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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday May. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now expected to sign tomorrow as the newest wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: J P. Chack. I need to stretch, but that's other news.
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,
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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli in parts unknown. He'll be back next week.
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado's here, Brent Reever's here, our old crew. Glad
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Speaker 1: you're with us today. As ot as continue. What's up, Logs?
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm just I'm having flashed. When
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Speaker 1: Joe starting to talk about out JP Shadowick wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: There was that comedy skit that was done years ago,
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Speaker 1: back in about the mid eighties where the guy did
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Speaker 1: did the college football skit. Did you ever see that?
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Speaker 1: You never saw talking about. I'm gonna have to show
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Speaker 1: it to you during the break because it's not not
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Speaker 1: all exactly clean. But when Joe said that you're gonna
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Speaker 1: try out for a wide receiver, I was thinking of
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Speaker 1: that skit. Yeah, So anyway, some people out there might
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Speaker 1: know what I'm thinking about. Here's what we're getting to.
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Speaker 1: When you guys see this, you're gonna go, oh wow,
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Speaker 1: oh goodness. I can't wait to see. Here's what we're
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Speaker 1: getting to of the program tonight. Nick Foles is back
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Speaker 1: at practice. Will break that down today. Todd Wash spoke
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars media and discuss his rookie pass rusher,
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's what Josh Allen's going to be, by
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Speaker 1: the way, and we'll go around the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: We'll hear about the executive director of the p A,
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Speaker 1: Tomor Smith, had some comments this week. We'll break that
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Speaker 1: down a little bit later. Let's start today though, with
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron Tuesday giving us the news that Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: was away from practice for personal reason. And obviously, you
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Speaker 1: guys know it's it's a personal situation. So you know, um,
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Speaker 1: you know our you know, thoughts and prayers that you
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Speaker 1: know with Nick and his family, and you know, he
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Speaker 1: knows like anything else that we're here from him, and
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Speaker 1: you know, the football part, we'll just figure that out.
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Speaker 1: You know, the football part was sidetracked, of course. And
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Speaker 1: when Doug Moron says thoughts and prayers, that's when you
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Speaker 1: know something is pretty serious, fairly serious, and it certainly was.
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Speaker 1: When Nick Fole's wife on Instagram later posted that she
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Speaker 1: had miscarried and that was fifteen months and awful news
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Speaker 1: for the Folest family. But through that tragedy, now Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles is back in the office. He was back in
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Speaker 1: here today. Yeah. I first of all, I mean, holy cow,
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what what Nick and his wife are
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Speaker 1: going through. Uh wow, what a traumatic time for them.
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Speaker 1: And obviously I think a lot of people's thoughts and
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Speaker 1: prayers go to them in that situation, because they're not
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Speaker 1: the only people that have had something like that happened
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Speaker 1: to them. But I think, as as a player, sometimes
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Speaker 1: when you go through some type of personal crisis or
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Speaker 1: family crisis or whatever whatever have you, going back to
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Speaker 1: work is almost kind of a a bastion of of
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Speaker 1: taking a break. It's a it's a bastion of of
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Speaker 1: health and well being sometimes because when you're when you're home,
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Speaker 1: or when you're in the environment where there has been
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Speaker 1: a tragedy or there's been something tough going on, sometimes
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Speaker 1: it's nice to go back and back to work and
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Speaker 1: take your mind off of it just for a little while,
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Speaker 1: to get that that little bit of sane. This back
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Speaker 1: so um so, I mean, I'm glad to see him back,
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you and I know we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get to this. The difference in practice from today compared
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Speaker 1: to what it was on Tuesday, Wow, what a difference.
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Speaker 1: Quite a difference. And now I did air I said
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Speaker 1: fifteen months, fifteen weeks was the time frame there. Good
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Speaker 1: to have Nick back in the building and hope all
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Speaker 1: as well moving forward for the fullest family. Now back
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Speaker 1: to that practice on Tuesday, it was a lighter feel.
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Speaker 1: They didn't stay on the field as long as they
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Speaker 1: have an O t A s um at least the
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Speaker 1: first week of O t A s It was a
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Speaker 1: much shorter practice coming off a three day weekend. Doug
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Speaker 1: Maron didn't want really overstress anybody. But that said, without
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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback out there, things looked a little bit different. Well,
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Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot different, and and I
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Speaker 1: think part of the reason is because you had you
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Speaker 1: had a lot of coaching going on on Tuesday's practice,
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Speaker 1: And I think part of that was by design, because
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Speaker 1: I think the practice tempo and the pace was backed
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Speaker 1: off significantly, and I think Doug Maron alluded to that somewhat.
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Speaker 1: Coming off of the holiday break. When you get the
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Speaker 1: players back, they're coming back from all parts unknown and
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they were a little little I guess
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Speaker 1: you could say rubber legged, so to speak, coming back
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Speaker 1: from a break and uh and understandable. But the quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: that day, Alex Magoo and Tanner Lee and and Gardner
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Speaker 1: Minshew the second the rookie quarterback sixth round pick, I mean,
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Speaker 1: none of them looked particularly great and you could tell
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Speaker 1: that the tempo just wasn't there. And I think one
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Speaker 1: thing I think that you've come to see with Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles when he's out there on the field, and I
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Speaker 1: was talking to Frank Frangie about this last week, was
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Speaker 1: that when he's on the field and compared to years past,
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Speaker 1: you see much more communication going on between Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: and the players, Whereas in the past it it was
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Speaker 1: always Blake Bortles and the quarterbacks coach, like going back
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Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinator, and whereas you're seeing Nick having
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Speaker 1: conversation with the players. And what that tells me is
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Speaker 1: is two full one. It tells me that one, he's
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Speaker 1: he's got some great leadership skills because he communicates with everybody.
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Speaker 1: I think first and foremost. Number two is is that
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Speaker 1: he has a very strong asked of the offense and
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Speaker 1: he's not having to go back and find out did
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Speaker 1: I do something right or did I do something wrong?
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Speaker 1: And instead he knows what he did and what knows
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Speaker 1: whether it was right or wrong. So now he's trying
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Speaker 1: to get an offensive teammate on the same page that
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Speaker 1: he is, whether it be a running back, tight end,
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Speaker 1: or wide receiver. And that's and that's good to see.
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Speaker 1: It's good to see the quarterback having conversation with the
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Speaker 1: other guys in the huddle as opposed to haven't had
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Speaker 1: that conversation with the coach. Not to say there probably
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Speaker 1: aren't conversations off the field between the coaches and the
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Speaker 1: and it happens on the field too, but the frequency
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Speaker 1: of the communication of the quarterback and the players needs
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Speaker 1: to happen a lot. I mean, when you when you
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Speaker 1: watched Tom Brady in practice going at Foxboro, and look,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Nick Foles is Tom Brady, because I
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Speaker 1: mean Tom Grady is the greatest of all time. There's
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Speaker 1: no comparison Tom. Part of the reason why two years
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Speaker 1: ago up did you ever see Tom Brady communic ate
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Speaker 1: a lot with his position, coach or Josh McDaniel. You
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Speaker 1: saw quite a bit. But after the play, but during
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Speaker 1: eleven and eleven, he's the coach on the field, stay
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Speaker 1: on the sideline. Yeah, he's talking to the guys in
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Speaker 1: the huddle, the guys that he's working with, the guys
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Speaker 1: that he has to throw the football too. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's the thing that really stuck with me with
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. And then to turn around and see Nick
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Speaker 1: falls and it's early still, but that's also a good sign.
