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Airfare Trends for 2026 · The Frommer's Travel Show

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  Foreign.
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  And
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Farmer
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  Travel
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  show
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  and
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  Happy
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  New
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  Year.
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  It's
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  great
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  to
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  be
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  here
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  in
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  2026
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  with
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  you.
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  And
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  we
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  have
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  a
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  guest
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  who
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  I
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  think
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  will
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  elucidate
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  trends
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  that
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  are
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  shaping
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  your,
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  your
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  travel
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  in
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  the
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  coming
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  year
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  in
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  2026.
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  His
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  name
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  is
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  Jesse
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  Newgarten.
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  He
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  is
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  the
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  founder
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  and
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  CEO
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  of
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  Dollar
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  Flight
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  Club.
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  Hey,
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  Jesse.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Farmer
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  Travel
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  Show.
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  Thanks,
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  Pauline.
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  So
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  nice
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  to
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  be
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  here.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Well,
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  my
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  pleasure.
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  So
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  in
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  a
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  NutShell,
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  what
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  does
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  Dollar
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  Flight
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  Club
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  do?
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  How
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  does
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  it
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  work?
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  We
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  have
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  one
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  goal
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  in
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  mind.
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  We
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  want
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  to
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  save
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  our
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  members
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  as
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  much
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  money
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  as
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  humanly
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  possible
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  on
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  every
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  flight
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  they
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  take.
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  That's
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  what
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  we
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  do.
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  That's
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  our
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  motto.
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  The
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  way
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  we
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  do
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  it
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  is
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  very
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  simple.
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  You
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  tell
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  us
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  your
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  home
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  airports,
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  where
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  fly
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  out
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  to
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  of
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  you
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  tell
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  us
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  where
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  you
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  generally
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  want
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  to
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  go.
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  And
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  then
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  we
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  look
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  at
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  thousands
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  of
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  routes
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  daily,
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  millions
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  of
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  fares
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  every
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  year,
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  and
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  email
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  and
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  send
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  you
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  a
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  text
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  alert
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  when
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  we
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  find
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  really
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  good
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  deals
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  to
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  places
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  that
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  go.
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  And,
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  and
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  then
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  all
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  do
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  is
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  decide,
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  I'm
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  ready
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  to
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  go,
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  I'm
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  ready
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  to
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  book
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  and
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  go
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  on
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  your
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  way.
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  And
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  that's
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  what
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  we
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  do.
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  Really
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  high
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  level.
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  Yeah,
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  no,
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  absolutely.
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  And
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  you
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  save
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  people
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  money.
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  But
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  you
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  recently
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  put
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  an
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  article
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  up
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  called
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  2026
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  Travel
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  10
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  New
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  Rules
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  for
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  U.S.
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  travelers.
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  And
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  rules,
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  I
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  was
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  really,
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  I
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  was
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  impressed
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  that
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  you
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  included
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  it,
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  but
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  also
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  surprised
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  because,
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  because
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  it
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  seems
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  to
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  undercut
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  your
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  business
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  model.
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  You
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  say
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  in
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  the
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  piece
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  that
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  because
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  of
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  AI,
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  these
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  last
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  minute
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  sales,
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  these
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  surprise
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  sales,
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  these
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  maybe
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  mistake
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  fairs,
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  that,
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  that
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  cut
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  the
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  cost,
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  the
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  window
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  for
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  getting
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  those
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  is
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  shrinking
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  because
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  of
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  AI.
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  Right,
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  that's.
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  That's
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  exactly
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  right.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  AI
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  is
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  really,
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  they're,
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  you
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  know,
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  they
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  are
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  compressing
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  these
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  deal
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  windows.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  in
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  the
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  past
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  deals
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  would
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  be
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  available.
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  We'd
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  see
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  it,
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  you
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  know,
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  say
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  New
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  York
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  to
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  Rome
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  for
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  $300
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  and
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  we'd
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  send
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  it
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  to
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  our
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  members
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  and
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  it'd
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  be
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  available
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  for
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  a
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  couple
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  of
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  days.
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  Right.
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  And
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  that
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  is
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  an
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  outstanding
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  deal
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  to
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  book,
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  you
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  know,
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  on,
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  on
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  a
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  great
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  airline.
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  But
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  today
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  with
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  AI
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  in
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  the
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  mix,
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  you
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  know,
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  when
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  these
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  deals
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  pop
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  up,
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  they're
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  just
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  so
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  optimized
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  that
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  it's
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  not,
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  it's
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  not
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  days
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  anymore,
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  it's
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  hours
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  that
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  they're
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  available.
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  So,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  just
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  makes
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  it
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  a
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  little
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  tougher
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  and
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  it,
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  you
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  know,
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  it's
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  on
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  us
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  to
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  make
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  sure
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  our
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  members
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  know
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  that
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  when
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  we
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  send
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  a
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  deal,
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  you
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  know,
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  take
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  a
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  Look,
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  as
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  soon
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  as
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  you
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  see
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  it,
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  you
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  know,
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  just
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  pause
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  what
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  you're
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  doing
• 3:02
  for
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  a
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  second.
• 3:02
  If
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  it's
• 3:03
  really
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  a
• 3:03
  place
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  you
• 3:03
  want
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  to
• 3:04
  go
• 3:04
  and
• 3:04
  there's
• 3:04
  things
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  that
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  you
• 3:05
  can
• 3:05
  do
• 3:05
  to
• 3:05
  kind
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  of
• 3:06
  get
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  past
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  that,
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  right.
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  It's
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  Most
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  airlines
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  have
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  24
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  hour
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  cancellation
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  for
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  absolutely
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  free.
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  You
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  know
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  that
• 3:12
  that's
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  a
• 3:12
  rule
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  here
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  in
• 3:13
  the
• 3:13
  US
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  see
• 3:14
  a
• 3:14
  deal
• 3:14
  and
• 3:14
  you
• 3:14
  think
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  you
• 3:15
  might
• 3:15
  want
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  to
• 3:15
  go,
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  just
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  book
• 3:16
  it.
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  You
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  know,
• 3:17
  book
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  it
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  if
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  the
• 3:17
  flight's
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  right
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  and
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  then
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  you
• 3:18
  have
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  24
• 3:19
  hours
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  to
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  make
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  a
• 3:20
  decision.
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  No,
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  no
• 3:21
  issues
• 3:21
  getting
• 3:22
  a
• 3:22
  refund
• 3:22
  or
• 3:22
  cancel
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  it.
• 3:23
  That's
• 3:23
  a
• 3:23
  law
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  here
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  the
• 3:24
  US
• 3:24
  So
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  it's
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  a
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  really
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  great
• 3:25
  way
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  to
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  get
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  around
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  just
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  what
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  AI
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  is
• 3:28
  doing
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  here
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  to
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  these
• 3:30
  pricing
• 3:31
  mechanisms.
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  Right.
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  Are
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  you
• 3:33
  going
• 3:33
  to
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  be
• 3:33
  shifting
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  at
• 3:34
  all
• 3:34
  how
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  you
• 3:35
  contact
• 3:36
  your
• 3:36
  subscribers
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  with
• 3:37
  these
• 3:37
  deals
• 3:38
  so
• 3:38
  that
• 3:38
  they
• 3:39
  really
• 3:39
  understand
• 3:40
  they
• 3:40
  have
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  to
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  book
• 3:41
  very
• 3:41
  quickly?
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  Yeah,
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  we
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  are.
• 3:42
  So
• 3:43
  in
• 3:43
  the
• 3:43
  past
• 3:44
  we
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  only
• 3:45
  sent
• 3:45
  emails.
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  So
• 3:46
  we
• 3:46
  would
• 3:46
  just
• 3:46
  email
• 3:47
  you
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  obviously
• 3:48
  everyone's
• 3:48
  busy,
• 3:49
  they're
• 3:49
  at
• 3:49
  work,
• 3:49
  they
• 3:49
  have
• 3:50
  hundreds
• 3:50
  of
• 3:51
  emails
• 3:51
  coming
• 3:51
  in.
• 3:51
  But
• 3:51
  now
• 3:52
  what
• 3:52
  we
• 3:52
  do
• 3:53
  is
• 3:53
  we
• 3:53
  send
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  an
• 3:54
  SMS
• 3:54
  alert.
• 3:54
  If
• 3:55
  it's
• 3:55
  something
• 3:55
  that
• 3:55
  you
• 3:56
  really
• 3:56
  care
• 3:56
  about,
• 3:57
  you
• 3:57
  know,
• 3:57
  you
• 3:57
  tell
• 3:58
  us,
• 3:58
  hey,
• 3:58
  these
• 3:58
  are
• 3:58
  the
• 3:58
  top
• 3:59
  five
• 3:59
  places
• 3:59
  I
• 4:00
  want
• 4:00
  to
• 4:00
  go.
• 4:01
  So
• 4:01
  maybe
• 4:02
  there's,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  know,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  have
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  bucket
• 4:03
  list.
• 4:03
  So
• 4:04
  whatever's
• 4:04
  on
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  bucket
• 4:05
  list,
• 4:05
  if
• 4:05
  we
• 4:05
  find
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  deal
• 4:05
  to
• 4:06
  one
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  those
• 4:06
  places,
• 4:06
  we're
• 4:07
  going
• 4:07
  to
• 4:07
  send
• 4:07
  you
• 4:07
  a
• 4:07
  text
• 4:07
  message
• 4:08
  so
• 4:08
  that
• 4:08
  you
• 4:08
  do
• 4:08
  not
• 4:08
  miss
• 4:09
  it.
• 4:09
  Because
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  is
• 4:09
  not
• 4:10
  what
• 4:10
  we
• 4:10
  want
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  happen.
• 4:11
  So
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  changed
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  little
• 4:12
  bit.
• 4:12
  You
• 4:13
  know,
• 4:13
  everyone
• 4:13
  in
• 4:13
  travel
• 4:14
  is
• 4:14
  obviously
• 4:15
  having
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  change
• 4:15
  quite
• 4:16
  a
• 4:16
  bit,
• 4:17
  particularly
• 4:18
  in
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  past
• 4:19
  couple
• 4:19
  of
• 4:19
  years
• 4:19
  with
• 4:19
  how
• 4:20
  fast
• 4:20
  AI
• 4:21
  has,
• 4:21
  has
• 4:21
  been
• 4:21
  going
• 4:21
  and
• 4:22
  next
• 4:23
  year
• 4:23
  it'll
• 4:23
  probably
• 4:24
  go
• 4:24
  even
• 4:24
  faster.
• 4:25
  So
• 4:25
  we
• 4:25
  just
• 4:25
  all
• 4:26
  have
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  adapt
• 4:26
  and
• 4:27
  use
• 4:27
  it
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  our
• 4:27
  advantage,
• 4:28
  right?
• 4:29
  Yeah,
• 4:29
  no,
• 4:29
  absolutely.
• 4:30
  But
• 4:30
  there
• 4:30
  is
• 4:30
  some
• 4:31
  good
• 4:31
  news
• 4:31
  in
• 4:31
  travel.
• 4:32
  You
• 4:32
  start
• 4:32
  by
• 4:33
  talking
• 4:33
  about
• 4:34
  the
• 4:35
  low
• 4:35
  cost
• 4:36
  long
• 4:36
  haul
• 4:37
  budget
• 4:38
  airlines,
• 4:39
  airlines
• 4:40
  such
• 4:40
  as
• 4:40
  Norse
• 4:41
  and
• 4:41
  Frenchbee,
• 4:42
  both
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  which
• 4:42
  I
• 4:43
  have
• 4:43
  flown.
• 4:44
  And
• 4:44
  you
• 4:44
  say
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  these
• 4:46
  airlines
• 4:46
  are
• 4:47
  really
• 4:47
  shifting
• 4:48
  the
• 4:48
  market
• 4:49
  for
• 4:50
  low
• 4:50
  cost
• 4:50
  fares.
