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Hawkeye talk with David Eickholt, Arch Madness odds & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, Miller and Condon is Trent and I have
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Let's talk some Hawk, shall we? David Eichel joins us,
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hawkeyeinsider.com, 24/7 sports. David, Trent and Ken, thanks for
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coming on. How are you?
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We're hanging in there, man. I can't wait for daytime
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basketball for conference tournament season.
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It's one of my favorite times of the year.
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But you know, life's good. We're we're good, man.
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This is, like I said, it's one of my favorite times of the
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year. And you know, it looks like both
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teams are going to be a part of it, but obviously 2 aren't very
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different trajectories at the moment.
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Yeah, that's for sure. Well, let's start ladies.
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Let's go ladies first. Friend and I were commenting
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early in the program. You know, they've had a nice
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year, but then the the rankings came out the top 16, one through
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16 and there sits I would number six that snuck up on me.
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David, I called. When you think back to the, you
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know, that kind of losing streak, the kind of losing
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streak, the losing streak that they had those tough times, but
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they've had some really good wins as of late.
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But I were right there at #6 and that snuck up on me.
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I mean, I think you did need to I thought they'd be a three
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seed, you know, maybe more in that 9 to 12 sort of area.
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But you know, you really can't argue with that.
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I think Iowa for the most part, outside that three-game losing
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skid, they've they've exceeded any expectation.
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I thought their ceiling was a little bit higher than maybe
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last year's team. But look, Ava Haydn has a
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legitimate case to be an all American with what she's done on
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both ends of the floor. You look at even the win
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yesterday. Obviously no Hannah sulky
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Wisconsin can't beat Iowa in anything Let me throw this stat
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at you guys. The freshman on Iowa women's
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basketball team have not been alive to witness Wisconsin women
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beat Iowa in basketball come. On nuts?
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That's crazy. Iowa has beaten them 32 times in
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a row. The last time they lost was in
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2006. But you just look at 24 regular
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season wins, second seed in the Big 10 tournament, looks like
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they're almost locked to be a two seed.
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And by the way, everybody on that team besides a few people
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are young. I mean, the, the, the future is
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so bright for for Iowa and what Jan's done, quite frankly, she's
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not going to get Big 10 coach of the year.
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She's not going to get national coach of the year.
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She probably deserves to gain a little bit more love nationally
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for what she's accomplished. And doing it, losing a senior
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starter and McCabe going down, what they've dealt with
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throughout the course of this year.
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Emily Rodriguez was supposed to be a big part of this team.
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She shut it down after that trip down to Florida.
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And yet here they are with a potential number two seed in the
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NCAA Tournament, 2 seed in the Big 10.
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One player I want to talk with you a little bit, David, is
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Taylor Shremlow. And we've seen she's always had
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the flair, right? She likes to make that that fun
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pass behind the back. She's always had that going back
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to last year as a freshman. But it also a lot of times led
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to turnovers. And you go back to early in the
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season, you know, she had a stretch, 4 turnovers in the
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opener, had five turnovers in a game against Western Illinois, 3
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turnovers against Miami. That has cut down along with her
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assist. Is it just her getting more
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comfortable understanding her role or maybe not trying to do
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the crazy play every single time?
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I mean, maybe not trying to do the crazy play every single
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time, but you have to marvel at the the leap that she's made.
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And let me put in perspective for you.
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Over the last two games, she has 20 assists to two turnovers and
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she's played about 63 minutes of basketball.
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You take you sign up for every coach in the country signs up
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for that. I think what jams done with the
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guards is really interesting because it seems like they're
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playing chit chat right more off the ball than they were earlier
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the year. And you know, I think Taylor
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Stremlo is capable of playing that one.
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I think she's capable of playing the off guard.
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But I also just think it's a total confidence booster with
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Stremlo. Do you remember last year, like
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the last 10 games of the year, Stremlo would be completely left
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wide open and she would kind of sit there with the deer in the
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headlights, hesitate. Can I shoot it?
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Am I going to get pulled? And that's not an indictment on
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on Jan. But she just looks scared and
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indecisive. Guys, she's pulling up from the
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top of the key with a hand in her face and she's making it.
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She's driving to the rim. She's shooting 84% around the
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rim this season. She's not missing those shots.
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She's pulling up from the mid range game.
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She just looks like a complete basketball player and once she
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gets going, doesn't seem like the entire their teams just sort
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of raring to go. But I also would say this, the
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confidence her teammates and the coaching staff have had in her
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has long since been since she got into in the starting lineup.
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She's a team captain, she's voted team captain over the
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course of the summer. She's started, she's come off
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the bench and now she sells into this role and and now you're
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looking at her saying, you know what, that's a guard and a
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player that can go win you games when it matters most coming down
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the stretch. I want to ask you about Addie
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Deal because we've certainly seen her have a kind of really
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couple of good games there in that stretch.
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Late January, I believe it was, she had 20 points in one game.
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I think she had 220 point games or something right around there.
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So what's what's going on here? Is this a confidence thing for
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her? I'm I'm guessing she really
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didn't struggle, hasn't really struggled at any level in her
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life, quite frankly, until she got here and when and we've seen
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that she's been able to fill it up, but it's been a long time
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since she's been able to do that.
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What's going on with Addy deal? Is this a confidence thing,
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David? I think it could be a little bit
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of a confidence thing, but I also believe this.
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She plays better when she lets the game come to her.
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There's been a few times this year where I think she speeds it
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up. She kind of forces a bad shot
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and I do think it kind of translates over.
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But I do think over the last couple of games she strung
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together a couple good plays. I thought she passed the ball
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very well yesterday and with three assists, she hit that big
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three pointer when Iowa went on that massive run in the third
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quarter to ultimately put that game out of reach.
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I just think that obviously the the the 20 point game, the 18
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point game, they weren't flukes. Addie deal is going to be that
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good. I expect her to take a big leap
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next season. Not anywhere near what Ava did,
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but Addie is going to average double figures if she, you know,
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if she returns to Iowa, which I believe she will.
