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Annihilationism, Abortion, Gene Splicing Evolution, Brain Dead, Big Bang, Bad Movies, Classic Games · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Brett Keen.
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  your computer anything that has internet access God bless
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  Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, this is Brett Keen
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  from God TV radio, I got bored. And I noticed that nobody else
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  knows how to open a live stream and put out a public link.
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  So, here we are. What's going on?
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  There goes man, you gonna play some loud noises.
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  The mayor, Ghost man, you gonna have to click out of whatever
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  garbage you're listening to. So I don't hear the sound in the
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  background. Okay, so goes men.
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  What's going on today? What's up?
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  Are you here to have a conversation or just water about
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  that? Where you going to Squad as
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  normal? Or we're going to have a
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  conversation? Well, come on.
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  There it goes, man. What's been going on with your
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  day? Tell me something.
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  Spit it out. How are you today?
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  I'm a little tired bored. Try to look for some mental
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  stimulation. I typed in a live shows chat
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  stream yards. Everything you could think of
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  trying, to find something fun to do and some people to talk to,
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  but my goodness, it seems like nobody knows how to open a live
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  stream unless you want to play me.
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  Music or crappy streaming video games or something like that.
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  Oh that's horrible. So I figured I'd give people an
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  opportunity. If there are people who want to
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  participate him conversation or do something up, what are you
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  been doing? Are you going to actually have a
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  conversation? So much there?
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  You having some kind of delay you need to reload or whatever
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  you're doing back there. It's called.
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  Yeah, oh, Geez. All right, so he's obviously not
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  knowing how to work his computer.
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  That's too bad. It is the year 2023.
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  We got anybody out there that would like to have a
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  conversation or talk. I am here.
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  I'd love to be able to have a discussion with people.
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  Did you fix your shit? Did you turn off the crap in the
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  background? You still lagging.
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  Oh geez, this guy's unbelievable.
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  Fix your shit and get back to me.
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  I do we have anybody out there? That knows how technology Works.
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  Anybody knows how to use their Mike knows how to actually pay
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  for good performance on their modem.
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  Somebody's not running a hanger from a shed to get their
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  reception cheese goes fan. If you got to come into my room,
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  make sure you have your equipment fixed.
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  You know, that annoys me. Let's see what's happening out
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  there. We'll see if we got any money to
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  go. Look around on YouTube.
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  See if there's anything to look at because I am bored to death.
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  I need some conversation. I need some mental stimulation.
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  You ever get that way where you're so damn bored.
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  You just feel like cracking your head out the cement goodness, I
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  went over to a couple of atheist channels.
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  There was one that was streaming, but the guy he just
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  wanted to cry about how he was brainwashed as a child.
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  And to Christianity, I was sat there for 15 minutes listening
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  to that and then he only allows one other person to come in and
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  then they both start whining. I was boring as piss.
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  What's going on? Your ghost man.
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  Did you fix it? Yeah.
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  I was on my phone and some reason it's not loud me to hear
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  anything when I'm so remember that, make sure in the future
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  that you get on your computer in order to be able to talk to me
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  because every time you come in like that you're playing
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  background music and noise. And I'm sitting there saying
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  hello, hello everybody home and you don't respond, it's kind of
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  annoying. I'll sorry about that.
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  Have you? What's up?
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  What What new game you've been like playing?
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  Well I have been really playing anything of late.
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  I played Red Dead Redemption and I got it going to Premier with
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  my son but nowadays it doesn't seem like there's very many
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  enjoyable games. I tried to get back in the World
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  of Warcraft that blue goat balls.
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  I tried getting in the fall out again, 76.
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  It's just terrible. It's a lazy asking where it's
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  just filled with events, not actual questing, So I'm waiting
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  for Starfield, I'm really excited.
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  Unfortunately, they said it's only going to release probably
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  around March or June, so that's breaks my heart.
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  I guess I'm gonna have to wait. Make more stupid videos for
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  YouTube and deal with more idiots in live streams and all
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  that. I'm just bored today, man.
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  So what about you? What kind of video games you
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  playing? Besides Fortnight?
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  I like I had the super system where I play all kinds of games
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  on there. Like, Doom, Duke Nukem.
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  All kinds of old school games. Or are you like to you like the
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  older games? Huh?
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  Yeah, that's fair enough. Fair enough.
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  You ever play the Call of Duty's?
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  Well, the military type games. Hey, whereas illusion, we got
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  somebody out here says, hello saw yet.
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  Boss bitches. I'm Raz said like glass.
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  Okay, well if you'd like to come in the link is out there in the
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  comments, just bring the microphone set simple.
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  As far as Call of Duty goes that's too fast paced of the
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  game, and I've got bad eyesight. I usually play like turn-based
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  RPGs or civilization type of Games where you're able to, like
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  really concentrate on what you're doing as opposed to like
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  running through things and trying to kill Things fall out.
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  I can play that because you can do Vats and you can actually
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  freeze the enemies and shoot them.
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  But yeah. And you also got companions to
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  help you out when your eyesight's not so good.
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  Yeah. I want to.
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  Yeah, just add her game that came out of fault.
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  Bad All Saints Row reboot. Oh yeah, I tried that in the
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  past. Yeah.
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  It's kind of like a copycat of Grand Theft Auto.
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  Isn't it? Gave it a shot?
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  I don't know. I'm, I like storyline games.
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  I like where I get to create my own character and be able to
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  Adventure and explore. That's what I'm into.
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  And I'm playing video games. Well, that what you did was the
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  funniest video ever made videos that we tackle crazy, guys, Aces
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  experience. It was just because they keep a
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  nice of people. Stupid question ball mounts yet.
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  He told me, her sexiest man alive, arouses far as says
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  Fallout 76, when he put that up from school.
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  So as far as 76 is rough on the ammo, you have to really spread
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  out, weapon usage as well. Collect lots of junk to
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  fabricate enough ammo. Well, that's the thing with me.
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  I usually have a preset idea of what type of character I'm going
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  to be and what kind of weapon I'm going to use mostly.
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  So I usually get an overabundance of bullets.
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  And then, while I'm using that overabundance of bullets and
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  collecting bullets off the creatures, I just simply, you
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  know, put them all in my little box and I'm good to go.
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  Go. What is that damn thing called
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  again the stash box? Yeah.
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  If all are suddenly six, it just doesn't feel very, it doesn't
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  feel like it's got any solar personality like Fallout 4 or
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  Vegas, or the original, Fallout 3.
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  Just, there's nothing to it. You're fighting the same dogs
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  and the same goblins and mutants and all that kind of stuff.
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  It doesn't feel like anything's happening, wasn't like this
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  weird lag when you're shooting. At like, you'll hit something
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  dead on and it'll just stand there.
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  I killed these. What are they called this?
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  The sporn door to scorned or something like that.
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  There, these creatures that look like feral ghouls, but they got
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  like crystals hanging out of them.
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  I forget what they're called, but every time I kill one of
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  these Pricks, they end up being frozen like, in midair whenever
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  I do it, physically. Terrible, and it damn game which
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  one We start out as a baby. Oh, that's Fallout 3 with
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  thallium Nielsen. I love that.
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  Damn game. Love it.
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  When you start out and he does he reads the Bible to you?
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  And then send you out into the Wasteland?
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  It's pretty cool. I'll fight that one else.
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  Oh, think I play any other ones, but you have repaid Mafia Well
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  Mafia is not one in type of games.
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  You can really construct or create a character I like games,
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  like Fallout in The Sims and turn-based games because you can
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  create Companions and mods and you know really make a character
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  for yourself that you're into. Yeah.
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  If you're going to play like one of these big-ass long MMO's, you
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  want a character that looks like yourself for something that
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  really goes along with your fantasy Saints, Roald Dahl,
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  Original games, you can design your own character.
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  Right. Right.
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  People I did put the link out. If you'd like to come in and
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  chat, I was hoping that a boss. Bitch was going to be able to
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  make her way over here. I met some new people today and
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  they seemed like they were pretty cool.
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  It was the only room I went into like three other rooms and they
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  all freaked out because someone was actually in their chat, they
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  put a link out, they say, come on in.
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  I went into three people's room and they said, look, you booked
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  you and then kick me out. I'm like, wow, this is crazy
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  shit. Shit.
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  And finally, a room allowed me in and I met boss, man, and his
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  young lady by the name of Dutch and they seemed like, they were
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  really cool. Yeah.
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  But you notice that I don't know if you noticed ghost man but if
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  you go to the category or and YouTube of live chats, it's
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  horrible. There's not much variety.
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  It's just all people play in trance or techno music or
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  squalling on the mic without allowing anybody to come in to
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  talk. No wonder my Rules.
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  Whenever I do is show at night, they get so popular, man.
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  People just want to hang out and talk.
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  James, are you going to come in and chat?
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  Are you going to just sit there and talk about Fallout 76 up in
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  the text yet? I opened the room because I want
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  to hear some humans actually speaking.
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  What's funny, right? Oh hard to go over to GE manias
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  Chad. I wanted to talk to him but he
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  was crying on the mic about how he was brainwashed and abused by
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  being told to Christianity. Might have some truth to it.
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  So it was like shit. That's terrible news, ma'am.
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  Let me up in here and let's talk about it a little bit.
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  I'm here for you, I got it here but he only let one of the guy
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  in and that all that guy does is whine and cry too.
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  It's like AA man. Just just stab me in the neck
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  already owe you every no mods. We like if they did a mod on one
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  will fall have unn that character.
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  You o, people have made mods and stuff like that, where I've
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  actually done voice-overs for my own character.
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  And I also got to do voice overs for people who are creating new
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  quest for Fallout 4. I've done a lot of that if you
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  go The Nexus mods, go to Fallout 3, or Skyrim or Fallout 4 and
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  type. In Brett Keen, man, I'm on a lot
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  of mods. I did a lot of it for free too
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  because I love those games and people wanted to, hey, James,
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  how you doing? What's going on?
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  There are you handsome fella, you back at your breath?
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  Thank you. I'm not trying to hate or anger
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  Mania, hope you taking it like that, but I don't like sitting
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  there for 30 minutes waiting to get into a room and then the
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  person just says the hell with. I'm only going to bring like one
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  person and it's like what happened to me if you're bored.
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  You need somebody fun like Brett Keen in a room I'll get your ass
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  stimulated. All right, I think I think today
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  girls in a phone call that's why he didn't even this video was
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  nothing matters, right? And he's just, I don't know.
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  Like I'm not trying to make excuses for on but like I wanted
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  to go. 12 and he didn't throw me a link either.
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  So you know, but he called me out, he caught me on a weird,
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  dude. James, what, you know what the
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  problem is, the problem is is a lot of these non-believers out
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  of here. They get bored.
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  And they think that the only way they're going to get any
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  entertainment or excitement is that they find somebody that can
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  whip up our under yell out and shut.
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  It doesn't have to be that way. We can sit here and talk about
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  dating and relationships. We could talk about what new
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  fucking movies come out. It don't always Had to be ye
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  gods means you're an asshole. Just, you know, I've just I've
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  got my own channel and and I met all the people that come to my
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  channel through like atheist type channels.
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  And I've tried so hard to get them interested in things that
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  have nothing to do with religion.
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  And every time I start a stream about something that has nothing
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  to do with religion, they bring it back to that, they bring it
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  back to that every time. And that's just the The state
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  that they're in, right? Like that's not that's not all
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  the time. Like every single one of them
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  have a non-religious interest but we don't all have the same
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  non-religious interest. And so, you know, if Ike if we
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  did then it would be different. So, I've been thinking about
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  rebooting my channel lately, to find a completely different
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  Niche to connect with people on because honestly, I'm tired of
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  talking about religion, tired of talking about what I don't like
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  about it and stuff like that. It's just, you know, Wonderful,
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  sad James and I'm not Hating. I really like her Mania.
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  I think he's a special guy and all that, but I've heard him
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  talk more about God than some of the fundamental Fanatics that
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  are in my own family and they love talking about God.
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  But I've heard that guy actually talk more about God than the
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  people who are actually religious Mound family, and that
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  my friends is a fucked-up shit. You were rationed, hear hoof?
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  I understand. Do you like Von helton's mods?
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  Of course, I like them Helton and stuff.
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  He's extremely fun to talk to whenever he's not bitching and
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  whining about how mean, the internet trolls are.
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  And he's like getting into Witchcraft and warlock potions
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  and casting spells on people. I love it.
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  Good stuff, very funny. Please think of his mods.
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  He's got some good stuff, he's made some furniture for Fallout,
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  he's come up with some good ideas and I also emailed them a
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  list of ideas that he could make some mods about and I'm looking
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  forward to him. He's he's pretty good at it.
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  I get really concerned with downloading mods from people.
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  I don't know especially if they got stupid avatars because I am
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  so sick and tired of having to uninstall my fucking game and
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  then start all over because somebody shit broke my thing and
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  cows are flying all over. All over my game.
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  You know what I mean? James, I do know what you mean.
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  So, it's hard to find good mods, especially ones that work
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  together with each other. All we got to do.
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  Gomati can make have horns that Vaughn.
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  You can have him you and Jay dolts.
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  And again, I already modded g-dubs involved in helping into
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  the game. I told them helping about that.
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  If you go over to my old Channel, I got an old YouTube
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  channel that me and John, and some other assholes used to play
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  on and stuff. We called it games.
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  You love lot of atheists, like, make fun at games.
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  You love home bright girl. So if you go over there and you
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  look at it you'll see a video where pain help MS.
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  Actually in Fallout 4. I modded his ass into it.
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  All right. Have you tried have you tried
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  Fallout together the Moon? Fall out.
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  What James? I didn't get your last part of
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  that fall out together. It's like Skyrim together where
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  you can turn it into a co-op. Now, I seen videos where people
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  were able to do that with Skyrim and that looks beautiful.
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  And I've seen it with Sims 4 but not fall out.
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  Really Fallout 4 is got multiplayer now.
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  Yeah, somebody modded it's not perfect but neither Skyrim one.
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  So if you can, It's tricky to get it to work.
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  But once you do, it's worth messing around with Wait a
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  minute, wait a minute. I think I seen a video about a
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  year ago where they were testing it out and like one person would
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  look like you were roller skating across the screen while
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  the other person was actually able to move, did they adjust it
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  that they fix it? Because there's no way I can
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  play like that, without laughing my ass off and pissing, my
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  pants. Yeah, I'm Basics that since
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  then, I don't know what the latest.
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  I haven't tried it in many months with with a friend, so
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  I'm not really sure. So and then follow 76, I have a
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  level five hundred and something character and but I died too.
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  Often in that game. I'm super experienced at that
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  game but still die a lot. And I know it's because I wear
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  this excavator armor, but if I don't wear the excavator armor
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  that I can't carry everything, I need to carry and it's just so
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  frustrating that that's why I quit the game again you guys
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  somebody here called resi Kim's and 3D.
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  This is probably, why are you still on this believer versus
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  non-believer thing? Well, I made the last few videos
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  actually made a video stating that according to a study
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  atheist, or more charitable than a lot of religious types out
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  there actually said something pretty positive.
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  So, it makes me sad. You guys only focus on my -
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  shut, I got to do my - shit. That's how YouTube works.
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  But I do video games. I do shows, I talk about my
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  personal life, some of the things I get creative then, and
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  of course I do video games. So I do try to keep it a little
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  bit. Bit of variety there for sure.
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  Yeah, you know two great teams. You seen some of my slop, right?
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  Yeah. I've been catching pieces of
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  your your your bits here and there and and I really
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  appreciated that like you did. You just had a stream or a bit
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  about atheists in charity and stuff like that.
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  I didn't I only caught part of it and that's lately.
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  I haven't had time to watch and tell your videos of anybody's
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  stuff like at all, like I'll jump in.
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  Even my friends at jump in 45 minutes of a napkin.
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  I jump back out. So well James, I really Really
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  try to make a big effort to get along with non-believers I do.
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  I if they don't want to talk about religion, we can talk
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  about anything under the sun that they want to debate or
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  discuss. I'm more than willing to do
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  that. But the problem is, is when I
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  get you try to make a buddy with an atheist you'll, you know, and
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  you get the like in them, your bond with them and all that and
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  then you go watch somebody else's live stream when you see
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  them up on the screen going yet. Bright key need a fucking
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  retard. It's like wow, that sucks.
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  I'm out. Out, and that fucking
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  relationship, right? So, I mean, I would never, I
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  would never come at you like that at all.
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  But the thing is, is like, that doesn't mean I agree with the
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  stuff you say, you're like, oh, there's some videos of yours I
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  watch. And I'm like, nope, nope, nope,
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  nope. But then, I don't want to make a
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  stream about it because I don't want to feel like I'm calling
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  you out or coming after you. And and the individual issues
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  are all issues that the community is already like talked
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  about both sides. Have talked about Ad nauseam,
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  right? Like everything, the Just have
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  to say about, it's already them, said, everything to the Skeptics
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  are have to say about it, that's already been.
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  So I feel like it doesn't it's not going to help anybody if I
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  have my voice to the ring. So then I just don't.
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  What did you know? James you're more than welcome
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  to. If you decide you want to make a
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  stream or a video where you have a disagreement or view, I don't
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  mind critical criticism and if you think that something can be
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  refuted or dealt with, I'm more than happy, it's just when you
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  click on a video and somebody says As oh, fuck, face made a
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  video today. Let me tell you what, a fucking
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  loser said, it's that kind of stuff that turns a person off in
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  the first two minutes. You know what I mean?
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  Naidu hundred percent. And I've explained this to
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  people before, and I didn't explain it to Matt Dillahunty
• 27:05
  because you can't explain nothing to do honey.
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  But you know, if we if we have all these really angry divisive
• 27:12
  polemics in the community then it makes it to where we're not
• 27:16
  having real discussions and nobody wants to have a
• 27:18
  discussion with the other side. You know, if the other side is
• 27:21
  just Evil hateful awful people in, you know, we're throwing
• 27:25
  around phrases like fuck face, which is a popular thing.
• 27:28
  These days fuckface then, okay? Like our team they cheer.
• 27:33
  Right. Yeah we sure called out them
• 27:36
  fuck faces but then what else have we accomplished nothing.
• 27:40
  Right. Because the other people on the
• 27:42
  other side of that that issue or like okay I'm out.
• 27:45
  I'm not even gonna like sit here for this.
