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Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 10) (7/25/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  Speaker 1: where we left off with Doug Band and his interview
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  Speaker 1: with Congress mister Grant, mister Burlison, mister Burlison, asking the questions. Now,
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  Speaker 1: mister Band, who is Mark Middleton? Mister Band, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Mister Burlison. You worked
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  Speaker 1: in the White House? Correct band, Yes, sir Burlison, Mark Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: You don't recall a gentleman named Mark Middleton working for
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  Speaker 1: the Clintons band, I mean, I vaguely remember the name,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know who Mark Middleton is. So even
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  Speaker 1: in all this reporting, you haven't heard the name Mark Middleton.
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  Speaker 1: When Epstein visited the White House seventeen times, most of
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  Speaker 1: those visits were with a Mark Middleton. Band, I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall knowing who that is. You know, again, a vague
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  Speaker 1: recollection of the name Burlison. It's not the West Wing,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a huge office complex. Shapiro, he wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: at the time, as he just testified, mister Burlson, mister Middleton,
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  Speaker 1: and so on, your knowledge in your relationship with the Clintons.
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  Speaker 1: The name never came up. Band, I didn't say the
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  Speaker 1: name never came up. I just said, I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: who that is or recall who that was, mister Burlison,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. I don't have any other questions. Mister Harnice
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  Speaker 1: is once again asking the questions question mister band. In
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and five, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began
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  Speaker 1: investigating mister Epstein. In July of two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein was arrested for the first time for soliciting
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  Speaker 1: prostitution from minors. When did you first learn of Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's two thousand and six arrest Answer, I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: when I first learned of it. Question do you know
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  Speaker 1: how you might have first learned about this through the
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  Speaker 1: news reporting? Answer? I don't want to speculate because I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember, but I assume through news reporting. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember anything specific about learning of it, mister Grant,
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  Speaker 1: And you would have learned of it at the time
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  Speaker 1: or somewhere around the time, band, I don't know, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was probably reading news reports. Yes. Question
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  Speaker 1: and when did you become aware that mister Epstein served
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  Speaker 1: jail time beginning in two thousand and eight. Answer, I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall when I became aware of that. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really have a relationship with him. Question, but you
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  Speaker 1: did become aware of his arrest in jail time? Answer
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  Speaker 1: I remember being aware of it. I don't recall when
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  Speaker 1: I became aware of it. Did you ever discuss the
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  Speaker 1: arrest or jail time with mister Epstein with anyone at
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  Speaker 1: the time? Answer not that I recall, grant. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know who would have made you aware of his arrest
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  Speaker 1: and subsequent time incarcerated? Ban as I said, No, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't remember when who anything. Question. After learning about
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  Speaker 1: the initial arrest of mister Epstein, did you have any
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  Speaker 1: concerns about this? Answer? I don't recall having concerns or
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  Speaker 1: not concerns. He wasn't someone that I knew or engaged
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  Speaker 1: with frequently. And again I don't remember whether he was
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  Speaker 1: part of a friend of President Clinton or not at
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  Speaker 1: that point. But no, I don't remember having any. Question
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  Speaker 1: but you and respectively President Clinton did have a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with them when you learned about this. I'm just asking
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  Speaker 1: if you were concerned at all about your relationship and
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  Speaker 1: then now this arrest. Did you have any concerns at
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  Speaker 1: that time about this? Answer? Well, as I said, as
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  Speaker 1: it relates to me, I had very limited relationship with them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember having concerns or not having concerns. Question
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  Speaker 1: when did you find out about the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: eight non prosecution agreement with mister Epstein? Answer I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't recall when I learned
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  Speaker 1: of it. Question what was your understanding of what mister
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  Speaker 1: Epstein had admitted to or been convicted of? Answer I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember or recall what he admitted to or had
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  Speaker 1: been convicted of. Question and when did you become aware
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  Speaker 1: of mister Epstein's status as a sex offender? Answer I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember when. Question mister Bant, have you ever been
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  Speaker 1: contacted by law enforcement entity in regard to mister Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or Miss Maxwell? Answer no question with the benefit of hindsight,
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  Speaker 1: were there things that you witnessed or herved about mister
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or Miss Maxwell that could have suggested they were
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  Speaker 1: trafficking and sexually abusing young women or girls? Answer no question.
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  Speaker 1: Did mister Epstein or Miss Maxwell ever attempt to blackmail you?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no question? Did they ever try to threaten you.
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, question, so they did not threaten to expose
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  Speaker 1: any personal information that you may have had. Answer no. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that miss Maxwell was using you in
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  Speaker 1: order to get closer to President Clinton or any other
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  Speaker 1: member of the Clinton family? Answer I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question looking back now, do you have
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  Speaker 1: any concerns that you thought miss Maxwell may have been
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  Speaker 1: trying to use your relationship with the Clintons in order
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  Speaker 1: to get closer to the family. Answer as I've said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You'd have to ask her. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question why do you think miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get close to you, wanted to build a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with you? Answer I have no idea. Question in emails,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of which we have discussed and looked at today,
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  Speaker 1: seems that Miss Maxwell always wanted to do something or
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  Speaker 1: provide something for you. Do you know why this was?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, I don't. Question do you think it was
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  Speaker 1: just our attempt to get close to a powerful connected people.