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But that's we have to kind of precursed that given the
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circumstances of college basketball.
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I think it's a little bit of that.
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I also think it's just understanding the physicality of
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the women's game. I do think a lot more people are
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face guarding her. They're kind of hand checking
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her a little bit. And I do think it's kind of
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working through the frustration, working through the ebbs and
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flows. And I think once she gets more
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steps from her and she kind of gets that swagger back maybe
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over the course of the summer, I think she's going to be fine.
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But I'm with you. I do think it's partially a
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confidence thing. One more youngster I want to get
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you your thoughts on and that's the future of Journey Houston,
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who has started two different times when Stalky's been out.
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What do you see her going forward?
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She's so good around the rim and elite level rebounder for being
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under size. She has guard skills.
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She's 5 foot 11. She's knocked down a couple of
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three pointers this year. When you kind of look into your
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crystal ball, you look to the future, say upperclassman
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Journey Houston, What do you see?
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What type of player is she? You know, I do think it was very
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smart of Jan and her to buy into that backup for role this season
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because Jan did say she kind of had to convince her because like
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you said, she's a little bit of undersized.
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I really like her at the three. I think she's shown that she is
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capable of hitting those outside shots.
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She's a gritty rebounder. Her physicality inside is very
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impressive. I think she's a good defender.
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But the most important compliment I could give her
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guys, she's just a smart player. She understands her role.
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She plays like a junior or senior.
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She doesn't seem to get rattled. She really pulls up and executes
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those mid range elbow jumpers. I just think they have a
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complete basketball player. Yes, she could do the high low
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action, maybe a little bit more of the high than the actual low.
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But journey, I think you could start anywhere at the two to
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four spot. And I do think the big question
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next season is, well, when you get McKenna Volitsko, you're
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you're going to have a hard time convincing me that she can't run
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at the starting four or the three next season.
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So I think journey and her are going to go back and forth.
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But I love journey being the sixth woman off the bench.
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I think she's that good. I think by the end of her
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career, she could be a, you know, an all big 10 caliber
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player. She's just too smart and too
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meticulous about the way she goes about things.
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See, that's been probably the second biggest surprise this
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season. I still think Chitchat Right is
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probably a little bit more of a head, but you have to give
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credit to Journey for really buying in and executing what
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Chance expected out of her. Let's move to the men's game.
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They fall to Penn State by a bucket on the road.
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They went in went into the game as a an overwhelming favorite in
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that game might might take away David.
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It was because we've been, you know, we've been waiting for
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Cooper Koch, right to, to put it together offensively to have one
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of those games. And you knew he could do it
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because you've seen him do it leading up to this point.
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Not only is he making his threes, but that underhanded
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left-handed lay up off the glass was just a thing of beauty.
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I thought we were going to reconvene here on Monday, be
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talking about the Cooper Koch game.
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Sadly, that wasn't the case as they fall to Penn State.
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He was really good, but the story was Penn State beating
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Iowa. I mean, Iowa is who they are at
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this point, right? I think we all kind of made-up
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our minds. I think they play up or down to
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the level of competition at times.
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And I think this group's really struggled against, you know,
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putting their foot on the throat of inferior teams.
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I mean, they lost at Minnesota. They shouldn't have lost that
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game. They lost to a horrible Maryland
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team. Then they go on the road and
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lose the worst team, the Big 10. There's just some woes.
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And Ben McCollum, again, I've complimented his transparency
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with the media and with the fan base.
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He said we are. We are.
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We struggle against teams that that they shouldn't be
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struggling against. Obviously, being Cooper Koch
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going this big, I thought Bennett was OK in that game, but
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ultimately I was being plagued by the same kind of offense,
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guards with an explosive first step and Iowa not having the
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quickness athletically to keep them on the perimeter.
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But Iowa doesn't have a true rim protector inside.
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They got into the paint time and time and time again.
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And with Penn State, what a couple of those three guys,
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weren't you just sitting there being like, oh, Iowa's not
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winning this game. This was going to be one of
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those games. And again, I think you have to
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get a credit to Penn State's quickness athletically.
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And ultimately, they made the shots and Iowa made, he thinks,
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a lot tougher than they were supposed to on themselves.
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Really did. Alvaro Fugaris had a great game
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against Ohio State and then he had what, back-to-back misses, A
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couple of turnovers in the game, missed a front end of a one and
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one, a terrible defensive decision.
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How do you get consistency out of a guy like that?
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It's not a skill thing that there's something going on
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upstairs. How can you coach into Alvaro
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Fugaris? How to smooth out those rough
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edges? I mean, I'm going to go back to
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when I asked Ben about him after his 20 point outing, he said
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he's just learning. He's finally learning how to
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win. He's being a winning player.
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He's eliminating those losing plays.
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He's doing the small things that he's really never had to do.
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He's thinking team first, he's executing, he's practicing
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harder, all these sort of things.
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And you know, I hate to be the Debbie Downer of this year.
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That's going to pay dividends the next season.
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I don't know if you're going to be able to get consistency out
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of them, but for the remainder of this season.
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But I'll go back to another guy who I thought was very good
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under frame McCaffrey and that one year to year one leap till
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year 2. How about Philip for Bracha?
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He ended up being a third team All Big 10 guy and I posted a
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lot of good things. I think Alvaro can take a
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similar leap next season if he comes back to Iowa with Ben
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McCollum because as you said, it's not a skill issue, it's not
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a talent issue. It's about learning how to win.
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And I still think right now he's learning how to win.
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And one other take away I want to mention really quick, not
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about Alvaro, but about the game.
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I thought it was one of the few, few times that will happen where
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Ben McCollum got out coach. I just don't think he put
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together a great second-half game plan, substitution wise or
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anything else like that. Again, I might not say this for
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the rest of the year. I might say not say all next
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season. I thought it was the first time
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Ben McCollum did not look like Ben McCollum.