• 27:47
  So you know, we're have we gotten in You know, I just find
• 27:52
  it frustrating because I don't I have to make peace with the fact
• 27:56
  that this world is divided for every single point perspective.
• 28:00
  There is an opposite point of perspective out there and you
• 28:03
  can. It's um it's not only just about
• 28:05
  religion and politics, sometimes it's about food or sports,
• 28:09
  right? Like people just divide across
• 28:12
  every line that they feel passionate about and if I lose,
• 28:15
  if I let myself, start losing sleep over, you know, all these
• 28:19
  people that disagree with me about stuff.
• 28:22
  I'm just never going to be at peace and I have made peace with
• 28:24
  that. I'm like, people are coming from
• 28:26
  a different place in their life. They had a different life
• 28:28
  experience, different Journey, their brain works differently
• 28:31
  than mind. They perceive and feel and
• 28:33
  relate differently than I do. And I'm not going to take that
• 28:36
  personal because it's not about me, right?
• 28:38
  If somebody holds to a different view than me, they're not
• 28:40
  rebelling against me. They're not trying to like get
• 28:44
  at me, right? They just see things
• 28:46
  differently, they feel things differently and I'm okay with
• 28:49
  that. I really am.
• 28:51
  But a Lot of times, I feel like in the community where I've got
• 28:53
  mostly atheist in my channel, I'm preaching to the choir
• 28:56
  because they already agree with everything I'm saying, and I get
• 28:59
  very little pushback. And if I'm not getting pushed
• 29:01
  back, I'm not growing. And because if you eat, we let
• 29:05
  our, if we let any given Community become an echo
• 29:08
  chamber, where everybody just is agreeing with each other, well,
• 29:12
  that just deeply seats us into these positions.
• 29:15
  To the point where we were we become ideologues, we become
• 29:19
  overly invested in these ideas that we think are true.
• 29:22
  And then nobody can have a discussion with us either
• 29:25
  because we're to over-invested in our positions.
• 29:28
  So I don't know. Like, I can't seem to win for
• 29:30
  losing. That's why I want to start
• 29:31
  talking to people about other things these days.
• 29:33
  Because either, you know, either I'm in an echo chamber or I'm
• 29:38
  pissing people off. It doesn't rarely.
• 29:40
  Does it seem to be a middle ground?
• 29:41
  I appreciate that with you. I've been able to have open
• 29:45
  dialogue and I can express views that are contrary to yours and
• 29:49
  neither one of us have been getting mad at each other and
• 29:51
  all that stuff and I do appreciate I hate that but blah
• 29:54
  man. It's exhausting even my own
• 29:56
  Community. When they just agree with me
• 29:57
  about everything, it's exhausting.
• 29:59
  Because at the end of the day at what I've spent three hours,
• 30:01
  talking about religion. Like why?
• 30:04
  What have we accomplished All right, I hear you there.
• 30:08
  I'm sorry. But you go through that I
• 30:10
  understand how that feels. That was a former atheist in the
• 30:13
  started to feel like I wasn't able to just fit in if I was to
• 30:18
  calm or us to chill or I was too loud.
• 30:21
  It's constantly having people tell me they didn't like the way
• 30:24
  it did this or did that and all that.
• 30:26
  And I'm like well thank goodness.
• 30:28
  I'm doing videos that I actually enjoy.
• 30:31
  So you know it is what it is. Yeah, you have a blessing on
• 30:36
  that. You feel like I said something
• 30:38
  disagreeable feel free to make the video.
• 30:40
  I don't see you being aggressive and nasty.
• 30:43
  I'll be right back. I got to get some water and
• 30:45
  feeling nauseous for some reason.
• 30:46
  I don't know why that is. Are you all right?
• 30:52
  Gays are going to go grab some water.
• 30:54
  So even in a skeptical Community, there's been a lot of
• 30:56
  Divisions lately. So there's this this some
• 31:00
  mythicist, Richard carrier, who argues that Jesus.
• 31:04
  Even like the non Divine versions.
• 31:08
  Like, of The Regular Guy, Jesus doesn't didn't exist, and then
• 31:11
  there's people. Then there's historians like
• 31:13
  Bart Ehrman. That say Jesus, definitely
• 31:15
  existed. The only issue is, how much of
• 31:18
  these stories are real and how much of its not and I always
• 31:23
  felt like I get why religious people might really, really care
• 31:27
  about the issue, but it never really, I never really
• 31:29
  understood by atheist. Get so polarized over this
• 31:32
  issue. And recently there was a big
• 31:34
  Fallout between a couple of different channels that lean
• 31:37
  mythicist versus a couple different channels that lean
• 31:40
  historicist about Jesus and they're all atheists and they
• 31:44
  got so angry with each other. Oh my gosh, the horrible things.
• 31:47
  They were saying about each other.
• 31:49
  And I just, I just Step out. Like I'm like, why why if you
• 31:54
  guys don't care about whether or not Jesus was real, you know,
• 31:59
  then why are you getting angry over?
• 32:00
  The differences of opinion about something you don't care about
• 32:03
  that guy you're talking about is does he have glasses on?
• 32:05
  I would never does one guy. I think you might have been an
• 32:09
  ex-mormon Richard carrier a curly hair.
• 32:14
  Mid to late 30s glasses? Yeah, that's him.
• 32:17
  Yeah. I really care so he's like
• 32:19
  probably the most known of all the mythicist people that think
• 32:23
  that there wasn't even a guy that the whole thing was just
• 32:26
  made up. Here's this other guy all
• 32:29
  Godless engineer. He said that a CSR myth has
• 32:34
  anyway because they don't believe.
• 32:36
  I don't believe that he was God. So, I don't know, he's thinks
• 32:41
  yet. There are even method is just
• 32:43
  for that, we think well. So this is just a semantics
• 32:47
  issue if it depends like how you, what you want to call a
• 32:51
  mythicist. So here's how I look at it.
• 32:54
  So Wonder Woman didn't exist, right?
• 32:57
  So we can, and in that respect, we are all myth assists when it
• 33:01
  comes to Wonder Woman. However, the character the guy
• 33:04
  that created the character Wonder Woman based that
• 33:07
  character on to women. That he was in a polyamorous
• 33:11
  relationship with the time. And so technically Wonder Woman
• 33:17
  was based on, not just one but two real people and then the guy
• 33:21
  that created a character built this whole larger fiction around
• 33:24
  those two peoples, real biography so then it becomes
• 33:27
  kind of like a gray muddy issue. Like is what far as whether or
• 33:30
  not you know we're going to say we're still myth assists about
• 33:35
  Wonder Woman or government work. Whether we're going to say we're
• 33:37
  historicists about Wonder Woman because they were Based on real
• 33:40
  people biographical data the same thing applies to Santa
• 33:44
  Claus. Now, I'm not comparing Santa
• 33:46
  Claus to Jesus. I'm just explaining the
• 33:47
  mythicist versus historicist. Um, debate so Santa Claus were
• 33:52
  all mythicist about, but Santa Claus was based on the real
• 33:57
  biographical data and life of Saint Nicholas of Bari, right?
• 34:01
  So and Dracula Count Dracula the vampire, we're all mythicist
• 34:06
  about but his life was based on I'm the real biographical data
• 34:11
  in life of Vlad the Impaler. So atheist kind of divide in
• 34:18
  kind of this weird sort of semantics soup about whether or
• 34:22
  not there was a guy whether or not the Jesus actually existed
• 34:27
  or not and Eileen historicists, I say that there was a guy.
• 34:32
  No, I have different reasons for saying that but I'm like look
• 34:36
  every single fictional character ever written was based at least
• 34:39
  I'm part on somebody's real experiences group.
• 34:43
  With real people, they drew from what they know they'd people
• 34:46
  draw from what they know, when they create characters they draw
• 34:48
  from people, they really do an in-person or real people they've
• 34:51
  heard about and then they build this larger idea around them.
• 34:54
  So in that respect you know all fictional characters have a root
• 35:01
  in a real person or more than one real person.
• 35:04
  So, in that way, we're all we should all be historicists
• 35:08
  about. What about Santa And track, it
• 35:10
  Len Wonder Woman but at the same time if we're just talking about
• 35:13
  the actual larger-than-life figured that this larger
• 35:17
  narrative isn't built around, then we should all consider
• 35:20
  ourselves to be myth assists. So it just depends on how we're
• 35:24
  defining things, which makes it really like gray and soupy
• 35:29
  coming from a critical position. Now, Christians obviously don't
• 35:32
  have that problem because they all agreed not only that it
• 35:36
  there was a real guy, but that the whole story, He's accurate
• 35:40
  that that's really everything he said and did and went through a
• 35:43
  nose other stuff. So then there's no ambiguity
• 35:46
  about it. There's no weird soup of ideas,
• 35:51
  right? I'm backed, by the way, I had to
• 35:55
  throw some water on my face and drink a little bit of milk
• 36:00
  trying to filter some water right now.
• 36:02
  Unfortunately, I can't just pour it right into a cup.
• 36:05
  Got to filter it first. Sure, sure.
• 36:09
  Oh, so far by a real guy, I'm sorry.
• 36:14
  Mario was barred by a real guy who run the all building for the
• 36:21
  on it. Of course, there's plumbers all
• 36:23
  over the place, right? And so plumbers in men, looking
• 36:29
  to rescue damsels in distress and yeah, in Italian, Italian
• 36:35
  people, right? So it was there more to it than
• 36:40
  just basic ideas. That basic people, I'm not sure.
• 36:43
  I'd never looked into the history of the huh.
• 36:45
  But even if there wasn't, they were still drawing from, you
• 36:49
  know, real people that we've met just categorically plumbers, for
• 36:52
  example, like Brett said, so, I don't know.
• 36:56
  So, so that, you know, it's still kind of soupy.
• 36:59
  If I was one of them whether or not we want to say Mario was
• 37:01
  based on real people or not because in a general sense,
• 37:04
  course he was. But in a specific sense, he
• 37:06
  might not have them, right? They whoever made the Mario
• 37:09
  character, might not have had a specific guy in mind that he
• 37:13
  was. Building the character around
• 37:14
  that's possible. And this is, this is the the
• 37:17
  main point of contention between historic system ethicists about
• 37:21
  Jesus about whether or not it just used elements from random,
• 37:28
  real people's lives. Are whether or not there was a
• 37:30
  very one specific person who is so wet, well and accurately
• 37:36
  represented in the texts that if that guy were alive today and
• 37:41
  read these stories, he would say ha Ah, that's me.
• 37:43
  They're talking about. I'm that guy that they're
• 37:46
  calling Jesus, right? Would it is, it's so true to who
• 37:49
  he was like, what he really said, what he really did, what
• 37:52
  he went through, how he really felt, when he really lived
• 37:56
  etcetera, is it does it capture him well enough that they died
• 38:00
  that it was based on would actually recognize himself in
• 38:03
  the stories that he read them? And we'll and from an atheist
• 38:06
  perspective, my answer is, I don't know.
• 38:08
  But from a course, a Christian would say, absolutely.
• 38:12
  Course he would write because Jesus.
• 38:14
  So, but but it's weird when atheists divided over this issue
• 38:17
  and get really, really mad at each other about, you know,
• 38:21
  whether or not they think there was a specific guy that was
• 38:24
  based on or whether it was just loose ideas based on various
• 38:29
  random people. Well, James, I've had a lot of
• 38:33
  conversations and then a lot of live shows in the past and my
• 38:36
  Elder Channel where I talk to pagans and a lot of them
• 38:40
  actually believe in historical. Jesus.
• 38:43
  And they actually believe some of them believe that the god of
• 38:47
  the Bible is real, but they also believe in many other gods, the
• 38:50
  same time. I've also spoken the Muslims and
• 38:53
  they believe and they actually have it written in the Quran
• 38:56
  that Jesus Christ existed, born of the Virgin, all these
• 39:00
  different issues. So, it's like most of the world
• 39:03
  actually believes. Even the other religions, even
• 39:06
  Gandhi himself, said he got a lot of his teachings from
• 39:09
  Christ. It's just a minority of people
• 39:12
  who are saying, That they have issue with this.
• 39:15
  Now, I said point, I get the questioning the supernatural
• 39:18
  element of Jesus because you weren't there two thousand years
• 39:21
  ago, but to suggest that he wasn't a historical figure for
• 39:26
  some non believers. This is weird because not only
• 39:29
  did the people who were like endorsing Christ, spoke of them
• 39:32
  but his enemies. Pontius Pilate actually talked
• 39:35
  about him in Rome. All right, well, I get what
• 39:40
  you're saying. I agree with the I claim.
• 39:44
  I mean, you're right. There are three most people in
• 39:46
  the world whom have heard of Jesus are of the belief or
• 39:53
  perspective that he existed, right?
• 39:56
  They existed and then those people just kind of have a range
• 40:00
  of different views about him. How much of the stories they
• 40:03
  think? We're literally true versus how
• 40:05
  much we're just metaphors versus?
• 40:06
  How much of it was fiction like there's a A range of ideas out
• 40:10
  there amongst the various people that accept Jesus existed in
• 40:14
  real life and, and I get that. So, what's it is a minority of
• 40:17
  people. It's a tiny minority of
• 40:19
  academics academics. And it's a still fairly small
• 40:23
  minority of even atheists will say there wasn't the guy at all
• 40:27
  most atheists even today still say there was a guy Jesus was
• 40:31
  real. We just don't think he did the
• 40:33
  miracle stuff, right? So then it just depends on who
• 40:36
  you ask. I've listened to a lot of
• 40:38
  atheists leaders and there are some of the ones that I would
• 40:42
  consider career atheist professionals and all that,
• 40:46
  where they say, they do believe in a historical Jesus, it's a
• 40:49
  supernatural element of it that they have issue with, but I've
• 40:53
  always found that curious. Because if most non-believers,
• 40:57
  which I have noticed on YouTube, they believe commonly in the
• 41:01
  theory, the Big Bang, the singularity.
• 41:03
  If they believe that, then they have to believe in the
• 41:05
  Supernatural. Because The origin of the
• 41:08
  universe of Supernatural by definition.
• 41:10
  I was telling you about that last time.
• 41:13
  Yeah, I remember and it's how you define Supernatural is a
• 41:17
  little bit different than I'm used to hearing it to find
• 41:20
  though. It's not like I've gone and done
• 41:21
  a Pew poll or study on that so maybe maybe the way you define
• 41:25
  its more common than I realize. It's just not something that
• 41:28
  heard before and okay if you go over to go go real quick James
• 41:32
  and you type in Supernatural it's pretty much it's the
• 41:36
  classic sense of Something that is beyond goes beyond or has
• 41:41
  happened, an event has happened without the laws of nature being
• 41:45
  involved, basically something outside of nature.
• 41:48
  Now, that's where the big bang has the problem here.
• 41:52
  And for some reason, some non-believers, they don't, they
• 41:54
  don't get this. But if nature came into
• 41:58
  existence, then they would have had to go through its expansion
• 42:02
  period, in order for our laws, to be laid down along with the
• 42:05
  element of space and time. If that is the case, then the
• 42:09
  very thing that started the universe was outside of nature
• 42:13
  itself. Nature didn't nature came into
• 42:16
  existence, it didn't create itself, alright?
• 42:20
  So I am reading it in your right attributed to some Force Beyond
• 42:25
  scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
• 42:29
  Now, these are two different ideas, of course but our
• 42:32
  scientific understandings are so limited that we don't even
• 42:35
  completely understand water. We Not even completely
• 42:37
  understand gravity, right? So if we're going to go, if
• 42:42
  we're going to Define supernatural that way to say,
• 42:44
  it's anything beyond our scientific understanding.
• 42:46
  Then everything is Supernatural, literally.
• 42:48
  Everything is at least part Supernatural.
• 42:50
  Well, I'm not working with that. I understood that.
• 42:53
  That was part of that was like a section part of the thing.
• 42:58
  I realized that by going into a room and saying everything that
• 43:02
  we don't know about just happens to be Supernatural, I prefer to
• 43:05
  go with the actual That non-believers will stand up and
• 43:09
  go. Hmm, because yeah, there's
• 43:11
  there's a hundred billion things in the universe that we know
• 43:15
  nothing about. There's a billion things going
• 43:17
  on right in front of our face at but our eyes don't have the
• 43:20
  tools to observe it that is going on.
• 43:23
  That doesn't necessarily mean Supernatural so that's why I
• 43:26
  don't waste my time with the first part of it.
• 43:29
  Yeah. So as far as laws of nature I'm
• 43:32
  guessing that means laws of physics.
• 43:34
  I'm guessing that's what that means.
• 43:35
  It doesn't mean nature as in In like trees and grass and stuff
• 43:41
  like that. It means Nature has in just the
• 43:44
  way everything works in nature of things, the physics of
• 43:46
  things, if that's what it means. I just don't, I'm not sure
• 43:50
  exactly what I would do without because, so there's stoics.
• 43:54
  I'm sure you've heard of stoicism before.
• 43:56
  No stoicism still wakes had their own cosmological idea.
• 44:00
  They believe that that the universe as we know it was this
• 44:04
  thing that has always existed and it Giggles.
• 44:07
  So, it expands it takes the form of all kinds of super net or are
• 44:11
  not Supernatural of cosmic bodies, like planets, and stars
• 44:15
  and comets, and things are gone, and it keeps expanding, and
• 44:18
  eventually it somehow, it gets recycled, then it and it
• 44:22
  condenses into a local phenomenon of chaotic energy,
• 44:27
  builds up to critical mass expands outward again and then
• 44:31
  begins to take the form that we're familiar with all over
• 44:35
  again maybe maybe identically or Maybe with some Randomness to it
• 44:38
  and then so they that's what they thought was going on.
• 44:42
  So they if if a Christian were to walk up to one of those
• 44:46
  original stoics and say all of it had an absolute beginning and
• 44:51
  so something had to exist before it, that that's intelligent and
• 44:55
  Powerful to create time and space and energy, which created
• 45:00
  matter and all that other stuff. The stoic would probably object
• 45:04
  even strong more strongly than atheist.
• 45:05
  But because the stoic idea of customer He was stuff.
• 45:08
  Has always existed. It just continues to recycle
• 45:11
  now, I don't want my name and I understand, I understand that
• 45:14
  there's all. There's several theories are and
• 45:17
  how the universe may have come into existence.
