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Speaker 1: from house toff works dot com? Hey, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: the podcast on Josh Clark with Me. Is always this
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Speaker 1: Charles Chuck Bryant suffering from what looks like a headache.
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Speaker 1: And I just did that. Okay, that was method podcasting
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Speaker 1: and I was falling for it on a purpose. So
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Speaker 1: what's your witty intro? Because this is a fan request?
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Speaker 1: Is this super fan buddies? Yeah? Cooper Chuck? Oh was it? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Does he have migraines? Cooper? Uh? Well, we'll say his name,
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Speaker 1: Aaron Cooper. He didn't mind. He's all over the place.
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Speaker 1: He uh has been asking for this podcast for a
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Speaker 1: couple of years and I finally wrote him to day.
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Speaker 1: I was like, Merry Christmas, jerk. Yeah, can you imagine
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Speaker 1: having a migraine that's bad enough? Having a migraine in
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Speaker 1: Kansas is like a million times words and having to
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Speaker 1: listen to us make fun of it. Uh, Aaron requested this,
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Speaker 1: and we I just want to go ahead and say
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Speaker 1: Aaron has the RS, which we'll get to. He has
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Speaker 1: alternating sides that they occur on sounds pretty been having
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Speaker 1: since he was a kid, and he has his triggers
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Speaker 1: food based sometimes sugar, caffeine, water, and now, and he
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Speaker 1: has his treatment now, which is when he sees the aura,
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Speaker 1: he knows it's coming too ecceteran migraines, dark room and
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Speaker 1: water and nap for like an hour and a half.
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Speaker 1: And he says he's gotten way better at staving them off.
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Speaker 1: So that's Kopa said it would feature you, so they're
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Speaker 1: not give me my money. There's the introduction. Is it really? Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you did that because I had none? Okay, great, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. So Chuck, yes, uh, well, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about my brains. It sounds like, from what you
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Speaker 1: just described, Cooper is sadly um a pretty typical migraine
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Speaker 1: stuffer in that you have to really pay attention to
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Speaker 1: it yourself, figure out what works for you, what triggers it,
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Speaker 1: and when it's coming, and basically treat yourself because doctors
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Speaker 1: don't really have much of an idea of what migraines are. Um,
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Speaker 1: we know that they're not headaches because headaches are caused
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Speaker 1: by vaso constriction in the brain tightening of blood vessels, right,
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Speaker 1: that is right. Just Uh, they used to think that
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Speaker 1: migraines were caused by vaso dilation, just the opening of
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Speaker 1: blood vessels in the brain. That's still a common factor
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Speaker 1: in migraines. But that's not the only peace to the puzzle, right, Um,
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Speaker 1: Like you said, my migraines typically focus on one side
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Speaker 1: or the other. Um, they seem to be passed down
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Speaker 1: among families. Yeah, you're I think if one of your
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Speaker 1: parents had had my brains, you're about fifty more likely,
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Speaker 1: and if both of your parents had them, you're seventy
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Speaker 1: percent more likely. Now you were sevent in trouble. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: your parents. Have you ever had one? No, you don't
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Speaker 1: get them. No, And I seem to remember my mom
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Speaker 1: or my dad saying that they had them. But it
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Speaker 1: may have been a cluster headache. We'll get to those later.
