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Episode 1718 - Reimagining Africa · Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast

• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, welcome to Drinkin' Bro's Kids!
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're waking up in the morning with us now.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: How is that?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Get a little coffee, little tea.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where you are right now, but hopefully you're enjoying yourself.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're halfway around the world, having a Guinness.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: you're listening to yesterday's show jokingly we were talking about just doing a full episode about reimagining Africa.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd text you guys this morning on the way to work and so let's do this.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do this show last night.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uplates.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: shock and had two games on the screen there.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: One was the football game and the other one was LeBron James in the 76ers.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to see how that new team was.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously this isn't this sports show but during the National Anthem, Anthony.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: LeBron James decided to practice his golf swing.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And people were pretty pissed off about it.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Myself included, and I wrote on Twitter to someone, I was like, What other country in the world, where you would get paid a billion dollars to dribble a piece of rubber?
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not to, well, yeah, I guess technically it's dribbling England, Germany, France, Spain.
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: All those countries.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad you brought those up because you know those countries have in common.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're all very proud of their national anthem.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like this asshole here.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: What was this?
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a five year old standing in line.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: can't stay still.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's all performative.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to let people know that I got a problem with this.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what it feels like because he's a fact.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a fact.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it, right?
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, let's be real.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: LeBron James is a fucking pussy.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's never been at a fight in his life.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's always been bigger than everybody else, and still found a way to make himself the victim.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's rich.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's richer than 99.9999% of the entire world, and he found a reason to make himself the victim.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a faggot.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shut the fuck up dude.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: You almost got two spit takes out a ross in two days.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I look it's it's 10 a.m. here on the east coast and you know again Just having coffee the booze isn't it's all the afternoon I was not expecting to hear the word Faggot twice within the first two minutes of the show today So you know it's gonna be good.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a page room.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's gonna be real good We're here on a Patreon today, but no lie
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: As I was thinking about yesterday's show, and then what was going on last night, I was like, man, what is Africa actually given us?
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what is it, but they, to the rest of the world?
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it didn't exist before them.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, it didn't.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't, and then, uh, Luke, do me a favor.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I typed it in last night.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, all I typed in was three words in a Google.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was what has Africa?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Just type those three words and then see what pops up and then just read it out loud.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa contributed to the world?
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the same one that I got.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we're on two different computers.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm at home.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: This was in my lap on my laptop.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're at a desktop here at the office.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's yours.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: What's the next one?
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa done for the world?
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa invented?
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa invented for the world?
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa created?
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa ever invented?
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: What has Africa given the, you get the idea.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're all the same thing.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, I, but, but I think everybody's got the same questions.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Dan correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what this search is for is, you type in a couple words and it'll finish your sentence and say, hey, yeah, but it's based on,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: most popular searches.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if that's the most popular search, then everybody's got the same questions that we have.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for real, like that, that's what I took out of it last night.
• 4:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, we're going to try to treat this seriously today, but with Africa itself, obviously, would you believe in Pengea?
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: um, not necessarily, but maybe.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, because they've always said the first body of the first man was found in Africa.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that, no, it's not just that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The fossil record shows, um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... human beings and cromagged in and and and the end of all both i think in the same location of the same depth so it happens is uh... and you can see it if you go to like uh... new mexico or arazona new america excuse me or arazona and look at some of the carved out rock especially the grand canyon or the painted desert or something like that you can the reason the painted desert looks like that is because sediment layers built up over time
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then water eroded them, but you can see based on the layers.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One what elements were present then and two what animal life was present there because you'll find fossilized bone fragmented find plant life, and also how long that period existed based on how thick it is, right?
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you look at it.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is terrible.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Some excavation.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go to the painted desert, man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: type in painted desert.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best exam.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It just gives you the best visual of what I'm talking about because an overhead exclamation won't do it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So get up close.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so no, go back, go back to the search screen.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this one right here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Where is that up?
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a new Mexico, right?
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe Arizona?
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's going to be right around there.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is New Mexico.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you can see those are like, it looks like it's been painted, but that's those are layers of sediment built up over the years that like the wind blows and it sits there, time and pressure and compacts it into a little hill, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So when we're excavating certain places, you can see during certain time periods, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can do carbon dating on the bones on any organic material on certain other things and see how what the half life is and how old it was or what of the fuck.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then you can see, if you see like Crow Magden or Neanderthal on the same sediment line that human beings are like,
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... modern human DNA which is like three hundred thousand years old one fifty three hundred thousand depends uh... you can tell that they live together right so they hold us once we found are in a rack basically massive a tamiya and that area okay because as you start to go through
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: ancient and pre-historic times and all that other stuff here's what they were credited with early stone tools the oldest stone and bone tools originated in Africa millions of years ago no I don't I don't I don't know about that I wouldn't have been human being so but
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  [SPEAKER_01]: our ancestors have been around for some amount of time.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably, what do you think, three million years?
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some like that?
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bypedal primates.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cavemen, is that what you guys are talking about?
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, even a precursor to cavemen, probably.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 7:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if they would specifically have lived in caves, but that's just kind of a, like the cave, the cave part of it would have been,
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: when they were confronted with some kind of predator, save her two tigers, mammoth stuff like that and they had to fuck off and run back to the cave to hide.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only reason they would, right?
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the only reason you find yourself in the cave is the hide.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know if what weather conditions or something like that.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: But not typically now.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They're also credited with the controlling of fire in Tally sticks.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: This is early humans in Africa, first master, manipulating fire and recording data using Tally tools like the Limbombo and Shango bones.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I promise this is going somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Maritime and Fishing Year.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's something else they're credited with, early fishing hooks, bows, arrows, and boats, including the Dufana canoe.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're develops on that continent.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing is medicine and surgery, which becomes ironic later on.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: H&EJups and other regions practice early complex surgeries, bone settings, vaccinations, dental fillings, in the use of anti-bacterial, or pain relieving plant extracts.
• 9:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And those were the top, you know, three and four, which are massive, right?
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's no, there's bigger stuff than that.
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess fire is really important, but the Egyptians were toying around with pie, like mathematics, advanced mathematics, 35,000 years ago, people were, or 30 of 100 years ago, excuse me.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That the oldest, so that LeBamba, LeBamba bone, that you mentioned, that is a mathematical tool, right?
