some
- 11:48Speaker 1: genuinely creepy moments, for example, when there's something that happens
- 11:52Speaker 1: to the mother and the younger son, when it first
- 11:55Speaker 1: reveals what happens to them, it's pretty horrific. You feel like,
- 12:00Speaker 1: oh my god, that's horrible, and the reactions of the
- 12:03Speaker 1: family are really good, and you kind of feel that
- 12:05Speaker 1: horror along with them, and then they just kind of,
- 12:08Speaker 1: they don't know much else with it, they don't explore
- 12:11Speaker 1: the horror of that situation enough. and I think they
- 12:13Speaker 1: could have explored this idea a little bit more, what
- 12:16Speaker 1: they do with the mother and the younger son is
- 12:18Speaker 1: pretty horrific, and I think they could have sort of
- 12:21Speaker 1: explored the family's reaction to that a little bit more
- 12:23Speaker 1: than they do, like you school a little bit further
- 12:27Speaker 1: with it. And there's another really good moment where they
- 12:30Speaker 1: go back to Tommy Jong's house, and there's just this
- 12:33Speaker 1: sound from outside, just the sound design at this moment,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and the film is really good, it has a really
- 12:39Speaker 1: sinister effect, I think. It shows real moments of horror,
- 12:43Speaker 1: but it's kind of interspersed at this point with a
- 12:46Speaker 1: lot of very noisy scenes, a lot of very bright
- 12:48Speaker 1: flashing colors that are slightly disorientating, and I think it
- 12:52Speaker 1: kind of takes away from the horror in certain scenes,
- 12:55Speaker 1: it gets a bit kind of a bit over the top.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I'm not being too down on the movie, I just
- 13:00Speaker 1: think towards the end it could have been torn down
- 13:02Speaker 1: a little bit. I understand what they're doing with the colors,
- 13:06Speaker 1: but it gets so bright and psychedelic that it actually
- 13:08Speaker 1: becomes quite difficult to watch. It's like I was getting
- 13:12Speaker 1: a headache at some point, I remember there was a
- 13:15Speaker 1: scene where there was like this a blue flashing light
- 13:17Speaker 1: from a police car, and it was interspersed with this
- 13:20Speaker 1: bright magenta color, and it was flashing across people's faces,
- 13:23Speaker 1: and it was just like I was getting a headache
- 13:25Speaker 1: from watching it, it was so disorientating, and you know
- 13:28Speaker 1: it's interesting visually, but it's not horrific, it's not a
- 13:32Speaker 1: scary scene. It kind of like that they tried to
- 13:35Speaker 1: do something slightly different with what the color does to
- 13:38Speaker 1: people and what it does to the animals. but I
- 13:40Speaker 1: think if they were going to go with CG effects,
- 13:42Speaker 1: I think if they stuck with what it says in
- 13:44Speaker 1: the book, it would have been more interesting, like in
- 13:47Speaker 1: the book, everything sort of turns grey and starts to
- 13:50Speaker 1: disintegrate as if it sort of turned into ash, and
- 13:52Speaker 1: I think they could have done that quite well with
- 13:54Speaker 1: computer generated effects, but I think what they went with
- 13:59Speaker 1: it all looked a bit cartoony, a bit slightly silly,
- 14:02Speaker 1: a lot of the CG kind of took me out
- 14:04Speaker 1: of the atmosphere of the movie at that point, but
- 14:06Speaker 1: there were things that they changed from the original story
- 14:09Speaker 1: that I had to like, I think in the Lovecraft's
- 14:11Speaker 1: original short story, in the final scene, he introduced like
- 14:15Speaker 1: a whole bunch of characters that haven't been introduced in
- 14:17Speaker 1: the rest of the story. Like the big climax of
- 14:20Speaker 1: the story involves a bunch of people that you don't,
- 14:23Speaker 1: apart from the narrator, you. Don't really know any of
- 14:27Speaker 1: the other characters, I think they do a better job,
- 14:30Speaker 1: it sort of combines two different parts of the original
- 14:32Speaker 1: story to make the end of the movie, which they
- 14:34Speaker 1: do that I think in a better way. All in all,
- 14:38Speaker 1: I enjoyed the movie. I don't want to sound like
- 14:40Speaker 1: I'm being down on it, I'm trying to list the
- 14:42Speaker 1: things that I didn't like, but I really like that
- 14:45Speaker 1: there's a modern horror movie that they've tried to do
- 14:47Speaker 1: something different with, I see so many trailers for horror
- 14:50Speaker 1: movies coming out and it just looks like every other
- 14:53Speaker 1: horror movie I've seen for the last 10 years or so.
- 14:56Speaker 1: You can tell immediately like beat for beat everything that's
- 14:58Speaker 1: going to happen in that movie, just from watching a trailer.