• 45:20
  But usually when I'm talking to non-believers as well as other
• 45:23
  religious, people who aren't sure where are, they have their
• 45:26
  own view? Most people they find common
• 45:29
  ground because the most popular idea by the experts.
• 45:33
  Right now it's a big Fick, the Big Bang.
• 45:35
  Now I've heard that That our universe might be a bunch of
• 45:38
  bubbles multi versus sitting in a damn Seer.
• 45:42
  I've heard people claim that the Earth is flat.
• 45:45
  I personally think it's pizzas shape, I've heard all kinds of
• 45:48
  different ideas, but I try to stick with the the common belief
• 45:53
  that everybody has when going into that.
• 45:56
  And as far as I'm concerned, the Big Bang is a supernatural.
• 45:59
  Explanation of fact, it was actually, the concept was
• 46:02
  created by a Catholic who took his work to Einstein and they're
• 46:06
  the ones that put at this mess together.
• 46:10
  Sure, sure. So big bang is a euphemism
• 46:14
  created actually by one of his adversaries trying to make fun
• 46:17
  of his work and it just kind of stuck.
• 46:19
  But basically it just refers to the idea that it at some point.
• 46:22
  Back in time, all of the energy that are matter is that now
• 46:27
  consists of all existed in one local area and that for some
• 46:32
  reason, suddenly rapidly starting expanding and several
• 46:38
  different directions. It rapidly started expanding and
• 46:41
  so that's that rapid expansion is what they call the big bang
• 46:45
  that the Big Bang model makes no assumptions about origin.
• 46:49
  It doesn't claim that everything had a finite beginning.
• 46:53
  It only claims that the form that we know at has now had a
• 46:57
  finite beginning. So if you ask a cosmologist to
• 47:00
  tell you we know nothing. Literally nothing about anything
• 47:03
  prior to Rapid expansion. If you try to go back and even a
• 47:07
  moment before rapid expansion, It's all guesswork.
• 47:10
  It is all untestable. It is all of the completely
• 47:13
  hypothetical. We can't do anything with it.
• 47:15
  We can't look. We can't touch, we don't know.
• 47:19
  Mathematical models can account for we just don't know.
• 47:21
  So cosmologists are saying, we don't know, we have no idea if
• 47:25
  that's literally, when all time and space and matter began or
• 47:28
  not, which don't know. But you know, the Kalam
• 47:31
  cosmological argument argues, we totally name's James.
• 47:35
  I understand that there's a lot of things that we don't know.
• 47:39
  No. But the scientists are actually
• 47:41
  pretty clear about what they do. Know they say that Universe
• 47:44
  actually expanded and came from a single point that it actually
• 47:49
  had a beginning, all nature space and time.
• 47:52
  We're not talking about all the before, and all this for we're
• 47:55
  talking about, like, the beginning of this is Stephen,
• 47:58
  Hawking has pointed out repeatedly.
• 48:00
  Sure he had to get the beginning of the structure that we know,
• 48:04
  as the universe, where it's got the, these kind of physical law,
• 48:09
  Isn't these kinds of astronomical bodies, the
• 48:12
  beginning of that, process of that expansion and accumulation,
• 48:20
  you know, that the beginning of that process was, I think, yes,
• 48:23
  but they are going to faith has and Sean.
• 48:28
  Carroll was quick to quote him on this, who was a co-author on
• 48:32
  one of the most foremost papers about the model has has
• 48:36
  clarified that when they, when cosmologists talk about, The
• 48:39
  beginning, they are not not talking about an absolute
• 48:42
  beginning to All Space matter time as something they're not,
• 48:45
  they're making noises like this post to this directly off of the
• 48:48
  NASA website itself. These are the people who
• 48:51
  actually go flying around space and put their ass online.
• 48:55
  This is directly from NASA. It is the origin of the
• 48:59
  universe. It is the beginning of all space
• 49:02
  time and matter. I even got several videos.
• 49:06
  James, I'm not getting aren't to you, but I have noticed when
• 49:11
  talking to some non-believers about this as well as few
• 49:14
  religious people. There's some kind of confusion
• 49:17
  here. That's one of the reasons why I
• 49:18
  ended up putting a clip a couple clips into my show.
• 49:22
  Are you able to see the screen? I am a link would help me so I
• 49:26
  can research that. So the next time we talk about
• 49:28
  I'm gonna I'm gonna actually show something on the screen
• 49:31
  here. That's why I'm asking you if
• 49:32
  you're able to see your screen. Yeah, right way, everybody.
• 49:36
  That way. Everybody's on the same page.
• 49:38
  Here you go about 13.7 billion years ago.
• 49:43
  This tiny Singularity violently exploded and it is from this
• 49:49
  explosion. This bang that all matter.
• 49:52
  Energy, space, and time were created, no explosion, no bang
• 49:58
  just expansion. This tiny Singularity violently
• 50:02
  exploded. No explosion.
• 50:05
  Oh no. Bang just expansion before the
• 50:08
  Big Bang. There was nothing, literally
• 50:12
  nothing and then something happens.
• 50:16
  Triggering the most colossal explosion in history.
• 50:22
  We don't necessarily think it was nothing before that.
• 50:25
  You are telling us that matter. Arose spontaneously out of
• 50:31
  nothing, literally nothing, nothing literally nothing,
• 50:36
  nothing literally nothing. About 13.7 billion years ago,
• 50:44
  accident like the video again. So the point is James and I am
• 50:49
  not trying to come off the offensive or rude, but there's a
• 50:52
  lot of Google atheist YouTubers out there who keep formulating
• 50:57
  and rewording, what the actual scientists are saying and just
• 51:01
  to help them out. I ended up putting actual
• 51:03
  professional scientists who are atheist up on the screen so
• 51:08
  people could see what Actually saying, compared to the typical
• 51:13
  YouTuber, something like that, insurance are out there on their
• 51:16
  own idea to be fair, because if I put a Christian up there or
• 51:20
  someone who's got like an agnostic view, then they'll just
• 51:23
  say, yeah, they're fucking stupid because their religious
• 51:27
  so I give them their own sources friend.
• 51:31
  I appreciate that. So the the sources that I am
• 51:35
  reliably, citing accurately saying I should say include Sean
• 51:39
  Carroll. Alan Guth, I think who else said
• 51:44
  being Hassan Fetter has some filter.
• 51:48
  So it's like some of the world's most prominent science
• 51:52
  communicators, that are physicists and cosmologists,
• 51:58
  what they're saying about this. Now, if you can find some other
• 52:02
  physicists, and cosmologists, who disagrees, why I took I put
• 52:05
  this right up on the screen for you.
• 52:07
  James, this is directly from the NASA.
• 52:10
  Website, you can go to NASA.com. This is what they're telling
• 52:13
  people. So whoever the other folks are
• 52:16
  that, you're mentioning apparently, they never got on
• 52:19
  the horn with NASA and let them know that there's a different
• 52:22
  way to describe them explaining. This, this is a NASA calls this.
• 52:27
  The simplistic way of being able to explain this to basically the
• 52:31
  Layman man. So just so we're clear about
• 52:34
  this, the quote you just put up there.
• 52:36
  Nicole, you just head up there. The about the Big Bang is
• 52:39
  exactly what I'm saying. It is not a disagreement with
• 52:41
  what I'm saying. It's exactly what I'm saying.
• 52:44
  All right, fair enough but you got to understand I've been
• 52:47
  doing shows for so long that I feel as though I got to also be
• 52:51
  able to talk to the audience and stuff in case, someone doesn't
• 52:54
  understand what we're getting at or what were describing.
• 52:57
  So I want to make sure everybody's following long sure.
• 53:01
  So, William Lane, Craig cited, the same thing and his debate
• 53:04
  with Sean Carroll, Well and in doing so, he cited the Border
• 53:10
  Boothville income theorem that the primary paper.
• 53:14
  That's about this that that NASA draws from.
• 53:16
  And so that's why Sean Carroll had a on goof on screen to talk
• 53:22
  about it and he's like, oh, you know, William Lane, Craig,
• 53:24
  misunderstood, when we say that, beginning of the universe were
• 53:28
  only talking about the beginning of classical descriptions of the
• 53:31
  universe. We're talking about the
• 53:32
  beginning of the process, that created the form that we have
• 53:35
  now, We're not talking about an absolute beginning of the stuff
• 53:39
  that the universe is made out of or time, right?
• 53:42
  And like you said, just a moment ago, scientists have no clue
• 53:46
  beyond that. And the only reason that they
• 53:48
  hold on to this is because of the radiation shift.
• 53:51
  I believe he called the redshift or something.
• 53:54
  I get that I understand. But the point is for those out
• 53:58
  there that are listening, may not understand this.
• 54:00
  They're claiming that at some point in time.
• 54:03
  The universe did not have a form.
• 54:04
  It did not even have, Have nature and because it had no
• 54:08
  nature, it had no laws of nature.
• 54:10
  Anything that exists outside of nature is going to be considered
• 54:15
  that a supernatural. It's a completely different
• 54:18
  level now. Yeah, so yeah.
• 54:21
  They just shut up. Sean, Carroll spoken at length
• 54:23
  about this and so is Sabina, Hassan filner that we just don't
• 54:27
  know anything about prior to Rapid expansion.
• 54:29
  We are sure that physics were working differently, but none of
• 54:32
  them have taken the position that there weren't any physics
• 54:34
  in play, right? And I I understand that there's
• 54:37
  everything they don't understand.
• 54:39
  I'm talking about what they do know though, they do know that
• 54:42
  the Universe had a beginning, they straight up, say this all
• 54:46
  these scientists even on videos. There's literally hundreds of
• 54:50
  videos where they tell you, the universe had a beginning and
• 54:53
  because of that that means that the laws of nature did not
• 54:56
  always exist, whatever? Logically and rationally existed
• 55:01
  outside of this to ignite the form of the universe.
• 55:04
  Very definition of it. It would have been outside of
• 55:07
  the laws of nature that is known.
• 55:09
  That's The Logical point of it. None of them would concede to
• 55:13
  that. Now I appreciate your
• 55:14
  interpretation of but none of them would agree with you on
• 55:16
  that. They just wouldn't.
• 55:18
  But here's the thing, whenever they come in will talk about it
• 55:20
  and all that. But that's like I said, my
• 55:23
  information, I put videos up. I put the short the information
• 55:28
  directly from NASA and that's the would be the obvious case of
• 55:32
  it. That's why guys.
• 55:33
  Like William Lane Craig do go into it, just When someone says
• 55:36
  they don't agree with him, doesn't mean that they've
• 55:39
  refuted his argument. Well, I get that but when the
• 55:43
  people that William Lane Craig reciting as the experts that
• 55:47
  he's that support his case come on and say you've misunderstood
• 55:51
  our work that's not what we meant at all.
• 55:53
  Then they do get to refute William Lane Craig they do get
• 55:56
  to say hey they didn't refuting whatsoever but they did in the
• 56:02
  debate. But you know by claiming that we
• 56:04
  don't know what happened before the Universe is not a
• 56:06
  reputation. It's simply basically making the
• 56:10
  assertion that we don't have enough information.
• 56:12
  Describe what happened before it?
• 56:14
  I'm talking about what actually happened at the beginning and
• 56:17
  what happened to form the universe whatever was going on
• 56:21
  to create the laws of nature before nature actually existed,
• 56:25
  there were no laws of nature, therefore, that is logically
• 56:28
  defined a supernatural for the people out there.
• 56:31
  Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 56:33
  Is there anybody that's confused about that, if you Ain't no laws
• 56:36
  of nature. Then you've got the
• 56:38
  supernatural, something that is beyond nature friend, right?
• 56:45
  So yeah, what's up there? I keep hearing will hold on
• 56:47
  ghost, man, keeps on trying to say braat braat braat.
• 56:50
  What's going on here, man? I heard people try to get around
• 56:53
  this long Krauss and are all said that her there, they
• 56:58
  believe hers. A Multiverse Yeah, I've heard a
• 57:02
  couple of the scientists say that I also hear people
• 57:05
  nowadays, claiming that we might live in a computer simulation
• 57:08
  and all that. Let me see what we got here.
• 57:11
  Let me prove, I got to put something on the screen.
• 57:14
  Somebody wants to get up here. Let's see what we got.
• 57:18
  Well, here's a problem, that hold on their team, man.
• 57:22
  I mean that seemed am the ghost, man.
• 57:24
  What's going on in there? Wizard.
• 57:26
  Hey, how's it going? Brett, I'm doing pretty good.
• 57:29
  How are you? How was your Christmas and New
• 57:30
  Year's Do you know it was not bad, you know, didn't really go
• 57:34
  out and do too much? Had a dinner with the family.
• 57:38
  That was pretty much the extent. But, you know, classic dinner
• 57:40
  with the family. Can't be that.
• 57:42
  Sweet. Sweet to get anything that you
• 57:44
  wanted. Yeah.
• 57:46
  Um, I got a pretty cool gaming monitor from my girlfriend.
• 57:51
  She also got me a call me a lot of gaming stuff.
• 57:54
  A keyboard here, RGB keyboard. She got me a gaming chair to
• 57:58
  pretty nice gaming chair. Well that's pretty cool.
• 58:03
  That is cool. Glad to hear it.
• 58:05
  Yeah, we aim to you guys into. We were talking about games
• 58:08
  earlier, before we got into the universe and the big bang and
• 58:11
  all that stuff. Well, last night we were playing
• 58:15
  some phasma phobia, I don't know if you're familiar with that
• 58:19
  now, mostly in a turn-based, RPGs or Bethesda type of games,
• 58:24
  oh no. Yeah, fair enough.
• 58:25
  Yeah, it's a ghost hunting game but uh, yeah, no, I'm definitely
• 58:29
  into plenty of those as well. I play a lot of different.
• 58:31
  Different stuff. I feel like you're a man that
• 58:33
  could probably say the same. I got it.
• 58:37
  I'm kind of limited at the kind of video games I can play
• 58:39
  nowadays because my eyesight's going out as I get older.
• 58:43
  So I got to play games, it can be paused or that I'm able to
• 58:46
  concentrate our and I can play a game like Fallout, even though
• 58:49
  it's got real action-packed Combat, because you got that
• 58:52
  system, you can like, freeze the enemy and then shoot him in the
• 58:55
  face. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
• 58:58
  that's totally makes sense. Yeah, you can use Vats, you
• 59:01
  know, just kind of take a nice good.
• 59:03
  Look at what's going on seeing see Have a battlefield shaking
• 59:07
  out. Just kind of saunter over.
• 59:10
  Shoot. Somebody in the heads.
• 59:11
  Wonderful. Yeah.
• 59:12
  Scoped rifle or a rocket launcher, the Big Daddy.
• 59:16
  Yeah, there's something. I actually wanted to ask you
• 59:19
  Brett, because I've been having some difficulty.
• 59:21
  Now I've I've read an actually own a copy of your first book,
• 59:25
  excellent book. But I was curious, where can
• 59:29
  people buy a copy of the second? The second book, the name is
• 59:34
  escaping me right now. But I was trying to find
• 59:36
  somewhere to buy it recently. Well, I got five books,
• 59:40
  actually, right now, I'm actually, if you look on the
• 59:43
  screen right now, you'll see after life simulation, that's
• 59:46
  what? Oh yeah.
• 59:47
  Yes yeah that was being sold Eternal and dying love series.
• 59:51
  I actually want to do remastered and put all three books into one
• 59:56
  big book with all kinds of new artwork and that type of stuff.
• 1:00:01
  So many awesome. The trilogy is going to become
• 1:00:04
  one big Probably going to go hard cover on it.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah, we're definitely entering that era where a lot of people
• 1:00:12
  are making the correct choice of kind of taking their IP, you
• 1:00:17
  know, putting it in one place where everyone can access it.
• 1:00:19
  Like that, remastering it. I'm all for that, you know.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah. Plus the, the original books
• 1:00:27
  were written whenever I was a teenager and I didn't have a
• 1:00:29
  professional editor. So I want to make sure that it's
• 1:00:33
  edited, it's cleaned up. There's a lot of Tough.
• 1:00:35
  And I also want to be able to add some more to the story of
• 1:00:39
  what I was going for and wrote it, whenever I was a kid and my
• 1:00:43
  wife, she suggested, we self-publish it.
• 1:00:45
  And that's what we went for. Yeah, no.
• 1:00:48
  I definitely understand what that's like, I remember when I
• 1:00:51
  was a young chap, myself, writing writing a lot of my
• 1:00:55
  ideas for books and novels of things like that down on paper,
• 1:01:00
  nowadays are very lucky. We should be very grateful, you
• 1:01:03
  know, it's very easy. You can go on.
• 1:01:06
  And higher like some micronesian person who's very very grateful
• 1:01:12
  to pay it get paid like you know like $50 to edit your book for
• 1:01:16
  you. So this you know it's a lot
• 1:01:18
  easier and a lot a lot more convenient these days to access
• 1:01:23
  the resources that you need as a creative person.
• 1:01:25
  So I definitely get I definitely get where you're coming from and
• 1:01:28
  they got a lot of better technology and software nowadays
• 1:01:32
  to. I mean, oh yeah, 46 now and I
• 1:01:35
  have actually really written those whenever I was a teenager
• 1:01:38
  and, you know, had some bumbling ideas and weird stuff going on
• 1:01:41
  my head. It's basically my way of having
• 1:01:44
  an escapism. Yeah, at that time.
• 1:01:47
  Just kind of get away, create my own fantasy world, and of
• 1:01:50
  course, yeah, some weird shit together, of course.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah. You know, I feel like, I feel
• 1:01:55
  like that's definitely the case for a lot of creative types.
• 1:01:58
  I was having some discussions with my girlfriend and some
• 1:02:01
  other people about the Avatar films and lets, you know, let's
• 1:02:05
  The James Cameron himself. As a young man was doing, he was
• 1:02:10
  coming up with all of these ideas.
• 1:02:12
  That later became the, you know, highest grossing film, franchise
• 1:02:16
  of all time. I don't know if it's the but you
• 1:02:18
  know, they've got a first Avatar movie made, like a two or three
• 1:02:22
  billion dollars. So that's a lot of that stuff.
• 1:02:24
  So what James Cameron was coming up with when he was having
• 1:02:28
  dreams as a young lad just kind of sketch and stuff.
• 1:02:30
  When he woke up very inspiring, I haven't had the opportunity.