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Speaker 1: There's there was ten times likelier that it was your
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Speaker 1: dad that said that. Then, because menton has more likely
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Speaker 1: to get cluster heady. But women are more likely to
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Speaker 1: get migraines, right, Like, Uh, eight percent of women get
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Speaker 1: migraines and six percent of men. That would make women
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Speaker 1: three times more likely. Yeah, that's in America, at least
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Speaker 1: twelve to twenty four Americans have migraines million. Right, there's
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Speaker 1: a hundred homeless people worldwide, so they can and this
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Speaker 1: this is the general overview. They can last anywhere from
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Speaker 1: a few minutes to the some reports of years without stop,
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Speaker 1: which can you imagine, now, why would you be alive still? Yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine that even an hour, it would
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Speaker 1: be horrible, but years, days, months, it's horrible. I don't
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Speaker 1: get headaches much at all, but when I do, I'm
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Speaker 1: not a happy camper. Loss of vision, vomiting tremors, stroke
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Speaker 1: like symptoms. These are what migraines can do to you, right,
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Speaker 1: and um that you hit upon something with that last one,
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Speaker 1: the stroke conditions or stroke symptoms. UM. The the migraine
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Speaker 1: has been kind of it's been taken out of the
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Speaker 1: realm of headaches and has recently been reclassified as a
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Speaker 1: neurobiological condition. And UM the stroke symptoms you talked about
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Speaker 1: some some migraines, some type of migraine. UM see sufferers
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Speaker 1: suffer from UM these stroke like symptoms, like they have
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Speaker 1: cognitive impairment, like they can't recognize words all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden like their armigo numb yeah. Um, they can't talk
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Speaker 1: correctly and when that happens, there's a migraine that coming. Right. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's are set up. Oh. Also triggers. That's a big
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Speaker 1: one too. Yeah, that's there's there's always a trigger and
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Speaker 1: they can we'll talk about the triggers in detail, but
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Speaker 1: they can vary. It's all according to the person. They're
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Speaker 1: different for everybody. Right, So here's what we know so
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Speaker 1: far as going on in the brain. Right, Um, there's
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Speaker 1: some sort of trigger, right, and we'll talk about triggers.
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Speaker 1: But let's say you, um the example used as you
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Speaker 1: didn't eat like you normally do. Yeah, you didn't get
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Speaker 1: out for lunch at noon, um, and something in that
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Speaker 1: lack of routine or changing routine sets off the NO
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Speaker 1: susceptors in the brain pain receptors the remember yeah, um.
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Speaker 1: The NO susceptors release chemicals called neuropeptides, and neuropeptides are
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Speaker 1: unique their neurotransmitters, which means that this is how one
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Speaker 1: neuron communicates with another. They create the electrochemical imp that
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Speaker 1: creates the language of the brain. Right, you know a
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Speaker 1: lot about the stuff now I do well. Version in
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Speaker 1: the brain, my friend. Yeah. But the and this is
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Speaker 1: where it relates to migraines. Neuropeptides, these proteins UM can
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Speaker 1: be a neurotransmitter or they could be a neuromodulator, and
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Speaker 1: a neuromodulator can turn the volume up or down on
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Speaker 1: the transmission of other neurotransmitters. Right. In this case, these
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Speaker 1: neuropeptides turn the volume way up on the pain receptors
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Speaker 1: in the brain, and so all of a sudden you
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Speaker 1: start to experience a headache like you've never had before
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Speaker 1: in your entire life. Yeah. Basically makes these pain sensing
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Speaker 1: cells way more sensitive than they ever would have been, right. Um.
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Speaker 1: The the neuropeptides also, for some reason relax blood vessels
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Speaker 1: in the brain, which causes the vasidilation. Um. But they
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Speaker 1: also think that this is what causes the auras. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: now the auras. We I don't think we saw what
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Speaker 1: that is. It's like a sort of a hallucinogenic visual
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Speaker 1: thing that happens. Um lights lines blurry things, and they
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Speaker 1: will or tunnel visions and they will proceed. It's a
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Speaker 1: warning sign like migraines are coming. Maybe thirty minutes maybe
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Speaker 1: and a day, but it's a coming. So that's what
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Speaker 1: ours are, right, Um. And they think that that comes
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Speaker 1: from this vasidilation in the brain, Like basically you're your
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Speaker 1: brains just doing something screwy because all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: there's a lot more blood flow and it maybe somebody's
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Speaker 1: getting pressed on, somebody's getting a lot more oxygen's overworking.
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Speaker 1: Who knows. Well. They can also cause leakage, actual leakage,
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Speaker 1: right eventually they and that makes the tissue around the
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Speaker 1: brain swell in your skull. So you have a lot
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Speaker 1: more oxygen, you have leaking blood vessels, you have these auras,
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Speaker 1: and you have in this cascade of heightened pain reception
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Speaker 1: in the brain, and there is your migraine. As far
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Speaker 1: as we understand it now, this is the most recent
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Speaker 1: thinking of what migraines are. And some guy just told
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Speaker 1: us this like thirty minutes thirty minutes ago. Hot off
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Speaker 1: the presses. Uh. And since we mentioned triggers, we should
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Speaker 1: talk about those for a second. They can depend on Uh.
