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Jets Hope | Mets Decisions | Aaron Donald "I'm Back" | Daejon Love | Brunson Turns Pagee · Independent N.I.C.

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  Speaker 1: and then, you know, we get the big guy lock
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  Speaker 1: instead of Baum.
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  Speaker 2: I just want– I felt like, you know, I felt
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  Speaker 2: like honoring the big guy since, you know, football season
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  Speaker 1: Good save, good save. Yeah, it's like the bat signal, right?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, football is right around the corner. And with
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  Speaker 1: football being right around the corner, one Jets drive is
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  Speaker 1: a time. This is the time of the year where
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  Speaker 1: we typically have lots of optimism. And then soon after,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes only four plays into a season, it all comes
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  Speaker 1: crashing down. But with the New York Jets this year,
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  Speaker 1: the question is, is there some hope? Or is it
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  Speaker 1: all a lot of hype? And to me, what it
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  Speaker 1: really comes down to, because nobody out here thinks that
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  Speaker 1: the Jets are winning the Super Bowl. Very few people
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  Speaker 1: think that the Jets are making the playoffs. As optimistic
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  Speaker 1: as I typically am, I really hope that there's a chance,
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  Speaker 1: you know, by the end of this season, we're looking
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  Speaker 1: around and we're saying, okay, like, you know, we got
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  Speaker 1: a chance if the If a couple things go our way,
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  Speaker 1: we might be able to get into the dance. I
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  Speaker 1: don't in any way, shape, or form believe that that's possible. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: that's not true. I shouldn't say I don't believe it's possible.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely not likely. Jets right now are the over-under
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  Speaker 1: is set at five and a half wins. Last year,
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  Speaker 1: they only won three games. So if they were to
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  Speaker 1: win six, they double their win total. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: you can't really measure success this year by wins and losses,
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  Speaker 1: playoffs or not. If the Jets find a way to
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  Speaker 1: make the playoffs, obviously it is just a rousing success
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  Speaker 1: by Aaron Glenn, Doug Mugee, and the New York Jets.
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  Speaker 1: But what is more likely is that they'll, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully get up to that seven, you know, somewhere around
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  Speaker 1: seven wins, maybe eight. I feel like eight would be
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  Speaker 1: something that you would feel good about. But let's just
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  Speaker 1: say the win total is hanging around that five and
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  Speaker 1: a half. They got five wins. They got six wins.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going to feel as a Jets fan
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  Speaker 1: if they end up with six wins? To me, you
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  Speaker 1: have to not look at the win, loss, and tie columns.
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  Speaker 1: You have to look at what does success really look
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  Speaker 1: like For this Jets team and specifically, what does it
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  Speaker 1: look like for Aaron Glenn in his second year? For me,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. He's got to look competent. There was
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  Speaker 1: times last year as an NFL head coach, he did
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  Speaker 1: not look competent. And we've seen this now for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time in Jets land where going from Aaron Glenn
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  Speaker 1: last year, to Robert Sala, to Adam Gase. Even continuing
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  Speaker 1: to go back. There's even coaches who, when they were
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  Speaker 1: the Jets coach, Todd Bowles. He looked like kind of
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  Speaker 1: a stooge. He's had a decent amount of success since.
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  Speaker 1: He was a guy who I thought was a coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: but not a head guy. He's went down to Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 1: and he's done well for himself. Good for him. It
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  Speaker 1: just goes to show you sometimes the organization that you're with,
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback that you have, the offensive line that you have.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the key factors. And sometimes no matter who
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  Speaker 1: you are, you can't overcome those things. But is it
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  Speaker 1: something where it was too much for him to be
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  Speaker 1: able to overcome? You know, a lot of people... look
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  Speaker 1: at these last few years and they talk about how,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we haven't had great quarterback play. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers in his second year coming off of
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  Speaker 1: a torn Achilles in his forties was the best throw
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  Speaker 1: of the football that I've seen from a jet quarterback
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  Speaker 1: since maybe ever.
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  Speaker 2: You know what people forget about Rodgers that year too.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody just looked and this is where I actually really
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  Speaker 2: agree with you on the win loss total. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at Aaron Rodgers' numbers that year, he basically had
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  Speaker 2: the exact same numbers as Patrick Mahomes. Like, it was
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  Speaker 2: borderline identical. It was that freaking close.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point. I didn't know that. But what
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  Speaker 1: I do know is both quarterbacks had the same issue.
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  Speaker 1: And it was going to be my overarching point when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to sometimes a guy just can't overcome his circumstance.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that year was running for his life the
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  Speaker 1: entire season. The offensive line was a joke. Last year,
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line upgrades. We go tackles and back-to-back years.
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  Speaker 1: We get our bookends in Fashanu and Membo. They both
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  Speaker 1: turn out to be what seems to be like good,
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  Speaker 1: you know, go ahead, pencil them in for the next
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  Speaker 1: decade type offensive tackles. And then last year, we have
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  Speaker 1: the continuity of the entire offensive line playing every single
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  Speaker 1: game together, and then you go into this season and
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  Speaker 1: you feel like that's going to be one of the strengths.
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  Speaker 1: So that's going to be one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I look to at the end of the season and
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  Speaker 1: I say, hey, is this offensive line, is it truly
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  Speaker 1: a unit that we can, you know, kind of rely
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  Speaker 1: on to be one of the better units in football
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  Speaker 1: moving forward? I think that's a huge factor on what
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  Speaker 1: success the Jets end up having in the win and
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  Speaker 1: loss column. But even if the win and loss column is,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what it is at the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: looking at that unit and feeling comfortable that we don't
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  Speaker 1: really need to do anything else there. We can just
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  Speaker 1: improve in other places. I think that is a huge,
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  Speaker 1: huge barometer for this season. So you got Aaron Glenn
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  Speaker 1: looking competent. I need, you know, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the quote unquote, having guys ready to play, which I
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  Speaker 1: know is not something that is easy to quantify, but
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  Speaker 1: it is something that is, is real in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: There's some guys, there's some teams that at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of games from one week to the next, they don't
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  Speaker 1: look ready to play. And that it could be schematically
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  Speaker 1: that could be intensity wise. And I think that comes
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  Speaker 1: down to the head coach. It seems like those teams
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  Speaker 1: with the great head coaches, you're never really, uh, getting
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  Speaker 1: that feeling like these guys just weren't ready and they
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  Speaker 1: got hit in the mouth. Are the Jets going to
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  Speaker 1: be the team that comes out there that's hitting other
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  Speaker 1: teams in the mouth? And that comes down to Aaron Glenn. Competent,
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  Speaker 1: clock management, down in distance, understanding when it's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: time to pull the plug on a guy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, it just, again, whether or not he's competent,
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  Speaker 1: that's also not a super easy thing to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: give exact parameters on, but you know it when you
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  Speaker 1: see it, and you know when you don't. We need
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn to step up this year. You want to,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of this season, feel like we have
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  Speaker 1: our coach. I don't think anybody felt like that at
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  Speaker 1: the end of last season. I think that many people
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  Speaker 1: like myself are still willing to give him a chance.
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  Speaker 1: He's talking about learning from his mistakes as far as
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  Speaker 1: not calling the defense last year, not being as hands-on
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  Speaker 1: with some of the things that he specializes in. his
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  Speaker 1: overall surliness with the media. I'm hoping that Aaron Glenn
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  Speaker 1: learns to just be a better football coach as well.
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  Speaker 2: I actually have a lot of faith that he will.
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  Speaker 2: I think he seems like somebody who will learn from mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: I think most coaches, Sands, Urban Meyer, deserve second chances.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of the Jets' schedule, it's such an interesting
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  Speaker 2: mix for them because they have quite a mix between
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  Speaker 2: a lot of winnable games, In a lot of games,
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  Speaker 2: we were like, we've really got to play this team
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  Speaker 2: because they've got to play the NFC North and the
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  Speaker 2: AFC West.