• 4:51
  Right?
• 4:52
  Right.
• 4:52
  Yeah.
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  mean,
• 4:53
  it's
• 4:53
  really
• 4:53
  good
• 4:54
  for
• 4:54
  budget
• 4:55
  travelers
• 4:55
  and
• 4:55
  really
• 4:55
  everyone
• 4:57
  in
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  market.
• 4:57
  Right.
• 4:58
  You
• 4:58
  know,
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  way
• 4:59
  it
• 5:00
  works
• 5:00
  is,
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  know
• 5:00
  these
• 5:01
  low
• 5:01
  cost
• 5:01
  airlines,
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  ones
• 5:02
  you
• 5:02
  mentioned,
• 5:03
  they
• 5:03
  come
• 5:03
  in
• 5:03
  and,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  Delta's
• 5:05
  selling
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  flight
• 5:06
  from
• 5:06
  LA
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  Paris
• 5:07
  for
• 5:07
  $900
• 5:08
  round
• 5:08
  trip
• 5:09
  in
• 5:09
  economy.
• 5:09
  And
• 5:09
  what
• 5:10
  French
• 5:10
  bees
• 5:10
  come
• 5:10
  in
• 5:10
  is
• 5:11
  they're
• 5:11
  coming
• 5:11
  in,
• 5:12
  they're
• 5:12
  saying,
• 5:12
  well,
• 5:13
  it's
• 5:13
  actually
• 5:13
  $300
• 5:15
  or
• 5:15
  $200,
• 5:16
  but
• 5:16
  if
• 5:16
  you
• 5:16
  want
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  select
• 5:17
  A
• 5:17
  seat.
• 5:17
  If
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  want
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  do
• 5:18
  all
• 5:18
  these
• 5:18
  other
• 5:18
  things,
• 5:18
  it's
• 5:19
  going
• 5:19
  to,
• 5:19
  it's
• 5:19
  going
• 5:19
  to
• 5:19
  add
• 5:19
  up
• 5:19
  to
• 5:20
  maybe
• 5:20
  600.
• 5:20
  But
• 5:21
  what
• 5:21
  they've
• 5:21
  done
• 5:22
  is
• 5:22
  they
• 5:22
  forced
• 5:22
  all
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  other
• 5:23
  airlines
• 5:23
  to,
• 5:24
  to
• 5:24
  introduce
• 5:25
  other
• 5:25
  type
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  fare
• 5:26
  classes
• 5:27
  like
• 5:27
  basic
• 5:28
  economy,
• 5:29
  things
• 5:29
  like
• 5:29
  that,
• 5:29
  where
• 5:30
  now
• 5:30
  they're
• 5:30
  having
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  compete
• 5:31
  and,
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  know,
• 5:32
  strip
• 5:32
  fares
• 5:33
  out.
• 5:33
  So
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  can
• 5:33
  still.
• 5:34
  So
• 5:34
  now
• 5:34
  what
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:34
  done
• 5:35
  is
• 5:35
  it's
• 5:35
  just
• 5:35
  dropped
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  prices
• 5:36
  across
• 5:36
  the
• 5:37
  board
• 5:37
  a
• 5:38
  little
• 5:38
  bit,
• 5:38
  which
• 5:39
  is
• 5:39
  really
• 5:39
  good
• 5:39
  for
• 5:39
  consumers.
• 5:40
  And
• 5:40
  I
• 5:41
  think
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  will
• 5:41
  be
• 5:41
  really.
• 5:42
  We're
• 5:42
  going
• 5:42
  to
• 5:42
  see
• 5:42
  a
• 5:43
  lot
• 5:43
  more
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  that
• 5:44
  in
• 5:44
  2026
• 5:45
  particularly.
• 5:46
  Yeah.
• 5:47
  Gotta
• 5:47
  say,
• 5:47
  I
• 5:48
  was
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  little
• 5:48
  nervous
• 5:49
  before
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  flew
• 5:50
  Norse
• 5:50
  because
• 5:50
  the
• 5:51
  price
• 5:51
  was
• 5:51
  so
• 5:52
  damn
• 5:52
  low.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  thought,
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  know,
• 5:53
  will
• 5:54
  this
• 5:54
  be
• 5:54
  a
• 5:54
  terrible
• 5:55
  flight?
• 5:55
  And
• 5:55
  it
• 5:56
  was
• 5:56
  just
• 5:56
  fine.
• 5:57
  It
• 5:57
  was
• 5:57
  like
• 5:57
  any
• 5:58
  other
• 5:58
  flight.
• 5:58
  French
• 5:59
  B,
• 5:59
  I
• 6:00
  didn't
• 6:00
  like
• 6:00
  as
• 6:01
  much
• 6:01
  and
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  felt
• 6:02
  very
• 6:02
  sorry
• 6:03
  for
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  flight
• 6:04
  attendants
• 6:05
  because
• 6:05
  their
• 6:06
  uniforms
• 6:06
  are
• 6:07
  so
• 6:07
  damn
• 6:07
  ugly.
• 6:08
  But
• 6:08
  other
• 6:09
  than
• 6:09
  that,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:10
  know,
• 6:10
  these
• 6:11
  carriers
• 6:11
  are
• 6:11
  just
• 6:11
  as
• 6:12
  aw
• 6:13
  as
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  main
• 6:13
  carriers
• 6:14
  in
• 6:15
  terms
• 6:15
  of
• 6:15
  no
• 6:15
  leg
• 6:16
  room,
• 6:16
  in
• 6:17
  terms
• 6:17
  of,
• 6:17
  you
• 6:18
  know,
• 6:18
  slightly
• 6:18
  uncomfortable
• 6:19
  seats.
• 6:19
  You
• 6:20
  know,
• 6:20
  they're,
• 6:20
  they're,
• 6:20
  they're
• 6:21
  no
• 6:21
  better,
• 6:21
  but
• 6:21
  they're
• 6:22
  no
• 6:22
  worse.
• 6:22
  I
• 6:23
  thought.
• 6:24
  No,
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  agree.
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  mean,
• 6:24
  I've
• 6:25
  flown
• 6:26
  French
• 6:26
  B.
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  also
• 6:27
  one
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  ones
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  really
• 6:28
  loved
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  was
• 6:30
  just
• 6:30
  convenient
• 6:30
  for
• 6:30
  me
• 6:30
  was
• 6:30
  Norwegian
• 6:31
  when
• 6:32
  they
• 6:32
  were
• 6:32
  still
• 6:32
  doing
• 6:33
  international
• 6:34
  from
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  US
• 6:34
  but
• 6:34
  they're
• 6:35
  no
• 6:35
  longer
• 6:35
  doing
• 6:35
  that.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  was
• 6:37
  a
• 6:37
  really
• 6:37
  good
• 6:37
  one.
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  mean,
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  flew
• 6:38
  them
• 6:38
  numerous
• 6:38
  times.
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  used
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  live
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  Seattle
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  they
• 6:40
  had
• 6:40
  non
• 6:40
  stop,
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  think.
• 6:42
  Seattle?
• 6:43
  Yeah,
• 6:43
  Seattle
• 6:43
  to
• 6:44
  Europe.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:45
  it
• 6:45
  was,
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  think
• 6:46
  me
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  my
• 6:46
  wife,
• 6:47
  you
• 6:47
  know,
• 6:47
  we
• 6:47
  were
• 6:47
  even
• 6:48
  more
• 6:48
  budget
• 6:48
  at
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  point,
• 6:49
  you
• 6:49
  know,
• 6:49
  six
• 6:50
  years
• 6:50
  ago.
• 6:50
  And
• 6:50
  we
• 6:51
  were,
• 6:51
  it
• 6:51
  was
• 6:51
  like,
• 6:51
  oh,
• 6:52
  you
• 6:52
  just
• 6:52
  fly
• 6:52
  to
• 6:53
  fly
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  Paris
• 6:54
  for
• 6:54
  200,
• 6:55
  you
• 6:55
  know,
• 6:55
  and
• 6:56
  amazing.
• 6:57
  And
• 6:57
  it's,
• 6:57
  it's,
• 6:58
  it
• 6:58
  was
• 6:58
  perfect.
• 7:00
  It's
• 7:01
  about
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  destination,
• 7:02
  it's
• 7:02
  not
• 7:02
  about
• 7:02
  the
• 7:03
  flight.
• 7:03
  The
• 7:03
  more
• 7:03
  you
• 7:03
  can
• 7:04
  save
• 7:04
  on
• 7:04
  the
• 7:04
  flight,
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  better
• 7:05
  time
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  can
• 7:06
  have
• 7:06
  in
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  destination.
• 7:08
  Exactly.
• 7:08
  Yeah.
• 7:09
  And,
• 7:10
  and
• 7:10
  yeah,
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  mean
• 7:10
  it
• 7:10
  was,
• 7:11
  yeah,
• 7:12
  no,
• 7:12
  no
• 7:12
  concern.
• 7:13
  Just
• 7:13
  bring
• 7:13
  your
• 7:13
  own,
• 7:13
  bring
• 7:14
  your
• 7:14
  own
• 7:14
  food
• 7:14
  and
• 7:15
  get,
• 7:15
  get
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  sandwich.
• 7:16
  You're
• 7:16
  great.
• 7:16
  Yeah,
• 7:17
  yeah,
• 7:17
  absolutely.
• 7:18
  You
• 7:18
  also
• 7:19
  say,
• 7:19
  and
• 7:20
  I,
• 7:20
  you
• 7:21
  may
• 7:21
  have
• 7:21
  created
• 7:22
  a
• 7:22
  new
• 7:22
  term
• 7:23
  here,
• 7:23
  but
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  thought
• 7:24
  this
• 7:24
  advice
• 7:24
  was
• 7:25
  gold.
• 7:26
  Gateway
• 7:27
  flexibility
• 7:28
  is
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  ultimate
• 7:29
  advantage.
• 7:30
  So
• 7:31
  what
• 7:31
  do
• 7:31
  you
• 7:31
  mean
• 7:31
  by
• 7:31
  gateway
• 7:32
  flexibility?
• 7:34
  Right,
• 7:34
  right.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:35
  this
• 7:35
  is
• 7:35
  one
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  biggest
• 7:36
  things
• 7:36
  we
• 7:37
  talk
• 7:37
  about
• 7:37
  at
• 7:38
  Dollar
• 7:38
  Flight
• 7:38
  Club.
• 7:39
  You
• 7:39
  know,
• 7:39
  we,
• 7:41
  when
• 7:41
  you
• 7:41
  sign
• 7:41
  up,
• 7:41
  we
• 7:42
  don't,
• 7:42
  we
• 7:42
  don't
• 7:42
  really
• 7:42
  only
• 7:43
  want
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  to
• 7:43
  put
• 7:43
  one
• 7:43
  airport
• 7:44
  in
• 7:44
  where
• 7:45
  you
• 7:45
  Want
• 7:45
  deals
• 7:45
  from.
• 7:45
  We
• 7:46
  ask
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  for
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  few,
• 7:47
  you
• 7:48
  know,
• 7:48
  we
• 7:48
  ask
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  for
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  few
• 7:48
  airports,
• 7:49
  and
• 7:49
  that's
• 7:49
  because
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  this
• 7:50
  gateway
• 7:50
  flexibility.
• 7:51
  So,
• 7:51
  you
• 7:52
  know,
• 7:52
  there
• 7:52
  are
• 7:52
  these
• 7:52
  various
• 7:53
  airports
• 7:53
  that
• 7:53
  have
• 7:53
  really
• 7:54
  the
• 7:54
  best
• 7:54
  deals
• 7:54
  in
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  United
• 7:55
  States
• 7:56
  out
• 7:56
  of,
• 7:56
  so
• 7:57
  New
• 7:57
  York,
• 7:57
  Louisiana,
• 7:58
  Miami,
• 8:00
  Chicago.
