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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the seventeenth of July twenty twenty four, just
- 0:11after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK Colin News. I'm your host Mike
- 0:14Robinson. Joining me in the studio today, Charles Mallett. Welcome to the
- 0:16program, Charles, and from Damascus, Vanessa Billy. Now we're going to
- 0:22get kicked off with, of course, the State Opening of Parliament, the
- 0:25King's speech. It was deeply engaging for anybody that watched it. So let's
- 0:31just run through the key points here. So they're going to focus the new
- 0:36Labor government apparently is going to focus on illegal migration. I'll explain why illegal
- 0:41is in bold sorry, in a minute. Online Safety of course, we
- 0:47talked about that on Monday. Energy Railways. They're going to renationalize the railways,
- 0:52but they're not going to buy back the shares. They're going to wait
- 0:55for the We're going to wait for the contracts to expire and then basically take
- 1:00controlled back. So that's could be another public private partnership. Undoubtedly devolution planning
- 1:06will come on to these in the second. Mental health and homeschooling are I
- 1:11suppose the key ones. But if we look at the migration situation. First,
- 1:15here is a graph from nineteen ninety one up until up to date.
- 1:19The red line there being the number of people that have come into the country,
- 1:23so that's basically a rolling annual quantity, and then the green line being
- 1:27the number of people that have left the country and the gray line being the
- 1:32net migration. And if we look at the peak there, which is one
- 1:37point two million people, so this is in June twenty twenty three. So
- 1:41this is the figure of people that came into the country between June twenty twenty
- 1:44two and June twenty twenty three, one point two million people and of those
- 1:49fifty two five hundred and thirty were considered to be illegal migrants. So my
- 1:55question is if migration is an issue for most people, then why are why,
- 2:00as Nigel farage wise, everybody focusing on illegal or so called irregular migration.
- 2:07It's the regular migration which is the really having the major impact on population
- 2:14in the UK. So but Liver Party, continuing with the same narrative we
- 2:20mentioned online safety on Monday, Liver will build on the Online Safety Act,
- 2:25they said in their manifesto, and before the election they had said that they
- 2:30absolutely supported the idea of legal but harmful. Now, if you remember,
- 2:35this was the concept that speech on the Internet which was legal but was viewed
- 2:40as being harmful, should be censored. Well, they are intending to bring
- 2:46this back. Charles is going to be covering a little bit on energy in
- 2:49a minute. But of course we also mentioned on Monday the setting up of
- 2:53the so called Mission Control for Clean Power twenty thirty and well maybe we'll Charles
- 3:00will be covering how they're going to implement this later on in the program.
- 3:05But just to comment on this briefly, the King speech says astro trader to
- 3:10see legislation to create gb Energy. Now a couple of interesting points about that.
- 3:15GiB Energy will be based in Scotland. But he goes on to say
- 3:19a confused attempt to set up a nationalized energy company. Oddly it will neither
- 3:23generate part or sell it, but instead designed to pass on to taxpayers projects
- 3:29private sector decided are not viable. This may be true, but I think
- 3:34it's not the whole story. I think again we're looking at public private partnerships
- 3:38in anger here and so we keep an eye on this to see how that
- 3:42develops. Mental health was mentioned and particular of particularly of interest, and we've
- 3:49got to keep our eyes out for this. They're talking about the amending the
- 3:53ways that people can be sectioned or the terms under which people can be sectioned.
- 3:59It's not clear to me yet and I haven't seen very many comments about
- 4:02it in various media sources what exactly that means. So that's another one we've
- 4:08got to keep an eye on. And then of course we've got the question
- 4:13of education. And you're going to have to remind me the name of the
- 4:17Education Secretary Phillipson, Richard Phillipson. It's on screen for gonna sake, right
- 4:23anyways, she was giving a speech before the election. Again it's on the
- 4:27liberal list if anybody is in the slightest bit interested in going to see the
- 4:30pantomime. But the key point about here the usual rhetoric about rising educational standards
- 4:35and so on. But it does look, Charles like they are going to
- 4:39implement a national register of homeschoolers. I don't know if you've got any thoughts
- 4:44on that. Well, it seems, sir. I mean, it's yet
- 4:46another instance where the net has been cast wide in effect to capture, they
- 4:54say, to capture people who are not being educated in a correct manner.
- 5:00Therefore the parents of in effect abrogated responsibility. But of course what they really
- 5:03mean to do is to capture everybody within this net, including all the homeschoolers
- 5:09who are giving perfectly sufficient or more than a better education than the state might
- 5:14be might be putting on. So it's really a sort of smoke screen,
- 5:17I think, to bring under control those that are seeking to operate outside the
- 5:24government's tentacles. And another issue mentioned was devolution. So let's listen to Angela
- 5:30Renner from a day or two ago speaking about this. Well, first of
- 5:34all, this is an opportunity for those councils that haven't had a devolution package
- 5:40to really get on board, and I hope that they'll take up that offer
- 5:43and we can devolve things like skills, housing planning and employment support to really
- 5:49kick start what's happening in their local area. As the Prime Minister set out,
- 5:55those with skin in the game are at the forefront of really making the
- 5:59change for us to get that growth across the whole of the country. We
- 6:02know that we have to work in partnership with local authorities, with mayors and
- 6:05to really kick start our economy everywhere. You'll have noticed that I changed the
- 6:12department name to put local government right at the heart of it again. You
- 6:15know, these local authorities provide some of the most critical services to people every
- 6:20single day, and I recognize that. I recognize the challenge that they've faced
- 6:25over the last fourteen years, and that's why I want to put them on
- 6:29stable footing for the future and really bring them around the table to tackle some
- 6:32of the inequalities and the things that are holding them back. So the question
- 6:40is nationalization of local authorities because we know that many many local authorities in major
- 6:47financial difficulties at the moment and effectively bankrupt. But of course, this whole
- 6:51devolution the agenda has been going on for quite a long time. It's part
- 6:55of Agenda twenty one. And again, if you haven't picked up a copy
- 6:58of Your Life in their Hands, please do so from the UK column shop,
- 7:01because we explain the devolution process and how that's changed over the last twenty
- 7:05or thirty years and why it's being done. It is part of Agenda twenty
- 7:10one and therefore Agenda twenty thirty and they're probably not going to stop there.
