The Scientists
Matt Chorley talks to Sir Mark Walport, Professor Linda Bauld and The Science Media Centre's Fiona Fox about going from anonymous scientists in front of a microscope to media sensations during a pandemic.
PLUS: Libby Purves and Rachel Sylvester talk Operation Red Meat, the BBC licence fee and more.
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