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Speaker 1: It's that they're not even the same for everyone. As
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Speaker 1: Coup pointed out, they can be different things for him,
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Speaker 1: like sometimes he said, caffeine will trigger it. Sometimes a
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Speaker 1: lack of caffeine will trigger it. Right, It seems like
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Speaker 1: the one constant in migraines is that they are they
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Speaker 1: are triggered by change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: really good things. Um so like food related um some
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Speaker 1: say that caffeine, alcohol, cheese, gluten, nuts, soy msg. They
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Speaker 1: can be triggers. Um smells, strong smells, strong smells like
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Speaker 1: skraut onions, cologne. You got an elevator with somebody with
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Speaker 1: really heavy perfume, you might get off the water with
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Speaker 1: an aura happening. Yeah, and you're gonna be like, curse
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Speaker 1: you snoop dog. Right. They can be behavioral, like we said,
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Speaker 1: if you don't get enough sleep, or if you didn't
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Speaker 1: eat on time, or if you're stressed, or maybe you
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Speaker 1: just had sex or you're not having sex. Not having sex. Second,
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Speaker 1: that's a real bummer. Um. Exercise, you exercise too hard
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Speaker 1: or you don't exercise enough. So it's it's you never
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Speaker 1: can't tell. That's what makes migraines such jerks. No, and
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Speaker 1: this is we should say, like all of these are
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Speaker 1: are like the characteristics the symptoms of all of the
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Speaker 1: migraine sufferers in the world. Sure, for one person it
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Speaker 1: might be Uh, they might be Uh no sex anchovy,
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Speaker 1: um catheine just suffer. That's my Friday night dude. Right.
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Speaker 1: There's also hormones. Yeah, and that's why they think that women,
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Speaker 1: um might have more than men because of hormonal changes
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Speaker 1: that women experience that men do not. And there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of correlative evidence among up that implicate hormones in
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Speaker 1: in in migraines like UM, migraines typically start after puberty
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Speaker 1: and women right when the hormones really start kicking in
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Speaker 1: UM they are very very rare. And women after menopause,
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Speaker 1: when hormones are depleted, they actually can come about again
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Speaker 1: in post mental puzzle women with hormone replacement therapy, UM,
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Speaker 1: they can correlate with menstruation and and uh, when a
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Speaker 1: woman becomes pregnant, has been pregnant, Uh, the migraines often
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Speaker 1: subside or just go away completely. Right. So there's something
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Speaker 1: to that. Oh yeah, there's a lot to it. The
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Speaker 1: sad thing is that we have no idea what it is.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's some poor schemo out there having a
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Speaker 1: migraine right now and there's nothing anybody can do to
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Speaker 1: help him right now. Well, maybe they're the dulcet tones
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Speaker 1: of Josh Clark and his earbuds will make that go away?
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Speaker 1: You think maybe because there are environmental factors that can
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Speaker 1: make them happen, so maybe they can make them go away.
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Speaker 1: I think that the dulcet tones of my voice was
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Speaker 1: the cause of migraine, like a flashing light like remember
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Speaker 1: the Nissan pulsar. Do you remember the break light went
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Speaker 1: They actually had to slow the pattern because people were
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Speaker 1: having seizures. Apparently that is probably an urban legend, but
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Speaker 1: it's a good one that I remember from the eighties.