- 15:02Speaker 1: And it's just refreshing to see them finally do something
- 15:05Speaker 1: a bit different, the visuals and everything with the movie,
- 15:08Speaker 1: it's completely unique, the only thing I can compare it
- 15:11Speaker 1: to really is Annihilation, and I think Annihilation is quite
- 15:14Speaker 1: inspired by The Color Out of Space, I think maybe
- 15:17Speaker 1: Annihilation does an even better job of being Lovecraftian than
- 15:20Speaker 1: The Color Out of Space does. Annihilation kind of to
- 15:24Speaker 1: me is like a mashup of Lovecraft and J.D. Ballard's,
- 15:27Speaker 1: The Crystal World, it's just kind of like those two
- 15:30Speaker 1: books combined almost, I felt like some points this film
- 15:33Speaker 1: was trying to emulate Annihilation but not quite doing a
- 15:36Speaker 1: good enough job of it, but as I say on
- 15:38Speaker 1: a great different horror movie, and interesting enough to elevate
- 15:41Speaker 1: it above just the slew of rubbish that comes out
- 15:44Speaker 1: these days. I've really got to give the filmmakers kudos
- 15:47Speaker 1: for trying something different and being brave. Enough in it,
- 15:51Speaker 1: yeah like I say the first the first two thirds
- 15:54Speaker 1: of the movie I loved the last third of the
- 15:55Speaker 1: movie I didn't like as much but I didn't hate it,
- 15:58Speaker 1: it wasn't boring, it was just kind of lost its
- 16:01Speaker 1: pacing a little bit, it kind of went a bit
- 16:03Speaker 1: too much over the top for me, I say go
- 16:05Speaker 1: watch it, it's interesting at least. is it the best
- 16:08Speaker 1: Lovecraft adaptation? I don't know, I haven't seen them all,
- 16:13Speaker 1: has it captured the feeling of a Lovecraft movie? Possibly yes,
- 16:17Speaker 1: it's got the sort of weird unexplained even towards the
- 16:20Speaker 1: end of it, you don't quite know what the horror is,
- 16:23Speaker 1: it leaves enough questions in your mind, this is what
- 16:26Speaker 1: I like about Lovecraft is, you'll describe things in detail,
- 16:29Speaker 1: but you'll leave enough out for your mind to sort
- 16:31Speaker 1: of turn it over, I'll give you an example. the
- 16:34Speaker 1: mountains of madness are re-raising it and the way they
- 16:37Speaker 1: describe the city in the book. They give such a
- 16:39Speaker 1: detailed account of the structures of the buildings, when they
- 16:43Speaker 1: enter this forgotten city, they give such a detailed account
- 16:46Speaker 1: of all the structures of the buildings, how they're built,
- 16:49Speaker 1: what material they made out of all the rock, you
- 16:52Speaker 1: could probably just draw a picture and accurate map of
- 16:54Speaker 1: the city just from the description, but there's enough in
- 16:57Speaker 1: the descriptions to know that there's something unnatural about it,
- 17:00Speaker 1: that the narrator can't describe, and although you build up
- 17:03Speaker 1: in your mind this accurate image of the city, it
- 17:06Speaker 1: leaves something out because the narrator can't quite tell you
- 17:10Speaker 1: what it is, it's just something unnatural and evil about it,
- 17:14Speaker 1: it kind of causes you to turn this image of
- 17:16Speaker 1: the city around in your head and ponder on it,
- 17:18Speaker 1: and that's kind of I think where the horror is,
- 17:21Speaker 1: it's indescribable, and I think this movie does a good
- 17:23Speaker 1: job of conveying that sort of or knowable horror, it
- 17:26Speaker 1: does a good job of capturing that essence of the
- 17:29Speaker 1: weird cosmic horror that you can't quite place in your mind,
- 17:32Speaker 1: it doesn't quite make sense to a human brain, and
- 17:35Speaker 1: I think I think people who read Lovecraft will have a,
- 17:39Speaker 1: or will have their own opinion on what makes a
- 17:41Speaker 1: Lovecraftian horror, but for me it does a fairly good
- 17:44Speaker 1: job and I would recommend it and I've heard them
- 17:46Speaker 1: making like two more in the same series, so I'll
- 17:48Speaker 1: be excited to see them, I'll definitely be watching them
- 17:51Speaker 1: when they come out, now if you've seen it let
- 17:53Speaker 1: me know what you think as well, I'll be interested
- 17:55Speaker 1: to know whether people will enjoy it or not, oh
- 17:58Speaker 1: I know what I need to say as well or,
- 18:01Speaker 1: Something else, you'll notice more and more as you rewatch it,
- 18:04Speaker 1: there seems to be a lot of symbolism and images
- 18:07Speaker 1: in there which you might not spot on the first
- 18:08Speaker 1: time around or you might not make the connections, for
- 18:11Speaker 1: example at the beginning of the film when Lavinere is
- 18:14Speaker 1: doing that weird ritual, you see these dull legs hung
- 18:17Speaker 1: up in the tree in a kind of swastika pattern,
- 18:19Speaker 1: and then later on which I didn't realize. I didn't
