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WNBA, Transphobia & The Money: Brought to You By Listener Submissions! · The Regulars

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  What do you know? We're in the same place.
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  What a time to be alive. It's a Friday.
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  We got a lot of listener questions and nuanced conversations we're
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  gonna have. I'm absolutely pissed off in a way that I can't even
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  remember. This is gonna be a lot of fun, Tanya. I'm Cody Decker.
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  We're The Regulars. And you? I'm Tanya Rae Fox, and I'm here— I'm here
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  to essentially, uh, guide you emotionally and spiritually through
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  this entire show. So let's see how it goes. Cheers. Let's do this.
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  Look at us back on the West Coast, the best coast, exactly where we all
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  belong and should be. Tonya Rae Fox, Cody Decker, the regulars, and all of you.
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  welcome. Welcome to the shit show. Also,
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  reminder once again, If you're watching on Instagram and
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  middle of this frame here, all you got to do is pop out of it
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  and pop back in. People in the chat, if you are listening right now and
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  other people pop in and they're like, it's not fixing, tell them how
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  to fix it so that they can see our gorgeous faces. Very simple.
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  All you have to do is the following action. Go to Tonya Rae Fox's
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  specific Instagram page. You'll see her thing has a big red circle around it,
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  says live. You click on it. And if you type in a comment, it might
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  zoom in. Just get right back out to Tanya's page, click it right back in,
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  and you're going to see a full widescreen version yet again. Now, yes,
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  I'm not thrilled we're opening the show with this. I mean,
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  that is necessary information. We're getting more and more people in Instagram and they
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  get so frustrated and I'm like, I do get it. I do understand. At the
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  same time, because we can't really show that, shoot this in, you know,
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  portrait mode. You know what I should do? I should do a PSA on my
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  Instagram, like with a reel. That's like explains that this happened and like pin
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  it so it's always there so that people know. Because again, I'm, I'm the social
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  media, I'm the driving force of our internet presence. That is 100% true.
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  My internet presence has flat out died down so much in the last 8
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  years. Funny enough, better for your mental health. The more I've gotten into sports
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  media, the more I pulled away from social media. Yeah, understandable.
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  Wholeheartedly. Like, wow. Which is— I know it should be an oxymoron, but like,
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  I was really popular on social media when I was a pro baseball player.
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  Sure you were. No, I was not. I know that specifically on Twitter. I was
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  never actually all that popular on Instagram, now I think about it. But Twitter was
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  its own— was its own place for an ecosystem where— yeah,
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  where there were people who were Twitter popular. And by the way, that would get
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  people jobs. Like back when Twitter was in its prime,
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  people were getting like writing gigs for TV from Twitter. They were getting sports
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  media jobs from Twitter. Then it became TikTok. That was the place where you would
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  sort of blow up. What I liked about Twitter at the time, because it was—
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  it was— it was literally you had the opportunity to really like kind of show
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  your intelligence. Kind of. You, you had to use words. And at
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  the time, like, how wonderful, people are using their words and getting recognized.
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  And, you know, of course at the time I didn't really see the bastardization and
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  how evil it could be used for, even though I knew it could be used
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  for something. But listen, now Twitter's a shit show, and now everything's kind of moved
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  over to TikTok, and now TikTok is a shit show, and everything's moved over to
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  Instagram. And are we pretending that Instagram is not a fucking shit
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  show? Uh, Threads is like, you know, slowly but surely becoming the same level
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  of toxic as Twitter. Uh, the only difference is that like I actually do I,
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  I don't know how people use Twitter anymore. You don't get your, like, comments,
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  don't get information, and like, even just trying to navigate your own
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  comment section anymore, like, it doesn't prioritize anybody that you actually follow.
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  At least Threads still does that. So whatever. But we're not here to talk
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  about that. We're here to talk about the show that our followers helped us build.
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  That's right. And by the way, I can't stress enough how much I love doing
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  this show and how happy I am that you're back. And I mean that wholeheartedly.
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  Like, I'm very fucking happy that here. I'm very happy that
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  I'm— I can say fuck again with a microphone in front of me. I can't
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  do it for 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. Absolute nightmare. And you
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  have no idea how fucking hard it's been lately. But yeah,
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  I'm really glad. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Oh, get it all out.
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  Ah, so good. So good to actually feel alive again. But no,
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  it's just we got a lot to cover today. And by the way, I really
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  liked the kind of theme of today's show. Yeah, we've never done this. It's more
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  of like a— it's kind of an AMA, ask us anything type of situation.
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  And I love what's in this rundown. And also what's
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  in this rundown is gonna fucking finally do it. It's gonna finally break
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  me because the shit in the rundown today is just very good
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  nuanced conversation that is not happening. Yeah, fucking anywhere.
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  Um, mind-boggling that it's not. That being said,
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  really excited about the show. But more importantly, before we get to that, before we
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  get to our first headline, I just want to know, how was the trip in
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  Boston? How was the family? How is How is your mom? Is my dad still
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  haunting her? All the things. All the things. Uh, your dad has
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  chilled out for the summer, which is good. So she was great. She was
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  able to chill out for her birthday week. Um, it was great. You know,
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  I kept it really low-key. A lot of times in the summer trips I do—
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  I'm bopping around, I go into the city, I do all that stuff. I went
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  into it with a, with a, uh, a cough. I don't know if you remember
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  that, but I do. You were not feeling good. I had a lung infection,
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  so I went into it on antibiotics. Didn't know that one of the side effects
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  of antibiotics is, uh, like sun sensitivity. So antibiotics,
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  dude, fuck you up. I got fucked up. I had like— I
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  broke out in a rash, had to get a thing for that. Wait a second,
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  you were on a fucking— on a boat every day? Well,
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  so it was like a week in, I would say like maybe 5 or 6
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  days in, and then once I— that was the case, I would wear my bathing
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  suit and sit in the bathing suit under the like bimini
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  on the boat because I literally couldn't go in the sun. It was a real
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  disaster. Like, I couldn't be poolside the way I wanted to be, whatever. But I
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  was with family, got to see my friends. That's all that matters. So those are
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  the rejuvenating things. Got to see my, you know, my little best friends, you know,
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  their kids who are like my nieces and nephews. You know the deal.
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  Um, but you know, nothing really rejuvenates
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  me quite as much as being, uh, back in the studio. I actually am really
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  happy to be back together with the gang.
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  Mocha's here. Mocha, yell to the people that you're here. Mocha! He back,
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  baby! We're back, baby! And he's 28 now.
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  28? You're, you're like an adult, dude. Like, you— I hate to be that guy,
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  but I got married right around that time. Late 20s.
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  And then 5 years from now, I got divorced from that time. 30 is the
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  new 20. 30 is the new— you know, I'm 39 right now, and, uh,
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  my birthday will be in January, and I, I, I'm not 29.
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  I'm definitely not. I'm definitely 39. And I've— buddy, I have— this
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  39 years, I have lived fucking centuries in this amount of time,
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  and I feel like it's starting to wear in. Yeah, but it also— the COVID
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  years, they say we get to like not count those towards our age, so you
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  get to take a couple years off. Funny you say that, those doubled my age.
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  Well, that was, you know, a personal choice. No, there was a lot that happened
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  in COVID because— sure, yeah, COVID was nuts. We'll get into it one of these
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  days. Someday, maybe perhaps that'll be a special episode. Dude, I, I have—
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  my COVID stories are nuts. Lord dump episode,
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  maybe someday. That's actually not a bad idea when the news is slower, when we
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  perhaps as a And maybe a 1-year anniversary show. Maybe,
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  like, we'll find— there's our 1-year anniversary show, by the way, is going to be
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  like right at the Super Bowl. Fuck yeah. Well, that's awesome for a lot of
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  reasons. One, because I'm looking forward to it because I have no— Radio Row
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  is going to be here and I might be very lucky. I have no idea.
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  Yeah, but I, I, I might get very lucky that I might not
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  have to step fucking foot in it. Right. I, I'm really hopeful because, you know,
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  we're, we're the fan in LA. Yeah. I'm hoping we just are able to use
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  our own studio. Like, why not? Like, dude, we're here. Bring Radio Row to us.
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  I know it's tough though, because then they have like, they have people doing the
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  rounds and that's like— but here's the truth and this is the 100% truth.
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  I appreciate what Radio Row is and getting over. The car wash sucks. It's not—
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  I don't think it's good radio. I think it's dog shit. I agree. You're going
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  to have to convince the fan of that is the problem. Well, they listen to
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  everything I say. All right. No, it's going to be
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  It's going to be cool because here's what I'm excited about for Radio Row.
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  For me and you, it's— I want to bring Radio Row here. Yeah, like here
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  to our studio, to our pool. We should have Radio Row pool parties, specials.
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  We'll do like— we can— we could host a like Welcome to L.A. type event,
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  have people here. And if Lamar is in the Super Bowl, like, we got to
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  get Lamar here one day. If he's not in the Super Bowl, we got to
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  get Lamar here one day. If— well, he'll be here either way, right? If he's
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  not in the Super Bowl, he'll be here. And is there anybody he should be
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  talking to more than yours truly? There's no other person on planet Earth That
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  honestly, I shouldn't even be on that episode. He should be sitting here in my
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  seat and he could be the regular that day. Yeah, that's actually— imagine, oh my
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  God, the regulars with Lamar Jackson and Tiny Ray Fox. Perfect.
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  I'm even being replaced on my own show. I hate to think it could be
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  our greatest show yet, but— Well, thanks. I've already been replaced. That was fast.
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  Fuck, that was real fast. I'm just trying to set him up for his post-career
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  media career. Hostile work environment. Hostile work environment. Okay, Tanya, so we got a lot
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  to talk about and I really, really liked your ideas on today's show. You decided
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  to put the show out to the people. A lot of the people out there
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  went ahead and gave their opinions on what we should
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  talk about. And I gotta say, the things we're talking about today,
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  I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of what this rundown is. Yeah,
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  we have really good viewers,
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  followers, people who engage with our stuff, whether it's online or actually watching the show.
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  And it's all stuff that I think that you and I would have enjoyed
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  talking about. Obviously, I couldn't fit every single suggestion
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  in there, 'cause we actually got a lot. So I picked out kind of ones
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  that were repeats from people, and/or kind of broke up some of the monotony
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  of the intensity of some of the things we're talking about. Talking about. So,
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  uh, everybody will get shouted out if we use the topic. Absolutely.
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  Let's kick it off. Um, number one, this was
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  the most popular request we got, was, uh, the Sophie Cunningham
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  mess in some capacity. Oh, you mean the number one story in America
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  right now? It's not. Probably should be though. Um, it is pretty big
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  online. God forbid that actually translate into the world,
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  but, um, The, the whole Sophie Cunningham thing is—
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  it's become— it's begun to have different branches coming off of it.
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  So, uh, this was suggested— the, the suggestion
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  from Century Got Bars said Sophie Cunningham and her outspoken views
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  on being anti-trans but dodging the presser after the Seattle game and,
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  uh, in her— the rally in her name refused to answer questions,
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  yet her Black teammates were made to face the scrutiny with Coach
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  White. This was also suggested by Kicking It with Jazz.
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  And what, what happened was there was this weird, you know,
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  pro or anti-trans in
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  sports rally in support
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  of Sophie Cunningham because they were supporting her that she's anti-trans girls in sports.
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  And not only was it made clear that Caitlin
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  Clark and Sophie Cunningham were not going to be made available for non-basketball questions postgame,
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  Clark was listed as one of the Fever players originally available postgame, but they
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  added Kelsey Mitchell instead. So to Century
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  God Bar's point, they had 2 Black women Fever players
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  and Stephanie White answering questions on behalf of these 2 white women who are at
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  the center of controversy constantly. The Storm owner
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  who interacted with fans who were supporting Sophie
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  Cunningham in it— listen,
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  definitely an aggressive way she exchanged
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  with these 2 teenage girls who were depicting— had shirts depicting XX
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  and XY chromosomes, who said Keaton approached
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  them, cursed, and called them insane during
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  Tuesday night's game against the Indiana Fever. Well, they are. So couldn't agree
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  more with her, quite honestly. I completely agree. I think it's totally appropriate to tell
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  teenagers who are pro, you know, who are against
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  trans rights. Yeah, there's nothing— there's nothing more cool than being truly,
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  truly truly against the most vulnerable community
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  and smallest community that might exist on this planet.
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  Yeah, I— your fucking brain calling them insane is
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  melted. Calling you not insane is really funny. Fuck you is really the thing.
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  Fuck you also. Like, oh my God. And so she got— she got suspended.
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  And in response to a post about the apology
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  that was issued by the Storm, Cunningham wrote on
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  X, Truly embarrassing of the co-owner.
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  Unfortunately shows the type of leader she is. So this bitch is tripling the
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  fuck down on being an absolute piece of shit. And real quick, didn't have
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  the fucking balls to go to a press conference and say shit.
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  Just fucking typing like a keyboard. Where's the— how about this? Where's this girl?
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  Where's this— where's this girl at? Yeah, this girl's only at— only there when
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  there's no fucking consequences, huh? Oh no, when it's a— when it's a fellow Black
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  woman in the league in front of her that she can taunt. But, but once
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  it comes to actually having to speak to the media and take accountability for the
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  shit show she started. Hey, get to the mic. No, let's get to the mic
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  and tell us how much you love the support of the anti-trans rally that showed
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  up for you. Or tell them, tell them that you don't support. But oh
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  no, no, you're gonna get— you're gonna wait for the apology from the Storm co-owner,
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  who by the way didn't say shit to you, said something to 2 teenage girls,
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  but okay. And you're gonna talk your shit from behind that, and then you're gonna
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  get back out there and you're gonna go let Mm, yeah, that's exactly right.
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  You're not tough. You're actually the antithesis of tough. That's actually embarrassing
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  shit. That's cowardly little shit. And on top of it, at least get
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  some balls and get in front of it. On top of it, Cody, to suck
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  at basketball, the gall to be this pathetic, this hateful,
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  this much of a like absolutely craven fucking loser,
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  right? She— this is the most attention she's ever gotten in her life for anything
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  related to playing basketball. She's never been a superstar. Better get all into
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  that MAGA grift. You better get into it now because that MAGA grift will be
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  dying pretty soon. You know, they're running out of time. They're kind of sick of
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  Riley Gaines. They need their new Riley Gaines. That's right. They got her going to
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  pop in, right? So because at least this Riley Gaines played an actual
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  sport. The other Riley Gaines came in 5th in a race one time. Yes.