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I think that's absolutely fair. I do.
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We talked about that earlier. Just tossing the fact that he
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hadn't played. Then boom, he's getting 15
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minutes. Howard's not getting, I don't
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think enough minutes. Take Sage likewise, but it was
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what it was. So when when you think back on
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this, what it what is Iowa do? How do they, I guess flush it
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and look forward to maybe one of the best, maybe the best team in
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the country in Michigan. What are you, what are you
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looking for this week out of this Iowa group as they try and
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regroup before Michigan comes to town?
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I mean, you have to flush it because if not, you're going to
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get absolutely trounced again. I know Michigan lost to Duke.
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Michigan has been my number one team all year long.
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I think they're beyond complete. Obviously losing their backup
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point guard, probably the best backup point guard in the
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country, is a big loss for them. But this is not a good match up
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for Iowa. And if you're Iowan, you can't
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get up this week for two top ten teams.
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Ben McCollum, be the first one to tell you you probably
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shouldn't be playing high level basketball.
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You have to flush it. You have to learn from it.
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And Iowa needs a gritty defensive effort to stop the
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size and skill combination of Michigan.
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Because regardless of the disappointing losses, guys, and
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I know people want to overreact, Iowa is going to the NCAA
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tournament. There's still a lot to play for.
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Like the bubble is garbage this season.
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They're arguing for a 15 and 14 Auburn team to be in.
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I was going to make the tournament.
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You just settle down, take a step off the ledge.
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And I still think, given everything Ben McCollum and his
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team, I still think it's been a successful Year 1 despite the
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lows being, I would say, pretty low.
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And we're still talking about, you know, we're get away from
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that 8-9 game. Well, maybe they done it.
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They have a thing. Yeah, now they'll go to A10 seat
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and maybe that'll give up a better chance of pulling that
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out set in the round of 32 or you never know, we've seen
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fifteens knock off. Can they fall to an 11 and play
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in the playing game or is that asking too much because.
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I like, well, you don't have to play the play again either.
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There's two. That's two spots.
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Can they fall that far? I mean, if they get embarrassed
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by Michigan, get embarrassed by Nebraska early out in the Big
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10. Or Oregon.
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Who would they play coming out third of the ninth seed?
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They play one of those two teams, the.
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Baby, I don't know much rather play a six then take him a
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chances against a three, right? But you just don't want to fall
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to Dayton. The only way I think it's
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possible is if remember if they play, if Iowa plays Oregon,
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Oregon still might be a quad 3 game at that time and I think
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they're getting Nate Biddleback. Yeah, Biddle's been back.
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I don't think. You want to play Oregon?
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With no, he's a health player. He's a hell of a player.
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One more from me, David and over to the football side of things.
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I know you guys always have recruiting news over at
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hawkeyeinsider.com. What to get your thoughts on?
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Is it now Root the the quarterback from over in
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Illinois? I know the other guys have him
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highly regarded. You guys a little bit lower as a
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whole at 24/7, but what can you tell us about the recruitment of
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the QB, who many consider one of the better ones in the class
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coming up? Let me put this way.
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He's going to rise on the next rankings update 24/7.
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This is the guy who was named the Alpha dog at the the recent
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seven on 7 camp. Yeah, 6 foot four, 205 pounds,
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41 touchdowns in 7A Illinois high school football to two
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interceptions. Pretty good.
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Versatile playmaker with some Iowa ties.
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I think a lot more offers are going to come his way.
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This is a guy that will not take his recruitment into the summer.
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From everything I've been told, he's going to look to make a
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decision by the end of April or May.
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He's already visited Iowa's wife and he's going to come back for
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a visit, I believe the second week of April of some sort.
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But his goal, he told 24/7 Sports this yesterday.
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He only wants to take one official visit, and that's the
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school that he commits to. And that's something, yeah, the
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other guys have who did, who did they have him ticketed to and
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then have done an about face and now I think I was the favorite.
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Now, do you know, do you know which way he was leaning or the
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speculation was he was leaning? I would say this Iowa, if I'm
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Iowa, I do not trade spots with anyone right now.
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How about that? How about that?
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That'd be a big. One thing, it's a gun deal.
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No, no, I was in a phenomenal spot.
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Well for a QB of that size and those stats 41 and 2.
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And the scouts like him. Yeah, good.
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David Eichel, we like having him on and we do it, if not weekly,
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certainly every other week. David, thanks for popping on.
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We appreciate it. 24/7 Sports, hawkeyeinsider.com, David Eichel
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joining us. David, thank you, man.
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Have a great rest of your week. We'll talk to you down the road.
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See you pal. I always appreciate you guys.
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Thanks. Thank you.
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David Eichel, as we check in on, I'm glad you brought that up.
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I saw that over the weekend. That was.
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Not. Right.
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I think that's it. Do you remember his dad at?
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All I remember the name. I've seen the name before.
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Yes, just one that slipped by the cracks there.
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But yeah, it continues. And David, with a little insight
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there, he's going to be rising up the boards over at 24/7 also
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#2 over at Rivals on Three. Yeah, there was this story that
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came out I think on Caikert's on Caikert's board this this past
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over the over the weekend. That would be good to say the
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least. All right, we'll take your time
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out, come back and we'll BS for a little while and a variety of
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topics. David Montgomery on the move.
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Yes, he's headed to Texas. Busy week as teams try to, you
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know, navigate the cap and find some space because the legal
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tampering period. Does it begin next Monday?
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I think it does. It's such a weird terminology
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too. Legal tampering, yes, Yeah, I'm
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pretty sure it does because free agency starts March the 11th and
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that's Wednesday, so. Should college athletics just
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change what they do to that too? Right.
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Just just call it what it is. Absolutely.