- 7:15They're also talking about setting up consoles of the type that Ben Ruben has been
- 7:21speaking about with a view to replacing the House of Lords. They're certainly talking
- 7:26about getting rid of the remaining hereditary peers, so any independent or non party
- 7:31political members of the House of Lords will go and so on. There's a
- 7:36big discussion to be had on the House of Lords and so on, but
- 7:42that's for another time. And the other thing that was mentioned that I just
- 7:45wanted to throw into the mix hereies They were very very clear that while Britain
- 7:53will stay within NATTO and will support NATTO till its dying breath, there is
- 7:58renewed momentum into building a European defense capability and a new treaty being talked about
- 8:05with which is effectively going right back to the whole European Defense Union agenda that
- 8:09we were speaking about in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen up until
- 8:13Brexit, so that policy has not disappeared. But Charles Watt is the situation
- 8:22then with defense slash war in general, because of a review coming there is
- 8:28there absolutely is yes, another one and this is really prefixed with what Ron
- 8:33and Mike indeed been talking about, certainly with regard to the new government and
- 8:37John Healey, the Defense Minister, effectively talking about not only the defense of
- 8:41the United Kingdom beginning with the defense of Ukraine, as though there is some
- 8:46existential threat to the United Kingdom because of what's happening in Ukraine and Russia,
- 8:50but also that you, as a member of the population, are too stupid
- 8:56to understand exactly what's going on. However, they are going to set it
- 8:58out for us, and they've commissioned a new strategic defense review. And if
- 9:03this gives you the sense of deja vous, that will be because some of
- 9:07the people involved in it this time around are the same as last time.
- 9:11So here we see the effectively the press release on the government website and they
- 9:16talk about it requiring a new type of review. Of course, the last
- 9:18sort of comparable one was in twenty ten, the Strategic Defense and Security Review
- 9:22in the Cameron Coalition government. But here we have it being led by well,
- 9:28effectively being led by the Defense sectory John Healey, but really underlying that
- 9:33by Lord Robertson fear in a Hill and General Richard Barons. So we'll go
- 9:39through them one by one. The first thing to say about Robertson, of
- 9:43course, is that he was there in ninety eight for the Strategic Defense Review
- 9:48of the then Blair government, and since then he's been involved in a number
- 9:54of different places, but most significantly BP, where an actual fact, has
- 9:58been a special advisor with regard to Russian investments. Interestingly, but also he
- 10:03has been involved with the United States based Cohen Group, set up by William
- 10:09Cohen, the former American Defense Secretary in the late nineties early two thousands,
- 10:13So it's very obvious which way we are looking with regard to this defense review.
- 10:18Also, I thought i'd point out that the Guardian here reporting back in
- 10:22ninety nine when Tony Blair nominated Robertson to go for the Secretary General of NATO
- 10:28job, he said, if George gets the job, he can be replaced
- 10:31as Defense Secretary without too much trouble, effectively saying that he wasn't perhaps going
- 10:39to be the best person for that job. Now, the reason I mentioned
- 10:41Blair is that we've looked at this again in the past, but the Institute
- 10:45for Global Change, of course, is very much heating up their defense rhetoric,
- 10:50and they've recently had their Reimagining Defense conference and new capability. So that
- 10:54would be the time to mention the appointment of Nick Carter, former head of
- 10:58the Armed Forces here and his connections to Helsing Defense and their cyber AI and
- 11:03drone capabilities. So the theme of vested interests here is a very very strong
- 11:11one. Then we've got Fiona Hill, the presidential advisor to the White House
- 11:16twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen under Donald Trump, and of course bearing in mind
- 11:20that the likely bet now, especially in light of what's happened, is that
- 11:24Trump might well be in the chair again later this year. She of course
- 11:28has the contact, but just to give an idea of what sort of a
- 11:31view she has on defense and the current situation now, this is an article
- 11:35from Politico in February twenty twenty two saying yes he would, meaning that Putin
- 11:41would absolutely use nuclear weapons. Her sort of summary of what she stated in
- 11:46that interview that was transcribed into an article. She believes that there's been a
- 11:50long term policy failure by NATO, in fact, not to contain Russia and
- 11:56stand up to Russia. She believes that Russia will not stop at Ukraine.
- 11:58They really are after a territorial conquering of other parcels of land, that there
- 12:05needs to be an international response to stop Russia, i e. Beyond NATO,
- 12:09beyond the EU and international response. She absolutely believes that Putin wants to
- 12:13use nuclear weapons, and she has gone as far as directly comparing Putin to
- 12:18Hitler. So that's how she sees things, and of course she is going
- 12:22to be very influential. I should have mentioned also that set out in the
- 12:26government press release, it was made very clear that this wasn't going to be
- 12:31something that just happened within government. It was also going to be without and
- 12:35we've already looked at some of the vested interests here and indeed the connections,
- 12:37so we should be under no illusion that this is going to involve an awful
- 12:43lot of interested parties well outside the arena of government. Now, the next
- 12:48person to look at is Baron's General, Sir Richard Barons, who was Commander
- 12:54of the Joint My apologies, I forget the previous job he held in the
- 13:01Army Commander Joint Force Command, that's what it was. Anyway, you won't
- 13:05be surprised to know that he is now involved with Universal Defense and Security solutions,
- 13:09so is in effect in the defense industry, and worth noting that he
- 13:13is specializing very much on AI, the cyber part of it, as well
- 13:18as space, which of course we've talked about recently, and indeed the modernization
- 13:24of defense. And Mike's just got another point on this, the other point
- 13:28to make. But General Sir Richard Barns. Of course, he's a personal
- 13:30friend of Chris Donnelly and therefore, and I believe he was part of the
- 13:33Institute for Staircraft at the time, so he is an absolute Russophobe. Yeah,
- 13:39absolutely, And Russifobe was the tag really that I should have applied to
- 13:41Fiona Hill. I mean, obviously in the mainstream she's referred to as a
- 13:45Russia specialist, but these days it's increasingly hard to find a Russia specialist that
- 13:48is not, in actual fact a Russo foe. So these are a sort
- 13:52of snapshot into the people that are going to be leading this defense review and
- 13:56the likely direction it's going to go in, which is going to be a
- 14:00very close tie to the United States and a sole focus on being part of
- 14:05NATO, that is pursuing a proxy war against Russia by keeping in all likelihood
- 14:13keeping Ukraine at arm's length, because of the Article five responsibility to become involved
- 14:18directly with Russia should NATO become well, so sorry, should Ukraine become a
- 14:24member of NATO. So what we do now is we'll just look back at