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Speaker 1: But to see him communicating with his teammates the really
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Speaker 1: good sign of the backup quarterbacks on this roster. What
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Speaker 1: stands out so far positively, somebody needs to rise up
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Speaker 1: and and and clearly be the number two because you
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Speaker 1: kind of have three different guys right now. I like
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Speaker 1: the way that Minshew the second the rookie is is.
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Speaker 1: I like his tempo. I like his anticipation for a
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Speaker 1: rookie coming in. It seems like he's got a pretty
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Speaker 1: good graph. I wouldn't say a strong grasp of the offense,
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Speaker 1: because no rookie does Tanner Lee has. When you draw
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Speaker 1: up a quarterback, okay, you're gonna say we're gonna make
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Speaker 1: him six four, we're gonna make him two five pounds,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna give him a strong arm, and he's gonna
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Speaker 1: be able to make all the throws, and that's what
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Speaker 1: kind of what you got in Tanner Lee. But sometimes
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Speaker 1: you just don't know if the ball is going to
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Speaker 1: be accurate or if the ball is gonna be in
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Speaker 1: the right zip code sometimes, so so you kind of
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Speaker 1: got a little bit of both with those two guys.
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Speaker 1: And and Alex mgoo is is a guy that can run,
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Speaker 1: and you watch him running practice, he's uh he In fact,
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Speaker 1: if if you were looking for a backup for a
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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles type of quarterback or a Tyrod Taylor type
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Speaker 1: of quarterback, quarterback that likes to move, uh, that has
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Speaker 1: the ability to move, and in fact, uh the quarterback
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Speaker 1: in Seattle um Russell Wilson. Alex McGoo is is a
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Speaker 1: per back up to old Russell Wilson type, and he
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Speaker 1: was there because Mago likes to run, and so any
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Speaker 1: type of quarterback that has pretty good mobilities, it's kind
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Speaker 1: of in that same mold of Goose. So you kind
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Speaker 1: of got a little bit of everything when you're looking
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Speaker 1: at the other three quarterbacks besides Nick Foles, that'll obviously
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Speaker 1: shake out closer to the season training camp and all that.
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Speaker 1: But let me say this, even though that the tempo
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Speaker 1: was a little bit off on Tuesday, and I think
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Speaker 1: part of it was that Nick Foles was not there,
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Speaker 1: let's not say that Nick Foles came back today and
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Speaker 1: was absolutely perfect or impeccable. There were interceptions, a couple
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Speaker 1: of interceptions today and did a lot of red zones.
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Speaker 1: Couple of me were in the red zone. But look,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, that's what the all seasons for. And he's
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Speaker 1: challenging guys. But there are some thros jp that he
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Speaker 1: makes that when you see it, he's thrown it in
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Speaker 1: the tight windows. He's throwing it on time, and the
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Speaker 1: receiver doesn't have to do anything but put his hands
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Speaker 1: up at times and every now and again when he misses,
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Speaker 1: sometimes he misses high. And for the most part, Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles has been been really fun to watch. You are
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Speaker 1: not the only one that has noticed that, by the way,
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Speaker 1: A j Boy, a Jaguar's cornerback, has noticed what Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles brings to this offense. Um. You know, I was
10:11
Speaker 1: talking to some of the younger guys, some of the
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Speaker 1: d ds last week. I was even talking about coaches
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Speaker 1: frustrating because you have a really good quarterback, and you
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Speaker 1: know there's certain players that she was making past years,
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Speaker 1: and just you're there even when you make the right
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Speaker 1: breaks and everything. But the ball is the only where
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Speaker 1: the receiver could catch it. And you can see that
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Speaker 1: he's a leader out there. The way he carries his offense.
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Speaker 1: You know, the tempo of the offense is different. They're
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Speaker 1: more beat, they're attacking us, and you know they're gonna
10:34
Speaker 1: give us looks. For example, I think there was a
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Speaker 1: d ball, Uh they I broke up, but you could tell,
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Speaker 1: like the way he was pumping the post safety to
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Speaker 1: get him up the failing and then come back and
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Speaker 1: read his reads. We wasn't seeing that a lot, and
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Speaker 1: you know that's something gonna make us better going into
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Speaker 1: the season. And a j Boy earlier this week discussing
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Speaker 1: what Fools brings to that offense and how different it
10:54
Speaker 1: looks for a guy having a cover receivers too. I
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Speaker 1: mean the balls in a certain places there pretty much
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Speaker 1: every time. Well, I think also having a quarterback that
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Speaker 1: is better than what you had from last year. I
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Speaker 1: think it makes the defensive backs better too, because it
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Speaker 1: makes them stay on their game and they know, like
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Speaker 1: Aga was talking about, right, there that the ball is
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Speaker 1: the ball placement is going to be better, the accuracy
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Speaker 1: is gonna be better. So it challenges the defense to
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Speaker 1: be better themselves, and that's a good thing. The better,
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Speaker 1: the better play that you have in practice, then the
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Speaker 1: better play you're gonna have all around as an entire team.
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Speaker 1: And uh, greatness kind of. I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: greatness makes greatness, but look, when you have great practices,
11:37
Speaker 1: great practices lead to better games. Sometimes I've seen practices
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Speaker 1: that weren't so great and they didn't lead to great performances.
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Speaker 1: But it's not very often that you see where you
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Speaker 1: have really strong practices that don't lead to strong performances
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Speaker 1: in games. Usually one has to happen before the other. That. Um,
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Speaker 1: good to have Nick Foles back out there today. Um,
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Speaker 1: there are a few players today and missing it is voluntary.
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Speaker 1: We know this slogs. But today you know he can
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Speaker 1: got Quay out there again. Telvin Smith obviously, Leonard Burnette
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Speaker 1: not there today. He's communicated with the team. Markis Lee out,
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Speaker 1: d D Westbrook, Jalen Ramsey. There's your list of guys
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Speaker 1: not here today if you if you're interested. Yeah, and uh,
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Speaker 1: there were some guys that didn't practice because of injury,
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Speaker 1: and I don't mean, I don't know if there's that
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Speaker 1: changes daily but changes all the time. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean it was look at the guys are getting working.
