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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It is doomsday for Didty.
- 0:08Speaker 1: That's right, the trial starting today. I'm Nancy Grace. This
- 0:12Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Did He's big day in court looms as a last
- 0:18Speaker 2: minute plea deal from prosecutors is turned down by the
- 0:21Speaker 2: rapper and jury selections started today, the same day as
- 0:25Speaker 2: Diddy's old celebrity friends are set to gather on the
- 0:28Speaker 2: luxurious Fifth Avenue Costume Institute for the met galap.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Doomsday for Didy.
- 0:33Speaker 1: The trial starting now, jury selection underway this as Sean
- 0:39Speaker 1: comes turns down a plea deal this morning, comes in
- 0:44Speaker 1: the courtroom flanked by a pailanx of lawyers. That's always
- 0:50Speaker 1: a bad look in front of a jury because they're.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Like, WHOA you have that many lawyers? You need a
- 0:57Speaker 3: fleet of lawyers to get your rear out of a sling.
- 1:01Speaker 1: WHOA joining me in All star panel, But let's go
- 1:04Speaker 1: straight to the court house. Standing by is Lauren Conlin. Lauren,
- 1:09Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Co host Primetime Crime
- 1:12Speaker 1: on YouTube. Lauren, what's happening? Start at the beginning this
- 1:16Speaker 1: morning by Nancy.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Yes, I am outside five hundred Pearl Street, the very
- 1:21Speaker 4: courthouse where Diddy will be tried on five different federal
- 1:24Speaker 4: accounts of sex trafficking.
- 1:26Speaker 3: It was a.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Scene out here, people coming out of the courthouse screaming.
- 1:30Speaker 4: We didn't really know what was going on, but there
- 1:32Speaker 4: is a lot of press out here, a lot of
- 1:35Speaker 4: police presence, and jury's election is expected to last about
- 1:39Speaker 4: a week.
- 1:40Speaker 5: You know.
- 1:40Speaker 1: It's the image to Robert Crispin on the case from
- 1:43Speaker 1: the get go, private investigator, former DEA, former vice former
- 1:48Speaker 1: homicide Federal Task Force officer, US Department of Justice. Robert,
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's always a bad look when the jury comes in
- 1:56Speaker 1: and now this is the impaneling jury. This is sixty
- 2:00Speaker 1: to one hundred people. They're gonna whittle down to twelve jurrars.
- 2:03Speaker 1: But when they look over at the defense and he's
- 2:06Speaker 1: got a fleet an army of lawyers that they're like,
- 2:10Speaker 1: it takes that many lawyers to get your rear end out.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Of the sling. You've gotten it into bad look.
- 2:16Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be pounded into their head. You know,
- 2:19Speaker 6: you're innocent until proven guilty.
- 2:20Speaker 5: But they're going to look up and they.
- 2:22Speaker 6: Be like, wow, that's a lot of lawyers.
- 2:24Speaker 4: What is going on here?
- 2:26Speaker 7: What am I going to learn.
- 2:27Speaker 1: You know you're taking a look at Shawn Combs in
- 2:30Speaker 1: some of his finery. I can't wait to hear how
- 2:34Speaker 1: he dudes up in court again, joining me an all
- 2:37Speaker 1: star panel. This on the eve of Shawn Comes rejecting
- 2:43Speaker 1: a plea deal.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Listen.
- 2:44Speaker 2: At his last pre trial hearing, prosecutors revealed that Seawan
- 2:47Speaker 2: Diddycombs had one last chance to avoid trial, but rejected
- 2:51Speaker 2: a plea deal. Federal prosecutor Madison Schmeiser disclosed that the
- 2:56Speaker 2: deal was offered, but remained secretive about the terms. Instead,
- 3:00Speaker 2: jury will be called to hear at least three weeks
- 3:03Speaker 2: of graphic witness testimony regarding year's worth of beatings, drug
- 3:08Speaker 2: fueled coercive sex marathons, and multiple rapes.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Joining US high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, TV Legal analyst
- 3:16Speaker 1: founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal, rejecting a plea deal.
- 3:22Speaker 3: You know what I think is behind that.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I think he could not admit that what he did
- 3:29Speaker 1: was wrong. That he is guilty, no matter how sweet
- 3:33Speaker 1: the deal, unless it was straight probation.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Sean Comes is not.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Going to take a deal, Eric Fattus, even though it
- 3:39Speaker 1: may be in his best interest.
- 3:40Speaker 3: He just shot himself in the foot.
- 3:42Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, you know, as you know, he's proclaimed his
- 3:44Speaker 7: innocence from the beginning, and a deal would likely involve
- 3:48Speaker 7: years in prison. I would think, you know, he's not
- 3:51Speaker 7: the youngest guy in the world, and so if he
- 3:54Speaker 7: did take a plea deal, that could be a death
- 3:56Speaker 7: sentence for him professionally. You know, he has all of
- 3:59Speaker 7: these tracks and brand deals and that kind of thing,
- 4:02Speaker 7: or at least he had them, and to try to
- 4:04Speaker 7: have some semblance of the possibility of getting those later,
- 4:06Speaker 7: he would need to prevail at this priss and a
- 4:08Speaker 7: plea deal would not allow for them.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, the death now is ringing doomsday
- 4:16Speaker 1: for Diddy. You're saying that if he pled guilty that
- 4:19Speaker 1: would ruin his what public persona?
- 4:22Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? That's ruined? What what are you
- 4:26Speaker 3: talking about?
- 4:27Speaker 1: He's already been charged under multi count federal indictment of drugging.
- 4:31Speaker 3: You know what.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Straight out to Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive director
- 4:35Speaker 1: Lyn's Warriors, dedicated to ending sex violence on girls and women.
- 4:40Speaker 3: His public image, Hey, do we.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Have that picture of Shawn Comes wearing a crown at
- 4:46Speaker 1: one of his free coughs. What public image, Lynn Shaw,
- 4:50Speaker 1: There is no public image.
- 4:52Speaker 8: Dirty Dinny is going down. We are so happy and
- 4:56Speaker 8: grateful for today because finally, finally victims and survivors can
- 5:00Speaker 8: see some sort of accountability that it got this far.
- 5:03Speaker 8: And yes, it'll be very graphic in court, but it's
- 5:06Speaker 8: about time the public. Here's the truths and the realities
- 5:09Speaker 8: of what goes on with sex trafficking. We have to
- 5:13Speaker 8: all get on board. They are all waiting, and not
- 5:16Speaker 8: only victims and survivors. I guess alleged I'm supposed to
- 5:19Speaker 8: say of this criminal. I guess I'm supposed to say alleged,
- 5:20Speaker 8: but I'm saying criminal. We here in New York City.