- 14:28sort of how we've got here and the situation we are in. And I'm
- 14:31going to mention Patrick Sanders, General Patrick Sanders, who has just finished as
- 14:35head of the British Army and joins that very long list of generals who says
- 14:39all the important stuff. The moment he's left the army. He has just
- 14:43said that he believes that the British Army is in such a parlor state that
- 14:48they might be able to fight a small war for approximately one month, but
- 14:54no more than that. And I've put the picture on screen of kirst armor
- 14:56in his probably not particularly well and combat. So he's getting amongst it and
- 15:03he's being pushed on by people like Sanders speaking out against this. But of
- 15:09course, whilst Sanders's views should be taken well, certainly with perhaps a pinch
- 15:18of salt, they should also be viewed in the context of the suggestions of
- 15:22both national service and conscription, because in effect, the provocation of response is
- 15:28meant to be that we are in a situation where there is an existential threat
- 15:31to the United Kingdom, and in order to counter that and put Ukraine first
- 15:35and the uk first, people need to get behind defense and to support it
- 15:39by putting young men and women in the firing line. So that's why I
- 15:43mention Sanders in particular. But really we have to look at who benefits from
- 15:50this, and this is from the Financial Times this morning, showing the five
- 15:54year chart for the all share aerospace and defense industries, with the red arrows
- 15:58showing first of all when the Ukraine conflict started in February twenty twenty two and
- 16:03then Gaza in October twenty twenty three. And it's very clear that all of
- 16:07these people who are going to be involved in this review are benefiting in some
- 16:12way from the upward trajectory of that graph, and that really is a huge
- 16:18part of what it's about. So also where we are now with regard to
- 16:21the integrating Integrated Operating Concept the IOC, which again we've talked about Lot four,
- 16:26but I put it previously that we are somewhere between the third and fourth
- 16:32stages constrained being proactive and assertive. It may involve the use of force,
- 16:36and of course the next step being warfighting. So Mike, I'm sure you've
- 16:40got some follow up comments to make and we'll keep an eye on how this
- 16:44does go, but that they're saying it's going to be conducted at pace and
- 16:47we'll be delivered early in twenty twenty five. Yes, you mentioned the integrated
- 16:52operating concept. We've got to always keep in mind that that was the military
- 16:56doctrine that where the UK openly declare that its own population is potentially as much
- 17:03an enemy as any foreign population. Perfect, good point. Yes, so
- 17:07let's welcome Vanessa to the program, and Vanessa, you've got a bit more
- 17:12on Donald Trump. Yes, I just wanted to cover the rather dramatic events.
- 17:21I'm not going to go into huge details about what I consider to be
- 17:23the huge anomalies in the entire narrative, but I just wanted to point out,
- 17:30you know, the idea that this might be either a structural deep event,
- 17:36and we can see the definition of that from from the Wiki Life,
- 17:45which is basically it's effectively deep state creating an environment in which the political landscape
- 17:56or enormous changes to society can be brought about. You then, also,
- 18:02of course have the state crime against democracy, which is the current state carrying
- 18:07out a crime in order to bring about certain events. So I would recommend
- 18:15watching Kevin Ryan Genocide and Emperor identifying structural deep events and state crimes against democracy
- 18:23in real time to better understand how this might tie in with what has just
- 18:30happened in the United States. Now, one of the or two of the
- 18:33main reasons that I consider that this could have been some kind of orchestrated event
- 18:40is the speed with which Trump paraphernalia appeared on market stores and on social media
- 18:48and across the board following the alleged attempted assassination, including T shirts, posters,
- 18:56etc. And the in unice and very jingoistic emotional messaging being put out
- 19:03by a certain high level social media commentators and media people, including Tucker Carlson
- 19:11and Scott Ritter. And then these kind of videos that suddenly also appeared promoting
- 19:18Trump as some kind of cult figure and very much appealing to the Christian Zionist
- 19:23and the Christian market in the United States, depicting him as having been saved
- 19:30by God from death. So let's just have a quick look or dip into
- 19:34one of these videos. I'm going to look you in the eyes, and
- 19:40I'm going to tell you the future. It's an American story, and that's
- 19:44why Americans are going to love it. People are going to build you up,
- 19:48God are they going to. Because when you're great and new, we
- 19:52love you. Man. We'll build you into something that doesn't even exist.
- 19:57You're going to change the fucking world. But you know what, once they've
- 20:03built you as high as they possibly can, they're going to tear you back
- 20:07down. It's the most predictable pattern. We build you into something that doesn't
- 20:11exist, and that means you have to try to be that thing. I'm
- 20:18not sure if I recommend watching the full video, but anyway, that gives
- 20:22you some idea of the messaging that's now really permeating social media and media at
- 20:29the center and right and all of what I call the America First crowd are
- 20:37now absolutely on fire. As I said, very jingoistic messaging. Donald Trump
- 20:44is going to end all wars. Donald Trump is going to prevent the escalation
- 20:48of nuclear war with Russia. But there's almost complete silence on what Donald Trump
- 20:55might actually do to prevent the ongoing genocide in so that suddenly seems to have
- 21:00completely dropped off the radar from many of these commentators, although they're pushing back
- 21:07on that commentary and observation from some of us. So I want to now
- 21:14just have a quick look at who Donald Trump is, what his previous administration
- 21:19achieved or didn't achieve in the Middle East. So, first of all,
- 21:23Donald Trump is a Zionist fan. He's been given more than one million by
- 21:33APAK by the pro Israel lobby. If we look at Trump's messaging, particularly
- 21:40towards Israel and the Middle East. Of course, he said very clearly we
- 21:45should have kept the oil in Iraq, So no condemnation, they're of the
- 21:51US policy to invade Iraq, and then a very quick video showing him explaining
- 21:56why he was keeping US military in So we want to worry about our things.
- 22:03We're keeping the oil. We have the the oil is secure. We
- 22:07left troops behind only for the oil. So we left troops behind only for
- 22:15the oil, not to fight Isis, of course, which is what the
- 22:18general pretext for the United States military footprint inside Syria, occupying Syrian resources in
- 22:25the northeast. He then went on to say, after fifty two years,
- 22:29it's time for the United States to fully recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights,
- 22:34which is of critical strategic and security importance to the State of Israel and
- 22:41regional stability. Of course, Israel takes thirty percent of its water resources from
- 22:48the occupied Doland Heights, which of course is Syrian territory. Message from Parish
- 22:53Shahabi, they're basically saying, you will never have stability in the region while
- 22:57you allow Israel to occupy our territory and to cause exodus from our territory.