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  So at least you're getting a pro athlete this time, or actually
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  an athlete of any semblance. And this one got work done to her face that
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  made her look no longer like a thumb. Riley Gaines unfortunately couldn't stop looking like
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  a thumb with googly eyes glued onto it. I loved her performance in the— in,
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  um, in, um, specifically in that— in the cave scene in,
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  in, um, The Odyssey. Oh yes, she was great in that. She actually was really
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  good. They made her look really tall when she was going— when she was like
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  saying the prayers to Poseidon. Yes, good shit. Incredible stuff. And I had no
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  idea she could house down that many. So I kind of, kind of taking
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  back a couple of things I'm saying, I guess. Yeah. So, uh, they've got their
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  new ambassador. The, the thing I think that you and I, where we
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  can really hold down this conversation best, is In another aspect
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  of it that was proposed by a couple other people for a topic,
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  Liquid81, one of my followers on Threads who loves our
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  content, Janae Danielle, she said,
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  I'd love to hear a dedicated and nuanced discussion on how the WNBA used
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  to be the one league dedicated to social justice and inclusivity,
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  so much that it forced the dream owner to sell.
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  Now, by the way, it wasn't long ago. It wasn't. Now then, there's— now there's
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  an openly transphobic player who motivated an anti-trans protest leading
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  to the Storms owner's suspension, intentionally stokes racial tension,
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  and is somehow the featured player commentator for the USA Network
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  coverage. When did the values change? And following up on that,
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  our other follower Omar Zahn said, would love to hear your take
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  on MAGA's obsession with dealing Uh, with,
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  uh, derailing the WNBA with their agenda and blatant
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  transphobia. I know you've made videos on this before, but I just feel
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  like you always bring a very real and necessary voice to these conversations.
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  And I believe he's talking to me and you. Uh, no, I believe specifically
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  to you. Well, because you do more videos on that than I do.
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  I don't— we haven't talked about this a lot on the show. We have.
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  We— no question we have. That's not something that we have— that I've done only.
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  Like, oh no, no, we've done it. I've just sadly— I don't have the social
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  media presence of like doing the video straight to video. I just
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  don't— I'm a straight to video gal. But no, that's something you— that's something you—
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  but it is a skill you have that you are astonishingly good at. Thank you.
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  I have— you and I share a lot of similar
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  views on a lot of these things. Let's start with you.
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  I honestly, I know what your opinion is, but let's start with
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  you and let's just have a discussion on this because, yes, I think this is—
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  I don't think the conversation is all that nuanced. I do appreciate asking
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  about the nuance of the conversation. I don't think there's nuance. I think she wants
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  us to have a more— like, I think when they— a lot of times when
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  people are asking for nuance, they're asking us to actually have a discussion that surrounds
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  these topics beyond just the outrage. Okay, we got our outrage
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  out of the way, right? Now we're talking about what's actually happening. And what's actually
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  happening is there's a twofold thing, which is that the entire country,
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  across industries, across women's sports, men's sports, across outside
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  of sports, is becoming increasingly more loudly racist, loudly transphobic,
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  homophobic. Yes. Loudly bigoted and fascist.
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  The increase in the relationship between billionaires
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  who own and run all these leagues and the government.
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  So we're now living in this sort of oligarchical system that's always existed
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  but has been exacerbated by the— by the significantly worse
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  than it's ever been in my lifetime. I never— I never— I never thought there'd
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  be a day where I would look back at 1980s Reaganomics going like, the good
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  old days. Oh yeah. Because you got to understand, like, there were films made,
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  movies made, sci-fi movies made specifically about how bad
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  things were in the late '80s around Reaganomics. Like, one of my favorite John Carpenter
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  movies is They Live. It's a movie about aliens that are entirely the ruling class
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  of our entire world. And it's entirely about— it's entirely about Reaganomics.
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  Yeah. It's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant film.
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  What I would give to live in 19 goddamn '87
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  at this point, because this is the worst reality
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  America has had, no question, in my lifetime. But I feel like
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  we've actually reverted back to the 1940s. Yeah, it's— I'm sorry. You know what?
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  I'm going to go before that. I'm going to say 1935. I'm going to say
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  before FDR showed up. Yeah. And in some ways,
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  even in that space, we almost can't even go backwards because
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  we have learned so much from that, that for us to regress to this
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  place is, uh, it's his own sort of shame.
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  Um, I feel like I'm gonna sneeze, so— well, if you'd like,
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  go ahead and sneeze and I'll just take over. Um, there is something you said
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  that I think is so ungodly. Here's the nuance of the
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  conversation. Why is the league kind of turning into this?
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  Why is the league getting away from its social justice thing? You already hit the
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  nail on the head. It's— sports have been commandeered, and, well,
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  it was already, as you mentioned, already owned by every billionaire humanly possible.
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  Now we're getting expansions in these leagues, we're getting new TV deals,
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  and we're getting an influx of more billionaire hedge funds. All billionaire hedge
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  funds are not necessarily— and hear me out before, before anybody bites my head
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  off— they're not necessarily MAGA. Not necessarily.
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  I want to specify there's a conservatism to them and whatever else,
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  but it's not necessarily a MAGA. It's not necessarily MAGA. What it is
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  is opportunistic billionaires who know an opportunity
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  when they see one. Cravenly late-stage capitalists who have no problem taking full advantage
• 19:04
  of MAGA because MAGA is doing everything they would ever
• 19:08
  dream of because they're making their profit margins even larger.
• 19:12
  This is where sports
• 19:15
  loses me entirely as a fan. Yeah,
• 19:19
  this is where everything goes out the window.
• 19:23
  Sports are played by people. Sports are viewed by people. We have removed all semblance
• 19:27
  of humanity from our sports. Now, the same people that were screaming,
• 19:32
  keep your politics out of my sports, are so desperate to have their politics
• 19:36
  in our sports. And their politics are not politics.
• 19:41
  Their politics are actually just— how do I put
• 19:45
  this— a way for people to step,
• 19:48
  step on somebody else's head to call themselves big.
• 19:52
  There is a bully nature to this, and it's actually the saddest
• 19:56
  type of bully nature. It's the bullied. It's the people who couldn't
• 20:00
  do things that want to bully. It's very ungodly,
• 20:04
  sad, and little. But I understand the profit
• 20:08
  margin aspect of this to a point. Like you said, it's late-stage capitalism.
• 20:12
  At the end of the day, they're going to go where the money is,
• 20:14
  not where the morals are. There's not a single billionaire that got to be a
• 20:17
  billionaire because they're moralistically good. Not one. I'll wait.
• 20:21
  I'll sit here and wait all day until someone can tell me Point out one
• 20:25
  billionaire who isn't fucking an insane,
• 20:28
  evil person, period. I've met 2. They're the most evil, insane people
• 20:33
  I've ever met in my life. Yeah, it's— you can't possibly become a billionaire without
• 20:36
  exploitation. We all know that. It's literally not possible. And there's another aspect to
• 20:41
  this that I think also applies specifically to the WNBA right now, which is that
• 20:46
  we sometimes think things are coincidental that aren't.
• 20:50
  And just as this really deeply anti-trans
• 20:55
  push has existed over the last like 5 years, but specifically since
• 20:59
  the original Trump administration and then continuing into this, right? There has
• 21:03
  been this concerted effort to derail women's sports by using trans
• 21:07
  girls and women as the cudgel to do it, invoking them as a way
• 21:11
  to invade women's bodies, women's sports, women's safe spaces
• 21:15
  by saying, well, we have to test your bodies. We have to make sure that
• 21:18
  there's no men here No biological men playing with you
• 21:22
  to endanger you. Meanwhile, every single woman who's ever played sports has been
• 21:26
  assaulted by a coach or like harassed by a coach. Yeah, but we don't need
• 21:29
  to, you know, we don't have to talk about that, Tanya. Let's not talk about
• 21:32
  it or legislate that. Let's make sure trans people are somehow demonized,
• 21:35
  right? So this— so the, the WNBA is, is getting—
• 21:39
  is gaining steam on its own. We are already seeing record,
• 21:42
  you know, crowds and everything else at these events. We're seeing
• 21:46
  the Dream being held accountable, that they're gonna— the owner's gonna force to be sold,
• 21:50
  all those things. Suddenly Caitlin Clark comes along,
• 21:54
  and there was a real effort to create
• 21:58
  the kind of mania around Caitlin Clark that we have not seen around a
• 22:02
  woman's star in a really long time. That was not
• 22:06
  an accident. Nope. That was not a— like, yes,
• 22:09
  there are some people that were pulled in, the media and fans, whatever else,
• 22:12
  but realistically The opportunity and what was— what the desired effect
• 22:16
  was from people who pull the strings was let's bring more eyeballs to the WNBA.
• 22:20
  We're going to bring everybody into the WNBA. Yeah, sure. They're going
• 22:24
  to, you know, some people will make their money, the billionaires will invest. Great.
• 22:26
  Everybody wins. And we'll dismantle women's sports from the fucking
• 22:30
  outside in. This will take the entire fucking league of these Black
• 22:35
  queer women that have built up the most socially
• 22:39
  progressive public league in the country. And we
• 22:42
  will fucking dismantle it, and it will become exactly what
• 22:46
  we want it to be. It will become the NFL, it will become the NBA,
• 22:49
  it will become the MLB. It will become a company run by conservative
• 22:53
  white people, catered to conservative white people, that platforms
• 22:58
  conservative white players. That's what it will become. That is what every fucking sport— no,
• 23:02
  but make sure we understand that. Platform the white players while actually
• 23:06
  on the back of all the African-American players. Well, that, that's exactly right. Let's be
• 23:10
  real clear, they have to marry the NFL. Exactly like the NFL, the NBA,
• 23:13
  the NBA, and the MLB, by the fucking way. No question. So this
• 23:17
  is— they, they took the blueprint that they've used to turn every single
• 23:21
  one of these other leagues into conservative fascist
• 23:25
  safe havens and said, well, what if we could get our hands on the Black
• 23:28
  Queer Women League? And look how fast it fucking happened.
• 23:33
  Look how fucking fast it happened. Now we've got— now
• 23:36
  the thing that's really fascinating about this is there's competing interests going on here.
• 23:39
  And this is what it comes— this is what happens with the billionaires in the
• 23:42
  government, because the co-owner of the dream or the storm,
• 23:46
  right, kind of fed up with the bullshit because
• 23:50
  the co-owner of the storm wants the fucking league to succeed.
• 23:54
  And what you're doing is tanking it. Now all of a sudden there's a
• 23:58
  conflict of interest here because the difference between the WNBA
• 24:02
  and the NBA, MLB, NFL, and NHL is
• 24:06
  they're not— it's not majority conservative.
• 24:10
  It's not. Those women are not majority conservative.
• 24:13
  Women stand on fucking business. We're, by the way,
• 24:17
  actually openly gay, something that the men have not
• 24:21
  had the fucking— and by the way, this is going to sound like an asshole
• 24:23
  thing to say— the balls to do. They don't have the balls to fucking do
• 24:25
  it. Some have. Some have. Yes. And not very many. Yes. And what
• 24:29
  do we do? We glorify them because it's such a huge step forward. But of—
• 24:33
  with all the gay men in the NFL and the NBA and the MLB and
• 24:36
  the NHL, the many, many, many gay men in those leagues, nobody comes
• 24:39
  out and lives their truth. Fine, I understand the homophobia is brutal. I see it
• 24:42
  all the time on the— every time I talk about the fact that the gay
• 24:45
  people— that there are gay people in these leagues. But the
• 24:49
  women, the soccer players, the fucking gymnasts,
• 24:52
  the basketball players, they live their fucking truth. It's a fucking problem
• 24:56
  for these. Let's be real clear, who, who would you say was maybe
• 24:59
  one of the most prominent female— and I'll go this far—
• 25:03
  prominent female white athletes of like the last 15 years? Because the one name kind
• 25:07
  of pops in my head, and, and it's because she is gay and very outspoken
• 25:11
  that she is Megan Rapinoe. Thank you. Megan Rapinoe. If she
• 25:15
  was not gay and conservative, you better believe this would
• 25:19
  have already happened to soccer. This 100%. If she wasn't gay and was conservative
• 25:23
  and was conservative. Right. And was conservative. I say wasn't. I apologize. No, no,
• 25:26
  I knew what you were saying. I just want to make sure if she wasn't
• 25:28
  gay and was and not even conservative, just showed a semblance
• 25:32
  of that she's conservative, this would have already happened to women's soccer.
• 25:36
  This already would have happened. Yeah, but it didn't because Megan Rapinoe
• 25:40
  is who she is. And by the way, I'll never forget it. The amount of
• 25:42
  outrage because she did this after scoring a huge goal. I will never fucking
• 25:47
  understand how— how dare she do that? And then
• 25:51
  they go about everything that Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham is and
• 25:55
  they're like, oh my God, she's so great. It's so fucking obvious and
• 25:58
  painful and just sickening. Like, like, are you—
• 26:02
  honest question about these people. This— if I can really sit down with
• 26:06
  any of these motherfuckers, both in the sports media industry and just
• 26:09
  in life, my first question is, are you not exhausted with yourself?
• 26:12
  Like, do you not like wake up and just feel exhausted that you simply
• 26:16
  cannot have the same energy for a single fucking thing? You only see the world
• 26:20
  through one fucking particular lens of your emotion in that particular day.
• 26:23
  It is It's fucking baffling.
• 26:26
  Baffling. Yeah. The pieces of shit in this society that
• 26:30
  want to now ruin sports because you're fucking broken.
• 26:34
  You ain't breaking my shit. Fuck you. And the thing, the thing that is like
• 26:38
  really so galling is that like I made a video in January about how
• 26:41
  the going out, going after trans athletes, saying that you wanted to
• 26:45
  keep women's sports safe by removing trans girls and women out of sports was a
• 26:49
  play to go after Title IX because they knew there would be pushback. And when
• 26:52
  there was pushback, they would be able to say, well, we've got to strip all
• 26:55
  this down to the bare bones. No more Title IX. Do the same thing they've
• 26:58
  done with the Voting Rights Act. Do the same thing they've done with Roe v.
• 27:00
  Wade and say, this isn't working. We got to strip it down. We care about
• 27:03
  women and girls, but we just can't do this with Title IX. It's allowing trans
• 27:06
  women and girls to play in sports. So then they will get rid of Title
• 27:09
  IX. Mark my words, they are going to get rid of Title IX and women's
• 27:12
  sports will be in the greatest, in the greatest peril
• 27:17
  that it's been in. In since the inception of youth women's sports
• 27:21
  and youth girls sports. That's what's going to happen. And this is
• 27:25
  all sort of being played out in the WNBA where we would
• 27:28
  love— like, I listen more than anything, I absolutely,
• 27:31
  and I mean this wholeheartedly, I would love to talk about Olivia Miles.
• 27:35
  I would love— like, an absolutely stunning rookie who,
• 27:38
  by the way, swagged out as fuck. She's so cool. So cool and so
• 27:42
  good. Hot. All the things, by the way. And D-Fish Like, it's so cool coming
• 27:46
  in the morning with you, Fish, because we both like would love to talk about
• 27:49
  her because like she's like, she's fucking awesome. She's so fucking awesome.