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  Speaker 1: Answer you know, As I said, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's possible. Sure. Question. Throughout the investigation, it seems
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  Speaker 1: that mister Epstein and miss Maxwell would try to exert
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of people's personal information in order to curry favor
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  Speaker 1: with powerful figures across the globe. Looking back, were there
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  Speaker 1: any signs that miss Maxwell or mister Epstein used your
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  Speaker 1: relationship in order to curry favor with powerful figures that
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  Speaker 1: you knew? Answer no question. I just want to jump
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  Speaker 1: back to the two thousand and two Africa trip. It's
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  Speaker 1: reported that Redacted gave President Clinton a next massage. Do
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  Speaker 1: you recall this? Answer? No, I do not. Question. So
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  Speaker 1: you had no knowledge at the time of President Clinton
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  Speaker 1: receiving a massage from redacted? Answer no question. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever seen the photo of redacted providing President Clinton the massage? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I've seen the photo as it came out recently. We're
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  Speaker 1: in the last year or two. Question outside of preparation
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  Speaker 1: for this interview. When was the last time you saw
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  Speaker 1: the photo? Answer when it became public. Question And you
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  Speaker 1: did not receive any massage on this trip in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and two? Answer? I didn't receive any massage on
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  Speaker 1: this trip forever mace. So you've never received a massage
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  Speaker 1: before ever in your life? Band I've had one massage.
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  Speaker 1: It was a couple's massage with my wife that I recall.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, Mace. Were you familiar with any of the
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  Speaker 1: massage therapists that were hired or used to travel with
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  Speaker 1: or hung out with Glenn Maxwell or Jeffrey Epstein mister
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  Speaker 1: band No, ma'am, mister Harneice asking the questions now. Question,
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  Speaker 1: I know that I've asked you about the Vanity Fair
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  Speaker 1: article where it stated that you had bad vibes from
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  Speaker 1: the trip. Was Ron Berkele on the trip to Africa? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: No question? Was he not on this trip? Answer not
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  Speaker 1: that I recall no question. We have flight logs showing
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  Speaker 1: that mister Berkele was on that two thousand and two
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  Speaker 1: trip to Africa. Did you not interrupt interact with mister Burkele. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't. As I said earlier, I don't recall
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  Speaker 1: the trip. I don't recall him being there. Question, mister
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  Speaker 1: Burkele had a pretty bad experience. He caught a pretty
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  Speaker 1: bad vibe as well as you call it, or as
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  Speaker 1: you stated to Vanity Fair. But you have no knowledge
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  Speaker 1: mister Burkele ever having a creepy or odd feeling about
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein. Answer not that I recall. No. Mister Grant,
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  Speaker 1: did you discuss mister Epstein with mister Burkele at any point,
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  Speaker 1: mister Band, No, not that I don't recall discussing it
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  Speaker 1: with him. Possible, but I don't remember it. Grant, and
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  Speaker 1: same question for Miss Maxwell. Did you discuss Miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: with mister Burkele at any point? Mister Band Again, as possible,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't recall discussing it. No, mister Harness. Question
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  Speaker 1: jumping around, did miss Maxwell ever offer to lend you
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  Speaker 1: a private plane or any private aircraft that she owned
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  Speaker 1: for you to watch the two thousand and six NCUBA
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  Speaker 1: Men's basketball Finals. Answer? I don't remember the specifics of that.
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  Speaker 1: In preparation for today, I recall reading the email where
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  Speaker 1: there was back and forth and I was asking her
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  Speaker 1: to chart her a plane, and she offered again, as
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  Speaker 1: best as I can recall without looking at the email,
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  Speaker 1: and I said something to the effect that if I
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  Speaker 1: can't pay for it, then I'm not going to take it,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't question. So you declined miss Maxwell's offer? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: Based on those emails that I've read in preparation for today, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I declined her offer and I did not take the plane.
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  Speaker 1: Question why do you think miss Maxwell offered you this plane. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You'd have to ask miss Maxwell Emmer.
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  Speaker 1: Did you recall receiving any other offers to fly on
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  Speaker 1: mister Epstein's plane? And again, it's possible, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall any. No question. Did you have any role in
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  Speaker 1: the White House Historical Association during your time in the
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  Speaker 1: Clinton administration? Answer no, I don't believe so. Question So
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  Speaker 1: you did not attend any White House Historical Association events? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have attended any on my own or been
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  Speaker 1: part of that. I'm on my own. I was a staffer.
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  Speaker 1: If President Clinton went to something and I accompanied him,
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  Speaker 1: staffing him, then I guess it's possible, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall anything or having any involvement with them whatsoever. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know where they are housed or operate or anything.