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Miller and Condon, it's 120. You're listening to the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. I'm Miller Condon, 125, Iowa
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Sports Radio Network, Trent and I with you until just before
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2:00 off the bench. At that time, Sean Roberts,
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Lucas Strain take you until 5 overtime, Iowa from 5:00 until
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6:00. So March Madness coming up this
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weekend. Both of the Iowa teams play
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Thursday. Adam Eminecker will join us
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tomorrow. He'll be part of the broadcast
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team down there, but we'll talk to Eminecker before he heads
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down to Saint Louis. Your thoughts on this?
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Of the of the two, obviously you and I's got the better chance to
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advance. Oh, absolutely.
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But how far? Well, right side of the bracket
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for them. Absolutely.
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I agree. I think things fell well.
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You want to stay away from Belmont certainly as long as
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possible. They've separated themselves.
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And I do think that you and I matches up relatively well with
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the Bruins. But, well, if they're playing,
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you don't see the championship and you got Kevin Harlan on the
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call and you're there playing on Sunday.
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Is it noon or one you? I think.
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I think he's moved, yeah. And what Dick Enberg did that
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did that, he did. Yeah, when when it started on
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CBS, which was definitely a big deal to get that huge because
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back in the day, way back, the championship was on Monday.
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I remember that. I remember watching Greg
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McDermott. Yes, we were in Tampa for spring
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training. We found a bar to put it on.
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It was a hockey bar. They put the game on.
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I don't remember they won or lost, but this was probably
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2006. They won that year, yes, that
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was the first time that he had got the team to that level.
19:32
They advanced on and yes, they won in Arch Madness and then
19:36
made a couple more tournaments after that.
19:38
Dermot had some really good teams but the first team was
19:40
2004 was led by. Is he done, by the way,
19:44
McDermott, have you heard that, that he's.
19:45
Thinking that Rumbling's been out there for a.
19:47
While, well, they've already got his replacement, Yeah, to
19:49
Creighton. They've already the heir of
19:50
parents. Been already.
19:51
But the coaching tree goes a long ways.
19:53
I mean, you look at the tentacles.
19:55
I saw something, a graphic over the weekend that just the number
19:58
of guys out there, they're like 18 guys that under him, yes,
20:02
that approached under Greg McDermott that are now head
20:04
coaches not only at the Division One level, but there's tons of
20:07
shows, but all over the country. Good guy to learn from.
20:10
Yeah, a good guy. I agree.
20:12
I agree, I do too. I know it didn't go very well.
20:14
Names, no, and Wesley Johnson wasn't tampered with.
20:18
We'd be having a different conversation.
20:20
But alas, here we are. The cycle fans, happy the way
20:23
that it certainly turned out for them also.
20:25
But in 2004, that was that first year they beat Southwest
20:28
Missouri State in double overtime to punch their ticket
20:31
to the Big Dance, where they lost by 5 as a 14 seed against
20:36
the Georgia Tech, I believe. That might have, you know, as I
20:39
think back, that might have been the year that I watched them on.
20:41
Monday night? Yeah, that would have been that
20:44
first one. I think it was so we must have
20:47
been in Tampa covered Yankee spring training.
20:49
Yankee spring training I. Think so because the Jock had
20:53
the Yankees that year, so that would make sense.
20:56
Jock was the first sports station in Central, OR in Iowa.
21:00
21 and 10 that year for the Panthers.
21:02
Ben Jacobson. No, not that.
21:04
Ben Jacobson player Ben Jacobson The Sioux City Ben Jacobson Eric
21:08
Crawford. Who you see sure.
21:09
David Gruber, Brooks Mccowan Matt Schneiderman.
21:13
Wow, that's a fun. Look down and you you were at
21:16
the KNAP center yesterday. Yes, went to the knap center,
21:19
not a full building by any means about his.
21:21
How did the blue out go over? There was.
21:24
Lots of blue. Lots of blue.
21:25
That nearly as much purple really is in the past also now I
21:29
haven't been the last couple of years when Drake has come back
21:32
and and people jump back on the bandwagon for the Bulldogs.
21:35
But yeah not nearly as much purple.
21:37
But a lot of times you've gone and you and I is really good.
21:40
Yeah, that I've been in the past and they're good this year.
21:43
How good? Well, here's that Belmont is
21:45
your. Boat to win the to win the
21:47
Valley. To win Arch man.
21:48
OK, All right, let's start at the top with Belmont plus 155.
21:51
That's not a price I know that's going to get you, no.
21:53
No, no, no. How about a long shot,
21:55
Evansville? That would be a long shot. 500
21:58
to 1. Are they really are the purple?
21:59
Aces. So Drake's got to be, what, 200?
22:02
They are the second longest. Choice at how much?
22:05
200 to one. Are they really?
22:06
They want to bet on the Doggies to win four in a row.
22:09
Here's your opportunity. No one's ever done it, folks.
22:11
One team has got there. Yep, that is it.
22:13
Yep. Could they become the first?
22:15
Well, it would start with a win against Southern Illinois, then
22:18
beating Belmont, then either Murray State or UIC, and then
22:22
the championship against What do?
22:23
They say trenching friends to be the champ, you got to get
22:25
through the best. And Belmont awaits on Friday.
22:27
Chip in the chair, right? Yep, they got a chip in the
22:30
chair and a 200 to 1 ticket. That game is earlier than it
22:33
used to be the first, because now that there's and you, you
22:36
clue me in on this. There's three games on Thursday.
22:39
Used to be 6 and 8:30, now it's 3:36 and 8:30.
22:43
Yes. So we'll have the Drake Southern
22:46
Illinois game that is at 3:30 our time, 6:00 for the 710 game,
22:50
Valpo, Indiana State and then you and I, Evansville will be
22:53
the nightcap 830 for that one. And quarterfinals are the same,
22:57
the same times. Right, right.
22:58
I wonder if we're getting that's probably an ESPN plus.
23:03
And it might be on like, well, FanDuel Midwest.