- 23:06He then recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital and ordered the US embassy to move and
- 23:12in fact, Natanyahu even called for the new Goland Settlement named after Trump.
- 23:19He also brought in under his administration the Abraham Accords, claiming that it was
- 23:26the dawn of a new Middle East. He celebrated the Abraham Accords with White
- 23:30House signing ceremony. Of course, the Abraham Accords is recognized by the majority
- 23:36of the Palestinian nationalist movements as being a complete betrayal of their movement, and
- 23:42to a degree, of course, it's bringing in the success of the Greater
- 23:47Israel project by aligning Israel with particularly the Gulf States and Egypt, and then
- 23:55let's have a look at a recent video from Trump where he's actually pushed for
- 24:00Israel to go harder in Gaza. So number one, they have to finish
- 24:06the job. Israel has to finish that job. They have to finish it
- 24:08quickly, strongly, and they have to get back to life again because it's
- 24:15taken too long. They have to finish the job, saying, go win,
- 24:18win, and finish. Got to win, got to win. Israel,
- 24:21they don't have the back end that they once had. You'll give it
- 24:23to them. I'm good, I'm good, But they don't have the back
- 24:27in. Even Schumer has become like a Palestinian. Chuck Schumer, Jewish,
- 24:33always strong for Israel. He's become like a Palestinian. I mean quite incredible
- 24:41that there is no mention, as I said, of the Israeli genocide of
- 24:45Palestinians in Gaza and in the occupied territories, and also the use of the
- 24:52term Palestinian as a race of racist, disparaging label. And he does it
- 24:59again and in the debate with Biden, if we just quickly roll that actually
- 25:06Israel is the one and you should let him go and let him finish the
- 25:08job. He doesn't want to do it. He's become like a Palestinian.
- 25:11But they don't like him because he's a very bad Palaestinian. He's a weak
- 25:15one. So they should finish the job. One assumes that means the full
- 25:22ethnic cleansing of Gaza and Palestinian territory. Then let's have a look at JD.
- 25:29Vance. Trump has selected him as running mate after a last minute push
- 25:36from his son. So let's have a look at jd Vance again, backed
- 25:40by the Zionists and by Apak one hundred and sixty seven thousand there in.
- 25:45I think that's twenty twenty two jd Vance. I will be a strong advocate
- 25:48for Israel in the Senate. And then let's have a look at Vance's messaging
- 25:53almost immediately regarding Iran. So if we roll the video, a lot of
- 25:59people recognize that we need to do something with Iran, but not these weak
- 26:03little bombing runs. If you're going to punch the Iranians, you punch it
- 26:06hard. And that's what he did when he took out sol the Money.
- 26:10Of course, Solemoney, the commander of the IRGC who defeated ISIS in Iraq
- 26:17and Syria effectively was assassinated by Trump and then let's have a look at what
- 26:22Vance has to say about the Abraham Accords that I mentioned. See, maybe
- 26:27the most important diplomatic breakthrough of the Trump administration was the Abraham Cords. If
- 26:32you want to check Iran, the way to do it is to one withdraw
- 26:36their oil money, which of course Joe Biden's been bad about it. But
- 26:38you've also got to enable the Israelis and the Sunni Ara of States to work
- 26:42together and actually provide a counterbalance to Iran. Joe Biden has done nothing.
- 26:47You had the infrastructure there sitting there to week in Iran to strengthen our ally
- 26:52Israel. Joe Biden's done nothing with it. Donald Trump and reinvigorated I think
- 26:56one know about you, but I understand this is very clear messaging that the
- 27:03destruction of the Middle East is part of Trump's policy. Finally, with a
- 27:08war with Iran, and I think it's also important to look at the Christian
- 27:14Zionist element and the Zionist element within Trump's administration and following and I do recommend
- 27:21that everybody rewatches if they have already seen it, and watches again they have,
- 27:26or watches if they haven't. Dark Crusade a look at the origins of
- 27:30Christian Zionists with Clifford Kirikoff in an interview that you did, Mike. But
- 27:37I think you know all of these so called America First promoters that are on
- 27:42social media now and in the media claiming that Trump is going to put America
- 27:48first. I actually remember in twenty twenty one when everybody was saying, oh
- 27:55my god, you know, we have to have something better than Trump,
- 27:57and so they voted in Biden. Now we have oh my god, we
- 28:02have to have something better than Biden, so we'll bring back in Trump.
- 28:06I mean, it's kind of I don't know, goldfish politics, as far
- 28:10as I can see, keeps going around in the same cycle. But I
- 28:15think the dangers are with Trump and his administration is that we're going to see
- 28:22a ramping up of support for Israel and for the Zionist a gender and hegemony
- 28:27in the region, which will mean the destruction of Palestine, potentially Lebanon,
- 28:34Syria, Iraq, and eventually Iran. So while the America First crew are
- 28:41claiming that Trump is better because he will prevent a nuclear war with Russia,
- 28:45they are effectively ignoring the potential threat for West Asia. And of course America
- 28:53first for me means Israel first. That's the end of it. And it's
- 28:57no different with Biden to try two sides of the same coin. And and
- 29:04you know, okay, Trump is saying we need to end the war in
- 29:07Ukraine. Russia is not really the target, but he is absolutely focused on
- 29:11China. He wants to take that argument into the into the South China Sea
- 29:17uh and and into Iran. So Iran has been on the US hit list
- 29:21for so many years now and that hasn't changed. And Trump is not a
- 29:25peacemaker. And that's the key point here. And for the people that are
- 29:29you know, that are fighting or at least arguing against the Ukraine war,
- 29:33but are claiming support for Trump, this this is missing the point, I
- 29:37think. And well we could talk about a little bit more about that in
- 29:41Extra. So thank you for that, Vanessa. Okay, if you like
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- 30:34First of all, Laura Demery Charles that's right, Yeah, that's now
- 30:38up on the website, went out last week, but I really would encourage
- 30:41you to listen to it. We've spoken a lot about the doctrine of the
- 30:44lesser Magistrates and inter position and Laura, as a registered nurse, has been
- 30:48going to county commissioners and appealing to them to stop the MR and A vaccines
- 30:52due to the harm they've been causing. She had no legal background, but
- 30:56she's achieved amazing success just through shit determinations. I really would encourage you to
- 31:00listen to that because she is actually going out there and doing it and inspiration
- 31:03absolutely and Cheryl Grainger talking on them. Sorry, taking on the MHRA and
- 31:10asking are they harmon nibblers? That is up on the website as well.