• 8:01
  That's
• 8:01
  where
• 8:01
  you're
• 8:01
  going
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  find
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  absolute
• 8:02
  best
• 8:02
  deals.
• 8:03
  If
• 8:03
  you're
• 8:03
  thinking
• 8:03
  about
• 8:03
  going
• 8:04
  to
• 8:05
  Europe,
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  Asia,
• 8:07
  Africa,
• 8:07
  anywhere
• 8:08
  that's
• 8:08
  really
• 8:08
  far
• 8:08
  and
• 8:09
  expensive.
• 8:09
  But
• 8:09
  if
• 8:10
  you
• 8:10
  live
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  say,
• 8:10
  a
• 8:11
  city
• 8:11
  like
• 8:12
  Pittsburgh
• 8:13
  or
• 8:13
  something
• 8:14
  like
• 8:14
  that,
• 8:14
  where
• 8:15
  if
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  fly
• 8:15
  from
• 8:16
  Pittsburgh
• 8:16
  to
• 8:17
  Italy,
• 8:17
  it's
• 8:18
  probably
• 8:18
  going
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  cost
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  maybe
• 8:20
  50%
• 8:20
  more
• 8:20
  than
• 8:21
  if
• 8:21
  you
• 8:21
  lived
• 8:22
  in
• 8:22
  Pittsburgh
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  took
• 8:23
  a
• 8:24
  quick
• 8:24
  commute
• 8:24
  flight
• 8:24
  from
• 8:25
  Pittsburgh
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  New
• 8:25
  York,
• 8:26
  maybe
• 8:26
  stayed
• 8:27
  there
• 8:27
  for
• 8:27
  a
• 8:27
  night
• 8:27
  or
• 8:28
  just
• 8:28
  flew
• 8:28
  there
• 8:28
  in
• 8:28
  the
• 8:29
  morning,
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  then
• 8:29
  you
• 8:29
  booked
• 8:29
  a
• 8:29
  round
• 8:30
  trip
• 8:30
  flight
• 8:30
  from
• 8:30
  New
• 8:31
  York
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  your
• 8:31
  destination
• 8:32
  in
• 8:32
  Europe,
• 8:32
  you're
• 8:33
  going
• 8:33
  to
• 8:33
  probably
• 8:33
  save
• 8:34
  50%,
• 8:34
  40%
• 8:35
  there.
• 8:36
  You
• 8:36
  know,
• 8:36
  I've
• 8:36
  done
• 8:37
  this
• 8:37
  numerous
• 8:37
  times.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  live
• 8:38
  in
• 8:38
  Salt
• 8:39
  Lake
• 8:39
  City
• 8:39
  now.
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  have,
• 8:40
  my
• 8:40
  grandparents
• 8:41
  live
• 8:41
  in,
• 8:41
  right
• 8:41
  around
• 8:42
  Newark
• 8:42
  Airport.
• 8:43
  So
• 8:43
  it's
• 8:43
  very
• 8:43
  common
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  me
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  say,
• 8:44
  okay,
• 8:46
  I'm
• 8:46
  flying
• 8:46
  there,
• 8:46
  I'm
• 8:47
  going
• 8:47
  to
• 8:47
  stay
• 8:47
  there
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  night
• 8:47
  before
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  then
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  night
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  get
• 8:49
  back
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  then
• 8:50
  fly
• 8:50
  from
• 8:50
  there
• 8:51
  to
• 8:52
  Europe.
• 8:52
  Uh,
• 8:53
  and
• 8:53
  the
• 8:54
  strategy
• 8:54
  is
• 8:54
  really
• 8:54
  becoming
• 8:55
  a
• 8:55
  standard
• 8:56
  part
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  travel
• 8:57
  planning
• 8:57
  and
• 8:58
  particularly
• 8:59
  not
• 8:59
  only
• 8:59
  talking
• 9:00
  about
• 9:00
  cash
• 9:01
  fares.
• 9:01
  Right.
• 9:01
  Talking
• 9:02
  about
• 9:02
  mile,
• 9:03
  miles
• 9:03
  and
• 9:03
  points.
• 9:04
  Because
• 9:04
  what
• 9:04
  you
• 9:05
  can
• 9:05
  do
• 9:05
  is
• 9:05
  if,
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  know,
• 9:06
  there's
• 9:06
  probably
• 9:07
  not
• 9:07
  availability
• 9:07
  to
• 9:08
  book
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  mile,
• 9:08
  a
• 9:09
  miles
• 9:09
  or
• 9:09
  points
• 9:10
  flight
• 9:10
  from
• 9:10
  Salt
• 9:10
  Lake
• 9:11
  City
• 9:11
  to
• 9:12
  Paris
• 9:13
  at
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  rate
• 9:13
  that
• 9:14
  you
• 9:14
  can
• 9:14
  get
• 9:15
  from
• 9:15
  New
• 9:15
  York
• 9:15
  to
• 9:16
  Paris,
• 9:16
  it's
• 9:17
  probably
• 9:17
  not
• 9:17
  even
• 9:17
  comparable.
• 9:18
  So
• 9:18
  what
• 9:18
  you
• 9:19
  can,
• 9:19
  you
• 9:19
  know,
• 9:19
  it's
• 9:19
  probably
• 9:20
  60,000
• 9:21
  points
• 9:21
  round
• 9:21
  trip
• 9:22
  from
• 9:22
  New
• 9:22
  York
• 9:22
  versus
• 9:23
  150,000
• 9:24
  points
• 9:24
  from
• 9:24
  Salt
• 9:24
  Lake
• 9:25
  City.
• 9:25
  So
• 9:25
  you
• 9:25
  can
• 9:25
  buy
• 9:26
  a
• 9:26
  cheap
• 9:26
  cash
• 9:27
  fare
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  New
• 9:27
  York
• 9:27
  and
• 9:27
  then
• 9:28
  use
• 9:28
  points
• 9:28
  for
• 9:28
  that
• 9:28
  really
• 9:29
  expensive
• 9:29
  part.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  it's
• 9:30
  a
• 9:30
  really
• 9:30
  good
• 9:30
  way
• 9:31
  to
• 9:31
  save.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  it's
• 9:32
  just.
• 9:32
  Yeah,
• 9:33
  that's
• 9:33
  really
• 9:33
  what
• 9:33
  people
• 9:33
  are
• 9:34
  going
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  have
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  do.
• 9:35
  Yeah.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:36
  let's
• 9:36
  break
• 9:36
  this
• 9:36
  down.
• 9:37
  You
• 9:37
  have
• 9:37
  to
• 9:38
  make
• 9:38
  two
• 9:38
  bookings.
• 9:39
  You
• 9:39
  can't
• 9:40
  just
• 9:40
  say
• 9:41
  to
• 9:41
  your
• 9:41
  search
• 9:41
  engine,
• 9:42
  I'm
• 9:42
  going
• 9:43
  from
• 9:43
  Pittsburgh
• 9:44
  to
• 9:44
  Paris.
• 9:45
  You
• 9:45
  have
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  say,
• 9:46
  I'm
• 9:46
  going
• 9:46
  from
• 9:46
  New
• 9:47
  York
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  Paris.
• 9:48
  Show
• 9:48
  me
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  fares.
• 9:49
  And
• 9:49
  then
• 9:49
  when
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  find
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  really
• 9:50
  good
• 9:50
  one,
• 9:51
  then
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  find
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  cheapo
• 9:52
  fares
• 9:53
  from
• 9:53
  Pittsburgh
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  Paris.
• 9:55
  And
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  would
• 9:55
  also
• 9:56
  say
• 9:56
  this
• 9:56
  works
• 9:57
  in
• 9:57
  Europe
• 9:58
  sometimes.
• 9:59
  If
• 9:59
  you're
• 9:59
  going
• 9:59
  to
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  secondary
• 10:01
  city
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  Europe,
• 10:02
  if
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  can
• 10:02
  find
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  good
• 10:03
  flight
• 10:04
  from
• 10:04
  say,
• 10:04
  New
• 10:05
  York
• 10:05
  to
• 10:05
  Paris,
• 10:05
  and
• 10:06
  then
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  need
• 10:06
  to
• 10:07
  go
• 10:07
  to
• 10:09
  I'm
• 10:09
  trying
• 10:09
  to
• 10:09
  think
• 10:09
  of
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  secondary
• 10:10
  city
• 10:11
  in
• 10:11
  Paris,
• 10:12
  Berlin
• 10:13
  or
• 10:14
  you
• 10:14
  know,
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  place
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  doesn't
• 10:17
  have
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  many
• 10:17
  direct
• 10:18
  flights
• 10:18
  from
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  US
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  can
• 10:19
  get
• 10:20
  a
• 10:20
  real
• 10:20
  really
• 10:21
  good
• 10:21
  low
• 10:21
  cost
• 10:22
  carrier
• 10:23
  in
• 10:23
  Europe
• 10:24
  to
• 10:24
  take
• 10:24
  you
• 10:24
  that
• 10:25
  extra
• 10:25
  little
• 10:25
  hop.
• 10:26
  Right,
• 10:26
  Exactly.
• 10:27
  But
• 10:28
  there
• 10:28
  are
• 10:28
  some
• 10:28
  dangers
• 10:29
  with
• 10:29
  this,
• 10:30
  aren't
• 10:30
  there?
• 10:30
  I
• 10:30
  mean,
• 10:31
  if
• 10:31
  you
• 10:31
  miss
• 10:31
  your
• 10:32
  second
• 10:32
  flight,
• 10:33
  your
• 10:33
  first
• 10:33
  airline
• 10:34
  is
• 10:34
  going
• 10:35
  to
• 10:35
  wipe
• 10:35
  their
• 10:35
  hands
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  you.
• 10:36
  They're
• 10:36
  not
• 10:36
  going
• 10:36
  to
• 10:36
  do
• 10:36
  anything
• 10:37
  for
• 10:37
  you,
• 10:37
  right?
• 10:38
  No,
• 10:38
  no.
• 10:39
  So
• 10:39
  it's,
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  know,
• 10:40
  this
• 10:40
  is
• 10:40
  definitely,
• 10:41
  there's
• 10:41
  definitely
• 10:42
  some
• 10:42
  risk.
• 10:42
  So
• 10:42
  you
• 10:43
  know,
• 10:43
  if
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  are
• 10:43
  going
• 10:43
  to
• 10:44
  do
• 10:44
  this,
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  know,
• 10:44
  and
• 10:44
  you
• 10:45
  know,
• 10:45
  you're
• 10:45
  absolutely
• 10:45
  right.
• 10:45
  There's
• 10:46
  gateway
• 10:46
  flexibility
• 10:47
  on
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  front
• 10:47
  end
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  then
• 10:48
  also
• 10:48
  where
• 10:48
  you're
• 10:49
  going,
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  know,
• 10:49
  that's,
• 10:49
  you
• 10:50
  have
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  look
• 10:50
  at
• 10:50
  both.
• 10:51
  But
• 10:51
  yeah,
• 10:51
  I
• 10:51
  mean
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  issues
• 10:52
  come
• 10:53
  when
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  usually
• 10:54
  what
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  will
• 10:54
  do
• 10:54
  is
• 10:54
  I'll
• 10:55
  fly
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  night
• 10:55
  before
• 10:56
  into
• 10:56
  that,
• 10:57
  into
• 10:57
  that
• 10:57
  gateway.
• 10:58
  Right.
• 10:58
  And
• 10:58
  have
• 10:59
  one
• 10:59
  night
• 10:59
  somewhere
• 11:00
  so
• 11:00
  that
• 11:00
  I'm
• 11:00
  not,
• 11:01
  not
• 11:01
  having
• 11:01
  an
• 11:02
  issue
• 11:02
  or
• 11:02
  it's
• 11:02
  just,
• 11:02
  you
• 11:03
  know,
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  land
• 11:03
  really
• 11:04
  early
• 11:04
  in
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  morning
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  then
• 11:05
  the
• 11:06
  flight
• 11:06
  is
• 11:06
  at
• 11:06
  night.