23:06
That's what I'm wondering, yes, yeah.
23:07
Or Marquee might pick. Yeah, Marquee's done that in the
23:09
past too. It'll be on television I'm going
23:11
to get. We'll find it somewhere if you
23:13
don't have the plus. So, so Belmont's the favorite.
23:15
So give me what's Murray State? Murray State you can get the
23:20
erasers at 12:50. In fact, they are the 6th
23:23
betting choice. The number two seed is Bradley.
23:28
Bradley has the fourth longest odds though.
23:29
I was shocked by that. Brian Wardle had a slow start.
23:34
They're playing good basketball though, and you can get them as
23:37
the number two seed at plus 750. Which big difference between
23:41
1:00 and 2:00, right? The favorite and then the second
23:43
choice. Well, the second they're not the
23:44
second choice. Who is Illinois State?
23:46
It's not Illinois State, it's the you and I.
23:49
Panthers are the second betting choice on DraftKings.
23:52
Playing on Thursday? Absolutely.
23:54
What's their odds? Plus 475?
23:57
You've got to be kidding me. See, This is why I was dumbfound
24:01
when Emma Necker last Tuesday said that there's a chance that
24:05
you and I is playing on Thursday.
24:06
This team should not be playing. No, they're better than that.
24:08
Absolutely this team. So you saw them in person
24:11
yesterday. What worries you about the
24:13
Panthers going up against the Belmont?
24:17
I, I nothing, I think they're good.
24:19
I've watched a lot of their games.
24:20
I've watched a lot more than them and I have Drake this year.
24:23
I think they're a good team. The Illinois State, their last
24:26
loss, they just couldn't get a stop.
24:29
Illinois State was just, they were there defensively.
24:30
We know you and I is one of the better defensive.
24:32
They're 21st in the country, defensive efficiency.
24:35
I understand why they're up there now.
24:37
I thought I'd be able to get 7-8 to 1, something like that,
24:40
because they have to have the extra game and we haven't seen
24:42
it happen before. So I think you and I, they have
24:45
the pieces absolutely to make a run.
24:48
Trey Campbell, he could have got a job somewhere, he could have
24:50
got paid. He stuck around for another
24:52
year. Leon Bond, he could have gone
24:54
somewhere and made money. He could have gone back to the
24:56
ACC where he began his career and made some money.
24:59
A lot of this group stayed around for this year.
25:02
They had the downturn when Smith got hurt, OK, they turned it
25:05
around. Really, it's those last two
25:06
losses that are head scratching. I would put Bradley second,
25:09
personally, if we're going to the con and casino in terms of
25:12
the odds. But I understand why you and I
25:14
certainly is up there, because this team absolutely can go on a
25:17
run. So on Friday night I watched, at
25:22
your suggestion, Miami and Western Michigan.
25:25
I was wondering if you were as I was getting ready to I keep.
25:29
Jet out for I never saw the incident at the end of the first
25:32
half. I I did see it on Twitter
25:33
afterwards and then I was locked for the rest of the game.
25:36
Well, yeah, because it was a an hour difference.
25:38
So I did see the end I I thought Miami got really lucky to win
25:42
the game. I was pulling like hell for
25:43
Western Michigan but but nonetheless.
25:46
That coach blew a gasket, man. Yeah, Travis Steele.
25:49
He blew he. Snapped.
25:50
Yes, he did. Travis Steele, you might
25:52
remember him from Xavier, who is one of the few coaches that
25:54
haven't been very successful at Xavier.
25:56
Hard to do. That's a good program that spins
25:59
and invests in good place to recruit in Cincinnati.
26:01
He was not very good there. This team that's happened a
26:04
bunch to him though, they just they find a way.
26:07
So are you in the Bruce Pearl line of thinking though, they
26:09
shouldn't get in? They got to win their conference
26:10
tournament. After what I saw on Friday
26:12
night, I, I, I really can't argue.
26:16
I get, I mean, if, if they go unbeaten, they go 33 and 1 and
26:19
lose in the final of their tournament, it would be hard to
26:23
keep them out. It would be, I don't want to say
26:25
criminal, but it would be, it would be disappointing to keep
26:29
them out. But Pearl, I mean, he took a
26:30
stand on that. Would it be to Travis Steele's,
26:36
I don't know better judgement to come out with those emails,
26:40
those texts, those phone calls that he made to the power
26:43
conference teams that he tried to get on the schedule?
26:46
Wouldn't hurt. Because they brought back a lot
26:49
of guys, a lot of people knew they were going to be good, a
26:51
good major coming into the year. But I'm guessing there's a but
26:54
there's a lot of. That's a part too.
26:56
That's similar emails. I'm wondering if it's going to
26:59
be looked at, it's grandstanding, or, well, now
27:02
you're. I don't know if there's a good
27:04
path for them, no. He finished the chop.
27:07
I know this about him. He hates music stands, hates
27:10
him, I. Think what's crazy?
27:12
He. Decked that thing, Absolutely.
27:14
I mean, you talk about blowing against.
27:16
Well, and the and the the assistant coach, I thought he
27:19
was going to try and fight him, his own assistant coach, because
27:22
he was. He was not the whole feedback
27:24
guy because he wanted to go right through him, Oh my God,
27:26
and get to those officials. But Miami Ohio continues 29 and
27:30
O on the season. Did you sign up for Iowa?
27:33
Miami, Ohio 8-9 game right now. No, I'd like to see 1111.
27:38
Stop with the 11. Stop putting them in Dayton.
27:40
Why do you want them to have? I don't want well.
27:42
Because it's good for business. Because I want.
27:44
Anybody hates Dayton? No, I know, but I wanted to play
27:46
and win. Well how about they just win
27:49
against a six seed? No has to be there, but two do 2
27:54
do. Right, two of them.
27:55
Well, it depends how the bracket breaks.
27:57
Sometimes it's a 12 seed. You definitely don't want that.