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Speaker 1: And it was also good to see Cam Robinson out
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Speaker 1: at practice this week kind of walking around and it
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Speaker 1: wasn't practicing, but it was good just to see him
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Speaker 1: the first week that they had the O T A
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Speaker 1: don't I don't even think he was out there, So
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Speaker 1: it's good see him and he looks good. I mean
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Speaker 1: he looks big. Usually when of guys coming back from
12:48
Speaker 1: some type of a knee, which in his case it
12:51
Speaker 1: was the A C L, you have some type of
12:54
Speaker 1: atrophy of a calf and when you can watch a
12:57
Speaker 1: guy or look at a guy from behind and you
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Speaker 1: look at his two calves and you go, oh, that's
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Speaker 1: the leg that he had, the A C meaning well,
13:05
Speaker 1: I mean the muscle is not as big as what
13:07
Speaker 1: it is or what it was. So so for example,
13:10
Speaker 1: if a guy had to write a C L, the
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Speaker 1: right calf typically will be smaller than the left calf,
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Speaker 1: and you can look at a guy and go, Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's the leg that he had. The A C l
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Speaker 1: and when you stand behind Cam you really can't tell
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Speaker 1: which calf looks to have any atrophy whatsoever. So I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that can be a good sign
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Speaker 1: or not. I don't know, but it's just something that's
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Speaker 1: good to see and that he looks big, he looks strong,
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Speaker 1: looks healthy, and uh, at some point, I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be out there doing individual drills and then
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Speaker 1: gradually progressed to the point where he starts to do more.
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Speaker 1: And maybe that's not even until you get to training camp. Yeah,
13:43
Speaker 1: you don't want to rush that at all. But also
13:46
Speaker 1: because of the early nature in which he sustained the injury,
13:49
Speaker 1: he may end up and I would not be surprised
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Speaker 1: that he may end up starting to do some individual
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Speaker 1: drills at some point, whether it be in mini camp
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Speaker 1: or O T A S or maybe maybe not, who knows.
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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the best part. There's no need to
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Speaker 1: rush him. You know his his date. What you want
14:08
Speaker 1: your target date of getting him ready and getting Marquis
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Speaker 1: Lee ready as well is opening day if that works
14:17
Speaker 1: for them individually, but in opening days typically what you're
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Speaker 1: worried about, all right, we'll come back in a moment,
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Speaker 1: we'll discuss Josh Allen. He hasn't been on the field.
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Speaker 1: He had one o t a practice and then he's
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Speaker 1: so obviously we gotta take advantage of it. He was.
19:03
Speaker 1: He did a real nice job of dropping in college. Um,
19:07
Speaker 1: I can't honestly say, being a D line coach that
19:09
Speaker 1: I get too excited about it. You know, fifteen sack
19:12
Speaker 1: guy dropping into coverage. Um, you know, so you know,
19:16
Speaker 1: hopefully you won't see too that much of that. It's
19:19
Speaker 1: Todd wash defensive coordinator today before O t a practice
19:23
Speaker 1: number five And can we clarify he said a fifteen
19:27
Speaker 1: SAT guy dropping into coverage. I believe he had seventeen.
19:30
Speaker 1: It's seventeen and a half. But yes, that's fun. Yeah, anyway,
19:35
Speaker 1: j P shattered, he will drop into coverage. That part
19:38
Speaker 1: of part of having guys that have the ability to
19:43
Speaker 1: do both liking gowk Way and like Josh Allen, is
19:46
Speaker 1: that you can do some creative things as far as
19:49
Speaker 1: people think, Okay, what do you mean by that? I
19:52
Speaker 1: think of the Pittsburgh Steelers when sometimes when they have
19:55
Speaker 1: lined up when they've had their great defenses of the past,
19:58
Speaker 1: that they would send different eyes cornerback safeties and then
20:02
Speaker 1: drop some of the linebackers that they had in the coverage.
20:06
Speaker 1: Troy Paula Mala thinking how many times he would come
20:09
Speaker 1: in blitzing in the line of scrimmage. Well, when you
20:11
Speaker 1: do that, you've got to drop somebody. So if Josh
20:13
Speaker 1: Allen and Yannike and Gokua have the ability to do both,
20:17
Speaker 1: it gives you, as a defensive coordinator a lot of
20:19
Speaker 1: options to be able to dial up different blitzes, to
20:22
Speaker 1: send guys from different places that maybe normally people aren't
20:26
Speaker 1: normally accustomed to seeing and surprise an offensive coordinator or
20:29
Speaker 1: surprise the scheme. But Josh Allen, make no mistake about it.
20:32
Speaker 1: When you have a player that has fifteen or seventeen
20:36
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, whatever you want to say it is,
20:39
Speaker 1: you definitely want that player rushing the pastor because that
20:41
Speaker 1: is his strength. And then that's what I expect him
20:44
Speaker 1: to do a lot of Let's go to the phone line. Now,
20:47
Speaker 1: welcome in the third member of our happy our team.
20:50
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli is in an airport somewhere, Tony, how are you.
20:55
Speaker 1: I'm good. There's nothing better than offensive tackle and they're
20:58
Speaker 1: a great pass us and dropping the cup. It's like, oh, perfect,
21:03
Speaker 1: take one of your best players and put him into
21:05
Speaker 1: something that he's not as good as, uh as rushing
21:08
Speaker 1: the passer. It was always a welcome sight for any
21:10
Speaker 1: offensive linement. Now. We we used to have a coach
21:13
Speaker 1: when I was in New York and I'm not gonna
21:15
Speaker 1: say his name. I'll protect protect him for now. But
21:19
Speaker 1: occasionally we would have guys that are were our best
21:21
Speaker 1: pass rushers and we would be dropping in the coverage
21:24
Speaker 1: and I used to sit there and go, wait a minute,
21:25
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. I mean, aren't we supposed to have
21:28
Speaker 1: put players in the position to do what they do best? Right?
21:32
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that what a coach is supposed to do.
21:34
Speaker 1: And we would have certain guys rushing because they thought
21:37
Speaker 1: that they could line up a safety on the edge
21:39
Speaker 1: Tony and speed rush him around and he could beat
21:42
Speaker 1: a tackle just because he was faster than a defensive end.
21:45
Speaker 1: But let's not forget the safety doesn't have the same
21:48
Speaker 1: strength or the ability to bend the corner. So if
21:51
Speaker 1: the tackle gets one hand on that safety, the game's
21:54
Speaker 1: over for him anyway. I mean, a safety rushing Jeff
21:58
Speaker 1: is a waste of time. I mean us, it's gonna
22:00
Speaker 1: be a complete surprise. And they time the snap perfectly.