- 5:23Speaker 8: I can't tell you the messages I am receiving. This
- 5:26Speaker 8: is finally happening. We've been waiting eight months, powerful man.
- 5:30Speaker 8: There is no public image, there are no brand deals.
- 5:33Speaker 8: He crossed the wrong people, and Dirty Diddy is done.
- 5:37Speaker 8: Now it's time for the public to weigh in. And
- 5:39Speaker 8: you know what, this is going.
- 5:41Speaker 5: Down down down.
- 5:43Speaker 3: This is the state's case to screw up.
- 5:46Speaker 1: They have got witnesses, they have got freak off videos.
- 5:50Speaker 1: What Sean Combs has is a very powerful and charismatic
- 5:55Speaker 1: presence in the courtroom, and he's got a fleet of
- 5:58Speaker 1: some of the best lawyers in the country.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Number One, he turns down a plea deal.
- 6:03Speaker 1: This literally as the jury is filing in, drinking in.
- 6:08Speaker 3: Shawn Combs and all of his lawyers.
- 6:11Speaker 1: This after another failed bid to delay the trial.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Listen Sean Ditty.
- 6:17Speaker 9: Combs loses his bid to delay trial and jury selection
- 6:20Speaker 9: begins as celebrities did. He once bumped arms with Gather
- 6:23Speaker 9: from the met Gala. Judge Arun Supermanian has allowed Combs
- 6:27Speaker 9: to ditch his prison clothes for the proceedings where prosecutors
- 6:30Speaker 9: plan to prove to a jury. Combs used his many
- 6:33Speaker 9: business enterprises to facilitate free COFs featuring male prostitutes and
- 6:37Speaker 9: women coerced into the performance. Opening statements are expected on
- 6:41Speaker 9: May twelfth.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Straight back to the courthouse.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Standing there with us, Lauren Connlin, Lauren, how long do
- 6:46Speaker 1: we believe jury selection will take?
- 6:49Speaker 5: Jury selection is supposed to take a week.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Nancy, But I think it's going to be pretty difficult here.
- 6:56Speaker 4: I mean, Diddy is pretty well known in New York City.
- 6:59Speaker 4: If you remember, he was actually once given the key
- 7:02Speaker 4: to New York City by the mayor. But as far
- 7:04Speaker 4: as the questionnaire goes for the jury, there have been
- 7:08Speaker 4: filings that said that the potential jurors will be asked
- 7:12Speaker 4: how they feel about multiple sex partners, how they feel
- 7:16Speaker 4: about hip hop artists and the hip hop industry.
- 7:19Speaker 5: They will be asked about if they have had.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Any experience being sexually assaulted, and this will actually be
- 7:27Speaker 4: written or verbal depending on what the jury purfers. And
- 7:31Speaker 4: Sean Holmes will be present for all of that questioning.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Yeah, the questions are very invasive on the jury, Lauren,
- 7:39Speaker 1: what does Diddy look like?
- 7:40Speaker 4: Well, Diddy walked in wearing a dark crew neck sweater
- 7:43Speaker 4: and a dress shirt.
- 7:44Speaker 5: He was not wearing a tie.
- 7:46Speaker 4: We know that he had a big win where he
- 7:49Speaker 4: was granted the ability to wear his own clothes. He's
- 7:52Speaker 4: a fashionable guy. He will be able to switch up, yes,
- 7:55Speaker 4: between five dress shirts, by sweaters, by socks, and two
- 7:59Speaker 4: pairs of shoes without laces. And yeah, I'm thinking here,
- 8:03Speaker 4: I mean, he must be pretty crushing. I see the
- 8:05Speaker 4: met Galla tonight, his friend Lebron James ho shairing it
- 8:09Speaker 4: and he's stuck in federal courts.
- 8:11Speaker 1: You know what, Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us. Renow Psycho
- 8:14Speaker 1: Analy's joining us out of la author of deal Breaker.
- 8:18Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock, Doctor Bethany. That
- 8:22Speaker 1: has got to her because there is Sean Combs in
- 8:26Speaker 1: a federal courtroom, you know, dressed up, all these jurrors
- 8:31Speaker 1: coming in to take a look at him and his
- 8:33Speaker 1: fleet of lawyers. While across town the met Gala is
- 8:36Speaker 1: going on, and he has always been a star there.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Remember all the outfits. Oh there he is laying on
- 8:43Speaker 1: the steps. Okay, capes, walking canes, dripping in jewelry.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. The met Gala is his thing. Now,
- 8:55Speaker 3: see it's his thing.
- 8:56Speaker 10: You know that necklace he's wearing right there that looks
- 8:58Speaker 10: like it's about an eighty carrot diamond cross necklace. I
- 9:03Speaker 10: think he's probably experiencing what we would say in my
- 9:06Speaker 10: field a narcissistic injury, meaning in his world he's king.
- 9:11Speaker 10: That's why he wears the king's crown. So the fact
- 9:16Speaker 10: that he's in a cell with five outsets available to
- 9:20Speaker 10: him is going to be very injurious. P Diddy thinks
- 9:23Speaker 10: he's right. He still thinks he's the ring leader of
- 9:28Speaker 10: the circus of filth and that everybody's.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Going to follow along.
- 9:30Speaker 10: And that's why he won't take a plea because with
- 9:33Speaker 10: people like p Ditty, they are so aggressively certain that
- 9:38Speaker 10: their position is correct that they don't back down. In fact,
- 9:42Speaker 10: they really take on the fight. You would think P.
- 9:45Speaker 10: Ditty would go into court and try to manipulate by
- 9:48Speaker 10: t taking the plea, but he's not going to do that.
- 9:51Speaker 10: He's not going to would be manipulative. He's going to
- 9:53Speaker 10: insist that he is right and that everybody should conform
- 9:56Speaker 10: to him. He's probably doing that with his attorneys right now. Well,
- 10:00Speaker 10: and that's going to make this trial fascinating.
- 10:03Speaker 3: You know, Eric Fattas, that was always a moment for
- 10:08Speaker 3: me in the courtroom when.
- 10:09Speaker 1: The jurors to being paneled. I don't mean the twelve
- 10:12Speaker 1: on the Pettit jury. I mean the huge panel from
- 10:15Speaker 1: which you select the Pettit jury of twelve.
- 10:17Speaker 3: That was always a moment.