• 1:02:34
  The second one. And it actually looks pretty
• 1:02:36
  good and I seen some previews like little Avatar babies and
• 1:02:41
  all that. It looks interesting.
• 1:02:43
  I'm definitely going to check it out.
• 1:02:44
  We don't usually run off to the movie theater around here.
• 1:02:47
  Do we usually wait until the movies come out, we just
• 1:02:50
  recently bought Black Adam and I don't know why everybody's
• 1:02:53
  pissed all over that movie. I thought it was pretty good.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah I think from what I've heard it seems that the
• 1:03:01
  consensus with a lot of people whether or not you like the
• 1:03:05
  blackout. Had more to do with what was
• 1:03:07
  going on behind the scenes and how it affected.
• 1:03:11
  Not only the production of Black Adam, but, you know, as well.
• 1:03:15
  What's going on with DC? Kind of at the moment
• 1:03:19
  afterwards, you know, kind of in the follow and I would say
• 1:03:21
  probably has more just to do with the rock, trying to, you
• 1:03:27
  know, get this passion project of his off the ground which you
• 1:03:30
  know, he could say he definitely got the movie made but at this
• 1:03:34
  point, it seems Is that, it's very, contentious subject with a
• 1:03:37
  DC fans. Well, I think a lot of people
• 1:03:40
  are pissed off because they got the see this, pretty Cameo of
• 1:03:43
  Henry Cavill and besides Christopher Reeves.
• 1:03:46
  He is in my book, He's considered one of the greatest
• 1:03:50
  Superman's that ever existed and I feel like you didn't get a
• 1:03:53
  proper sequel on it. Everybody was told he was going
• 1:03:57
  to be able to continue on the as the character and then drops
• 1:04:00
  from Witcher. I can see why everybody's pissed
• 1:04:03
  off Henry Cavill deserves to be treated a lot.
• 1:04:05
  Other than that. Yeah yeah.
• 1:04:08
  I just hope that in the future there's a there's more of a
• 1:04:12
  vision with some of these people when it comes to what they're
• 1:04:15
  doing with their creative Endeavors.
• 1:04:18
  You know, planning, a little bit further into the future and all
• 1:04:20
  that good stuff. It helps to have a plan
• 1:04:23
  beforehand. It sounds like from what I've
• 1:04:26
  been seeing. It is a lot of rumors.
• 1:04:28
  I don't usually buy what most people say on Twitter, but
• 1:04:32
  sounds like the James Gunn guy. Think it was.
• 1:04:34
  What his name is? He wants to do a younger version
• 1:04:36
  of the characters, or whatever. I don't understand with all the
• 1:04:40
  money that they have, why they can't do adult version, why you
• 1:04:43
  can't have a Clark, Kent, and Lois, and a small Bill and and
• 1:04:47
  whatever people like your different versions.
• 1:04:50
  And since we're playing with the Multiverse anyway, why can't we
• 1:04:53
  have the It version or some other form of Superman, I don't
• 1:04:57
  get it. You raise a good point, I think
• 1:04:59
  it has more to do with normal. Do be the general and fatal
• 1:05:03
  ization of much of the audience, eating up a lot of this stuff
• 1:05:08
  unquestioningly, but I think it also has to do with, you know,
• 1:05:12
  this. How would I say, do you remember
• 1:05:16
  what they made that Looney Tunes cartoon.
• 1:05:17
  That was like members fucking babies.
• 1:05:20
  You know, I think they're pretty much doing that with everything.
• 1:05:22
  Now, if they're not doing that, they're just Just gender
• 1:05:25
  swapping everything. You know, they're making gender
• 1:05:28
  swapped Ghostbusters and gender swapped beast wars, and
• 1:05:33
  everything. You know, it's just, it's a
• 1:05:35
  catastrophe. What can I say?
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, I feel like they're really putting these actresses and
• 1:05:40
  actors and highly impossible thing.
• 1:05:44
  The expectations are that people are going to want to see the
• 1:05:47
  character that they've been born and lived with all their life.
• 1:05:51
  It's I think that if they want to make woman Heroes and
• 1:05:54
  Characters and all that. There's plenty of female comic
• 1:05:58
  book characters is plenty of African American superheroes and
• 1:06:02
  all that. Is someone right now?
• 1:06:04
  I guarantee it, if they were to make a video right now, our
• 1:06:07
  trailer and say they replace bond with a Caucasian or an
• 1:06:10
  Irish guy, people would flip their shit.
• 1:06:14
  I mean look at Green Lantern, they do.
• 1:06:16
  They've had plenty of Green, Lantern's, all all across the
• 1:06:21
  rainbow. There's been plenty of people
• 1:06:23
  taking up the mantle of the Green Lantern.
• 1:06:25
  Not that anybody really cares about Green Lantern but you
• 1:06:27
  know, feel like that's a good example right there.
• 1:06:31
  Why? I like Green Lantern, but I
• 1:06:32
  don't think the movie did him Justice.
• 1:06:35
  Oh, definitely Ryan Reynolds. He's a badass and every sense of
• 1:06:39
  the word a lot of them is dead pulled, but I don't know.
• 1:06:42
  I don't think people were ready for some kind of Green Lantern
• 1:06:44
  at this point. Yeah, I think the I think these
• 1:06:47
  special effects weren't they definitely could have done this
• 1:06:51
  special effects justice but I don't believe at the time.
• 1:06:55
  I don't believe at the time they had the right people in the
• 1:06:57
  right budget to be working on it.
• 1:07:01
  No man, I noticed that James a person took off in his gracious.
• 1:07:07
  What do we got here? We got somebody called derping.
• 1:07:10
  Oh we got a derp / here. What's going to happen with the
• 1:07:12
  dura / welder / in order for me to put you on the screen.
• 1:07:17
  So you can act a fool, you have to fix your camera so it's
• 1:07:19
  device not connected. I can't add you to the stream
• 1:07:22
  when it's like that. You had to fix that so I can add
• 1:07:25
  you. It's stream yards.
• 1:07:27
  Not me, I didn't write this shit.
• 1:07:32
  Well, anyways bread, it's been good talking to you but
• 1:07:34
  unfortunately I would have to go.
• 1:07:35
  I have some new years after New Year's Day Day business to
• 1:07:40
  attend to but you have a good one man.
• 1:07:42
  Merry Christmas you too man. Have a good one and enjoy your
• 1:07:46
  super gaming computer. Yeah.
• 1:07:48
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:07:49
  You too man. Right now.
• 1:07:53
  What's going on in there? Ghosty.
• 1:07:55
  No problem. I heard for the all multiverses
• 1:07:58
  that. Here's the law.
• 1:08:00
  Of thermodynamics says think that seems breaks down and when
• 1:08:05
  there's off and a tight place so they don't, that's a problem
• 1:08:11
  against up. Multiverse Well, I don't, I
• 1:08:17
  personally don't see an issue with it.
• 1:08:19
  The way I figured as you know, that I believe in a higher
• 1:08:23
  power, I believe in a God and if God wants to, if God can create
• 1:08:27
  one Universe, he's perfectly capable of creating all the
• 1:08:31
  universe. He wants an act under different
• 1:08:33
  physics and natural laws, and all that.
• 1:08:37
  Have you ever heard of The Arrow of time theory?
• 1:08:39
  You might find this a sanity. Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Okay, for those out there, who haven't heard about the arrow of
• 1:08:46
  time, it's people who believe that a universe is literally
• 1:08:50
  going backwards in time. Let's say, for example, if we
• 1:08:54
  were to put our universe side-by-side to a universe that
• 1:08:58
  is doing that and we could actually observe life forms
• 1:09:00
  inside of it. It would be as if they're
• 1:09:03
  growing backwards. It be as though they're doing
• 1:09:05
  everything completely backwards to us because we live in a lie
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  near Universe at that makes sense and that cool.
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  Yeah. Whoever's Another Universe where
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  you're the president of the United States.
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  Are you asking me what I'd do if I was the president United
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  States? I mean, if whatever's in there
• 1:09:28
  Universe where you're the uh president Oh, well, I'd probably
• 1:09:33
  nuke everything and do a full reset.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, whatever. I'm just kidding.
• 1:09:41
  I don't know. I would probably, I'd probably
• 1:09:45
  take a lot of these stupid programs that are unnecessary
• 1:09:48
  down on a lot of these political agendas that are wasting money
• 1:09:52
  and resources and I would concentrate on the climate.
• 1:09:56
  I would also concentrate on education because I think a more
• 1:10:00
  educated Siding means that you're going to have a better
• 1:10:03
  civilization and also the more education, the more kind of jobs
• 1:10:08
  that will come out. The more inventors, you get, you
• 1:10:11
  know, the more people with ambition, the problem with our
• 1:10:14
  world now is the education shit and our politics are absolutely
• 1:10:20
  corrupt. And now kids when they go to
• 1:10:22
  school they're thinking damn wide.
• 1:10:24
  Should I even bother doing any of this?
• 1:10:26
  I'm not going to have a job to go to when I get out of here and
• 1:10:29
  I'll be in fucking debt for the rest of Of my life, once I go to
• 1:10:32
  college or whatever, so it makes people feel like there's no
• 1:10:36
  future for them. They're concentrating all the
• 1:10:40
  time on how they're going to survive as opposed to what they
• 1:10:43
  can invent or create or do. That's good.
• 1:10:46
  That's the world we live in. That's why I say new could all
• 1:10:48
  do full reset. Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  What Vaughn? Be your VP.
• 1:10:56
  Well I don't know Vaughn would care to be the VP I mean if I'm
• 1:11:00
  gonna nuke everything what the hell's the point you know I mean
• 1:11:06
  it's like hey man you want to be my vice president.
• 1:11:09
  Hey ghost man let's get you elected you're going to be the
• 1:11:11
  vice president and five minutes from now I'm going to blow the
• 1:11:13
  shit up. You can be like well that sucks.
• 1:11:17
  Let me go get my mom a hug. Yeah.
• 1:11:24
  Gilbert ctor. Zod comic.
• 1:11:28
  Never seen TT Awards. What comic book?
• 1:11:33
  Oh yeah. He showed me the cover of it and
• 1:11:36
  told me a little bit about it I haven't got to like, open up the
• 1:11:39
  book and look at the pages. I just got to see the cover and
• 1:11:43
  a brief summary. What it was about.
• 1:11:46
  It sounds good and he's also have a a quarter.
• 1:11:53
  He's a what he also have a. Website called quarter.
• 1:12:00
  Yeah, I've used it. I actually uploaded a few videos
• 1:12:03
  to it. Unfortunately, the thing is real
• 1:12:05
  and I told TTR this, I said the shit is slow whenever I try to
• 1:12:10
  login and I try to do something, the page is take forever to load
• 1:12:15
  and then uploads take way too long, something that's five
• 1:12:18
  minutes. Could take up to 30 minutes and
• 1:12:21
  he keeps saying he's going to fix it and I suppose I'll be
• 1:12:24
  patient giving time but right now Now, it's unacceptable for
• 1:12:28
  my patients. What would you do if you bought
• 1:12:33
  Facebook? You're on Facebook but Facebook.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah. You they gave Facebook to you
• 1:12:41
  though. Now, I've hired some people to
• 1:12:44
  get rid of all the scammers and all the assholes who are
• 1:12:48
  constantly adding people on the friendless to her wanting money
• 1:12:52
  and trying to bullshit people. I would also get rid of the a
• 1:12:57
  lot of the TOs and everything like that.
• 1:12:59
  Only my terms of service would be as long as you ain't making
• 1:13:03
  threats or trying to harm. Anybody say what you want,
• 1:13:06
  share? What pictures you want to do and
• 1:13:09
  and that's it because seems to me that if you don't want to see
• 1:13:12
  See certain shit on Facebook. If you don't want to look to
• 1:13:15
  somebody's face, I was going to do is block them.
• 1:13:18
  So there's no reason to completely remove someone's
• 1:13:21
  page. Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  And what do you keep unseen? Yeah yeah I'm Facebook.
• 1:13:31
  Do so hurts a lot, these other type of scammers or they tried.
• 1:13:35
  Get your name and get into your stuff.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah. I've had a lot of people try to
• 1:13:41
  do that to me on Facebook, just before I did my live streams and
• 1:13:45
  talk to some people on their streams.
• 1:13:47
  I went over to Facebook and I had all these hassles or you're
• 1:13:50
  like, hey, how's your day? Do you got cash app?
• 1:13:53
  You got this. Sudden I'm like look fuck face
• 1:13:56
  and not interested in your scam or what you're selling, you
• 1:13:59
  added me. And then the first thing you
• 1:14:01
  start asking me is how I go about doing Financial
• 1:14:04
  transactions, go fuck yourself. I don't play with that.
• 1:14:07
  Kind of shit pisses me off. Yeah, I think I say you won a
• 1:14:13
  lot of money. Stand like yeah they'll tell you
• 1:14:18
  that they're going to give you like thousands of bucks for you
• 1:14:21
  at the pay the transaction fee and my bullshit I got PayPal.
• 1:14:25
  If you got three thousand dollars you wouldn't throw away
• 1:14:27
  and you just click on my fucking link and send the money.
• 1:14:30
  I ain't paying no damn fees. What's wrong with you?
• 1:14:33
  If somebody actually has three thousand dollars to give away,
• 1:14:37
  then they can pay the fucking transaction fee.
• 1:14:39
  They can simply take the 30 bucks out of the transaction,
• 1:14:43
  are the money that they were going to give you and use that
• 1:14:45
  for it. See that It's a complete Nutter
• 1:14:47
  scam. Sadly there's little old ladies
• 1:14:50
  and kids that don't know any better, they think oh wow make
• 1:14:54
  it three thousand dollars and then they get fucked to get
• 1:14:56
  thirty dollars, stolen from him. Why don't Facebook go after
• 1:15:05
  those people more? well, I think the Facebook
• 1:15:10
  claims that they're trying but people use Bots, they use
• 1:15:15
  artificial intelligence, he's all kinds of shit, and these
• 1:15:19
  people are just persistent, got a bunch of Asians and people
• 1:15:22
  from other countries who are jumping on their great and these
• 1:15:25
  profiles making it appear as though, they're actual people,
• 1:15:29
  unless you report them or tell Facebook what's going on
• 1:15:32
  Facebook, isn't going to know Yeah, Facebook's messed up.
• 1:15:39
  Do you remember Myspace? Yeah, used to use that.
• 1:15:44
  That's one of the ugliest ass websites ever seen in my life.
• 1:15:48
  It was terrible. It was awful.
• 1:15:50
  But I used it because it was like one of the only social
• 1:15:52
  media sites back then. But as soon as they started,
• 1:15:55
  creating better shit, I was gone like the wind It's weird.
• 1:16:01
  Facebook. Myspace is still around.
• 1:16:04
  I heard. I'm probably is some people
• 1:16:09
  don't mind. Ugly is what it is.
• 1:16:15
  Have you ever played any of the odd?
• 1:16:17
  Newest model comment. I seen my son play, the newest
• 1:16:22
  Mortal Kombat and it looked pretty neat.
• 1:16:25
  He had like the Terminator and Rambo fight and all that.
• 1:16:28
  That was kind of cool. Very nostalgic and RoboCop.
• 1:16:34
  Yeah, yeah. Didn't get to see, RoboCop him
• 1:16:38
  do RoboCop but I did get to see him play.
• 1:16:40
  Other characters looks real good.
• 1:16:43
  I'm not really in the fighting game so but I'll watch my son.
• 1:16:47
  Play Spider-Man and mortal. Bat and all the newer stuff.
• 1:16:54
  The adder one before that had DLC of letter face, Jason Amy
• 1:16:59
  and predator. Mmm.
• 1:17:04
  That crazy were singing Jason and the Predator.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, lot of faith and a knee enthrall DLC for MKX all coming.
• 1:17:17
  No I have said my son had the vanilla version of it and a
• 1:17:22
  couple little expansions like those characters I mentioned
• 1:17:26
  that's about it. As far as that goes, I've seen
• 1:17:29
  the movies of Mortal Kombat. I've seen the cartoons of It's
• 1:17:33
  been weird CGI animations on YouTube but it's just not a game
• 1:17:39
  that I really get into used to play.
• 1:17:41
  The the old like two dimensional version back in the day but like
• 1:17:46
  I said my eyesight's too bad for that that's too quick.
• 1:17:49
  Used to play a action game while back called Killer Instinct.
• 1:17:54
  You probably heard some of my intros have Killer Instinct but
• 1:17:57
  I loved the music and sound track of it.
• 1:18:00
  Have you played the newest parents thing?
• 1:18:06
  You said what about? Uranus have you played the New
• 1:18:09
  Killer Instinct? No, I haven't played the new
• 1:18:13
  one. I've played the old version back
• 1:18:16
  on. Like PlayStation 3.
• 1:18:17
  Those ugly little gray boxes and shit.
• 1:18:20
  Yeah. New one have DLC.
• 1:18:22
  We could get the all you ever heard Battletoads.
• 1:18:27
  No, I never use any battle codes for it.
• 1:18:31
  I mean, they got DLC for headers of.
• 1:18:33
  I heard her rumors or kochba have more kind of a Karen state
• 1:18:39
  that would have been awesome. Yeah, I remember doing that
• 1:18:45
  whenever I was playing the old, Killer Instinct doing the Combos
• 1:18:49
  and combinations. People did not like playing me
• 1:18:52
  and Killer Instinct. That was really good at it.
• 1:18:54
  I can jump across the screen and kick him like 50 fucking times
• 1:18:58
  before they could even say something.
• 1:19:01
  So I didn't have a whole lot of people.
• 1:19:03
  I was able to play that game with.
• 1:19:07
  Mr. Morden says mr. Morton says, I never used
• 1:19:11
  Facebook because it creeped me out.
• 1:19:12
  When it started emailing people in my context.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah, that's another problem with Facebook.
• 1:19:18
  It's very persistent. A lot of aggravation, a lot of
• 1:19:23
  bullshit, I had a lot of people who added me in the only added
• 1:19:29
  me because they wanted to fucking leave nasty shit in my
• 1:19:31
  comments. But luckily, Facebook is
• 1:19:34
  actually pretty good whenever come Comes the privacy and
• 1:19:37
  security. I was able to make it to where
• 1:19:39
  only really good friends or we're able in certain people
• 1:19:43
  could make comments on my page. So that was nice.