- 31:14If you haven't seen that, please do have a look at it. And
- 31:17then tomorrow an interview with John down Yes, I think that's how we pronounced
- 31:22it. Talking about death statistics in the United States absolutely essential. Everybody watches
- 31:30this if you possibly can. He has managed to get access to millions of
- 31:34death records and looking for patterns there and discovering patterns there, particularly since the
- 31:41vaccine rollouts. We do join one pm for that tomorrow. Another reminder did
- 31:47for your Dary Saturday, the nineteenth of October twenty twenty four Bristol UK column
- 31:52really live come along to that but keep that did free announcements to be made
- 31:56in the next day or two and where does that died Suddenly? Yeah,
- 32:01there's going to be an exhibition and art exhibition in November this year in London.
- 32:07Exact location to be decided. But this is to do with the unexplained
- 32:13deaths and the massive rise in excess death. It's being coordinated by an artist,
- 32:17a very good portraitist, Jake Fern. So if you'd like to know
- 32:21more about it, you'd like to help or you have stories with relate to
- 32:27people who have died suddenly in an excess death, please get in touch with
- 32:30Jake mistyped his email. Sorry it's Jake h Fern, so disregard the one
- 32:37that's written in big black letters. It's Jake H Fern. I will make
- 32:40sure that's redone for the next thing. Jake apologies, but you will get
- 32:44him if you go to his website, which is Jakefern dot co dot uk.
- 32:49Jake Jak E Fern f e r n dot co dot uk. So
- 32:52that's going to be a terrific exhibition in November, but he would like help
- 32:55with it and for people to come forward with their stories, so please get
- 32:59in touch with him. So the email addresses Jake h fornat Jahud are called
- 33:02at uk okay. So we were talking about energy with respect to the king
- 33:07speech. What's the litist. Well, the latest is having talked about energy
- 33:13and climate and defense last week, the boundary has been pushed yet further and
- 33:20the Royal College of Physicians, believe it or not, have just released a
- 33:22document called the Green Physician Toolkit, which looks like it's designed for children,
- 33:29and certainly the intent is that patients of GPS are to be treated like children.
- 33:34So here we see that understanding the link between climate change and health in
- 33:37the UK is the first bit. So you have to you have to understand
- 33:42how these links between health and climate affect themselves, and these are being broken
- 33:46down into four easy steps with little pictures. So the boning of fossil fuels
- 33:51increases land temperatures and air temperatures, causes extreme weather events, melts sea ice
- 33:55and glaciers, warms the oceans and creates air but it's already impacting health.
- 34:02And when we consider Jake's forthcoming exhibition have Died suddenly interesting to note. Therefore,
- 34:07there are now three and seventy one excess deaths attributable to climate change somehow
- 34:14in the summer of twenty twenty two, and thousands of them annually. Of
- 34:19course, this goes back to the mental health that Mike was talking about in
- 34:22the King's speech to precton anxiety and PTSD amongst the population is exposed to flooding,
- 34:25which of course Debbie has spoken about a great length on a regular basis,
- 34:30and then we see the groups that are more vulnerable. So this suggestion
- 34:32are vulnerable groups that need to be helped. And we see there if you
- 34:36can't see the screen, there's a picture of a man with brown skin and
- 34:42wearing a face mask for reasons that are not entirely clear, but presumably to
- 34:45do with air pollution. But these vulnerable groups are older people, infants and
- 34:50children, people with pre existing conditions, coastal and low lying populations, people
- 34:54experiencing homelessness, and it's going to get worse. That's what the the Health
- 35:00Security Agency project. They say the heat related death could increase by five hundred
- 35:04and eighty percent. Now that is a figure plucked from thin air. An
- 35:08increase in cold related death sixty one increase sixty one percent, increase people at
- 35:15flooding risk by twenty fifty. Anyway, you get the idea. This is
- 35:17very much aimed at well physicians in the first instance, probably for the public
- 35:22to be viewed, and the whole thing has been infantilized to a staggering degree.
- 35:27Anyway, gps are given guidance on how to actually talk to the people.
- 35:30But the way this is termed is that they are described as being uniquely
- 35:35placed as a trusted member of the community. Now, I think after what
- 35:38happened in twenty twenty and beyond. I would say that is a waning reputation.
- 35:43But nonetheless, those that do still go to GPS will be helped within
- 35:46their communities to understand how climate change will affect their health and how to protect
- 35:50themselves. It's an absolute abuse of trust. They should now be asked to
- 35:53talk about something that they are not trained in, and that indeed the science
- 35:58has certainly not settled on anyway. Now very much involved in climate change,
- 36:02and they have some key points to talk to patients about. They say,
- 36:07keep the message simple and repeat it often. Well, we've heard and seen
- 36:10the effects of that before in twenty twenty and beyond. Focus on human health,
- 36:15understand the local context, don't use jargon, well okay. Empower people
- 36:22to make good decisions about their health. It's looking increasingly like one such decision
- 36:27might not be to go to the GP in the first place. Anyway,
- 36:31talk about the health benefits of climate action. So this is sort of in
- 36:35effect galvanizing people into a state of political activism, which is an extraordinary expansion
- 36:42of the remiss of a health practitioner to tell stories to connect with people,
- 36:46and I think this is absolutely critical to it. They don't mean it in
- 36:50this way, but I would say that telling stories is absolutely what this is
- 36:52all about. Avoid polarizing languages, talk about climate change during extreme weather events.
- 36:57So there we go conflate things that may otherwise not have any bearing on
- 37:00one another. And the biggest one at the last point involved don't debate the
- 37:07science. And there's quite a good reason for that, and just to recap,
- 37:09because the science effectively says that there is a belief that the approximately three
- 37:16percent of emissions of overall carbon dioxide emissions over the course of a year that
- 37:22are created by man's activities included of course, farming and all the other things
- 37:28that are being demonized at the minute, that that three percent of the overall
- 37:30carbon dioxide emitted is going to affect the total amount of cobon dioxide, which
- 37:37is zero point not four percent of the overall atmosphere, and it will change
- 37:45the climate, it will change the weather, it will heat up the world.
- 37:49That is the science upon which this is based. So it's very important
- 37:52to consider that. Whenever anyone says, don't debate the science, I would
- 37:58say, it's perfect clear why not. Anyway, We'll go and have a
- 37:59look at Gavino, the sort of Bill Gates spin off vaccine well business,
- 38:06I suppose want for a better word, And they say no vaccine climate change.
- 38:08When this used to be a joke in twenty twenty that was going to
- 38:10be a vaccine climate change, they are actually now sort of talking about it.