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they were also writing textbooks on how to do division and multiplication and fraction multiplication and geometric formulas and stuff like that.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were close on pie.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: They calculated at 3.16, obviously that's not true, but they got close.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was a professional walker who figured out, that was the thing back in the day because they would make road signs.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you would pay a guy to walk like 60 fucking miles or something like this, and they would say, or whatever clomber, whatever the fuck they were using, fucking qubits, I don't know.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But in Tanzania, about 2,000 years ago,
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: They made the first real version of steel, I think, and they heated theirs.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had higher grade carbon steel than the Romans did.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tanzania did.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had iron working in 1000 BC long before anybody else.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, then there's some pretty advanced farm ecology as well.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: like pain killers and uh... uh... uh... uh... gastrointestinal stuff um... bacterial treatments uh... they had a treatment for malaria i believe back then even though they don't really know it was uh... and then they came up with the three hundred sixty five and a quarter-day calendar two and each of you okay part of the meeting a lot of stuff got a lot of stuff nothing uh...
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Other than lately, but that's that's my point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If it all started there, there's one very important thing that we're leaving out since Africa's.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Dildos, okay, that was still the things that we've done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That bone and what Dildos and stone in some cases, which doesn't sound great, but if Africa is a first place that humanity ever existed, I'm assuming that that would be the first place that everybody, anybody ever came up with the idea of taking somebody else's possessions without permission.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they probably invented stealing also.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably probably, right?
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you look at the hits here, if you're the first to do all this shit, why did your civil is it?
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why wasn't it's much more advanced than everyone else in the entire world and why didn't it continue?
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, obviously because of white people, is that does that real or not?
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a theory here, so I think that the reason other places got more advanced was because that other places were harder to survive, and so that they had a necessity to innovate more, whereas in Africa, because the climate is more, you can be naked everywhere and like, survive.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to all over the place.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You same thing with all of the place.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people die from the cold, not from the heat for the most part.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can, so people who went to like Europe or like colder places were forced to innovate and they just got the ball rolling do they have the plan ahead also?
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: If their, if their culture didn't have the concept of planning ahead, planning for the future and like long-term goals, then they wouldn't be able to survive the winters.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was just necessity.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, agriculture wasn't necessary.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So then you, you can't blame white people.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can blame the weather for you not advancing as a culture.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is that what we're saying?
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Weather and agriculture.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Geography in general.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Geography in.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's insane.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: But as time went on, who was the first people to step in and kind of conquer some of these countries?
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, technically, Persia, I guess, right?
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be mine.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to lean on you guys for your history.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now instead of saying, I would say Iran before anybody else and then Rome after them.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess it probably depends on how you define it.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I asked first of all, in Africa, it's saying Portuguese.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Portuguese.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, but that when you say colonize, they mean some specific.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They mean like I agree.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I said after 1492 is what they mean.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm seeing is the exos, an ex group of West Semetic and 11 team were the first.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were the first outsiders to take over portions of Africa.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So always use this, isn't it?
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, that's not the problem.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not necessarily Jews, Arabs, or Semitic as well.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really?
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell them that.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't tell them.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, as far as modern medical engineering innovations here, human heart trans point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: South African physician is a Christian Bernard.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Christian with two A's.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, which means he, his family came from the Dutch.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Scott was probably why he's definitely why you look at him up right now he's only he's not been dead that long actually Like 20 or 30 or 40 years or something like that.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: It again here's where it gets interesting cat scan computerized Cat scan was developed with significant contributions from South African researcher Alan Korn Mac.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the earliest I don't see something like a white map the earliest major yet was the earliest major historical record of an outside power
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: is the Aquamanid Persian Empire, which conquered Egypt in 525 BC, so the Persians, no crack of the first, for sure.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, um,
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... the new be in conquest co-shite the kingdom of cosh uh... a syrians so that's serious that's kind of Middle Eastern those are probably the sometic sometic ones that were talking about to be honest
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: They briefly invaded and pushed out the Kushites, and then the Persian conquest was a full.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Nubians came first, tactically, and they came from the north, down.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Syrians came from the north, pushed them out.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Persians came from, I guess, the east and pushed all of them out.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the Greeks took it over, and then the Romans took it over.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when did it stop?
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like when did all the innovation then just stop?
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they became essentially what they are and what they have been because you look at pictures and everything and I've never been to Africa.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: We've had a lot of friends that have been over to Africa.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And everybody says the same thing that it's beautiful aesthetically, but it's just not advanced
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: 500 years ago, they had, there's something called the thriving golden ages, which is when Africa still had empires, Ghana, Mali, Zimbabwe, great Zimbabwe's, whether you just call it, and then Rhodesia, which is what it's actually called, and then Axem as well, and they had,
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: a big transfer in global trade networks, and then the richest people among those African empires started the transatlantic slave trade, wasn't us, not the wheat and participate.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you started it.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: There would have been no slaves to purchase had you not enslave them and put them on sale at Walmart.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't like how you change the price, either, right?
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep them the same price we're doing.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't like how the bartering that was going on?
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't like the NFL Combine style.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Run, jump, row, all that other stuff that they make them do with the NFL Combine.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what we're looking at then is 500 years.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why has this continent not advanced
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, people would say, uh, colonization, because the resources have been extracted by outside powers, um, which begs the question, why haven't you been able to stop them?
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because America started as what?
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody?
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Colony?
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: About that.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we kicked our colonizers, the fuck out.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we still make fun of them to this day.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, they were the largest empire in the history of the world of the time.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: For if you, it's been 500 years.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like now, maybe it would be difficult with modern armies and nukes and shit like that.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But how hard would it have been for an African nation to rise up and kill everybody fucking 250 years ago?
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not very as the answer.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a matter of fact, the Ottoman Empire was still in full swing back there.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are, and always will be just like the Middle East by the way, conquered people.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they haven't even started their trek towards liberty.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't even started yet.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We came out of Empires as well, and Empires in authoritarian regimes, just like everybody else, that's how it starts.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there was even during Empires, even pre-empires,
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: but through it as well, both in recent Rome, Macedonia and...
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: on through the English and German and Prussian and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, robe and traditions, there's always been this progress towards human liberty and it just hasn't for whatever reason been part of African culture.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been more like revenge and then 40 years later another that group gets like you get revenge on the oppressor and then
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: 40 years later, you've oppressed the former oppressor so much that now you're the oppressor and you get revenge, and then this keeps going into perpetuity, I guess.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's, I think it's a lack of literature and, you know, thinking on the issue, not to say that some Africans haven't contributed to that, because they certainly have, but...