• 1:19:46
  That was helpful. The new, we like to see the new
• 1:19:51
  Mario movie coming on. It looks good.
• 1:19:54
  And be honest with you, I like the actor who is playing the
• 1:19:59
  Mario character, and I kind of like the one who's playing King
• 1:20:01
  Koopa but Mario I had Phase where I played it a long time
• 1:20:08
  ago and I watched the first version of the movie and it was
• 1:20:12
  shit. It was absolute garbage.
• 1:20:15
  I hated the original Super Mario.
• 1:20:18
  Movie was so stupid in the land, so I don't know.
• 1:20:21
  I whenever it comes to Mario, he's such a cookie cutter
• 1:20:25
  character. He's a plumber.
• 1:20:27
  He's trying to get some pussy off.
• 1:20:29
  A princess. It doesn't really work for me.
• 1:20:31
  It's kind of a boring concept. Hey water, what's up?
• 1:20:37
  Hey how's it going right? I'm just yelling at a guy.
• 1:20:41
  Come in here earlier with a ninja outfit.
• 1:20:43
  He wanted to talk and he seemed all right I had this suspicious
• 1:20:47
  feeling he wanted to go off but I guess he started feeling like
• 1:20:51
  I was so cool. He decided to act like a normal
• 1:20:53
  human being, it's always good when the primates controlled
• 1:20:56
  himself, had another guy. He wanted to tell me what
• 1:20:59
  science claims and I kept giving them a NASA website.
• 1:21:03
  When NASA tells you some shit about the Universe I usually
• 1:21:06
  stand up A notice that, you know what I mean?
• 1:21:09
  He he he end up taking off from you know he didn't want to talk
• 1:21:14
  about fucking Super Mario Brothers and Killer Instinct
• 1:21:17
  like my buddy goes man wants to do yeah it's pretty funny that
• 1:21:22
  you can sounds like a troll showed up and once I actually
• 1:21:26
  got the talking to you, they decided it wasn't worth it to do
• 1:21:29
  any trolling. Well, I've had some people
• 1:21:32
  who've done that in the past where they come in and you could
• 1:21:35
  tell they wanted to do something or say something, and sometimes
• 1:21:39
  I ended up making friends with people.
• 1:21:41
  Sometimes I was able to they talk to me long enough where
• 1:21:45
  they were like, hey, this is pretty cool.
• 1:21:46
  You know, I actually get to interact with folks because you
• 1:21:49
  gotta think about it. I'm one of the only motherfucker
• 1:21:52
  zarn, the YouTube who does consistent live streams where I
• 1:21:58
  allow people to come in. So, Socialize and make friends
• 1:22:02
  and participate, whether you like me or not, you're going to
• 1:22:04
  make you fucking friend or two. You might even get your
• 1:22:07
  girlfriend, that you'll end up marrying one day, but they can't
• 1:22:10
  get that anywhere else. Have you ever looked on the
• 1:22:12
  front of YouTube? Trying to find a live chat?
• 1:22:14
  You're either going to hear some Muslim fucking howling, like a
• 1:22:18
  dying dog. Are you going to be here in
• 1:22:20
  techno music radio or some shit? There's literally nothing.
• 1:22:25
  And if somebody does open up a live room, they're not going to
• 1:22:29
  let anybody in there. Just To sit on a screen and cry
• 1:22:31
  about their fucking problems all day.
• 1:22:34
  Do you like I do folks when you feeling sad or depressed or feel
• 1:22:37
  like driving off the fucking Bridge?
• 1:22:39
  Just make a video real quick, get it out of your system and
• 1:22:43
  then go watch a fucking movie. That's how I do it.
• 1:22:45
  Go ahead. What do you think water?
• 1:22:51
  Is that a good philosophy or not?
• 1:22:53
  I think it's a good philosophy. I think it's funny.
• 1:22:57
  You know, I miss the old felt like back in the earlier days of
• 1:23:02
  the internet it was more chat oriented you can find chat rooms
• 1:23:06
  and places to talk to people. And now it's been relegated to
• 1:23:10
  social media websites where you can still talk to people.
• 1:23:13
  But it's not in that sort of live way that a chat room was
• 1:23:17
  or, you know, YouTube or Google Hangout was I found like three
• 1:23:23
  rooms where people had their link out there stream yards link
• 1:23:28
  and it said join the room. And then I joined and they're
• 1:23:31
  like, who the fuck is this? Bright Keane?
• 1:23:33
  Who the fuck is this and shit? And they start getting all like
• 1:23:37
  worked up and then they kicked me out, but I did go to this one
• 1:23:40
  room and there's a bunch of women in it, and I seen my face,
• 1:23:44
  I guessing figured I wasn't a fucking Sasquatch, they let me
• 1:23:48
  up and we had a great conversation for about an hour
• 1:23:50
  and a half and In fact, they actually told their subscribers,
• 1:23:53
  they should go over and suddenly, they said I was a cool
• 1:23:55
  motherfucker. So that was cool that made me
• 1:23:58
  feel good for a moment. It's nice to know.
• 1:24:04
  It's good to find. There are people out there still
• 1:24:06
  holding these kind of talks. Unfortunately, I did have one
• 1:24:12
  little incident after the stream was over and I was getting along
• 1:24:16
  with these people. I left a comment on that stream
• 1:24:18
  and I said it was really, really enjoyable.
• 1:24:21
  Talk to you. You're very pleasant person and
• 1:24:24
  I hope you have a wonderful day and she hearted me up and said,
• 1:24:28
  oh, I appreciate you, you're really cool and all that I can't
• 1:24:31
  wait to talk to you again and then some prick decided.
• 1:24:34
  I don't, I don't know how these people do it, because there's no
• 1:24:37
  feed on YouTube anymore, right? But for some reason, there's
• 1:24:41
  always some kind of atheist asshole.
• 1:24:43
  Let's just finds me on the internet and put, hey you're
• 1:24:47
  going to love talking to Brody likes to beat the fuck out of
• 1:24:50
  women and that something. So that was nice.
• 1:24:53
  I mean I just had an enjoyable conversation and then some
• 1:24:56
  beatable human being comes along and start fucking talking like
• 1:24:59
  that. So hateful.
• 1:25:04
  Yeah. Unfortunately people with people
• 1:25:07
  that used to have a large platform decided to make it
• 1:25:10
  their mission to smear you and it seems like the that stuff is
• 1:25:15
  still out there and some people still find it, don't understand
• 1:25:18
  that. It's true.
• 1:25:19
  And they don't they don't go back, far enough and watch
• 1:25:23
  everything to really get the full picture.
• 1:25:25
  They just hear one person talking and they go.
• 1:25:27
  Okay. That must be the case.
• 1:25:30
  No, I know. I understand that there's a lot
• 1:25:32
  of people with antisocial disorders and shit like that.
• 1:25:35
  I put my my phone number out there water, I get people who
• 1:25:39
  call and they're just fucking absolute clowns.
• 1:25:42
  I've talked to psychopath sociopaths people who are, you
• 1:25:47
  know, like high functioning autists and everything else.
• 1:25:50
  So yeah, I'm kind of to the point where I'm not even
• 1:25:53
  surprised anymore. Nowadays is somebody says
• 1:25:57
  something ignorant to me, I'm just Like, well I love you too.
• 1:25:59
  Have a good fucking day. So water, what's on your mind?
• 1:26:08
  If you don't start talking or giving me a topic G meant mr.
• 1:26:12
  Grossman is gonna start talking about Super Mario again, you
• 1:26:17
  know, I saw the trailer for the movie and I don't think I'm
• 1:26:20
  going to see it. Yeah, I'm not feeling it.
• 1:26:23
  And, you know, what's really sad, water.
• 1:26:25
  I remember the days when ever, they would do a trailer like
• 1:26:29
  Star Trek or something, or Star Wars, and I would get so fucking
• 1:26:33
  excited. I'd start making plans to go to
• 1:26:36
  the movie theater. It's nowadays.
• 1:26:39
  Movies are so shit, so much carbs.
• 1:26:43
  I don't even go to the fucking movies anymore.
• 1:26:45
  I just wait till it comes out on DVD because you know what?
• 1:26:49
  It makes me fucking feel homicidal.
• 1:26:51
  If Why buy or rent the fucking movie?
• 1:26:53
  I spent five bucks on it and it turns out to be absolute
• 1:26:57
  dogshit. I feel like I got played, like,
• 1:26:59
  I got scammed or something. I feel like I need to go up to
• 1:27:02
  the company and ask, whoop, somebody.
• 1:27:04
  You know what I mean? I feel you.
• 1:27:07
  It's pretty frustrating to buy one, not knowing what it is, and
• 1:27:10
  it's absolute dog. Should you remember what the
• 1:27:12
  last movie you saw in a theater? Was the last movie?
• 1:27:18
  I seen was actually awesome. My son.
• 1:27:21
  He wanted to take me out, he said, look dad, you know, who my
• 1:27:25
  favorite superhero is and I want you to come with me to see it
• 1:27:29
  and it turned out to be Spider-Man with all the
• 1:27:32
  Spider-Man's coming out. I get mixed up with the movies
• 1:27:35
  because New home, fuck home shed home.
• 1:27:38
  There's so many homes, nowadays with the new version of
• 1:27:41
  Spider-Man, but we went to see it.
• 1:27:44
  It had all the bad guys in there.
• 1:27:45
  That had all the old Tobey Maguire in it and the new guy
• 1:27:51
  The Amazing Spider-Man I was like, this is fucking awesome.
• 1:27:55
  We loved it. I ended up buying that shot.
• 1:27:57
  I was like this is where fucking $20 people.
• 1:28:02
  Yeah that one was really good. I like that one a lot in
• 1:28:04
  Spider-Man's my favorite as well but you know a lot of the Marvel
• 1:28:09
  movies don't do it for me. I don't know why.
• 1:28:12
  I just seems like a lot of them are the same thing over and over
• 1:28:17
  again. I can understand that I've
• 1:28:21
  always been into never really, whenever I was a kid, I wasn't
• 1:28:25
  in the Captain America, and to me, Iron Man was absolute
• 1:28:29
  fucking bullshit. A guy in a metal suit.
• 1:28:31
  I could give a fuck laughs. I already had Batman already had
• 1:28:35
  Superman so I didn't need those more of a DC, bitch, but then
• 1:28:39
  Marvel put Robert Downey jr. As Iron Man.
• 1:28:43
  And as far as I'm concerned, that was worth watching and shut
• 1:28:46
  and the guy who ended up playing cat.
• 1:28:48
  In America, you was interesting enough to actually watch.
• 1:28:52
  I like the Avengers all the way up to the point of the fanos
• 1:28:55
  thing. But after that it was like,
• 1:28:58
  fuck, this is weak sauce, this is shit.
• 1:29:01
  And you know, why don't you? It's because they're not even
• 1:29:05
  trying to stick with the fucking more the storyline anymore.
• 1:29:08
  They just want to put a bunch of what they called diversity in
• 1:29:12
  there and replace the characters with a bunch of bullshit.
• 1:29:15
  Be right actors and stuff that You know, that they're not going
• 1:29:19
  to succeed in winning over the audience because if you've got a
• 1:29:23
  character that you've loved for 50 fucking years and then decide
• 1:29:28
  to replace him with a woman, no matter how cute she is, that's
• 1:29:31
  going to piss people off. People are passionate, it's like
• 1:29:34
  a fucking religion them. Yeah, people are passionate
• 1:29:38
  about it. It's it has kind of been
• 1:29:41
  interesting to see how the second phase after they did the
• 1:29:44
  whole Fano Sark has been a lot less well received.
• 1:29:49
  It's been pretty funny to read about it.
• 1:29:51
  I get a lot of my news about it on Reddit and people are upset.
• 1:29:55
  People don't like it. The only thing that's not the
• 1:29:59
  only thing that's given me a little bit of what marble, have
• 1:30:02
  a little bit of a slide on this. The only thing is that I Lies
• 1:30:07
  when you watch the series, going all the way up to Thanos,
• 1:30:12
  something like that, where the fucking universe is literally
• 1:30:15
  destroyed and heroes are wiped out.
• 1:30:18
  I mean, you got to ask yourself where the fuck do you go from
• 1:30:21
  there? I mean, where do you go?
• 1:30:24
  After you got a guy who can snap his fingers and make everything
• 1:30:27
  go away, you got to be a really creative person to come up with
• 1:30:31
  that shit, they really hit it out of the fucking ball park and
• 1:30:35
  I think that's what the problem. M is at least in that case for
• 1:30:38
  marble and plus marble is got a bunch of pussy Riders up there
• 1:30:43
  that are very imaginative, so that makes it worse.
• 1:30:49
  Yeah, it's I really don't know where they're going to go from
• 1:30:52
  here because they're not even halfway through this second part
• 1:30:57
  of the story. And it's not looking too good
• 1:30:59
  for them. Well, you have about excited
• 1:31:03
  about that. The only the only superhero
• 1:31:05
  movie. I'm actually looking forward to
• 1:31:08
  to be honest with you water and only one, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:31:12
  I was excited when I thought Henry Cavill was coming back but
• 1:31:15
  then they fucked him in the ass. But the one that really got me
• 1:31:19
  excited that they are going to produce his Wolverine vs
• 1:31:22
  Deadpool or they're going to work with each other.
• 1:31:25
  That is what I need to see. It does sound good.
• 1:31:30
  I'm looking forward to that one. Have you heard about the new DC?
• 1:31:35
  The rebooting the whole DC franchise.
• 1:31:38
  I heard about that. That's a terrible fucking idea.
• 1:31:41
  It's horrible. I was so looking forward to
• 1:31:45
  Henry Cavill being Superman. I know he walked away from The
• 1:31:49
  Witcher he got. He basically is out of a job and
• 1:31:52
  he's told that he's going to be doing Superman, and I actually
• 1:31:56
  liked the black Adam, you gotta understand though, folks,
• 1:32:00
  anybody's listening out there. I didn't ever give a fuck about
• 1:32:03
  the Black Adam at all. I never cared about the
• 1:32:07
  character. But the here that there's going
• 1:32:09
  to be a cameo that's going to lead into more movies with
• 1:32:12
  Superman and all that. I figured why not I liked Wayne
• 1:32:16
  Johnson. I don't have high expectations
• 1:32:19
  when I watch a rock movie. So when I went in to go watch it
• 1:32:22
  I was figuring out, it's going to be some action but as a
• 1:32:26
  really going to matter who gives a shit But let's just have some
• 1:32:28
  fun and the movie actually turned out to be a lot better
• 1:32:32
  than what. I thought it was going to be
• 1:32:33
  plus it had James Bond on it. Yeah, it was good.
• 1:32:39
  It was good. I watched it was fun and I had
• 1:32:43
  not really seen many of the DC movies.
• 1:32:45
  I've only seen a few, but it didn't really seem like there
• 1:32:48
  was much story in between the two.
• 1:32:50
  I felt like I was able to keep keep along with the movie just
• 1:32:54
  fine. Although you did watch The
• 1:32:58
  Batman series, right? I like it all the way back to
• 1:33:01
  Michael Keaton. I think Tim Burton give it a,
• 1:33:04
  give it a shot and Jack Nicholson did a find Joker and
• 1:33:08
  then those whole new versions of Batman where what was it?
• 1:33:12
  Chris Nolan or something? Fucking great ass Batman movies.
• 1:33:17
  I really like that. And I thought they were on
• 1:33:19
  something with Man of Steel. Yeah, I like the Man of Steel
• 1:33:25
  and I love the, I like the Christopher Nolan, Batman movies
• 1:33:28
  a lot. Yeah, it was good shit.
• 1:33:33
  And that's another thing too, with with Batman Heath Ledger's,
• 1:33:38
  performance was, so fucking extraordinary, you know, people
• 1:33:42
  were like who's going to be the next Joker and the best I could
• 1:33:46
  come up with was that suicide version of The Joker.
• 1:33:49
  I'm like, the Joker's never been a fucking gangster.
• 1:33:52
  He's never been a gangster. He doesn't have fucking gold
• 1:33:56
  teeth and Tattoos. What the hell are they thinking?
• 1:33:58
  This is bullshit. The best Joker that came out.
• 1:34:02
  With his the new one with Phoenix, it wasn't as exciting
• 1:34:06
  when what everybody hyped it up to me but it was good enough to
• 1:34:10
  entertain my ass. Yeah.
• 1:34:15
  It was it was the new one was good.
• 1:34:18
  They're making a sequel. Apparently it's going to have
• 1:34:21
  Lady Gaga in it as Harley Quinn and it's going to be a musical.
• 1:34:27
  A musical. That's what they're saying.
• 1:34:32
  And I like lately, I like Lady Gaga.
• 1:34:36
  And some of her movies and shit, she did this one where she was
• 1:34:40
  a, you know, doing some kind of song or whatever.
• 1:34:43
  I forget, what the hell it's called, but it had a star is
• 1:34:46
  born. Yeah, I thought that, that was
• 1:34:48
  really good. Me and my wife ended up crying
• 1:34:50
  like a bunch of pussies when watching.
• 1:34:52
  That one was sad, but it was good.
• 1:34:56
  He Yeah, looks like G man. G man, took off on his not
• 1:35:04
  G-Man, but ghostman he, if he doesn't get attention and like
• 1:35:08
  five fucking minutes, he's gone. That's how he does it.
• 1:35:13
  I mean he had plenty of room to talk.
• 1:35:17
  If he wanted to, he doesn't really have.
• 1:35:20
  Unfortunately, my buddy goes, man.
• 1:35:22
  He doesn't know how to have a conversation, he'll just ask you
• 1:35:25
  repeated questions. What do you think about
• 1:35:28
  pantyhose, Brett? What do you think about pink
• 1:35:31
  soft? I mean, just goes on like that.
• 1:35:34
  There's he never liked expresses.
• 1:35:36
  How he feels about a movie or are gives his fucking input on
• 1:35:40
  anything. How do you feel about Mortal
• 1:35:42
  Kombat brat? Well fatality.
• 1:35:45
  A tortoise motherfuckers head off.
• 1:35:47
  What do you do? I like it.
• 1:35:49
  Okay, I guess it's So you speak speaking of G-Man, I know you're
• 1:35:58
  Miss saying his name, have you? I mean, his G-Men still around.