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  Speaker 1: Consecutively.
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  Speaker 2: Why do we have to play the NFC North consecutively?
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  Speaker 2: Those two divisions are full of that.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody makes the playoffs. They're all playoff teams, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got to play the NFC North all in a row, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shitty.
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  Speaker 1: Not that worried about the Packers anymore, though, man. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, the Packers just seem like they're ready to implode.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that. Now they got, you know, they got,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jones is out. He's on the list.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're on the list. Yeah, Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs.
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner exempt. Yeah, no. Commissioner exempt. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Significant, though. You think? I mean, yeah, that's a fucking
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  Speaker 1: big deal, man. And, you know, the list to me,
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  Speaker 1: says basically you're out for the year. Adrian Peterson, back
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  Speaker 1: in the day, he basically missed, what, 13 games?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to tell you. Which, hold on, let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you a question about AP. Because I saw a video
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  Speaker 1: the other day of... ap's son and he's some fucking
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  Speaker 1: crazy running back slash wide receiver slash slash slash d
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  Speaker 1: backer linebacker he does everything right and he's i mean
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  Speaker 1: he's just destroying kids and he's like 14 and his
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  Speaker 1: workouts look insane his workouts look a lot better than
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  Speaker 1: mr jaylen jaylon loves which i'm talking about yeah he
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  Speaker 1: looks a lot better than his a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot better we gotta get into that but again Before
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  Speaker 2: the Jets, you know, I just want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Jets schedule again really fast. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I have to ask you this question before I forget.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the attention span to come back to this.
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  Speaker 1: Is that kid that we see the highlights of, is
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  Speaker 1: that the one that AP was whooping his ass with
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  Speaker 1: the belt back in the day with the switch?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, that was, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure, but I'm going to assume so because it's
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  Speaker 2: been like 11 years since that whole incident.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. It kind of looks like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of looks like it worked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and condone that. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty crazy, right? It's pretty crazy to
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  Speaker 2: think about like 11 years later. Because I remember when
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  Speaker 2: he was on that list. That was one of the
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  Speaker 2: biggest stories that season in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it was huge. It was huge.
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  Speaker 2: It was massive.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, listen. Okay. That's a big topic of whether or not,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when kids are little, you know, putting their
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  Speaker 1: hands on a ball. Again, I'm not touching that either.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I personally... My voice scares my kids enough,
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  Speaker 1: so we never have to go that far. But different from,
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: you go back a generation and, you know, lots of
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  Speaker 1: kids were getting belts and switches and shoes or at
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  Speaker 1: least a hand. But, yo, it's funny because I remember
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  Speaker 1: the first thing I thought to myself when they said that, like, he, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I forget, was it a, I don't forget
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  Speaker 1: it was a belt or a switch, but he hit
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  Speaker 1: him with something. He hit him with some sort of object.
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  Speaker 2: He said publicly, he said in an interview that it
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  Speaker 2: was a switch.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, switch.
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  Speaker 2: He said he would hit his kid with a switch.
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  Speaker 2: In an interview, of all things.
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  Speaker 1: But how much do you know about the switch, though, Balm?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know that's more of a black folk thing.
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  Speaker 2: I know nothing. I just know, you know, my dad
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  Speaker 2: would tell me, you know, his stories from his childhood.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he got a wooden cooking spoon.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, see, that sounds more like, you know, that's a
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  Speaker 1: city thing. That's the wooden cooking spoon. That's an Italian
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  Speaker 1: Jewish thing. you know, Polish, like, yeah, that's what my friends,
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: you know, their parents would tell those types of stories.
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  Speaker 1: Kids in my generation, not as much, but I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it was happening. Black folks with the switch, to give
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit of, you know, a little context here, definitely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my mom talks about the switch. I was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I never had to deal with such a thing. But,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: you know, you're going outside and you're getting basically like
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  Speaker 1: one of the small thin branches off of a tree. And,
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  Speaker 1: Then you got to clean the leaves off of it.
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  Speaker 1: And like, there was a whole thing about how you
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  Speaker 1: had to, you had to pick a switch, which you
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  Speaker 1: had to pick a good enough switch. And if you
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  Speaker 1: did it, then that means that the, uh, the switchy
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  Speaker 1: got to pick, um, the switch and therefore, and then,
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: you know, that would even go worse for you. My thing,
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  Speaker 1: when I saw that, I was just like, yo, I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you've ever seen Adrian
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  Speaker 1: Peterson with no shirt on, paws, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the body issue or whatever he did, he's a physical specimen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously most running backs, professional athletes are. He's
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  Speaker 1: on a slightly different level. He looked like he was
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  Speaker 1: a Marvel character.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I'll take this down to a G-rated level for
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  Speaker 2: you here for a minute because this is actually super interesting.
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  Speaker 2: People would say when he would just like shake your hand,
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  Speaker 2: he would basically break. It was like just meeting you
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  Speaker 2: for the first time in a normal setting. You'd shake
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  Speaker 2: his hand, and it was just like it would be broken, basically.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so two things on that. First and foremost, the
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  Speaker 1: people who shake your hand so hard. Now, Adrian Peterson,
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  Speaker 1: he might have just been trying to shake your hand,
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  Speaker 1: and he's just too strong. He couldn't do it. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. He didn't know any better. But people
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: that go in with the hard shake, and they go in,
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  Speaker 1: and they really try to show you how hard they
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  Speaker 1: can shake your hand, some of my least favorite people.
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  Speaker 1: This is another one of those worst people in the
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  Speaker 1: world type things.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe that you should come with the former. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Come with the firm shake. Firm is good. But some dudes,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, it's a competition. It's like, bro, I've even had,
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  Speaker 1: there's even been a couple of women who you could
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  Speaker 1: tell that they were really trying to prove something. And
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: they came in with the strong shake. Me personally... You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just think that's ridiculous. And I take note of
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  Speaker 1: those people. I take note of those people, and the
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  Speaker 1: next time I come, I come correct. The key is
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you clench with your opposite fist. You clench that into
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  Speaker 1: a fist hard, and that allows you to be able
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: to squeeze even harder with the shake hand. And if
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  Speaker 1: people come at me with that shit, the next time
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  Speaker 1: I come, I try to bury them. But, yeah, nah,
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  Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson thing, man, it was like, yo, you
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  Speaker 1: really need to get a switch? You could have flicked
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  Speaker 1: that kid. And the kid probably would have had a
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  Speaker 1: deep bone bruise. Like, yo, you really need to get
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  Speaker 1: a switch? Hey, Pete, yo, chill. But I have no
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: idea how we got to Adrian Peterson and hitting kids
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  Speaker 1: with switches.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: We're talking about Josh Jacobs, the commissioner exemplist, and how
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: the Packers are not beatable, that you feel are beatable.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree. I think the floor is a fraud.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fraud.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you guys get both of them this year.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: You get both of them this year. And, you know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: what's his name? And, you know, the younger brother, Mike, he's,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a former Jets offensive coordinator. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a I don't hate on that.