• 11:06
  Which
• 11:06
  usually
• 11:07
  is
• 11:07
  how
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  Europe
• 11:08
  flights
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  Europe
• 11:08
  work.
• 11:09
  Right.
• 11:09
  They're
• 11:09
  usually
• 11:09
  at
• 11:09
  night.
• 11:10
  So
• 11:10
  it
• 11:11
  usually
• 11:11
  works
• 11:11
  out.
• 11:11
  But
• 11:12
  there's
• 11:12
  some
• 11:12
  risks
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  you
• 11:12
  just
• 11:13
  need
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  be
• 11:13
  okay
• 11:13
  with
• 11:13
  that
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  have
• 11:14
  maybe
• 11:14
  some
• 11:14
  backup
• 11:15
  plans.
• 11:15
  But
• 11:16
  usually
• 11:16
  if
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  can,
• 11:17
  if
• 11:17
  you
• 11:17
  can
• 11:17
  make
• 11:17
  it
• 11:17
  work
• 11:18
  or
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  long.
• 11:19
  Layover,
• 11:19
  you
• 11:19
  know,
• 11:20
  maybe
• 11:20
  four
• 11:20
  hours
• 11:21
  in
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  airport.
• 11:21
  Exactly,
• 11:22
  exactly.
• 11:23
  Which
• 11:23
  isn't
• 11:23
  too
• 11:23
  bad
• 11:24
  if
• 11:24
  you're
• 11:24
  looking
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  save
• 11:24
  money.
• 11:25
  This
• 11:25
  is
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  good
• 11:25
  way
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  get.
• 11:26
  Good
• 11:26
  thing
• 11:26
  to
• 11:26
  try.
• 11:27
  So
• 11:27
  yeah,
• 11:28
  either
• 11:28
  way
• 11:28
  now
• 11:28
  your,
• 11:29
  your.
• 11:29
  Next
• 11:29
  tip
• 11:30
  is
• 11:31
  pretty
• 11:31
  invis.
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  thought
• 11:33
  not,
• 11:33
  not,
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  mean
• 11:34
  invidious
• 11:35
  on
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  airlines
• 11:36
  part.
• 11:37
  You
• 11:37
  talk
• 11:37
  about
• 11:38
  how
• 11:38
  the,
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  fact
• 11:39
  is
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  base
• 11:39
  fares
• 11:40
  have
• 11:40
  held
• 11:41
  pretty
• 11:41
  steady
• 11:42
  for
• 11:43
  most
• 11:43
  airlines,
• 11:45
  but
• 11:45
  it's
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  ancillary
• 11:46
  fees
• 11:47
  like
• 11:47
  checked
• 11:48
  bags
• 11:48
  and
• 11:48
  seat
• 11:49
  selection
• 11:50
  that
• 11:50
  are
• 11:50
  going
• 11:50
  through
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  roof.
• 11:52
  And
• 11:52
  so
• 11:53
  with
• 11:54
  that
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  mind,
• 11:55
  what's
• 11:55
  the
• 11:56
  strategy?
• 11:56
  Yeah,
• 11:57
  so
• 11:58
  like
• 11:58
  we
• 11:58
  were
• 11:58
  talking
• 11:59
  about
• 11:59
  before
• 12:00
  is,
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:01
  these
• 12:01
  legacy
• 12:01
  airlines
• 12:02
  now
• 12:02
  are
• 12:02
  having,
• 12:03
  they've
• 12:04
  added
• 12:04
  new
• 12:04
  fare
• 12:04
  classes
• 12:05
  like
• 12:05
  basic
• 12:05
  economy,
• 12:07
  Delta
• 12:07
  has
• 12:07
  like
• 12:08
  limit,
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  know
• 12:08
  they
• 12:08
  call
• 12:09
  it
• 12:09
  limited
• 12:09
  classes,
• 12:10
  things
• 12:10
  like
• 12:11
  that.
• 12:11
  Because
• 12:11
  what
• 12:12
  they're
• 12:12
  doing
• 12:12
  is
• 12:12
  then
• 12:12
  they're
• 12:12
  just
• 12:13
  adding
• 12:13
  on
• 12:13
  these
• 12:13
  ancillaries
• 12:14
  like
• 12:14
  fees.
• 12:15
  So
• 12:15
  more
• 12:15
  than
• 12:15
  ever,
• 12:16
  bags,
• 12:17
  seat
• 12:17
  selection,
• 12:18
  boarding
• 12:18
  party
• 12:18
  are
• 12:19
  really
• 12:19
  now
• 12:19
  driving
• 12:19
  the
• 12:20
  real
• 12:20
  price.
• 12:20
  You
• 12:20
  know,
• 12:20
  the
• 12:21
  base
• 12:21
  fare.
• 12:21
  You
• 12:21
  can
• 12:21
  think
• 12:22
  of
• 12:22
  it
• 12:22
  as
• 12:22
  just
• 12:22
  an
• 12:23
  entry
• 12:23
  point.
• 12:23
  And
• 12:23
  if
• 12:23
  you
• 12:23
  don't
• 12:24
  really
• 12:24
  care
• 12:24
  about
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  rest,
• 12:25
  that
• 12:26
  is
• 12:26
  to
• 12:26
  your
• 12:27
  benefit.
• 12:27
  Right.
• 12:27
  If
• 12:27
  you
• 12:27
  don't
• 12:27
  care
• 12:28
  about
• 12:28
  your
• 12:28
  seat
• 12:28
  Right.
• 12:29
  So
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  think
• 12:30
  one
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  biggest
• 12:31
  ways
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  can
• 12:32
  offset
• 12:33
  or
• 12:34
  offset
• 12:34
  these
• 12:35
  fees
• 12:35
  is
• 12:36
  really
• 12:36
  just
• 12:36
  first
• 12:36
  off,
• 12:37
  comparing
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  flights
• 12:37
  by
• 12:38
  total
• 12:38
  cost,
• 12:38
  not
• 12:39
  base
• 12:39
  fare.
• 12:39
  So
• 12:40
  making
• 12:40
  sure
• 12:41
  when
• 12:41
  you're
• 12:41
  searching
• 12:41
  and
• 12:41
  you're
• 12:42
  looking
• 12:42
  is
• 12:43
  make
• 12:43
  sure
• 12:43
  it
• 12:44
  includes
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  full
• 12:44
  fare
• 12:45
  so
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  can
• 12:45
  actually
• 12:46
  understand
• 12:46
  that.
• 12:46
  Because
• 12:47
  most
• 12:47
  people
• 12:47
  you
• 12:47
  want
• 12:47
  to
• 12:47
  select
• 12:48
  your
• 12:48
  seat,
• 12:48
  if
• 12:48
  you're
• 12:48
  going
• 12:48
  with
• 12:49
  someone,
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  need
• 12:49
  a
• 12:50
  bag.
• 12:50
  Just
• 12:50
  make
• 12:50
  sure
• 12:51
  when
• 12:51
  you're,
• 12:51
  when
• 12:51
  you're
• 12:51
  comparing
• 12:52
  initially,
• 12:52
  you're
• 12:53
  looking
• 12:53
  at
• 12:53
  that.
• 12:54
  Number
• 12:54
  two
• 12:55
  is
• 12:55
  just
• 12:55
  travel
• 12:55
  light
• 12:56
  when
• 12:56
  possible.
• 12:56
  You
• 12:56
  know,
• 12:57
  if
• 12:57
  you
• 12:58
  can
• 12:58
  go,
• 12:59
  your
• 12:59
  traveling
• 13:00
  light
• 13:00
  is
• 13:00
  really
• 13:00
  good
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  numerous
• 13:01
  ways.
• 13:01
  One,
• 13:01
  if,
• 13:02
  if
• 13:02
  you're
• 13:02
  going
• 13:02
  on
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  flight
• 13:03
  where
• 13:04
  they're
• 13:04
  charging
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  lot
• 13:05
  for
• 13:05
  a
• 13:06
  checked
• 13:06
  bag,
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  don't
• 13:06
  have
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  do
• 13:07
  that.
• 13:07
  Also,
• 13:07
  if
• 13:07
  there's
• 13:08
  any
• 13:09
  delays,
• 13:09
  cancellations,
• 13:10
  and
• 13:10
  you
• 13:10
  don't
• 13:10
  have
• 13:10
  a
• 13:11
  check
• 13:11
  bag,
• 13:11
  that's
• 13:12
  really
• 13:12
  helpful.
• 13:12
  So
• 13:12
  that's
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  really
• 13:13
  good
• 13:13
  one
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  do.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:15
  then,
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  know,
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  can
• 13:16
  also
• 13:16
  use
• 13:17
  cards
• 13:17
  or
• 13:17
  perks
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  cover
• 13:18
  bags
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  seats.
• 13:19
  So
• 13:20
  there's
• 13:20
  some
• 13:20
  credit
• 13:20
  card,
• 13:21
  credit
• 13:22
  cards
• 13:22
  that
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  have,
• 13:24
  airline
• 13:24
  credits,
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  that's
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  good
• 13:25
  way
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  use
• 13:26
  those.
• 13:26
  Right.
• 13:27
  So
• 13:27
  there's
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  few
• 13:27
  ways
• 13:27
  you
• 13:28
  can
• 13:28
  offset
• 13:28
  them.
• 13:29
  But
• 13:29
  generally,
• 13:29
  you
• 13:30
  know,
• 13:30
  what
• 13:30
  we're
• 13:30
  seeing
• 13:30
  is
• 13:31
  this
• 13:31
  is
• 13:31
  a
• 13:31
  really,
• 13:31
  this
• 13:32
  is
• 13:32
  how
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  airlines
• 13:33
  are
• 13:33
  making,
• 13:34
  making
• 13:34
  money
• 13:35
  and
• 13:35
  going
• 13:35
  to
• 13:36
  do
• 13:36
  that
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  2026.
• 13:37
  It's
• 13:37
  one
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  the
• 13:38
  big
• 13:38
  ways.
• 13:38
  It's
• 13:39
  been
• 13:39
  my
• 13:39
  kind
• 13:40
  of
• 13:41
  habit
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  avoid
• 13:43
  basic
• 13:44
  economy
• 13:45
  just
• 13:45
  because
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  do
• 13:46
  want
• 13:46
  to
• 13:46
  be
• 13:46
  able
• 13:46
  to
• 13:47
  check
• 13:47
  to
• 13:47
  pick
• 13:48
  my
• 13:48
  seat.
• 13:49
  But
• 13:49
  recently,
• 13:49
  the
• 13:50
  prices,
• 13:50
  I
• 13:51
  was
• 13:51
  going
• 13:51
  to
• 13:51
  Europe,
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  prices
• 13:52
  were
• 13:53
  so
• 13:53
  high
• 13:53
  compared
• 13:54
  from
• 13:54
  basic
• 13:55
  economy
• 13:55
  to
• 13:56
  economy.
• 13:56
  The
• 13:56
  jump
• 13:57
  was
• 13:57
  so
• 13:57
  great
• 13:58
  that
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  thought,
• 13:58
  well,
• 13:59
  I'm
• 13:59
  going
• 13:59
  to
• 13:59
  look
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  see
• 14:00
  how
• 14:00
  much
• 14:00
  it
• 14:01
  costs
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  pick
• 14:02
  my
• 14:02
  seat.
• 14:02
  Because
• 14:02
  I
• 14:03
  knew
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  was
• 14:03
  carry.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  always
• 14:04
  carry
• 14:04
  a
• 14:04
  tiny
• 14:05
  bag.
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  always
• 14:05
  carry
• 14:06
  a
• 14:06
  carry
• 14:06
  on.