- 18:22Speaker 1: spot it first as they're going towards Tommy Chong's house,
- 18:25Speaker 1: you see it dull hung. Up in the tree there
- 18:28Speaker 1: and it kind of, I didn't make the connection at
- 18:31Speaker 1: first but then I think well I wonder if there's
- 18:33Speaker 1: some connection between Tommy Chong's, oh he's, his character is
- 18:37Speaker 1: called Ezra, between Ezra and Lavinere that isn't quite explained
- 18:40Speaker 1: in the movie but maybe rewatching it you'll see more
- 18:43Speaker 1: links between these different characters. It seems like the kind
- 18:46Speaker 1: of movie where there's going to be a lot of
- 18:48Speaker 1: these like little weird symbols and easter eggs and things
- 18:50Speaker 1: to spot and I think. re-watching it you'll get more
- 18:54Speaker 1: out of it so yeah that was another thing i
- 18:56Speaker 1: think might be important is probably a movie that requires
- 18:59Speaker 1: a few viewings to appreciate fully in the past the
- 19:03Speaker 1: mentally ill were herded behind bars chained and beaten insanity
- 19:06Speaker 1: was looked upon as a disgraceful mysterious disease with no
- 19:10Speaker 1: hope of pure today the picture is changing iron bars
- 19:13Speaker 1: are giving way to modern safety and to new ideas
- 19:16Speaker 1: on the cause and treatment of mental illness In the
- 19:19Speaker 1: annals of medical history there looks one of the most
- 19:21Speaker 1: infamous and tragic procedures ever conceived, a procedure that's in
- 19:25Speaker 1: an attempt to cure the human mind would leave many
- 19:28Speaker 1: people as empty husks of their former selves. The 21st
- 19:32Speaker 1: century has witnessed significant breakthroughs in human brain research but
- 19:35Speaker 1: the path to modern neuroscience has been rather dark marked
- 19:39Speaker 1: by brutal medical experiments and accidents. In 1848 a young
- 19:44Speaker 1: foreman named Phineas Cage was at work preparing a railroad bed.
- 19:48Speaker 1: The terrain was rocky and then even requiring multiple holes
- 19:51Speaker 1: to be drilled into the rock and filled with black powder.
- 19:55Speaker 1: These black powder charges were meant to be covered with clay.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Phineas used a tamping iron, a 13-pound metal rod to
- 20:03Speaker 1: press each explosive charge tightly into the hole. These charges
- 20:08Speaker 1: would then be detonated from a safe distance. Unfortunately things
- 20:12Speaker 1: didn't go as planned that day. Whilst it was distracted,
- 20:16Speaker 1: Gage's tamping iron must have caught on a piece of
- 20:19Speaker 1: rock as it was compressing the explosive charge. This caused
- 20:23Speaker 1: a spark which ignited the black powder. The ensuing explosion
- 20:27Speaker 1: turned the tamping iron into a projectile. It shot upwards
- 20:31Speaker 1: and struck him in the face just below the cheekbones.
- 20:35Speaker 1: It went straight up through his head and exited the
- 20:37Speaker 1: top of his skull. The tamping iron itself landed 80
- 20:41Speaker 1: feet away, covered in blood and brain matter. When his
- 20:45Speaker 1: co-workers saw what had happened, they were sure that Phineas
- 20:48Speaker 1: was dead and they rushed to check on him and, too,
- 20:51Speaker 1: their astonishment they discovered that he was still alive and conscious.
- 20:56Speaker 1: A doctor who later arrived on the scene said, I
- 20:58Speaker 1: first noticed the wound upon the head before I alighted
- 21:01Speaker 1: from my carriage. the pulsations of the brain being very distinct.
- 21:06Speaker 1: The top of his head appeared somewhat like an inverted funnel,
- 21:10Speaker 1: as if some wet-shaped body had passed from below upward.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Gage got up and vomited. The effort of vomiting pressed
- 21:18Speaker 1: out about half a teacup full of brain which fell
- 21:20Speaker 1: upon the floor. Phineas had survived the injury, or rather
- 21:24Speaker 1: some of him had survived. When about ten weeks later
- 21:28Speaker 1: his wounds were healed, he got ready to return to work.
- 21:32Speaker 1: At this point it became clear that something wasn't quite right.
- 21:36Speaker 1: This man who had once been well-liked and had many
- 21:39Speaker 1: friends became fitful, irreverent and grossly profane, showing little deference
- 21:43Speaker 1: for his fellows. He quickly lost his job and his friends,
- 21:48Speaker 1: those who knew Phineas before the accident claimed that he
- 21:50Speaker 1: was no longer Gage. Naturally these events gained a lot
- 21:54Speaker 1: of attention and it sparked a debate. How was Gage
- 21:58Speaker 1: able to survive and why did his personality change? For
- 22:02Speaker 1: the time being science had no answer. In 1874 an
- 22:07Speaker 1: article was published in the American Journal of Medical Sciences.