22:04
Speaker 1: There's an offensive lignment. If you do your homework, you
22:06
Speaker 1: can tell you you see the front, you understand when
22:08
Speaker 1: someone's dropping, what they're doing, and if you see a
22:11
Speaker 1: safety coming. It's like a playoff because I don't care
22:14
Speaker 1: how fast you are. If you don't have power you
22:15
Speaker 1: and you don't know how to ease your hands and
22:17
Speaker 1: turn the corner, it's not gonna matter. Well, the Steelers did,
22:21
Speaker 1: but he could time that snap so well, how would
22:25
Speaker 1: that different? But he because he'd becoming the A gap
22:28
Speaker 1: B gaps and he was hitting on the run and
22:31
Speaker 1: he had a great uh knack of time and that
22:34
Speaker 1: time and the snap count and would get into the
22:36
Speaker 1: gap and a lot of times they would be still
22:39
Speaker 1: rushing multiple guys and they get a free run at
22:42
Speaker 1: him at the back. Um, and he was coming from
22:45
Speaker 1: the second level. A lot of times you get confusion
22:49
Speaker 1: when you have people coming out of the sky, which
22:51
Speaker 1: means the secondary level. UM, you can get away with that.
22:55
Speaker 1: There's some effective blitzes, don't get me wrong, But if
22:58
Speaker 1: you're literally gonna drop a guy, you don't disguise it well.
23:04
Speaker 1: The speed of a safety is not going to scare
23:05
Speaker 1: much offense, most off the top. Yeah, it'll be it'll
23:09
Speaker 1: be a fun to watch. How to me how it'll
23:12
Speaker 1: be fun to watch or exciting to watch or curious
23:15
Speaker 1: to watch? Exactly? How are they going to divvy up
23:17
Speaker 1: the snaps and based defensive down between Gowckway and Josh Allen,
23:21
Speaker 1: Because as Todd Walsh was staying there, they both play
23:23
Speaker 1: the same position. But when you get the sub personnel,
23:26
Speaker 1: which sub personnel can mean your nickel package, you're dying package. Uh.
23:31
Speaker 1: And then and in some cases you could have Josh
23:33
Speaker 1: Allen in as a defensive end in a base package
23:37
Speaker 1: with class Campbell kicking into the inside. But how will
23:40
Speaker 1: they juggle that balance of sharing the reps of the
23:44
Speaker 1: base package between in gowck Way and Josh Allen. And
23:49
Speaker 1: because you know Josh Allen physically, you would think would
23:52
Speaker 1: be stronger and more gifted against the run, just because
23:55
Speaker 1: he's much bigger than in gowk Way is. But at
23:58
Speaker 1: the same token, it's hard to take a guy off
24:01
Speaker 1: of the field like in Gockway that can change a
24:03
Speaker 1: game with one playing because of his ability to rush
24:06
Speaker 1: the passer and take the ball away from the quarterback. So, um,
24:10
Speaker 1: that will be something to watch for certainly this year. Hey, Jeff,
24:14
Speaker 1: you might have some fights in the sidelines if you
24:15
Speaker 1: try to keep h. Gockway on the side off the
24:18
Speaker 1: field too much. There's no doubt that's a guy who
24:21
Speaker 1: likes to play every single well. And we said last year, Tony,
24:25
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he took a big step forward and
24:27
Speaker 1: how he played the game in a physical fashion against
24:30
Speaker 1: the run, he got better against the run last year.
24:32
Speaker 1: The first year that he was in the league, he
24:35
Speaker 1: wasn't very good against the run. The second year he
24:37
Speaker 1: got a little bit better. And I thought last year
24:39
Speaker 1: he took a significant step forward. And we're talking about
24:41
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't weigh a ton now. I mean
24:43
Speaker 1: he's what to to forty ish When I see two forties,
24:47
Speaker 1: that could be in the two thirties and it might
24:49
Speaker 1: be barely over he's listed at and I don't think.
24:53
Speaker 1: I don't think he weighs that much. But he plays
24:55
Speaker 1: the game at a high level. So look, it doesn't
24:57
Speaker 1: matter what he weighs. Tony. What do you think von
24:58
Speaker 1: Miller made weighs? Are you with us? I think von
25:05
Speaker 1: Miller is probably five to fifty Jeff, but he plays
25:09
Speaker 1: a completely different position to stand up outside backer. He's
25:13
Speaker 1: going he's in a two point stand. Uh. He plays
25:17
Speaker 1: more to a two three four and it's really a
25:21
Speaker 1: pass rush specialist and he's not a hand in the
25:23
Speaker 1: ground defensive van. It's and they're interesting that our perception
25:29
Speaker 1: of von Miller is tot five right, he's listed at Okay,
25:33
Speaker 1: So I asked and gokay. The other day I was
25:35
Speaker 1: asking him when he was here for the O t
25:37
Speaker 1: A practice. I said, Hey, what are you weighing? And
25:40
Speaker 1: he gave me, you know, ballpark of what he weighed,
25:42
Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter what he said. But then
25:45
Speaker 1: we got into the conversation about von Miller and he
25:47
Speaker 1: said that he's talked a couple of different times with
25:50
Speaker 1: von Miller, and so we got into that conversation about
25:53
Speaker 1: wait and what's an effective weight, and he was telling
25:55
Speaker 1: me that von Miller told him that he plays at
25:59
Speaker 1: two thirty five. Yeah, which I wouldn't think that von
26:04
Speaker 1: Miller is too thirty five, because I mean, he plays
26:06
Speaker 1: the game so big and plays it so well that
26:09
Speaker 1: you would think that he weighs more. But Hey, look,
26:12
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you weigh as long as you
26:14
Speaker 1: can be effective. But Jeff Ti, I mean, and god
26:17
Speaker 1: Points is very good past or ship, but I don't
26:19
Speaker 1: think he has the first step that von Miller does.
26:22
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what makes von Miller so good, and
26:25
Speaker 1: he has it and and he has and the other
26:28
Speaker 1: thing that makes von Miller so exceptional and god Poin
26:32
Speaker 1: is good at this, but I don't think he's great
26:33
Speaker 1: at it at this point. I mean, I think he's
26:35
Speaker 1: growing in the player. But that inside spin moves stress
26:40
Speaker 1: as an offensive linement so much that if you overplay
26:42
Speaker 1: his speed at all, he's gonna hit you with that
26:45
Speaker 1: inside spin molls and kill you. Tony. Where are you?
26:51
Speaker 1: I'm in an airport of parts unknown right now. Oh,
26:54
Speaker 1: an undisclosed location, undisclosed location. I might be doing some
26:58
Speaker 1: secret work. I don't want to go to Okay, Well, well,
27:00
Speaker 1: we certainly don't want to broadcast and everywhere, which we
27:03
Speaker 1: would if that was the case. Are you gonna be
27:05
Speaker 1: back next week though? Right? Yeah, we're gonna be there. Uh,
27:09
Speaker 1: just me, the two of us, JP. It's uh, some
27:11
Speaker 1: of the best shows we have all years. When Jeff's
27:13
Speaker 1: on vacation. They aren't bad. Good that. I'm glad you're
27:18
Speaker 1: having a great show. That's a good thing. Tony's here
27:22
Speaker 1: for one next week. That's good. We'll work here for
27:25
Speaker 1: one next week. Tony j shot. I've been there for
27:28
Speaker 1: like a month straight. I'm glad. We're glad to have
27:32
Speaker 1: you here. Anytime. We can get your busy and find
27:35
Speaker 1: us a day. In fact, I think you've missed the
27:37
Speaker 1: show in March, madness. Since I've missed the show, is that? Yeah?