• 1:36:02
  Yeah, actually invited me to a live stream yesterday on his
• 1:36:06
  channel and I went over there, and I was sitting in the panel
• 1:36:11
  weight and everything, and he brought me in and nobody else
• 1:36:15
  was there, yet. He hadn't went Fully live.
• 1:36:17
  You just sent out the link and I talked to him for a little bit
• 1:36:20
  and he said, hey man, he goes, I think Really starting to dig me
• 1:36:25
  and respect me now and I said, dude, the only reason they're
• 1:36:28
  being nice to you right now because you're kicking the shit
• 1:36:30
  out of Chamois and rub. They like to see you guys break
• 1:36:33
  up his friends and all that. That's the only reason why the
• 1:36:35
  Rootin tootin. I said, give it about fucking
• 1:36:38
  ten minutes and they'll go and shit on you again and start
• 1:36:41
  making some more videos. And I also told him if he ever
• 1:36:44
  wants to, if he's ever have any problems, he can just get a hold
• 1:36:48
  of me and we can talk and everything.
• 1:36:50
  Not everything has to be live performance.
• 1:36:53
  Now, I told Old me said Brett if you come back and forth, I'm
• 1:36:56
  going to go live. So I did I came back and I heard
• 1:37:00
  all these people arguing about a slavery endorsed in the Bible
• 1:37:04
  and I'm like not this fucking conversation again because
• 1:37:08
  that's what that's the one of the big topics they like to do
• 1:37:11
  is like the Muslims always want to talk about the Trinity.
• 1:37:15
  I was like, man, fuck this. I'm going to go watch a
• 1:37:17
  superhero movie. Yeah, Muslims do always want to
• 1:37:21
  talk about the Trinity, don't they?
• 1:37:23
  It's a It's something. I've gotten tired of, I mean, as
• 1:37:29
  much as you know, we should love the Trinity and it's an, it's
• 1:37:36
  really is, you know, an awesome part of God's existence.
• 1:37:40
  It's kind of frustrating to have to defend it all the time if
• 1:37:44
  you're talking to a Muslim. Yeah, that's all they seem to be
• 1:37:48
  into and I got, I ended up going into a couple shows with some
• 1:37:52
  Muslims and it was all Muslims and me.
• 1:37:55
  Me and like a Christian who sounded like, he had anxiety and
• 1:37:59
  was nervous to talk to the Muslims and shit.
• 1:38:02
  And they said, well, you know, it's not necessary for God to
• 1:38:06
  come down as a man, and I said, well wasn't necessary according
• 1:38:09
  to Quran, for God, to come represent himself as a burning
• 1:38:12
  bush to Moses either, which is also in the Bible.
• 1:38:16
  So does that mean that never actually happened and they got
• 1:38:19
  pissed off at me for that, but it's the truth.
• 1:38:22
  So it is what it is. You have you found any any
• 1:38:32
  atheist apart from Adam more that are willing to talk to Kent
• 1:38:36
  hovind. I saw your think it was in one
• 1:38:39
  of your videos. You were talking about that.
• 1:38:42
  It's tough water trying to get atheist to actually come in and
• 1:38:47
  do a live discussion with them because some of them act like
• 1:38:50
  they're elitist, like they're too fucking good to do a debate,
• 1:38:54
  everybody's in voluble or worthless and all that kind of
• 1:38:57
  shit that's their attitude about it.
• 1:39:00
  Or you get these atheists and no, they don't have shit on Kent
• 1:39:03
  hovind. So they won't, they don't want
• 1:39:05
  to go against them. They get scared.
• 1:39:07
  And then there's these other ones who they just want to do
• 1:39:10
  personal attacks. And All the way down the fucking
• 1:39:13
  line, it's just ridiculous, it's terrible.
• 1:39:16
  But I got like maybe three people that maybe a deal.
• 1:39:21
  The problem, the one problem is. There's this one guy who seems
• 1:39:24
  like, he's kind of smart that he can carry on a conversation.
• 1:39:28
  The problem is that he's fucking long-winded to the point where
• 1:39:31
  you have suicidal thoughts, and I don't want to put Kent into a
• 1:39:35
  conversation with a guy who needs to give 10 fucking
• 1:39:39
  analogies for a simplified. Scepter, so he can sound smarter
• 1:39:43
  than the mic. Yeah, you need it for an order
• 1:39:50
  for a debate to be, you know, work listening to both.
• 1:39:53
  People need to be able to speak in a condensed amount of time
• 1:39:56
  and take turns it's not going to work if someone's just talking
• 1:39:59
  the entire time events. So you know, I'm no water.
• 1:40:02
  That's the issue standing for truth.
• 1:40:05
  He doesn't debate Channel where Kent goes to all the time and
• 1:40:08
  their time I tried to, whenever I get a debate going, like, with
• 1:40:13
  Adam lower, it was supposed to be just a discussion.
• 1:40:17
  They just hang out with each other.
• 1:40:18
  Like two Bros, drink coffee, have a good time.
• 1:40:22
  Eat bacon if you want be kosher whatever the fucking deal is and
• 1:40:26
  just have a good conversation because I feel like more can
• 1:40:29
  happen in that type of thing when you're not pushed or under
• 1:40:33
  pressure and shit like that. And Adam and Kent had the one of
• 1:40:37
  the best fucking discussions. But I've heard between a theist
• 1:40:41
  and I'm an atheist one of the greatest ones of all times but
• 1:40:45
  you can't find a lot of non-believers Those who are
• 1:40:48
  capable fucking controlling their behavior.
• 1:40:50
  They think they come from a primate and then they proceeded
• 1:40:53
  to act like one. I will not, I will not argue
• 1:41:00
  that. A lot of them don't know how to
• 1:41:03
  act, you know, I would actually, I would be willing to I know, I
• 1:41:08
  know I wouldn't fit as an atheist, but if it's the topic
• 1:41:12
  is evolution, I would definitely be willing to talk to Kent
• 1:41:15
  hovind about that. The thing is though, I know he
• 1:41:20
  would want, I would rather it Center on Evolution than say
• 1:41:25
  some, you know, when we spoke Couple days ago, we covered
• 1:41:29
  Evolution and then we also covered what it means to be a
• 1:41:33
  Christian and not interpret Genesis literally, and I think
• 1:41:37
  those subjects are connected, but if it was a debate, I would
• 1:41:40
  rather keep it, you know, focused on the one topic of
• 1:41:44
  evolution being true or not. True.
• 1:41:47
  Wonder, I got to ask you something because I could very
• 1:41:50
  well set, that up Ken, Tobin is told me repeatedly on the phone.
• 1:41:55
  I'll debate anybody, he had said on my It shows he goes, I love
• 1:42:00
  it. Can't literally loves this shit,
• 1:42:03
  he enjoys it if you inviting Mountain, you say look it.
• 1:42:07
  So I think that discussion he's fucking ready to rock and roll.
• 1:42:10
  He's got his guitar ready, he's ready to start a band.
• 1:42:13
  That's how his attitude is. So I could very well get you
• 1:42:17
  into the discussion with him, but I do have to ask you
• 1:42:20
  something, and I don't want to personally thinned you on this
• 1:42:24
  now water, you know, I've been around for 20 years and I've had
• 1:42:28
  Countless atheist troll me or they feel like they can't come
• 1:42:31
  at me with the label atheist. Sometimes I've had atheist who
• 1:42:35
  claimed to be theist or religious, so they can get in
• 1:42:38
  the room because they had this weird idea that I'll treat them
• 1:42:42
  funny. If they come into the room, I
• 1:42:44
  got to ask you, are you truly a theist?
• 1:42:47
  Do you truly believe in God? Are you serious?
• 1:42:49
  About what you're talking about? I'm not going to hate on you.
• 1:42:52
  If you tell me different, No, I'm a Catholic.
• 1:42:56
  I converted to Catholicism and my sophomore year of high
• 1:42:59
  school, and I've been a Catholic since I'm now about to graduate
• 1:43:05
  from University. So it's been, you know, six or
• 1:43:08
  seven years. The reason why I ask that is
• 1:43:13
  because one of the first like red flags that went off, was you
• 1:43:17
  said, you used to watch a bunch of stupid shit on YouTube
• 1:43:20
  involving me. And I get a lot of these old,
• 1:43:23
  former DP fans who come in and they do that kind of thing to
• 1:43:27
  me. So I get suspicious.
• 1:43:29
  I had to ask No, it's a I mean it's a, it's a fair question.
• 1:43:35
  I can understand why you would be vicious.
• 1:43:37
  I mean it's funny because I was a fan of you know DP when I
• 1:43:44
  first started high school. But by the time I had graduated
• 1:43:48
  I like I didn't realize that the that show had ended until you
• 1:43:52
  know a year or so after they had broken up and split because I
• 1:43:56
  had not been watching for so long it was it was Nothing.
• 1:44:02
  I had moved away from before I ended up converting, but By the
• 1:44:08
  time that I, you know, was going through confirmation.
• 1:44:12
  I mean, I had moved on to regular, you know, science
• 1:44:17
  videos. I don't know if you ever heard
• 1:44:19
  of a Vsauce, that's one of my favorite YouTubers that I had
• 1:44:24
  gotten into around that time. So what are you do?
• 1:44:30
  Realize you probably at this point seeing, a few debates by
• 1:44:33
  Ken told them, I like you, I think you're a good guy and I
• 1:44:37
  enjoy having the conversation with you, whatever your label is
• 1:44:40
  that your view is But Ken Tobin's, not the type of guy
• 1:44:44
  that's kind of like put up with some kind of like rhetoric or
• 1:44:48
  bullshit. If you say something he thinks
• 1:44:50
  is wrong, he's going to come after you Full Throttle.
• 1:44:53
  Are you sure that you want to do it?
• 1:44:55
  He'll he's a fun guy and he's open-minded and Anil joke with
• 1:44:59
  you and have a good discussion. But if you say something that's
• 1:45:02
  fucked up or that he doesn't agree with, he likes to make
• 1:45:05
  sure he nails at home. Well, can you handle that kind
• 1:45:09
  of pressure? Yeah, I mean I feel like the
• 1:45:16
  conversation we had the other day when I mean it doesn't
• 1:45:20
  didn't feel that far off from what you're describing.
• 1:45:22
  I mean you and Proverbs were both going at me and you know,
• 1:45:26
  back and forth. So Right, right, okay, it's fine
• 1:45:33
  with me. Let me open up my browser real
• 1:45:36
  quick and I'll type to mom talking to you.
• 1:45:39
  Let him know. I'll text him on the phone.
• 1:45:41
  Okay, if you'd be interested, he's got a couple debate, set up
• 1:45:45
  over and standing for truth, but I'll see if you'd be interested.
• 1:45:50
  See what he's got? Boy, you can tell anyone.
• 1:45:54
  We definitely something that I would like to Okay.
• 1:45:59
  Yeah it's definitely something I would like to prepare for and I
• 1:46:02
  would definitely like for us to agree on.
• 1:46:04
  I mean maybe the topic is is evolution true or not?
• 1:46:08
  True, I'm not sure but you know get you not get a unanimous
• 1:46:12
  agreement on the on the topic and I would like to be able to
• 1:46:16
  prepare for it but yeah. Absolutely down for that I don't
• 1:46:20
  mind being you know argued with or having my beliefs challenged.
• 1:46:25
  I think as someone who has had Had you know such a deep.
• 1:46:30
  And I'm sure you could probably relate to this too.
• 1:46:33
  Brett as someone who's had a big, you know, shift in what I
• 1:46:40
  believe and kind of from one side to the other.
• 1:46:43
  I think in my own mind it It prepares me for hard questions
• 1:46:50
  because I've asked myself hard questions and eventually come to
• 1:46:53
  different conclusions over time than what I had held previously.
• 1:46:57
  So Don't think being challenged by someone as experienced as
• 1:47:02
  Kent hovind. I think it would be an honor,
• 1:47:05
  and I think it would be really interesting.
• 1:47:08
  It doesn't sound intimidating and, you know, if he gets the
• 1:47:12
  best of me or he has, you know, questions that I can't answer,
• 1:47:17
  he has answers for questions, I thought were unanswerable.
• 1:47:20
  Then then what comes out of that is I learned something?
• 1:47:25
  So, yeah. What I need from you, right?
• 1:47:28
  Right now is because I'm emailing him right now.
• 1:47:31
  I decided to email and give him more of a description about you
• 1:47:35
  what would be a day and time that you think that you would be
• 1:47:38
  interested in doing it? Okay, let me put my calendar
• 1:47:44
  really quick. On my computer.
• 1:47:54
  You know, sometime next week during the, I would say maybe
• 1:48:03
  during the day like if the, I mean, maybe he would schedule
• 1:48:07
  for the evening, I don't know what he's got going on.
• 1:48:12
  Well, there's some days in the evening, he does his own
• 1:48:15
  Ministry videos and all that, and then he does sometimes
• 1:48:19
  debate over there. So if you want to do something
• 1:48:21
  during the day, we just got, give them an idea.
• 1:48:24
  On time when you want to do it, this tell me what you think is
• 1:48:28
  convenient than he'll tell me what's convenient for him and
• 1:48:31
  then I'll talk to you both and get it figured out just like I
• 1:48:35
  did with Adam. What about Wednesday next week?
• 1:48:40
  I mean, I'm any anytime from noon to in the evening
• 1:48:56
  You know, when he's going to be talking to Adam lore.
• 1:49:01
  We already talked to Adam Laura. That's actually an older debate
• 1:49:05
  that it happened. Okay.
• 1:49:07
  Yeah, that's like a premier. I've got tons and tons of
• 1:49:12
  debates that he's had with people that I got him set up
• 1:49:15
  with and all that and you always had a good time.
• 1:49:18
  He loves hanging out with me. Okay.
• 1:49:20
  So here's what I'm writing film. Are you ready?
• 1:49:23
  Sure. Go ahead.
• 1:49:24
  This is I have a Catholic who believes in evolution, he would
• 1:49:27
  like to have an open discussion like you've done in the past.
• 1:49:30
  During my show he would be up for noon time.
• 1:49:33
  Next week, tell me what's good for you so I'm going to send
• 1:49:37
  them that get let him chew on that for a little bit.
• 1:49:41
  Figure it out. He'll most likely, you know, say
• 1:49:45
  I got to look at my schedule. All this probably within a few
• 1:49:48
  days. I'll be able to give you an
• 1:49:49
  ultimate answer on. It daytime may actually be
• 1:49:53
  pretty good for him because like I said if he's not doing debates
• 1:49:57
  in Sanford truth and he's doing a video usually run.
• 1:50:00
  Six or seven pm on his own channel.
• 1:50:03
  And but he's told me, look Brett if you find anybody because he
• 1:50:08
  standing for truth, unfortunately runs into a lot of
• 1:50:11
  problems. Standing for truth was telling
• 1:50:13
  me while back his name's Donny. He said, you know, every time we
• 1:50:16
  try to get atheist to go, we end up with the same kind of atheist
• 1:50:20
  because a lot of them puts out, they'll talk shed in the
• 1:50:23
  comments and the fucking spam the hell out of it with a bunch
• 1:50:27
  of hatred and how stupid everybody else.
• 1:50:30
  But then When they're called out, you know, Kent's is odd
• 1:50:33
  debate, any of you. Hell, you can bring 3 or 5.
• 1:50:36
  You fucking dumb dumbs and I'll still beat your ass.
• 1:50:38
  So that's his attitude about it and they run, they run from him.
• 1:50:46
  I don't have any trouble believing that it's well, you
• 1:50:52
  better get somebody. If anybody out there has never
• 1:50:54
  watched it. And you have any doubts and what
• 1:50:56
  the sexy Brent team is saying, you can go over, see the videos
• 1:51:00
  and actually see the chat going on, the chats are saved, so you
• 1:51:04
  can watch it scroll. As the video goes, like, it was
• 1:51:08
  just recorded or put in a live stream and it's just massive,
• 1:51:12
  massive insults personal attacks.
• 1:51:15
  It's people bringing up like past shit and everything or
• 1:51:19
  they're just simply say, no, you don't understand Evolution, it's
• 1:51:22
  always the the route that go. It's it's really a you know I
• 1:51:29
  just watched that video. You did the other day the hour
• 1:51:34
  long video, where you basically go and refute maybe refutes not
• 1:51:41
  the right word, but you would dress everything about why
• 1:51:44
  people still come after you, why?
• 1:51:47
  You have this reputation. I mean, it's an hour long video,
• 1:51:49
  everything is there, and it needs more views.
• 1:51:53
  It's sitting and looking right now, it's sitting at 87.
• 1:51:55
  I mean, Hopefully over time, people will find it and actually
• 1:51:59
  watch it because I can't imagine what it's like to be you.
• 1:52:03
  And to just have to hear the same nonsense repeated over and
• 1:52:07
  over again. Right.
• 1:52:12
  Right. I've actually did some videos
• 1:52:15
  like that long long ago and everything and what I've
• 1:52:18
  discovered is I put it out there but I know there's only like a
• 1:52:22
  handful of rational logical people who are actually willing
• 1:52:26
  to actually listen I don't think you said it's going to do
• 1:52:29
  anything for me. I don't think that these people
• 1:52:32
  cared. I don't think that when the shit
• 1:52:34
  was going on in the past so that mattered anybody.
• 1:52:38
  So I don't think it's no matter how many views it gets, It's
• 1:52:42
  going to be just bullshit for people just going to roll right
• 1:52:46
  over them. Some of them, they won't even go
• 1:52:48
  through 10 minutes of it. So I got no hopes for that.
• 1:52:50
  I got no faith in the ages community.
• 1:52:54
  People just want to talk shit from behind a keyboard.
• 1:52:56
  Nobody would say this stuff to your face.
• 1:52:58
  I mean it's just cowardice cowardice and insecurity, people
• 1:53:03
  want to put other people down to make themselves feel better,
• 1:53:06
  it's embarrassing. And yeah, a lot of people, a lot
• 1:53:09
  of these people, they argue and they fight because they're bored
• 1:53:12
  and they do the kind of shit they do because they're not
• 1:53:15
  having any enjoyment or fun in their life and this is how they
• 1:53:18
  get it. Some people were raised shitty
• 1:53:22
  and they just feel like the only attention Can get us that they
• 1:53:24
  do. It - I tried to teach these
• 1:53:27
  people over and over, just say, hello, how are you doing?
• 1:53:30
  And then we can get a discussion going.