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Speaker 1: That sounds very much like an urban legend. Loud noises, um,
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Speaker 1: strong smells, like we said, weather pattern like rain, yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: either when it's about to come on or it's just
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Speaker 1: changed subsided, especially when it happens quickly e g. The summer,
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Speaker 1: the change in barometric pressure. I suspect has a lot
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Speaker 1: to do with that. Josh, what are the types of migraines? Well, Chuck,
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Speaker 1: there is the classic migraine. We're gonna start with the second. First,
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Speaker 1: there's the classic migraine that is preceded by an aura
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Speaker 1: of some sort. The head pain comes on and uh,
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Speaker 1: you're in big trouble. Right. There also chronic migraines, which
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Speaker 1: are arguably among the worst, be more than fifteen a month. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's basically a lot of classic a lot of classic migraines, right, um,
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Speaker 1: common migraines. This is migraine pain with no aura. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no aura. Yeah, it's this is like a burger king
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Speaker 1: of of horrible headaches, isn't it? Like however you want it? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they did say that the common migraine though, while
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Speaker 1: you may not have an aura, there might be feelings
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Speaker 1: of euphoria or cognitive problems signaling like here it's a coming, right,
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Speaker 1: which is so depressing if you think about it, like, man,
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Speaker 1: I feel great and then you think crap. Uh. There
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Speaker 1: are or I'm sorry, ocular migraines, which you get our
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Speaker 1: symptoms without the pain of the headache, and they can
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Speaker 1: just be like thirty minutes and they go away. So
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Speaker 1: I don't understand if there's no pain and involved, and
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Speaker 1: all you're getting is the hallucinogenic aura symptoms like what's
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Speaker 1: the rub I mean imagine is distracting, but right, and
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Speaker 1: this is probably a little concerning, like you're like, am
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Speaker 1: I losing my mind? I have a brain tumor It's true.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to hear from someone that suffers from ocular migraines. Actually,
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Speaker 1: I wanted a better understanding of that firsthand. Abdominal migraines
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Speaker 1: common in children, pretty awful. It's like all of the
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Speaker 1: symptoms of a migraine except for the head pain. So
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Speaker 1: you have sensitivity, a light nausea, vomiting um, screeching at
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Speaker 1: anybody who tries to talk to you, that kind of thing,
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Speaker 1: you know. The other thing Coop said is that he
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Speaker 1: very much used to experience while he still experiences the nausea,
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Speaker 1: but he said that he has gained such control over
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Speaker 1: his vomit reflex that he has not thrown up since
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Speaker 1: nine since Ghostbusters. He said, wow. Yeah, any also reference Seinfeld,
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Speaker 1: of course, because I was gonna say that black and
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Speaker 1: white cookie. That's right. H. Then there are cluster headaches,
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Speaker 1: which we mentioned that men get more often, and they
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Speaker 1: are not migraines, but they say they may be the
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Speaker 1: most painful headache of all. But you remember and Donnie Darko,
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Speaker 1: where Drew Barrymore tells everybody. There's some linguists who said
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Speaker 1: that cellar door is the most beautiful phrase in the
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Speaker 1: English language. Cluster headaches. Those two words they evoke. Do
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Speaker 1: you know what a grape shot cannonball is? What it
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Speaker 1: looks like. Okay, so I see one of those, But
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Speaker 1: they're white and squishy balls that are connected together, almost
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Speaker 1: like tumors, but they're real circular. They're spherical, right, and
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Speaker 1: they start to like kind of drip and fall off,
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Speaker 1: but they're constantly replaced. That's what comes into my mind's
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Speaker 1: eye when I hear the word, the term cluster headache. Well,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like it's that bad because it's a sudden
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Speaker 1: explosion of pain after you've gone to sleep, Like you'll
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Speaker 1: be asleep and you'll wake up with this happening very quickly,
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Speaker 1: and it's usually behind one of your eyeballs. I think
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Speaker 1: that's what my dad used to have, because he used
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Speaker 1: to talk about it's right here and he pointed his
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Speaker 1: eye and I would just laugh and say, Dad, you're
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Speaker 1: so funny. So I'm getting that only in one way
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Speaker 1: or another. The reason they call him cluster heaches is
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Speaker 1: because they occur a bunch of times over the course
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Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks. Then they'll go away, like
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Speaker 1: for a year maybe then they'll come back in clusters
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Speaker 1: in clusters over several weeks or whatever, and then go
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Speaker 1: ahead with a thunderclap headache because I've never heard of that.
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Speaker 1: Thunderclap headaches are um, very sudden, very severe. They're pretty
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Speaker 1: much cluster headache, except they don't follow the same pattern.
