Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / 10 Downing Street Sends Mixed Signals on an Epstein Inquiry (8/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Over the past twenty four hours or so,
- 0:07Speaker 1: we've received some conflicting reports out of the UK about
- 0:11Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to hold a public inquiry
- 0:15Speaker 1: into Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. The Justice Minister Jake Richards said
- 0:21Speaker 1: on Wednesday that the new government over in the UK
- 0:24Speaker 1: was looking very seriously into holding a possible public inquiry,
- 0:29Speaker 1: but almost directly on the heels of that comment, ten
- 0:32Speaker 1: Downing Street came out and set the record straight, saying
- 0:36Speaker 1: that there's no plans at least as of now, to
- 0:39Speaker 1: hold a public inquiry. So in this episode, we're going
- 0:42Speaker 1: to dive into an article from The Independent talking a
- 0:45Speaker 1: little bit more about what's currently going on as far
- 0:48Speaker 1: as the public inquiry over in the UK into the
- 0:51Speaker 1: crimes of Jeffrey Epstein. Headline Andy Burnham insists no plans
- 0:57Speaker 1: for Epstein inquiry, hours after two ministers to say the
- 1:00Speaker 1: government is looking into it. This article was authored by
- 1:04Speaker 1: Athena Stavreau and Kate Devlin. Andy Burnham is not actively
- 1:09Speaker 1: considering public inquiry into the actions of disgrace convicted pedophile
- 1:14Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. On UK soil. Despite two ministers saying the
- 1:17Speaker 1: government is looking into it, Victims Minister Alex Davies Jones
- 1:23Speaker 1: is taking the issue very seriously, as she told BBC
- 1:26Speaker 1: Newsnight that she had agreed to meet with Epstein victims
- 1:29Speaker 1: and is looking into a possible inquiry. Justice Minister Jake
- 1:34Speaker 1: Richards then said on Wednesday morning that it was right
- 1:38Speaker 1: that we look into what we can and that mister
- 1:41Speaker 1: Burnham will look into it. But it's now understood that
- 1:45Speaker 1: a public inquiry is not being actively considered by Number
- 1:48Speaker 1: ten and that's basically the White House over in the UK,
- 1:53Speaker 1: and when they say number ten, that's what they're referring to.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Miss Davies Jones resigned as Justice Minister in May, noting
- 2:00Speaker 1: a lack of bold radical action under a former Prime Minister,
- 2:04Speaker 1: Sir Cua Stormer, but returned to the role when mister
- 2:07Speaker 1: Burnham took office. She told the BBC that before joining
- 2:12Speaker 1: mister Burnham's government, she'd received assurances that he'd put victims first.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I was having multiple conversations with him and his team.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Miss Davies Jones said he agreed to meet with the
- 2:22Speaker 1: Epstein victims. He was in close contact with them throughout
- 2:25Speaker 1: the period where he was becoming Prime minister, and he
- 2:28Speaker 1: has assured me that he will meet them now that
- 2:31Speaker 1: he's Prime Minister and will work with us to look
- 2:34Speaker 1: at systemic change across the system for all victims, whether
- 2:37Speaker 1: that be victims of Epstein Harad survivors or grooming gang's victims. Well,
- 2:43Speaker 1: isn't that nice because that grooming gang issue needs to
- 2:46Speaker 1: be dealt with too. And don't even get me started
- 2:50Speaker 1: on al fay Ed. The allegations that were made against
- 2:54Speaker 1: that dude that were swept under the rug basically for
- 2:57Speaker 1: all those years, they all need to be looked into
- 3:01Speaker 1: because it looks like mister Mohammed al Fayed was a
- 3:05Speaker 1: prolific abuser. A potential inquiry into claims against Mohammed al Fayed,
- 3:12Speaker 1: the former owner of Herod's, who died in twenty twenty three,
- 3:15Speaker 1: is also under review. And you notice over in the
- 3:18Speaker 1: UK they wait for these dudes to die. I mean,
- 3:21Speaker 1: look at Jimmy Saville. Nobody wanted to talk about what
- 3:24Speaker 1: he was doing while he was alive, but once he died, oh,
- 3:28Speaker 1: everybody wanted to pile on. The Truth is people knew
- 3:31Speaker 1: he was a degenerate and they didn't care. And the
- 3:34Speaker 1: same goes for mister Mohammed al Fayed and certainly for