- 10:19Speaker 1: If I were to have been nervous in courtroom, that
- 10:22Speaker 1: would have been that that moment, because that's something you
- 10:26Speaker 1: cannot plan for, that's something you cannot anticipate. You don't
- 10:31Speaker 1: know the jurors' names or who they are before that moment.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I would know who all my witnesses were going to be.
- 10:37Speaker 1: I would know down to the question what they were
- 10:41Speaker 1: going to say.
- 10:42Speaker 3: I need the evidence. I was bringing it in. It
- 10:44Speaker 3: was all marked, ready to go.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I was waiting, waiting to commence trial, completely prepared.
- 10:52Speaker 3: The one thing you cannot prepare for is the jury.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Who those jurrrs are, and they're going to need at
- 10:58Speaker 1: least two hundred jars just to start to whittle it
- 11:01Speaker 1: down to twelve. You don't know where they're from, what
- 11:04Speaker 1: their experiences are, who they are, You've never seen them before.
- 11:08Speaker 1: It's like shaking up a pot and picking out a number.
- 11:12Speaker 1: That's what the jury selection process is. You have no
- 11:15Speaker 1: way to prepare for that. What about it, Faddus, Yeah, I.
- 11:18Speaker 7: Mean, look, you can only make one first impression, right,
- 11:21Speaker 7: and so the jury's coming in that they're serving the courtroom,
- 11:24Speaker 7: they're looking at the prosecutors, the judge, but at some
- 11:26Speaker 7: point they're going to be laser focused on Diddy. What
- 11:29Speaker 7: is he wearing, What is his demeanor like, how is
- 11:31Speaker 7: he presenting? What are his facial expressions, What are his
- 11:34Speaker 7: reactions to what the prosecutors saying, what the defense is saying,
- 11:37Speaker 7: what the judges, saying, all of those things are going
- 11:40Speaker 7: to be closely surveilled by these potential jurors as they're
- 11:44Speaker 7: getting acquainted with the court group process and the participants
- 11:47Speaker 7: there in.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, we are getting reports from
- 12:02Speaker 1: the courtroom. Lauren Conlin, Lauren joining us at the courthouse.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Seawn Kime's dressed in the navy pullover?
- 12:08Speaker 3: What what?
- 12:10Speaker 1: What is he going for? The Harvard freshman look? A
- 12:13Speaker 1: Navy pullover?
- 12:14Speaker 3: My rear end.
- 12:15Speaker 1: I've never seen him in a pullover in my life.
- 12:19Speaker 3: I mean, I saw the.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Menendez brothers trying to pull that off in court. Didn't work.
- 12:23Speaker 1: But Sean comes mister style and a pullover.
- 12:29Speaker 4: What well, Nancy, as you know, what you wear as
- 12:33Speaker 4: a defendant in court is really important. You said it
- 12:36Speaker 4: yourself the Menendez brothers. I mean, he wants to create
- 12:40Speaker 4: this image in the courthouse for the jurors that he's
- 12:44Speaker 4: this innocent guy. His only crime, Nancy, as he said,
- 12:47Speaker 4: is being a swinger, and that's what he wants to
- 12:49Speaker 4: get across. He is not this sexual devian, he is
- 12:53Speaker 4: not this criminal mastermind. He's just a guy that engages
- 12:58Speaker 4: in a casual sex.
- 13:00Speaker 11: Did he dressed like a college freshman. As crowds lining
- 13:03Speaker 11: the block to get into the courtroom, US Marshalls and
- 13:06Speaker 11: NYPD set up barricades to control flow of people.
- 13:09Speaker 1: The shots you're seeing right now are of Sean Combs
- 13:12Speaker 1: aka Ditty aka Puff aka Puff Daddy aka Love It
- 13:18Speaker 1: goes On and on. Are of him at the mat Gala.
- 13:22Speaker 1: There he is getting his star on the Walk of Fame.
- 13:26Speaker 3: There.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Now we're back at the met Gala, and there he
- 13:29Speaker 1: is with Cassie Ventia. I call her victim number one.
- 13:34Speaker 1: And that is all going down across town. As Diddy
- 13:39Speaker 1: is facing looking all his potential jurors eye to eye,
- 13:44Speaker 1: wonder what they're thinking. Guarantee this he is not blinged
- 13:48Speaker 1: out in the courtroom. He's trying to look like a
- 13:51Speaker 1: Harvard freshman. Let's see if that works. But what are
- 13:55Speaker 1: the jurors thinking?
- 13:57Speaker 11: Take a listen, Sean Ditty Combs defense lawyers insist he
- 14:01Speaker 11: isn't a rapist but a swinger. Attorney Mark Agnifilo tells
- 14:04Speaker 11: the court Comb simply engaged in a swinger lifestyle, seeing
- 14:08Speaker 11: nothing wrong with his behavior because it's common. Agnifilo asserts
- 14:12Speaker 11: it's so common that many people find the lifestyle appropriate.
- 14:16Speaker 11: In a March filing, lawyer Alexandra Shapiro wrote, prosecutors always
- 14:20Speaker 11: seem to conclude that the sex lives of black men
- 14:23Speaker 11: are bad enough to deserve punishment.
- 14:25Speaker 1: What, okay, don't hate me because I'm a swinger. A swinger,
- 14:32Speaker 1: that's not at all what this case is about.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Number one.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Most of the jurors are not gonna like the idea
- 14:40Speaker 1: of swinging number one, which is multiple sex partners by agreement.
- 14:45Speaker 1: But that said, let's just take a look at what
- 14:48Speaker 1: I think will probably be states Exhibit number two.
- 14:52Speaker 3: After the free cough video. This is from our friends
- 14:54Speaker 3: at CNN. Let's just watch it in full. What now?
- 14:57Speaker 3: This is part of being in a.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Consensual qu swinging relationship. Consentual out Okay, you think Cassie Ventira, Oh,
- 15:06Speaker 1: consented to that man? It's like he's working. Uh, he's
- 15:11Speaker 1: out for the Boca Junior Soccer Club. That was one
- 15:15Speaker 1: kick and it was right to her vital organs. Now,
- 15:20Speaker 1: according to reports, this is Cassie Ventior, his so called
- 15:23Speaker 1: consensual sex partner, trying to flee a multi day free
- 15:29Speaker 1: cough where the women are drugged, completely slathered in baby
- 15:33Speaker 1: oil and then raped on video. No wonder she was running. Okay,
- 15:38Speaker 1: there's petulant Diddy. Yeah he's not happy. Ow okay, there
- 15:43Speaker 1: goes about a two thousand dollars vase right there in
- 15:45Speaker 1: the Intercontinental. Now, one of the trial ploys is that
- 15:50Speaker 1: CNN doctored the tape. Really, that's the best you've got,
- 15:57Speaker 1: Brian Steele and Agnafello. That CNN one of the most
- 16:01Speaker 1: trusted names in the news business.