• 27:52
  Fucking— in any other world, we would be like, it would be like there
• 27:56
  was like this perfect alternate universe we got so close to where it was like,
• 27:59
  man, Asia's so cool. Angel Reese is so fucking cool. Olivia Munn. Like,
• 28:02
  we have the coolest, by the way, WNBA coolest athletes
• 28:06
  that we have right now. Like, just sort of like, as far as,
• 28:09
  as far as— well, no, certainly some of them were not coolest either,
• 28:13
  but like, as far as just the way that they represent like themselves,
• 28:17
  it like red carpet style at interviews and like the way
• 28:20
  that they interact on the internet and like in, in,
• 28:23
  in social media, just they have a sense of that stuff a lot
• 28:27
  better than like when was the last time you saw a cool NFL player?
• 28:30
  I want to make this abundantly clear, and I'm glad you mentioned A'ja Wilson specifically.
• 28:35
  There is no better basketball player in women's basketball than A'ja Wilson.
• 28:39
  And it's like, it's like Not even close. Yeah. And well, I mean, like,
• 28:42
  the closest one is Breanna Stewart. Yeah. And like, it's still— but it's
• 28:45
  still— yeah, yeah. Such a wide margin.
• 28:49
  No one knows who— like, like I'm talking about, and I'm over— I may be
• 28:52
  overexaggerating, but her star power is
• 28:56
  so low in comparison to even some people in the
• 28:59
  league she's current. This is a woman that basically the MVP is
• 29:03
  already— she should be as famous as Serena Williams. She should be as
• 29:06
  famous as Serena Williams. She should be as famous as, as literally any
• 29:10
  other like star athlete. She is the best female
• 29:14
  basketball player alive by such a wide margin.
• 29:18
  She is not— I mean, she is a footnote and barely
• 29:22
  a footnote. And I mean— and you mean in national discourse?
• 29:27
  And to the point, even the national discourse around the WNBA.
• 29:30
  Yeah, that really is fucking— it's because that shit— actual WNBA
• 29:35
  fans are completely drowned out. Actual WNBA discourse is drowned out. And I would love
• 29:38
  to be the change I wish to see in the world. But I have 2
• 29:41
  options, and I am uniquely suited to
• 29:45
  calling out bullshit. It is something I have been good at my entire life.
• 29:49
  I was getting awards for it as a child in writing competitions.
• 29:52
  Like, I'm not kidding, I've been like this my whole fucking life. This is my
• 29:55
  lot in life, is to call the bullshit. And I cannot wait to live in
• 29:58
  a world, even if I have to imagine it, even if it never comes,
• 30:02
  but I'm gonna desire to live in a world where you and I get to
• 30:05
  talk about What that— what the, the playoff game between A'ja Wilson and
• 30:10
  the new young Olivia Miles looked like, what Angel Reese did in a game
• 30:13
  that, like, what new record she fucking set and then walked off of it
• 30:16
  like a supermodel to a Victoria's Secret runway show. I would
• 30:20
  love to be there, but that's not what you and I do. Like,
• 30:23
  we don't pretend what's happening isn't happening. No. And we aren't WNBA
• 30:28
  media. We are— we are sports media media. And so that's,
• 30:31
  that's our lot in life, uh, for now. Well, for now, you gotta understand,
• 30:35
  like, sports media is not sports media anymore. So we're, we're trying to be because
• 30:38
  someone's fucking got to do it. No, and I spend a lot of time also
• 30:41
  trying to engage with, with, like— so what I do, sometimes we can't talk about
• 30:45
  it the way we might want to talk about it on our show, or I
• 30:47
  might not be able to do it in my content, but I repost a lot
• 30:49
  of stuff. I engage with it. I push it. I have a big platform on
• 30:52
  TikTok, on Instagram, on Threads. So I'm always engaging with it, pushing it, saying,
• 30:55
  oh my God, I love this fucking highlight or whatever. I engage with it in
• 30:58
  the ways that I can to use my presence on the internet
• 31:02
  to, to bring eyeballs to these players that
• 31:06
  I really like, to these stories that I really like. And so that's something that
• 31:09
  I think is a great way to use social media if you have any sort
• 31:12
  of influence, um, which you do. So I have some. I have
• 31:16
  some. You could build it up though. You want to start? You want to go
• 31:19
  straight to video? You want to go straight to video? No, no, I'm not against
• 31:21
  it. It's just, uh, no, I know. No, I've— make no mistake, I've done plenty
• 31:24
  of social media videos. Yes, I know, I know. I'm obviously kidding.
• 31:28
  I'm not like Hey, Cody, have you ever heard about the front-facing camera? Yeah,
• 31:32
  I've done plenty. I've done plenty. Cody, so all you do is you grab a
• 31:35
  ring light and you hold it out. You just pop it on there. I know
• 31:38
  you can do it. I'm untrustworthy with this, with this power. No, you actually kind
• 31:41
  of are right now. I would say maybe wait a week or two. Wait a
• 31:44
  week, because right now I'm really pissed. You know, when you're— when a company is
• 31:47
  threatening to sue you. Why don't you do it another time? Oh, by the way,
• 31:51
  moving on from WNBA to headline number 3,
• 31:55
  which is sort of the The next biggest story in sports, the whole
• 31:59
  FIFA disaster. Prior to our show, it came out
• 32:02
  that Gianni Infantino has backtracked.
• 32:05
  Oh, backtrack more. Fucking get indicted. Go to prison.
• 32:10
  Infantino scraps FIFA World Cup sell-off plan after
• 32:13
  backlash. Resign. Yeah.
• 32:16
  Widespread backlash, including from within global soccer's governing body
• 32:20
  and a threatened boycott by European nations. He had proposed spinning
• 32:24
  off FIFA's commercial businesses, including World Cups and Club
• 32:28
  World Cups for men and women, into a $20 billion subsidiary with
• 32:31
  20% owned by private investors. The anchor investor
• 32:35
  described by FIFA is a New York-based investment firm created by
• 32:39
  Joshua Kushner. I guess that's going to be a shock to you that
• 32:43
  it's the younger brother of Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. But in a statement late Friday,
• 32:47
  Infantino said the proposal will not proceed. Let's Fucking go!
• 32:51
  Oh my God, no, not enough, and we are not stopping there.
• 32:56
  I should say this was requested by my— one of my favorites ever,
• 32:59
  Black Girls Love Fantasy, she's the best. Uh, Kathy Mashallah,
• 33:03
  that's K Mash 1967, also one of my great women. And, uh,
• 33:06
  Eagle Dan FF, they all were like, you guys gotta talk about this. So thank
• 33:10
  you guys for, um, bringing that to our attention. And this
• 33:13
  is— this is— it was a— like, the backlash was
• 33:17
  so loud and so The fact that it was coming from within
• 33:21
  FIFA, it wasn't just the European Cup, it wasn't just
• 33:25
  CONCACAF, it wasn't just all these other places. Even Team USA got
• 33:29
  in on it. Team— you— there— this was— I've never seen a—
• 33:33
  like, he— you know when you, when you watch someone who
• 33:38
  is like, it's a— he's a— he's already an asshole, right? He's your buddy,
• 33:42
  you know he's an asshole. He walks into a bar, he is like a 3
• 33:46
  a 4 on a good day with clean hair, and he goes up to the
• 33:49
  hottest woman in a 10-mile square radius and shoots his shot.
• 33:52
  And you just know, like, bro, why did you even have
• 33:56
  the fucking balls? Like, you need to know where you stand in
• 33:59
  the social constructs, in the social hierarchy, before you walk up to somebody
• 34:04
  who looks like they just walked off of a movie set and they just blow
• 34:07
  it hard. That's what fucking Infantino just did. He shoot—
• 34:11
  he shot so fucking far so high that
• 34:15
  the other billionaires were like, what are you fucking
• 34:19
  doing? Do you know how hard that is to do in this day and age?
• 34:23
  To piss off so many people across all of these corrupt-ass
• 34:28
  nations, corrupt-ass fucking— it's not exactly like the European leagues and CONCACAF
• 34:32
  and the United States men's team are a bunch of fucking angels themselves.
• 34:36
  And they were all like, bro, you went too far. That's funny as fuck,
• 34:39
  Cody. Man, you know what? I almost
• 34:43
  want to— I almost want to congratulate Infantino for one thing.
• 34:47
  Just one thing. Just one thing. I'm excited to hear what it is.
• 34:50
  The pair of balls on this guy is so staggering. And those are some Italian-ass
• 34:54
  balls. And it's not— it's not that he tried to do this.
• 34:58
  It's not that he tried to do this. It's that he tried to do this
• 35:02
  knowing full well that his predecessor got
• 35:06
  fucking indicted. Can you imagine the balls
• 35:10
  to do— to try to pull off very shady illegal
• 35:15
  shit in front of everyone when your predecessor
• 35:19
  was indicted? Fucking amazing. Just the lack
• 35:23
  of fucking awareness is just staggering. The delusion is staggering.
• 35:27
  In today's day and age, you united all
• 35:31
  of Europe, North and South
• 35:35
  America against you. Dude, the biggest fuck you
• 35:38
  given to you by the entire planet. The entire planet
• 35:43
  said fuck you. Amazing. You should have waited until
• 35:46
  we were all a little less cohesive. I mean, we were so close. We,
• 35:49
  we just all bonded during the World Cup. Amazing. Just fucking amazing.
• 35:52
  Incredible shit. Amazing. I can't believe it's real. I truly,
• 35:56
  truly— it's almost giving me hope that maybe this
• 36:00
  world won't end soon. Everybody was like, listen, bro, we have
• 36:04
  put up with a lot, but what you just proposed is fucking nuts. That's funny
• 36:07
  as fuck. As somebody who is, uh, deeply culturally and, and, uh,
• 36:11
  ancestrally Italian-American, and by the way, I will say, and, and the chat going off
• 36:15
  right now, someone just right away, huh, I, I think Europe had the balls to
• 36:19
  stand up to him. And then of course, you know, UEFA standing up to him,
• 36:22
  led to CONCACAF standing up to him. Like, dude, I'll let you in
• 36:26
  on a little secret. I'll tell you why Europe and South America were so quick.
• 36:30
  Because Jared Kushner is Trump adjacent and If you
• 36:34
  look up how many billionaires in the world's list of billionaires
• 36:37
  live in the United States and their cohorts in the Middle East,
• 36:41
  it's the majority of billionaires. Yes. You know, that's the
• 36:45
  fucking problem, right? Is like we— they were like, hold on, this is a
• 36:48
  US power play. Like, we're not— it is absolutely— it is a UAE and
• 36:51
  US power play. And that is why— that's where Infantino
• 36:55
  made a huge mistake. Right? Like, you can't— you don't realize what
• 36:59
  you're doing. You're not dealing with US billionaires. No, you're dealing with Saudis.
• 37:02
  And Saudi is— Saudi Arabia has already tried to
• 37:06
  white— to, to whitewash all the sports. Oh, they— and good news, LIV is
• 37:09
  dead. They've already fucked up, by the way. The— any Saudis
• 37:12
  who've bought into Premier League have already made massive mistakes on
• 37:16
  those teams over there. So, so listen, all that billionaire
• 37:19
  money that you guys all jumped in— WWE and UFC,
• 37:22
  same shit— and your fucking companies are dying because
• 37:26
  of it, and I love it. I love it. Love that your companies are rotting
• 37:30
  from within, from your fucking heart over. I hope these all die.
• 37:34
  So we have gotten through, I think, our most
• 37:38
  difficult topics in terms of how heated we were going to get about them.
• 37:41
  Yes. Again, props to everybody who suggested
• 37:44
  these. That shows a lot of integrity on you guys' part that you want to
• 37:48
  hear these conversations. So we really appreciate you.
• 37:51
  And it's, it's proof that what we're talking about, people actually fucking care about,
• 37:54
  Cody. These are important topics and they're— and you're not going to see them talked
• 37:57
  about very much. You're just not. Not unless— not unless you like, share, and subscribe
• 38:02
  to The Regulars with Cody Decker and Tonya Rae Fox. We will tell you what's
• 38:05
  fucking going on. We will. And we'll give you our unfiltered opinions. And some
• 38:09
  people don't like it. And some people are not going to like
• 38:13
  what's being reported around the MLB. It's something that we've
• 38:18
  seen coming. You and I have seen this coming. We've been talking about it since
• 38:20
  long before this was happening this season. We were talking about it in pitchers
• 38:24
  and catchers. Logan Saito, S-A-I-T-O, I hope
• 38:28
  if I'm saying that right, said impending MLB work stoppage
• 38:31
  and the willingness of fans to blame the players rather than the billionaire owners.
• 38:35
  Now, I don't know if Logan watched our show, but I was like, oh,
• 38:38
  you're speaking our language, baby. Logan, if you watch our show, thank you so much
• 38:41
  because you are speaking our language and you know what's up. And if you don't,
• 38:44
  you should. I mean, listen, we're your people. I want to make this abundantly clear
• 38:48
  how this question is framed. Correct. Perfect. Correct. Um, so I will
• 38:52
  say, uh, Jeff Passan kind of did an, uh, he did his own sort of
• 38:56
  AMA and he got asked, how do you think the potential
• 39:00
  for a lockout affects the trade deal, uh, the trade deadline?
• 39:04
  Will it be way down given the uncertainty of next season?
• 39:08
  And that's where he dropped the information regarding how some of the owners are
• 39:12
  feeling about a lockout. He said it's absolutely affecting some teams' approaches.
• 39:15
  Which you and I again knew. These are owners that believe that there won't
• 39:19
  be a single game played next season. Not a, not a half a lockout,
• 39:23
  not anything. A single game. So they're telling their GMs to price
• 39:27
  that into their trade deliberations. Will it have a significant effect? I won't
• 39:31
  go that far. But does that possibility exist? Absolutely.
• 39:34
  Okay, Cody, so the owners are counting on a lockout,
• 39:37
  which means they have zero fucking intention of not
• 39:41
  forcing the issue on the salary cap. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just so you guys
• 39:46
  know, those of you that might be new to the show, those of you that
• 39:48
  maybe follow Tonya and are just getting to know me for the first time.
• 39:50
  Hi, I'm Cody. It's nice to meet you. I'm a little bit of an alcoholic.
• 39:52
  I'm a former professional baseball player, played for 11 years. I have a very,
• 39:56
  very specific, very specific viewpoint on Major
• 40:00
  League Baseball and all the sports because of my history of Major League Baseball.
• 40:03
  I have 2 months of service time in Major League Baseball. Majority of my
• 40:06
  time stuck in Triple-A. The dirtiness of the industry. And I want to make this
• 40:10
  money clear. There's a reason I'm going to go into this real quick. So if
• 40:12
  you'll allow me. Absolutely. I said this on the show today and I was trying
• 40:16
  to explain to people why I have a very specific viewpoint, especially when it comes
• 40:19
  to CBAs and the billionaire owners and the millionaire players that you guys seem to
• 40:23
  want to demonize for making millions of dollars, even though they're the ones that drive
• 40:26
  all the profits. They're the ones that actually drive— let's use LeBron James as an
• 40:30
  example. LeBron James signed a veteran minimum deal.