27:59
No, they're not going to be a 12.
28:00
No, but if you get an extra game out of them, I as long as they
28:05
win, we've seen them go there as an extra game and lose.
28:07
And then Scott, I'm Fran McCaffrey, losing his mind over
28:11
our friend Scott Dockerman, who had the audacity to rightly call
28:15
it a play in game. And France snap.
28:17
By the way, Scott Dockerman will join Trent tonight, tomorrow at
28:20
1:00. He spent the best part of a week
28:22
in Indianapolis at the combine. So we'll to pick Doc's brain on
28:26
that and other topics. What is this is and this is one
28:31
of the questions for Doc. But when it comes to Soresby,
28:33
their quarterback or their former quarterback, did you see
28:37
they're suing him? Yes.
28:38
Yeah. They're going to win.
28:40
Cincinnati's going to win. Yeah, They have a contract.
28:42
They have a contract. So who's going to pay that?
28:45
Texas Tech? I believe they're right.
28:47
They will. Cody Campbell.
28:48
Yeah, maybe Cody Campbell. Just scratch a check.
28:50
Yeah, so it's no skin off Soresby's.
28:53
You know what? Is it?
28:54
No, he'll be fine. So what we're talking about is,
28:56
of course, Soresby left Cincinnati after signing a multi
29:00
year deal and broke the terms of that contract when, you know,
29:05
better opportunity came along and he's off to Texas Tech and
29:09
the folks at Cincinnati got all wound up and filed suit against
29:13
their former starting quarterback and they're going to
29:15
win. And we saw Darian Mensa do the
29:17
same thing, leaving. Duke.
29:18
But you know what did Mensa have to pay?
29:20
I don't think he did. Yeah, they, they settled did
29:23
they settled, They settled it and that's what it was.
29:25
So yeah, same thing's going to happen here.
29:27
I don't think there's going. To be No, no, he's going to play
29:29
Texas Tech. The the quote here this from Max
29:32
Olson of ESPN. Darian, Mensa and Duke agreed to
29:34
a settlement of their dispute that cleared the way for him to.
29:37
Any terms or any hint of what it?
29:39
Was nothing that was listed. Figures, settlement or anything
29:43
like that. It's all funny money.
29:45
As well, sadly. Yeah, it's nothing that works in
29:48
our waters, that is for sure. It is a different level.
29:51
So Speaking of college football, two things while you were gone.
29:55
I've always wanted to pick your brain.
29:56
We just haven't had time. But we got time today to spread
29:58
our wings a little bit more. I want to start with something
30:01
that you have heard me grandstanding and yelling about
30:04
now for the last six years of what the Big 10 did at the end
30:06
of the season of 2020 thousand. Percent.
30:08
Right. I have loved it.
30:10
I thought it should have continued starting the next
30:11
season and now the new fangled PAC 12 is going to be, or was
30:16
it, the Mountain West is going to be doing that end of the
30:18
season. You know that teams are going to
30:20
get their home games. There's four teams.
30:22
Four teams are going on the road, but you don't know who
30:25
those opponents are going to be now.
30:27
Not a whole lot of flexibility, possibility of rematches with
30:31
only eight teams. There's not a whole lot of
30:32
maturations that you can have. We're also talking about him in
30:35
major the likelihood that this actually matters for the College
30:38
Football Playoff. No slim and none, however.
30:41
When you're talking about a 16 team Big 12, an 18 team Big 10,
30:47
definitely, then you have a lot of different ways that you can
30:49
make. This is a done deal.
30:51
Yeah, it's happening this year. You look at their scheduled grid
30:54
that is out, it is that final week home.
30:56
It's DVD or Rd. TBD.
30:59
I love it. I love the idea and it's
31:01
something I think that should. When will they determine where
31:04
they're going? Was there a?
31:05
Sunday, like after the final. They'll play on Saturday, then
31:08
Sunday. You find out who you're playing
31:10
next Saturday. Yep, you know you're on the
31:12
road. Yes.
31:13
Or you're home. Yep, but you don't know who's
31:16
coming to your place or where you're headed to.
31:18
I think it is a tremendous idea, yes.
31:21
I hope it works. I hope they get some buzz out of
31:23
it. Now will they will they do kind
31:26
of there's nothing that they could make a quote.
31:29
I know how you feel about this ATV show out of it or or get
31:33
some publicity around the event because it's a it's it's the
31:36
Mountain West yes, but they've got their own network, don't
31:39
they? Do they still were they forced
31:40
to sell that? Did that go belly?
31:41
Up the Mountain West thing I think.
31:43
They still do Isn't doesn't CW does they carry a bunch of their
31:47
they did. Maybe they don't anymore, so
31:49
there's nothing you could do that way to.
31:51
Get. Well, you could.
31:51
I mean, you just put it online. Yeah.
31:53
Just put up a video feed. You can do it that way.
31:56
That's definitely the way that it goes that.
31:58
Yeah, I think it's a tremendous idea.
32:00
It's something that makes a whole lot of sense for everybody
32:02
in college football to do this. We learned in 2020 we had.
32:06
Was it BYU in Liberty BYU and somebody that.
32:09
Yes, and it was a hell of a game.
32:11
Coastal. Carolina.
32:12
It was a hell of a game. Yes, and both of them and.
32:15
Coastal Carolina got them right. I can't I.
32:17
Think so. And it was a really tight fit.
32:19
Oh, now I got to look. Both of those teams, though,
32:21
were in contention to kind of move up the pecking order.
32:24
They were having tremendous seasons and it was like Tuesday
32:28
they came to agreement to play the game on Saturday.
32:30
You can absolutely do this. It is OK.
32:34
I would love to see that and all right, we know that the future
32:38
college football is going to look a whole lot different.
32:40
The way that this is all going to be structured is going to be
32:43
different. I think this is another
32:44
tremendous idea that somebody and a lot of times that's how it
32:48
has to start, right? Smaller conference comes up with
32:50
the idea and it morphs into what it is today.