• 14:07
  And
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  price
• 14:08
  was
• 14:08
  so
• 14:08
  much
• 14:09
  less
• 14:09
  to
• 14:09
  pick
• 14:09
  my
• 14:10
  seat
• 14:10
  with
• 14:10
  basic
• 14:11
  economy
• 14:11
  than
• 14:12
  it
• 14:12
  would
• 14:12
  have
• 14:12
  been
• 14:12
  to
• 14:13
  get
• 14:13
  an
• 14:13
  economy
• 14:14
  ticket.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  just
• 14:15
  went
• 14:15
  with
• 14:15
  that.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:16
  sure,
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  know,
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  boarded
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  plane
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  absolute
• 14:19
  last
• 14:19
  person
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  terminal,
• 14:21
  but
• 14:21
  who
• 14:22
  cares?
• 14:23
  Who
• 14:23
  cares?
• 14:24
  It
• 14:24
  was
• 14:24
  a
• 14:24
  great
• 14:24
  savings.
• 14:26
  You
• 14:26
  also
• 14:26
  talk
• 14:27
  about
• 14:27
  something
• 14:28
  that
• 14:28
  I
• 14:28
  think
• 14:29
  will
• 14:29
  shock
• 14:30
  travelers
• 14:30
  because
• 14:31
  this
• 14:31
  has
• 14:32
  always
• 14:32
  been
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  basic
• 14:34
  advice.
• 14:34
  Anytime
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  see
• 14:35
  a
• 14:36
  travel
• 14:36
  expert
• 14:36
  on
• 14:37
  tv,
• 14:37
  they
• 14:37
  say,
• 14:38
  go
• 14:38
  in
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  off
• 14:39
  season,
• 14:39
  go
• 14:39
  in
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  off
• 14:40
  season.
• 14:40
  That's
• 14:41
  how
• 14:41
  you'll
• 14:41
  save.
• 14:42
  You
• 14:43
  say
• 14:43
  in
• 14:43
  this
• 14:43
  piece,
• 14:44
  there's
• 14:45
  no
• 14:45
  longer
• 14:46
  an
• 14:46
  off
• 14:46
  season.
• 14:47
  Why
• 14:48
  is
• 14:48
  that?
• 14:49
  Yeah,
• 14:49
  it's,
• 14:49
  it's
• 14:50
  one
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  newer
• 14:50
  things
• 14:50
  we're
• 14:51
  seeing
• 14:51
  and
• 14:51
  it's
• 14:51
  definitely
• 14:52
  unfortunate.
• 14:52
  You
• 14:52
  know,
• 14:53
  we,
• 14:53
  we,
• 14:53
  my
• 14:54
  wife
• 14:54
  and
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  always,
• 14:55
  you
• 14:55
  know,
• 14:55
  our.
• 14:56
  Our
• 14:56
  thing
• 14:56
  is,
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  know,
• 14:57
  going
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  Europe
• 14:57
  in
• 14:57
  September
• 14:58
  or
• 14:58
  something.
• 14:58
  You
• 14:59
  know,
• 14:59
  after
• 15:00
  all,
• 15:00
  you
• 15:01
  know,
• 15:01
  all
• 15:01
  the.
• 15:01
  Everyone's
• 15:02
  back
• 15:02
  in
• 15:02
  school
• 15:02
  and
• 15:03
  everything,
• 15:03
  and
• 15:03
  we're
• 15:03
  just,
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  know,
• 15:04
  we're
• 15:04
  still.
• 15:05
  We
• 15:05
  still
• 15:05
  paid,
• 15:06
  you
• 15:06
  know,
• 15:06
  recently.
• 15:07
  We're
• 15:07
  still
• 15:07
  paying,
• 15:08
  you
• 15:08
  know,
• 15:08
  what
• 15:08
  you
• 15:09
  would
• 15:09
  expect
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  see
• 15:10
  just
• 15:11
  in
• 15:11
  summer.
• 15:11
  It's
• 15:11
  just.
• 15:12
  It
• 15:12
  doesn't
• 15:12
  drop
• 15:12
  off
• 15:13
  a
• 15:13
  cliff,
• 15:13
  which
• 15:13
  is
• 15:14
  usually
• 15:14
  what
• 15:14
  happens.
• 15:15
  So,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  know,
• 15:16
  remote
• 15:16
  work
• 15:17
  has
• 15:17
  really
• 15:17
  flattened
• 15:18
  demand.
• 15:19
  You
• 15:19
  know,
• 15:19
  prices
• 15:20
  just
• 15:20
  no
• 15:20
  longer
• 15:20
  drop
• 15:21
  because
• 15:21
  it's
• 15:21
  September
• 15:22
  or
• 15:22
  it's
• 15:23
  February.
• 15:24
  But,
• 15:24
  you
• 15:25
  know,
• 15:25
  there's
• 15:25
  still
• 15:25
  value
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  be
• 15:26
  found.
• 15:26
  You
• 15:26
  know,
• 15:27
  it's
• 15:27
  just
• 15:27
  tied.
• 15:27
  You
• 15:27
  have
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  look
• 15:28
  at
• 15:28
  specific
• 15:28
  routes,
• 15:30
  shorter
• 15:30
  windows
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  just
• 15:31
  not
• 15:31
  really
• 15:32
  calendar
• 15:32
  months.
• 15:32
  It
• 15:33
  just
• 15:33
  doesn't
• 15:33
  work
• 15:33
  like
• 15:33
  that
• 15:34
  anymore,
• 15:34
  unfortunately,
• 15:35
  which.
• 15:36
  That's
• 15:36
  been
• 15:36
  a
• 15:36
  tip
• 15:37
  forever.
• 15:37
  But
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  2026,
• 15:39
  moving
• 15:39
  forward,
• 15:39
  it's
• 15:40
  just
• 15:40
  not.
• 15:40
  It's
• 15:40
  not
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  same.
• 15:43
  And,
• 15:43
  you
• 15:43
  know,
• 15:43
  I
• 15:44
  think
• 15:44
  part
• 15:44
  of
• 15:44
  it,
• 15:44
  at
• 15:45
  least
• 15:45
  in
• 15:45
  terms
• 15:45
  of
• 15:45
  travel
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  Europe,
• 15:46
  may
• 15:47
  have
• 15:47
  to
• 15:47
  do
• 15:47
  with
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  fact
• 15:48
  that
• 15:49
  you're
• 15:49
  nuts
• 15:50
  to
• 15:50
  go
• 15:51
  to
• 15:51
  Mediterranean
• 15:52
  Europe
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  summer
• 15:53
  now.
• 15:54
  They
• 15:54
  have
• 15:54
  had
• 15:55
  such
• 15:56
  insane
• 15:56
  heat
• 15:57
  waves
• 15:57
  every
• 15:58
  summer
• 15:58
  that
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  think
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  hordes
• 16:00
  that
• 16:00
  used
• 16:00
  to
• 16:00
  go
• 16:00
  there
• 16:01
  in
• 16:01
  summ
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  then
• 16:02
  not
• 16:02
  travel
• 16:02
  in
• 16:02
  the
• 16:03
  fall,
• 16:03
  it's.
• 16:03
  It's
• 16:04
  flipped.
• 16:04
  You
• 16:05
  just
• 16:05
  have
• 16:05
  more
• 16:05
  people
• 16:06
  who
• 16:06
  know
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  you're
• 16:07
  not
• 16:07
  going
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  enjoy
• 16:08
  your
• 16:08
  vacation
• 16:08
  in
• 16:09
  Europe
• 16:09
  if
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  go
• 16:10
  during
• 16:10
  a
• 16:10
  heat
• 16:10
  wave.
• 16:11
  So
• 16:11
  people
• 16:11
  are.
• 16:12
  Maybe
• 16:13
  summer
• 16:13
  will
• 16:13
  soon
• 16:14
  be
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  off
• 16:14
  season
• 16:15
  to
• 16:15
  Europe.
• 16:15
  I
• 16:16
  don't
• 16:16
  know.
• 16:17
  Right.
• 16:17
  Yeah.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  mean,
• 16:17
  it's
• 16:18
  getting.
• 16:18
  You
• 16:18
  know,
• 16:18
  I
• 16:19
  was
• 16:19
  there
• 16:19
  this
• 16:19
  last
• 16:19
  year,
• 16:19
  and
• 16:20
  it
• 16:20
  was.
• 16:20
  Honestly,
• 16:20
  on
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  map,
• 16:21
  it
• 16:21
  was
• 16:21
  hard
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  be
• 16:22
  there,
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  know,
• 16:23
  just
• 16:23
  in
• 16:24
  the.
• 16:24
  When
• 16:24
  it
• 16:24
  was.
• 16:25
  When
• 16:25
  there
• 16:25
  were
• 16:25
  the
• 16:25
  heat
• 16:25
  waves.
• 16:26
  And
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  was
• 16:26
  tough.
• 16:27
  You
• 16:27
  know,
• 16:27
  we
• 16:27
  have.
• 16:27
  We
• 16:27
  have
• 16:27
  young
• 16:28
  kids,
• 16:28
  and
• 16:28
  they
• 16:28
  were.
• 16:29
  They
• 16:29
  were
• 16:29
  definitely
• 16:30
  just
• 16:30
  overheating,
• 16:31
  you
• 16:31
  know,
• 16:31
  and
• 16:31
  it
• 16:32
  was.
• 16:32
  It
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  a
• 16:32
  little
• 16:32
  bit
• 16:32
  of
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  struggle
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  keep
• 16:33
  them
• 16:33
  cool,
• 16:34
  too.
• 16:34
  So
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  could
• 16:34
  definitely
• 16:35
  see
• 16:35
  that.
• 16:35
  I
• 16:35
  mean,
• 16:35
  again,
• 16:36
  you
• 16:36
  know,
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  way
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  combat
• 16:38
  this,
• 16:38
  this
• 16:39
  off
• 16:39
  season
• 16:40
  that
• 16:40
  is
• 16:40
  disappearing
• 16:41
  is
• 16:41
  really.
• 16:42
  It
• 16:42
  comes
• 16:42
  back
• 16:42
  to
• 16:43
  that
• 16:43
  gateway,
• 16:43
  Gateway
• 16:44
  shopping.
• 16:45
  You
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:45
  it's
• 16:45
  kind
• 16:45
  of
• 16:46
  if,
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  know,
• 16:46
  say
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  do
• 16:47
  want
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  go
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  Mediterranean,
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  know,
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  you're
• 16:49
  flying
• 16:49
  out
• 16:49
  of
• 16:51
  Chicago
• 16:51
  or
• 16:52
  something,
• 16:52
  maybe
• 16:52
  look
• 16:52
  from
• 16:53
  Chicago
• 16:54
  to
• 16:55
  anywhere
• 16:55
  else
• 16:56
  in
• 16:56
  Europe,
• 16:57
  that's
• 16:57
  maybe
• 16:57
  just.
• 16:58
  It
• 16:58
  could
• 16:58
  be
• 16:59
  40%
• 16:59
  less
• 16:59
  than
• 17:00
  flying
• 17:00
  direct
• 17:00
  into
• 17:00
  Athens
• 17:01
  and
• 17:01
  then
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  can
• 17:02
  just
• 17:02
  take
• 17:02
  a
• 17:03
  Ryanair
• 17:03
  flight
• 17:03
  or
• 17:04
  something
• 17:04
  for
• 17:04
  40
• 17:04
  bucks
• 17:05
  from
• 17:05
  there
• 17:06
  to
• 17:07
  Mykonos,
• 17:07
  and
• 17:08
  that's
• 17:08
  a
• 17:08
  good
• 17:08
  way
• 17:08
  that.