- 16:02Speaker 3: That sounds like an ad Oh it is doctored the tape.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Well, according to sources, prosecutors have gotten the full and
- 16:12Speaker 1: unedited tape to play to the jury.
- 16:16Speaker 3: So be careful. What you wish Seawan comes for, you
- 16:18Speaker 3: will surely get it.
- 16:20Speaker 1: You don't want the edited tape where CNN do it
- 16:22Speaker 1: want to play thirty minutes of you chasing Cassie up
- 16:25Speaker 1: and down the hall. The jury can watch the entire
- 16:30Speaker 1: unedited tape.
- 16:31Speaker 3: I wonder what's going to be on that.
- 16:33Speaker 1: And to suggest that CNN or anybody else doctor the evidence,
- 16:37Speaker 1: you are really at the bottom of the barrel. I
- 16:39Speaker 1: would not say that in front of the jury, but hey,
- 16:41Speaker 1: you know what, go ahead, let's talk about swinging to
- 16:46Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall joining us psychoanalyst out of la at
- 16:50Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany explain that whole
- 16:54Speaker 1: thing as you know, you know how I feel, open marriage,
- 16:58Speaker 1: open casket.
- 16:59Speaker 3: But that's just me.
- 17:01Speaker 1: I have had that mate into a T shirt which
- 17:04Speaker 1: are wear on my anniversary. But swinging, doctor Bethany, how's
- 17:08Speaker 1: injury going to react to that?
- 17:09Speaker 3: Well?
- 17:10Speaker 10: I think juries are pretty mature and they can understand
- 17:12Speaker 10: what swinging is.
- 17:13Speaker 12: Swinging is when.
- 17:14Speaker 10: A couple opens up the relationship to a third party.
- 17:17Speaker 10: And you know, swingers play by very specific rules. They're
- 17:20Speaker 10: not cheating on each other, they're not going out behind
- 17:23Speaker 10: each other's backs. Typically one couple hooks up with an
- 17:27Speaker 10: individual or they hook up with another couple. So it's
- 17:30Speaker 10: very it's very sedate in some ways, it's very consensual.
- 17:34Speaker 10: And I do say multi partner family configurations in my
- 17:39Speaker 10: office where they may be maybe four or five.
- 17:41Speaker 3: People is a part of a couple.
- 17:42Speaker 10: They are so kind, they are so polite.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Could you repeat that what you have cludis in your
- 17:48Speaker 1: office and they not heard the words four or five?
- 17:49Speaker 10: What four or five members of the romantic configuration where
- 17:54Speaker 10: they all respect each.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Other shaving configuration.
- 17:58Speaker 1: How's injury going to respons that's true, four or five
- 18:02Speaker 1: members of a sex configuration, that's right?
- 18:06Speaker 3: Is that what you just said? That is exactly what
- 18:09Speaker 3: I said. And what's interesting. I don't care.
- 18:12Speaker 1: But when women wake up having been drugged and their
- 18:17Speaker 1: vaginas and their anises hurt, I mean, Robert Crispin joining me,
- 18:22Speaker 1: it's just address what doctor Bethany just said. I'm not
- 18:24Speaker 1: saying she's wrong, and I don't care. I don't care
- 18:28Speaker 1: what anybody else does. Cats and dogs sleeping together, I
- 18:31Speaker 1: don't care. But when women wake up after being looted,
- 18:38Speaker 1: quay looted, ruthied, and their private parts are hurting and bleeding,
- 18:45Speaker 1: and then later on Crispin, they find out that there's
- 18:50Speaker 1: a video of them where their limbs have been arranged
- 18:54Speaker 1: to get a better angle as they are raped, that
- 18:58Speaker 1: is what the state is talking about. They're not talking
- 19:02Speaker 1: about whatever that was that doctor Bethany just said.
- 19:05Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going Nancy with that angle, because
- 19:08Speaker 6: if they can get it out to the jury that
- 19:10Speaker 6: a lot of these people are swingers, then that's going
- 19:13Speaker 6: to kind of dull down the freak offs, because the
- 19:16Speaker 6: freakoffs of a bunch of people having sex at the
- 19:18Speaker 6: same time. And if you can buy one or two
- 19:21Speaker 6: jurors and tell them that this was nothing more than
- 19:24Speaker 6: just swinging, then they may go, all right, so it's freakoffs.
- 19:27Speaker 6: Is a bunch of people who like to be with
- 19:28Speaker 6: other sex partners? Yeah, okay, I don't have a problem
- 19:30Speaker 6: because I do it. No, not mean, but they might
- 19:33Speaker 6: go I do it?
- 19:34Speaker 1: Okay, put him on. Wait wait, so wait a minute,
- 19:36Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Slow down, Nelly.
- 19:42Speaker 1: You're saying the jury is going to react to this.
- 19:45Speaker 1: How I mean, think about the odds. Okay, the Vegas odds.
- 19:50Speaker 1: You were in vice, you can relate to that before
- 19:52Speaker 1: you were in homicide and DOJ and your illustrious career
- 19:56Speaker 1: the odds. How many swingers do you think you're going
- 20:00Speaker 1: to get on this jury? You might get a couple
- 20:01Speaker 1: of people that have cheated and don't want anybody to
- 20:04Speaker 1: find out. That chance that they're going to answer that
- 20:06Speaker 1: and a ger our questionnaire. Hgaln that is not going
- 20:11Speaker 1: to be put in the record. Oh yeah, I cheated
- 20:12Speaker 1: my wife all the time, so I don't care what
- 20:15Speaker 1: did he does. That's not going to happen So Crispin,
- 20:18Speaker 1: let's just look at the odds. How many people do
- 20:21Speaker 1: you think are going to be on a jury of
- 20:23Speaker 1: twelve with let's say four maybe six alternates that are swingers.
- 20:29Speaker 1: As doctor Bethany acts like, yeah, that happens all the time,
- 20:32Speaker 1: guess what, Bethany. Maybe in la it happens all the time,
- 20:36Speaker 1: but I don't think across the country it happens all
- 20:39Speaker 1: the time.
- 20:40Speaker 6: There are a larger group of people in all our
- 20:44Speaker 6: neighborhoods that are swingers, and I think that they had no.