32:54
The other college football story that happened I thought was
32:56
pretty important while you were gone was North Dakota State
33:00
departing for the new Mountain West.
33:02
They are going to have to catch up in terms of scholarships, not
33:05
as many scholarships, but we know in this state, both sides
33:09
of the state, what North Dakota State can do Kansas State knows
33:13
the same. This is an incredibly good
33:15
program. They're going to be I believe
33:18
one of the favorites. You're in the year out in that
33:20
newfangled Mountain West who not real tough anymore compared to
33:24
what it was after. You lose Boise and you lose
33:26
Colorado State and San Diego State, Fresno as they depart for
33:30
the new PAC 12. It is a winnable league and you
33:34
want to do it now because as all these deck chairs are shuffling
33:37
and we're figuring out what it's going to look like, I think the
33:40
Bison made the right move. Are they going to win a national
33:42
championship? No.
33:44
However, we just saw James Madison in the College Football
33:46
Playoff. They're power.
33:48
Trend within five years, North Dakota State in the College
33:51
Football Playoff. I don't think it's a stretch.
33:54
One of their players, well, look at the the starting guard for
33:58
North Dakota State last year. He's with the Seahawks.
34:01
He's a first round pick. I can't think of his name.
34:05
God, age gets you. They got some dudes every year.
34:09
Trey Lance's kid brother was one of the stars of this weekend.
34:12
An Indianapolis 63 wide receiver.
34:14
Run like the wind. What the Hell's that kid's name?
34:16
He's got a really cool name. Like I, I, I don't even know,
34:19
you know, I can't find. You're the draft guy.
34:21
Yeah, I can't find the BYU Coastal Carolina game.
34:26
Well, let's see Coastal Carolina football in 2020.
34:29
Let's bring up their schedule. 2020 Coastal Carolina, because
34:32
it was Jamie Chadwell in Coastal Carolina.
34:34
They play. It was BYU.
34:35
There you go, it was BYU. It happened on December 5th at
34:40
2217. Coastal Carolina got the
34:43
victory. In that one I remember watching,
34:45
it was a hell of a football game.
34:47
We didn't have a whole lot else to do.
34:48
No, we didn't. We'll take a time out, we'll
34:50
come back, we'll finish up the program.
34:52
Trent's plays of the day. Iowa State has that number
34:54
number moved. It was 7 1/2 when we went on the
34:57
air. It remains.
34:59
It's 7 1/2 everywhere, 7 1/2 everywhere.
35:03
Arizona is a 7 1/2 point favorite over the clones
35:05
tonight. There's one other decent game
35:07
Duke plays NC State. NC State on the road in Raleigh,
35:14
9 1/2. The number for that one.
35:16
Does it matter they're. Just watching them a lot against
35:19
Virginia Saturday. They're just, they really are.
35:23
Are are we headed for Duke Michigan Part 2?
35:27
I would take. That I would too.
35:28
We've had some clunkers on Monday nights.
35:31
Yep. For the championship, I want to
35:32
see Duke beat Florida in the semifinal.
35:34
That's what you want? Yeah.
35:36
Sight unseen. You give me that right now on a
35:38
platter. I think that's probably Arizona
35:41
is going to have a say. Plenty of teams.
35:44
There's going to be a close call on a Sweet 16.
35:46
There's it's not going to be easy.
35:47
It rarely is unless you're Yukon a couple years ago and the path
35:51
that they went through. Do you feel like I do that after
35:54
watching Illinois on Friday night?
35:56
My hopes were kind of dashed that, you know, any hopes for
35:59
cashing that 80 to 1 ticket? Probably not going to happen.
36:02
I'd never had hopes for you in that ticket and I think I told
36:05
you very different times. Again, it's about winning a
36:08
national championship and with that defense it's not going to
36:11
happen for them. I love.
36:14
I know you have sold me. October is the best month for
36:17
sports. Completely agree.
36:19
You got me. We don't get football this month
36:21
right? This is my favorite time of year
36:23
though. You know, it's a blast.
36:24
I I love the month too. I do.
36:26
You starting tonight with the Horizon League that's get
36:28
started with their conference tournament this evening and over
36:31
the next 14 days we're going to have over 340 teams that have a
36:36
chance to punch their ticket to get to the dance.
36:39
Watching these small conference tournaments, how much it matters
36:42
to these guys. You can talk about NIL, you can
36:44
talk about all those different things, but start watching.
36:46
Start watching. Well, for a lot of these guys,
36:48
it's an audition for next. Year, no doubt about it, this is
36:51
an opportunity for so many people across the country to get
36:54
there. And for us in this state, it's
36:56
Iowa State taking that next chance and it's making that next
36:59
step, right? And getting past the Sweet 16
37:00
for Iowa's getting to a Sweet 16 for you and I and just getting
37:03
back to the tournament after the drought that they've had.
37:06
Everybody, though, has a chance and you will see it starting
37:09
with the Horizon League all the way through until we get to the
37:11
championship game of the Big 10 tournament.
37:13
This time, in the grand scheme of things, does it matter?
37:16
We'll get into the bracket? Yeah, it does matter.
37:18
We know that. Does seating matter by the time
37:20
we get to next weekend? Not really.
37:22
I think what we see is actually overrated.
37:24
We've learned that throughout the years.
37:26
But what it does at the mid major and the low major level,
37:29
this for me is what makes college basketball so special.
37:32
I can't wait. And I got my ESPN app ready to
37:34
go because a lot of these games are ESPN Plus.
37:37
As Michael said, basketball during the day.
37:39
I mean you got to love it right during the weekday and you and I
37:43
is the 2nd. Choice in Saint Louis isn't
37:44
that. That truly is that tells me
37:46
there's a really good chance that maybe they could.
37:49
Wouldn't that be something 145? Miller and Condon, glad you're
37:52
with us. Our final segment, trends, plays
37:54
of the day. That's next.