• 1:53:32
  I'm pretty damn good at throwing out topics and ideas for people
• 1:53:36
  to talk about and I'm pretty damn various in my conversation
• 1:53:39
  as well. But some of these people, they
• 1:53:42
  got antisocial disorders, Yeah, clearly clearly.
• 1:53:50
  I know you said that my videos extensive and you're right, it
• 1:53:53
  is. But if you have any questions or
• 1:53:56
  you have anything that you want to ask or whatever you're more
• 1:53:59
  than welcome to. Well, you know, you know I don't
• 1:54:04
  necessarily not necessarily on that topic and I know we covered
• 1:54:09
  this last time but I guess a comment I'm interested in your
• 1:54:16
  like personal history with Catholicism.
• 1:54:20
  However. However you know peripheral it
• 1:54:23
  might be I mean have you have you ever had Catholic family
• 1:54:26
  members that have brought you to mass or I mean I know you're
• 1:54:31
  from St. Louis, which is a historically
• 1:54:33
  Catholic City. So I was curious about that.
• 1:54:37
  Why have I've got a lot of religious family members out
• 1:54:41
  there had one that was a Catholic in the Catholic was
• 1:54:45
  treated like a dickhead by the Baptist and Pentecostal it was
• 1:54:48
  that whole oh you go to the wrong Church, you read the wrong
• 1:54:52
  Bible. You do all that shit and I
• 1:54:54
  thought that was so fucking Petty.
• 1:54:56
  It was so annoying. I just like the idea of family
• 1:54:59
  sitting down and having a fucking turkey and not you want
• 1:55:02
  to kill each other. Just over a label or an idea.
• 1:55:06
  I never really notice much difference between what my uncle
• 1:55:10
  was saying from my other family members.
• 1:55:12
  Anyway, God is God, and he doesn't really give a rat's ass
• 1:55:16
  how big the building is. It's it is what it is.
• 1:55:19
  So that's my views. Aren't I do notice on YouTube?
• 1:55:24
  I see a lot of that petty shit going on where somebody's are
• 1:55:26
  Catholic to get fucked with it. There are Mormon or Jehovah
• 1:55:29
  Witnesses like give it a fucking break this enough enough?
• 1:55:34
  Why I Really. I'm welcoming anybody?
• 1:55:38
  Hell, I'll even have a Satanist in here.
• 1:55:39
  I don't give a shit. Okay, he had gear.
• 1:55:48
  So do you, you have been the mass before.
• 1:55:51
  I mean, do you? I guess I guess my question is
• 1:55:57
  and it's part of what led me to Catholicism instead of back to
• 1:56:03
  the Southern Baptist Church that I grew up in it.
• 1:56:08
  What I guess what I realized was that the early church had an
• 1:56:15
  maybe would disagree with this and we can get into this but the
• 1:56:18
  early church had structure, you know, it had One at the top who
• 1:56:26
  was guiding the church namely, you know, at the beginning Paul
• 1:56:32
  and Peter and then after their deaths, it kind of continued and
• 1:56:40
  Christianity throughout its history up until the Protestant
• 1:56:45
  Reformation when Martin Luther and the people before him who
• 1:56:49
  started their own things and know the little enclaves in
• 1:56:52
  Germany and whatnot. It wasn't until these guys came
• 1:56:55
  along and eschewed the structure that Christianity became so
• 1:57:04
  individualized as we see it amongst Protestants today.
• 1:57:07
  And I was just wondering, I mean what you thought about that?
• 1:57:11
  If you, if you think that there needs to be a leadership
• 1:57:14
  structure in the church, or if you think that it is down to the
• 1:57:18
  individual to look at their own Bible and do their own study.
• 1:57:26
  Well, you probably have a better conversation on that having to
• 1:57:29
  do a Stephen or some other Christian Brethren.
• 1:57:32
  I consider myself like a non-denominational and usually
• 1:57:36
  prefer using the word theists. When I describe myself, the only
• 1:57:41
  interaction I've had with the Catholic church, I know the
• 1:57:43
  history, but as far as being interacting with a Catholic
• 1:57:47
  Church, most of my interactions happen, whenever I was a former
• 1:57:51
  atheist, whenever I would go to their churches to debate though.
• 1:57:54
  More have conversations with them about the existence of God
• 1:57:58
  or The credibility of it and all that didn't do a whole lot of as
• 1:58:03
  you probably know Baptists and Pentecostals are more about
• 1:58:06
  going out and having family picnics in the Catholics,
• 1:58:10
  Catholic seem to be. So that's really a limited
• 1:58:13
  interaction. Be better to speak to someone
• 1:58:16
  who actually is a Baptist or Pentecostal, because I'm kind of
• 1:58:19
  the laid-back, not a Universalist, but I'm I like to
• 1:58:23
  see myself more. As a theist, who's open-minded.
• 1:58:28
  Huh. Okay, so you said okay.
• 1:58:30
  So that's interesting. So you say you're not a
• 1:58:32
  Universalist No, I want Universalist.
• 1:58:37
  Usually, believe. Everything's going to be fine.
• 1:58:40
  Everybody's going to be thinking all that.
• 1:58:42
  I don't believe that. I do believe there's going to be
• 1:58:44
  some people are going to get cake but not in the same way.
• 1:58:47
  Other Christians do like some Christians believe in eternal
• 1:58:50
  torment. I believe in an eye Elation, as
• 1:58:53
  mm. So that's where my view and my
• 1:58:56
  interaction with the Catholic church is simply been whenever I
• 1:58:58
  was going against them are in the existence of God and all
• 1:59:02
  that but to be but the I never disliked any of them, some of
• 1:59:07
  them were very intelligent and they really really seem like
• 1:59:11
  they were, I'll give them this they seemed more educated than
• 1:59:15
  some of the water down and asked her chairs on the other side
• 1:59:18
  were saying okay Okay, that's fair.
• 1:59:23
  I think I can see that. So what that's it.
• 1:59:27
  The annihilation ISM thing is interesting because I've not met
• 1:59:32
  a lot of people. I think it's a valid belief and
• 1:59:36
  you know my honest answer and then this might be a little bit
• 1:59:40
  heretical her Catholic this a but my honest answer is I don't
• 1:59:43
  think we know I don't think there is a way to know but what
• 1:59:50
  what is it that got you? You in on the 99 Elation list
• 1:59:54
  belief. Well obviously started with the
• 1:59:58
  Old Testament, where it talked about a whole Souls can be
• 2:00:02
  destroyed. And the Book of Revelation, it
• 2:00:04
  talks about the second death. The logic is that the first step
• 2:00:08
  is physical, where your body? Basically, decomposes decays and
• 2:00:12
  is destroyed Jesus Christ. He says, many times he uses the
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  word Parish well for some Oddball reason.
• 2:00:19
  Some Christians don't look up these words and Dictionary or in
• 2:00:23
  the Biblical dictionary but a means to be ruined and destroyed
• 2:00:28
  Beyond identification. If I say to you, take a baseball
• 2:00:33
  bat and bust your computer up and never fix it, then it's
• 2:00:38
  eternally ruined. It's eternally destroyed
• 2:00:41
  Concepts, like eternity for the dead person is there.
• 2:00:46
  But it's not saying there's nowhere in the Bible, where it
• 2:00:49
  actually says, you're going to be tortured and tortured.
• 2:00:52
  Think about it. You're not going to have a
• 2:00:54
  nervous system. You don't have pain receptors.
• 2:00:57
  Like what I like to argue with Evolution, this darn.
• 2:01:00
  You're not going to feel anything.
• 2:01:01
  The only actual torment is your Consciousness, accepting its
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  fate, and that is miserable and itself knowing that there's no
• 2:01:10
  Escape. But I do believe the soul is
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  basically annihilated, I don't know how long it takes for it to
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  happen. I don't know how fucking painful
• 2:01:19
  it's going to be but I do not believe that.
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  That an omnipresent God wants to spend all eternity, viewing, his
• 2:01:26
  Creations being fucking roasted. I know that's a popular idea
• 2:01:31
  with Dante's Inferno and some Christians and it really works
• 2:01:35
  as a good fear tactic, but I see a lot of passages.
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  Let me give you one more example for you.
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  Jesus, Jesus said, don't just fear the one who can destroy the
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  body, but he who can destroy the body and the soul.
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  So, why is Jesus even mentioning that the soul can actually be
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  destroyed? That God, has such power that he
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  can annihilate a soul? I'm looking for this right now.
• 2:02:03
  Looks like this is Matthew 10:28.
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  Okay, be not afraid. Huh.
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  Okay, interesting. So, do you Do You Believe In
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  Hell or do you think the hell is this annihilation?
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  I would describe hello like this water.
• 2:02:33
  Are you ready? You gotta listen to very closely
• 2:02:36
  on this imagine that you're walking out into a forest and
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  it's getting darker, it's getting darker and darker and
• 2:02:45
  then you find like a little vault door, some kind of hatch
• 2:02:49
  sitting on the ground, you're all alone, you're by yourself
• 2:02:53
  and you decide that you want to open up the hatch and go
• 2:02:55
  exploring. Now imagine that you go down
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  there and it's dark. You don't.
• 2:02:59
  A flashlight, you don't have anything with you and as you get
• 2:03:03
  all the way down to the bottom, you fucked up.
• 2:03:06
  The hats drops are new. Okay, you're stuck and you know
• 2:03:10
  that nobody can hear you, you'll scream, you'll, you'll you'll
• 2:03:13
  cry, but you're not going to get out.
• 2:03:16
  I do believe that at some point in time, that you simply will
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  not be able to handle that. On an emotional mental or
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  spiritual level anymore. You're basically trapped in your
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  own mind. And I believe, at some point in
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  time you will Literally, how do I put it?
• 2:03:32
  You'll almost eat yourself out of existence.
• 2:03:34
  You'll destroy your very identity.
• 2:03:37
  And then that way since you have no Identity or simply gone,
• 2:03:43
  okay, and so this is when you, when you talk about this is that
• 2:03:47
  the annihilating The annihilation is the actual
• 2:03:52
  destruction of the Soul, you'll see in the Book of Revelations,
• 2:03:56
  a lot of the Christians who like their their tortures hell where
• 2:03:59
  Satan, rapes you over and over. They usually go with versus but
• 2:04:02
  look, everybody gets thrown in the Lake of Fire.
• 2:04:05
  If you look real clearly, when you're reading it, it says that
• 2:04:08
  the devil and the Antichrist and the evil minions of followed
• 2:04:13
  Satan will be dropped into it. It doesn't mention that humans
• 2:04:17
  are actually going to be Put into this like infernal cage
• 2:04:22
  where they'll be punished for all eternity humans don't get to
• 2:04:26
  go into that existence. The Bible actually talks about
• 2:04:29
  how the dead those who Christ, whenever he returns, he's going
• 2:04:34
  to pick up the ones that are good.
• 2:04:35
  In the ones that are dead, their basic.
• 2:04:37
  Well, you also you're a Catholic.
• 2:04:40
  So you believe in the book of the apocryphal you believe that
• 2:04:43
  Jesus actually walked through an actual place of hell though.
• 2:04:46
  Don't you? He will.
• 2:04:50
  The the Apocrypha is actually all in the Old Testament and
• 2:04:59
  it's well, the apocryphal books to Protestant.
• 2:05:02
  So we would call it the deuterocanonical books actually
• 2:05:05
  have my Catholic Bible, other credit kind of writing about
• 2:05:09
  their forget what it's called. But we're people believe that
• 2:05:12
  Jesus actually went down into hell and actually went around
• 2:05:16
  and then that there was like Like some kind of earthquakes
• 2:05:19
  and they like the souls of old went up and I think that the
• 2:05:23
  problem is is that in Judaism they taught that whenever you
• 2:05:29
  whenever you die you kind of like remain dead and they also
• 2:05:32
  got another version called Guyana or something Guyana or
• 2:05:35
  something like yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:05:38
  The trash pit or whatever did where they used to throw people
• 2:05:41
  and I think that's where a lot of this weird shit started to
• 2:05:43
  come up again, is actually a real loser.
• 2:05:48
  Yeah, I agree. Gehenna is a.
• 2:05:50
  Let me, let me give you one more logical.
• 2:05:53
  I got amazing. Some throw water.
• 2:05:55
  Let me give you one more logical explanation for you and I swear,
• 2:05:59
  after I tell you this, you're going to be scratching your head
• 2:06:02
  and thinking to yourself. What the hell?
• 2:06:03
  Why didn't I ever think of that? But here it goes water, get rid
• 2:06:07
  of that word. Okay?
• 2:06:08
  So God says that, whenever he gets rid of these people, they
• 2:06:13
  will be out of his presence you've heard of the outer
• 2:06:15
  Darkness. Right.
• 2:06:18
  Yes, have you ever asked yourself, how does an
• 2:06:21
  omnipresent God make it to where something exists outside of his
• 2:06:28
  presence where he's no longer aware of it anymore?
• 2:06:31
  The only way that is possible is if he makes those people
• 2:06:34
  non-existent. That's the only way they can no
• 2:06:37
  longer be in the presence of an omnipresent God.
• 2:06:44
  Huh. Okay, so that's actually really
• 2:06:49
  interesting because we as Catholics, you know, the the
• 2:06:56
  fire and brimstone doesn't doesn't actually come from the
• 2:07:00
  Bible. It comes from.
• 2:07:04
  What is it Paradise Lost and it also comes from Dante's Inferno
• 2:07:11
  which were these are extra biblical books that are.
• 2:07:15
  I mean, they're not famous books to do and they're and they're
• 2:07:17
  famous for a Isn't that good? Are you still there water or
• 2:07:26
  Sons? Like you froze straight?
• 2:07:35
  Sounds like Waters audio went kind of goofy.
• 2:07:40
  I'm back at. Can you hear me now?
• 2:07:43
  Yeah okay. So what Calvin's actually
• 2:07:48
  believe we believe that is essentially separation from God.
• 2:07:58
  So you know that you had the opportunity to become one with
• 2:08:04
  God and you failed in that opportunity.
• 2:08:10
  But what you're saying and The part about the omnipresence is,
• 2:08:16
  it's actually a really good point.
• 2:08:17
  That is kind of making me scratch my chin because I guess
• 2:08:24
  in a way, not existing anymore, being annihilated is being
• 2:08:31
  separated from God. And so, it almost fits with what
• 2:08:39
  I already believe. And now I'm kind of, I don't
• 2:08:42
  know. My head is doing somersaults,
• 2:08:45
  I'm trying to think through this.
• 2:08:49
  Well, you don't have to like rush it or anything like that.
• 2:08:53
  Just sit back and think about it.
• 2:08:55
  Drink you some coffee or have a pemsy and just just chill and
• 2:08:59
  think about it. I know it's rough.
• 2:09:02
  Don't hear a lot of that kind of stuff but that's pretty much the
• 2:09:05
  idea. I came to on it and remember if
• 2:09:09
  you look up any of the words that are used by Jesus whenever
• 2:09:13
  he mentions any of the stuff he uses words like destruction and
• 2:09:17
  perish perish. Means ruined and destroyed
• 2:09:20
  Beyond identification. If you destroy something of it's
• 2:09:26
  going to remain eternally destroyed unless you repair it
• 2:09:29
  and the only one who can repair a soul or an existence is God,
• 2:09:34
  you know I think you're right. I'm actually got my Bible out
• 2:09:41
  right now my I have a bunch of bottles.
• 2:09:44
  I collect them actually but this is a Catholic Bible.
• 2:09:47
  I'm going to Second Maccabees Bees which is part of the
• 2:09:53
  deutero cannon. So Protestants don't have this
• 2:09:55
  book and their Bible but we do and you do realize you do
• 2:10:01
  realize as a Catholic if you do inherit or absorb some other
• 2:10:06
  philosophies that you've heard. It's not like they are going to
• 2:10:10
  bend you over attorney and beat your ass with a wooden paddle
• 2:10:13
  for having a philosophical view on hell.
• 2:10:18
  No, I I do realize that and that is a fair point.
• 2:10:23
  That people need to understand, you know.
• 2:10:25
  Catholics do get stereotyped as being very wooden and strict.
• 2:10:31
  And I'm sure people who have been to Catholic school, might
• 2:10:35
  get that interpretation, but I find that a lot of actual
• 2:10:42
  Catholics that you meet, you know, On Any Given Sunday or
• 2:10:45
  jussara are not like that. Actually, actually pretty
• 2:10:49
  relaxed and laid-back. And we believe it would in every
• 2:10:57
  priest that I've spoken to and has this question too.
• 2:11:00
  And every well, I shouldn't say every Catholic in the best is
• 2:11:03
  question too. But I would say every Catholic
• 2:11:05
  who is well read and understands the faith.
• 2:11:11
  I mean, if you ask them, you know, Will someone who's not
• 2:11:15
  Catholic? Make it into heaven.
• 2:11:17
  They always say that's up to God, you know, God won't keep
• 2:11:23
  Believers out of heaven and I think a lot of people might be
• 2:11:28
  surprised to hear that. So I'm looking for this verse.
• 2:11:33
  Give me a second. Okay, so I found your look on
• 2:11:38
  the screen. I'm gonna I'll post a few verses
• 2:11:41
  for you that you can look at and these will make you scratch your
• 2:11:44
  head. Lou, you can copy them to, I
• 2:11:47
  wanted to make sure I post them for you.
• 2:11:49
  For some reason, some religious people don't like to post their
• 2:11:52
  stuff and make it easier for people to look it up.
• 2:11:55
  But here's the verses and what these verses will tell you is
• 2:11:59
  they say that and it also says in the New Testament it teaches
• 2:12:04
  that the wicked will just lie suffer for their sins but the
• 2:12:08
  end result will be their destruction and that's also
• 2:12:12
  found in Luke 16. 1931, Romans 28 and second Thessalonians.
• 2:12:17
  1:6. I will also post those for you
• 2:12:20
  as well, and you will see that. The word destruction is used in
• 2:12:24
  this. That's a lot different than
• 2:12:27
  Eternal torture and torment, are getting spanked by Satan for all
• 2:12:31
  eternity, right? Now it is.
• 2:12:35
  I'm a flipping through my Bible right now.
• 2:12:38
  To look at this verse 1, second Kenny's.
• 2:12:41
  Okay, so the New American Bible says because they have abandoned
• 2:12:44
  me and have burned incense to other gods provoking Me by all
• 2:12:48
  the works of their hands. My rage is Ablaze against this
• 2:12:52
  place and it cannot be extinguished.