• 40:33
  Already $250 million to $400 million is influx into
• 40:36
  the city of Philadelphia. None of that money goes to LeBron James. Now, I'm not
• 40:40
  saying LeBron James needs that money, but he is the cause of that influx of
• 40:43
  money, period. Stop. He is not going to be compensated for such. What you're saying
• 40:46
  is LeBron James is an economy in and of himself. Yes. And he
• 40:50
  is not going— now, he doesn't need to be because he's already a billionaire due
• 40:53
  to all of his outside things along with his basketball work. But let's
• 40:57
  be abundantly clear, that is only LeBron James single-handedly
• 41:01
  creating a brand new economy in Philadelphia. He is single-handedly,
• 41:05
  just by signing one contract, has changed the entire outlook of
• 41:09
  an entire city. A major US city, by the way. A major US city.
• 41:12
  Not Springfield, Missouri. A major fucking— the Liberty Bell is
• 41:16
  fucking there. So that being said, I want to make it abundantly
• 41:20
  clear who drives the money. It is not the owners. It is not the organizations.
• 41:24
  It is specifically the players that come there. You don't buy a jersey without a
• 41:27
  name on the back. You buy your favorite player's jersey. That is fact. Now,
• 41:31
  those of you that are just really big on just only your team, that's adorable
• 41:34
  and fucking weird. But I gotta stress, I can't stress this enough, the players are
• 41:38
  what drive fucking everything. Without the players, there is no fucking sport.
• 41:43
  If that's the case, go watch a video game. Do not— do a lot of
• 41:46
  you go ahead and just turn on the video game to remote mode and just
• 41:48
  sit back and watch a video game? No, because it's not fucking real,
• 41:52
  and we still need a semblance of reality in our professional sports,
• 41:55
  right? Now, take you back to my, my thing. I made
• 41:59
  it to the big leagues after 7 years in the minor leagues. I was drafted
• 42:03
  as a senior sign out of UCLA. When you were drafted as a senior
• 42:06
  out of college, they tell you straight up you don't
• 42:10
  have a bargaining chip for this upcoming draft. So no matter if you—
• 42:14
  if I was drafted first overall, like first pick,
• 42:18
  I would be paid $1,000 in my signing bonus no matter what.
• 42:22
  I have nothing to come back with because I don't have the bargaining
• 42:25
  chip of my junior year saying, I'll just go back to college, you got to
• 42:28
  buy me out of that. They're saying basically, no, no, we own your rights for
• 42:32
  the next year because we drafted you, so you can't play anywhere
• 42:36
  unless you sign this contract. I can maybe go to independent ball, I could
• 42:39
  try to sign overseas, but that doesn't exist out of college. What happens
• 42:43
  when they do the like dual— when they sign like, uh, the Tom Bradys and
• 42:47
  Kyler degrees and like then they just go play football. They can do whatever they
• 42:50
  want as long as they're not playing baseball. Okay, they can't do— because there are
• 42:54
  no other real professional baseball leagues in the country. So I could sign to like
• 42:57
  a Pioneer League and get paid 35 cents and kind of— but here's
• 43:01
  the thing, during my— that my time in minor league baseball— now you have to
• 43:04
  understand this— in from the 1970s till 2012,
• 43:08
  there was not a single pay increase in minor league baseball. The inflation
• 43:12
  rate actually in my— 1990s to 2012. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry. No,
• 43:15
  no. 1972 to 1970s. Yes.
• 43:18
  So in— so it's sort of like the minimum wage just never going up.
• 43:21
  So in 40 years, the inflation rate for minor league pay was
• 43:26
  -70%. Oh, good. Inflation in the United States was 400%.
• 43:30
  So I didn't see a comma in my paycheck. So AAA
• 43:34
  players in the 1970s were pretty well paid, is what you're saying? Players made
• 43:38
  exactly the same dollar figure I made In 2015,
• 43:44
  which is— would have been great in the 1970s. Yes.
• 43:46
  $1,030 every 2 weeks probably
• 43:50
  would have been okay. That would have afforded you a house in the 1970s.
• 43:52
  In 1975. It affords you nothing now. I couldn't
• 43:57
  pay rent. I lived out of my 2005 Honda Element while I was
• 44:01
  stuck in Triple-A. I hit 150 home runs before I even got to the big
• 44:04
  leagues. I was stuck. They made it abundantly clear there was no financial investment in
• 44:07
  me. And what I needed to do was I needed everyone to die.
• 44:10
  For me to get called up to the big leagues, which you're not going to
• 44:13
  wish upon people. Maybe a couple though. And then when I got called to the
• 44:15
  big leagues, I wasn't played. I wasn't played at all. I got 10 at-bats.
• 44:18
  They were all pinch-hit at-bats. I never pinch-hit in my entire fucking career.
• 44:21
  And now, Decker, go face Aroldis Chapman in the 9th inning. You haven't had an
• 44:25
  at-bat in fucking 4 weeks. Well, good luck. And now I'm labeled in my career
• 44:29
  that I couldn't cut it in the big leagues, even though I got one start
• 44:31
  and never got an opportunity to actually play fucking baseball. Part of that
• 44:35
  I do attribute to certain people. Pat Murphy, and other people
• 44:39
  as well. That being said, there's a lot of interesting aspects around it. But my
• 44:43
  perspective of that is when the league is not subject to antitrust
• 44:47
  laws like Major League Baseball, NFL, NBA, when the league has total
• 44:51
  control of the finances of their, say, subjects, which they did
• 44:55
  for minor league baseball because minor league baseball up until just about 2 years
• 44:59
  ago was not even remotely even adjacent to the Major
• 45:03
  League Baseball Players Association. There was no protection for a single minor league baseball player,
• 45:07
  period. That's why they were able to get away with paying us very,
• 45:10
  very illegal wages. That's why there was nothing we could do. We couldn't
• 45:15
  sue. I couldn't seek other employment. I couldn't even— I asked for my
• 45:18
  release almost on a weekly basis while I was with the Padres for 7 years,
• 45:22
  and they made it abundantly clear they weren't going to release me.
• 45:25
  This is a dirty, dirty business. If you allow owners
• 45:29
  to get anything They will take miles
• 45:32
  and miles and miles. For instance, destroy baseball. The salary
• 45:36
  cap will destroy baseball. The minor leagues will be dead.
• 45:39
  They're going to try and pretend that the, uh, that the college
• 45:43
  level is, is minor league baseball. College baseball and Major League Baseball are
• 45:47
  so fucking not even related. I don't know what to tell you. Do you think
• 45:50
  that the, the minor leagues would fold essentially? Yes. So, all right,
• 45:53
  so this is— there might be like one level. This protect— this this prediction,
• 45:57
  maybe we have— maybe we keep Triple-A, maybe we keep Single-A, whatever.
• 46:01
  We lose at least 2 levels of the— of
• 46:05
  baseball. We would cut out thousands of professional players' jobs,
• 46:09
  thousands of jobs that work at stadiums, front office jobs,
• 46:13
  full city economies. Right. You remove
• 46:16
  baseball teams from places like Toledo, like,
• 46:20
  that don't have professional sports. Where they are genuinely
• 46:24
  at the center of not only the economy but fucking
• 46:28
  community. Yes, I realize that everybody thinks that
• 46:32
  like AAA and single-A and double-A, oh, nobody fucking cares. No, that's not fucking true.
• 46:36
  That's not true at all. There are massive like,
• 46:39
  like communities built around these fandoms, just like they are with smaller colleges
• 46:43
  and places in the middle. Like, there's fucking people who love Gonzaga, and I still
• 46:47
  don't know where Gonzaga is. I have no idea. I've yet to meet a single
• 46:49
  human being that has even seen the school, you know, right? So it's the same
• 46:51
  thing with the Mudhens. That's a big fucking deal. So we're talking about eliminating
• 46:56
  potentially all of single, double, AAA, and maybe, maybe you
• 47:00
  keep one level. And then on top of that, you start commodifying
• 47:04
  college baseball even more. We— you and I both fucking
• 47:08
  know those players are gonna get fucked financially, uh,
• 47:11
  because all their school's money is— money, if it exists,
• 47:15
  is going to the football program or the basketball program.
• 47:20
  That, by the way, then what money does start going to baseball will
• 47:23
  fuck women's sports. So there is— like,
• 47:26
  when we tell you that there is a trickle-down effect that destroys
• 47:31
  an entire fucking sport in this country, it is not
• 47:35
  actually hyperbole. No, this is— we're— I don't think you
• 47:39
  guys get where this is going. This is a dystopian sports future we're going
• 47:43
  to. And I'm not— this is not hyperbolic. We've lived through what
• 47:47
  the best of what we're ever like. We are, we are going in a direction
• 47:50
  where billionaires are going to make everything and the prices for you to
• 47:54
  go to games are going to be astronomical. And they've convinced you the prices
• 47:58
  that you pay is because of the players making money. They have legitimately convinced you
• 48:02
  of it. And it's, it's really one— meanwhile, fucking gross
• 48:06
  and sad. Meanwhile, you just pointed out LeBron. Shohei has had the same effect.
• 48:10
  These are players that quite literally on their own
• 48:14
  have created entire economies. And you're saying they're the people
• 48:17
  costing players, the fans money?
• 48:20
  Yep. Come on now. I don't know what to say other than this is a
• 48:24
  real fucking problem. So those of you that think a salary cap is going to
• 48:27
  help baseball, no, it's the first step to fucking
• 48:30
  10 more steps. It's going to not only destroy
• 48:35
  baseball just as fast as the WNBA was fucking ruined like that.
• 48:38
  It'll be— I mean, it'll be faster. It's— I, I just don't know why you—
• 48:42
  why people don't get this. And I'm gonna say it again. I'm gonna say it
• 48:45
  again because I'm saying it all the time, and I am also saying it on
• 48:48
  my fucking Fan LA show. Yeah, the difference between 1 million
• 48:52
  and 1 billion. Let's do the quick math.
• 48:56
  1 million seconds, Tanya, do you remember?
• 48:59
  Uh, 11.7 days. Yeah.
• 49:04
  A billion seconds. Tanya, do you remember?
• 49:09
  31.7 years.
• 49:13
  1 billion. So again, for visual
• 49:17
  aspect, here, here, Mo, go to the, go to the widescreen, go to the widescreen.
• 49:20
  This is a widescreen shot. This is a widescreen shot for full
• 49:23
  transparency. Tanya has $1 billion.
• 49:27
  Cody has $1 million. How much more money does Tanya
• 49:31
  have than Cody? A billion fucking dollars.
• 49:37
  You can go back to the 2-screen. So, uh,
• 49:40
  that's, that's where we're gonna leave that conversation. And by the way, we'll revisit
• 49:44
  it probably once a week, if not more, for the foreseeable future because
• 49:48
  baseball is not happening next year. I firmly believe there's not going to be a
• 49:51
  season. No, by the way, like, I really meant it when I said the fact
• 49:55
  that, that owners are already preparing for not a single game. I'm gonna go a
• 49:58
  step further. That, that's, that is a, that's an admission that
• 50:01
  they have no plans to cave. And you strongly
• 50:06
  believe that we are at this point with the MLB Players Association
• 50:10
  in a spot where they're not going to give a salary cap. They fucking better
• 50:13
  not. Right. But you feel pretty good about where it's at right now. So if
• 50:17
  neither one is going to cave, that means the owners definitely aren't.
• 50:20
  And by the way, just a quick reminder before we hop out of this topic,
• 50:23
  the salary caps never existed. In baseball? Nope.
• 50:27
  So the owners are going to go
• 50:32
  to a lockout where no games are played because the players
• 50:35
  won't give them something that's never existed in 150 years
• 50:39
  of this professional sport. Interesting choice. And I want you guys to really pay attention
• 50:44
  to the talking points. These are going to be the talking points and they're already
• 50:46
  there. They're already right there. So please
• 50:49
  pay attention to the talking points. The talking points are the
• 50:53
  players are greedy. Get ready for that. The players' greed is what's killing the game.
• 50:56
  You're going to say baseball can't survive to pay the players this much money,
• 51:00
  which is just the most insane thing ever said out loud
• 51:04
  because they have not yet to speak. When they tell you these things, they don't
• 51:07
  give you an ounce of data. That's a problem, don't you think? It's just—
• 51:10
  trust me, bro. Rob Manfred, you— I actually, I want to make this abundantly
• 51:15
  clear. I actually personally like Rob Manfred. Manfred, like personally, like every
• 51:19
  time I've been around him personally, every time I've been around Rob, it's been so
• 51:21
  cordial. He's actually been very lovely towards me and other people.
• 51:25
  Most friendly of the commissioners. But Rob
• 51:30
  Manfred has a job to do. Rob Manfred's job is not to safeguard
• 51:34
  Major League Baseball. Rob Manfred's job very clearly is to be
• 51:37
  a union head chief for the billionaire owners. That is the
• 51:41
  job of Major League Baseball commissioner. Not safeguard
• 51:44
  the game. I need you guys to understand that first
• 51:48
  and foremost. So when I say this, I'm not saying this is hyperbole.
• 51:52
  I mean this. Your choices are the following: we're going
• 51:56
  to lose one season of Major League Baseball because I do think that is the
• 52:00
  plan for the owners. Their plan is to cut out a year of the game
• 52:03
  so they can make long-term profits for years and years to come. I will gladly
• 52:08
  give up a year of baseball. Gladly to make sure that they don't get what
• 52:12
  they want. By the way, we get— and the thing about giving up a year
• 52:14
  of baseball is it gives us a year to talk about baseball every fucking day.
• 52:17
  Don't worry about— we— no, we still talk about baseball.
• 52:21
  You guys locking us out of baseball. I'm going to be here telling you
• 52:25
  why this is happening because it's not— you know what, that frees the players up
• 52:28
  to get on a microphone. Dude, I want them on my shows. I want them
• 52:31
  on this. I want them on— I'd love to give them a mic. Bryce Harper,
• 52:34
  when this happens, come on over, buddy. Because I'm with you all 100%. I have
• 52:37
  the shit that's happened with Bryce this week, by the way. Yeah, fucking real gross.
• 52:40
  I actually— it's getting fucking awful. Yeah, like it's really
• 52:44
  bad. We got Don Mattingly. Let's change your name. You're no longer
• 52:47
  Donnie Baseball. You're Donnie Front Office. That's what the words you've said this week have
• 52:51
  made me like. I've met— I've always been a fan of Don Mattingly.