• 19:54
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just, after 500 years, how does a one-continent that big with that many people?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Not figure it the fuck out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Can you name one over there that you would actually personally want to live in?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I can't either.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the wild thing to me.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you travel around the world and, you know, let's say Asia.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: If I had to live in Japan and the rest of my life, cool, you know, like if you were forced to do it and had to work there, all right, awesome, man.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Europe, most of it before, you know, everything that's going on, obviously.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could pick a fucking almost every country over there.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... Spain it's beautiful uh... France England, Ireland's Norway, Netherlands, I mean you can go on and on and on but I can't name one country in Africa no there isn't one and it's uh... yeah i mean it's interesting so why has why have like defeated empires in transition
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: modernized and their alternatives haven't, right?
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like Japan.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: We did the most horrific shit to Japan, maybe in the history, one country doing new in another country by dropping two nuclear bombs on them.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then they magically changed their culture to where it's fucking amazing over there.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what, 80 years or less then?
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: We helped them out a lot.
• 30:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't we, though?
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they had, they were on,
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: on some kind of track, before that, in the late middle to late 19th century, the May Restoration is where they kind of rapidly left the feudal society and went into a industrial state, but they still had, it was still an empire, an authoritarian one at that.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't get suicide bombers without an authoritarian empire who worship the state, and they invented that shit.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, post-World War II investments from the U.S. certainly played a major role in that.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the things about Africa as well,
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: is the size, like the instability and borders.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The borders change there and have changed there a lot.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of, you know, that fuchsia country up a little bit.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess the question is, what did we see in Japan that we needed it to be a functioning country, so we invested in it versus, has anybody really tried to invest in any of the African countries to make them functioning?
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, USAID allegedly.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's Bill Gates.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 31:36
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• 31:37
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• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's, I mean, there's a million people over the years.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's definitely like welfare, though, and like charity, then like investing in a country, you know?
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we weren't doing charity to Japan for them to come up, you know what I mean?
• 31:52
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• 31:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: My wife and I were talking about this, because it was a 60-minute special about a stupid fucking meat a few years back.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, oh, Anderson Kubo was just fucking chugging his dog, saying, hey, dude, you know, you've got this meat and then you've you've been to Africa and creator all these wells and all that other shit, and then it was a guy who pushed back on it from Africa who said,
• 32:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: We could have done that as an African business, but this dude came in and fucking bought up all the shit so he could have the money for the water.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was put to me like that.
• 32:24
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• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the money was just Bill Gates making more money versus actually helping the country.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think some of this stuff is compounding too.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Africa has nobody to blame for itself that it didn't have a broad conversation about human liberty as far back as everybody else did.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now the agents were late to that game as well, but and they still don't have the same sense of it that the West does.
• 32:50
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• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could say out of the control, like most of the rivers in Africa cannot be navigated, not in any meaningful sense.
• 33:02
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• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the big part of this is a lack of compounded development.
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• 33:23
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• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that would have been one of their primary means of shipping goods from one civilization to another.
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• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Except for Egypt, that wasn't a big thing for them for a very long time, and that we're talking about 4,500 years back when everybody started using the C for Travels, well, they never developed.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a big part of their economy to see our waterborne travel to ship goods.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So of course, you know, it was European slavers who showed up, or European ships who showed up to buy slaves and take them somewhere.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't African, especially in sub-Saharan Africa.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't African ships that were built there.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure that fucked them up, setting them back for quite a bit of time.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: South Africa was the wealthiest part.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was doing really well for a while, and then AIDS fucked it up, big time.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then again, part of it is governance.
• 34:42
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• 34:55
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• 35:05
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• 35:06
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• 35:16
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• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't require much skilled labor to dig holes in the ground.
• 35:24
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• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not farming, right?
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not farming sugar cane, which is the biggest thing that came out of the South, the Atlantic slave trade, and then later tobacco, where you have to know something and cotton as well.
• 35:40
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• 35:43
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• 35:44
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• 35:49
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• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's probably a big part of it, too, is a big part of it, is just geographic.
• 35:56
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• 36:08
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• 36:17
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• 36:24
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• 36:25
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• 36:35
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• 36:38
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• 36:43
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• 37:13
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• 37:33
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• 37:37
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• 37:39
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• 37:44
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• 38:34
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• 38:38
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• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he goes, yeah, it was awesome over there.
• 38:43
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• 38:46
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• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've never heard that one time about Africa.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard it from Europeans all the time.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've never heard it one single time about Africa.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd love to go back.
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: The reason why she's hiding out, she doesn't want to go back to Somalia, she doesn't go back to that fucking country.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then what the white husband, who's the American, is going to go back there?
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That guy would be fucking killed in 10 seconds.
• 39:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I look at it, if we have this 500-year problem, how do you fix it?
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: How do you fix this this continent or is it even fixable?
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was the thing that I was really fixated on last week.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, one of the, we talked about this somewhat recently, I think.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we're in a mixed world now.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it used to be that,
• 39:45
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• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and now it's bigger.
• 40:04
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• 40:09
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• 40:16
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• 40:25
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• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say, we're a much bigger, a greater position than they are at this point, we figured out hygiene, medicine, water, food, right?
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• 40:43
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• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's a blip from time to time, but the most part we figured it out.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what is our responsibility to them exactly?
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say definitely to share that.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: because it doesn't help us that Africa is a dangerous shithole.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it helps anybody.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: The question is, will they accept it?
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because so far, that's not been the case.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Christian missionaries have been going there for a long time.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just begging people to watch the fucking hands and wear condoms and shit.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not the Catholics, by the way.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pope John Paul, the second told Sub-Saharan Africans as 30% of them had AIDS that AIDS is bad, but condoms are worse.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's a fucking content, but yeah, like, you can't make people do stuff.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to let them come to the precipice of extinction, basically.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But are we just going to ignore, like, how do you do that in the modern world with modern travel?
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you just ignore an entire continent and pretend it doesn't exist?
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot more difficult.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think one of the things that we need to consider here is
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I think the invasion of Islam there has been a big part of it too.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like Islam is not native to Africa.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: How many countries in Africa are Islamic?
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, look that up, blue.
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Islam is native to Saudi Arabia.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: not anywhere else actually it's spread from there like a fucking virus and when you take a developing country and you tell them that they are to accept authoritarian rule that they should surrender their lives to this thing and even die for it and that's the most important thing that will ever happen where you get some fucking low IQ bullshit don't you
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: his mausolem has the uh... in twenty and twenty seven countries she's just how many are there like fifty four fifty four okay so that's half yeah i'd like exactly half uh... which is wild so then you have to consider how to classify and a you're right look at that map he put up there yes it's trickling down from Saudi Arabia you have to consider
• 43:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like all of these countries were pagan, just like everybody else, by the way, right?