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  Speaker 1: I love floor. Michael floor. Not so much. Matt, on
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, I think he's just a fraud. I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: really do. I think he's been super lucky with great quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his entire tenure over there. And I just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's done enough with them.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just me, or does it always look like
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  Speaker 2: he's going to cry?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, it looks like he's about to cry, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Always looks like he's about to cry.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a wet eye.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the wet eye. Legitimately, like, the sad face,
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  Speaker 2: like the sad puppy eyes and, like, You know, the
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  Speaker 2: face is just like you just see it starting to quiver.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. He's got the sad face, but he's
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  Speaker 1: also got the wet eye. He looks like if he
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  Speaker 1: blinks that the tears would just start to drop down
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: his cheeks. I don't know what that is about him,
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  Speaker 1: and I've never really put words to it before, but
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  Speaker 1: as soon as you said it, I was like, yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: He looks like he's about to cry at all times.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: So Jets need to have that offensive line continuity. Aaron
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Glenn needs to look competent, and then we need some
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  Speaker 1: defensive improvement. Not one interception last year. We've already had
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a few here in preseason. Aaron Glenn, the Jets' all-time
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: leader in interceptions, is the head coach. We've got to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: create some turnovers this year. Last year, we created some fumbles,
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  Speaker 1: but we were terrible at recovering them. This year, we absolutely,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: positively have to create some turnovers. Now, we have a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: beefed-up Will McDonald pause today. We have a rookie who
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: looks like he could be a sensation in David Bailey.
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  Speaker 1: Great first step, has looked great during camp, has looked
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  Speaker 1: great during the preseason, and has looked like he can
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: set an edge in the rushing game, which is the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: big question on him coming out of Texas A & M.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And we also have some different schemes in an Aaron
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Glenn-type defense that is supposed to be able to create
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: some pressure. So I think that that's going to lead
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: to some more turnovers. But we also need to catch
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the ball when it comes to us, and we need
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to jump some routes. And I'm hoping that Aaron Glenn
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: is coaching these guys up, Minka Fitzpatrick, you know, DeMario Davis,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: both veterans. You know, with Minka, it's all about keeping
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: him on the field. And then, you know, it's going
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what that defense looks like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: because almost everybody believes that the offense is going to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: be much improved. I mean, Geno Smith is much better
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: than Justin Fields at everything other than, you know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: The thing is that I want to say everything other
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: than running the ball. I was extremely underwhelmed by Justin
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Fields running the ball as well last year. It's not
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: even like he did that well. I didn't think we schemed.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't think we had enough designed run plays for him.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: But even when it was time for him to pull
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a ball down and go and run for it, he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't even that good at that. Like I've said, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: think that he's a really good rugby player. And then
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think that at the end of the day, you're
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: going to see Aaron Glenn's worth as a head coach drop.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: depending on what happens with the defense. The offense should
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: be better. Offensive line, Geno Smith, you know, he's ready
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to risk it to biscuit. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He's going to throw the ball to the other team
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but he's going to throw the ball.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: He's going to throw the ball down the field. Let's go.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Let's get Garen Wilson down the fucking field, and let's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: get some exciting shit. I'm tired of seeing him having
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to do crazy acrobatics to make an eight-yard catch. Let's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: get him down the field. Frank Reich, let's go. Brees,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: they say he's going to be ready for week one.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: There's optimism that Sadiq is going to be ready for
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: week one, which is huge, even though he hasn't got
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a ton of reps and he's a rookie. You got
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Omar Cooper Jr. You know, the Jets have a chance, man.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Mason Taylor, they have a chance to have an exciting offense,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and especially if the offensive line can stay healthy and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the running backs can stay healthy. I need Brees. You
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: got Jacobs. He's doing his thing. And the last thing is,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to me, the most important. And the Jets are getting
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of criticism right now. because they have named
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Cade Klubnick as the number two quarterback. And many people
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: are talking about the fact that he, you know, wasn't
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: even that highly touted. He was just a year ago.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: But in this draft, obviously, he was a fourth round pick.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Didn't have his last year at Clemson wasn't that great.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was playing with Dabo and his band
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of misfits since he refuses to evolve with the game.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And therefore, you know, he just didn't have that good
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of a year. And without him having that good of
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a year, he drops and all of a sudden the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Jets pick him up and he's looked pretty good in preseason.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: They say he's looked pretty good in camp. Frank Reich
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: seems to have a ton of confidence in him and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: really feel like he has a chance to be a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: real NFL quarterback. And everybody's criticizing the Jets for making
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: him the number two. And I totally agree with the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Jets that he should be your number two quarterback. And
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the most important, the most by far important thing for
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the New York Jets this season is to find out
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what they have in Cade Klubnick. It's the most important thing.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You know, listen, unless... Gino is playing awesome, and we're
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: fighting for a playoff spot. I would say second half
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of the season, definitely the last quarter of the season,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: he needs to be in there playing no matter what,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: no matter what Gino's doing. Obviously, if Gino's playing really well,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: we fight for a spot. You're not going to pull
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: him out then, but the biggest mistake that the Jets
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: could make is to have a high pick next year,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: which means they don't, have a ton of success as
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: far as wins and losses this season, but not know
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if Cade is the guy that you want to hand
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the keys to for the future. You got three picks
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: in next year's first round. You got a young team
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: and some really good players and some veterans that are
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in position that you're not going to be in. You're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: going to have a lot of holes that are already filled.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Pause. Pause.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So what you really got to do is you got
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to see whether or not Cade is that guy, or
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: if you need to, you know, use one of those
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: high picks or package up some of those high picks
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: or some future picks to go for your guy quarterback
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in a quarterback heavy draft. The team that we share
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: met life with. I think they're a perfect example. If
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you look at last year, the way that they, turned
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the keys over to Jackson Dart, and by the end
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of the season, they were like, we got our guy.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: The Jets need to figure that out either way by
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the end of the season.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You 100% said everything that I was going to say
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: with Klubnik. Unless the Jets are competing for a spot,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: they 100% need to see what they have at them.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Because again, if you think
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you do have something with them, You have three first-round
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: picks to get other very talented players at very cheap
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: costs in other places while you have three years of
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Klubnick on the mad cheap, like the 49ers had a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: couple years ago with Brock. You have a chance to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: really soup up your roster that way if you think
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Klubnick's the guy. If you don't and you think he's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: just a backup, then fine. You spend one of those
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: three picks on a quarterback in a quarterback-heavy draft. So, yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the Jets absolutely need to see what they have in
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Klubnick Unless Geno just goes crazy and the Jets are
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: right in that picture of playoffs, then obviously you don't
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: do anything.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. It seems pretty simple, but it's the Jets. So,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you know, let's hope they don't find a way to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: fuck it all up. The New York Mets, they lost
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to the Rays tonight. They split the first two games
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of the series. Rubber match tomorrow. Yankee fans, we were
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: not able to help you out tonight as Freddy Peralta throws...