- 22:11Speaker 1: In this article a man named Robert Bartholow describes the
- 22:14Speaker 1: case of a young woman named Mary Rafferty. She had
- 22:18Speaker 1: been brought to him whilst he was working in the hospital.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Mary was unique. As an infant she'd fallen into a
- 22:25Speaker 1: fire which had severely burned her scalp. Her hair had
- 22:29Speaker 1: never grown back so she was forced to weigh wigs
- 22:32Speaker 1: throughout her life. Unfortunately the friction from a whalebone in
- 22:36Speaker 1: her wig caused an ulcer to appear on her head.
- 22:40Speaker 1: A year later part of her skull had been eroded
- 22:42Speaker 1: and there was a hole around 2 inches in diameter.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Through this infected wound the pulsations of the brain were
- 22:48Speaker 1: plainly seen. Mary had been brought to him because her
- 22:52Speaker 1: brain seemed to be infected. The exposed part was covered
- 22:56Speaker 1: in a greenish ooze although Bartholow noted that this infection
- 22:59Speaker 1: didn't seem to affect Mary's behavior. At this time scientists
- 23:04Speaker 1: were conducting experiments on dogs' brains, injecting corrosive substances into
- 23:09Speaker 1: their brains to determine which part controlled specific functions. No
- 23:13Speaker 1: doctor had ever had the chance to experiment on our
- 23:16Speaker 1: living human brain before. Instead of trying to help the
- 23:20Speaker 1: young woman Bartholow decided to conduct a series of experiments
- 23:23Speaker 1: on her. He inserted electrodes into her brain through the
- 23:27Speaker 1: infected hole in her skull and ran an electrical current
- 23:30Speaker 1: through them. In his article Bartholow wrote, when communication was
- 23:34Speaker 1: made with the needles her countenance exhibited a great distress
- 23:37Speaker 1: and she began to cry. Very soon the left hand
- 23:41Speaker 1: was extended as if in an act of taking hold
- 23:43Speaker 1: of some object in front of her. The arm presently
- 23:47Speaker 1: was agitated with clonic spasms. Her eyes became fixed with
- 23:51Speaker 1: pupils widely dilated. Lips were blue and she frothed at
- 23:56Speaker 1: the mouth. Her breathing became stenorious. She lost consciousness and
- 24:01Speaker 1: was violently convulsed on the left side. The convulsions lasted
- 24:06Speaker 1: five minutes and was succeeded by coma. He wanted to
- 24:10Speaker 1: continue these experiments but Mary passed away as the infection
- 24:13Speaker 1: spread and covered her entire brain in a thick layer
- 24:16Speaker 1: of greenish-yellow pus. Naturally the publication of this article caused
- 24:21Speaker 1: a widespread outcry and this effectively stopped any research of
- 24:24Speaker 1: that nature in America for the time being. That was
- 24:28Speaker 1: until Walter Freeman came along. Walter Freeman was an American
- 24:32Speaker 1: neurologist with a mission. He came from a long line
- 24:36Speaker 1: of successful medical professionals and was determined to leave his
- 24:39Speaker 1: own mark on the history of medicine. As a neurologist
- 24:43Speaker 1: he'd spent a lot of time working with patients suffering
- 24:45Speaker 1: from psychiatric problems and he was painfully aware that medicine
- 24:49Speaker 1: had very little to offer them other than a straitjacket
- 24:51Speaker 1: in a mental institution. In 1935 Freeman attended a conference
- 24:56Speaker 1: in London and he was shown a case involving two
- 24:59Speaker 1: chimpanzees Becky and Lucy. These chimpanzees had been fairly aggressive
- 25:04Speaker 1: and quite difficult to work with. The scientists theorized that
- 25:08Speaker 1: cutting open skulls and removing the frontal lobes would make
- 25:11Speaker 1: both these chimps more docile. The theory turned out to
- 25:14Speaker 1: be correct. After parts of their brains were surgically removed,
- 25:19Speaker 1: Becky and Lucy became more relaxed, calmer and they were
- 25:22Speaker 1: no longer aggressive. The surgery did seem to damage some
- 25:26Speaker 1: of their mental abilities. After the procedure the chimps seemed
- 25:30Speaker 1: to be making more mistakes during cognitive tests but nevertheless
- 25:34Speaker 1: the operation seemed very promising. promising enough to try on
- 25:37Speaker 1: human brains. The procedure was called a leucotomy and it
- 25:41Speaker 1: had a success rate of about 35%. There was also
- 25:46Speaker 1: a significant risk of the individual becoming epileptic, disabled or
- 25:50Speaker 1: even dying as a result of the procedure. Whilst these
- 25:53Speaker 1: numbers seemed pretty shocking today, back then there was no
- 25:57Speaker 1: real alternative. Leucotomy offered at least a glimmer of hope
- 26:01Speaker 1: for those who were previously considered beyond help. With these
- 26:05Speaker 1: ideas in mind, Walter Freeman returned to the USA. He
- 26:10Speaker 1: changed the name of the procedure to the lobotomy and
- 26:12Speaker 1: in 1936 with his partner neurosurgeon James Watts, they performed
- 26:16Speaker 1: the first lobotomy on a patient in the United States.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Their first patient was Alice Hammett, a housewife from Topeka
- 26:24Speaker 1: who was plagued by anxiety, insomnia, and crushing depression for
- 26:28Speaker 1: most of her life. She was also prone to nervous
- 26:31Speaker 1: breakdowns and was plagued by extremely dark thoughts. Since Freeman
- 26:36Speaker 1: wasn't actually a surgeon, Watts had to do most of
- 26:39Speaker 1: the work. He was tasked with drilling holes into both
- 26:42Speaker 1: sides of the person's head or on top of the skull.