- 3:39Speaker 1: the scumbag Jeffrey Epstein. More than four hundred allegations of
- 3:45Speaker 1: sexual misconduct have been made against al Fayed, dating back
- 3:48Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy seven and twenty fourteen. Now, does anybody
- 3:52Speaker 1: on the planet believe that nobody ever reported him, nobody
- 3:56Speaker 1: ever punched it up the chain of command at work
- 3:59Speaker 1: at Herod's that mister Mohammed al Fayed was an absolute
- 4:03Speaker 1: piece of shit. Of course they did. It was ignored.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And why was it ignored, Well, because Mohammed al Fayed
- 4:10Speaker 1: was paying the bills. You see. They include sexual assault, rape,
- 4:15Speaker 1: sexual exploitation and human trafficking. The met Police are speaking
- 4:19Speaker 1: to at least one hundred and fifty six victims who
- 4:21Speaker 1: contacted them directly, including twenty one who came forward before
- 4:26Speaker 1: al Fayed's death at the age of ninety four. Asked
- 4:29Speaker 1: if a public inquiry was on the table, Miss Davies
- 4:32Speaker 1: Jones said, we're looking into this, we're reviewing what's possible.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Same with Harad survivors. Well, if they want to just
- 4:40Speaker 1: do a gigantic inquiry and cover all these bases. That's cool,
- 4:44Speaker 1: that'll work, in my opinion. What's unacceptable is doing nothing.
- 4:49Speaker 1: At least have this committee and bring witnesses up and
- 4:51Speaker 1: see what they have to say. We already have a
- 4:54Speaker 1: now statutory inquiry under way for the grooming gang's victims.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I've been assured that the Prime Minister is taking this
- 5:01Speaker 1: very seriously. Well, where have we heard that before? Not
- 5:05Speaker 1: exactly the first time somebody has told us that they're
- 5:07Speaker 1: going to take this seriously and then get into a
- 5:09Speaker 1: position of power and do nothing. Now we haven't reached
- 5:13Speaker 1: that point here yet, but I have my suspicions about
- 5:17Speaker 1: how serious they're going to be when it comes to
- 5:19Speaker 1: justice for people that were abused by people like Epstein
- 5:23Speaker 1: or Muhammed al Fayed. And look, that's because we live
- 5:29Speaker 1: in a world that is largely unjust, and I'm sure
- 5:33Speaker 1: that's not breaking news to most people out there. He
- 5:35Speaker 1: will meet with the victims and he's looking at what
- 5:38Speaker 1: is possible now that he has access to all the
- 5:40Speaker 1: information as Prime minister, to see what action he can take.
- 5:44Speaker 1: She continued, What more can we do to truly make
- 5:48Speaker 1: sure that our criminal justice system is taking victims seriously,
- 5:52Speaker 1: that they can rebuild that faith and trust in the
- 5:55Speaker 1: system again. Good luck. And I won't pretend to be
- 6:00Speaker 1: some kind of expert on what's going on over in
- 6:02Speaker 1: the UK, because I'm certainly not. But I know that
- 6:05Speaker 1: the trust here in America when it comes to the
- 6:07Speaker 1: institutions has been completely eroded away. And some of that
- 6:14Speaker 1: is the cause of a demoralization campaign being run against
- 6:17Speaker 1: Americans that means you, but a lot of it is
- 6:20Speaker 1: the responsibility of the institutions themselves from lying, being deceitful,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and not doing what they say they're going to do.
- 6:29Speaker 1: So can you blame people for not trusting them or
- 6:32Speaker 1: trusting the outcome? And once that happens in society, it
- 6:36Speaker 1: leads to bad things. And if we don't get our
- 6:38Speaker 1: shit together soon, we're all going to have a front
- 6:40Speaker 1: row seat to just how bad things can get. Justice
- 6:43Speaker 1: Minister Jake Richards confirmed that potential inquiry on Wednesday, telling
- 6:47Speaker 1: Sky News, well, I know that Alex and the victim
- 6:50Speaker 1: Minister had discussions with the Prime Minister about it. It's
- 6:53Speaker 1: right that we look into what we can do. No
- 6:56Speaker 1: stone should be left unturned when we consider these horrific
- 6:59Speaker 1: crimes that it seem to have happened at huge scale.
- 7:02Speaker 1: The Prime Minister will look into it. Well that's nice,
- 7:07Speaker 1: but what's he going to do after he looks into it.