• 52:55
  I'm not right now because Donnie Baseball is shilling out and
• 52:59
  shucking for everyone he can, specifically He's the interim manager right now
• 53:02
  of the Philadelphia Phillies. And then he makes that statement after Bryce Harper,
• 53:06
  oh, had the audacity to say that we need help in Philadelphia. No shit,
• 53:09
  you need help. You've lost like 8 games in a row. By the way,
• 53:13
  since when are superstars like Bryce
• 53:16
  Harper not allowed to say what he said? I don't know. When did we get
• 53:21
  to the point— I am fucking baffled— where these front office dudes, Buster Posey,
• 53:24
  Don Mattingly, these motherfuckers shut the fuck up.
• 53:28
  Don Mattingly did not watch the game. Donnie front office. Yeah,
• 53:31
  Donnie. Front office is currently the fucking,
• 53:34
  the fucking interim manager of a team that his son is the GM
• 53:39
  for. You don't think that is a bit of a fucking conflict
• 53:43
  of fucking interest? You don't think— oh God, God forbid,
• 53:47
  God forbid that your star player, your star player
• 53:50
  says, yes, we can use help. He even says, I even brought my outfielders mid
• 53:53
  if we— in case we get a first baseman, I need to move the outfield.
• 53:55
  So he even put himself kind of on the list that he needs to make
• 53:58
  an adjustment. So I have no issue with what he said, but I have a
• 54:02
  lot of issue of you saying out loud, well, it's not his money.
• 54:05
  It's not yours either, Donnie. Playing that game, Donnie,
• 54:10
  it made me so disappointed in you. I, I,
• 54:13
  I've never been more disappointed in a guy I rooted for for years because you
• 54:16
  were a player. You're not one anymore, and you don't have your team's
• 54:20
  back. You have your front office's back. You're not my manager, and I wouldn't like
• 54:23
  to play for you. And I don't have to because I never played baseball.
• 54:26
  Uh, okay, we're gonna go over to, uh, do you
• 54:30
  want to talk about like ball? You want to just like talk a little ball
• 54:33
  real quick? Let's talk a little ball, man. Let's talk a little bit of ball.
• 54:35
  Um, we are in NFL preseason. I'm incredibly happy. I'm not letting anyone rain on
• 54:39
  my parade. I just need a little bit of football in my life. I'm really
• 54:41
  excited about that. And for some reason, um, we had multiple requests
• 54:45
  both from MK Guilford and KidIcon24. You guys have
• 54:49
  great taste. You guys know what I'm— you know, this is partially probably because I,
• 54:52
  I always talk about NFL shit and quarterback stuff. So they want to talk about
• 54:56
  the QB battle in Minnesota and kind of both specifically
• 55:00
  what's going on with just like the general
• 55:04
  Kyler Murray and JJ McCarthy of it all, but also why
• 55:09
  the actual narratives around these 2 exist so differently.
• 55:13
  Now, this is actually a topic you and I have done before, you know,
• 55:17
  like this. They're just sort of reading our minds. But let's,
• 55:21
  let's, let's kind of revisit where we're at with this.
• 55:25
  We'll run through the standard operating procedure of the fact
• 55:29
  that currently the quarterback battle, battle in Minnesota,
• 55:32
  which again, this is a team that has been very good for the last couple
• 55:35
  of seasons or and then they
• 55:39
  were really good, took a nosedive last year with quarterback issues. So they acquire
• 55:44
  Kyler Murray from the Cardinals and they have their 3rd year former 1st round pick
• 55:47
  JJ McCarthy underway as as their, their 2
• 55:51
  quarterbacks on the docket. You and I said months ago, this is a
• 55:54
  fucking joke. Let's not pretend this is a quarterback battle. It's not even close.
• 55:58
  Kyler Murray is head, shoulders, knees and toes above
• 56:02
  JJ McCarthy in every single way. They haven't announced it yet.
• 56:05
  Now, I would be, by the way, I would be so fucking shocked
• 56:09
  that they were playing this shit if at the same time people were pretending
• 56:13
  that Deshaun Watson can still be an NFL quarterback
• 56:17
  when people are reporting out of the Cleveland Browns that he
• 56:22
  had one of the worst training camp debuts that they have ever seen in
• 56:26
  the history of quarterbacking. He literally
• 56:29
  can't quarterback anymore and they're making Shedeur Sanders compete
• 56:33
  with him. So that's where we're at in quarterback battles. I want to make this—
• 56:37
  let's start with— let's start with the Browns. Play Deshaun Watson.
• 56:41
  Play him every day. I want to see it. I want— I want— I want
• 56:45
  to see him I want to see this go as
• 56:49
  bad as I know. I think I might be now.
• 56:52
  Shedeur's been so disrespected at this point that like, what's another like week
• 56:56
  or two to finally get people off his back? Throw him out there. Because you're
• 56:59
  right, if we, if we got to see, have the pleasure of watching Deshaun
• 57:03
  Jackson, uh, Deshaun Watson— sorry, Deshaun Jackson. Yeah,
• 57:07
  you don't deserve that. I'm so sorry. That's not okay. We apologize. We love you.
• 57:10
  You're great. All right. Cal Poly. Sean Watson,
• 57:13
  uh, shit his pants on national
• 57:17
  television for that bullshit organization. At what
• 57:21
  point do we finally— if there is a chance for us to get people off
• 57:25
  of Shedeur's back, that's the way to do it. And we get to see a,
• 57:28
  uh, a sexual assaulter embarrassed on national television. It's a win-win.
• 57:32
  I love it. So I love that. I know. I, I, I want the Browns
• 57:36
  to be Fucking tarred and feathered. So weekly.
• 57:39
  So I want them to be so embarrassed by this. I want— I want
• 57:44
  this the thing to be that breaks the fucking Haslam. I want it to be.
• 57:47
  Yes. And that is the— that is where quarterback battle discourse is
• 57:50
  sort of at right now at its worst. Now, I have higher expectations of the
• 57:54
  Vikings, by the way. One of the better organizations, one of the better owners,
• 57:56
  and one of the better coaches in the league who's got— whose ass is firmly
• 58:00
  on the hot seat right now. So which is crazy to me. Crazy to me
• 58:03
  too. That's fucking insane how this game goes. Man, it's insane.
• 58:06
  But for a, for a, for a white Sean McVay guy, those guys— Zach Taylor's
• 58:10
  been at it for fucking years. No, no, you're definitely right. But like, you know
• 58:13
  how this thing goes. Joe Burrow. Um, so you and I are on record.
• 58:17
  We were staying on record. There's no way, shape, or form. There's no world.
• 58:21
  There's no actually like— there's no different Earth in a multiverse where
• 58:25
  Kyler Murray isn't the better quarterback. Regardless, I don't care
• 58:28
  what happened. There's just nothing that could be done. There's nothing that JJ
• 58:33
  McCarthy could do He is not the— this is not Sam Darnold.
• 58:36
  This is not even Baker Mayfield. This is not a guy who everybody saw in
• 58:39
  college and thought, holy fucking shit, this guy's the next thing. This is
• 58:43
  JJ McCarthy, who was not the best 1,
• 58:48
  2, 3 players on his own offense on that national championship team. It's Kyler
• 58:53
  Murray, who in college was one of the greatest fucking
• 58:56
  passers of the ball and runners we've ever seen. Now, granted, we are
• 59:00
  a long way from college for both of these players at this point, but Kyler
• 59:04
  Murray has done shit in the end in the NFL that we have seen that,
• 59:07
  that J.J. McCarthy couldn't dream up. He couldn't do in Madden
• 59:11
  with Kyler Murray playing as Kyler Murray. So let's
• 59:15
  just— that's our fucking shit right there. It's not happening. Fuck everybody.
• 59:18
  Fuck all of this. And luckily, I do trust KOC
• 59:22
  to not be a dumbass. He's going to want to start Kyler Murray. The,
• 59:25
  the advantage that J.J. McCarthy has— this is the only advantage—
• 59:30
  is literally just that he knows the offense. That's it. And knows
• 59:33
  the offense, knows the offense is
• 59:37
  doing a lot of heavy lifting for what I think is going on with J.J.
• 59:39
  McCarthy, which is that he's actually in some way, shape, or form operated in it
• 59:43
  before. Kyler Murray is taking— it's taking a little bit longer. He's running a complex
• 59:47
  Kevin O'Connell offense. Yeah, fine. Not worried about it.
• 59:52
  The favorite to win the job among NFL national
• 59:56
  analysts. Elite raw talent. Everything that we need to see.
• 1:00:00
  There's already— they're working on deep ball timing
• 1:00:04
  with Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson, which, hey, by the way, would love
• 1:00:08
  to point out there is no deep ball with just with JJ McCarthy. You can't
• 1:00:12
  even work on the timing because the deep ball doesn't exist. There's no deep
• 1:00:16
  ball timing with fucking JJ McCarthy to Justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison because
• 1:00:20
  it's— he's not capable of it. Right there, you've just admitted that you know who
• 1:00:24
  the fuck can run your offense and he's just working on timing with new wide
• 1:00:28
  receivers. So I don't mean to be a big old buzzkill about
• 1:00:31
  weighing in on this other than to say the reason JJ McCarthy
• 1:00:35
  gets more fucking grace is because he's white. It's what it
• 1:00:39
  always is. He's a good old boy white dude and he's probably
• 1:00:42
  conservative adjacent. Or outright MAGA. And Kyler
• 1:00:47
  Murray, I don't know if you guys noticed, isn't. So he
• 1:00:51
  does get the benefit of having played in Arizona where people forget that there's
• 1:00:56
  a football team for a while. Now he's in a place where they talk about
• 1:00:58
  football. I'm excited to see it. And I would like to see Kyler Murray start,
• 1:01:02
  stay healthy, and never have to hear J.J. McCarthy's name ever again.
• 1:01:06
  The fact that this is even a conversation is baffling to
• 1:01:10
  me. Um, Kyler Murray is the better
• 1:01:14
  quarterback. Kyler Murray is going to be very good. The Vikings are going to be
• 1:01:17
  very good. And how about this? Let's just, let's just boil this down very
• 1:01:21
  simply. Okay. Justin Jefferson's very important over there,
• 1:01:25
  right? He's pretty important everywhere. Pretty important. But, but in Minnesota right now, pretty important,
• 1:01:29
  right? Of course. Yeah, pretty important. Makes a lot of money. Yeah. Probably the best
• 1:01:32
  all-around receiver in the game, probably. Oh yeah, Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison are a
• 1:01:36
  like top 3 wide receiver pair. Yeah. So, you know, who does he want
• 1:01:40
  throwing the ball to him? Uh-huh. Question answered.
• 1:01:44
  Kyler Murray is your quarterback. I can't believe we're even talking about this. And by
• 1:01:48
  the way, if you're an offensive lineman, who do you want behind you?
• 1:01:51
  The guy who can, who can run around like Kyler
• 1:01:56
  Murray or the absolute fucking moron?
• 1:01:59
  I'm sorry. I can go on forever. Slow down. Cigar store Indian
• 1:02:03
  is probably the way to describe it. You can. I'm just going to call him
• 1:02:06
  a fucking moron. Well, I don't know if he's dumb. Oh, no, he is.
• 1:02:09
  We saw that was the whole— No, he probably is. I just don't know.
• 1:02:12
  I've never really heard him talk. Well, I have. Well, listen, here's the thing.
• 1:02:16
  He said he's in the NFL, so my hopes are not through the roof.
• 1:02:19
  And that, by the way, it's not a knock on the NFL. I would say
• 1:02:22
  the same thing about the MLB. Trust me, I played with a lot of baseball
• 1:02:25
  players. They're dumber than shit. I'm just telling you, J.J. McCarthy is next level
• 1:02:29
  idiot. Jesus. Media Corner.
• 1:02:33
  Media Corner. I know. I really didn't know.
• 1:02:38
  I never heard him. I never heard him talk. Yeah. No, I mean, I mean,
• 1:02:40
  I'm not a slanderer. No, no, I believe you. I just— I've never heard it.
• 1:02:44
  I fully believe it. There's not a universe where I think he's intelligent. So let's
• 1:02:47
  slow down. There's like 4 intelligent quarterbacks. So Kyler Murray has been
• 1:02:51
  accused of being an idiot because he— yeah,
• 1:02:55
  because he won't watch film. Yeah, right, right. Of being like, not whatever. Um,
• 1:02:59
  perfectly, perfectly capable of talking on a mic since he's been in Minnesota.
• 1:03:03
  Yeah, so it— but J.J. McCarthy, there's no way— others—
• 1:03:07
  oh yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. He's— we know what's— what was going on
• 1:03:10
  in Arizona. It was bullshit. It's the single worst organization in football. Kyler Murray wasn't
• 1:03:14
  being set up for success and he didn't want to get on a mic.
• 1:03:16
  He didn't care. You know what, he probably should have cared, but he didn't.
• 1:03:18
  And at this point, I don't blame— like, these owners suck.
• 1:03:20
  Um, our first media corner is going to be a real quick hitter. Quite honestly,
• 1:03:24
  let's do it, because I'm going to fill you in a little bit on what
• 1:03:27
  people have been saying about our Kyle Shanahan coverage of the Kyle Shanahan story.
• 1:03:31
  Talk to me. We talked about the car crash and
• 1:03:35
  the inevitable realization,
• 1:03:38
  or I guess like the final straw that we had where it was like,
• 1:03:41
  I mean, we've known this for a while now that, that these networks and reporters
• 1:03:45
  are all working sort of colluding with each other to either protect or expose
• 1:03:48
  players, coaches, whoever else, depending on, you know, what the directives are from
• 1:03:52
  the NFL specifically. Specifically, that was made very clear by this story. Yes, it was.
• 1:03:56
  Sports media. Our takeaway from this is they finally said out
• 1:04:00
  loud that sports media is not sports media. Sports media is— Adam Schefter pretended
• 1:04:04
  he didn't know that Kyle Shanahan had broken several bones in his body and had
• 1:04:07
  40 stitches in his face. You know, like a liar would say. Right. So a
• 1:04:12
  lot of, a lot of people understood exactly what our point was. I would say
• 1:04:15
  more people did than didn't. A lot of people pushed back and said,
• 1:04:19
  why do we all care that this guy's in a car crash? Why do we
• 1:04:23
  need to know? What— who cares? Can't we just, you know, uh,
• 1:04:26
  handle people privately? Whatever. So, um,
• 1:04:30
  Weston— I want to get this right— Weston Hadrich said,
• 1:04:33
  why is that Shanahan accident so weird? I can't figure
• 1:04:37
  it out. And he wasn't being sarcastic, he's just like, what's going on with this
• 1:04:40
  story? And I wanted to point out that a lot of the reaction to our
• 1:04:43
  story is, is exposing why it's so weird.
• 1:04:47
  It's weird because There are continuing to be
• 1:04:51
  more things revealed about what we didn't know about
• 1:04:55
  the crash. And it's still not coming from the media. Math ain't mathing.
• 1:04:59
  It's coming. By the way, Kyle Shanahan came out himself
• 1:05:03
  and said, hey, the police report is wrong. He contradicted
• 1:05:07
  the police report and he said, actually, the accident
• 1:05:12
  was my fault. Now, the media hadn't reported that.