- 26:46Speaker 1: He was also responsible for cutting the neural connections between
- 26:49Speaker 1: the prefrontal cortex and other parts of the brain. The
- 26:53Speaker 1: prefrontal cortex is responsible for complex cognitive behavior, personality expression,
- 26:58Speaker 1: decision-making and moderating social behavior. Essentially everything that makes you
- 27:04Speaker 1: who you are as a person, It's also responsible for
- 27:06Speaker 1: long-term planning so if a person loses access to that
- 27:10Speaker 1: part of their brain, all of their goals and dreams vanish.
- 27:14Speaker 1: And so Alice had the operation, a hole was drilled
- 27:17Speaker 1: and the prefrontal cortex was severed. After the operation, it
- 27:21Speaker 1: seemed like Alice was completely cured. When she recovered from
- 27:25Speaker 1: the surgery, she no longer seemed depressed. Her anxiety seemed
- 27:30Speaker 1: to be all gone and overall she seemed to be
- 27:32Speaker 1: much more calm. The press praised Freeman and the first
- 27:36Speaker 1: lobotomy in the USA was considered to be a great success.
- 27:41Speaker 1: This was despite the fact that soon after the lobotomy,
- 27:44Speaker 1: Alice had begun stuttering and at times she seemed to
- 27:46Speaker 1: suddenly become disorientated. Some months after the surgery Alice suffered
- 27:51Speaker 1: from a violent convulsion, this was like the air side
- 27:54Speaker 1: effect of the lobotomy. The convulsions were so violent that
- 27:58Speaker 1: she broke her wrist. Most disturbing however was that there
- 28:02Speaker 1: was a change in her demeanor. Reportedly for some time
- 28:06Speaker 1: after that incident she become more indolent and sometimes abusive.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Alice died from pneumonia in 1941. This was five years
- 28:15Speaker 1: after her lobotomy which meant that it was impossible to
- 28:18Speaker 1: observe any long-term side effects from her surgery. In the
- 28:22Speaker 1: meantime Freeman and what received more glowing praise from the press,
- 28:26Speaker 1: the lobotomy was called a soul healing procedure. With this
- 28:30Speaker 1: endorsement from the press, Freeman and what began to carry
- 28:33Speaker 1: out more and more lobotomies. By the early 1940s the
- 28:38Speaker 1: procedure had gained worldwide popularity. This rise in popularity did
- 28:43Speaker 1: bring with it more scrutiny. People began to notice that
- 28:46Speaker 1: after a lobotomy the patient would appear to be altered
- 28:49Speaker 1: and not in a good way. They appeared to lack
- 28:52Speaker 1: any sense of spontaneity, no desire to do anything unless
- 28:55Speaker 1: they were prompted by another person. They often displayed a
- 28:59Speaker 1: complete lack of initiative in starting conversations or taking any
- 29:03Speaker 1: kind of physical action. Although in many cases their mental
- 29:07Speaker 1: health problems were gone, they were left empty and lifeless,
- 29:10Speaker 1: mere shadows of who they had once been. Eventually even
- 29:14Speaker 1: Freeman had to acknowledge the side effects but remarkably he
- 29:18Speaker 1: was able to spin it. He turned it into a
- 29:20Speaker 1: marketing opportunity. He said that lobotomized patients made nice household pets.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Freeman's career flourished. By 1941 he was advertising the procedure
- 29:32Speaker 1: as being nothing more complicated than a tooth extraction and
- 29:35Speaker 1: he said that it was perfectly safe. His most famous
- 29:39Speaker 1: patient was Rosemary Kennedy. She had been secretly admitted for
- 29:43Speaker 1: a lobotomy by her father. This had been kept secret
- 29:47Speaker 1: even from her other family members. Since her youth she
- 29:51Speaker 1: displayed signs of a slight cognitive disability and as she
- 29:54Speaker 1: got older Rosemary also experienced seizures and violent outbursts. She
- 29:59Speaker 1: was a difficult child who didn't fit in well with
- 30:02Speaker 1: the extremely ambitious Kennedy family. Freeman and Watts drilled a
- 30:06Speaker 1: hole into the top of a skull under local anesthesia.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Freeman preferred local anesthesia because he could hold a conversation
- 30:14Speaker 1: with the patients whilst he observed changes in their behavior
- 30:17Speaker 1: whilst Watts sliced into their brains. During a lobotomy Rosemary
- 30:22Speaker 1: was asked to sing God Bless America whilst the connections
- 30:25Speaker 1: between her frontal lobe and the thalamus were being cut.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Tragically it appears that Freeman who was supposed to stop
- 30:31Speaker 1: Watts at the right moment hesitated for too long. There
- 30:35Speaker 1: was one final cut and Rosemary suddenly fell silent. At
- 30:39Speaker 1: that moment her personality ambitions and desires were gone forever.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Immediately after the procedure the Kennedys realized that something was
- 30:48Speaker 1: very wrong with their daughter Rosemary was completely paralyzed and silent.