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Quite the game against the Mets. Keeps them down to
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: only one run. A lead-off home run by Francisco Lindor.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Peralta started off, I think his first four or five
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: starts with the Rays. Not so great. Been throwing his
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: change up a lot more, and he's looking better. Listen,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the Mets, you know, the whole time of being like, ah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you got to believe, you know, let's pay attention to,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know, what's going on with these, let's pay attention
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to do we have a chance to, you know, get
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to some sort of playoff contention? Can we make a run?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Can it be fun to finish the season? Okay, well,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that shit's dead. And with that being dead, then you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: have to look at September. And to me, it's about
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: making some tough decisions. It's about giving some guys a
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: little bit of rope and seeing what they are and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: making some tough decisions that I think personally should have
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: already been made and I'm looking specifically at Brett Beatty
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and Vientos honestly like to me it's like I'm standing
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: with you know my feet on the five yard line
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and it's coming in end over end and am I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: gonna fair catch or am I gonna let this one
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: bounce because I feel like it's time to let both
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of those guys and Neither of them have any type of,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you know, trade value. They're both under control for a while.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So I guess regardless, they come back next year, they
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: break camp. But I think that if you go into
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: next season and you're expecting either Beatty or Vientos to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: be a real part of the plan, they're just not
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: major league hitters. They're not, not on a consistent basis.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Vientos is not a major league fielder in any way, shape,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: or form. Definitely not at third. At first, he's slightly better,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: but he still sucks. You know who he's not as
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: good at, at playing first base? A guy who's also
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like the hottest hitter on the fucking planet right now.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And once again, he's going to have 30 and 100.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Peter Alonso. Fucking, fucking. That shit pisses me off every
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: goddamn day, yo. Every day I see something about Pete
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and it pisses me off. I fucking forgot to change
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: my hat. I'm gonna have to watch this shit for
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the fucking next however many years. This is my generation's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Tom Seaver. Where I'm just gonna have to spend years
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: watching this guy down in Baltimore doing what he's Always done. Always.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Mash home runs and drive-in runs. But, you know, the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Mets will be looking for a power-hitting first baseman going
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: into next year. He can't make this shit up.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I got one we can offer you. He just hit
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: his 31st home run of the year tonight. It's not
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo. It's some guy who's still somehow on your
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: fantasy team, even though I should have traded the bag
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: of balls for him, Rafael Devers.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, Devers, my guy, three-run ding-dong tonight. And he's, you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: getting hot at the right time, still looking like a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: top 50 fantasy player. Had a really, really– I had
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to change my team name and get up off of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: him because I couldn't have him be– it was better
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: late than Devers for quite some time. I had to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: get up off of it. And now we're just starting off.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: We're getting to the playoffs. Your boy is the number
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: two seed.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, he's the most hitter in the league right now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying to tell you. Let's go.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Going into tonight's game, he was 13 for his last
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: 31 with four homers. And then he took schemes to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: dead center. He's also this year– His defense at first
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: base has been a borderline revelation.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dude, I don't know what Ron Washington does, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: that guy works absolute magic. He turned the rest of
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Ryan into a gold glover.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: He is unreal. That's what I'm saying. Chop it up
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: for my man, Ron. Give him another line.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Let him do his fucking thing. I will say, one
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: great watch story that I do have personally, when he
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was still the third base coach of the A's, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was 15, 16 years old, went to a Giants A's game, ballpark, and,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like a Saturday afternoon game. We had
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a little time to kill for fairies coming home and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: everything like that because that's how we got to games
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: back in that day because our parents never wanted to
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: drive us into the city. You know, bridge tolls, traffic,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: all that fun shit. We're walking around the ballpark. We
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: see a couple of Giants players come out, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: with their dogs and whatnot. You know, we're walking down
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: by the bay where the visiting players' entrance is. We
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: just see Wash come out of the clubhouse, and he's
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: fully dressed in his just normal street clothes. Gives us
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: all the what-up sign, throws a peace sign or whatever.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Next thing he does, rips out a pack and just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: starts ripping off a dart just in the middle of everybody.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: What a legend.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because he had just done a line.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: These were the younger years for him, too, so probably.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on, man. We know what my man was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I mean, you know, there's that iconic
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: picture of Keith Hernandez smoking a dart in the fucking dugout.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there was different times back then,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: my friend. We know around Washington, he gets after. He
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: likes to party. Good for him, man. And, yeah, I mean,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: as far as infield coaching, we've seen him do it
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: over and over again, different stops, doesn't matter where he is, just,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you know. But, you know, that's another thing that really
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: pisses me off. is the Mets and some of the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: decisions that they've made here recently around some of their
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: bench coaches, coaches. So what are the Mets going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: do now? The Mets are going to go looking for...
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I want our next manager to be Carlos Beltran, personally.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: But we did the whole Eric Chavez thing for a while.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: That went down in Flavs. And then the thing that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: really pissed me off was, you know, last year you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: have Antoine Richardson as your first base coach. The team
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is stealing more bases than it ever has before. Juan
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Soto specifically. I mean, and it's not, they're stealing bases with,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: with smarts and guile. It's not a bunch of speedsters.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: It's guys that are clearly, they got something going on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and we let this guy leave and then go to
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the Braves. Like, what the fuck is Stearns doing? Like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: what was he doing this offseason? We're going to end
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: up finding out that, like, he was being, like, extorted
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: or some shit. Like, maybe, like, it's some brand-new, like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Wilpon Madoff type shit. I don't fucking know. But it's
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: really hard to understand some of the decisions that this
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: guy made. And, you know, this offseason, he has to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: knock it out of the fucking park. He really does.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: This is fucking New York City. There's no fucking more
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: gap years and that bullshit. You're going to have to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: do a lot for me not to fucking opine over Pete.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: And I really don't think there's anything that he can do.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you mostly. The only issue is
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: going to be the damn lockout. It's going to be
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a rampant offseason. They're going to miss some time. I'd
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: be stuck. No doubt, 100%. It's going to be ugly, nasty.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to be an absolute bloodbath. So when that
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: time finally does come and players can sign, it's going
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to be really fascinating. It's going to be more like
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the NFL than what you see in a normal Major
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: League Baseball offseason. Like, you know how NFL offseason gets.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Second free agency hits, guys are just signing left and right.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, crap, I didn't realize that guy was bleached.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me get that guaranteed money because baseball typically
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: goes way deeper.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's a slower process.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But isn't that one of the things that I saw
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: recently that either, I forget which side, but one of
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the sides have proposed like having a baseball offseason that's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: just more condensed?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the owners did.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: The owners did. I mean, listen, I think that's good
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: just for the buzz that it creates. Like NFL and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: NBA offseason are events. Baseball, that shit where it's like, okay,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: training camp has started and there are still huge names
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that are out there unsigned. that's not good for the game.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's not good for the creating excitement
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: around the game.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: No, definitely. But I mean, also you have the difference
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: with baseball too, is contracts are basically fully guaranteed. Like
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the NFL, there's like three. Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But NBA, they're fully guaranteed too.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: You only have five years in the NBA. You also
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: only have five year deals in the NBA and baseball.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You have guys signing for 10 plus or, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: seven to eight plus years. It's, it's significantly more capital.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: It's significantly slower process. It seems.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Honestly, one thing, you know, I'm always pro player, always
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: pro player. I'm always pro workforce, shorter contracts in baseball,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you know, getting a, getting a CBA where it's like, Hey,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: there's no, there's no salary cap, but like the max
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: deal can be only X amount of years and X
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: amount of dollars. So therefore you are putting a cap
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: on what somebody can earn depending on their tenure and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: their accolades, but at the same time, don't tell me
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: my team can't sign one of those at every single
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: position if I want to. I think that's actually a
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: pretty good compromise where you're not getting hamstrung with these 13,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: 14-year deals. You're giving a guy a five-year deal and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you're giving him, what, 40, 50? What's the highest AAV
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: right now in baseball?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I believe right now it's Juan Soto, 51. 15 years, 765, right?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: So give me, say 5 for 50 is the max
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that you can get. Let's go 7. Let's split the
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: baby and go 7.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm actually wrong on this. It's actually Kyle Tucker.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: He's getting $ 60 million a year right now with no deferrals.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Soto's second, 51. And then Shohei Otani has the actual
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: highest AAV, but obviously... Deferred bullshit. Yeah, every last ounce
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: of it is deferred. So his only... His counts $ 2
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: million against the CBT, which owners basically use as a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: de facto salary cap, even though it isn't a salary cap.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, the deferred money fixed that shit.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I think a max on how much you can... On
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: how much you can make... you know, just as ours
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: are our length of contract. I don't think those things
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: are bad for baseball. Cause I think that sometimes, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: these guys want, you know, if that was the case, shit,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo would still be a Met, you know, cause
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: we'd have known that, Hey, this is what he can get.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And this is what it is. And like, it's either
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you want to give them the max or you don't.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I kind of like that, but I don't think the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: players union probably never go for that shit either. Baseball player,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you players union, this guy, they've had the whole thing
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: by the balls for so long. And that's the thing.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: The owners feel like they have to make a change.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And if I'm the players, I'm just like, all right, well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you know, let's see how long y'all want to sit out.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But the owners have very deep pockets and they have
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: other streams of income. The players always end up breaking
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: first because the people that are on the lower levels,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: they need the money. And I don't know how what
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they're going to try and do. I know previously with
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: labor agreements from different sports, you've had guys who make
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: more money kind of, you know, making sure that the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: guys with the smaller paychecks can, you know, stay above
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: water while they figure things out. I think it's too
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: vast at this point to be able to do something
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like that. So it doesn't seem like either team, either
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: side is willing to budge and they're making any progress.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that ends up going. But for now,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the Mets need to make some decisions. They need to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to understand, like, listen. Okay, so Thornton,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's a rotation guy. Guy in rotation
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: next year. You know, you have your outfield set. First
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: base is young. Is he your first baseman of the future?