- 38:14There is no vaccine for climate change and never will be. However,
- 38:17there are multiple readily available health interventions and prevention measures. So as I say,
- 38:22we've now got this association not just between defense and climate, but also
- 38:30very much between medicine and climate, and there seems to be no end to
- 38:34it. We've talked also in the King speech about the push towards net zero
- 38:37and how the whole planning space is to be reshaped around this belief that climate
- 38:43and energy is completely into link. Climate and defense is interlinked, Climate and
- 38:45medicine is interlinked. And so I just go to a small announcement made yesterday
- 38:52about this Sunnaca energy farm which has been going to take up two five hundred
- 38:57acres in East Anglia, and really just the amazing disregard for democracy here we
- 39:02see that local communities are continuing to be given the opportunity of being involved.
- 39:08They were able to participate in this examination and full consideration to all local views
- 39:15was given. So just to wind up, we see here from the Nuclear
- 39:20Energy Initiative, I think, sorry, I can't remember what any it exactly
- 39:23stands for, but they talk about the comparison between these technologies. Wind farms
- 39:29require up to three hundred and sixty times as much land area to produce the
- 39:31same amount of energy, and PV solar requires up to seventy five times the
- 39:36land area. So that's where we sit with it, and it is quite
- 39:39extraordinary the amount the labor government. We're not joking when they were talking about
- 39:44change. We'll get into the detail of all the planning that's going to be
- 39:47completely upended over the next few weeks. Okay, let's quick change of topic.
- 39:53I want to bring this article from the BBC on screen. The headline
- 39:58ism I five does not have to confirm abusive man was a spy and well,
- 40:04what are they saying here? This is basically a domestic violence case.
- 40:07So let's bring this up to the Security Service can continue to neither confirm nor
- 40:12deny whether a man who attacked his girlfriend with a machete was an MI five
- 40:15agent. Judges have ruled in twenty twenty two BBC News investigation established through multiple
- 40:21sources of the man known as X for legal reasons was an MI five agent.
- 40:25He uses MI five roar oll to coercively controlled Beth not her real name,
- 40:30his ex partner. He was physically and sexually abusive and was filmed threatening
- 40:34to kill her and then attacking her with a machete. Now she is asking
- 40:38for the fact of whether he is an MI five agent to be brought to
- 40:44the trial whenever there is a trial in a few months time. But this
- 40:49is not clear that it's going to be permitted that they certainly MI five is
- 40:52refusing to confirm or deny, so she's bringing the case to the Investigatory pars
- 40:57Tribunal call themselves an independent judicial body, they say, we provide the right
- 41:02of redress to anyone who believes they've been a victim of unlawful action by a
- 41:07public authority using covert intelligence techniques or sorry, investigative techniques. We also consider
- 41:12complaints about conduct by or on behalf of the UK Intelligence Services, Security Service,
- 41:17the Secret Intelligence Service and GCHQ and so on. Now, of course
- 41:22their hearings can buy our all non non public. They can either be completely
- 41:27secret, in which case no evidence is shared with the complainant, or they
- 41:31can be just held in private, in which case evidence is shared with the
- 41:36complainant. But the reason this particular topic was of interest to me was just
- 41:42to remind everybody again of this piece of legislation. It was a bill,
- 41:45it's not an act. It is law now Covert Human Intelligence Sources Brackets,
- 41:51Criminal Conduct Act, And just remind everybody of the range of organizations who are
- 41:57entitled to authorize criminal behavior by their so called agents, so police forces,
- 42:02National Crime Agency, Serious Fraud Office, Intelligence agencies, her Majesty's Forces,
- 42:07her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, Department of Health, the Home Office, Ministry
- 42:12of Justice, Competition and Markets Authority, the Environment Agency, the Financial Conduct
- 42:16Authority, the Food Standards Agency, and the Gambling Commission. And so the
- 42:22key point that I'd like to make here is, you know, is there
- 42:25no public interest in this case or any other case in the public known knowing
- 42:30whether criminality was being committed by a member of the Security Services five of whomever.
- 42:37And my understanding is that in this case I five has even removed evidence
- 42:43from the police evidence stores. So this becomes really tricky situation. And you
- 42:51know, if they continue in maintaining this idea of non disclosure of whether somebody
- 42:58is a member of a security service or or not, particularly in this case,
- 43:01which is effectively a domestic violence case, it's not related to any intelligence
- 43:06gathering work. If they're prepared to do that in this case, then what
- 43:09else are they covering up? And I think it's extremely dangerous when we're in
- 43:13the situation that we have no oversight. Now we can talk in extra Charles,
- 43:17because obviously you have been in the police about whether or how much of
- 43:23a problem it is for agencies if they can't behave in certain ways if they're
- 43:28evidence gathering. But well, we'll keep that for extra that conversation. But
- 43:34let's move on to this. Then. Another issue that the labor government is
- 43:38facing is overcrowding in our prisons, and of course they're already announced that they're
- 43:44going to start releasing prisoners they have. Yeah, so you know, here
- 43:47we go again, because this course is a topic that's been effectively in the
- 43:52new since the Victorian era, where the number of people that are effectively consigned
- 43:57to internment is increase. But here we go. The comment from Charlie Taylor,
- 44:01the Inspector Chief Inspector of Prisons, just last week, and of course
- 44:07it's concern really with the political capital that's attempting to be scored on this basis.
- 44:12But within his comment he has effectively said that it was at a point
- 44:16where no decision could really be taken without any risk, which I suppose is
- 44:20fairly obvious part of decision making process. But this notion of risk and people
- 44:25being described as risky offenders, so the idea is that people would be released
- 44:30at the point of having served forty percent of their sentence. Exactly how they
- 44:34get that seems a little bit of nuance in that, but of course the
- 44:37effect that is to be borne by the Prison Service and probation will be the
- 44:42massive increase in their workload as they try and determine how this is to be
- 44:45affected and then actually do it. Taylor then says it's to break the cycle
- 44:51of reoffending and to protect the public from future harm. Of course, all
- 44:54perhaps noble goals, but nonetheless they do deserve further investoration and scrutiny, And
- 45:00just prior to this, on the eighth of July, the House Commons Library
- 45:05produced statistics on the prison population. But I think the first thing I'd like
- 45:08to draw your attention to is how wildly inaccurate the government are when it comes
- 45:13to forecasting this sort of thing. So it might not be particularly clear,
- 45:16but there's a dark green line that shows the actual prison population, how it's
- 45:22fluctuated over the last ten years or so, and then a load of gray
- 45:24lines which are there forecasts which possibly by general trend going roughly the right direction,
- 45:30but they are still quite significantly far off what the total has turned out
- 45:36to be. Is this started line or the distance that they're intending to put
- 45:39in prison well exactly. You see, this is a very good question,
- 45:43and it comes back to the cost of what you know to talking about the
- 45:47Victorian period of massive prison building projects and whether or not that cost can be
- 45:52justified. But then the other thing to look at is the offenses by prison
- 45:55group, because I think it's very easy to fall into the trap of thinking
- 45:59that reason prisons are full is because more people are doing more criminal things.