- 30:53Speaker 1: It would take months of therapy before she could even
- 30:55Speaker 1: move with time she gained partial use of one arm.
- 30:59Speaker 1: She also had one leg permanently turned inwards and she
- 31:02Speaker 1: was unable to control her bodily functions. Horrified with what
- 31:06Speaker 1: had happened to their daughter Rosemary's family looked her away
- 31:09Speaker 1: in a mental institution thousands of miles away from home.
- 31:13Speaker 1: After many months in the institution and many therapy sessions
- 31:16Speaker 1: later Rosemary began to speak again sort of. Until the
- 31:20Speaker 1: end of her life she could only speak through a
- 31:22Speaker 1: mix of garbled sounds and random words. For 20 years
- 31:27Speaker 1: nobody from Rosemary's family even visited her. It was only
- 31:31Speaker 1: after her father and Joe Kennedy died from a stroke
- 31:34Speaker 1: that Rosemary's mother decided to go and see her. Despite
- 31:38Speaker 1: Rosemary's emotional bluntness she reacted with a panicked rage when
- 31:41Speaker 1: she saw her mother. Rosemary's lobotomy had reduced her mental
- 31:46Speaker 1: capabilities to the level of a two-year-old child. She required
- 31:50Speaker 1: constant care for the rest of her life. When asked
- 31:54Speaker 1: about this incident her mother reportedly said Rosemary's mind is
- 31:57Speaker 1: gone completely. This was due to an accident which I
- 32:01Speaker 1: don't really discuss. Freeman advertised the lobotomy as a precise
- 32:05Speaker 1: and simple solution. He said it could fix headaches, mood swings,
- 32:10Speaker 1: insomnia and even digestive problems. Despite what he said it
- 32:15Speaker 1: was in fact extremely risky and imprecise. Neither what no
- 32:19Speaker 1: Freeman could have any certainty about the exact kind of
- 32:22Speaker 1: damage they were causing in the patient's brain. Although as
- 32:26Speaker 1: far as their mental conditions were concerned most patients did
- 32:29Speaker 1: show some sign of improvement immediately after the surgery. Many
- 32:33Speaker 1: of them relapsed within a few months. This meant that
- 32:37Speaker 1: some of Freeman's patients were lobotomized two or three times.
- 32:41Speaker 1: In his book titled Cycle Surgery Freeman discusses cases of
- 32:45Speaker 1: lobotomies that he deemed to be his most successful which
- 32:47Speaker 1: also makes you wonder how bad the cases are that
- 32:50Speaker 1: he didn't include in the book. One case in the
- 32:53Speaker 1: book involves a woman who had struggled with depression for
- 32:56Speaker 1: four years. Freeman lobotomized on September 18, 1937. He wrote
- 33:03Speaker 1: for several days afterwards the patient was slightly confused and
- 33:06Speaker 1: was somewhat more aggressive and less self-pitying than she had
- 33:09Speaker 1: been prior to the operation. A second lobotomy was performed
- 33:13Speaker 1: on her ten days later. After this the woman could
- 33:17Speaker 1: only lie quietly in bed with her eyes closed. She
- 33:21Speaker 1: was neither sleeping nor awake responding only when spoken to.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Freeman described it as not appearing happy but no longer
- 33:28Speaker 1: moaning and whining as she had previously. Over time her
- 33:32Speaker 1: condition improved and she no longer complained of depression but
- 33:35Speaker 1: I loved ones noticed changes in her behavior. she made
- 33:39Speaker 1: plans but she was unable to follow through whenever she
- 33:43Speaker 1: planned to do chores like cooking or washing she was
- 33:46Speaker 1: unable to carry them out and she just sat in
- 33:48Speaker 1: her chair she would think about going to town but
- 33:51Speaker 1: stay home instead she dressed sloppily and often spilled food
- 33:56Speaker 1: on herself whilst cooking she often forgot to add simple
- 34:00Speaker 1: ingredients In June 1938 she suffered a generalized convulsive attack
- 34:06Speaker 1: and continued to experience these convulsions every one or two months.