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's a valuable player.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: He could be like a, you know, utility type guy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: He's had some really, really good, you know, months. And
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: he's had a pretty good, he's had a solid season
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: for the amount he's played.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: He has.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, third base, you know, you got Bichette.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: It looks like he's going to probably opt in for
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: next year. I hope to have a big year and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: then sign a big deal after that. Second base, you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: got to figure that out. Ewing is our center fielder,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but he can play second base fairly competently from what
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: people say. But Viento, Spady, they got to go. They
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: got to go. They're just not the guys. Fresh– Fresh
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: hat alert. This hat just came in last week, and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I wanted this hat when it first came out. The
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Knicks finals, the Knicks championship hats that they were wearing
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: on the court, I didn't really love those. I honestly
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thought that all of the postgame, you know, from the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: shirts to the hats, all of it, I really think
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that they thought San Antonio was going to win, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: they made it for San Antonio. I really do. That's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: how it felt. Go look at those final shirts again
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and tell me that shirt. It looks like it was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: supposed to have a fucking Knicks logo on it. Shit
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: looks like a Spurs. It's black and gray. And the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: hat as well. I didn't like the hat. So when
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they came out with the Knicks, just normal Knicks hat
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: with the finals patch, I went to go get it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a seven and five eighths. I got a big head.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: They don't make a whole lot of fucking hats our
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: sizes in the first place. And then it was sold out.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: So then finally I got the notification that it's here
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and I got The final set. I promised my wife
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this was the final piece to my Knicks championship paraphernalia.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I may have just ordered some shorts. What are we
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: going to do, man? No, listen, listen. Let's not act
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like she ain't, you know, she got herself an OG shirt.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: She loves OG. She loves OG. She thinks OG's hilarious,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: but it is. He's, you know, she's like, he's the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: perfect amount of autistic.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: He's great.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And then she got another shirt that's got like the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: five starters with like their signatures on it. And then
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: she got another joint. It's like a, it's kind of
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like a, like a, like almost like a purplish, like
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: lilac color, but it's just got like an old school,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like Knicks with like the hoop and like the ball
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: going through it. And it's got the matching shorts. That
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: fit right there. I told her, you know, If I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: had already gotten snipped and she wore that, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: we might have another kid on the way.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I have a question about the shirt with the five
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: stars and the signature on them. Do they actually look
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: like the five starters?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I forget. There's one person who's a little bit off,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: but I forget who it is. She gets this shit on, like, Etsy, dog.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: She gets this shit on, like, Etsy. And, like, the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: shirt costs, like, $ 7. 52. It's like somebody's, like.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you want this shirt, I will make it
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: for you right now and send it to you, basically. But, yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: she got all those three things on Etsy, I believe.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: The OG shirts. Her shirt is the shirt with the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: guys because it's kind of like an illustration. And I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: think four out of the five look very legit. I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: forget which one it is. I want to say Josh
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Hart is a little sus. A little bit sus. Oh, yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Apparently, somewhere in practice happens about complaining in practice. Hold on.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Not Etsy. Not Etsy. It seems that the missus is
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: watching right now, and it is Sheen. Yo, shout out
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to you for hearing me talk all this shit all
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the time, and you're actually somewhere. I guess you're in
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the other room watching right now. I hope you're not
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: watching on the big screen and they didn't, you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: hear my whole talk about the jumpsuit and what that
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: would have led to for the kids and my in-laws. But, yeah. No,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: she's cooking. She's cooking. She's got the headphones in. You know, look, man. Look, man.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Who's got it better than me? Out there doing a
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: thing in the kitchen and listening to your boy. And
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it is Sheen. Yes, it is Sheen. And, you know, the...
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: The Knicks gear that's come to this house between that's her,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: then you got me, my son, my daughter. Everybody got
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: a shirt when I went back to New York. My
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: son got the Brunson finals jersey. He's back on his feet.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: He's out here. He's ready to go. He's ready to go.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: We're working. Me and him, we're working. We did a
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Spider-Man workout yesterday, which is five pull-ups, ten push-ups, and.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And 15 squats, 20 minutes. How many rounds can you do?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: He's in way better shape than I am. Let's put
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it that way.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I believe this deserves a little bit of a sound bite.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Hang on one second for me.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go. Yeah, man, I'm. I'm
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: proud of him, man. You know, you watch a kid
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: snap his leg. And then, you know, he comes back and,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you know, at first he's walking with a limp. He's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: kind of getting back, but he's working hard and he's
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: coming back. And like I said, he's in way better
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: shape than me. Yo, that Spider-Man workout, that shit is
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: no joke. I thought I was, I came inside after
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I was done. I just laid on the ground for
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a good like 15 minutes. My wife was like, did
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you shower? I was like, no, I collapsed. But my
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: son did a significant, I'll put the numbers out there.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: In the 20 minutes, Tom Holland, by the way, can
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: do 27 rounds within 20 minutes. Um, and, uh, my son,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: he did, um, 15 rounds yesterday. I did 10. So,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I, I, I got, I gotta, I gotta
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: keep at least like stacking and adding one and doing
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: my best to, uh, you know, at least keep it
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: respectable between him and I, because I'm sure he'll be,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: he'll be getting close to that 20 number. And I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: don't think, I don't know if 15's ever in my,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: in my future. That shit is hard. Um, but yeah, man, um,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks, man, uh, I, you know, not a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: lot of news, but then today you get a, uh,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a podcast that drops with Kendrick Perkins and, um, Richard Jefferson.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: And I forget the, the, the woman who hosts it, um,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: forgive me. And what's the name of their podcast podcast?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Look it up for me.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I've actually never heard of this podcast. I'm going to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: assume it's Malika Andrews.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: No, it's not Malika Andrews. No, it's not her. It's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: not her. I know Malika Andrews. Kendrick Perkins podcast road
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: tripping there you go road tripping and it's Channing Fry
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson Kendrick Perkins and then those are co-hosts there
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you go shout to Ally let's make sure we don't
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: forget her but yeah I didn't get to listen to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the whole thing I got to listen to some of
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it on the way home and then it was Mets
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and then I was hopping on here and talking to
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you people but um Yeah, so Brunson, I fucking love
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: this guy. I fucking love this guy, man. I mean,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: he's just, he's all business. You know, there's no better
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: way than to just, you know, go ahead and quote
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: him directly. I went ahead and pulled this up. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: when asked about, you know, the whole... next season and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: whether that involves putting their most recent title victory in
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the back of their minds. Brunson replied, we have all
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: these people telling us how great we are. We won
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: in New York and everyone in New York is up
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: on their high horse. Everyone's saying that the best things
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: about us, even though in the middle of the year,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: they're probably saying the worst as well. When we were
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: two and nine, the Knicks had a stint, I want
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to believe in January where they went to a nine.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: So it was definitely like a roller coaster of a ride,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: but it's important for us to come into the season
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and be like, all right, that's over with, right? We
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to speak of the trophy. We don't want
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to talk about the trophy. And we don't want to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: see the trophy, right?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Nick, again, was talking about Jalen Brunson and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: trying to get the Knicks back to promise. I also
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: agree with this as well. It's something... That when you
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: do win, it's all great. But yeah, you've got to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: move on quick. And now you've got a chance to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: do the next best thing, which is to try and
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: run it back, do it again. And you have the
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: potential to, with all these guys right in the prime
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of their careers, have a legitimate shot at a dynasty.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: And if you're sitting there resting on the laurels of
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: one title, you're going to lose everything and it can