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were all pagan, Egyptians had all the Egyptian gods, et cetera, and...
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to like this this is the point in human history when we're this far divided from other civilizations even on our own planet when you have to start deciding What the classification is for an alien species and I don't mean alien and the terms of extraterrestrial is alien and general right that's not us
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Culture wise I'm a culturalist.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's like, I think racism's down, but culturalism is perfectly reasonable because it's something you choose.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, in the book, uh, Ender's Game, or the series Ender's Game, the author comes up with this ranking system basically, um,
• 43:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a classification for alien species.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there is Oot-Lonning, which is a human from the same planet, but a different nation or city.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then this fumbling, who is a human from a completely different planet, because they've colonized like the hundred worlds, I think they call it.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's ramen, which is a non-human sentient species capable of mutual understanding co-existence or communication.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're able to have a conversation with them and make treaties and stuff like this.
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there is Viralso, and that's a non-human sentient, or potentially sentient, species that's so alien that you cannot have a conversation with them, and it makes peace or dialogue completely unachievable.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in that case, you have to destroy them.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have to destroy them so they can't destroy you because that's what they'll do.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what animals do, right?
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's juror which is not sentient animals that have no rational thought.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, an animal's got, what's a dog's IQ, do you think?
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 45:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: 40, like a smart dog, 20 maybe.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: like compared to human being look if he ever had to type that in it's never had it never said it's but smart dog is roughly the equivalent of a two-year-old yeah so what is that uh... i mean i don't know i know i know i know i don't have an app you know like it's a really smart dog can remember like two hundred words or something like that i think i think a like a border collie can remember two hundred words
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can train the dog, right?
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, 165, 165 to 250 words.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, what's the number?
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: The IQ number.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's the IQ number for the dog?
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I got that.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you can give it an IQ because that's just a quotient question.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I checked my mind, and it was 30.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's too.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and how many words do you know?
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, probably the same.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyway, so they're in tells us levels out of a two-year-old.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: hard to negotiate with one.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's easy to negotiate with a dog that I fucking two-year-old.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you that.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're not able to negotiate in any meaningful sense, now if they're at a two-year-old level, then there's no conversation about who's in charge, right?
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if it's 68, now they can drive cars and fucking figure out how to fly planes and operate weapons and come to where you are, right?
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a problem.
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a problem for us, so what do you do, right?
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: If these people are indeed for Elsa, and I think Islam is for Elsa.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it is an alien culture that is impossible to negotiate with.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen that through all of history.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that map you showed Luke, go back to that with how much of it is Islamic.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's fucking wild here, because I'm looking at it.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is how quickly it is spread.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: How long and so the other 46% Islam and the whole entire continent of Africa is Islam, because this is going straight down.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, you can't be all the white South African farmers and all that shit are getting out of there.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like how long and so the whole continent is Islam.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, most of South Africa is Protestant for now.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Central Africa is mostly Catholic, but our UF is in Central Africa.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the craziest terror organizations in the world.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know what that means, anything.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing to be,
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: to think that God's going to smite you so you better say the right word is another thing to believe in Christian charity.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is it not, you know?
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I think we've got, in the point of all that was, is we have a mixed-max mismatch in culture.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: that is too such a great degree that that you have and I mean I've talked about this a month or two ago you have a couple of options wipe them out or enslave them right not not bringing them here right when I say enslave I mean like build a fence around and build it you guys figured out you got it we're gonna check back in 50 years
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you figured out how to get to space, you can come here.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: If not, fuck off, or if you've written, like if you've got your version of Epictetus or Polybius, okay, cool, you can come now, right?
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, how do you, why would you do that?
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you fucking, like if I came home from work today,
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my wife and kids were in the corner of the room and there was a wolf inside, a literal wolf.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was growling and snarling at them.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my wife was like, what the fuck get this wolf out of here?
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh no, that's, he's naturalized.
• 49:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's part of the house now.
• 49:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who the fuck would say that to their family?
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And meanwhile, we have people migrating here and stealing the birds from the park.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: We buy birds and put them in the park.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: See how it's different?
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't eat them, it's not the eat them, it's a look out of them, because it's nature and shit.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot mix, you cannot have multi-culturalism where one of the cultures is still in survival mode.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because people in survival mode have a different set of ethics.
• 49:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a fucking fact.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's an absolute fact that at a certain level of survival, you have a different set of ethics.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you cannot intermingle with that.
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: right and do we here's the other question do we have the right to tell them how they should live if they want to fucking cut each other's heads off and do crazy bullshit all the time should we go there and stop them and their country from doing it I would say no I would say no too and so I think that the process of people getting sick of that bullshit and good man figuring out that you have to be a good man all the time even if it costs you your life
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: and train your children and other people's children and other friends and whatever to be good men as well and to join that group.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: and fight against oppressive regimes, that whole process and the art and literature and military skills and courage that it produces are irreplaceable.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot give that to somebody.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have to develop it.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this.
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: All these other cultures, Japan was an honor-based culture, even though they were an empire, a feudal empire.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a matter of fact, a feudal empire is by definition, an honor-based culture, because your position is granted
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: in that regard, even though to some degree, they're hereditary, but Sam or I were not hereditary, not always.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Same thing in China, they had dynasties, there's some level of honor-based culture there, and at some point in Africa when they had empires, up until about 500 years ago, there was some honor-based culture there too, and we did, the Europeans did a lot of trade but them for a very long time.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But once that broke down,
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: everybody else kept moving forward and Africa went in the opposite direction.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went back to caveman.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, what is our responsibility exactly?
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good question to be honest.
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because again, and I hate to keep referring to this map, but like, this is our big issue with the Middle East.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, even I have said this for years, we don't care what happens with the Middle East.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could blow that whole fucking place up, right?
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if the entire continent turns Islamic, which
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like it is.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's where it's trending right there.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's all going down.
• 52:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you can ever save this continent.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it'll just keep getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you could, I think you could.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think, how would you go about doing it?
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sudan's the big problem, in my opinion, I know that sounds weird, but it's because of the placement, because of the geography.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like we could make a deal with Egypt, and we have, actually, after the Arab Spring, they kicked the muzzle and brother out.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we had something to do with that.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: and air trade, jibuting, even Ethiopia, we could negotiate with and Somalia, I think we should take, I, uh, jarred Michaels has been saying that for years.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do you mean by take?
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, take it.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I mean, you know, take it and make it a state or like, what do you mean?