- 34:11Speaker 1: The more lobotomies that he conducted the more obvious it
- 34:14Speaker 1: became that even after successful operations patients were left drastically changed.
- 34:19Speaker 1: When they weren't being prompted to do something people who
- 34:21Speaker 1: had had a lobotomy tended to just sit motionless with
- 34:24Speaker 1: their eyes closed as if they were sleeping but it
- 34:26Speaker 1: wasn't true sleep. When spoken too loudly enough they would
- 34:30Speaker 1: open their eyes and respond without the typical signs that
- 34:33Speaker 1: they were waking from a slumber. They would give no
- 34:36Speaker 1: expression of interest and after answering the patient would just
- 34:39Speaker 1: close their eyes again. Appearing once more to be in
- 34:43Speaker 1: this strange half sleep. A lot of them seemed to
- 34:46Speaker 1: take no action of their own. They had to be
- 34:50Speaker 1: told what to do at all times. If they were
- 34:53Speaker 1: given a utensil they would just hold it in their
- 34:55Speaker 1: hands until somebody told them what to do with it.
- 34:58Speaker 1: For example if they were sat at the table and
- 35:00Speaker 1: told to eat they would immediately scoop up a spoonful
- 35:03Speaker 1: of food and hold it in the air in front
- 35:05Speaker 1: of them. They would then either put it down or
- 35:08Speaker 1: when commanded put it into their mouth. It was as
- 35:11Speaker 1: if they were robots waiting for their next instruction. Some
- 35:15Speaker 1: family members and tormented by the guilt would later claim
- 35:18Speaker 1: that they'd been misled by freemen. But still the man
- 35:22Speaker 1: grew for the procedure to be carried out with this
- 35:24Speaker 1: increasing demand Freeman became frustrated with how long it took
- 35:27Speaker 1: to carry out the lobotomies. Plus many mental institutions lacked
- 35:32Speaker 1: operating theaters so patients had to be transported to a
- 35:35Speaker 1: separate facility. Then in 1945 he had a flash of
- 35:39Speaker 1: inspiration when he saw an ice pick in his kitchen
- 35:42Speaker 1: with this device in hand he invented the transorbital lobotomy.
- 35:46Speaker 1: His new method was pretty simple. Patients would be subjected
- 35:50Speaker 1: to electroshocks until they were unconscious. Then an ice pick
- 35:55Speaker 1: would be inserted through the upper eyelid into the ice
- 35:57Speaker 1: socket and hammered through the thin layer of bone at
- 36:00Speaker 1: the back of the socket up into the frontal lobe.
- 36:03Speaker 1: The pick would then be switched back and forth inside
- 36:05Speaker 1: the brain severing the connections and then it would be
- 36:08Speaker 1: repeated on the other side. The procedure took about 10
- 36:11Speaker 1: to 15 minutes and patients were reportedly sent home in
- 36:15Speaker 1: Texas shortly after it was done. Freeman conducted his first
- 36:19Speaker 1: ice pick lobotomy in 1946 and he deemed it to
- 36:22Speaker 1: be a massive success. Soon afterwards he purchased a van
- 36:26Speaker 1: which he called the Lobotomobile and he traveled around the
- 36:29Speaker 1: USA performing lobotomies all over the country. This greatly increased
- 36:34Speaker 1: the rate at which he performed lobotomies and sometimes he
- 36:37Speaker 1: would do up to a hundred in a week. This
- 36:40Speaker 1: continued for about nine years. However in 1952 the development
- 36:45Speaker 1: of effective antipsychotic medications meant that the lobotomy looked like
- 36:49Speaker 1: it would be made obsolete. Despite this advancement in medicine
- 36:53Speaker 1: Freeman remained skeptical and he continued to advocate fall lobotomies.
- 36:58Speaker 1: I mean of course he would, it was his primary
- 37:00Speaker 1: source of income. He frequently argued that these newly developed
- 37:05Speaker 1: antipsychotic medications could have or known and serious side effects
- 37:09Speaker 1: and were not safe for use, unlike the safe and
- 37:11Speaker 1: effective ice pick to the brain obviously. Even after what
- 37:15Speaker 1: had parted with him Freeman persisted in performing the operations
- 37:18Speaker 1: despite the fact that he wasn't a licensed surgeon. Over
- 37:22Speaker 1: time he started to introduce elements of showmanship to his
- 37:25Speaker 1: procedures performing the ice pick lobotomy in theaters with viewing
- 37:29Speaker 1: galleries for interested onlookers. He did stunts like performing lobotomies
- 37:34Speaker 1: on multiple people at the same time or operating on
- 37:37Speaker 1: 25 women in a single day even when a patient
- 37:39Speaker 1: died from a brain hemorrhage caused by the lobotomy. He
- 37:43Speaker 1: didn't stop and he just continued operating on the other patients.