• 1:05:16
  The police hadn't reported that. Kyle Shanahan sees that
• 1:05:19
  the other driver is getting blamed. This, like, I think,
• 1:05:22
  like, teenage girl, 19-year-old girl, something like that, is getting blamed. He's like, actually,
• 1:05:26
  it was me. So he then
• 1:05:30
  completely exposed the police and the media covering
• 1:05:34
  up for him. So, Weston, why does it feel weird?
• 1:05:38
  Because it's fucking weird. It's weird.
• 1:05:41
  Because it's a cover-up of sense.
• 1:05:45
  We don't know exactly what happened. Now, my thought
• 1:05:49
  process— and this is just my read based on what Kyle Shanahan put out there—
• 1:05:52
  my thought process is simply Kyle Shanahan, basically his morality
• 1:05:56
  kind of took over a little bit and probably saw that this— somehow this person
• 1:06:00
  who was in the accident was getting blamed. By the way, people are not a
• 1:06:02
  monolith. Kyle Shanahan could have been doing something stupid in that car and still also
• 1:06:05
  not love that someone's getting blamed for something he did. Yeah, people can
• 1:06:09
  be complex. Like, let's be real clear, like, I don't know what happened with Kyle
• 1:06:12
  Shanahan that night. And you know what's funny about that? Neither do you. You know
• 1:06:15
  what's funny about that? That's fucking weird. That's fucking weird. We didn't know
• 1:06:19
  about it for weeks. Fucking weird. And now every part— thing is
• 1:06:23
  being contradicted by the people involved. The police misfiled
• 1:06:27
  the report. Guys, this should be number
• 1:06:31
  one national news everywhere. You guys treated Diana Rossini
• 1:06:34
  and Mike Vrabel as if this was the fucking thing that's killing the fucking world.
• 1:06:39
  What fucking planet are you people on?
• 1:06:42
  What fucking planet are you people on? Have I fucking— am I taking crazy
• 1:06:46
  pills? I have no idea if there's anything wrong
• 1:06:50
  that happened. But you know what the problem is? I don't have any idea
• 1:06:54
  what the fuck happened, and neither do you. And people do know,
• 1:06:58
  and they're not talking. And fuck Adam Schefter.
• 1:07:01
  Fuck Adam Schefter. Fuck that.
• 1:07:04
  We should get rid of the Curt Schilling thing and just say fuck Adam Schefter
• 1:07:07
  every show. You fucking, fucking miserable, worthless waste of
• 1:07:11
  space. The fact that you are playing dumb, oh,
• 1:07:16
  makes me so sick. I'm gonna make a shirt that just says, dear Mr.
• 1:07:19
  Editor, and wear it on every fucking show I'm on from now on. And by
• 1:07:23
  the way, I, I, and my guess is that the majority of people saying this,
• 1:07:26
  like, who cares about is probably 49ers fans, because I've gone on record as
• 1:07:30
  saying the 49ers have one of the worst fan bases in sports, and I stand
• 1:07:33
  by it. I have great 49ers friends, but the fan base blows. The reality
• 1:07:37
  is we heard about Eric Bieniemy, the offensive— within
• 1:07:41
  hours, okay, the offensive coordinator
• 1:07:46
  of the— not the head coach, the offensive coordinator's wife
• 1:07:50
  was shot. We heard about it Within hours.
• 1:07:53
  Within hours, we knew who the suspect was. We knew everything about
• 1:07:57
  it. Interesting. Hours. Okay, now we're talking about someone— a near-death experience.
• 1:08:02
  Kyle Shanahan has a near-death experience. One's the wife of
• 1:08:06
  an offensive coordinator. One's a head coach who's coached in 3 Super Bowls.
• 1:08:09
  Okay, fine. We hear about Kyler Murray
• 1:08:14
  having a weird thing in his contract about video games within days of it
• 1:08:18
  happening. We hear about Lamar Jackson,
• 1:08:23
  like completely made up shit. We hear about Jalen
• 1:08:27
  Hurts is a tough teammate to play with from a lot of anonymous sources.
• 1:08:31
  We heard, we heard that Shedeur wore headphones.
• 1:08:35
  Now these are all anonymous, anonymous. They are just leaking
• 1:08:39
  this information out. We need— they are just— they can't
• 1:08:42
  keep the information in. The leaks are leaking everywhere. How are we ever going
• 1:08:46
  to keep information in? So when And you ask us, why would we need
• 1:08:50
  to know about a car crash? Because we are operating
• 1:08:54
  under the existing context of
• 1:08:57
  media where nothing exists outside
• 1:09:02
  of the leak, the leak economy.
• 1:09:06
  You— do I care that Kyle Shanahan got in a car crash?
• 1:09:11
  Not on its face. Face. Do I care that a
• 1:09:15
  head coach might miss the beginning of training camp because he's injured that
• 1:09:19
  badly? Yes. Do I think that that affects football operations?
• 1:09:23
  As somebody in NFL media, do I care about that? Yes. Do I think
• 1:09:27
  that if there is potential criminality at play, that's something
• 1:09:31
  we need to know about, considering we should know that about people making
• 1:09:34
  gajillions of dollars on our televisions? Yes. I'm not playing
• 1:09:39
  this game with you fucking assholes. I'm not playing this, this let's
• 1:09:42
  play dumb bullshit. Of course we care.
• 1:09:46
  And by the way, if we're gonna not care, I need you to shut the
• 1:09:49
  fuck up about literally everything else that is ever reported out
• 1:09:53
  of NFL media in a timely 1 to 2 hour to
• 1:09:57
  1 to 2 day fashion for the rest of fucking time. And you definitely,
• 1:10:01
  if you ever said a goddamn thing about Diana
• 1:10:04
  Rossini potentially having a sexual relationship with a head
• 1:10:08
  coach, as, as potentially ending sports media,
• 1:10:12
  but you don't think it's a problem that ESPN coordinated with the
• 1:10:16
  49ers, the NFL, and Mike Kyle Shanahan
• 1:10:20
  and the police potentially— and the police potentially, by the way, very likely—
• 1:10:24
  to, to release this information nearly 2 weeks after it happened?
• 1:10:29
  I have news for you. We clocked your shit 4 months ago when this other
• 1:10:33
  fucking shit broke. We called this Go back,
• 1:10:36
  go look at the shit. We have it on fucking record. We told you you
• 1:10:39
  were a bunch of hypocrites who didn't actually care about reporting, and you're proving it
• 1:10:43
  in our comments. So thank you, Weston, for the fucking question. You can't figure
• 1:10:47
  it out because it's fucking weird. Yeah, I, I, I— the fact— how about
• 1:10:51
  this? We don't know when Kyle Shanahan's coming back. We, we do not know.
• 1:10:55
  There's no return date. By the way, the 49ers were like, he's not going to
• 1:10:58
  be there for training camp, but everything's fine. Totally fucking Totally normal. By the way,
• 1:11:02
  totally normal. Just this team is a perennial contender.
• 1:11:06
  This team is a perennial contender. Totally normal. And they are acting like 40
• 1:11:10
  stitches in the face, broken hand, broken rib, broken fucking— like they're trying
• 1:11:14
  to tell you he has a fucking cold. They— well, they said he has a
• 1:11:18
  severe concussion, which I believe he has a severe concussion.
• 1:11:21
  They're acting like that's the worst thing that happened to him. I'm thinking that the
• 1:11:24
  severe concussion is why he told the truth about the accident. And maybe that is
• 1:11:28
  the truth. Truth. And, and the thing is,
• 1:11:31
  why are you— if, if this happened to anybody else,
• 1:11:34
  we'd be wondering if they're going to be able to start the season. Why?
• 1:11:37
  Like, it's so stupid. So by the way, Megan in our chat,
• 1:11:41
  and yeah, elephant in the room, everyone that we— every
• 1:11:45
  person that we've mentioned outside of Shanahan was Black.
• 1:11:48
  That is true. Can you believe it? I fucking
• 1:11:52
  can't believe it. What are the fucking odds? Can't believe Yeah, can't believe it.
• 1:11:55
  Can't believe it. Know everything about what a bad teammate Jalen Hurts is, but nope.
• 1:11:59
  Near-death experience for Kyle Shanahan. Now it's all good. It's a cold. He's fine.
• 1:12:03
  All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to go to the
• 1:12:06
  most positive story on our timeline because we have unsurprisingly run
• 1:12:10
  long on these topics. No way. And I know,
• 1:12:13
  right? That never happens to us.
• 1:12:16
  This was a really good one and it's a positive way to close out the
• 1:12:19
  show. I wanted to— I wanted to yell about WWE and media. Well,
• 1:12:24
  we might be able to get to it if we're able. Let's see. Let's see.
• 1:12:27
  So because everyone's saying Crash Out Cody is their favorite Cody. Oh, well, listen.
• 1:12:31
  And so, okay, so we'll see. But we have to get some positive news.
• 1:12:34
  Yes, we do. Yes, it was requested by a very good follower. Let's hear it.
• 1:12:37
  So John Winning 84, who's super supportive all the time, he said, I'd love
• 1:12:41
  to get some old school sports talk. Let's do it. That speaks positively about players.
• 1:12:45
  I want to hear what positives could, you know, Justin Fields bring to the Chiefs
• 1:12:49
  or the rising star of AZ FUD or These kinds of things. Um, you know,
• 1:12:53
  he talked about the Minnesota Vixen winning a national championship, which I think is so
• 1:12:57
  cute. Like, this is a person who really fucking cares and loves sports, and I
• 1:13:00
  love that. I love that there are people who follow us who are like,
• 1:13:03
  hey, for whatever reason I connect with your stuff and I actually love sports.
• 1:13:06
  That says a lot about us. So my question that
• 1:13:10
  I figured, you know, those are some people that he loves talking about, but he
• 1:13:13
  just wants to hear positivity and ball knowledge. Let's pick a couple of athletes that
• 1:13:16
  we're vibing with right now and And just fucking talk about some people that
• 1:13:20
  are, that are making us like sports. Oh, you know, let me, let me start
• 1:13:22
  with one. Yeah. And there's a little bit of this, so I apologize for this
• 1:13:25
  because I know a lot of people want to vilify the Dodgers a lot.
• 1:13:27
  Sure. I totally get that. If, if you're— this is, this is all about who's
• 1:13:31
  bringing you joy. This is what's bringing me joy. Like, I know everybody looks at
• 1:13:35
  the Dodgers and they're like, oh, all the money. Shohei Ohtani, Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman.
• 1:13:39
  Outside of like, yeah, like Mookie's having kind of a down year,
• 1:13:42
  but Mookie's like, he's Mookie. Like, it's all good. Freddie is doing Freddie things like
• 1:13:46
  he always does. And of course, Shohei Ohtani. Shohei Ohtani. Yeah. The biggest,
• 1:13:50
  most impactful Dodgers this year are not those
• 1:13:54
  names. Yeah. The biggest, most impactful Dodgers. There were 5 official
• 1:13:59
  All-Stars in the All-Star Game from the Dodgers this year. These were— Shohei
• 1:14:04
  Ohtani couldn't go because he had his knee drained. Yeah. So that's why I'm saying
• 1:14:06
  5. They replaced Shohei with somebody else. 3 of
• 1:14:10
  them are not even close to superstars, are the superstars.
• 1:14:13
  Like, one of those All-Stars was Max Muncy. And those of you that want
• 1:14:17
  to say, well, Max Muncy's a star— Max Muncy was a castoff from the Oakland
• 1:14:20
  A's. Yeah, he was a star to you now. He was a Triple-A castoff from
• 1:14:24
  the Oakland A's that got— that the Dodgers picked up on a whim and he
• 1:14:27
  turned into a star with the Dodgers. He makes $10 million. He made
• 1:14:31
  another All-Star team and started in this game. I fucking love that. He reminds me
• 1:14:35
  so much of the, like, all those players that were on that 2015 Royals team.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah, like remember where they were like, they were like nobody's but awesome and they
• 1:14:42
  were all separate. There was a couple like, you know, but like, but they were
• 1:14:44
  so young, but then like no one was like a superstar. Yeah, it was just
• 1:14:47
  a team. It was just a bunch of dudes and they got contracts and I
• 1:14:49
  loved them. Yeah, amazing. Another one of those All-Stars was,
• 1:14:53
  was Andy, Andy Páez. Andy Páez makes major
• 1:14:57
  league minimum. He is a homegrown Dodger. He started as an outfielder in the
• 1:15:01
  All-Star Game this year. Andy Páez is known by fucking no one in the star—
• 1:15:05
  you look at the Dodgers, you don't think Andy Páez. Andy Páez at third 30
• 1:15:07
  home runs last year. Annie Báez made an outfield catch in the 9th inning that
• 1:15:10
  saved the World Series for the Dodgers. Like, and then
• 1:15:14
  the last All-Star, which I was putting together a huge campaign
• 1:15:17
  for, which is Robleski, left-handed starter. You know why Robleski's
• 1:15:22
  in the big leagues this year? Because Blake Snell and Tyler Glasnow got hurt,
• 1:15:25
  and then Justin Robleski went in there and dominated. He's been the best
• 1:15:29
  pitcher on the Dodgers this year. He's been better than Yamamoto. He's been
• 1:15:33
  better than Shohei Ohtani. He's been the best pitcher on the Dodgers from Jump
• 1:15:37
  Street. He was an All-Star this year. Justin Robleski, Andy Páez,
• 1:15:41
  Max Muncy. You know who else I'm gonna throw on the list, even though he's
• 1:15:44
  a little bit of a fiery kid? Dalton Rushing is a rookie who,
• 1:15:48
  yeah, he's a little wired off a little bit. He causes some problems.
• 1:15:51
  Oh, I swear to God, every white MLB player is like that dude.
• 1:15:55
  Yeah, no, no, he is. Almost all of them are like exactly that guy.
• 1:15:58
  He's fucking wired a little off. And I probably wouldn't like him
• 1:16:02
  if I knew him personally, but whatever. We don't know enough. But I don't know
• 1:16:05
  enough about him. So great. So, but like, this kid is taking over for,
• 1:16:08
  for, for Will Smith and he's done a phenomenal fucking
• 1:16:11
  job. Absolutely. Like phenomenal. He homered last night.
• 1:16:14
  Like, these are players that
• 1:16:18
  are actually carrying the Los Angeles Dodgers to the best record
• 1:16:23
  in baseball. And all of you that are pointing out what the Dodgers spend,
• 1:16:26
  you're actually missing what I think is the best story in baseball.
• 1:16:30
  This is like a baby group of Dodgers that have been unbelievable.