- 46:04Now, that's not necessarily and probably more likely to be not the case.
- 46:07It is, however, an indicator of how police and courts are behaving with
- 46:13regard to particular demographics or particular offenses. So we see here as a good
- 46:19example, the number of youths, the number of juveniles fifteen to seventeen who
- 46:22are in prison by percentage for violence against person's criminal offenses concerning violence, which
- 46:29is well over fifty percent, an enormous percentage of them. Of course,
- 46:32for adults, the big ones are violence against person's sexual offenses and drugs.
- 46:37But of course it's introducing this notion of risk if they are back on the
- 46:42street. Now I use this slide a few months ago and we talked about
- 46:45reoffending rates. This is out of date data, as it often is with
- 46:50government, but nonetheless we see that there's a reoffending over reoffending rate of thirty
- 46:54three percent, but for those having a sentence of less than twelve months,
- 46:58a reoffending rate of fifty six percent, which is absolutely staggering, and we
- 47:02have to question the whole sort of area of criminal justice. But we have
- 47:07from the Institute of Government a performance tracker and again a graph know, statistics
- 47:13sort of being used to demonstrate that something went right and then wrong again.
- 47:16So the change of methodology in terms of violence within prisons, and of course
- 47:22then we see a sharp drop in twenty twenty, so they ascribe this well.
- 47:28First of all, some of the issues in prisons are that prisons are
- 47:31in many cases kept in cells for up to twenty two hours per day.
- 47:35Female self harm has gone up by nearly one hundred and twenty percent since twenty
- 47:37nineteen. Half the prison staff at the moment reckon to have less than five
- 47:42years experience, And the sharp increase in prisoners, which again could have been
- 47:46absolutely determined at the time, was due to the backlog from the lockdown periods
- 47:51the internment. In twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, magistrates have had their
- 47:54maximum sentencing increased to twelve months and then reduced back down to six months,
- 48:00and staff believe this is an interesting one. Staff believe that violence is reduced
- 48:04by confinement so effectively the decrease that was seen in the lockdowns has been used
- 48:12as a way in which to suggest that actually this is a sensible thing to
- 48:15do with prisoners because it reduces the workload of the prison service and it contains
- 48:19violence within the prisons. Now, I want to also make mention in the
- 48:23king speech of the push of the expression of anti extremist rhetoric and the work
- 48:31in particular that Lord Walney has been doing on this, and the suggestion that
- 48:35there are many many people who are effectively worthy of prison time, sam Milia
- 48:40being one that we've highlighted. But now what what are they going to do?
- 48:44And the reason I talk about this is because we have a defense review
- 48:46going on, we're talking about conscription, we're talking about national service. What
- 48:50is going to happen to people that need prison spaces or we're told need prison
- 48:53spaces but they don't have prison spaces for very good question. Okay, thank
- 48:59you for that, Charles Vanessa. Let's come back to you then and give
- 49:01us an update on the situation in Gaza. Yes, I just wanted to
- 49:07point out that in the last hour the headline at CNN as Secret Service ramped
- 49:12up security after receiving intel of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump. So I think
- 49:17that's quite a good follow on from my Trump sector. So I want to
- 49:24point out that the genocide in Gaza is ongoing. In fact, it's increasing,
- 49:31if that's even possible, with some fairly horrendous massacres and events this week.
- 49:37So clearly Natania, who feels no threat either from biolin or from the
- 49:43potential of an incoming Trump administration. This is a report in Almadin three hundred
- 49:50and twenty cases of severe burns in forty eight hours in Gaza. Israel as
- 49:54using prohibited weapons against Palestinians in Gaza, resulting in up to three twenty cases
- 50:00of severe burns. Gaza's government media office said, of course, we know
- 50:06that Israel has historically used white phosphorus. White phosphorus if it comes into contact
- 50:13with human flash, that literally melts the flash away from the bone and it's
- 50:20very difficult to stop the spread of that burn. So martyred and injured Palestinians
- 50:29were brought into hospitals and Gaza with severe burns due to Israel's usage of internationally
- 50:35prohibited weapons. In a statement on Monday, these are unconventional and internationally prohibited
- 50:42weapons banned for use against humans and mostly American made, adding that the bodies
- 50:46were severely burned due to the Israeli occupations armies use of these weapons. And
- 50:53then I just wanted to show a very quick video. There have actually been
- 50:58two massacres in Mawaii Camp near Hanunas, which was designated a safe zone by
- 51:07Israel for the refugees from the north and other areas of Gaza to go to
- 51:12and to set up their camp cities. I'm not going to show anything particularly
- 51:16distressing regarding dead bodies, but this is the actual capture of the first Israeli
- 51:24strike on Mahwasi Camp, which is crowded with thousands of tens of thousands of
- 51:31refugees. Let's roll this from what I back. I'm in fumis Has.
- 51:42I'm a lucky. I'm a lucky And it's been pointed out that the two
- 52:21thousand pound Mk eighty four was used in this attack, and at least five
- 52:27missiles were used against as I said, heavily populated civilian encampment. If we
- 52:34look at what the Mk eighty four does, it can effectively. It's usually
- 52:39used against heavy machinery, against armored vehicles, against tanks, and against infrastructure.
- 52:47It can create massive craters, and it can basically kill civilians within a
- 52:57range of over three hundred meters from the impact point. More than one hundred
- 53:02were killed in this attack and hundreds more were injured. Hospitals overwhelmed trying to
- 53:08deal with them. Since October the seventh, one hundred and sixty journalists have
- 53:15now been killed by Israel and of course their families have been targeted during the
- 53:21various assassination attempts. And this is a story that I really wanted highlight to
- 53:28demonstrate the inhumanity of the Israeli forces. In Gaza, a Palestinian with down
- 53:36syndrome was left to die by Israeli soldiers. This is a report in Middle
- 53:40East Eye. After combat dog attack, Muhammad, who was like a one
- 53:45year old, was separated from his family by the soldiers and then the dog
- 53:51was basically allowed to maul him and he was desperately trying to defend himself.