- 20:47Speaker 3: Where do you live?
- 20:49Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not living in a monastery, and I
- 20:52Speaker 1: don't really know what my neighbors are doing unless my
- 20:54Speaker 1: cat gets in their yard.
- 20:55Speaker 3: But how would you you know?
- 20:59Speaker 6: You know what, We've worked in our time, and there's
- 21:02Speaker 6: just those type of crowd that's out there. And this
- 21:05Speaker 6: is unless you can think of another way. I can't.
- 21:07Speaker 6: This is one way to dispel the free colls and
- 21:11Speaker 6: to explain the free colls and take the bite away
- 21:14Speaker 6: from the jury that these were drug fueled rapes. If
- 21:19Speaker 6: you can get someone on a jury, listen only takes one.
- 21:23Speaker 3: Maybe if I get two, how do you live with yourself?
- 21:26Speaker 3: Spewing that these were raped. You know what, I don't
- 21:31Speaker 3: under say it. Lynn Shaw is going to say it
- 21:33Speaker 3: for me.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Lynnshaw, can you address Crispin, because if you start listening
- 21:36Speaker 1: to Crispin and Fattest, you start thinking, oh, hey, maybe
- 21:40Speaker 1: it is more normal than I think. Hey, I don't
- 21:43Speaker 1: care if it's normal, but don't care what other people do.
- 21:46Speaker 1: What I care about is a violation of the law.
- 21:49Speaker 1: What I care about is a violent felony. And I
- 21:52Speaker 1: find it very hard to believe that kicking Cassi Ventira
- 21:56Speaker 1: in the stomach look like her kidney, hitting her in
- 22:00Speaker 1: the head, and literally dragging her like a caveman down
- 22:03Speaker 1: the hall back to.
- 22:04Speaker 3: A freak cough.
- 22:05Speaker 1: If it was so consensual, why was she being literally
- 22:09Speaker 1: dragged back to it?
- 22:11Speaker 3: Crispin.
- 22:12Speaker 8: I'm ashamed of you saying this because I've worked in entertainment.
- 22:15Speaker 8: I'm in the middle of New York City. I was
- 22:17Speaker 8: just part of being picked for a jury, and I
- 22:21Speaker 8: have to tell you here in New York I found
- 22:23Speaker 8: the other people rather conservative. Working in entertainment and being
- 22:27Speaker 8: around the music business. This really is not normal behavior.
- 22:30Speaker 8: If he wants to call himself this dirty diddy, bad
- 22:33Speaker 8: boy pullover sweater you know, a choir boy. He would
- 22:36Speaker 8: have come out in the beginning saying I'm a swinger.
- 22:38Speaker 8: All you have to do is look at the Cassie
- 22:41Speaker 8: Ventura tape. That's what the public will see, That's what
- 22:44Speaker 8: the jury will see, and they will hold him accountable.
- 22:46Speaker 8: There's been too much out in the press, out in
- 22:49Speaker 8: the world about this guy. They're going to look at
- 22:51Speaker 8: him and say he's rich, he's entitled. Cassie Ventura, That's
- 22:54Speaker 8: what they're going to look at. They don't care about
- 22:56Speaker 8: a pullover sweater. They don't care about swinging. It's done
- 23:00Speaker 8: going down. Everybody swinging.
- 23:02Speaker 1: What did doctor Bethany say, consensual sex configurations of multiple partners? Okay,
- 23:11Speaker 1: then if everything is so consensual, why did Diddy do this?
- 23:18Speaker 13: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
- 23:22Speaker 13: your life.
- 23:24Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta do that.
- 23:27Speaker 11: I was fuck up.
- 23:30Speaker 13: I mean, I hit rock bottom, But I make no excuses.
- 23:34Speaker 3: My behavior on that video is inexcusable.
- 23:39Speaker 13: I take full responsibility for my actions in that video.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Disgusted.
- 23:46Speaker 13: I was disgusted then when I did it.
- 23:48Speaker 3: I'm disgusting now. I went and I sought out professional help.
- 23:56Speaker 13: Now to go into therapy I'm going to rehab. Had
- 24:02Speaker 13: to ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
- 24:15Speaker 13: but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day.
- 24:19Speaker 13: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
- 24:27Speaker 1: That was from Diddy's official Instagram page.
- 24:30Speaker 3: Can we just address what he just said?
- 24:32Speaker 1: And I hope that that has been marked as the
- 24:34Speaker 1: states exhibit the apology because number one panel, listen up,
- 24:39Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your response on this.
- 24:41Speaker 3: He says that was his quote darkest time. No it's not.
- 24:45Speaker 1: It is so by far not your darkest time, the
- 24:48Speaker 1: time that you beat just one woman.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Cassie Ventura.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, You've got a fleet of women
- 24:55Speaker 1: claiming you did that, and a lot worse. He says,
- 24:59Speaker 1: I'm discussed, not half as disgusted as I am, or
- 25:03Speaker 1: not half as disgusted as how this.
- 25:05Speaker 3: Jury's gonna feel.
- 25:06Speaker 1: And he's saying, I take full responsibility for what I did,
- 25:10Speaker 1: Really full responsibility. Then why aren't you pleading guilty?
- 25:15Speaker 3: And you know it goes on and on.
- 25:17Speaker 1: He says he is going to go to rehab. Rehab.
- 25:21Speaker 1: I never heard that Diddy went to rehab. Is one
- 25:24Speaker 1: person sitting on this panel that has ever heard that
- 25:28Speaker 1: Sean Combs went to rehab.
- 25:30Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear this. He goes on and on.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Jury selections starting right now. He says he wants mercy
- 25:38Speaker 1: and grace. You know what, you can get mercy and
- 25:41Speaker 1: grace behind bars. You don't have to be walking free
- 25:46Speaker 1: to get mercy and grace. Straight out to Lauren Collin
- 25:49Speaker 1: joining us at the courthouse, Lauren, tell me about the
- 25:52Speaker 1: scene this morning when everyone was trying to get into
- 25:56Speaker 1: the courthouse.
- 25:56Speaker 5: Yes, Nancy, it was crazy.
- 25:58Speaker 4: There were lines around the courthouse, incredibly crowded, lots of
- 26:03Speaker 4: police presence with barricades trying to control the flow of
- 26:07Speaker 4: people and the flow of press trying to get in
- 26:10Speaker 4: to report or observe on the jury selection.
- 26:13Speaker 1: I say, one beefy looking guy that's walking around behind you.
- 26:17Speaker 1: He's dressed in all gray. He looks like he's packing.