• 1:16:34
  Which, by the way, you know, baseball— and I actually feel this way about like
• 1:16:38
  most sports I've watched. I watch a lot of sports and I— the through
• 1:16:42
  line in most sports is that more than anything,
• 1:16:46
  more than talent, more than payroll,
• 1:16:50
  is just that when you're on a heater,
• 1:16:54
  when you are on a roll, when you start getting hot— like,
• 1:16:58
  we talk about it when we were in fucking, like, little kids in gym
• 1:17:01
  class— when someone's on a heater, it's a real thing.
• 1:17:05
  That's a real thing that happens in sports. There's no
• 1:17:09
  reason on planet Earth that the 2026 Red Sox should have
• 1:17:12
  won 15 fucking games. No, none. What are you fucking talking about?
• 1:17:15
  They hadn't done that since the 1940s. What are you fucking talking about? This team
• 1:17:19
  did that? That team. That's not— they are going to be lost
• 1:17:23
  to time. It's just a vibe
• 1:17:27
  and player vibes. Players win titles there.
• 1:17:31
  Yes, we've, we've gotten a little off track with some of these superstar Dodgers
• 1:17:35
  teams and some of these like other that have won. But realistically, if you look
• 1:17:38
  over the course of, of the, the winning MLB,
• 1:17:43
  you know, anybody who's won a World Series, you've got the dynasties, you got
• 1:17:47
  the fucking, you know, Yankees, right? Guess who the Yankees had? Vibes guys
• 1:17:52
  that carried them when the stars weren't there. And the Dodgers have that this year.
• 1:17:55
  They haven't had it as much in a couple of seasons. Some of theirs,
• 1:17:58
  it's been like carried by stars, but there's always been one or two vibes
• 1:18:02
  guys at least. And Kike Hernandez is— when I say vibes guy, and when I—
• 1:18:05
  exactly. When I say vibes guy, it does not take away talent. That's not what
• 1:18:09
  I'm saying. I'm saying you're just— you're not fucking Shohei. You're not going to end
• 1:18:13
  up in the Hall of Fame. No, Shohei is a Hall of Famer. Right.
• 1:18:14
  Like, you're not Clayton Kershaw, you're not these, like, right? That's what
• 1:18:18
  all I mean. And by the way, and a lot of those people end up
• 1:18:21
  being World Series, you know, MVPs. Yeah. So I love
• 1:18:24
  that. And I completely agree. I think that that's something that I really love
• 1:18:28
  in general about not just baseball, but sports, is,
• 1:18:32
  is finding the people who are the little weird cogs in the wheel
• 1:18:36
  that make everything turn, that aren't the superstars. And here, here's just
• 1:18:40
  like, like my last little bit on why I think that Dodgers are really,
• 1:18:42
  really kind of fun to watch and really like a good story. I know you
• 1:18:47
  guys are, you guys are letting talking points dictate your thoughts
• 1:18:51
  about certain things, and that's a problem. You need to just watch, use your eyeballs.
• 1:18:55
  The Dodgers have the best record in baseball in this entire season.
• 1:18:58
  They've had almost at every single point of the season have
• 1:19:02
  had nearly $200 million of their active payroll on
• 1:19:06
  the injured list. Yeah, they have been doing this by committee.
• 1:19:10
  It has been, honest to God,
• 1:19:14
  so astonishing and fun to watch, and I wish people
• 1:19:19
  would pay attention to that. My thing that I'm loving,
• 1:19:23
  um, first of all, I just told you I'm really heading, uh, I'm really excited
• 1:19:27
  to be heading into NFL season. Um, I need it.
• 1:19:31
  I have not been doing well in terms of just like my
• 1:19:35
  overall, um, like I'm struggling. I'm struggling financially.
• 1:19:38
  I'm struggling to figure out what the next thing is going to be that actually
• 1:19:41
  get— oh, you're in the dark now. Moody.
• 1:19:45
  Okay, well, I don't know why Cody does have lights. They're just dead right now.
• 1:19:49
  I have no idea why. I charged those batteries for hours. That should not be
• 1:19:53
  the case. Well, here we are. I mean, if it was gonna happen, is it
• 1:19:56
  gonna happen today? I'm just glad it's my light. You, you need to look the
• 1:19:58
  way you look. No one gives a shit how I look. I do like how
• 1:20:01
  this keeps happening to us. Because it was happening to us, remember when I was,
• 1:20:05
  um, my ring light was dying at home? You know what? I actually like the
• 1:20:08
  bootiness of my shot. Mocha, do I look better now? You look,
• 1:20:12
  yeah, you look, the lighting is, you're casting a— I'm not gonna lie to you,
• 1:20:16
  this is actually— It looks like I'm arguing with, it looks like we're arguing,
• 1:20:20
  like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. It looks like we're
• 1:20:23
  having an angel-devil conversation. And I'm about
• 1:20:28
  to talk about the NFL, which makes no sense. But like, I really need the
• 1:20:32
  NFL season to come. And something I've been thinking a lot about is that,
• 1:20:36
  you know, people spend a lot of time talking about NFL quarterbacks,
• 1:20:39
  but not in a way that's fun. That's not in a way that's like,
• 1:20:42
  hey, how cool is this? Yeah. And I think that, you know, since I
• 1:20:46
  started watching the NFL and then since I've been covering it,
• 1:20:50
  quarterbacking has never been better. Like, we have never had more diversity at the
• 1:20:54
  position. And we've also never just like— we've just never had better quarterbacking. And I
• 1:20:57
  just want to remind everybody that in 2024, in the
• 1:21:02
  2024 draft, the number
• 1:21:05
  1, number 2, and number 3 picks
• 1:21:11
  were Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Drake Maye.
• 1:21:14
  That was 1, 2, 3 in the 2024 draft.
• 1:21:18
  God, that's a fucking good draft. That is unfucking
• 1:21:22
  believable. Boy, that is a good— these are 3 good hits.
• 1:21:26
  Superstar franchise fucking quarterbacks.
• 1:21:29
  Now, nice. Caleb Williams is my favorite of the
• 1:21:33
  3. He was my favorite of the 3 at the time. I,
• 1:21:36
  I'm not retconning this. He's still my favorite of the 3.
• 1:21:39
  He's— and he's still my favorite of the 3. Uh,
• 1:21:43
  there's, there's personality elements to it and star factor elements
• 1:21:47
  to it. There's also just the way he plays football. I like, I, I like
• 1:21:51
  so much of what I saw on the— in the back end of the season,
• 1:21:53
  in the playoffs, from Caleb Williams, to the point where Like,
• 1:21:57
  I, like, I, I, if I were to bet who
• 1:22:00
  is going to take the biggest leap of the 3 this year from
• 1:22:04
  2nd to 3rd year, it would be Caleb. Um, Jayden Daniels and Drake
• 1:22:08
  Maye, I mean, these are 2 of the better young quarterbacks in the league.
• 1:22:11
  Drake Maye just played in the fucking Super Bowl, uh,
• 1:22:14
  was an MVP contender all year. Jayden Daniels had one of the best rookie seasons
• 1:22:18
  we've ever seen. And now we're heading into year 3 with these 2 dudes.
• 1:22:22
  And we all act like— we all act like there's a fucking problem at
• 1:22:25
  this position. Like the argument, the arguments
• 1:22:29
  of the, of the top 10 quarterbacks and who's the greatest and who's the whatever
• 1:22:32
  and who should be in the fucking top 5 and who should— I don't fucking
• 1:22:36
  care. What I care about is the fact that 2
• 1:22:40
  years, 2 years and change ago, we're in year 3, 1,
• 1:22:43
  2, 3 went fucking franchise.
• 1:22:47
  Those dudes aren't going anywhere. None of those dudes are going to— there's no like
• 1:22:49
  third year where we're going to find out they suck. It's just not happening.
• 1:22:52
  I know it's not happening. I love— I love
• 1:22:57
  the fact that the quarterbacking position, if you look
• 1:23:01
  at those 3 players, looks completely different. They play completely differently.
• 1:23:05
  They have completely different styles. They play for completely different coaches. They have completely
• 1:23:08
  different approaches to the game, completely different personalities. And I like every
• 1:23:12
  single— I like something I like a lot about every single
• 1:23:16
  one of them. Caleb Williams, I think, is the most
• 1:23:21
  like naturally physically gifted. And I don't actually mean
• 1:23:25
  that in a like Lamar Jackson, Steve Young way.
• 1:23:28
  Yeah, I mean it in a field vision way. I think
• 1:23:33
  he sees the field better than any quarterback in the league outside
• 1:23:37
  of the, the greats like that are still playing, like Patrick Mahomes,
• 1:23:40
  Lamar, Josh Allen to some extent. I think Jayden Daniels
• 1:23:45
  is the heart, is the one who understands
• 1:23:48
  the play calling the best. He breaks down play calling and
• 1:23:52
  understands exactly what defenses are doing better than anybody in that, in those,
• 1:23:56
  in that young group. And I think that Drake May is actually
• 1:24:00
  the one who's like physically the most capable of
• 1:24:03
  being the most diverse, which is interesting because he's— all of these guys can run.
• 1:24:07
  All of these guys are capable of being dual threat mobile QBs.
• 1:24:10
  Yeah. But Drake Maye has actually utilized that the best in
• 1:24:15
  terms of like— and I think part of that is Josh McDaniels' playcalling in the
• 1:24:19
  last, last year. He just has like the most— probably the best offensive coordinator on
• 1:24:22
  that front. He is very good. Something I'm just so excited about
• 1:24:25
  is we're getting year 3 of the top 3 picks 2 seasons ago,
• 1:24:30
  and these guys are fucking exceptional. And yes, we argue about Lamar Jackson
• 1:24:34
  and Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow and whatever. And they still
• 1:24:38
  seem young to me, and they are in the grand scheme of things. We have
• 1:24:41
  guys— I mean, Aaron Rodgers is still playing and he's 116,
• 1:24:46
  I believe. Yeah, 117. I got to do the math again. Yeah, the one.
• 1:24:50
  Um, but his— Cody, did you hear his wife? Um, he spoke with
• 1:24:54
  his wife and she convinced him that he had to do— that he should play
• 1:24:56
  one more year and then he's gonna retire after this year. His totally— his totally
• 1:25:00
  real wife. Totally very real. Totally real. Not at all.
• 1:25:03
  Wife named Britney that no one has discovered.
• 1:25:07
  No leaks. Totally real. Does he keep her chained
• 1:25:10
  in a basement, or is she real? Um, it's a real Miscavige
• 1:25:15
  situation. Sure. Yeah, it's a very Shelley Miscavige— very— where's
• 1:25:18
  Shelley? Where's Shelley? Where's Britney? I've been asking the question, where's Shelley?
• 1:25:23
  Where's Britney? And where's Britney? Uh, shout out to the Scientology,
• 1:25:26
  uh, LA people. There's only so many of you that'll get that joke. LA and
• 1:25:31
  not know the Scientology lore. That's a good joke and
• 1:25:35
  factual thing that might actually be taking place. And shout out to people who live
• 1:25:39
  in Clearwater who aren't Scientologists. By the way, you are a Scientologist, you suck.
• 1:25:42
  Yeah, no thank you. Um, so anyway, there we go. You did
• 1:25:46
  your baseball, I did my NFL, we had a blast. I'm really excited. It's actually
• 1:25:50
  something— even talking about it lowered my cortisol levels. It made me happy
• 1:25:53
  because I know this show, we get a lot, we get really into our opinions
• 1:25:58
  and our feelings because there's a lot of darkness around sports.
• 1:26:02
  And we've described the show before as our almost
• 1:26:06
  like, you know, we're the regulars. We made this bar aesthetic
• 1:26:10
  and idea of this show that we're just a couple of disgruntled employees need
• 1:26:15
  to sitting down to talk about the actual evil in our industry.
• 1:26:19
  And that is a lot of it. But there is the reason why
• 1:26:23
  we do it, at least for me, and I don't want to speak for you,
• 1:26:26
  of course. Please never do. Don't ever speak for me, Cody.
• 1:26:29
  But I feel like we're going to agree on this. Excuse me. I'm going to
• 1:26:30
  speak for— I'm going to speak for you. Excuse me. Allow me to explain.
• 1:26:34
  Dare I say mansplain this to you? Thank you. Okay.
• 1:26:38
  The idea is we do it because we do love sports.
• 1:26:42
  That's the reason. And the reason we love sports
• 1:26:46
  is for the things we just talked about. Like, that's what we
• 1:26:49
  want more of. Sports is not allowing
• 1:26:53
  it. Sports is making it more of the opposite.
• 1:26:57
  And it really fucking bothers me. And it bothers—
• 1:27:01
  and I know it bothers you. You've dedicated your life to this industry.
• 1:27:05
  I, I dedicated my life and my body to this industry, and I
• 1:27:09
  am in physical pain every day because of it.
• 1:27:12
  And I'm constantly, because of how dark this
• 1:27:16
  industry is, how dark the sports media industry
• 1:27:19
  has gotten. And by the way, I've been now in the sports media, specifically sports
• 1:27:23
  media, for the last 10 years now. It has gotten so
• 1:27:28
  significantly darker, right, in the last 5. Yeah. Uh, and I
• 1:27:31
  mean, and I'd say the darkest in the last 1.5.
• 1:27:36
  Um, the actual sports of it all have really
• 1:27:40
  gotten darker, and that's a really ugly place to be.
• 1:27:43
  Um, we love sports, we hate the sports industry.
• 1:27:47
  Yeah. And that's something I think we can both agree on and both
• 1:27:51
  desperately want to bring— we're never going to be able to fix it,
• 1:27:55
  it's— that's the thing. But we can bring us back, at least, or try
• 1:27:58
  to bring us back to a semblance, a semblance
• 1:28:02
  of reality. What we can do is like,
• 1:28:07
  at the very least, not let sports become
• 1:28:11
  a thing that people— that doesn't, that doesn't give us
• 1:28:14
  the community that we— that it brings to people. And that, you know,
• 1:28:18
  that I don't know what's going to happen to sports media. Me neither.
• 1:28:21
  Um, I— when I came into the industry in, in 2010 as
• 1:28:25
  an intern in college, it was so fun.
• 1:28:29
  It was just— and I don't— it wasn't just youth because it lasted for a
• 1:28:32
  long time. And even it was— even when I was stressed out and even when
• 1:28:35
  everything sucked, The, the industry had this like future to
• 1:28:39
  it. Um, this is end of times shit happening.
• 1:28:42
  Yeah. But, uh, as long as sports are being played,
• 1:28:45
  we are going to have reasons to connect with each other. And it is important
• 1:28:49
  that we find those like little pockets where we're able to do that.
• 1:28:54
  Um, let's, let's just take a few minutes since we've run long
• 1:28:57
  anyway, as we close out. Why not?