- 37:47Speaker 1: He also started to lobotomize children. The youngest patient to
- 37:52Speaker 1: survive the ice pick lobotomy was a 12-year-old boy named
- 37:55Speaker 1: Howard Doley. He had been admitted by his stepmother and
- 37:59Speaker 1: this woman hated Howard. According to her own testimony Howard
- 38:03Speaker 1: often daydreamed. He disliked washing and sometimes he turned on
- 38:08Speaker 1: the lights when it was still bright outside. His stepmother
- 38:11Speaker 1: believed that having him lobotomized would make him behave better.
- 38:16Speaker 1: For quite some time she tried to have him diagnosed
- 38:18Speaker 1: with a mental illness but all the doctors that she
- 38:20Speaker 1: took him to just shook their heads. To them Howard
- 38:24Speaker 1: was simply a healthy 12-year-old boy who liked to get
- 38:27Speaker 1: up to mischief. Then she took him to Dr. Freeman.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Based on the information that she gave him Freeman diagnosed
- 38:34Speaker 1: with a boy with schizophrenia and he recommended a lobotomy.
- 38:38Speaker 1: At 1.30 p.m. on the 16th of September, 1960 Howard
- 38:42Speaker 1: Doley was wheeled into the operating theater, strapped to a
- 38:46Speaker 1: bed and given a series of electric shocks to render
- 38:48Speaker 1: him unconscious. That much he remembers and the rest he
- 38:52Speaker 1: says is murky. Miraculously Howard survived the operation with his
- 38:57Speaker 1: personality and text in full control of his body. This
- 39:01Speaker 1: wasn't the outcome that his stepmother wanted. She wanted him docile,
- 39:06Speaker 1: easy to control. In fact his behavior continued to get worse.
- 39:11Speaker 1: He was eventually sent to a school for children with
- 39:14Speaker 1: behavior problems. Later in life he spent time in jail
- 39:18Speaker 1: and eventually he became homeless and addicted to alcohol. In
- 39:22Speaker 1: his 50s he managed to turn his life around and
- 39:24Speaker 1: he decided to do some research into the procedure that
- 39:27Speaker 1: he'd had done on him as a child. He managed
- 39:30Speaker 1: to gain access to his medical records and found out
- 39:33Speaker 1: that his stepmother had paid Freeman $ 200 to carry out
- 39:36Speaker 1: the lobotomy. In 2007 Howard Dulley published his memoir titled
- 39:41Speaker 1: My Lobotomy. In interviews he would later say, if he
- 39:45Speaker 1: saw me you'd never know that I'd had a lobotomy.
- 39:49Speaker 1: The only thing you'd notice is that I'm very tall
- 39:51Speaker 1: and weigh about 350 pounds but I've always felt different,
- 39:55Speaker 1: wondered if something's missing from my soul. I have no
- 39:58Speaker 1: memory of the operation and I never had the courage
- 40:01Speaker 1: to ask my family about it. I'll never know what
- 40:04Speaker 1: I lost in those 10 minutes with Dr. Freeman and
- 40:07Speaker 1: his ice pick. By some miracle it didn't turn me
- 40:10Speaker 1: into a zombie, crushed my spirit, or killed me, but
- 40:14Speaker 1: it did affect me deeply. Walter Freeman's operation was supposed
- 40:18Speaker 1: to relieve suffering but in my case it did just
- 40:21Speaker 1: the opposite. Ever since my lobotomy I felt like a
- 40:24Speaker 1: freak ashamed. Freeman's career ended in 1967 when he accidentally
- 40:30Speaker 1: killed yet another patient, a housewife during a third lobotomy.
- 40:35Speaker 1: After this incident Freeman was banned from operating. Throughout his
- 40:38Speaker 1: career he performed over 3,500 lobotomies and he caused the
- 40:42Speaker 1: death of 490 people and left an unknown number of
- 40:45Speaker 1: others permanently disabled. He spent his remaining days visiting former
- 40:50Speaker 1: patients and trying to prove the positive effects of lobotomy.
- 40:54Speaker 1: Thankfully he didn't manage to change public opinion and today
- 40:57Speaker 1: lobotomy is no longer practiced, consigned to the history books
- 41:01Speaker 1: as a barbaric and misguided treatment for mental illness. So
- 41:05Speaker 1: that's the tale of Walter Freeman and the prefrontal lobotomy.
- 41:09Speaker 1: If you found this case interesting I do have another
- 41:12Speaker 1: video about a brain surgery that went very wrong. The
- 41:16Speaker 1: tale of Henry Mallison, the man who couldn't remember. I'll
- 41:20Speaker 1: put a link at the end of the recording and
- 41:22Speaker 1: in the description if you want to check that out.
- 41:25Speaker 1: It's much appreciated and it really does help me keep
- 41:27Speaker 1: making content so thank you.