- 53:58If we look at the rest or another section of the report, soldiers expelled
- 54:06everyone from the house except for Muhammed, who was taken to a separate room.
- 54:09Unable to see him. His mother could only guess his fate from the
- 54:14screams as she was forced to leave the area at gunpoint. Seven agonizing days
- 54:20of waiting passed before Israeli troops finally withdrew from Shujaya. The family rushed back
- 54:24to the apartment on Wednesday, they found Mohammed's decomposing body. People can read
- 54:31that for themselves, but basically the dog was allowed to maul him to death,
- 54:37a defenseless guy with down syndrome. Yes, okay, thank you Vanessa
- 54:45for that. No, let's end today with this story. With this story.
- 54:52This is the propaganda and focused website Pierce Robson's rep website, one website
- 54:58that he contributes to at least the tragedy of Julia Scripple. This is an
- 55:01article by Tim Norman. Tim Norman has written an article we've published on the
- 55:07scrip Al case for anybody that doesn't remember, of course, Sergei and Yulia
- 55:12Scripple allegedly poisoned by the Russian government with Novichok, so called nerve agent in
- 55:19Salisbury. This was a massive story at the time, So if you just
- 55:22put that back on screen for a second and look at to have a looked
- 55:25at some of the text here it says the effect of Novichok poisoning is an
- 55:30important part of the tragedy of Julia Scrippl, but not because it killed her
- 55:34or her father, because of course didn't. Rather, Tim says, admit
- 55:37them both vanish. Like Julia. Sergei disappeared after his alleged exposure to and
- 55:43recovery from this deadly nerve agent, and like Julia, no one can ask
- 55:47serge about what happened to them. Now. It is a fact that the
- 55:52last time we mentioned the scrip Al case on UK column news, one or
- 55:57two people that hadn't been watching UK Column at the time were a little surprised,
- 56:01a little taken aback that we were suggesting that this was a fake event.
- 56:06So if we put that back on screen, we'll look at the next
- 56:08next paragraph here, because this sort of sums up the situation. The military
- 56:13grid poison, this is novichok, did not seem to have an effect on
- 56:16either of them, that's Julia or Sergei for several hours. This is following
- 56:22exposure. Sergei drove them into the city center where they fed ducks on the
- 56:25River Avon. There they passed quite close by the two They were passed quite
- 56:30close by the two Russian secret agents who poisoned them, as there would be
- 56:34assassins that apparently decided to take the opportunity to do a bit of window shopping
- 56:37in Salisbury after carrying out their orders, rather than leaving the city immediately,
- 56:43Julia and Sergei then went to a restaurant and a pub. It was after
- 56:46this while they were walking in a shopping area of Salisbury called the Maltings.
- 56:50That the nerviage, and that it supposedly been separately exposed to a few hours
- 56:53earlier, dramatically entered thet bloodstreams. It apparently had time to sit on a
- 56:59public bench in the Maltings as they were almost simultaneously overcome together by its powerful
- 57:05effects. And the article goes on to say, fortunately for them, the
- 57:07British Army's most senior nurse happened to be passing by with her daughter and they
- 57:13gave Julia and Sergei first aid. The coincidences here are off the charts.
- 57:19The ten goes on to say. This goes on to talk about Don Sturgis,
- 57:22who of course died a couple of days later, and also allegedly poisoned
- 57:29by Novichok, having picked up having her boyfriend having picked up a perfume bottle
- 57:37apparently and her thinking that it was perfume. So the article says, the
- 57:39Sturgist family had been fighting ever since for an inquest to find out how the
- 57:44events in Saulisbury led to Down's death, and after Dawn's daughter won legal case
- 57:49against the coroner's initial judgment, the UK government converted the inquest into a public
- 57:53inquiry so it could hide evidence from them in the name of national security.
- 57:58And this is all well, Reverend, so do click on the links that
- 58:00are in this article. The article because on to say. The inquiry is
- 58:05due to begin in October twenty twenty four, but atn initial hearing on the
- 58:08twenty first of June, Jack Holborn, a barrister appointed by UK government to
- 58:13represent Julia and Sergei in the legal process, stated that Julia and Sergei feared
- 58:19for their safety if they give evidence to the inquiry because no measures, no
- 58:22security measures are perfect and giving testimony would cause them distress. So they are
- 58:29apparently not going to be taking part in this inquest. And it is an
- 58:34inquest, and we know from previous in quests that any suggestion that the government
- 58:39would hide evidence from them is absolutely valid. Many many questions continued needing to
- 58:46be asked of this incident and the accusation that Russia had carried out a chemical
- 58:52weapons attack on British soil. As I say, Tim Norman wrote this article,
- 58:58which is on the UK Column website some time ago in twenty twenty two,
- 59:01the day of the script out. If you haven't seen this yet,
- 59:05please go and read it and share it. Now. The point of this
- 59:07article is that it is a timeline of all the mainstream It's basically showing a
- 59:12timeline of all the mainstream coverage of the script all kids, from the beginning
- 59:16to the end. And what comes across very starkly from this timeline is how
- 59:22ridiculous the official narrative of the whole thing is. And so we do recommend
- 59:29that you have a look at that. And another article on the UK column
- 59:30website that we want to point out is sorry, it's not the same one,
- 59:36so apologies for that. Let's see do we have no, we don't.
- 59:38So the other one is Alex Thompson's article on Russi and if you just
- 59:46search on the UK Colinn website for a Rousi web you will see the article
- 59:51and do have a look at that one as well. But the question we
- 59:53want to end with, as we always do when we talk about the script
- 59:55ales, is where are they? They disappeared after this, They've never been
- 59:59heard at all for seeing again, and some people speculating they're in New Zealand,
- 1:00:04but nobody really knows for sure, and certainly they don't seem to be
- 1:00:08making an appearance for the forthcoming in quest. Many many questions still to be
- 1:00:14asked on this and answered, but we will have to leave it there for
- 1:00:17today. I'm going to say thank you very much to Charles and Vanessa for
- 1:00:21joining us. Plenty to talk about in Extra. If you're not a UK
- 1:00:24Call member, please consider joining and joining them there for us for Extra and
- 1:00:30we will see everybody that is on Extra in a couple of minutes, but
- 1:00:34otherwise see it Friday as usual one pm. Bye bye,