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  Speaker 1: Question were you aware of mister Epstein's ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: donation to the White House Historical Association? Answer? No. Question
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  Speaker 1: Touching a little bit on the Clinton Global Initiative, when
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  Speaker 1: did you cease employment at the Clinton Global Initiative? Answer well,
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  Speaker 1: I never worked for the Clinton Global Initiative. I worked
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  Speaker 1: for President Clinton in his personal office. The Clinton Global
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  Speaker 1: Initiative was one of the things, and as I said,
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  Speaker 1: my best recollection is that I left in the first
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  Speaker 1: half of twenty twelve. Question twenty twelve, So how many
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  Speaker 1: Clinton Global Initiative conferences would you say that you attended
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  Speaker 1: during this time of work? Answer? You know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember all of them. I guess if it started in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and five and then ended in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: I went to all of those, and it's possible I
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  Speaker 1: went after mister Shapiro. You left in twenty twelve. BAND
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  Speaker 1: left entirely, mister Shapiro. It didn't end, mister Band correct, Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I left in twenty twelve. CGI kept going. I may
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  Speaker 1: have attended one or two afterward. I don't really remember.
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  Speaker 1: I believe my colleague in the previous hour touched upon
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  Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell's involvement with CGI and the Clinton Foundation. Is
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  Speaker 1: that correct? Did you take part in any budget discussion
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  Speaker 1: with Miss Maxwell regarding the Clinton Foundation or CGI? Answered no,
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  Speaker 1: not that I recall. Question are you aware of any
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  Speaker 1: donation made to the Clinton Foundation or CGI from Miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell or mister Epstein? Answer you know again, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: aware of it at the time, but in preparation today
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  Speaker 1: having seen the emails, it seems as though she was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall having anything to do with her being
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  Speaker 1: a part of it at all. Question. Did miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: ever have a close relationship with anybody else inside the
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  Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Global Initiative, mister Shapiro, other
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  Speaker 1: than mister band You mean mister Harneice, other than mister
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  Speaker 1: band Doug Band, I don't know. I mean she could
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  Speaker 1: have had relationships with lots of people. I don't know. Question, So,
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  Speaker 1: you never had a conversation with other Clinton Foundation staffers,
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  Speaker 1: anybody working at CGI about Miss Maxwell. Mister Band, I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall having conversations. It's certainly possible. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: recall having them. Question So, mister Band, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure I have the timeline that's clearer for
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  Speaker 1: the record. I believe in your opening statement you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: you sent a memo or a notice throughout the Clinton
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  Speaker 1: world basically to cease their connections with Miss Maxwell. Is
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  Speaker 1: that correct? Answer? I sent the email to senior members
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  Speaker 1: of the staff to remover from all contact lists, which
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  Speaker 1: was an attempt to remover from President Clinton's world entirely. Yes, question,
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  Speaker 1: and that was in twenty eleven. Answer yes, sir. Question
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  Speaker 1: and then you subsequently stopped working for President Clinton by
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  Speaker 1: extension of that the foundation and see in twenty twelve
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  Speaker 1: you said, Answer sometime in twenty twelve. Again, just to
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  Speaker 1: be clear, I never worked for CGI. Question understood, And
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  Speaker 1: are you aware that miss Maxwell attended a CGI event
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  Speaker 1: and was honored in twenty thirteen. Answer? I'm only aware
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  Speaker 1: of it as it relates to having seen the reporting
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  Speaker 1: on it at some point in the past few years.
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  Speaker 1: Question You were not aware of that in twenty thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: Answer I did not work there. In twenty thirteen, question
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  Speaker 1: you didn't keep up with CGI and the work that
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  Speaker 1: you would help start. Answer no. Question does this concern
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  Speaker 1: you now looking back, that she was able to recognize
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  Speaker 1: or be recognized at a CGI event in twenty thirteen
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  Speaker 1: after you had tried to remove her from the Clinton orbit?
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  Speaker 1: Answer well, again, all I can tell you is that
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  Speaker 1: I took the step to write an email to have
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  Speaker 1: her removed from all the lists and therefore removed from
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  Speaker 1: the Clinton world. What happened after that is not I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Question understood, But I mean it's a big step to
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  Speaker 1: take to remove somebody from the Clinton orbit and have
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  Speaker 1: them not be involved anymore. This was work that I
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  Speaker 1: would say you were intimately involved with. So knowing that
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  Speaker 1: what you know now looking back that she was honored
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  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, is that not disturbing to you? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: You know, again, all of their activities are incredibly disturbing
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  Speaker 1: and horrific and evil to me. But I again, I
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  Speaker 1: left in twenty twelve, so her involvement in what was
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  Speaker 1: going on then and what decisions they made I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: part of. I didn't have anything to do with it.
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  Speaker 1: So I really don't know. Mister Shapiro. Just for the
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  Speaker 1: clarity of the record, I think you used they and
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  Speaker 1: there in two different ways. All of their behavior was evil.
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  Speaker 1: There in the sentence was band Epstein and Maxwell Shapiro. Okay, Band, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Counselor question, do you have any knowledge of
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell or mister Epstein ever sending a gift to
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton? Answer? I don't have any knowledge or recall
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  Speaker 1: them ever doing that. Again, it's possible, I just don't remember,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So if we're gonna wrap up right here
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  Speaker 1: and the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick up where we left off. All the information that
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