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Speaker 1: They just kind of come and go. They don't seem
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Speaker 1: to follow any kind of pattern really, and it's like
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Speaker 1: they're shorter. But um, if you get thunderclap headache, you
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Speaker 1: may have blood pooling in your brain and you need
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Speaker 1: to go see a doctor. Yeah, that's it's a pretty
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Speaker 1: good sign that there's something very wrong with your brain. Um,
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Speaker 1: And we should say cluster headaches and thunderclap headaches don't
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Speaker 1: tend to occurrent families, whereas my graines to look at you,
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Speaker 1: So how do you know? How do you get diagnosed
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Speaker 1: with this? Basically you go in and say I think
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Speaker 1: I have a brain tumor, and the doctor starts running
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Speaker 1: tests on you using m ryes, cat scans, spinal taps,
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Speaker 1: rule everything else. Everything else is ruled out, and they go,
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Speaker 1: I think you might have migraines. But since we can't
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Speaker 1: really explain migraines, well, I can't say for certain spinal tap.
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Speaker 1: You ever had one of this? No, well, there's no
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Speaker 1: reason that you should have, have you No, of course
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Speaker 1: not well not, of course not people have them. But
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Speaker 1: I just you know, you always laugh at spinal tap
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Speaker 1: because the band and the movie, but you don't think
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Speaker 1: about a needle going into your spine. That's what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: They're tapping your spine like you tap a maple tree
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Speaker 1: for syrup. And it's a big it's a big, long,
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Speaker 1: like pretty heavy gauge. It's not like a tiny one.
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Speaker 1: It's big. I'd need more than a local anist at
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Speaker 1: it for that. My friend knock me out completely. I
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Speaker 1: don't know that they can because they probably have to
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Speaker 1: be um cognizant and aware and in control of your
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Speaker 1: body so you don't move no, thank you. Uh. Some
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Speaker 1: weird symptoms we talked about nausea and vomiting and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that. You can also fart a lot. I've saw
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Speaker 1: that flatulence problem. Flatulence a lot. You can be really thirsty,
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Speaker 1: you can smell weird things that aren't there. You can
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Speaker 1: think that you're appendages have grown in size, like my
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Speaker 1: arm has grown. If they actually have, it's probably just overeating.
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Speaker 1: If your arm gross. If your appendages grow in size,
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Speaker 1: food cravings, temporary blindness, no fun. This is what Coop
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Speaker 1: suffers from. And he still takes the time to do
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Speaker 1: all those photoshop drops of us because he did a
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Speaker 1: really good job with the Stepbrothers one. I mean, did
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Speaker 1: you look at the detail in it? And they're all
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Speaker 1: really good and so that was the peak. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: you got a migraine, Josh, what do you do well again?
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Speaker 1: People people seem to treat themselves, or tend to treat themselves.
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Speaker 1: They figure out what their triggers are, so they become
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Speaker 1: very aware. If you're a um, chocolate sitar, uh, you
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Speaker 1: shouldn't exercise, right. If that's you, that's my Friday night,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna stay away from exercise. You're going
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Speaker 1: to stay away from sitar music, and you're gonna not
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Speaker 1: eat chocolate, which sucks, but that's what you're gonna do.
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Speaker 1: And so you're going to prevent it. Right, there's a
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Speaker 1: cute treatment. There's preventative treatment. So you can prevent it,
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Speaker 1: um by paying attention to what triggers. These things, paying
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Speaker 1: attention to like if you get an aura, yeah, then
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Speaker 1: you're acute. Treatment kicks in, maybe you are going to
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Speaker 1: treat yourself acutely even before an ora kicks in. If
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Speaker 1: if you expose yourself to one year triggers um and
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Speaker 1: then if you if you do get the idea that
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Speaker 1: you're going to have a migraine, you can often treat them.