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I mean, take it and make it a fucking occupied territory.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, uh, with an iron fist for 25 years.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: and spend.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would cost probably.
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I actually did some math on this about building ports and railways, industrial power, parks, housing, airports, tours facilities up and down the coast.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be about $300 billion at the low end to do that, which is not that much money over the course of 25 years, frankly.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not much at all.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: As a matter of fact, I think you get
• 53:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But why Somalia for the trade but because of the location of the court it's in the it's at the like it's full a fully accessible to the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean, which as far as trade goes between Africa and Asia or even to some degree Europe and Asia that's a great seaport to be I mean like good Jillians of dollars is it's right next to the
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... babble monday straight which is where yemen is attacking all the time right across from jibudi um... so but yet though i think we could get
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ethiopia and Egypt to play ball there because they're going to want to get some of that money.
• 54:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to want to have like for favored nation status through the port of Somalia, or the port of Trump is probably what it would be called because the Malfogra likes a name everything after himself.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Reported by America.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Port of America, whatever you want to call it.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they would want favored nation status.
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: because for obvious reasons, they make money.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sudan exports, sheeps and goats, livestock, crude petroleum, some stuff for plastics.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got all kinds of exports there.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: They make a shit ton of money, and then you let the military there figure it out.
• 55:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what would they?
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of terrorists in Sudan.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of crazy bullshit going on.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Their air trade wouldn't be a problem.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ethiopia probably wouldn't be a problem.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Djibouti, you'd definitely wouldn't.
• 55:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'd be your on board.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yemen and Sudan would be the big problem, because Yemen has houthi, and we would need Saudi Arabia to push through Yemen and take that country over.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: That would be the appropriate measure there.
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can't defend themselves.
• 55:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can't defend their own airport from the fields.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's your opinion on the Belt and Your Road Initiative?
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that it's interesting.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: How much should we care about that?
• 55:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, what do we stand to lose by China getting more powerful?
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is a good question.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Read off what it is, by the way, I don't know what that is.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Silk Road economic belt, it's, like, so this, do you know what the Silk Road is, you know what it is, right?
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like an ancient Asia to Africa, Southeast Asia, Indian, East Africa, Mediterranean, shipping port, basically.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was actually probably the most traffic shipping port in the world, and that's what Columbus was looking for.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was looking for something faster than Silk Road.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: to get to India, to trade goods.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is like kind of a new version, Chinese new version of it.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was in Nicaragua last year, and we, the little surface order I stayed at, they was right off of a road, which China had built.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: No shifts, yeah.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's our problem with it.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: If China had stuck to,
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: BRI, East, I guess we wouldn't care, but they tried to build it in South America too, which is why we took down Maduro because they were funding him, 50 some billion dollars down there.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the original, right?
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is like the Silk Road idea, but it's expanded.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that yellow line at the top, that's what Columbus was trying to defeat.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to go west until he got over to India over there, right?
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more or less.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yet, if China hadn't pushed into South America the way they did, and the only reason they were able to is because of the spread of communism by the Soviets back in the day.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if they hadn't done that, I don't think we would have taken much on bridge to be honest.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like there is some battle in Africa between Russia, China, the United States, about resources, for sure.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's been going on for a long time.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't hear anything about that now, right?
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every now and again, something will pop off but for the most part, that shit happens under the radar.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think, if the R.I. at state in the East, we wouldn't be talking about it.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, China's Belt and Road Initiative in Africa has reached record breaking levels with $33.5 billion invested in the first half of 2026 alone at 61.2 billion recorded across the full year of 2025.
• 58:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, because the interesting part to me, this is something you've said years and years ago on the show and it's kind of slowly coming to fruition is South America.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: If we could fix South America, you know, we get some other stuff and all their other shifts and help trade and everything else and these people wouldn't want to leave their continent and come up here and be illegals.
• 58:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now with Venezuela, you're seeing that happen, with El Salvador, you're seeing that
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: shit, just the other day.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you saw this.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: The, the, the presidents of, of El Salvador wants to go in a Haiti and wipe out those gangs as well and put them down there and seek out with, uh, with everybody else.
• 58:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Once, um,
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: With South America, we're willing to do that and we're actively trying to, well, shit, we are trading with them.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And now, you know, shit, everything is turning Republican essentially because USAID is gone.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're willing to help that, but not Africa.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, just too far away, geographically, too much money.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's also more competition, right?
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because of the minerals?
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 59:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, because of the geographical location.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: China can't, and we've seen it already.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: The South American countries fear us or like us, doesn't matter which, more than,
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: more than they fear or like China.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because any time like we slept on this for a while and let the shit go and then as soon as we got re-involved again in a major way with Rubio and Trump and all that China has had to back off pretty significantly, right?
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just don't have the resources to compete with us there.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Africa rather, it's a free for all.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's complete free for all that like most of these countries don't even have stable governments or ones that couldn't be replaced in a couple of weeks that's a bigger problem than what's going on and uh
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: in South America, it's just like you're dealing with independent places like most of the countries in South America have been like high functioning at some point or another and returning them to high functioning is quite a bit different than putting a high functioning system into an African country that's never had one.
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a completely different thing.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, but again, I think, you know, controlling Yemen, Saudi Arabia taking over Yemen completely would be the first step to that.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they could, they'd have to spend some of their literal trillions of dollars on a fucking functioning military for the first time.
• 1:00:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But they should do that, I don't understand.
• 1:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Matter of fact, they should invite Jordan and give Jordan half of Yemen.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then after we would take some all of that would be nice.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, take it completely.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the war would be insane.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: No one would ever support that.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't, it wouldn't be a war.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just not not involving us.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: fly some planes into Somali land and give them all the equipment they need to take down Somali, our take down Somalia and take complete control of that country.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we make Somali land a vassal state of the United States.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We start investing in that country and we get a dividend on the return and so on and so forth.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: some say, if not a lot of say in their border security, et cetera, right?
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Somali land is already like standing up there.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's technically, hang out, let me check this again.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so of the 20 million people in Somalia, six million of them are Somali land, right?
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: how many again?
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: 6 million out of the 20.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay and Somali land like Somalia's poor, right?
• 1:02:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like nearly really poor.
• 1:02:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, that's a doable thing.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a doable thing.
• 1:02:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Six versus 14 is an ideal, but with modern technology it's quite a bit, it's quite a bit more manageable, say that.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the average
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: militant or whatever is going to give up pretty fast.
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That would be my guess.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: But would we ever want to do that?
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't we?
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't we want the port of whatever in Mogadishu?