- 7:09Speaker 1: That's what really matters. Plenty of people have told us, yeah,
- 7:13Speaker 1: we're going to take a look at this, we're going
- 7:14Speaker 1: to make sure that people that were responsible, people that
- 7:17Speaker 1: were involved are held accountable, only to end up getting
- 7:21Speaker 1: shit on every single time. And if you think you're frustrated,
- 7:25Speaker 1: if you think you're upset, can you imagine how the
- 7:28Speaker 1: survivors feel Time and time again. People tell them, oh,
- 7:33Speaker 1: we hear you, we care about you, only to ignore
- 7:36Speaker 1: them when the chips are down and there's nothing else
- 7:38Speaker 1: you can call that but cowardice, right, because that's what
- 7:42Speaker 1: it is, straight up cowardice. He'll take his time, no doubt,
- 7:46Speaker 1: to think about the best route for victims, but also
- 7:49Speaker 1: to crucially ensure lessons are learned, to make sure that
- 7:52Speaker 1: these sorts of things never happen again. Jess Phillips, the
- 7:55Speaker 1: former Minister for Safeguarding and Violence against Women and Girls
- 7:59Speaker 1: who resign from cure ter Starmer's government, accusing him of
- 8:01Speaker 1: failing to take bold action, told The Independent she wanted
- 8:05Speaker 1: to see an inquiry saying there's a level of impunity
- 8:08Speaker 1: that appears to have been afforded to some men with
- 8:11Speaker 1: power and money, where parts of the British state were
- 8:14Speaker 1: used to enable mass trafficking and abuse of young women
- 8:17Speaker 1: and girls. The victims deserve answers, They most certainly do. Unfortunately,
- 8:23Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get them, at least
- 8:25Speaker 1: not to the level that provides the clarity that we need. Look,
- 8:30Speaker 1: the Justice Department, the UK, all these governing bodies have
- 8:35Speaker 1: one option here if they want to regain the trust
- 8:37Speaker 1: of the people, and that is full transparency, and we
- 8:41Speaker 1: all know that's not going to happen. Epstein's survivor, Lisa Phillips,
- 8:47Speaker 1: told the BBC she hoped for a meeting with mister
- 8:49Speaker 1: Burnham would mark the beginning of a new chapter, one
- 8:52Speaker 1: where survivors are heard, lessons are learned, institutions are held accountable,
- 8:57Speaker 1: where appropriate and lasting reforms help protect future generations, not
- 9:02Speaker 1: asking for too much, God forbid, somebody that was abused
- 9:07Speaker 1: asked for some reform. The BBC reports, Leading labor campaigners
- 9:12Speaker 1: on violence against women and girls sent mister Burnham a
- 9:15Speaker 1: document calling for an impunity inquiry investigating the UK activities
- 9:20Speaker 1: of Epstein, the alleged behavior of Al Fayed, and allegations
- 9:24Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct against west Ham co owner David Sullivan.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Mister Sullivan was accused of sexually exploitative and predatory behavior
- 9:33Speaker 1: by seven women during a joint investigation by BBC's Panorama
- 9:37Speaker 1: The Times into the seventy seven year old businessman. Now,
- 9:41Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't know enough about that man's
- 9:43Speaker 1: allegations to give you an opinion one wire or the other,
- 9:47Speaker 1: but this is what's being alleged. Mister Sullivan, west Ham's
- 9:51Speaker 1: largest shareholder, stood down as joint chair of the club
- 9:54Speaker 1: shortly before the investigation was broadcast in June, saying he
- 9:58Speaker 1: wanted to focus on fighting what he he called factually
- 10:00Speaker 1: incorrect and entirely false decades old allegations concerning my personal life.
- 10:07Speaker 1: The document reportedly calls for the scope of any Epstein
- 10:10Speaker 1: inquiry to focus on UK borders and question how he
- 10:13Speaker 1: was able to fly in and out of UK military
- 10:16Speaker 1: bases on his private jet, often with women who had
- 10:19Speaker 1: allegedly been trafficked. Well, I'd love to see that. I
- 10:24Speaker 1: would love to see the UK kick that off. Do
- 10:26Speaker 1: I have confidence that it's gonna happen. No, I do not,
- 10:30Speaker 1: But as usual we'll continue to follow along and when
- 10:34Speaker 1: we have some information one way or the other will
- 10:37Speaker 1: get it added to the catalog. All the information that
- 10:40Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description box.