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: all be forgotten. You see Philly trying to load up.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: You see Boston trying to reload, trying to beat the Knicks.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And you have a chance to vanquish all those teams again.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, vanquish whoever is coming out of
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: the West, whether it be Oklahoma City or the Spurs,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: most likely. Or, you know, some team may come out
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: of nowhere and get there. But the Knicks have a
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: chance to do something even more special than they've already done.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: And they really should try to capitalize on that. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I respect Brunson's mindset on it without him really talking
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: about it as well. And I believe we got Nick
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: back here. We're back.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: We're back. Hold on. Hold on. There we go. There
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, man, a little technical difficulties, but we're back.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I heard the tail end of what you were saying
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: there at the end, Baum. Basically, you know, just talking
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: about the fact that we do have that opportunity to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: get back and get another championship. First time since the Warriors.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Nobody's been back-to-back since the Warriors either. And obviously, when
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you do win something like that, you put yourself in
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: an entire different echelon. So, for me personally... I just
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: love Brunson in his mindset. I love everything about the guy.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I love everything that he says. I just, it's the
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: exact type of guy that you need in your locker room,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you know, as the head of your snake, I'm going
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to continue to revel in this and just, and celebrate
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it just quite. I mean, definitely up to up through
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: opening night. And then even after that, up until, you know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: we hoist the trophy again next summer, I'm going to be,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: looking at people saying Nixon five and saying, well, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you still got to
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: beat the champs. But I really am beginning to believe,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I see Carl Anthony towns, the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: pictures of him, he looks like he's in fantastic shape.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You know, he's, he's looking to be able to get
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: up and down the floor and to be able to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: facilitate and be able to move his feet on defense.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, him being a little bit
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: lighter on his feet is a good thing. He's so strong.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Nobody's moving him. He's still a massive human being. And
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: then I think that Mike Brown is going to continue
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to evolve. I think, you know, Mikael Bridges is going
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to be playing without any real pressure and real agita
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: with him. I think Jose Alvarado matures into his role
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think that Deuce McBride might
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: need to get moved for a rim-running, rim-protecting center. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just excited to see what he's next going to do.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm so happy that our leader is the one
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: and only Jalen Marquise Brunson. Yo, what's up with... Dajon Love.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, if the Niners just couldn't, you know,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: find their way into any more content this offseason, is
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: this not like one of the wildest stories that you
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: have ever heard?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: So, a couple things. First and foremost, just on the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Niners part. No, no person wears that much gear. I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: don't wear that much Nick gear. No Nick player wears
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that much Nick gear. No 49ers player wears that much
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: 49ers gear as this guy does. Every time you see it,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, the shit with the helmet. Bro, okay, so
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, okay.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Yo, it's hilarious. The helmet now makes, and the headband.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense. Make way more sense. The fucking helmet
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: is hilarious because like, bro, what dude who's good who
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: plays for the fucking for plays professional football is out
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: on the beach with the helmet on running like fucking
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: slow ass routes and shit and with the quarterback who's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: throwing you just like lollipops like with nothing on it
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: i mean come.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: On man how crappy those routes were i gotta i
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: gotta tweet for you here though i gotta i gotta
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: i got a really funny tweet So the New York
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Post tweeted the mugshot of Dajon Love and his accomplice
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: earlier today. And it says, 49ers imposter is alleged accomplice
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: banned from dating apps as mugshot revealed. And this comes
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: from at Kirk Wong underscore, my guy Kirk up here
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: in Portland. And he quote tweets it with, The Rush
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Hour of Scammers. The two crying emojis. You saw it?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: That is my buddy Kirk up here in Portland.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's your boy?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my guy up here, Kirk.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's hilarious.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Dude, he's incredible. Like the absolute man. I lost it
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: when I saw that tweet this morning knowing it was him.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Doug, Doug, yeah. So I saw like a compilation of
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of different Rush Hour jokes. And I believed
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that one was in there. But okay, so first of all,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: his name. The fact that he made his name Dajon
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Love is hilarious. Like, this is like an SNL skit.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: It's too ridiculous. Listen, okay, this part has to be
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: said off the rip. I don't care how you feel
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: about this. I don't care if you disagree. This is
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: how I feel I'm saying this shit. To these ladies,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: these 20-something, like 26, I believe, ladies who gave... Over
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: $ 1 million to this man. I'm not saying you deserve this.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Nobody deserves to be scammed. But you're all fucking idiots.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You're idiots. I mean, first and foremost, Google is a thing.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: If a dude tells you that he is an NFL player, maybe,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: you know, go just Google his name and see. And
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: then also, like, If he's an NFL player, why is
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: he asking you for money? He's flexing. He's showing... So
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: to me, the best part that's come out of this
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: is that there's at least been two girls, and there's
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: more than that, but there's two that I've watched where
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it's been they are... Like, he tried to get them,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: but they were like, what is this bullshit? And they
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: have posted, like, the videos that he sent and everything. And,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man. Dude wasn't... He's not even...
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: He not even trying that hard. He's not some mastermind
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: con artist. The motherfucker said that, first of all, he
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: shows all his keys and he's like, here's the Lambo.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Here's the Corvette. Here's this. And they're all in the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: same key chain. So you're telling me that any time
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that he wants to go anywhere with one of these cars,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: he's bringing the keys to all of them in his
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: pocket and throwing them in the car? What kind of
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: fucking sense is that? It makes no sense. Then, at
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: one point, he said to old girl, he said, you know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: we own shares in three different Gucci stores. Gucci is
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: not a publicly traded company. Gucci owns the fucking stores.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: You don't own any shares in any of these stores.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: No one does. And then, he said, the one in
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: New York that we own, it's on Saks Fifth Avenue.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Yo! Yo! If you sent.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: That nigga some money, that's on you, yo. That is
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: your fault. I'm sorry, but come on, yo. Are you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? Come on, man. This dude is a
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: fucking legend. I'm sorry. He's kind of a legend, in
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: my opinion. He's a piece of shit. He's a scam artist,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: all those things. Come on, man. It's kind of hilarious
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: that this motherfucker was able to do this shit.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: You know who else tweeted a video about this? It's like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: you know, what not to do is our girl, Nita Kimes, man.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I saw that. It was great.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that video was amazing. She's basically like saying, use Google.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: You can go check the team's roster on the website. Like,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it's one of the easiest things on this planet to
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: find on the internet is literally go to the team's website,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: check the roster. Like even you can literally sort, literally
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: you could even filter by number. Right. This isn't difficult.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: This is one of those things. It's not even science,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: let alone rocket science.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you got so many people who they have, um,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you know, put up their stories, like I said, I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: saw those two women, and then I saw, like, another woman, like, posted, like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the messages between them, and she says to him, she's like,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: she's like, wait, like, do you have any, like, like, show,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: send me, like, a video of you in college, he's like, nah,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: you know, got hurt a lot in college, only played, like,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: one year, so not a lot of videos, but, like,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I'm a, you know, I got a, you know, the 49ers,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you know, they picked me up as a free agent,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and she was like, hold on, She's like, don't nobody
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: not play in college. And then all of a sudden
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: get picked up as a free agent. That's not how
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: football works. She's like, oh, he's like, oh, it's crazy.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: You going to try and tell me how the league works.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Like this motherfucker. And just like, he's talking about how
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: he went to go get a car. He's like, I
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: bought $ 115, 000 in cash. But he's like, I just didn't
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: think that they wouldn't do it for an extra $ 5, 000.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I bought like $ 90, 000 of my money.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I bought that little bit that you sent me. But
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I need a little bit more from you. Like what?