27:42
Speaker 1: I did miss one and marks madness. Tony, you'll be
27:45
Speaker 1: You'll be pleasantly surprised. JP will. We'll welcome you with
27:49
Speaker 1: big smiles. I'll believe that when I see it. Uh, Tony,
27:54
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. I appreciate Tony was sell
27:57
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33:18
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33:41
Speaker 1: the team now connect the dots on that one. I
33:43
Speaker 1: don't think it's very very much of a mystery to
33:45
Speaker 1: see what happened with Blara Brown and me, because you're
33:47
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33:51
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at the very least we're thinking that he
33:55
Speaker 1: could be a significant special teams contributor, and then all
33:58
Speaker 1: of a sudden was out the door, and we're talking
34:01
Speaker 1: about at a position in which the Jaguars were scrambling
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Speaker 1: a little bit because they just had somebody tell him
34:07
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna play football in twenty and Telvin Smith.
34:11
Speaker 1: So when they released Blair Brown, I kind of scratched
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Speaker 1: my head and went, something's up, something's up with that.
34:18
Speaker 1: And there there it is. There, there's your something's up
34:22
Speaker 1: and that that incident in April which led to his
34:26
Speaker 1: arrest or release and then subsequent arrest. There you go,
34:31
Speaker 1: So connect the dots you have at the news on
34:34
Speaker 1: Blair Brown. Other reports today that the Jaguars are close
34:38
Speaker 1: to signing Terrell Prior, state quarterback now state quarterback who
34:44
Speaker 1: was with the Raiders and played quarterback with them, then
34:47
Speaker 1: made the conversion to wide receiver. Was actually had a
34:50
Speaker 1: pretty good, uh, pretty good time of it at the
34:53
Speaker 1: wide receiver position with the Cleveland Brown signed a free
34:55
Speaker 1: agent contract with the Washington Redskins that didn't go so
34:58
Speaker 1: well and and now he's probably looking for some type
35:03
Speaker 1: of a minimum salary type of deal, I'm sure, because
35:08
Speaker 1: he hasn't done much. He's had some injuries to contend with,
35:11
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the big reasons why
35:13
Speaker 1: that his production was down. And he's still available as
35:16
Speaker 1: a free agent, but he's got size. And if you
35:19
Speaker 1: go back to when we were talking to South pal
35:23
Speaker 1: South Palestonio who talked extensively about what he would like
35:27
Speaker 1: to surround Nick Foles with if he were the general manager.
35:31
Speaker 1: Remember the first thing he said, he needs big targets.
35:35
Speaker 1: This is a big target. He's six ft four, this
35:38
Speaker 1: is a big target. Big targets. So uh And as
35:42
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, when you have an offense that
35:44
Speaker 1: doesn't have very many proven weapons, you bring every and
35:46
Speaker 1: any and every everything in to try to find more.
35:49
Speaker 1: It hasn't happened yet. There's nothing official from the team,
35:51
Speaker 1: and that there were reports today saying that the Jaguars
35:54
Speaker 1: were close. They worked him out yesterday. Um, I think
35:57
Speaker 1: the team would like to get it done, but it's
35:59
Speaker 1: not a fish. There's nothing. If it's gonna get done,
36:01
Speaker 1: it will happen today because you want to be able
36:04
Speaker 1: to get him out on the field as soon as
36:06
Speaker 1: possible to see what he's got. Absolutely, you know, you've
36:09
Speaker 1: only got what is it, how many OT days remaining
36:12
Speaker 1: in number six coming up tomorrow, so four more you've
36:16
Speaker 1: got half of your O t A days in mini
36:18
Speaker 1: camp to be able to find out what he's got, So, yeah,
36:20
Speaker 1: you don't want to mess around. Where would he fit
36:22
Speaker 1: into this wide receiver group right now, Big Tart, is
36:25
Speaker 1: he come in and compete? See where he's at. He
36:29
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I wouldn't even put him at any kind
36:31
Speaker 1: of ranking whatsoever, but I would I would say this,
36:34
Speaker 1: and that he's a big target who who's got some
36:37
Speaker 1: catch radius, who's had some success in the National Football League,
36:42
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars are looking for weapons, and they're looking
36:45
Speaker 1: for guys that have some catch radius and some side
36:47
Speaker 1: because that's what you know what Nick Foles apparently likes
36:50
Speaker 1: to have. I mean, Chris Connelly kind of fits that
36:52
Speaker 1: mold DJ Chart fits that mold D. D. Westbrook not
36:56
Speaker 1: so much, but he's coming off a very successful year.
36:59
Speaker 1: Marquise Lee is gonna be a good target. It's because
37:01
Speaker 1: he gets open, he gets separations to be healthy. Look,
37:05
Speaker 1: the more, the more of the merrier. And here's here's
37:07
Speaker 1: the other thing. I don't know how much he can
37:10
Speaker 1: contribute on special teams, but he's got the size right
37:14
Speaker 1: big Yeah, So we'll see. What do you think of
37:19
Speaker 1: the tight ends so far? Josh Holliver, Jeff Swam I'm
37:22
Speaker 1: gonna chat with Jeff Swain tomorrow after practice. You'll hear
37:25
Speaker 1: that on Jaguars dot com. How do you say his
37:27
Speaker 1: last name swam swam? Okay, I just want to make
37:30
Speaker 1: sure you said it's like I was thinking that it was,
37:32
Speaker 1: because I mean, all the new guys, you want to
37:34
Speaker 1: make sure that you pronounced their names right. Jeff has
37:36
Speaker 1: pronounced Jeff. Yes, you should know that it's not Jeff. No,
37:40
Speaker 1: it's not Jeff Jeff. Yeah. But Swim is uh, it's
37:44
Speaker 1: kind of a range e tight end. I like. I
37:46
Speaker 1: like watching him and I think that, uh, the four
37:50
Speaker 1: tight ends that are currently on the roster I think
37:52
Speaker 1: are gonna be or be okay and okay, I think
37:56
Speaker 1: is uh, we'll be good enough because and what I'm
37:59
Speaker 1: saying there, I'm talking about O'Shaughnessy Koyak, Swam and Josh Oliver,
38:04
Speaker 1: the rookie draft pick from San Jose stated, I think
38:06
Speaker 1: those are the four guys that you really look to.
38:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, the other other guy that I'm kind of
38:14
Speaker 1: curious to see is he's wearing number eighty six and
38:18
Speaker 1: his name is Michael Clubial Clubial, and we don't have
38:24
Speaker 1: He's not the guy he's not on the pronunciation guy,
38:27
Speaker 1: so I apologize. He's a rookie from UCF, but he's
38:30
Speaker 1: kind of that tight ends slash fullback because he doesn't
38:35
Speaker 1: have the tight end size. He's got more fullback size,
38:38
Speaker 1: but he's not thick like a fullback. So you know what.