• 1:29:01
  Let me preface this. I used to work in the wrestling industry and
• 1:29:05
  I never did. I never did. And I do mean both current
• 1:29:09
  major companies. Yeah. Yeah, I did work for AEW and WWE. If you're an OG
• 1:29:13
  The Regulars listener, you know Cody has AEW and WWE
• 1:29:18
  experience and has beef with both. This is specifically about
• 1:29:21
  WWE, which— and I will say this, and I can't believe I'm saying this— is
• 1:29:25
  the worst of the two. Yes. And he's back, but WWE's
• 1:29:30
  worse. SummerSlam is coming up tomorrow. My very good friend
• 1:29:34
  Ladarius Brown— no idea. Ladarius Brown's one of the—
• 1:29:37
  like, he's been covering the WWE forever,
• 1:29:40
  and he wanted to know if we had any thoughts about it coming up.
• 1:29:44
  I did know, and I'll tell you why I knew. Now, I clocked—
• 1:29:47
  I was a fan for a while. I started clocking out right around when Brock
• 1:29:51
  Lesnar came back and everything was going to shit. It just wasn't interesting to me
• 1:29:54
  and I was bummed. Yeah, there was a bunch of stuff I wish I didn't
• 1:29:57
  have to bail on. I popped back in when Sami Zayn finally won a title.
• 1:30:00
  That was a cool hour to rip it away from him immediately
• 1:30:04
  again, by the way. I fucking hate it. And it's so weird, it's like,
• 1:30:07
  when did CM Punk become the company guy? But please
• 1:30:11
  don't even, dude. Please don't even— remember when he was CM Punk?
• 1:30:14
  Please don't even fucking— CM fucking Yacht Rock,
• 1:30:18
  change your name, bro. Pathetic. What happened to Phil? Uh,
• 1:30:23
  I will say I clocked in a little bit in time for SummerSlam for
• 1:30:27
  2 reasons. I like Charlotte Flair, uh, and what she's got
• 1:30:31
  going on right now. Very talented. And, um,
• 1:30:35
  Seth Rollins is going to have a match with Roman Reigns, and it's a
• 1:30:39
  long time coming thing. And I've just— I always really loved Seth Rollins
• 1:30:43
  as a wrestler. Um, I always liked him. He's a Like, he's a really
• 1:30:48
  fucking great wrestler. I think he's the best, uh, wrestler among the men on the
• 1:30:51
  mic by like a pretty large margin. Really? I never actually— that's funny. I,
• 1:30:54
  I've— it's not a knock on him. His mic skills were never for me.
• 1:30:57
  Well, you, you haven't watched in a while. Yeah, it is true. I have not.
• 1:31:00
  I'm telling you right now, he's the best in the company by a mile,
• 1:31:03
  and he's really fucking good. He's— he helped Cody Rhodes. He was essentially the only
• 1:31:07
  reason Cody Rhodes had a storyline when he won. Cody Rhodes is so bad on
• 1:31:10
  the mic, I don't know what to do with myself. And Yeah, but also
• 1:31:14
  in-ring, he's an incredible technician. But on top of everything else, they have— this
• 1:31:18
  is a storyline that these are the few things that pay off. If you— it's
• 1:31:21
  just like soap operas. I watched General Hospital since I was a little kid.
• 1:31:23
  Of course, when something exists for 12 years, that's what's going on
• 1:31:26
  with Roman and Seth. So I'm going to clock back in because I do actually—
• 1:31:30
  I do think these 2 people have great in-ring chemistry, and I'm excited to
• 1:31:34
  see how this plays out. And then I'm going to clock right back
• 1:31:37
  out. That's my prerogative. Okay. Now, what I think is really fucking interesting
• 1:31:41
  is that you didn't know SummerSlam was— had no idea it was this weekend.
• 1:31:44
  And I am not surprised by that because I didn't know
• 1:31:49
  anything that has been happening for months because I wasn't like
• 1:31:52
  actively logging in to look. But what I do actively do is log into Netflix
• 1:31:57
  and ESPN all the time on my streaming services.
• 1:32:02
  So I recently went to go check something on ESPN about what was
• 1:32:05
  going on with WWE and Now ESPN has this huge deal
• 1:32:09
  with WWE, Cody. Yes, they do. When I tell you, when I
• 1:32:13
  tell you, I— you know how they have the all the leagues, all the like
• 1:32:17
  things they cover? I click, click, click, click, click, click, clicked.
• 1:32:20
  WWE was behind like, I don't know,
• 1:32:24
  fucking college hockey at the very— it was the last
• 1:32:28
  thing, okay? I haven't seen a fucking promo.
• 1:32:32
  I haven't seen a fucking Billboard?
• 1:32:35
  Where is the promotion for the, like, 2nd to 3rd largest
• 1:32:39
  PLE in all of WWE and all of wrestling?
• 1:32:43
  I'm glad you said 3rd because I would agree. I used to say it was
• 1:32:46
  Mania, Rumble. I think it's Mania and Rumble. By the way, the only one I
• 1:32:49
  ever really truly loved to watch was the Rumble. Rumble's my favorite by far.
• 1:32:52
  Rumble was always my favorite thing to watch in WWE. Hell yeah, brother. I fucking
• 1:32:56
  love that. Okay, that's why you're the best. So, like, that was cool. Oh,
• 1:32:59
  he always has. This, I think, is really fascinating because since I've been watching since
• 1:33:04
  about 2019, 2020, their promotion
• 1:33:09
  was— I worked for Fox Sports. I saw it like they were— we
• 1:33:13
  were crushing it. I know. I remember USA, TNT, whoever it might
• 1:33:16
  have been, always crushed it. You could not avoid it. ESPN has relegated the
• 1:33:20
  WWE to fucking third-rate bullshit programming.
• 1:33:25
  And part of me wants to be
• 1:33:29
  mad at ESPN, right? Because like, fuck you guys, you're so bad at this.
• 1:33:32
  Like, you're so fucking bad at everything. But part of me is also like,
• 1:33:35
  WWE was so craven and stupid that they thought that they were going to
• 1:33:39
  be prioritized on ESPN. And the best ESPN
• 1:33:44
  has done is, is platform Danhausen as,
• 1:33:48
  as like a Knicks savior because Stephen A. Smith took a
• 1:33:52
  liking to him. And, and lets Seth Rollins be like the third-rate,
• 1:33:55
  you know, sports media personality on, on, on morning shows.
• 1:34:00
  Is that not— I literally like, what are we fucking doing?
• 1:34:04
  This is so funny. ESPN literally said we really, really, really want—
• 1:34:07
  are you trying to tank? Like, do they? Because now I'm wondering if Jimmy Pitaro
• 1:34:12
  has like a problem with Triple H. Like, it actually seems like they're trying to
• 1:34:15
  tank the WWE. That's how little they care about promoting SummerSlam.
• 1:34:19
  No, I think This is what I think, and I might be wrong. I legitimately
• 1:34:22
  might be wrong. I don't know. This is my take. I'm willing to believe you're
• 1:34:25
  wrong. Believe me. Well, you shouldn't, because I'm usually right. You know that.
• 1:34:28
  But this is my thought process.
• 1:34:32
  Now that WWE is actually within the
• 1:34:36
  actual ESPN ecosystem, is it possible at
• 1:34:41
  all that perhaps the actual real popularity and
• 1:34:45
  money behind WWE might just
• 1:34:49
  not be as popular as WWE wants you to think because we
• 1:34:53
  live so much on social media and so much of social media is very easily
• 1:34:57
  purchased. So I don't think WWE is
• 1:35:01
  nearly as popular as media outlets has
• 1:35:06
  very much tried to make them. But isn't that kind of to my point?
• 1:35:08
  No, but, but I think the reason that WWE— that ESPN. I don't think this
• 1:35:12
  is like, oh, ESPN is just bundled. I think this is ESPN putting
• 1:35:16
  them basically where the demand is.
• 1:35:20
  I don't think WWE is nearly as popular with actual
• 1:35:23
  sports fans. Halfway. I'm going to meet you halfway. I,
• 1:35:26
  I like that. And I think that that says a lot about where it might
• 1:35:30
  land among the really major sports. Like, right. Like, it's like we know
• 1:35:34
  it's not NFL. WWE's fandom is an internet fandom. But what I'm saying
• 1:35:38
  is like, it should be promoted in
• 1:35:42
  the summer months where we've got like— so we've got no NBA.
• 1:35:46
  The NFL hasn't really kicked off yet. We're like, I mean, we are
• 1:35:49
  in a place where you could easily be promoting WWE. It's not behind college
• 1:35:53
  hockey. Okay. Like, let's be real now. By the
• 1:35:57
  way, Dan Turner says Seth does a great job on hosting Rich Eisen's show.
• 1:36:00
  I think he does fine. Yeah. No, I think— I also
• 1:36:05
  think that like I don't like it either. I also think that like the bar
• 1:36:07
  sometimes is like, um,
• 1:36:11
  really low, like extremely low. And I, and I'm gonna say this as kindly as
• 1:36:14
  I can, can say it to the person who was commenting because I don't think
• 1:36:18
  that they're coming from this place, but like I think that a lot of
• 1:36:22
  times what you hear is just like another white man who asks very
• 1:36:25
  similar questions to Rich Eisen and it has a very similar sort
• 1:36:29
  of ethos. Yeah, exactly. And like, I don't think that's
• 1:36:34
  super exceptional. Rich Eisen, I do think is
• 1:36:38
  great, but I actually don't think the thing that makes
• 1:36:41
  him great is his interview show. No, no, I actually like his personality.
• 1:36:45
  That's why I like him. And also like, he as an anchor
• 1:36:49
  and like what he brought to like highlights and like whatever was actually like,
• 1:36:53
  I think he's done great interviews, but like, I don't think it's hard to do
• 1:36:56
  great interviews with fucking Matt Damon. It— I think Matt
• 1:36:59
  Damon could do an interview with a brick wall that's charming, right? Like, he— Rich
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  is awesome. I like him as a person. I root for Rich.
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  But also, like, filling in for Rich is not the same
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  sort of difficulty level, uh,
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  on that show. I don't think as it would be to fill in for,
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  like— like, I would love to see Seth Rollins fill in for SVP. SVP's SportsCenter,
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  then I will be intrigued at his fucking broadcasting ability. Does this
• 1:37:29
  make sense? No, no, it does, because the actual broadcasting nature of it, you have
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  to, you have to, uh, SVP is a good call because SVP does a combination
• 1:37:36
  of that and he's also doing multiple segments of a different type of broadcasting.
• 1:37:40
  He's got like, I mean, that IFB is fucking cooking. Just, just full transparency,
• 1:37:44
  so when I'm doing like my morning show, just so you understand like what is
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  taking place, so when I was on the Carton Show, when I was on When
• 1:37:49
  I'm doing any of these shows, there is at least 1 or 2 to 3
• 1:37:53
  people in my ear at all times. Yeah, they're giving me time, they're giving me
• 1:37:55
  extra points, they're giving me things that I have to wrap up. So while I'm
• 1:37:58
  listening to 1 to 2 other people and I'm directing traffic, I also have 3
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  to 4 people in my ears telling me timings, what other things I have to
• 1:38:05
  bring up, other topics, get off this topic, move on to the next topic,
• 1:38:08
  hey, this has got to happen. Like, it's a shit ton of things. And it's
• 1:38:12
  actually, believe it or not, I don't find it super difficult. I— but,
• 1:38:16
  but I could definitely understand. You know, I take that back.
• 1:38:19
  I've been doing it so long that I don't find it difficult. You're a professional
• 1:38:22
  sports media person. You're not like— again, like, that's not something that someone could just
• 1:38:25
  step into. But you don't just step into that. And by the way, and even
• 1:38:28
  as much experience as you and I both have in our respective, like,
• 1:38:32
  roles that we've had across the course of time, still couldn't just step in and
• 1:38:35
  do it. No, it is a tricky— what SVP does it right. So it's like,
• 1:38:38
  I guess that's all I'm saying is that, like, like a sit-down interview show is
• 1:38:42
  probably about the easiest thing you can do in sports media. Yeah, which is why
• 1:38:45
  people retire into it all the time. It's why Dan Patrick retired into
• 1:38:49
  what he does. He just sits there and fucking yaps with his bros. Again,
• 1:38:52
  nothing to prove to me. I'm not saying that they're not talented. No,
• 1:38:56
  Dan Patrick has a much broader,
• 1:38:59
  um, extremely content bait. Did that just come back on?
• 1:39:03
  The fuck? Mocha, what the fuck? This place is
• 1:39:07
  haunted. No, that's actually fucking nuts.
• 1:39:10
  What the fuck just happened? How did my fucking light turn
• 1:39:14
  off and turn back on? There is full trans— there's no one over
• 1:39:19
  there. Like, that's fucking wild. That's insane. Okay, we've officially gone the
• 1:39:22
  longest we've ever gone on a show. This is not surprising. We haven't seen each
• 1:39:25
  other for 2 weeks. We both had a long time. We missed each other.
• 1:39:28
  I legit missed you. We had— I'm so happy. We needed this.
• 1:39:31
  This was much needed. We missed Mocha. Yeah, before I turned 28 without us.
• 1:39:35
  Happy birthday, Mocha, and happy Happy birthday to your mom, obviously. Mama Fox. My mom
• 1:39:39
  turned a spry 35, which I'm excited about. Good for her. And I— and also,
• 1:39:43
  full transparency, before she— I— we had weeks— I had
• 1:39:47
  weeks long of trauma that I needed to unload on her earlier. So like,
• 1:39:51
  she was also my therapist before the show started. So it's been a fucking wild
• 1:39:54
  day. Listen, you know what? I'm here for all the roles you need me to
• 1:39:56
  be here for. I'm— I'm— I am ride or die. Um, that's my girl,
• 1:40:00
  you know. And here we are, uh, at the end of the show, and we've
• 1:40:04
  Listen, I, I love your— I love the idea of saying fuck
• 1:40:09
  to Adam Schefter or whatever else, but you know what? But seriously, he doesn't actually
• 1:40:12
  deserve that level. He does, because he just made a billion dollars
• 1:40:16
  on the sale of Underdog today. So congratulations, I guess you're a billionaire now.
• 1:40:19
  Because whether you— because whether you believe— okay,
• 1:40:23
  whether you believe that the bloody sock was real or not, what Kirt Schilling did
• 1:40:27
  was actually play baseball and pitch the fuck out of a base— out of a
• 1:40:30
  By the way, I will never, ever say Curt Schilling was bad. Same thing.
• 1:40:33
  Like, like, I'll give you another guy, Trevor Bauer. He could throw a baseball.
• 1:40:36
  He was very good at throwing a baseball. But outside of that, fuck Curt Schilling
• 1:40:39
  and fuck Trevor Bauer. Not as good as Curt Schilling, but not as good as
• 1:40:42
  Curt Schilling. But also fuck Curt Schilling, fuck Trevor Bauer, fuck everybody but me
• 1:40:46
  and Cody and Mocha. Quite honestly, we are the regulars. Like, share, subscribe.
• 1:40:49
  Hope you enjoyed our— all of our listener questions and we will see
• 1:40:53
  you on Monday.