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Who? Who?
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I got to understand the mentality of the person who
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: meets this dude, starts talking to him, and is like, yeah, baby,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I got you, and starts sending him some money. Come on, man.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: These are voters. These are members of society. They might
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: have jobs where somebody else's overall safety and or well-being
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: depends on them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: We need to we need the women that did this shit.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: We need to make sure they're not in any sort
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: of public service. They shouldn't be allowed to vote. They
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be. They shouldn't even have kids, man. For real,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: because this shit is like, seriously, I don't want them
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: responsible for anybody. If you could fall for this shit,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you should not be responsible for another human ever. It's crazy, man.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious. But truthfully, it's sad. But I'm leaning into
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: the hilarity part, but it's fucking sad. Like, that you
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: could watch another. Like, there's so many. Obviously, this guy
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: didn't bat a thousand. So, so many women, the ones
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that are coming forward now, were like, what the fuck?
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: What is you talking about? But 28 of them, or
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: 26 of them, sent him over a million. I really...
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the details of this. Like,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I want to know, like, what was the largest amount and, like,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: what was the story behind why he needed it? I do.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I would love to actually know who did it, but
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I know that's not going to happen, and that's kind
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of cruel. But, yo, man, this guy, Dajon Love, all-time finesser. Master.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: A master at this. Bomb, you got anything else on Dajon?
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually going to say, like, I'm leaning
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: into the hilarity part of it, too, because it is
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: insanely funny, especially now that the Niners' first draft pick
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: for this year, Dajon Stripling, just changed his number to seven.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: That's real?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: But I didn't know that was real.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: No, that's real. It was real because that was his
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: high school number. But, you know, the Niners' beat writer,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Matt Barrow, tweeted, the last guy to wear it, Dajon Love.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So you're seeing the hilarity of it. The other hilarity
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: is the fake cake. Like, did you see the fake
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: birthday cake?
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: He got this fake birthday cake with the Niners uniform
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: with seven love on it. It was unreal funny. Like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm 100% leaning in clarity of it too.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Cause now it's like, you see a meme, like the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Rams loading up on all these guys just to stop
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Dejan love. Oh, he's been traded to the Rams or
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: the cat. And now he signed with the Cowboys and
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: then the Cowboys released it. Now he's signing with the lions.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Like all the memes and stuff are hilarious. So I'm
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: absolutely in the hilarity of it all. But it is sad,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: in the same token.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I just looked up the cake. That's fucking great, yo.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: This guy is, come on, man. All-time finesser, yo. What
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: a fucking, I mean, Jesus, what a piece of shit.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, fuck. I mean, if he's this good at this,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: you're telling me he couldn't fucking be really good at
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: something that would make him some money legitimately? I mean,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: come on, bro. Just sad, sad, very sad. In other
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: football news, Aaron Donald has unretired, much to the surprise
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: of nobody other than maybe our friend Tom Borns. And,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he now is back with the Rams. The
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Rams are, they're creating a super team. You know, the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: last time, this is Durant, you know, going to the Warriors.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Now you've got to ask yourself
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the question, are the Rams unbeatable? I mean, they're the
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: clear favorite, the clear betting favorite, and a lot of
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: people felt like they were one of the best teams
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: in the NFL last year. They just felt a little
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: bit short. And they go out and they add the
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: two preeminent inside and outside rusher of the last generation.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And the last time we saw either of them play,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: they both looked like they were still at the top
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: of their game. They're going to be tough to beat, man. Hey,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: I know they're in your division. As a Niners fan,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I know that you guys will be going all the
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: way down under to face them in the first game
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: of the season. What do you think about the Rams
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: and their additions, and do you think they're unbeatable?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's unbeatable in the NFL. There's a lot
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: of parity. Injuries happen. But the Rams look very good
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: on paper. I mean, to me, though, you know, I'm
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: going to tie this back to the Knicks for a second.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: The reigning Super Bowl champs are in the division. So
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: in order to be the champ, you've got to beat
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the champ. And as of now, the Seahawks took two
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of the last two games from the Rams last year.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: So until I see the Rams do it, then the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are still a team to beat. So the Rams,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, are very beatable. But they do it
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: very good on paper. But there are some questions. And
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the main one, or the main two I have are this.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: As much of a physical freak as Aaron Donald is,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: and as great of a player as he was when
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: he hung it up, he's missed two years. We don't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: know what kind of shape he's coming back to.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's bullshit. Yes, we do.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: No, we don't.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: No, we see him. Okay, maybe he's lost a step
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: due to age. That's possible. But as far as the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: physical condition that he's in, he still works out like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: a fucking madman. I've seen him do drills where he's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: like fighting some guy with a knife.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but has he played football in two years is
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: my question. He's got to get back into football shape.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: The other big question for the Rams right now is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the status of their number one receiver, Fukunokua. Is he
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: going to get suspended? If so, how many games? He's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: also very banged up right now. He may miss some
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: time due to injury. I mean, granted, the Rams still
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: have Devontae Adams, who had, you know, despite down catches
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: and yards last night, still had 14 touchdowns. Like, you know,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: he's still crazy good and still playing at a very
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: high level. And the Rams also really offset when Puka
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: missed time last year. They ran a ton of 13
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: personnel and were very successful at it. One receiver, three
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: tight ends. And they were able to manufacture a lot
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: of passing touchdowns that way. You know, Matt the Stafford
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: threw for 45 and we thought he was all dead
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: going into last season. And all he did was come
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: back and win MVP. But, you know, he's another year
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: older now. We don't know. But those are significant questions
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: surrounding that team. And there's still some very good other
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: defenses in that division who can beat them.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I mean, it's a great division.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: And obviously in the NFL, there is nothing that is
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion for sure. They look really, really good.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you, if you just look at that
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: offense and if it could be close to what it
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: was last year, and then you add those two guys
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: in the defensive line, it seems pretty unbeatable. It really does.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: But obviously there's a lot of variables. Nakua, I just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: read there was a, He had another allegation or not
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: just it wasn't like a different girl, but from that
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: same ex-girlfriend, a new abuse claim that came out today.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: He does look like he's headed towards a suspension. I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: don't really see how he doesn't end up being suspended. And,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the fact that the legal process of this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: is probably going to take a little bit longer to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: play out. And typically what the NFL NFL does is
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: they throw their hands up until the legal process is done.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: or maybe just suspend you or put you on the
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: commissioner's list until a legal process is done, doesn't look
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: good for him. And then, you know, obviously he might
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: need some of that time with the injuries. It just
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: goes to show you that you never know. Because, look,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say, like, I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: can see an abuser when I know one. And this
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: is all allegedly at this point. We don't know if
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: this definitely happened. We've definitely had situations before where, you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: prominent athletes have been accused of things that they end
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: up being proven not to be done. And then, obviously,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of times where, And always, we should start
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: off by believing the woman and giving her the benefit
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: of the doubt. But it just goes to show you,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I think most people would say, you know, again, I'm
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: not going to say that I can spot a domestic
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: abuser from a mile away, but you wouldn't really think
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: that Puka Nakul was necessarily that guy. And Unfortunately, the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: allegations say that he is thus far, but they are
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: just allegations. We'll see how that plays out for them.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: But I think that that's going to be the biggest
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: story this year in the NFL, really, is Patrick Mahomes
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and his comeback and the Rams, are they a true
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: super team? Does this look like when the Warriors got
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett? And we knew pretty early on in that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: season that if they're healthy, nobody's beating them. Oh, one
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: more basketball thing that I want to ask you before