• 17:09
  So
• 17:09
  it
• 17:09
  just
• 17:09
  comes
• 17:09
  back
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  really
• 17:10
  being
• 17:11
  creative
• 17:11
  and
• 17:12
  being
• 17:12
  really
• 17:12
  flexible
• 17:13
  with
• 17:13
  where
• 17:13
  you're
• 17:13
  flying
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  and
• 17:14
  out
• 17:14
  of
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  that's
• 17:15
  those
• 17:15
  travelers
• 17:15
  are
• 17:15
  going
• 17:16
  to
• 17:16
  win,
• 17:16
  you
• 17:16
  know,
• 17:16
  next
• 17:17
  year
• 17:17
  because
• 17:17
  all
• 17:18
  these
• 17:18
  things
• 17:18
  are
• 17:18
  really
• 17:19
  changing
• 17:19
  and
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  is
• 17:19
  probably
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  biggest
• 17:20
  one.
• 17:20
  You
• 17:20
  know,
• 17:20
  I
• 17:21
  probably
• 17:21
  should
• 17:21
  have
• 17:21
  put
• 17:21
  this
• 17:21
  as
• 17:21
  number
• 17:22
  one
• 17:22
  because
• 17:22
  this
• 17:23
  is
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  one
• 17:23
  that
• 17:23
  we
• 17:24
  always
• 17:24
  think
• 17:24
  is
• 17:24
  the
• 17:25
  way
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  go.
• 17:25
  And
• 17:25
  it's
• 17:25
  not
• 17:25
  so
• 17:26
  much
• 17:26
  anymore,
• 17:26
  unfortunately.
• 17:27
  Yeah,
• 17:28
  it
• 17:28
  was
• 17:28
  a
• 17:28
  shocker.
• 17:29
  You
• 17:29
  also
• 17:29
  say
• 17:30
  that
• 17:30
  peak
• 17:31
  prices
• 17:31
  are
• 17:31
  stickier,
• 17:32
  but
• 17:33
  mid
• 17:33
  week
• 17:34
  still
• 17:35
  wins.
• 17:35
  And
• 17:35
  this
• 17:35
  is
• 17:36
  for
• 17:36
  domestic
• 17:36
  airfares.
• 17:37
  What
• 17:37
  does
• 17:38
  that
• 17:38
  mean?
• 17:38
  Yeah,
• 17:39
  so
• 17:40
  you
• 17:40
  know,
• 17:41
  peak
• 17:41
  pricing
• 17:42
  is
• 17:42
  just,
• 17:42
  it's
• 17:43
  still
• 17:43
  there,
• 17:43
  but
• 17:44
  in
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  mid,
• 17:44
  mid
• 17:45
  week
• 17:45
  is
• 17:45
  still
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  place
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  you
• 17:46
  can
• 17:46
  win
• 17:46
  and
• 17:47
  save
• 17:47
  money.
• 17:48
  And
• 17:48
  that's
• 17:48
  really
• 17:49
  because,
• 17:49
  you
• 17:50
  know,
• 17:50
  airlines,
• 17:51
  they
• 17:51
  make
• 17:51
  a
• 17:51
  lot
• 17:52
  of
• 17:52
  money
• 17:52
  from
• 17:52
  seat
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  ancillaries
• 17:54
  like
• 17:54
  we
• 17:54
  mentioned.
• 17:54
  But
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  big
• 17:55
  one
• 17:55
  is
• 17:55
  business
• 17:56
  travel
• 17:57
  that's
• 17:57
  particularly
• 17:58
  growing.
• 17:58
  Again
• 17:58
  you
• 17:59
  it
• 17:59
  slowed
• 17:59
  down
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  Covid
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  it's
• 18:01
  coming
• 18:01
  back.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  know,
• 18:02
  those
• 18:03
  midweek
• 18:03
  departures
• 18:04
  is
• 18:04
  just,
• 18:05
  they're
• 18:05
  cheaper
• 18:06
  because
• 18:06
  one
• 18:07
  business
• 18:07
  travel
• 18:08
  is
• 18:08
  not
• 18:09
  really
• 18:09
  happening
• 18:10
  in
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  middle
• 18:10
  of
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  week.
• 18:11
  It's
• 18:11
  kind
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  on
• 18:12
  the
• 18:12
  tail
• 18:13
  end.
• 18:13
  And
• 18:13
  then
• 18:13
  also
• 18:14
  people
• 18:15
  don't
• 18:15
  travel
• 18:16
  for
• 18:16
  weekends
• 18:17
  or
• 18:17
  long
• 18:17
  weekends
• 18:18
  on,
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  know,
• 18:18
  Tuesday,
• 18:19
  Wednesday,
• 18:19
  Thursday.
• 18:19
  It's
• 18:20
  just
• 18:20
  not,
• 18:20
  not
• 18:20
  when
• 18:21
  they're
• 18:21
  going,
• 18:21
  they're
• 18:21
  going
• 18:21
  Thursday,
• 18:22
  Friday,
• 18:23
  come
• 18:23
  back
• 18:23
  Sunday,
• 18:23
  Monday.
• 18:24
  So
• 18:24
  that's
• 18:24
  where
• 18:24
  you're
• 18:24
  going
• 18:24
  to
• 18:25
  see
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  highest
• 18:25
  prices.
• 18:26
  And
• 18:26
  what
• 18:26
  we're
• 18:26
  seeing
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  data
• 18:27
  is
• 18:27
  if
• 18:27
  you
• 18:28
  look
• 18:28
  midweek,
• 18:29
  you're
• 18:30
  going
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  see
• 18:30
  cheaper
• 18:31
  prices
• 18:31
  just
• 18:31
  because
• 18:32
  airlines
• 18:32
  are
• 18:32
  dropping
• 18:32
  it
• 18:33
  to
• 18:34
  fill
• 18:34
  seats
• 18:34
  when
• 18:35
  it's
• 18:35
  just
• 18:35
  generally
• 18:36
  empty.
• 18:36
  So
• 18:37
  that's
• 18:37
  why
• 18:37
  we're
• 18:37
  seeing
• 18:38
  that.
• 18:38
  And
• 18:38
  you
• 18:39
  also
• 18:39
  go
• 18:39
  into
• 18:39
  where
• 18:39
  the
• 18:40
  steepest
• 18:40
  discounts
• 18:41
  are,
• 18:41
  which
• 18:41
  are
• 18:41
  in
• 18:42
  both
• 18:43
  secondary
• 18:44
  airports.
• 18:44
  And
• 18:45
  because
• 18:46
  long
• 18:46
  haul
• 18:46
  trips
• 18:47
  are
• 18:47
  so
• 18:47
  much
• 18:48
  more
• 18:48
  volatile.
• 18:49
  I
• 18:49
  mean
• 18:49
  the
• 18:50
  swings
• 18:51
  in
• 18:51
  prices,
• 18:51
  I
• 18:52
  didn't
• 18:52
  know
• 18:52
  this
• 18:53
  that
• 18:53
  they
• 18:53
  were
• 18:53
  so
• 18:54
  much
• 18:54
  more
• 18:54
  volatile
• 18:55
  volatile
• 18:55
  than
• 18:55
  say
• 18:56
  short
• 18:56
  domestic
• 18:57
  hops.
• 18:58
  Going
• 18:58
  from,
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  don't
• 18:59
  know,
• 18:59
  New
• 19:00
  York
• 19:00
  to
• 19:00
  Seoul,
• 19:01
  South
• 19:02
  Korea,
• 19:03
  you'll
• 19:04
  see
• 19:04
  greater
• 19:04
  swings
• 19:05
  in
• 19:06
  that.
• 19:06
  Talk
• 19:07
  about
• 19:07
  some
• 19:07
  of
• 19:07
  the
• 19:08
  air,
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  secondary
• 19:09
  airports
• 19:09
  that
• 19:10
  have
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  best
• 19:10
  prices
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  maybe
• 19:12
  if
• 19:12
  people
• 19:12
  can
• 19:12
  just
• 19:13
  drive
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  little
• 19:13
  longer,
• 19:14
  it's
• 19:14
  smart
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  go
• 19:15
  to
• 19:15
  those.
• 19:16
  Yeah,
• 19:16
  no,
• 19:17
  definitely.
• 19:17
  You
• 19:18
  know,
• 19:18
  it
• 19:18
  just,
• 19:18
  it's
• 19:18
  all
• 19:18
  about
• 19:19
  being
• 19:19
  flexible
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  just
• 19:20
  looking
• 19:20
  at
• 19:20
  different
• 19:21
  airports,
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  know,
• 19:21
  not
• 19:22
  feeling
• 19:22
  stuck
• 19:22
  to
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  one
• 19:23
  that's
• 19:24
  right
• 19:24
  around
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  corner.
• 19:25
  Obviously
• 19:25
  some
• 19:26
  people
• 19:26
  need
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  be,
• 19:26
  some
• 19:27
  people
• 19:27
  are
• 19:27
  less
• 19:27
  flexible,
• 19:28
  but
• 19:28
  if
• 19:28
  you
• 19:28
  can
• 19:29
  be,
• 19:29
  it
• 19:29
  really
• 19:29
  pays.
• 19:30
  And
• 19:30
  I
• 19:30
  think
• 19:31
  these
• 19:31
  secondary
• 19:32
  airports,
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  ones
• 19:35
  that
• 19:35
  are
• 19:35
  near
• 19:35
  big
• 19:35
  metros
• 19:36
  where
• 19:37
  low
• 19:37
  cost
• 19:37
  carriers
• 19:38
  compete
• 19:39
  is
• 19:39
  where
• 19:39
  you're
• 19:40
  going
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  See
• 19:40
  lower
• 19:41
  prices,
• 19:42
  less
• 19:42
  volatility.
• 19:43
  So
• 19:43
  you
• 19:44
  can
• 19:44
  think
• 19:44
  of
• 19:44
  places
• 19:46
  like
• 19:46
  in,
• 19:48
  maybe
• 19:48
  in
• 19:48
  Chicago,
• 19:49
  you
• 19:49
  know,
• 19:49
  you
• 19:49
  have
• 19:51
  Ord
• 19:51
  and
• 19:52
  then
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  have
• 19:53
  mdw,
• 19:54
  Right.
• 19:54
  Which
• 19:55
  is,
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  know,
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  kind
• 19:56
  of.
• 19:56
  Think
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  o'
• 19:57
  Hare
• 19:57
  versus
• 19:58
  Midway.
• 19:58
  Midway,
• 19:59
  o'
• 19:59
  Hara
• 19:59
  versus
• 19:59
  Midway,
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  should
• 20:00
  know
• 20:00
  those
• 20:00
  names
• 20:01
  like
• 20:01
  this.
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  kind
• 20:01
  of
• 20:02
  had
• 20:02
  a,
• 20:03
  that's
• 20:03
  okay.
• 20:04
  But
• 20:04
  yeah,
• 20:04
  so
• 20:04
  o',
• 20:04
  Hare,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  can
• 20:05
  see
• 20:05
  that
• 20:05
  they're
• 20:05
  going
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  have
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  lot
• 20:06
  more
• 20:06
  volatility
• 20:07
  because
• 20:07
  they
• 20:07
  have,
• 20:08
  they're
• 20:08
  more,
• 20:08
  they're
• 20:08
  going
• 20:09
  international.
• 20:09
  They
• 20:10
  have
• 20:10
  all
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  big
• 20:10
  carriers
• 20:11
  and
• 20:12
  those
• 20:12
  are
• 20:12
  going
• 20:12
  to
• 20:12
  have
• 20:12
  big
• 20:12
  swings.
• 20:13
  But
• 20:13
  if
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  look
• 20:13
  down
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  Midway,
• 20:15
  you
• 20:15
  can
• 20:15
  see
• 20:15
  that's
• 20:16
  where
• 20:16
  Southwest
• 20:16
  operates
• 20:17
  out
• 20:17
  of
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  other
• 20:19
  discount
• 20:19
  airlines.