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: on the fucking Silk Road line that's been there for 2400 years.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's my point.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So then why have we never even bothered to take it?
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because America is so ashamed of its empire for some fucking reason.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Despite the fact that the empire of America has only done stuff that helped people for the most part.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like we stopped communism from taking over the world.
• 1:03:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh uh we stopped Nazis from taking over the world fuck off man like the uh America is an has been a force for good it makes mistakes like anybody else and it's subject to poor leadership just like any country ever would be but America broadly speaking is a force for good and it always has been we fucking ended slavery ended it.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: after England started that train in the early part of the 19th century.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: We ended it.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, fuck off.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I just, I don't know why people are so ashamed of that of us going to.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do we supposed to do?
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go somewhere, spend our lives and time and resources and get nothing in return for it.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every time this happens, the fucking leftist and twats and communists want you to feel bad about asking for anything and return for your life.
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: When you go fucking fix something, fuck you, man.
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 1:04:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You owe us something if we come there and help you, right?
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody does anything out of the goodness of their fucking heart.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we get kids back home too, they got to eat, right?
• 1:04:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just because we're on different levels economically right now, it doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to something for my efforts.
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is that we don't do that.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't commit to it in a real way.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the people that go over there are profiteers instead of people that are actually trying to do meaningful work in my opinion.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: like Bill Gates yeah Bill Gates pretty much all the private military companies
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, but as this continues, it's going to get worse and worse and worse, because like you said, they're going to be so far behind, technology wise, they are never be able to, they, yes, but there'll be so far behind technologically that their economies will never catch up, which means they're going to get in planes and fly their buildings or fly into our buildings that represent our economy, like the World Trade Center.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it works.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they hate us because they want to take down the U.S. Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're rich.
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 1:05:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:05:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They hate us because they ain't us.
• 1:05:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: As the last phrase I was expecting here this morning.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So how do we make, to bring it back to reimagining Africa?
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do we make our own Wakanda in Africa?
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, they tried, that's so A-Con tried this, okay?
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's here, that was his vision.
• 1:05:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: After that movie came out, was to do this.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you look at Mop, it was something like $2 billion is what they were raising.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Luke said, we, so I think he was referring to something else.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's call it America, right?
• 1:06:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, again, I just, I don't think personally.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: My personal stance on this is it's not possible.
• 1:06:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're just too far behind all these countries, like Dan was saying earlier, have their own fucking militias, it's dangerous, shit down there, and they're not just gonna give up and be like, oh yeah, come and help us.
• 1:06:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh great, school, schools mean nothing to it.
• 1:06:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they don't give a fuck.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the idea of Wakanda is one of the most insulting things I've ever heard of.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like imagine, who wrote that?
• 1:06:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: The movie?
• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be Stanley, right?
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe he just, it was Marvel.
• 1:06:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But hey, Luke, why he's looking that up?
• 1:06:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look up Acon in Africa.
• 1:06:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: They only built one building with the money and then they just bounced.
• 1:07:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was too fucking impossible.
• 1:07:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I remember that, yeah.
• 1:07:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so yeah, it was created by Stanley and Jack Kirby.
• 1:07:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So imagine,
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: looking at Africa.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And look, I know this is like, there's no fucking Tony Stark either, although Elon Musk is pretty close.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just hasn't built a suit for himself yet.
• 1:07:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I guarantee it's coming.
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's already got it.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would guarantee that motherfucker is working on some kind of fucking suit.
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Garen, too.
• 1:07:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But.
• 1:07:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no Captain America, white boy, cornfed from New York, who's got fucking, who's a met's fan or whatever the fuck.
• 1:07:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: The met's didn't exist back then.
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had to get it by the Yankees fan, I guess.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's all fantasy, but you look at Africa and there's not one functioning government there.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, hidden, you can't see it.
• 1:07:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's the fucking most advanced civilization in the history of the world.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get all the have the vibranium of course.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck off.
• 1:08:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: So this is what Acon tried to build.
• 1:08:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's say you would he sit on that thing?
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is a park on the left.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is that what they call a sitting spin?
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's curved.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's two of them.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's one for both holes.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think really is one of them sharp.
• 1:08:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't have the second hole, you'll get one.
• 1:08:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: The double penny sits right there.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then show what he actually built.
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Look, because this is really funny.
• 1:08:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then he was like, I'm God, I'm out of here.
• 1:08:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when they looked, you know, where the money was going and all that other shit questionable, but he did acknowledge like it was just fucking impossible to get any help there, that's what he ended up building.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: There it is, which look, is more than the railway that's Gavin News and Bill, and like, for real.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a bigger portion there, but like, he laughed out to that because it was fucking impossible.
• 1:08:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you fix this?
• 1:08:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I think this continent is completely unfixable, unintainable.
• 1:09:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that any Americans have any desire to send troops over there, believe me.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, Slives and all that other stuff.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about the belt and road initiative, I've seen some new segments about it.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure when they came from, but sometime within the last, you know,
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: five years, 10 years, something like that, and a big problem that they're running into is they'll set up the infrastructure and then the locals just pick it apart and take it all.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they have a hard time getting people to like, film.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if they're trying to ship something from point A to point B, they have to have like one of their own people essentially writing along with the driver to make sure they're not stopping somewhere along the way to offload a shitload of it to a bunch of their buddies.
• 1:09:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Taking the rest there.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they're they're fighting an upheld
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: which that joke writes itself, but like all of it, all of it was just next to impossible to do this over there, even though they own the land and all that other shits, because of exactly what you just said.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, basically the only way you could do it is clear off a piece of land entirely and bring in your own people and build a city and then put all the workers in that city, so they don't want for anything.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only way to do it because the the only way to expunge the urge to survive is to make survival a non-issue.
• 1:10:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 1:10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, it's what we do with ourselves as well.
• 1:10:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's what we do when we're raising our children or training somebody, when somebody goes into a panic state or something like that or your wife is stressed out, your job is to bring them out of the panic state,
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: immediately try to solve their problem.
• 1:10:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first thing you do is bring them back in like use Maslow's hierarchy to bring them back into a calm state.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you can't solve whatever problems are going on anyways.
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, it's like an immediate danger like a fucking lion or some shit like that.
• 1:10:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's how you're supposed to do it.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you do that for people that are not just poor, but objectively poor, that live on less than a dollar a day who have always been that way and think they always will.
• 1:11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: How long does it take them living in an actual nice area?
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice for their taste.
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to go build fucking half-nilly-dollar homes or anything like that.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But how long does it take them to adjust to that?
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two generations, probably.