38:41
Speaker 1: Listening to John D. Flippo the other day, he said
38:44
Speaker 1: that was something that you might see in this offense
38:47
Speaker 1: a little more, the tight ends coming back in the
38:49
Speaker 1: backfield before snaps, and then they'd love to see some
38:52
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff that could be, that mold
38:54
Speaker 1: could be, could be. But I mean, I really like
38:58
Speaker 1: what I've seen so far Josh Oliver, but I didn't
39:02
Speaker 1: expect anything different because Josh Oliver, when you watched his
39:06
Speaker 1: college film, he's got speed, he's got sized, he's got
39:09
Speaker 1: great hands, and so he's showing you all about that
39:13
Speaker 1: out there and what Doug Roan calls pajamas, which is
39:16
Speaker 1: the O T A S. And there's no pads. So
39:19
Speaker 1: the only thing or the area that I want to
39:21
Speaker 1: see Josh Oliver and is when the pads come on,
39:25
Speaker 1: the hitting starts, and then he needs to block to
39:29
Speaker 1: be able to stay on the field because here's the reality.
39:32
Speaker 1: If you play tight end and you can't block, you
39:36
Speaker 1: can't get on the field. And I'm not talking about
39:39
Speaker 1: just try to block. You need to block effectively. You
39:41
Speaker 1: don't have to dominate, but you have to be an
39:43
Speaker 1: effective blocker. That's the weakness with Josh Oliver. If you
39:47
Speaker 1: watch his college tape, he wasn't exactly a a super
39:51
Speaker 1: physical blocker at San Jose State and doesn't get any
39:55
Speaker 1: easier to go from San Jose State to playing at
39:58
Speaker 1: this level. Well, they needed him run down the field
40:00
Speaker 1: there too. I mean he was like the only option
40:02
Speaker 1: they needed a block too, and it was needed a
40:05
Speaker 1: lot of things at San Jose at times. At times JP,
40:08
Speaker 1: I'll draw this comparison. When you would watch in Gowquay
40:12
Speaker 1: at Maryland play the run, there were times that it
40:16
Speaker 1: was not very impressive and borderline kind of embarrassing. When
40:24
Speaker 1: you watch Josh Oliver block at San Jose State, there
40:28
Speaker 1: were times that looked not that impressive and at times
40:33
Speaker 1: bordering on embarrassing. It can't improve, though, And the reason
40:38
Speaker 1: I bring up that comparison is because where have we
40:41
Speaker 1: seen in Gowckway go in his three years as a pro.
40:45
Speaker 1: We went from being not very good to being a
40:48
Speaker 1: little bit better to being pretty good last year. So
40:51
Speaker 1: if if Josh Oliver can make the same progression, because
40:55
Speaker 1: some people believe that if the dog doesn't have a bite,
40:58
Speaker 1: he'll never he'll never or learned to bite, you know
41:01
Speaker 1: what I mean, because some you never heard that turn,
41:03
Speaker 1: I've heard that kind of like it. Sometimes people say
41:07
Speaker 1: you can't teach a dog to bite. Well, clearly if
41:11
Speaker 1: you look at in Gockway, and I'm not saying that
41:13
Speaker 1: he wouldn't bite, because at Maryland there were times that
41:16
Speaker 1: he did against the run. But you can teach a
41:18
Speaker 1: guy to block, and you can make him an effective blocker,
41:21
Speaker 1: and at the at the very least you got to
41:23
Speaker 1: make him a willing blocker. So hopefully the progression will
41:27
Speaker 1: happen for him. Because if you want all the matchups
41:30
Speaker 1: that you look for when you have a tight end
41:32
Speaker 1: on the field, and I'm talking about the mismatches of
41:35
Speaker 1: having a tie it end against the linebacker instead of
41:37
Speaker 1: a safety. Because for example, when you when the when
41:41
Speaker 1: the Jaguars faced the New England Patriots, they put to
41:45
Speaker 1: Shaun Gibson on Gronkowski because Gronk is a great wide receiver,
41:51
Speaker 1: and is it a mismatch of Patriots decided to run
41:54
Speaker 1: the ball in Gronkowski is blocking to Shaun Gibson. Yes,
41:57
Speaker 1: but it's is it a mismatch for or the Patriots
42:01
Speaker 1: when Shaun Gibson is covering ground? I mean, that's kind
42:04
Speaker 1: of an even deal right there. You know. So you're
42:06
Speaker 1: always looking for the best mismatch, and the best mismatch
42:08
Speaker 1: you can get with the tight end is one of
42:10
Speaker 1: defense believes that that tight end is first and foremost
42:14
Speaker 1: legitimate blocker in the running game and secondly a wide receiver.
42:18
Speaker 1: So they always concerned themselves with him and his ability
42:21
Speaker 1: as a blocker, and then secondly with his ability as
42:23
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. So if you're gonna get that focus
42:25
Speaker 1: on the first part, then you get two mispatches in
42:27
Speaker 1: the second part. Let's come back. We're gonna delve into
42:31
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42:37
Speaker 1: Is it already going? What could happen in the year
42:39
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42:41
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42:44
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42:47
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42:51
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42:54
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42:56
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Speaker 1: everything like that. From the offseason approaching, Uh, I got
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Speaker 1: a trainer with me. Now he works on me every day. Um, besides,
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Speaker 1: I was just working out training, training with other guys. Uh.
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Speaker 1: that's been kind of tough with that, getting married, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm learning how much of a job it is,
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Speaker 1: you know, with mayor. So it's just that helps me
47:03
Speaker 1: out with my patience and everything. So it was a
47:05
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, but I'm grateful for It's a j
47:09
Speaker 1: boy earlier this week discussing his off season, what's been
47:13
Speaker 1: happening so far? You've been a busy man, yes, and
47:16
Speaker 1: he's here for Chiers. Last year he was not around
47:18
Speaker 1: for his father was was sick and helped him through
47:22
Speaker 1: that and father's well now, which is great news. So
47:25
Speaker 1: a J boy back in the fold this offseason. Good
47:28
Speaker 1: to see him around here. Good player. I wanted. I'd
47:30
Speaker 1: like to see him go back, which is I don't
47:33
Speaker 1: want to say. Look, two years ago, he was fantastic.