• 20:20
  And
• 20:20
  that's
• 20:20
  where.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:21
  that's
• 20:21
  right,
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  know,
• 20:22
  smack
• 20:22
  in
• 20:23
  a
• 20:23
  big
• 20:23
  metro,
• 20:23
  but
• 20:24
  it's
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  secondary
• 20:24
  airport
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  that's
• 20:25
  where
• 20:26
  these
• 20:26
  low
• 20:27
  cost
• 20:27
  carriers
• 20:27
  are.
• 20:28
  And
• 20:28
  it's
• 20:28
  just
• 20:28
  going
• 20:28
  to
• 20:28
  be
• 20:29
  a
• 20:29
  very
• 20:29
  different
• 20:29
  pricing
• 20:30
  environment
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  it's
• 20:31
  going
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  be
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  your
• 20:32
  benefit
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  really,
• 20:33
  you
• 20:33
  know,
• 20:34
  look
• 20:34
  there
• 20:34
  as
• 20:34
  well.
• 20:35
  And
• 20:35
  there's
• 20:35
  numerous
• 20:36
  cities
• 20:36
  where
• 20:36
  this
• 20:36
  is
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  case.
• 20:37
  You
• 20:37
  know,
• 20:39
  most
• 20:39
  big
• 20:39
  metros
• 20:40
  have
• 20:40
  numerous
• 20:40
  airports.
• 20:41
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:42
  you
• 20:43
  also
• 20:43
  say
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  same
• 20:44
  for
• 20:44
  Oakland
• 20:44
  Airport
• 20:45
  versus
• 20:46
  going
• 20:46
  out
• 20:46
  of
• 20:46
  San
• 20:46
  Francisco
• 20:47
  International.
• 20:48
  Yeah,
• 20:48
  of
• 20:49
  course.
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  mean,
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  know,
• 20:50
  probably
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  even
• 20:53
  in
• 20:53
  Cal,
• 20:53
  you
• 20:54
  know,
• 20:54
  in
• 20:54
  California
• 20:54
  there's
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  lot
• 20:55
  of,
• 20:55
  lot
• 20:55
  of
• 20:56
  those
• 20:56
  types
• 20:56
  of
• 20:57
  opportunities,
• 20:58
  particularly
• 20:58
  if
• 20:58
  you
• 20:59
  live
• 20:59
  in
• 20:59
  Southern
• 20:59
  California.
• 21:00
  So,
• 21:00
  you
• 21:01
  know,
• 21:01
  I
• 21:01
  grew
• 21:02
  up
• 21:02
  in
• 21:02
  San
• 21:02
  Diego
• 21:03
  and
• 21:03
  you
• 21:03
  know,
• 21:04
  we
• 21:04
  often
• 21:04
  would,
• 21:05
  you
• 21:05
  know,
• 21:05
  if
• 21:05
  we're
• 21:06
  going
• 21:06
  international,
• 21:06
  you
• 21:07
  know,
• 21:07
  we
• 21:07
  would,
• 21:07
  we
• 21:07
  would
• 21:08
  look
• 21:08
  at
• 21:08
  flying
• 21:08
  out
• 21:08
  of
• 21:08
  lax.
• 21:09
  You
• 21:09
  know,
• 21:09
  it's
• 21:10
  an
• 21:10
  hour
• 21:10
  and
• 21:10
  a
• 21:10
  half,
• 21:10
  two
• 21:10
  hour
• 21:10
  drive.
• 21:11
  But
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  would
• 21:11
  be
• 21:11
  something
• 21:12
  we,
• 21:12
  we
• 21:12
  would
• 21:12
  look
• 21:12
  at,
• 21:13
  you
• 21:13
  know,
• 21:13
  and
• 21:13
  there's
• 21:13
  three,
• 21:14
  four
• 21:14
  airports
• 21:15
  closest
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  to
• 21:17
  la.
• 21:17
  Right.
• 21:18
  You
• 21:18
  have
• 21:18
  lax,
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  have
• 21:20
  Long
• 21:20
  beach,
• 21:20
  there's
• 21:21
  Santa
• 21:21
  Ana,
• 21:22
  there's
• 21:22
  two
• 21:22
  others
• 21:23
  in
• 21:23
  la.
• 21:23
  John
• 21:24
  Wayne,
• 21:24
  I
• 21:25
  think
• 21:25
  is
• 21:25
  one
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  them.
• 21:25
  Yeah,
• 21:26
  yeah,
• 21:26
  that's
• 21:26
  Santa
• 21:26
  Ana.
• 21:27
  Yeah,
• 21:27
  John
• 21:27
  Wayne,
• 21:27
  that's
• 21:28
  in
• 21:28
  Santa
• 21:28
  Ana.
• 21:29
  Exactly.
• 21:29
  So
• 21:29
  just
• 21:30
  looking
• 21:30
  at
• 21:30
  those
• 21:31
  secondary
• 21:31
  ones,
• 21:31
  not,
• 21:32
  not
• 21:32
  only
• 21:32
  lax,
• 21:33
  you
• 21:33
  just
• 21:34
  have.
• 21:34
  So
• 21:35
  people
• 21:35
  don't
• 21:35
  realize
• 21:36
  how
• 21:36
  much
• 21:36
  you
• 21:36
  can
• 21:36
  save
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  by
• 21:37
  just,
• 21:38
  by
• 21:38
  just
• 21:38
  switching
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  airport
• 21:39
  driving
• 21:39
  a
• 21:39
  little
• 21:39
  more.
• 21:40
  Right.
• 21:40
  This
• 21:41
  isn't
• 21:41
  in
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  piece,
• 21:42
  but
• 21:42
  I've
• 21:42
  been
• 21:43
  thinking
• 21:43
  about
• 21:43
  it
• 21:43
  so
• 21:44
  I'm
• 21:44
  just
• 21:44
  going
• 21:44
  to
• 21:44
  hit
• 21:45
  you
• 21:45
  with
• 21:45
  it.
• 21:46
  Recently
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  Trump
• 21:47
  administration,
• 21:48
  the
• 21:49
  Border
• 21:49
  Patrol
• 21:50
  agency
• 21:51
  has
• 21:51
  put
• 21:51
  out
• 21:53
  a
• 21:54
  plan.
• 21:55
  We're
• 21:55
  in
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  middle
• 21:56
  of
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  60
• 21:56
  day
• 21:57
  comment
• 21:58
  period
• 21:58
  on
• 21:59
  it.
• 21:59
  The
• 22:00
  plan
• 22:00
  is
• 22:00
  to
• 22:01
  have
• 22:01
  foreign
• 22:02
  travelers
• 22:03
  coming
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  United
• 22:04
  States
• 22:05
  in
• 22:05
  order
• 22:05
  to
• 22:05
  get
• 22:06
  permission
• 22:07
  to
• 22:07
  come.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:08
  this
• 22:08
  is
• 22:08
  including
• 22:08
  the
• 22:09
  European
• 22:09
  nations
• 22:10
  and
• 22:10
  our
• 22:10
  allies
• 22:11
  they're
• 22:11
  going
• 22:11
  to
• 22:11
  have
• 22:11
  to
• 22:12
  reveal,
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  think
• 22:14
  five
• 22:15
  years
• 22:15
  worth
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  social
• 22:16
  media
• 22:16
  data.
• 22:17
  They're
• 22:17
  going
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  have
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  give
• 22:18
  over
• 22:18
  their
• 22:18
  email
• 22:19
  addresses.
• 22:19
  And
• 22:20
  I
• 22:20
  think
• 22:20
  this
• 22:21
  is
• 22:21
  going
• 22:21
  to
• 22:22
  cut
• 22:22
  down
• 22:23
  on
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  number
• 22:24
  of
• 22:24
  foreign
• 22:24
  visitors
• 22:25
  coming
• 22:25
  into
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  United
• 22:26
  States
• 22:27
  even
• 22:27
  further.
• 22:28
  Do
• 22:28
  you
• 22:29
  think
• 22:29
  that
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  drop
• 22:30
  in
• 22:30
  foreign
• 22:31
  visitors
• 22:32
  will
• 22:32
  cause
• 22:33
  airfares
• 22:35
  going
• 22:35
  out
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  the
• 22:36
  country
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  rise?
• 22:37
  What
• 22:37
  do
• 22:37
  you
• 22:38
  think
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  impact
• 22:38
  of
• 22:39
  this
• 22:39
  could
• 22:39
  be
• 22:39
  on,
• 22:40
  on,
• 22:40
  on
• 22:41
  airfares?
• 22:42
  Right.
• 22:42
  I
• 22:43
  think
• 22:43
  the,
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  know,
• 22:45
  if
• 22:45
  there
• 22:45
  are
• 22:47
  less
• 22:47
  travelers
• 22:48
  coming
• 22:48
  in,
• 22:49
  which
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  think
• 22:50
  that
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  what
• 22:51
  this
• 22:51
  will
• 22:51
  do.
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  mean
• 22:52
  it
• 22:52
  depends
• 22:52
  on
• 22:53
  if
• 22:53
  it
• 22:53
  happens.
• 22:54
  You
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:54
  5%
• 22:55
  drop
• 22:55
  or
• 22:56
  20%
• 22:57
  drop.
• 22:57
  You
• 22:57
  know,
• 22:57
  you're
• 22:58
  not
• 22:58
  just
• 22:58
  going
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  see
• 22:59
  prices
• 23:00
  change
• 23:00
  on
• 23:00
  just
• 23:01
  leaving
• 23:01
  the,
• 23:01
  leaving
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  U.S.
• 23:02
  you're
• 23:02
  going
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  see
• 23:03
  them
• 23:03
  all,
• 23:03
  you
• 23:03
  know,
• 23:04
  on,
• 23:04
  on
• 23:04
  round
• 23:04
  trip
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  any
• 23:06
  capacity.
• 23:06
  Just
• 23:06
  because
• 23:07
  what
• 23:07
  that
• 23:07
  does
• 23:07
  is
• 23:08
  now
• 23:08
  you
• 23:08
  have
• 23:08
  less
• 23:08
  people
• 23:09
  on
• 23:09
  planes,
• 23:10
  right.
• 23:11
  So
• 23:11
  you
• 23:12
  have
• 23:12
  less
• 23:12
  supply
• 23:13
  or
• 23:14
  sorry,
• 23:14
  less
• 23:14
  demand.
• 23:15
  So
• 23:15
  you
• 23:16
  know,
• 23:16
  it's
• 23:16
  actually,
• 23:17
  it
• 23:17
  could
• 23:18
  have
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  opposite
• 23:18
  effect
• 23:18
  where
• 23:19
  it
• 23:19
  actually
• 23:19
  helps
• 23:19
  on
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  pricing
• 23:20
  front
• 23:21
  because
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  know,
• 23:22
  usually,
• 23:23
  you
• 23:23
  know,
• 23:23
  there's,
• 23:23
  they
• 23:24
  need
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  see,
• 23:24
  they
• 23:24
  need,
• 23:25
  if
• 23:25
  they
• 23:25
  need.
• 23:25
  To
• 23:26
  fill
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  seats.
• 23:27
  Yeah,
• 23:27
  you're
• 23:27
  going
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  have
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  do
• 23:28
  is
• 23:28
  they're
• 23:28
  going
• 23:28
  to
• 23:28
  have
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  drop,
• 23:29
  drop
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  prices.
• 23:31
  So
• 23:31
  that's
• 23:31
  kind
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  one,
• 23:32
  one
• 23:32
  way
• 23:32
  to
• 23:32
  go.
• 23:33
  It's
• 23:33
  hard
• 23:33
  to
• 23:33
  know,
• 23:34
  but
• 23:35
  that's
• 23:35
  one
• 23:35
  way
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  think
• 23:35
  about
• 23:36
  it
• 23:37
  as
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  potential
• 23:38
  obviously
• 23:38
  or
• 23:39
  it
• 23:39
  could
• 23:40
  percentage
• 23:40
  I.