- 26:20Speaker 1: From what I can tell from here, he looks like
- 26:23Speaker 1: a fed He just walked out of range of your camera.
- 26:27Speaker 3: So I guess the courthouse is flanked with law enforcement.
- 26:30Speaker 4: Yes, it's flanked with law enforcement, as it should be.
- 26:33Speaker 4: Like I said, when I was here earlier, there was
- 26:36Speaker 4: people going crazy walking out of the courthouse, I thought
- 26:39Speaker 4: they had weapons. I thought they were going to do
- 26:41Speaker 4: something violent, so'm I was very thankful that there was
- 26:44Speaker 4: lots of police presence here.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Now we understand that there is a new defense on
- 26:50Speaker 1: the horizon. But before we get to that, to doctor
- 26:53Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, you heard that apology video.
- 26:56Speaker 3: How's that going to play?
- 26:57Speaker 1: Certainly they're going to bring it in because if everything
- 26:59Speaker 1: that happened with Cassie Ventiro, who is one of the
- 27:01Speaker 1: state's strongest witnesses and one of the few victims that
- 27:06Speaker 1: wants her name in open court. The other victims are
- 27:10Speaker 1: going by victim two, victim three, she's going by her name.
- 27:17Speaker 1: The fact that he says it's all consensual, Then what
- 27:20Speaker 1: about that apology video? Did you get all that I'm
- 27:22Speaker 1: disgusted with myself? Not have as disgusted as I am.
- 27:26Speaker 1: This is my darkest moment. No, no it's not. I
- 27:29Speaker 1: take full responsibility. Then why not plea I'm going to
- 27:32Speaker 1: go to rehab. No, no, it's too late for a rehab.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Plus he never went what about what he was saying
- 27:39Speaker 1: that apology video.
- 27:41Speaker 10: I love when he says I'm going to go to
- 27:43Speaker 10: therapy like he couldn't even pronounce the word. I'm like, yikes,
- 27:46Speaker 10: I hope he's not a patient coming into my office anyway.
- 27:49Speaker 10: What all of your listeners are going to recognize here
- 27:52Speaker 10: is the honeymoon phase of the cycle of abuse. Right
- 27:55Speaker 10: the man batters the woman, the woman tries to get away,
- 27:59Speaker 10: then he becomes remorseful, says he's going to do better,
- 28:03Speaker 10: that he's going to go to rehab, and then as
- 28:05Speaker 10: as soon as the woman comes back again, then the
- 28:09Speaker 10: perpetrator gains acendency and power over the woman again. It
- 28:14Speaker 10: is a cycle that repeats endlessly. And as I was
- 28:16Speaker 10: looking at his face right now, I thought of all
- 28:19Speaker 10: the women, women who are viewers who might be on
- 28:21Speaker 10: the jury, maybe jurors who have daughters or sons who
- 28:25Speaker 10: have been battered, and they have seen that face, they
- 28:28Speaker 10: have seen that person say, and all the abusers say
- 28:31Speaker 10: in all sincerity, I'm sorry, I'm going to get help.
- 28:35Speaker 10: I did not mean to do it, and they look
- 28:37Speaker 10: at the person and think, I know you're lying, because
- 28:40Speaker 10: you're just going to do it all over again. Jurors
- 28:43Speaker 10: aren't stupid, They're going to see right through this.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Joining us Eric Fattus high profile lawyer out of LA
- 28:49Speaker 1: but practices in multiple jurisdictions. Okay, Faddest, I guess you
- 28:53Speaker 1: want in on the apology video, Nancy.
- 28:56Speaker 7: There's something buried in there that the ultimato rings pretty
- 28:59Speaker 7: hall for most. But buried in there when he's talking
- 29:02Speaker 7: about hitting rock bottom, seeking professional help, going to rehab,
- 29:05Speaker 7: what he could be doing is setting himself up for
- 29:07Speaker 7: what's called a diminish mental capacity defense, essentially arguing that, hey,
- 29:12Speaker 7: I was so whacked out of my mind on whatever
- 29:14Speaker 7: that I wasn't able to form the mental state to
- 29:17Speaker 7: commit this crime, and therefore, ju or you got to
- 29:19Speaker 7: give me a break.
- 29:20Speaker 1: At any point in that apology video, did you hear
- 29:24Speaker 1: him say one word about his mental state? You're just
- 29:28Speaker 1: making that up.
- 29:29Speaker 7: What I'm saying is that if he's talking about being
- 29:31Speaker 7: overly intoxicated on substances that can't be used in trial.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Rehab, did he Jackie, did he say overly intoxicated in
- 29:41Speaker 1: that video? Did he say one thing about drugs or alcohol?
- 29:45Speaker 1: Did Sidney Sumner joining me Crimeonline dot Com and Crime
- 29:48Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter Sydney, We have watched that apology video,
- 29:52Speaker 1: you and I fifty times. I don't hear anything about
- 29:56Speaker 1: I was.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Drunk or I was high. I didn't hear anything like that, No, ma'am,
- 30:01Speaker 3: not at all.
- 30:02Speaker 14: Combs does not mention having some kind of diminished mental
- 30:07Speaker 14: capacity that caused him to attack his then girlfriend.
- 30:11Speaker 3: His defense has come out and said.
- 30:13Speaker 15: You know, this is a year long relationship that had
- 30:17Speaker 15: plenty of issues, and this was simply an argument that
- 30:22Speaker 15: got a little bit out of control.
- 30:24Speaker 5: A little bit.
- 30:25Speaker 14: That doesn't feel like a little bit to me. Throwing
- 30:27Speaker 14: a base somebody that you love or claimed to love
- 30:32Speaker 14: does not feel like a little bit of an argument
- 30:34Speaker 14: that got out of hand.
- 30:36Speaker 3: So no, he doesn't mention.
- 30:38Speaker 5: That he was drunk or high.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Well got me, Sidney is the kidney punch? The kidney kick?
- 30:43Speaker 3: Did you see him kick or write the kidney?
- 30:45Speaker 14: It's ridiculous, Nancy. No amount of violence should ever be
- 30:49Speaker 14: tolerated in a relationship.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Much less one like this.
- 30:52Speaker 14: You are a celebrity, you should be held to a
- 30:54Speaker 14: higher standard. And it seems like Combs only used his
- 30:58Speaker 14: wealth and power to cover up bad behavior.