47:37
Speaker 1: There was the best corner duo in the league. Easy,
47:39
Speaker 1: well you could you could make you could have made
47:40
Speaker 1: the argument two years ago that he was better than Jalen. Seriously,
47:45
Speaker 1: the rating wise, he was better than jail And two
47:48
Speaker 1: years ago, which him and jail And were right there
47:50
Speaker 1: at you know, the top cornerbacks in the league rating wise,
47:54
Speaker 1: passer rating against, they were clearly one and two and
47:57
Speaker 1: Jalen was number two to a J. So last year
48:01
Speaker 1: I thought A J's game took a step back, which
48:04
Speaker 1: I didn't expect him to play at that level, that
48:06
Speaker 1: where he was at two years ago, but you wanted
48:09
Speaker 1: it to be closer, and he went from being if
48:12
Speaker 1: you look at PFFS rankings, you know he was one
48:14
Speaker 1: to one two somewhere all the way throughouteen he was
48:18
Speaker 1: in the twenties. That's a pretty significant step back. He
48:22
Speaker 1: was still pretty good, but he can be better than
48:24
Speaker 1: what he was at SOD be nice to see him
48:26
Speaker 1: back at that level. And for a guy who really
48:29
Speaker 1: who's undrafted when he came in the league. Two of
48:33
Speaker 1: the better corners in the league, Chris Harris, I believe,
48:37
Speaker 1: was he undrafted two of the Denver Broncos and he
48:39
Speaker 1: was a late round pick or something like that, I believe.
48:41
Speaker 1: But you're talking about two of the best corner corners
48:43
Speaker 1: in the league that we're not highly drafted, like a
48:47
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. But Chris Harris, congratulations to him. He just
48:51
Speaker 1: got a contract, essentially a bump and pay on his
48:57
Speaker 1: one year remaining contract he was I think it was
48:59
Speaker 1: supposed to be I will make like ten million or
49:01
Speaker 1: something like that. Now he's bumped up to fifteen or
49:03
Speaker 1: something in that ring. John Elway essentially just did that
49:08
Speaker 1: without having to do that, which I think is a
49:10
Speaker 1: pretty classy moved by the Broncos organization. Chris Harris fantastic
49:15
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49:33
Speaker 1: shall we and get to some of the biggest headlines
49:37
Speaker 1: at least of this week. I don't know if there's
49:39
Speaker 1: really news on this front yet. NFLPA Executive director j
49:43
Speaker 1: mar Smith is warning agents to plan for a work
49:46
Speaker 1: stoppage the union. Quote advising players to plan for a
49:51
Speaker 1: work stoppage of at least a year in length end quote.
49:53
Speaker 1: How could that happen? Well? For let me read an
49:57
Speaker 1: article and this is This is essentially a snippet from
50:01
Speaker 1: Lizmullen in The Sports Business Daily and reported on Tuesday morning.
50:05
Speaker 1: The nfl PA executive director to Marise Smith sent an
50:08
Speaker 1: email to all the agents of NFL players containing advice
50:11
Speaker 1: they should give to their clients. And this is what
50:14
Speaker 1: he said. Quote, with a possible work stoppage less than
50:18
Speaker 1: two years away, this is the opportune time to set
50:21
Speaker 1: up a structure and organize savings and budgeting plan with
50:23
Speaker 1: your clients end quote, And he continued, I can't stress
50:28
Speaker 1: enough the importance of having our player members in a
50:31
Speaker 1: sound financial situation should a work stoppage occur. We are
50:35
Speaker 1: advising players to plan for a work stoppage of at
50:38
Speaker 1: least a year in length. We are also encouraging, if
50:42
Speaker 1: people listen close, we are also encouraging all players to
50:46
Speaker 1: say fifty pc of their salary and bonuses and to
50:50
Speaker 1: say the entirety of their performance based pay amounts they
50:53
Speaker 1: should earn over the next two regular seasons. Okay, when
50:58
Speaker 1: I read that, I laughed. Why. Well, first and foremost,
51:06
Speaker 1: you're encouraging your NFL constituents, your players to save fifty
51:12
Speaker 1: of their salary and bonuses and then the entirety of
51:16
Speaker 1: their performance based pays amounts because there's a potential work
51:22
Speaker 1: stoppage coming soon. Well what, why aren't you encouraging your
51:28
Speaker 1: players to save more than that without a work stoppage coming.
51:33
Speaker 1: This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard the executive
51:37
Speaker 1: director of the union say since he's been in that position.
51:42
Speaker 1: So you're saying they should say this anyway? Should they
51:45
Speaker 1: should be saving more than fifty if they're expecting a
51:49
Speaker 1: work stoppage to occur, they should be preaching to his
51:53
Speaker 1: constituencies that they should be saving more than fifty of
51:57
Speaker 1: their salary if they're not acting to work stoppage, so
52:01
Speaker 1: that they can save money so that when they're done playing,
52:05
Speaker 1: they've got money that will last them the rest of
52:07
Speaker 1: their life. This is about trying to educate your players
52:14
Speaker 1: and teaching them how to save money with or without
52:16
Speaker 1: a work stoppage. And for him to say that, say
52:19
Speaker 1: fifty now because we might have a work stoppage coming,
52:23
Speaker 1: what he should be saying is, look, are a player
52:25
Speaker 1: should be saving a ton of money and we should
52:27
Speaker 1: be saving well over fifty if we are going to
52:30
Speaker 1: have a work stoppage expected. But I mean, I just
52:34
Speaker 1: think that that's embarrassing because I mean, look, let's look
52:36
Speaker 1: at the numbers. Yea, here's the the National Football League
52:40
Speaker 1: minimum salaries. Okay, these are for undrafted guys. No signing bonus.
52:45
Speaker 1: You come in the league, you get nothing, right, you're undrafted,
52:50
Speaker 1: first year minimum salary to be on an active rosters fos. Okay,
52:56
Speaker 1: so let's just think about you. You're an undrafted rookie,
53:00
Speaker 1: we have a work stoppage coming in. If you saved
53:03
Speaker 1: fifty of your after tax income, a four thousand dollars.
53:09
Speaker 1: Would you like to say fifty of that or maybe more?
53:13
Speaker 1: Probably more right, I'd like to spend something. I'd like
53:15
Speaker 1: to enjoy my time. But you after taxes, let's just
53:20
Speaker 1: say that there's three hundred thousand left. You think you
53:23
Speaker 1: could you gotta spend a hundred fifty thousand dollars in
53:26
Speaker 1: a year? Yeah? Probably not. Okay, y're two minimum five seventy.
53:31
Speaker 1: But now just guys buy different guys want to buy.
53:35
Speaker 1: These are minimums. That's fine, they can buy a house.
53:37
Speaker 1: But but also, if you're expecting the potential work stoppage,
53:40
Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you buy a house
53:42
Speaker 1: that the money that you put away you can help
53:44
Speaker 1: pay for that when there is a work stoppage. You're
53:46
Speaker 1: three minimum seven hundred twenty thousand dollars. When you're in
53:50
Speaker 1: years four through six, it's eight hundred and five thousand dollars.