• 23:40
  Think
• 23:41
  could,
• 23:41
  could
• 23:41
  mean
• 23:42
  more,
• 23:42
  you
• 23:43
  know,
• 23:43
  left
• 23:44
  fewer
• 23:44
  flights.
• 23:45
  We'll
• 23:45
  see.
• 23:45
  We'll
• 23:45
  see.
• 23:46
  It's
• 23:46
  very
• 23:47
  such
• 23:47
  an
• 23:47
  interesting
• 23:47
  time.
• 23:48
  I
• 23:48
  saw
• 23:49
  one
• 23:49
  talking
• 23:50
  head
• 23:50
  talking
• 23:50
  about
• 23:50
  the
• 23:51
  K
• 23:51
  shaped
• 23:51
  economy,
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  fact
• 23:53
  that
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  very
• 23:53
  rich
• 23:54
  are
• 23:54
  doing
• 23:54
  much
• 23:54
  better
• 23:55
  than
• 23:55
  they
• 23:55
  used
• 23:55
  to
• 23:56
  and
• 23:56
  then
• 23:56
  there's
• 23:56
  a
• 23:57
  lot
• 23:57
  more
• 23:57
  people
• 23:58
  who
• 23:58
  are
• 23:58
  struggling.
• 23:59
  So
• 23:59
  a
• 23:59
  K.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  because
• 24:00
  of
• 24:01
  that
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  lot
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  airlines
• 24:02
  are
• 24:02
  apparently
• 24:02
  putting
• 24:03
  in
• 24:03
  more
• 24:03
  business
• 24:04
  class
• 24:04
  seats,
• 24:05
  more
• 24:05
  first
• 24:05
  class
• 24:06
  seats.
• 24:07
  So
• 24:07
  do
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  think
• 24:07
  that
• 24:08
  if
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  continues
• 24:09
  there
• 24:09
  could
• 24:09
  be
• 24:09
  a
• 24:10
  drop
• 24:10
  in
• 24:10
  prices
• 24:11
  for
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  upper
• 24:12
  tiers
• 24:12
  of
• 24:13
  air
• 24:13
  travel?
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  don't
• 24:14
  think
• 24:14
  so.
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  think,
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  know,
• 24:15
  that's
• 24:16
  really
• 24:16
  what
• 24:16
  we're
• 24:16
  seeing
• 24:16
  is
• 24:17
  airlines,
• 24:17
  all
• 24:18
  they
• 24:18
  care
• 24:18
  about
• 24:18
  is,
• 24:19
  you
• 24:19
  know,
• 24:19
  they,
• 24:20
  they
• 24:20
  have
• 24:20
  these
• 24:21
  economy
• 24:21
  fares
• 24:22
  but
• 24:22
  they're
• 24:22
  not
• 24:22
  really
• 24:22
  making
• 24:23
  money
• 24:23
  on
• 24:23
  them.
• 24:23
  You
• 24:24
  know,
• 24:24
  they're
• 24:24
  just
• 24:24
  what
• 24:24
  they're
• 24:25
  focusing
• 24:25
  on.
• 24:25
  And
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  airlines
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  are
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  most
• 24:27
  profitable,
• 24:27
  Delta,
• 24:28
  right,
• 24:29
  Everyone's
• 24:29
  copying
• 24:29
  Delta.
• 24:30
  You
• 24:30
  know,
• 24:31
  United,
• 24:32
  American,
• 24:33
  they're
• 24:33
  all
• 24:33
  copying
• 24:33
  Delta
• 24:34
  because
• 24:34
  Delta
• 24:34
  is
• 24:35
  so
• 24:35
  profitable
• 24:36
  because
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  their
• 24:37
  premium
• 24:38
  class
• 24:38
  that
• 24:38
  now
• 24:39
  Americans,
• 24:39
  they
• 24:40
  got
• 24:40
  their
• 24:40
  flags.
• 24:40
  They're
• 24:41
  first
• 24:41
  coming
• 24:41
  in
• 24:42
  with
• 24:42
  these
• 24:42
  new
• 24:42
  A321
• 24:43
  planes
• 24:44
  that
• 24:44
  are
• 24:45
  Smaller,
• 24:45
  so
• 24:45
  they
• 24:46
  can
• 24:46
  have
• 24:46
  more
• 24:46
  of
• 24:46
  them,
• 24:46
  but
• 24:47
  they
• 24:47
  have
• 24:47
  first
• 24:48
  class
• 24:48
  in
• 24:48
  them.
• 24:49
  And
• 24:49
  then
• 24:50
  United
• 24:50
  is
• 24:50
  doing
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  same
• 24:51
  thing,
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  they're
• 24:52
  all
• 24:52
  focusing
• 24:52
  on
• 24:52
  premium
• 24:53
  travel.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:54
  these
• 24:54
  fares
• 24:54
  are
• 24:54
  so
• 24:55
  expensive,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  know,
• 24:56
  10,
• 24:57
  $15,000
• 24:58
  from
• 24:59
  New
• 24:59
  York
• 24:59
  or
• 25:00
  Salt
• 25:00
  Lake
• 25:00
  to.
• 25:00
  To
• 25:00
  Paris
• 25:01
  on
• 25:01
  Delta.
• 25:02
  Yeah,
• 25:02
  it's
• 25:03
  very
• 25:03
  expensive.
• 25:03
  So
• 25:03
  that's
• 25:03
  where
• 25:04
  they're
• 25:04
  making
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  money.
• 25:04
  And
• 25:05
  like
• 25:05
  you
• 25:05
  said,
• 25:05
  you
• 25:06
  know,
• 25:06
  if
• 25:06
  they're.
• 25:07
  They're
• 25:07
  focusing
• 25:08
  there
• 25:08
  and
• 25:09
  those
• 25:09
  prices
• 25:09
  probably
• 25:09
  won't
• 25:10
  change.
• 25:10
  It
• 25:10
  will
• 25:10
  just
• 25:11
  be
• 25:11
  the.
• 25:11
  The
• 25:11
  economy
• 25:12
  ones.
• 25:13
  I
• 25:13
  think,
• 25:13
  just
• 25:13
  based
• 25:14
  on
• 25:14
  what
• 25:14
  we're
• 25:14
  seeing
• 25:14
  in
• 25:14
  the
• 25:15
  airlines,
• 25:16
  they're
• 25:16
  focused
• 25:16
  on
• 25:16
  profitability,
• 25:17
  so
• 25:17
  they're
• 25:17
  just
• 25:17
  going
• 25:17
  to
• 25:18
  keep
• 25:18
  investing
• 25:19
  in
• 25:19
  that
• 25:19
  premium
• 25:20
  experience.
• 25:21
  Yeah.
• 25:21
  Very
• 25:22
  interesting.
• 25:23
  Well,
• 25:24
  it
• 25:24
  was
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  wonderful
• 25:25
  article,
• 25:26
  and
• 25:26
  you
• 25:27
  have
• 25:27
  a
• 25:28
  terrific
• 25:28
  service.
• 25:29
  Thank
• 25:29
  you
• 25:29
  so,
• 25:30
  so
• 25:30
  much
• 25:30
  for
• 25:30
  appearing
• 25:31
  on
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  Farmer
• 25:31
  Travel
• 25:32
  Show.
• 25:32
  Yeah,
• 25:33
  thanks
• 25:33
  for
• 25:33
  having
• 25:33
  me.
• 25:33
  Always
• 25:34
  fun
• 25:34
  to
• 25:34
  be
• 25:34
  here.
• 25:35
  And
• 25:35
  that's
• 25:36
  it
• 25:36
  for
• 25:36
  this
• 25:36
  week's
• 25:37
  show.
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  thank
• 25:37
  you
• 25:37
  so
• 25:38
  much
• 25:38
  for
• 25:38
  listening.
• 25:39
  And
• 25:39
  to
• 25:39
  those
• 25:39
  who
• 25:39
  are
• 25:39
  traveling,
• 25:40
  may
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  wish
• 25:40
  you
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  hearty
• 25:41
  bon
• 25:42
  voyage.
• 25:54
  Sour
• 25:55
  candy
• 25:56
  on
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  table?
• 25:59
  Lazy
• 26:00
  afternoons
• 26:01
  in
• 26:01
  your
• 26:02
  sweatpants
• 26:03
  Watching
• 26:03
  cable?
• 26:06
  Well,
• 26:06
  it
• 26:06
  feels
• 26:07
  so
• 26:07
  far
• 26:08
  away?
• 26:11
  All
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  channels
• 26:12
  seem
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  same?
• 26:15
  Trying
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  remember
• 26:18
  all
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  songs
• 26:19
  we
• 26:19
  like
• 26:19
  to
• 26:20
  play?
• 26:20
  Cause
• 26:21
  those
• 26:21
  lazy
• 26:22
  afternoons?
• 26:23
  Don't
• 26:23
  come
• 26:23
  so
• 26:24
  frequently
• 26:25
  these
• 26:25
  days.
• 26:30
  Long?
• 26:31
  And
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  cannot
• 26:32
  help
• 26:32
  but
• 26:33
  wonder
• 26:34
  Are
• 26:34
  you
• 26:34
  ever
• 26:35
  coming
• 26:35
  home?
• 26:36
  I
• 26:37
  like
• 26:37
  you
• 26:37
  with
• 26:37
  your
• 26:38
  sour
• 26:38
  candy
• 26:39
  in
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  boat
• 26:40
  house
• 26:40
  on
• 26:41
  the
• 26:41
  lake?
• 26:42
  Oh,
• 26:42
  but
• 26:42
  I
• 26:43
  hate,
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  hate,
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  hate,
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  hate,
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  hate,
• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  hate
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  way
• 26:47
  it
• 26:47
  takes?
• 26:59
  I
• 27:00
  can't
• 27:00
  get
• 27:00
  you
• 27:00
  off
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  my
• 27:01
  mind?
• 27:04
  Looking
• 27:05
  out
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  window
• 27:06
  where
• 27:06
  we
• 27:07
  spend
• 27:07
  so
• 27:07
  much
• 27:07
  of
• 27:08
  our
• 27:08
  time?
• 27:10
  Cause
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  miss
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  way
• 27:12
  it
• 27:12
  felt?
• 27:14
  But
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  guess
• 27:15
  you
• 27:15
  can't
• 27:16
  control
• 27:16
  those
• 27:17
  damn
• 27:17
  cards
• 27:18
  with.
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  know
• 27:21
  that
• 27:21
  both
• 27:22
  of
• 27:22
  us
• 27:22
  are
• 27:23
  happy
• 27:24
  when
• 27:24
  we're
• 27:24
  free?
• 27:25
  But
• 27:26
  would
• 27:26
  it
• 27:26
  be
• 27:26
  so
• 27:27
  hard
• 27:27
  to
• 27:28
  find
• 27:28
  your
• 27:28
  freedom
• 27:29
  here
• 27:29
  with
• 27:30
  me?
• 27:32
  Oh,
• 27:33
  it's
• 27:33
  been
• 27:34
  so
• 27:34
  long
• 27:36
  And
• 27:36
  I
• 27:36
  cannot
• 27:37
  help
• 27:37
  but
• 27:38
  wonder
• 27:38
  Are
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  ever
• 27:39
  coming
• 27:40
  home?
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  like
• 27:42
  you
• 27:42
  with
• 27:42
  your
• 27:42
  sour
• 27:43
  candy
• 27:44
  in
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  boat
• 27:45
  house
• 27:45
  on
• 27:45
  the
• 27:46
  lake?
• 27:47
  But
• 27:47
  I
• 27:47
  hate,
• 27:48
  I
• 27:48
  hate,
• 27:48
  I
• 27:49
  hate,
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  hate,
• 27:49
  I
• 27:50
  hate,
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  hate
• 27:51
  the
• 27:52
  way
• 27:52
  it
• 27:52
  takes.