- 31:00Speaker 1: I'm going to address Eric Fattis's diminished capacity argument in
- 31:05Speaker 1: just a moment, but needless to say, Sean Combs runs
- 31:08Speaker 1: a billion dollar empire that he has built from scratch,
- 31:14Speaker 1: according to prosecutors, by violence, threats, beatings, and it goes
- 31:20Speaker 1: on and on. That's how he amassed a billion dollar fortune,
- 31:26Speaker 1: according to prosecutors. But what he's saying in that apology video,
- 31:31Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw joining us from Lyn's Warriors, what do.
- 31:35Speaker 3: You make of it?
- 31:36Speaker 1: I pray that he brings up that the Cassie incident.
- 31:43Speaker 3: That's certainly putting perfume on.
- 31:44Speaker 1: The pig, the beating, the aggravated assault with hands and
- 31:48Speaker 1: feet as the deadly weapon. I want them to say
- 31:53Speaker 1: that's consensual, so then the state can bring on that
- 31:56Speaker 1: apology video.
- 31:58Speaker 3: If he didn't do it, why is the apology land.
- 32:00Speaker 8: First of all, that wasn't an apology. That was save me,
- 32:04Speaker 8: Save me, invoking God and I'm at my lowest point.
- 32:10Speaker 8: First of all, we have to remember physical violence is
- 32:12Speaker 8: never accepted in any kind of relationship. Second of all,
- 32:15Speaker 8: I never heard him say at all, and that apology
- 32:18Speaker 8: as I put air quotes around that I am sorry, Cassie,
- 32:22Speaker 8: I'll do better. He never addressed her by name. I
- 32:25Speaker 8: don't even understand. That's a piece of garbage.
- 32:27Speaker 3: Throw it out.
- 32:28Speaker 8: I maintain victim after victim had stories of abuse like.
- 32:32Speaker 3: This, You know what, He's just going down.
- 32:34Speaker 5: That's all I can say. It's done.
- 32:36Speaker 8: Dirty Diddy is done.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 32:51Speaker 11: Investigators taking a second look into the nineteen ninety nine
- 32:54Speaker 11: Club New York shooting based on allegations Combs bragged about
- 32:57Speaker 11: bribing witnesses and jurorsy trial, sharing that he pulled the triggers,
- 33:01Speaker 11: not Jamal Shine Barrow. Barrow served nine years in prison
- 33:04Speaker 11: for opening fire and injuring three while I was celebrating
- 33:07Speaker 11: a new record deal with Combs and his girlfriend Jennifer Lopez.
- 33:10Speaker 11: The lawsuit a ledges. Combs shared that Lopez carried the
- 33:13Speaker 11: gun and passed it to him during the altercation. Victim
- 33:16Speaker 11: Natanya Rubin, has also long insisted that Comb shot her,
- 33:20Speaker 11: not Barrow. Lopez was never charged in the shooting, and
- 33:23Speaker 11: Combs was acquitted of four counts criminal possession of a
- 33:26Speaker 11: weapon and bribery.
- 33:28Speaker 12: The same way you're sure that I have on a
- 33:30Speaker 12: green shirt, I'm certain that he shot me.
- 33:32Speaker 5: Now, was he aiming at me?
- 33:33Speaker 12: Was I the object of his fire? Absolutely not. I
- 33:37Speaker 12: should not have been, because I didn't do anything to him.
- 33:39Speaker 12: I watched them both fire their guns. I watched them
- 33:43Speaker 12: I got hit right here in my nose, in between
- 33:47Speaker 12: my eyes, which means I'm facing directly at you.
- 33:49Speaker 1: That victim spaking, and that is from the art of dialogue. Now,
- 33:54Speaker 1: rumors swirling that Jennifer Lopez will be called into court
- 33:57Speaker 1: on that case. HU showing a propensity for violence and
- 34:04Speaker 1: escaping justice. We're waiting to find out if that's going
- 34:07Speaker 1: to happen. But Fattus actually, although he completely fabricated it
- 34:11Speaker 1: from whole cloth, brought up a defense that we believe
- 34:15Speaker 1: will be used at trial, although it did not rear
- 34:18Speaker 1: its ugly head in the apology video listen.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Diddy's defense may now be arguing he did not have
- 34:23Speaker 2: the mental capacity to commit the alleged crimes.
- 34:26Speaker 3: The lawyer's plan to put psychiatrist doctor.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Ely Awen on the stand to explain that, due to
- 34:31Speaker 2: drug and alcohol use, Sean Combs did not have the
- 34:33Speaker 2: capacity to form the men's rea required to commit the
- 34:37Speaker 2: alleged offenses, in other words, a guilty mind. Prosecutors are
- 34:41Speaker 2: fighting to block the testimony, claiming the rap mogul needed
- 34:44Speaker 2: to file prior notice of his intent to argue a
- 34:47Speaker 2: mental disease or defect bearing on the issue of guilt.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Eric Fattus, this is going to be difficult. It is
- 34:53Speaker 1: for all lawyers, But I'd like a yes no answer.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Isn't it true that voluntary use of drugs or alcohol
- 35:02Speaker 1: is never a defense?
- 35:04Speaker 7: No, Nancy, I don't believe that's accurate. So voluntary intoxication
- 35:09Speaker 7: can potentially be a defense for he called specific intent
- 35:12Speaker 7: crimes crime Church three, in this case, transporting someone across
- 35:16Speaker 7: state lines with the intent, the specific intent that they
- 35:19Speaker 7: engage in prostitution. That is specific intent crime for which
- 35:23Speaker 7: voluntary intoxication could be applicable. The defense is going to
- 35:27Speaker 7: argue that he did not have a lucid awareness of
- 35:30Speaker 7: exactly what was going on and what he was.
- 35:31Speaker 3: Doing fifty miles a minute.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Hold on, let's just break down what you just said
- 35:39Speaker 1: for real. Okay, you said that when Shawn comes was
- 35:44Speaker 1: making phone calls and texting all his contacts, you mean
- 35:49Speaker 1: the sex workers in other states that he was flying in,
- 35:53Speaker 1: he was too drawn or high to know what he
- 35:56Speaker 1: was doing.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Is That's what that means what you just said.
- 36:00Speaker 1: So what you're saying, you're going to argue that in
- 36:03Speaker 1: front of a jury diminished capacity when he's calling all
- 36:07Speaker 1: his friends, well employees, going, hey, could you get me
- 36:11Speaker 1: those prostitutes from New York that I really like and
- 36:15Speaker 1: fly them into la or fly them into Florida. You
- 36:18Speaker 1: think that that could be done while you're a higher drunk.