• 1:11:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's why it takes hundreds of years for the shit to work.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It took hundreds of years for us, for it to work.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We brought people over here 400 years ago.
• 1:11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And within a generation, had kicked out the Quakers and fucking Lutherans out of an area and had to go form fucking Providence, Rhode Island, started stacking rocks on top of girls doing math because they were witches.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll do math, we're only bitch.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the best explanation of the witch trials I've ever heard.
• 1:12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly what?
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you do math?
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, honey.
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which?
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here.
• 1:12:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were fucking stupid savages just 400 years ago.
• 1:12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We figured out, yeah, but we figured it out in the land of plenty, you know, with running water everywhere.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit easier, I think.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, but that's a good question.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you figure that out?
• 1:12:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I look at Gaza.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go back to your point and how many years it would take and you're saying hundreds, I agree.
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at Gaza right now, and the more even I looked at this was,
• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: fucking Adam Brody that dude from the O.C.
• 1:12:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a new TV show.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a hit show on Netflix.
• 1:12:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to...
• 1:12:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: go through some issues here.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: He plays a rabbi and he's dating Kristen Bell.
• 1:12:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: In the show, and he's trying to convert her, he's a whatever they call their version of a preacher, what do you call it?
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for Jewish people, rabbi, rabbi, there you go.
• 1:12:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's a rabbi, and she's willing to convert to have this relationship, and he came out and said, yeah, like maybe four days ago, I think it's a genocide and Gaza, and was talking about the map and all that other stuff.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I looked at that map.
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I looked at what was going on there in the ruins and all that other stuff.
• 1:13:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, that's been going on for what three years.
• 1:13:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, God has been a shit hole forever.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but, but just even, and I hate to say this, but just knocking down the buildings and everything else.
• 1:13:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then eventually one day they'll rebuild.
• 1:13:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now whether or not they're going to wipe out all the people or not, I have no idea, anybody who screams death to America, I'm fine if that's what they want to do.
• 1:13:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: But even looking at this to your points, right?
• 1:13:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that you've got the before and after here.
• 1:13:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're still going to have to bring crews in, you know, knock all this other shit down and rebuilds and vests, everything else.
• 1:13:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this is a very small strip of land.
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are we talking about?
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: 30 miles.
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's five by five.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what?
• 1:13:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: 25?
• 1:13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a 25 square miles, yeah.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So 25 square miles.
• 1:14:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they wipe this out and continue to do what they do, and then they rebuild.
• 1:14:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's real pretty advanced.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I would say what, 50 years, maybe?
• 1:14:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think it'd be faster?
• 1:14:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: How quickly Israel could put some settlements there?
• 1:14:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be done in 15 years, 15 years.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK, completed in 15 years.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's just 25 miles worth of land.
• 1:14:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now you apply that logic to Africa.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fucking hell.
• 1:14:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who's going to put up with that for?
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: 100, 200 years, like you were saying.
• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Who would actually want to do it and put money into it lives, it would cost a lot of lives, just those motherfuckers and the jungles and all that other shit, like, I mean, you're in a whole different situation.
• 1:14:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I realized with drone warfare, it would be a little different, but it still be a fight to the death over there.
• 1:15:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And
• 1:15:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anybody willing to do it.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: If, obviously, the US, they would be massive pushback from citizens and everybody else.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think China would do it.
• 1:15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: They would rather just come to the BRI is, right?
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then, well, they just want to come in and take all the minerals, right?
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then get the fuck out of it.
• 1:15:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, they're investing in infrastructure, but not education.
• 1:15:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the problem.
• 1:15:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Their idea, I think the theory behind it, is that they're investing in infrastructure, which will then infuse money into the countries that they can have higher education.
• 1:15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Also, it creates more industries for them so that they can do more trade and it benefits China that in that way.
• 1:15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why aren't they educating them now?
• 1:15:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because they expect the countries to go with themselves, which isn't going to happen.
• 1:15:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's never happened historically.
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it always has to be the colonizing nation that sets up the higher education facilities.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if we're not going to do it, China's not going to do it.
• 1:16:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I personally think Russia doesn't really have anything other than Nukes.
• 1:16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's really worth the shit.
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they got their own oil and everything else, but I don't think they have the capability to...
• 1:16:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we, I mean, USAID, you know, that's kind of with schools.
• 1:16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: They open schools and stuff, right?
• 1:16:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like, who knows, that whole organization was full of so much fraud.
• 1:16:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that it will ever get a real answer.
• 1:16:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it was some of the reasons.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was mainly for soft power, right?
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now it didn't evolve like, you know.
• 1:16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: My opinion of USAID was that they would give the country's fish, but they would not give them the fishing pole.
• 1:16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 1:16:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they were constantly... Yeah, that's because they only eat one of them to eat the one kind of fish, blue, and it was communist fish.
• 1:16:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Red fish.
• 1:16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but if it's not the two of us, or some combination of that, because I don't think there's a world in which...
• 1:17:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of wish we would.
• 1:17:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... join up with with let's say china or rush uh... just kind of take over the whole world of whatever right but uh... there's no world much that would happen to go down and colonize africa uh... so then what's left nothing i just don't think that you can re-imagine this country to go back to the the topic in hand here i i don't know how to do it uh... and i think it's just going to get worse over time and muslim
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Muslims will spread all the way down at the bottom.
• 1:17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think white people will eventually be gone from that continent.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if they're smart.
• 1:17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just going to be this endless cycle of shit.
• 1:17:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, just a fucking shithole.
• 1:17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, again, the friends that we've had go over there have also the same thing.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful.
• 1:17:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, it's rad-devisit.
• 1:17:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would never fucking live there.
• 1:17:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and most of them are hunters.
• 1:18:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we want to go down and hunt big game or whatever it is, and all that other shit, but I go, hey, would you consider living there?
• 1:18:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, fun trip for six or seven days, kill a bunch of cool shit, but that's it.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: So do you think it'll ever be fixed?
• 1:18:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't need that.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 1:18:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think it will.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, I mean, it's interesting because you think of that about cities sometimes, but South Chicago will be gentrified at some point.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it'll happen because North was.
• 1:18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somebody's gonna go and do it.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: At some point, South Chicago will be gentrified and joined with the South suburbs, and it'll be one contiguous city.
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just how the growth and development works when who knows right when somebody the question is when will somebody have a financial incentive to do it when will somebody have a financial incentive to To not Care about the violence in Africa
• 1:19:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because right now, you just pay up PMC, a private military contractor, Wagner Group, or Eric Prince, to go over there and fucking do security or whatever, right?