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: we get up out of here. Um, no, uh, no,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: no worse people in the world today. I'm going to,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: we're going to take a week off from that. I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: feel like I've been being mean. Um, but, um, I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: got to ask you this cause I heard them, uh, it's, um,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: we're still in this from, um, club five 20. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: heard them earlier. Um, I guess one of their people
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: on their chat asked him a question and said, um, who,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: who you got prime Jason kid or prime Russell Westbrook.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, for me, this is pretty easy. It's prime Jason kid. Um, Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: One guy, you know, one guy can shoot the ball
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit better. I liked that kid was a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: lot more of a distributor, more of a facilitator. Rush
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: tried to do his own thing. For me, it's J kid.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: You said one guy can shoot the ball a little
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: bit better. Which one do you mean?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Kid. I mean, not yet. Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I was, I was hoping you, because listen, that's the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: thing is that Jason kid flipped that narrative on him.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: At first they used to call him a sin kid
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: because he had no J when he first came into
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: And then you got so much better at it.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: And I just, He retired as number two overall in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: three-point makes, I believe. Something crazy like that. Jason Kidd
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: is super high on that list. Go look it up.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Jason Kidd is super high on that list, man. He's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: like top. I want to believe he's definitely top five
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: in three-pointers made just because of the volume that he
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: was shooting towards the end of his career.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: He is down to number 20 now. He has my
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: birth year in made threes, 1,988. Yeah, he's been passed
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: by a lot of active players. Actually, you know who
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: just passed him this year? You ready for these two guys?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway Jr. and Eric Gordon. That's crazy with how
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: the game has evolved.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Game's changed so much. Yeah, I'm looking at this, and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: it's like a lot of these guys, he retired before
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: all these guys that I'm looking at right now. Except
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: for Jason Kidd. I think Ray Allen probably played a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: little bit longer than he did.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Or at least very close. Let's see.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: He played 19 years. Yeah. He played 19 years in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know when both of them started. I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: know Ray Allen came in at 96. I mean, look,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: he's a 40% shooter. The point being is that, you know,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: he really improved his ability to shoot three. And I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: honestly think, you know, it's funny because Like, they ended
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: up coming to, like, ah, you just want to win
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: a chip. And listen, obviously Jeff Teague, guy made it
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to the NBA. You know, he's a way greater basketball
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: player than I could ever dream of being, for sure,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: no doubt. You would like to think that he probably
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: knows the game a lot better than I do. But
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: quite often I hear some of the takes that he
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: makes on that show, and they're so, like, they're so, like,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: just about, like, ah, well, you got to get your
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: money or look at the stats and, like, this guy
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: he kills, he had all these triple doubles, MVP, all
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: this other stuff. I'm sorry, man. To me, this is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: a perfect example of like, this is the question that
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: you ask when you want to know how old is somebody,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: how much do they know the history of the game,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and how much do they really know ball? Because in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: my opinion, and I know that statistically, we've never seen
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: a player like Russell Westbrook. People made a big deal
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: all those years about what Oscar Robinson did, and then
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook just said, okay, I'm going to just do this.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have a stretch where I just do
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: this every fucking season. Watch. I'm sorry, man. I don't
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: think they're even close. I think Jason Kidd is such
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: a better basketball player than Russell Westbrook.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: 100%. You saw me answer that with no hesitation. It's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: 100% Jason Kidd. Kidd was a way better facilitator than
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Russ was. Obviously, he averaged all the triple-doubles and stuff,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: but he didn't do it facilitating. Kid bringing the ball
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: up was so different than Russ.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: But the argument of he didn't do that facilitating is,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: then how did he average over 10 assists for all
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: those years?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I just think it ends up being because, like, Russell Westbrook,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: he's the ultimate compiler. I hate to say it. I'm
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: not saying Russ ain't a great player. Russ is a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: great player.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: We love Russ. We had a nice little tribute to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Russ a couple episodes ago when he announced his retirement.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Dude plays hard and all that,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and he's a great player. He's an all-time player, first
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, no doubt. He's a compiler. I've
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: always felt like he cannot be your first or second
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: best player on a championship team, and he's never seemed
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: like a player who does well trying to be the second, third,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: or fourth fiddle And everywhere he goes, it seems like
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: he is a good contributor. But then they don't want him.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Do you remember a couple years ago in the playoffs?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: I forget which series those were in, but it was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: like game five. He forced a turnover, which was, yeah,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: with Denver. They would have won the game and he,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: for some strange reason, decided to go for a layup
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: and like completely bricked it. And then it ended up
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: just going back the other way. And I can't remember
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: if they But I can't remember exactly what happened after that.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: All I know is it cost him another game.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, man.
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  Speaker 2: Kid would never.
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  Speaker 1: Kid was way more cerebral. He was a much better distributor.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: He had a much better jump shot. He was more clutch.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: And people forget, like, listen, we've never seen an athlete
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: at the point guard position like Russell Westbrook other than
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: maybe Derrick Rose. Jason Kidd, when he first came into
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the league, I mean– Just flying him. Go watch his
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: stats when he was at Cal. Flying up and down
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the floor, laying kids straight to the rack, punching one
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: every once in a while, crazy passes. When he was
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: on that team and he had Kenyon Martin and he
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: had Vince Carter, that shit, that was Lob City before
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Lob City.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: And Keith Van Horn, too. Solid, solid power forward.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Kerry Kittles. But specifically the lobs to Vince
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and Kenyon were crazy.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dude, K-Mart was freaking in of his own right. Like, man,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: he was so sick at Cincinnati. And then, you know,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be in Cincinnati too.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: But Jake, his passes were just insane. Like, some of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: the dimes he would drop, you're just like, what human
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: in their own right would do this? Or in their
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: own way can do this? And, you know, Steve Nash,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: you know, it kind of paved the way for Steve Nash.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. You could definitely see, you know, there's a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: lot of guys that came after him. I mean, he
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: was a big point guard for that time. And, yeah, man,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: don't sleep on Jason Kidd, yo. Don't sleep on Jason Kidd.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Jason Kidd, he won co-rookie of the year with Penny,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: didn't he?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Let me check that just to make sure.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I believe that they won co-rookie of the year. And, yeah,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: don't sleep on Jason Kidd. And I got to see
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Jason Kidd as a Knick at the end of his
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: career in that year that the Knicks went and won
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: 52 games.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: It was co-rookie of the year with Grant Hill.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, Grant Hill. Right, right, right, right, right.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Which, the biggest what-if ever, fucking Grant Hill.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: He rose up there for me, though, too.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: We got to do a next episode, but let's do
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: a top five what-if team. Top five what-if team.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that, yeah.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: NBA what-if team. Yeah, so we'll do that next episode.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I got prime kid over Russ all day. I got
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: to see prime Jason Kidd. I'm sorry, I got to
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: see Jason Kidd at the end of his career when
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: he was with the Knicks, and the Knicks were the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: best team that they had been in probably a 20-year span,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: them and Mike Woodson with a bunch of old guys
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: and guys who would soon be coaches thereafter, and Melo, basically.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: The Knicks were, I think, at the 2C that year.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: They won 52 games. They lost in the second round
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: to Indiana. Who will ever forget Roy Hibbert just denying
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Melo at the rim over and over again? But Kidd,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: even in those years when at that point he couldn't move,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: he's just a spot-up shooter. But his smarts as far
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: as getting guys in the right position, and there would
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: be times where he would be trying to get Melo
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, the ball would get swung to him,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and he would barely touch his hands, and he would
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: get it to Melo right in exactly the spot that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: he needed in to go ahead and do his work.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: So you definitely, definitely got to put some respect on
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: prime Jason Kidd. And, yeah, next year we're going to
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: do that top five what-ifs team. Baum, before we get
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: out of here, you got anything else, my man?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I got nothing for you at this point. No late
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: breaking news or anything like that. But I'm also with you.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: It is prime J.K. over Russ, and it's not even close.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Amen. You know, if you don't know, you better ask somebody.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: And if you don't know about it yet, then you
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: need to learn. It's your boy, NIC. Peace.