53:53
Speaker 1: So you're seven through thousand dollars. When you're ten plus,
53:56
Speaker 1: which very few guys get to ten plus years, that's
53:58
Speaker 1: over a million. My point is is that the executive
54:01
Speaker 1: director encouraging players to save only fifty with a potential
54:05
Speaker 1: work stoppage coming up is embarrassing. He should be telling
54:09
Speaker 1: people to save a heck of a lot more than that,
54:10
Speaker 1: and he should be encouraging his players to save a
54:12
Speaker 1: heck of a lot more than that, whether work stoppage
54:15
Speaker 1: is coming or not. I just think it's surprising, it's
54:19
Speaker 1: almost embarrassing that he would put it at because of
54:22
Speaker 1: work stoppage is coming. Would there ever be a full
54:25
Speaker 1: year stoppage? Oh? Absolutely, would they ever. My whole point
54:30
Speaker 1: here has nothing to do with potential labor strife aside.
54:34
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the leader of the union of trying
54:38
Speaker 1: to educate his constituents into say about about saving money period.
54:43
Speaker 1: And he's trying to say that, you know, you may
54:45
Speaker 1: go two years without any money, so you better say
54:48
Speaker 1: fifty percent. Wait a minute, when when there's a lot
54:52
Speaker 1: of guys that are making so jp. If you're making
54:53
Speaker 1: let's say five million a year, okay, you're a you're
54:57
Speaker 1: a low mid level player in the nash Football League.
55:00
Speaker 1: Let's say you're making three million a year. Do you
55:04
Speaker 1: think you can get by by saving or only having
55:09
Speaker 1: three million to spend? I think I could make it.
55:12
Speaker 1: It's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. He
55:15
Speaker 1: should be encouraging players to live well below their means
55:19
Speaker 1: and saving money anyway, all right, So that point aside,
55:23
Speaker 1: and it's a valid point, I believe would they ever
55:27
Speaker 1: cancel a season when nobody wants to cancel the season
55:33
Speaker 1: if the if the if it becomes so much The
55:37
Speaker 1: owners have put out some information recently two different reporters
55:42
Speaker 1: or or avenues that have painted a bright picture that
55:48
Speaker 1: there will be some type of an extension to the
55:51
Speaker 1: current UM labor agreement that is in place, and I
55:55
Speaker 1: think Demur Smith is trying to kind of counteract that
55:59
Speaker 1: so that he takes the comfort zone away from the players,
56:03
Speaker 1: which he didn't have to talk about the saving money part.
56:07
Speaker 1: All he had to do is come out and say, look,
56:08
Speaker 1: our players need to save money because they should expect
56:12
Speaker 1: a possible work stoppage of a year or two coming soon.
56:16
Speaker 1: So saving money now is imperative. But I just don't
56:20
Speaker 1: and not so I understand why he's doing it now.
56:22
Speaker 1: His his verbiage that he used was was a joke.
56:26
Speaker 1: But I get that he's trying to counteract the complacency
56:29
Speaker 1: within his union so that they're prepared in case it
56:32
Speaker 1: does happen. And he's also trying to counteract the good
56:36
Speaker 1: feelings about where they're going, because look, it may go
56:39
Speaker 1: it may go well, and it may not go well.
56:40
Speaker 1: I would like to think that at some point, cooler
56:43
Speaker 1: heads will prevail, and I think I think it's gonna
56:47
Speaker 1: get done. Don't don't make any mistakes season by the
56:53
Speaker 1: after exactly because right now, the Collective Barney Agreement goes
56:58
Speaker 1: for this year nineteen and then twin me and there's
57:01
Speaker 1: actually there's guidelines of minimum salaries that are in place
57:05
Speaker 1: going to pass, but it can't really be instituted yet
57:10
Speaker 1: because there is no collective bargaining agreement. It spot if
57:14
Speaker 1: you sign a rookie JP, just like the Jaguar signed
57:18
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and you only have two years of a
57:20
Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement left, which is nineteen and twenty, you
57:24
Speaker 1: still put in to not just Josh Allen because he's
57:27
Speaker 1: obviously way over the minimum, but there's some guys that
57:29
Speaker 1: you picked up and you signed them in a three
57:31
Speaker 1: or four year deals. So there's guidelines that the league
57:34
Speaker 1: has given out for minimum salaries beyond twenty, which is
57:37
Speaker 1: the end of the collective bargaining agreement. So but I
57:41
Speaker 1: think that everything is going to get extended. I think
57:43
Speaker 1: there will be tweaks and adjustments to a lot of
57:46
Speaker 1: different parts of the collective bargaining agreement. But I just
57:50
Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed in the executive director of the Union
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Speaker 1: because you hear here so many stories, and I've seen
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Speaker 1: so many stories as a player and as a guy
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Speaker 1: that's been around the game for a long time, with
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Speaker 1: players walking away from the game with with next to
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Speaker 1: nothing or very little money. But here we have and
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Speaker 1: they have an executive director who I think is living
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Speaker 1: in fantasy land about how he's telling players to save money.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to be an executive directors.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like, well, I can tell you one thing, JP,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking about, say fifty of your money.
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Speaker 1: I would be talking about saving a heck of a
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Speaker 1: lot more than that, and for a lot different reasons.
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Speaker 1: And I say I said that in a jokey manner,
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Speaker 1: but this is close to It's very close to me
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Speaker 1: because I look, I've worked. I worked very hard as
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Speaker 1: a player and as a vice president Union to try
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Speaker 1: to make sure that you edc We educated our players
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Speaker 1: into learning how to save money. And that's why I'm
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Speaker 1: a big fan of teams that have the the financial
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Speaker 1: planning seminars with their rookies and with their players. And
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Speaker 1: that's why I give credit to San Francisco forty Niners.
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Speaker 1: They're always one of the last teams in the league
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Speaker 1: to sign their rookies because they want to hold the
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Speaker 1: financial planning seminars with their rookies before they signed their contracts.
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Speaker 1: And uh, and I think that's a positive thing. I
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Speaker 1: think that the league needs to do a better job
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Speaker 1: in the Union in particular, more so, needs to do
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Speaker 1: a better job of educating their players on on money
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Speaker 1: management and how to save money so that these guys
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Speaker 1: when they walk away from the game, they've got something
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Speaker 1: to take with them. All right, looks well done, Okay,
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Speaker 1: let me get off my pod. It's quite okay. It
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Speaker 1: was very informative. Thank you and thank you for your
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Speaker 1: opinion on that. We appreciate it. Coming up tomorrow, O
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Speaker 1: t A number six. Yes, the Jaguars are back in
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Speaker 1: the practice field tomorrow. Yeah. Are you sure about that? Friday? Yeah? Okay,
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Speaker 1: there was one last Friday too, well, I know that
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Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, So we'll be there tomorrow. Um.
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Speaker 1: And then of course Lionel Richie coming up Saturday at
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Speaker 1: Daily's place. Um, thanks Tony was Sally for joining us
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Speaker 1: on the phone earlier. Brent reaver Back doing the video,
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunado, our entire crew for Jeff Lockman. I'm j P. Shadrick.
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