- 36:22Speaker 7: The law requires a loosent awareness and understanding of what
- 36:27Speaker 7: you're doing, the facts and circumstances surrounded your actions, and
- 36:30Speaker 7: defense can certainly argue to this jury that what he was.
- 36:34Speaker 1: Doing when he was dialing his phone, Okay, hold on, argument,
- 36:39Speaker 1: what about the rapes and the Shawncombe sitting back like
- 36:45Speaker 1: an Oscar winning director going could you move her left
- 36:49Speaker 1: leg over and put her right arm above her head
- 36:52Speaker 1: so we can get a better angle of the rape?
- 36:55Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that he was high or drunk and
- 36:58Speaker 1: didn't know what he was saying?
- 37:00Speaker 7: I think the prosecution can present a donal evidence that
- 37:02Speaker 7: he did know what was going on. But as to
- 37:05Speaker 7: the question of whether he can present this kind of
- 37:08Speaker 7: an argument to the jury, I think on some of
- 37:10Speaker 7: these charges, on some of these allegations, k.
- 37:12Speaker 1: I hear something, it's a bell tolling? Okay, what about that?
- 37:17Speaker 1: What about of course fatus is totally ignoring a huge
- 37:21Speaker 1: and vast body of law that says voluntary use of
- 37:26Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol is not a defense. Okay, that said Lynnshaw,
- 37:31Speaker 1: jump in Land jump in.
- 37:33Speaker 8: I'm jumping out of my seat here trying to maintain
- 37:35Speaker 8: my control. I mean, I'm not a lawyer. I don't
- 37:37Speaker 8: play one on TV. We need the video evidence. What
- 37:40Speaker 8: are you talking about? This was a complicit operation. I
- 37:43Speaker 8: want to know about all the other people involved. Who
- 37:45Speaker 8: are actually carrying out his dirty ditty deeds. Who was phoning,
- 37:49Speaker 8: who was making the travel arrangements, the hotels, the car services,
- 37:52Speaker 8: who was securing the drugs, the loop everything we've talked
- 37:55Speaker 8: about for months about Dirty Diddy. This was a sex
- 37:58Speaker 8: trafficking operation across state lines. If they can stick with that,
- 38:02Speaker 8: we're going to have an outcome that is positive for
- 38:04Speaker 8: all sex trafficking survivors and victims. I maintain he is
- 38:08Speaker 8: going down. There is no defense here. Again, I'm not
- 38:10Speaker 8: a lawyer either, but you know what, video evidence. Too
- 38:13Speaker 8: many people talking about the same way they were treated, drugs,
- 38:17Speaker 8: all this stuff going on. Why though, I have to
- 38:19Speaker 8: leave you with this, Why was this allowed? Who are
- 38:21Speaker 8: the other complicit players? How did he get away with
- 38:24Speaker 8: this for so long. He is done, Dirty Diddy down.
- 38:28Speaker 8: And it begins today.
- 38:29Speaker 1: With lines wrapped around the courthouse, barricades, law enforcement trying
- 38:35Speaker 1: to keep the public out, everyone trying to get into
- 38:39Speaker 1: the courtroom to see Sean Combs on day one of
- 38:41Speaker 1: his trial. This is jury selection straight to the courthouse,
- 38:45Speaker 1: standing by Lauren Colin.
- 38:47Speaker 3: Co host Primetime Crime on YouTube. Lauren, what about JERRR?
- 38:51Speaker 3: Number two?
- 38:52Speaker 1: That certainly certainly started off with a bang ooh.
- 38:55Speaker 5: Nancy, you're number two. This is really interesting.
- 38:59Speaker 4: Number two had a family member who had experienced domestic violence,
- 39:03Speaker 4: but actually said that this would not affect them being
- 39:07Speaker 4: fair and impartial. They also were asked about public figures
- 39:11Speaker 4: like Michael B. Jordan and Mike Myers, and they also
- 39:14Speaker 4: said their familiarity with these public figures would not affect
- 39:18Speaker 4: them being impartial.
- 39:19Speaker 5: The law deer started.
- 39:20Speaker 4: About an hour and a half after did he arrived,
- 39:23Speaker 4: which is.
- 39:24Speaker 5: Around nine am. So yeah, they're getting things done. Nancy
- 39:29Speaker 5: joining me.
- 39:30Speaker 1: Private investigator Robert Crispin, former Federal Task Force officer usdj
- 39:35Speaker 1: DEA and Miami Field Division now Crispin Investigations dot Com. Robert,
- 39:41Speaker 1: you also investigated a lot of vice cases. I just
- 39:46Speaker 1: don't think a jury is going to buy the swinger
- 39:49Speaker 1: aspect or the fact the example that Fatus gave I
- 39:53Speaker 1: was too drunk to know what I was doing, because
- 39:56Speaker 1: there are so many counts. I mean, you've heard it before.
- 39:59Speaker 1: What how was dropped?
- 40:00Speaker 3: What happened? Yeah, that's not a defense obviously.
- 40:03Speaker 6: You know your lawyers will tell you that. You know.
- 40:06Speaker 6: In his video, if I can go back to that
- 40:08Speaker 6: for just one quick minute, he refers back to God
- 40:11Speaker 6: a lot. And I tell you, as an investigator investigating
- 40:14Speaker 6: a lot of people that were currently under investigation, not
- 40:17Speaker 6: in custody, yet you watch their behavior and if they're
- 40:21Speaker 6: a prime suspect, there is a pattern. And I think
- 40:23Speaker 6: the doctor will tell you, and other investigators will tell
- 40:26Speaker 6: you that guilty people or people believe to be guilty
- 40:30Speaker 6: always immediately turned to God. They start going to church
- 40:34Speaker 6: all the time, they start talking about God. That is,
- 40:37Speaker 6: to an investigator, one of the signs that your target
- 40:41Speaker 6: is probably guilty or pretty dark close to being guilty,
- 40:45Speaker 6: that God fearing bringing them into their interviews where there's
- 40:50Speaker 6: no pattern that we know of. Did he going to
- 40:53Speaker 6: church every Sunday? We're talking about God, but in this
- 40:56Speaker 6: video he refers to it and more than one occasion.
- 40:59Speaker 3: We wait as jury selection unfolds. It's expected to take
- 41:03Speaker 3: multiple days, very long days in the courtroom.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Let's see how Shawn Combs holds up under jury's selection,
- 41:10Speaker 1: looking each juror in the face as they answer questions about.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Him Sean Combs.
- 41:17Speaker 1: The trial set to start May twelve, but in actuality
- 41:22Speaker 1: it started today.
- 41:24Speaker 3: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.