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But at what point does that well dry up?
• 1:19:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:19:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: If private businesses are willing to spend the money, at what point does it make sense to try to actually secure the place and then more importantly than that, give them the tools to secure themselves.
• 1:19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: don't take this the wrong way but maybe black people should go back to Africa.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not all of them just all the black dudes that have served in the military go take over one African country right quick.
• 1:19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll actually I know a guy who's in the royal family in Gambia.
• 1:19:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was in my fucking unit in the 80s.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: He'd be happy to go with you and take over Gambia.
• 1:19:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: We used to talk about all the time actually and I know a couple white boys it would be perfectly willing to help
• 1:20:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: turned into Mungrovia, Sierra Leone and fucking, yeah, it's not, it's not great, but that was a long time ago, right?
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Westernized Protestant Western, uh,
• 1:20:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Black dudes that fucking love freedom, you know what I mean?
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And are willing to die for something they believe in, what are the kill for something they believe in?
• 1:20:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not just because they're hopped up on cotton and have no other options.
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That would be interesting.
• 1:20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: If like fucking 50,000 black dudes that served in the US military, we're like, you know what, we're gonna go take over one of these countries and make it nice and then fucking immediately sign a fucking trade agreement with America.
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be fucking sweet, you'd be heroes.
• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be heroes, not just to the people there, but to the people here as well, frankly.
• 1:20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:20:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you actually have to want to do it.
• 1:20:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know plenty of dudes that want to do it.
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just a matter of the money that would a cost do, something like that.
• 1:21:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm saying, there's no financial incentive to improve Africa.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's, because once you improve it, all the cheap shit you're getting there, costs more.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: You might be able to get more of it.
• 1:21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it might cost you, somebody's doing the math on this.
• 1:21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's doing the math like,
• 1:21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have to pay African's ex because of the security that we've created there.
• 1:21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: How much more is that then it is for private military companies and insurance payouts reduced dying.
• 1:21:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if that second number is less than the first number, there will never be security in Africa ever.
• 1:21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: the end.
• 1:21:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what we thought yesterday.
• 1:21:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we put some thought into this last night for real.
• 1:21:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just don't, I don't see how to change it.
• 1:21:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really don't.
• 1:21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know, Bonno did a great job.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do they know it's Christmas after all, I think that's song.
• 1:21:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Helps a lot of those kids.
• 1:22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and you too, for Christmas, I think they give them, you know.
• 1:22:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: and I like a soccer ball or something like that, that was fun.
• 1:22:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Give them one of their songs.
• 1:22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's great.
• 1:22:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now's the one to show.
• 1:22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: We get to the drinking bro of the week.
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: You could submit on drinkingbrows.com.
• 1:22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Brobox on fire.
• 1:22:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do we sold out last month?
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this month is a panger-doot.
• 1:22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is all themed for November and December.
• 1:22:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've already made the December box as well over there.
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's fucking awesome, dude.
• 1:22:34
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• 1:22:35
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• 1:22:38
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• 1:22:41
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• 1:22:49
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• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And droids, right now we're making the transition into video.
• 1:22:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if it's a little buggy here and there,
• 1:23:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: We were very, very close.
• 1:23:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard, but I've seen the interface and a few of you guys have beta tested it.
• 1:23:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like Netflix.
• 1:23:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to be awesome when it turns on, but man, that should it's hard.
• 1:23:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we're working on that right now.
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's see who we got here.
• 1:23:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody else fall through the couch cushions back in the day?
• 1:23:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
• 1:23:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got a message from somebody who was just like, dude, that one you read like four months ago.
• 1:23:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe you fucking found that and thank you.
• 1:23:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh shit dude, it's cool.
• 1:23:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if I can, I can find one more here.
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is that feel bad?
• 1:23:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I'll open them and then I'll say it's red and I'm like, oh shit dude, sorry about that.
• 1:23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I accidentally skipped you.
• 1:23:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've tried this yet, but if you go to the search bar and type in no reply or submission.
• 1:23:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, not that's what I got.
• 1:24:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
• 1:24:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.
• 1:24:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
• 1:24:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is what we want to send this September 17th.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:24:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a month ago.
• 1:24:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I apologize.
• 1:24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not bad.
• 1:24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: 813 AM.
• 1:24:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: is what it was sent in.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So thank you very much.
• 1:24:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dringabro submission is from David R. from North Carolina.
• 1:24:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been a listener for seven years.
• 1:24:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: The veteran van project, my initiative.
• 1:24:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh shit.
• 1:24:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, I just read about you.
• 1:24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You were in Dringabro's main.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like,
• 1:24:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: the private Facebook group either.
• 1:24:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just read about this.
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Living says he wants to nominate us.
• 1:24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I should Ross and Dan.
• 1:24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jens can't tell you how much this podcast means to his here at the center of the universe having struggled in the past and recent with my own mental demons.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm determined to find a new way to reach just one struggling vet or family member by passing the bullshit bureaucracy.
• 1:25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're often faced with if you'll just take a look and share my goal.
• 1:25:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be most grateful if you don't think it's worthy that's fair.
• 1:25:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still a poo-yah!
• 1:25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: From the DZ.
• 1:25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cheers, boys.
• 1:25:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I'm on here right now, actually.
• 1:25:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: We still have everybody's sent in the thing, all right, so it is help build the veteran van for Fort Bragg, and that's what's a look for under GoFundMe.
• 1:25:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just started here, yeah, the same person, there we go.
• 1:25:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, you can donate now.
• 1:25:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's only looking for nine grand.
• 1:25:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: just helping out veterans in the Fort Bragg area here.
• 1:25:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the van.
• 1:25:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah dude check him out over there and I'm sorry I missed this a month ago But again if I click it and don't hit the not red shit or or whatever the fuck it is
• 1:25:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: read it.
• 1:25:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mark is on read.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: We would ever, yeah, too.
• 1:26:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, all right, cool.
• 1:26:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I apologize.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I found it in the cushions today.
• 1:26:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we love you.
• 1:26:06
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• 1:26:09
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• 1:26:13
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• 1:26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we'll release the video next week.
• 1:26:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's Sunday night?
• 1:26:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Blue, eight o'clock, yesterday.
• 1:26:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds good to me.
• 1:26:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
• 1:26:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: uh... video be up uh... on spotify over there uh... and please just keep writing the shows and reviewing it all that stuff like for real it's all the advertised care about's for the internet and all the way i'm ross paterson this is the drinking bros patias good night everyone there's nothing but a hundred men or more where do you feel that right now