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Speaker 1: Like Coupe said, with you know a couple of eccrin migraines,
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Speaker 1: which are really just um insides. Yeah, taylan a advilt
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Speaker 1: non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs, right, and that's going to
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Speaker 1: keep your brain from vasodilating supposedly. Yeah, and with ecceterrin,
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Speaker 1: we should say that they specifically made the migraine UH
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Speaker 1: pill and it's a combination of aspirin, ACTA, menefin, and caffeine,
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Speaker 1: which migraine people said that works for me. You take
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Speaker 1: these before head pain comes on. Once your head pain
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Speaker 1: comes on, you need something stronger called SUMA trip hand
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Speaker 1: summetric TAN, which is also called immatrix. Remember the immatrics
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Speaker 1: adds with the semi coming at you. Yeah, yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: Well apparently this stuff works after your head has started exploding. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it works pretty well from what most people say, right right. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think also it's one of those things where there
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Speaker 1: works for you or it doesn't. I guess if it
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Speaker 1: works really well, you're gonna go all over the internet.
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Speaker 1: Sound great, it is right, um, but I think it
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Speaker 1: cannot work in people. But if you have nausea, if
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Speaker 1: you have vomiting, fortunately for you there is uh summetrip
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Speaker 1: tan I hope that's how you say it, um nasal sprays. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you can't puke that back up. There's also injections.
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Speaker 1: If you go at the hospital with the migraine, they're
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Speaker 1: probably going to give you an injection of that. But
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Speaker 1: as the author says in this article, you can get
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Speaker 1: your very own immatrix injection. Yeah, preventative. They found that. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and this is always so weird with me. For prescription drugs,
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Speaker 1: they find the off label use. They're like, well, your
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Speaker 1: blood pressure meds are stopping your migraines. That's cool. And
21:07
Speaker 1: there's a whole host of these antidepressants. Uh, Like I said,
21:11
Speaker 1: blood pressure medication, anihistamine, supro heptidine, cholesterol drugs, cardiovascular calcium
21:19
Speaker 1: channel blockers. They can all help with migraines with channel blockers.
21:22
Speaker 1: I wonder if that has to do with this, if
21:24
Speaker 1: it slows down the transmission of neurotransmitters because they go
21:29
Speaker 1: through ion channels. That's where the actual molecules go through. UM,
21:34
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that has something to do with it.
21:36
Speaker 1: And then obviously with like a blood pressure medicine that's
21:39
Speaker 1: going to keep vasodilation from occurring. UM. And then serotonin,
21:44
Speaker 1: they figured out that, like you said, antidepressants and other
21:47
Speaker 1: drugs that act on serotonin regulation or production have been
21:52
Speaker 1: shown to alleviate migraines or keep migraines from coming up
21:56
Speaker 1: on right, So serotonin has something to do with Sarah
21:59
Speaker 1: to owning hormones, anchovies, the crazy botox supposedly, Well, they
22:08
Speaker 1: just found that one of the weird side effects reported
22:11
Speaker 1: was that a fewer migraines and fewer headaches. But no
22:14
Speaker 1: one should go and get botox to relieve their migraines.
22:17
Speaker 1: We're not saying that. It's just we call that a sidebar,
22:22
Speaker 1: we do. Uh. And what about what Emily likes to
22:26
Speaker 1: call hokey pokey treatments and what other people call alternative medicine. Well,
22:32
Speaker 1: the one that jumped out at me is butter burr. Yeah,
22:35
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that. I hadn't either, but it's
22:37
Speaker 1: an herbal supplement. The problem is is um it may
22:40
Speaker 1: contain cancer causing compounds. So it's like, no, we're migraines
22:45
Speaker 1: or early death from cancer. I don't know, Rye Bo Flavian,
22:50
Speaker 1: eat your broccoli. Co enzyme Q tin supplements, cocute tin.
22:55
Speaker 1: Oh you know about cocute tin? Sure? Uh, fever few.
22:59
Speaker 1: It's an herbal supplement that apparently helps. It's an anti inflammatory.
23:04
Speaker 1: And then there are different things you can do like massage,
23:09
Speaker 1: breathing techniques, yoga, acupuncture has been said to help some folks.