37:55
It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
37:58
Hi, Miller and Condon. Our final segment, Circus sports
38:03
at Las Vegas in the app here in the state of Iowa, over in
38:07
Illinois, down in Missouri, Circus sports, wherever you're
38:11
listening. Circus sports might be in a
38:14
state where you reside, Kentucky also out there, Colorado
38:17
likewise. All right, Arizona and Iowa
38:20
State tonight. What do you expect to see?
38:22
Do you expect to see a spirited rebound by Iowa State where
38:26
they've lost before? They've come back and they've
38:28
played very well. But this is Arizona in Tucson.
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The match up is scary. The match up is they're so big.
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They just got one guy after another.
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But yeah, to your point about them bouncing back, I I think we
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will see that. The only time it didn't happen
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was after the Kansas loss against Cincinnati when they
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went on the road and lost that one back-to-back.
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But they have responded. TCU come back in throttle,
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Kansas, BYU come back dispatch Utah pretty easily.
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I think they're going to play better and.
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Has BYU won a game since then? I don't think they have.
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They got embarrassed again. This.
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Weekend they lost in West Virginia and they got beat by
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UCF in the middle of the week when they got blown out there.
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Talk about another team go in the wrong direction.
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We talk about Iowa. It's not in a vacuum.
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It's not just about your Hawkeye.
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Hawkeye fans. So what's happened around you?
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And that's why they're still in good shape at BYU.
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Still 8-9 game with BYU there. Youth, you're number one seed
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and you got to face off against Debansa.
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Yeah, it might be the number one pick in the draft when it comes
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to Arizona. Obviously the guards, Buris and
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Bradley, that freshman Karchenkov, I think is how he's
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such a smart player. They got a big kid in the
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middle, 7 foot 2. Of course, the other fresh,
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there's three freshmen, right? Karchenkov, Pete and Buries are
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all freshmen. And they're getting Aristotle
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back, who played the last time just a couple of minutes towards
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the end of it. So he's back, another freshman
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and my favorite player on the team.
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He's not the best player by any. Del orso.
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You know me well, don't you? You know me well.
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I absolutely love that dude. He can knock down some 3
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pointers. He seems to have his nose in the
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middle of everything. He is on the floor all the time.
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He got banged up in a game recently.
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Remember what it was where he went down?
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He turned his ankle. That's what it was maybe a
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couple weeks ago. But he's one of those guys I
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just always really like. I don't think it's a great
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matchup, but I believe it not I believe in.
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The organizational control that he has, the things that it's not
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going to completely fall apart, that they're going to play well.
40:17
Is it good enough to beat them? I don't think so.
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All right. Let's open the Condon casino,
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OK, And we're going to, we can't bet on props here, the player
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props in the state of Iowa. But if you could, where would
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you put the points for Toure at? 4 1/2 that's going to just.
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Say the same thing 4 1/2. Well, they are available in
40:39
other states, right? Do you want to see if I can find
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them? If you can.
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I think I can. I don't know if they'll have him
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listed though. They do not they.
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Who do they have? Jefferson.
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I got. Jefferson 16 1/2.
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All right, Manchelevich. Also 16 1/2.
40:53
Lipsy, 11 1/2. OK.
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Then go to, then drop down to Arizona buries.
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He has to be the. He has to be the the most points
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listed. Right 16 OK then.
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Bradley 14 1/2. Peak 12. 11 1/2 OK,
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Kretschegoff, he is 10 1/2. There's Deroso 7 1/2, Del Rosso
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and Buchanan 6 1/2 at the bottom of the list, but.
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They're outside. It's 7 1/2 points.
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It's a lot of points for. Now is this an official pick or
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an? Opinion.
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This is an opinion. This is not an official pick.
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I'll log it if I do I, I think I'd grab the point.
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I think I would too. You're with me, OK?
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I would too. A family place.
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So if we get it wrong, I'm going I'm going to officially put it
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in and blame you if it goes wrong.
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How's that going? Does that work?
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Sure. Yeah, you know I don't bet
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games, but why not? I do not have a play in the
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Duke, North Carolina game and I haven't gotten anywhere yet.
41:51
So as I mentioned earlier, the Horizon League starts tonight.
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I love it. I love conference tournaments.
41:57
It doesn't matter what maturation it is.
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I absolutely love these things each and every time.
42:02
However, the Horizon League, you got 2 awful teams going at it.
42:07
Cleveland State tonight, they're hosting, they're 10 and 21
42:11
against Ooey Pooey. Now, just Indiana University at
42:15
Indianapolis, who is 7 and 24, That is the lid lifter tonight
42:20
in college basketball for the conference tournaments.
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I don't know if I'm going to get a play.
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IU Indy has lost, what is it, six in a row.
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Cleveland State has lost seven in a row.
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Something's got to give tonight. They'll be point scored.
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I do know that. You do not have an official play
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as of this time. Iowa State, you're in.
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I'm going to do it. We're going to put one in there.
42:42
There's a few other low major game, major games that are
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happening. Haven't jumped at anything yet.
42:46
I'll probably take a peek at some NBA later this evening, but
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we're just going to make a one. I'm going to take the Cyclones
42:51
as my solo play here tonight. Can we get a one?
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And no, we get one just to get things started.
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Start the week off Wow. What did that feel?
42:59
Great. Indeed.
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All right. Tomorrow, Adam Emmenecker will
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join us. Doko Pizza sponsors that.
43:05
We'll preview the Valley tournament with Emmenecker,
43:07
Scott Dockerman back from Indianapolis.
43:09
We spend a week, we'll talk to Doc about that and other college
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football topics. And then another thing we're
43:15
working on for the women's tournament with a Big 12
43:19
tournament, too, I will hopefully be able to line up
43:21
Tommy Birch, if you're listening, that's going to do it
43:24
for us. Miller and Condon with you every
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