23:13
Speaker 1: If you're into this alternative thing, I think whatever helps
23:16
Speaker 1: you know, well, Chuck, let's finish this. Let's bring this
23:20
Speaker 1: migraine to an in with famous people. Yeah. So apparently
23:23
Speaker 1: there is a theory of the migraine personality that people
23:27
Speaker 1: who have migraines are more driven, more creative. And then
23:31
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are driven in creative
23:34
Speaker 1: or were who had migraines, like we're before migraines killed them,
23:39
Speaker 1: right exactly, Virginia Wolf, Cervantes, uh, Nietzsche, Elvis, Freud, Monet,
23:47
Speaker 1: BEng It's also possible that all these people just happen
23:50
Speaker 1: to have migraines and we're creative famous, and there really
23:54
Speaker 1: isn't a migraine personality. You know. Percy Harvin, some Minnesota
24:00
Speaker 1: Vikings receiver played for the Florida Gators. Yeah, I was
24:03
Speaker 1: like to have a visceral reaction to that. Yeah, he's
24:07
Speaker 1: a migraine sufferer and he'll u I mean, it keeps
24:09
Speaker 1: him out of practice, out of games. He has to
24:11
Speaker 1: go basically home and seclude himself in a dark room.
24:14
Speaker 1: Apparently they're really really bad, despite the effect he played
24:18
Speaker 1: for Florida. I don't want to I don't want to
24:20
Speaker 1: wish that on anybody. Maybe Tim Tebow, maybe who's this
24:24
Speaker 1: Auburn coach? Yeah, yeah, what about him? Let's wish some
24:31
Speaker 1: migraines on them. You got anything else, I'm done, so KOPA.
24:37
Speaker 1: I hope buddy, you have a good Christmas and that
24:39
Speaker 1: your migraines. I hope we enlightened you some. He's probably like, no, yeah,
24:44
Speaker 1: I don't even know all this. Yeah, thanks, anyway, this
24:46
Speaker 1: would have been waiting two years for what how about this?
24:48
Speaker 1: Let's wish let's everybody just go and wish that the
24:52
Speaker 1: scientists will hurry up and cure migraines. Come about that.
24:57
Speaker 1: Do you want to learn more about migraines and see
24:59
Speaker 1: a picture of a brain getting hit by lightning? You
25:03
Speaker 1: can type that word in, Oh, we didn't talk about
25:06
Speaker 1: the word migraine, Chuck. The etymology of the word migraine,
25:09
Speaker 1: I should say, uh, comes from two words hem acrania
25:14
Speaker 1: half a brain, remember it only hits part of your
25:17
Speaker 1: brain at once, and another word megram, which is actually
25:21
Speaker 1: now another word for migraine, but megrim back in the
25:24
Speaker 1: eighteenth century meant basically a low feeling on a whim,
25:29
Speaker 1: or what a delicate woman would experience, you know, when
25:32
Speaker 1: she You know how women used to feign, or they
25:34
Speaker 1: think women feigned a lot or whatever. This was associated
25:38
Speaker 1: with the migraines were associated with women. Ah, So megram,
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Speaker 1: hem acrania, migraine got you. Do you want to learn
25:49
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26:03
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26:06
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26:10
Speaker 1: We got a lot of great emails. I'm going to
26:12
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26:15
Speaker 1: nice message attached. Hi guys, including Jerry, I just listen
26:19
Speaker 1: to your podcast I'm Kissing and made me think about
26:21
Speaker 1: my first kiss. I'm twenty seven years old and my
26:23
Speaker 1: first kiss happened but two years ago. When I was
26:28
Speaker 1: growing up, I never dated and sadly not by my
26:30
Speaker 1: own choosing. I would admire the popular boys from Afar
26:33
Speaker 1: and imagine what it would be like to kiss them
26:36
Speaker 1: when go ahead, Okay. When high school came around, I
26:40
Speaker 1: had a lot of friends, but I began feeling bad
26:42
Speaker 1: about myself because I never had a boyfriend. No one
26:45
Speaker 1: was interested in dating me. I was always the best
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Speaker 1: friend who was just one of the guys. Wait, Chuck,
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26:53
Speaker 1: From a girl? I took a long time. It took
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27:22
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27:26
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27:31
Speaker 1: waiting for. We are still together and the kisses are frequent.
27:34
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27:36
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27:38
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27:40
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27:43
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27:46
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27:49
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27:52
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27:53
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28:00
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28:02
Speaker 1: Leah in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Earth, Leah, thank you very
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28:17
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28:21
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28:24
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28:26
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28:29
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28:32
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28:37
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28:38
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