• 2:12:56
  Right. Now, look in 2nd Thessalonians
• 2:13:01
  1:6. You got to compare these
• 2:13:03
  passages together. You know how it is with the
• 2:13:05
  Bible. It's basically telling you, even
• 2:13:08
  from book to book, it gives you an idea of what's Happening
• 2:13:11
  here. I'll leave it in Thessalonians.
• 2:13:17
  One through 1:6, okay. Let's take a look like some
• 2:13:25
  bread. When you when you're studying
• 2:13:26
  the Bible, do you like to use a computer?
• 2:13:28
  Do you like the whole a physical Bible in your hand?
• 2:13:31
  Well, I used to love holding a book in my hand, but remember
• 2:13:35
  water. I was telling you I got bad
• 2:13:37
  eyesight now on a computer. I couldn't count them up.
• 2:13:40
  Are inverses and be able to search it up real quick
• 2:13:43
  nowadays, right? Really I prefer books how I'm a
• 2:13:47
  writer myself but should I can't even look at my own books
• 2:13:51
  without having Some kind of ability to look up on them.
• 2:13:54
  I have to read my own shit PDF now probably if it gets worse
• 2:13:58
  and wanting to be able to ride anymore.
• 2:14:00
  That sucks balls, right? That does suck balls.
• 2:14:03
  I'm actually a writer to I've always liked writing.
• 2:14:07
  It's a good way to get your to sort yourself out.
• 2:14:12
  Okay, so here we go. Second Thessalonians.
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  Oh go ahead. Well, I was going to give you
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  access to this 2220 Old Testament.
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  He who sacrifices to any God other than to the Lord alone
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  shall be utterly, utterly destroyed as God lying in this.
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  Whenever he says he's going to destroy someone that's that.
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  And you can also find in Deuteronomy where it says the
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  soul actually die. Let me show you some work.
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  Whenever he says that he's going to utterly, destroy, Sodom and
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  Gomorrah was there. Some kind of ghost version of it
• 2:14:49
  hanging around afterwards. Right.
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  Exactly. So this that's actually a good
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  point because I'm thinking now about this verse in Deuteronomy
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  and it is something and, you know, non-believers have put
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  this to me before and it's never been the biggest challenge.
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  But it is something I thought about because it does seem like
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  in the Old Testament. There is a There is a an
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  ultimate destruction. Sort of vibe, you know, God
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  sends the armies to war and he completely decimates these
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  Villages and it would make sense that he's not, you know, doing
• 2:15:32
  these people to hell, but instead just wiping their souls
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  out of existence, now, keep in mind and I've actually had some
• 2:15:40
  Christians, get sad army about this for like, but you know why
• 2:15:44
  would an atheist care if he's going to be just simply
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  annihilated and have this Consciousness removed?
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  Here's the catch. I don't know how long it takes
• 2:15:53
  for the soul to be destroyed. I don't know how long that's
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  going to be, and I definitely don't know what it feels like to
• 2:15:59
  have my Consciousness in my soul ripped out of me, so that could
• 2:16:03
  be a damn painful experience. So for the Who are sadist out
• 2:16:09
  there who like some good torture, there's going to be
• 2:16:11
  pain there, be suffering that says that, but that person is
• 2:16:15
  not going to burn for all eternity.
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  This is not the way it is. And also, if you end up finding
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  yourself, I'm not saying that this is a good reason or
• 2:16:25
  whatever. But atheist actually appreciate
• 2:16:29
  the concept. And they see God is more
• 2:16:31
  merciful and compassionate whenever you give them these
• 2:16:34
  passages that show, that he's not a god.
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  Who's going to talk? Torment your ass in the furnace
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  for all eternity. That you actually do get
• 2:16:42
  destroyed that the pain doesn't last forever.
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  Flipping back to the verse. Yeah, I personally, I like to
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  have a physical book in hand. Okay.
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  So, do you get do you get pushback from from other
• 2:17:07
  Christians when it when it comes to this Annihilation disbelief?
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  Yeah, there's been a few questions that have one against
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  me. What?
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  Which is named. Matt not Matt fell, but Matt
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  slick. He actually tried to give me a
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  run for my money and I was able to give him over 50 verses and
• 2:17:28
  he gave me one that sounded really mysterious and I admitted
• 2:17:32
  it. It sounded pretty damn rough but
• 2:17:34
  I still had given over 50 verses to make.
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  My point is where he just had like one or two.
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  And only one of them was really nasty sounding but the issue is
• 2:17:45
  to is that You know just as well as I that there are many
• 2:17:50
  different translations of the Bible and for whatever reason
• 2:17:54
  than these New Living Translation is a lot of
• 2:17:56
  Christians like to go for the kind of reward shit and it can
• 2:17:59
  get confusing that way. Even though it's trying to give
• 2:18:02
  the same message, just changing one word around, can change the
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  whole point of what it's trying to say.
• 2:18:15
  Yes, it can. So okay, so here we go.
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  So I hate I hate to pick on the, you know, this is honestly kind
• 2:18:22
  of a related topic. So this is from Maccabees is the
• 2:18:30
  second Maccabees. And again, this is a Catholic
• 2:18:36
  book and I'm assuming Orthodox Christians have this book in
• 2:18:39
  their Bible as well. But this is a First that I
• 2:18:44
  personally feel in a lot of other Christians and Scholars.
• 2:18:49
  Feel this points to there, being a Purgatory, which like I said,
• 2:18:55
  is related to what we're talking about.
• 2:18:56
  So it says, this is a second, Maccabees chapter 12, verses 41
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  through 46. So it says, so they all bless
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  the ways of the Lord, the righteous judge who reveals the
• 2:19:10
  things that are hidden and they turn to I'm praying that the sin
• 2:19:14
  that had been committed might be wholly, blotted out the noble,
• 2:19:18
  Judas exhorted, the people to keep themselves free from sin
• 2:19:22
  for they had seen with their own eyes.
• 2:19:24
  What had happened? As a result of the sin of those
• 2:19:27
  who had fallen? He also took up a collection Man
• 2:19:30
  by man to the amount of 2,000, drachmas of silver and sent it
• 2:19:34
  to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering.
• 2:19:37
  And that's a key part, right? There is the sin offering in
• 2:19:40
  doing this. He acted very well in Honorably
• 2:19:44
  taking account of the Resurrection for, if he were not
• 2:19:48
  expecting that, those who had fallen when rise again, it would
• 2:19:51
  have been Superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead but
• 2:19:56
  it was he who is looking to The Splendid reward.
• 2:19:59
  That is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was
• 2:20:03
  a holy and Pious thought. So the the point there is that
• 2:20:09
  the dead are not yet in the afterlife yet and they have to
• 2:20:15
  be prayed for and Catholics believe that that and this is
• 2:20:19
  not the only verse but we believe that points to a middle
• 2:20:24
  point between the Earth and Heaven.
• 2:20:28
  Because you while you're in purgatory, we do pray for the
• 2:20:32
  lost souls as their souls are being cleansed of sin and as
• 2:20:37
  they prepare to their heaven. And that's why I really don't
• 2:20:45
  really have much wish you wouldn't.
• 2:20:47
  I myself water. I don't have much issue with the
• 2:20:50
  concept of purgatory. It's repeatedly said that when
• 2:20:54
  people are dead, Jesus, mentions that as being like a like a
• 2:20:58
  sleep or whatever. I would suspect that there's got
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  to be some kind of that. God's not just going to let our
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  souls to sit, you know, in a box or something like that,
• 2:21:08
  especially those who are cremated or they had the
• 2:21:11
  unfortunate experience. Falling out of a plane without a
• 2:21:14
  parachute, turn off in the ocean.
• 2:21:17
  So I don't have a problem with believing that there's some kind
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  of container that God has for those Souls.
• 2:21:24
  So you won't get really whole lot of argument out of me over
• 2:21:27
  that. Okay.
• 2:21:31
  Okay, that's I think that's good.
• 2:21:34
  I think that's, you know, Brett, one day, you may become Catholic
• 2:21:40
  Do you know how many terms of Muslims told me?
• 2:21:42
  They think I'm going to turn Muslim and every denomination.
• 2:21:46
  So me, you're gonna do this. You're going to do that.
• 2:21:48
  I try. Unfortunately, I think that I've
• 2:21:51
  got so many different forms of philosophies, some of it, it
• 2:21:55
  just has too intense for some religious.
• 2:21:57
  Folks, people like like a one straight routine.
• 2:22:01
  They don't like to go off into these little, these little fun
• 2:22:04
  thinking spots that we're doing right now.
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  Well, I mean, you know, I there's one thing I can say, is,
• 2:22:13
  you know, I am a work in progress, and there are
• 2:22:16
  definitely a lot of things that I find.
• 2:22:20
  Maybe it's because of, you know, me growing up Protestant, or
• 2:22:25
  maybe it's because of me being, you know, an atheist when I was
• 2:22:28
  in Middle School, and at the beginning of high school, high
• 2:22:32
  school, but it, I'm a work in progress, and I've always found
• 2:22:38
  that I'm opening myself up to ideas and being willing to talk
• 2:22:42
  about things that I'm not sure about has in the end, it's
• 2:22:46
  always strengthened my faith. Fair enough, man.
• 2:22:52
  Yeah, just keep open-minded and keep going towards the direction
• 2:22:55
  of God. You're good to go.
• 2:22:57
  Doesn't matter to label to me, it's funny.
• 2:23:01
  Because as much as I do Define Myself by my faith in Union,
• 2:23:09
  with the Catholic church, it's when I meet other Christians,
• 2:23:13
  that have a similar sentiment, I find myself almost agreeing with
• 2:23:17
  them. The most just on Esophageal
• 2:23:21
  level and on a theological level, I do believe that Jesus
• 2:23:28
  gave Peter the keys to the church and that Peter was the
• 2:23:32
  first pope. I mean, I do believe that he was
• 2:23:34
  the rock upon, which I will build the body of Christ on
• 2:23:39
  Earth, but it just seems to me like the world is so large and
• 2:23:45
  there's so many so much. There's so many people in there
• 2:23:49
  so much Room for different ideas and different beliefs.
• 2:23:53
  That, of course, the church would end up like this
• 2:23:56
  splintered as it is. I mean, I don't think we can
• 2:23:59
  really hope for any better, it makes sense, and I don't think
• 2:24:03
  any Christian not being Catholic removes them from God.
• 2:24:10
  I think everyone has access to God and has access to Heaven, as
• 2:24:14
  long as they accept Jesus as their Savior and accept the
• 2:24:17
  trinity. Yeah.
• 2:24:20
  It's I don't think it's a, it's anything that keeps people from
• 2:24:25
  God at all, which a lot of Catholics might try to argue
• 2:24:30
  with me on, but like I said, I'm a work in progress.
• 2:24:37
  Harry. We got somebody out here and
• 2:24:39
  says there in Annihilation is to well, Lou, if you want to come
• 2:24:43
  in and got a mic, be happy to hear what your views and your
• 2:24:46
  ideas are on. It looks like old something
• 2:24:50
  interesting. Why does gangster Ghosts come to
• 2:24:53
  the text chapter so you can type, I got to go, I'll get him
• 2:24:57
  whatsoever. So I had their water, you know
• 2:25:01
  this, this salut guy, he pointed out something interesting in the
• 2:25:06
  chat which I think is a fair point and it does it is going to
• 2:25:09
  depend on the translation that you use.
• 2:25:11
  But he's using John 3:16. Which he says, is the most
• 2:25:15
  famous verse in the Bible and I have to agree with him.
• 2:25:18
  Thank you evangelicals for doing that.
• 2:25:21
  But it's, um, it's a says, we all know Johnson 316, obviously,
• 2:25:27
  for God. So loved the world, he gave his
• 2:25:29
  only begotten son, And whoever believes in him shall not
• 2:25:32
  perish, which Gojira has highlighted but have eternal
• 2:25:36
  life in his point is that the people perishing are being
• 2:25:42
  snapped out of existence. And I think it's it's an
• 2:25:46
  interesting point. I hadn't considered that because
• 2:25:49
  I just again I don't meet very many Annihilation a list but I
• 2:25:54
  hadn't. I mean it is it's a verse that
• 2:25:57
  you hear so often I never it's funny.
• 2:26:00
  You hear John 3:16 so much that you I never have really sat down
• 2:26:05
  and poked out it's like a song that you hear all the time and
• 2:26:09
  so you're never able to analyze what's going on in the song
• 2:26:12
  because you think you already just know it so well.
• 2:26:16
  But that's a really interesting point.
• 2:26:19
  I had not considered that and it does it in that translation.
• 2:26:22
  It does say Parish I'm going to see what it says in The New
• 2:26:24
  American Bible which is the Catholic Bible.
• 2:26:27
  The Yeah, it says Parrish. Yeah.
• 2:26:40
  And I would I just looked up on the net to see if
• 2:26:44
  annihilationism wasn't palpable with Catholicism.
• 2:26:48
  And apparently there is a branch of Catholicism where there's a
• 2:26:52
  great deal of Catholics out there that go with that and of
• 2:26:56
  course they still go with Purgatory, which is fine, that's
• 2:26:59
  compatible. I mean, if you think about it on
• 2:27:02
  a logical level and I'm pretty sure you have.
• 2:27:05
  I mean even if even if we're not throwing out a bunch of verses
• 2:27:09
  here, this is a God who claims to be the very epitome of love
• 2:27:16
  it, claims that it wants to give you every shot and every
• 2:27:18
  opportunity to be able to receive salvation and be with it
• 2:27:23
  and then doing so your reward is being immortal.
• 2:27:26
  Well, aren't you basically in a strange dark way being rewarded
• 2:27:31
  with immortality if you're going to spend all eternity?
• 2:27:35
  Basically, the concept is Rise, is really what a God would want
• 2:27:40
  to do to be able to be omnipresent and constantly, do
• 2:27:44
  you know what that means? If God is omnipresent and hell
• 2:27:47
  is an actual physical location where things go to to suffer.
• 2:27:53
  This means a God himself is in hell, if he's Present the, I
• 2:27:58
  know some Christians out there they just got tickled under
• 2:28:00
  spine for that, but that's what it would have to mean logically.
• 2:28:04
  If we went with their route, Yeah, I guess it would have to
• 2:28:10
  mean that. I mean yeah, I mean, if he's He?
• 2:28:22
  I have a knee-jerk reaction. I want to say, of course he's
• 2:28:24
  not but, Huh, what? Where did you find this?
• 2:28:35
  Can you post in the chat for this link about these?
• 2:28:40
  Catholics that our Annihilation list?
• 2:28:43
  Sure. It's going to be a big long
• 2:28:44
  length though. Go for it because it's a Google
• 2:28:49
  search to show. What's going on.
• 2:28:51
  I wanted to see if they were compatible.
• 2:28:54
  I'm going to try putting it in private chat.
• 2:28:56
  You know how to look at that, because it'll fill up the whole
• 2:28:59
  sky is going to be Yeah, through or you or you could just go to
• 2:29:05
  Google or you can just go to Google and type in
• 2:29:08
  annihilationism Catholic compatibility.
• 2:29:13
  Okay, let's do that. Have you ever heard of the
• 2:29:24
  philosophy compatibilism? That's another view I have and
• 2:29:27
  that one kind of rock some people.
• 2:29:33
  I've heard of it but I don't know.
• 2:29:35
  I know that I would be able to Define it.
• 2:29:37
  Can you give me a primer? It's very sickly the they the
• 2:29:43
  big answer the solution for free will, as well as predestination
• 2:29:48
  the Bible repeatedly mentions predestination and
• 2:29:51
  predetermined, which a lot of atheists like to argue about,
• 2:29:55
  but of course, Christians believe they have choice and
• 2:29:58
  they had decision that we're not just a bunch of robotic puppets.
• 2:30:01
  Compatible us. Basically say there are some
• 2:30:04
  things in existence that are predetermined that are set in
• 2:30:07
  stone by God, but because of the parameters, in the way things
• 2:30:11
  are set up, he allows for the ability to have Choice, even
• 2:30:15
  though certain things are predetermined.
• 2:30:20
  Okay. Okay yes.
• 2:30:21
  So this is like a free will type thing.
• 2:30:24
  Yeah, it's funny because when I was an atheist I don't know if
• 2:30:28
  you are familiar with this, but Sam Harris has is a big Pusher
• 2:30:34
  for they're not. He is has always argued as far
• 2:30:40
  as I'm aware. I even have his book on it.
• 2:30:43
  That I got at one point that there is no free will.
• 2:30:47
  He is 100% a And it's funny. Well, he would be, he would be
• 2:30:52
  right if there's no God, Sam Harris, would be absolutely
• 2:30:56
  right in his logic that there if there is no God.
• 2:31:00
  And there is no entity that has created a multi-faceted universe
• 2:31:04
  with the ability to do it. Then yeah, atheists are nothing
• 2:31:07
  more than chemicals stimulated by their environment.
• 2:31:10
  There are a product of their environment they can help what
• 2:31:13
  they do their chemicals, tell them what to do and then they
• 2:31:16
  basically are LED like sheep to their Slaughter.
• 2:31:19
  Yeah, he's right at. That's right.
• 2:31:22
  He if his position is correct and he's on the fucking ball or
• 2:31:26
  not. That's fair.
• 2:31:30
  So yeah. Okay.
• 2:31:31
  So he that's what that's that's essentially what I believed.
• 2:31:36
  You know, I because I mean here's the thing and you asked
• 2:31:39
  me the other day, what was it? That led me away from the church
• 2:31:43
  and it was really good. I was spending a ton of time on
• 2:31:46
  YouTube you know watching you know, debates and watching, you
• 2:31:50
  know, a five minute clip of Sam Harris.
• 2:31:53
  You know being condescending to religious people and I was
• 2:31:56
  going. Wow he's so smart and when I
• 2:32:01
  ended up converting and going through the right of Catholic
• 2:32:06
  initiation, I lost that belief and I felt and what you just
• 2:32:14
  said about him being right. I guess you have a point But at
• 2:32:17
  the time, I felt like I had been a moron for even believing it in
• 2:32:24
  the first place, it seems. So obvious that at least we have
• 2:32:28
  some choice and what we do, and I don't know, and maybe maybe
• 2:32:34
  you not. If there is no God, if this is
• 2:32:36
  the only reality that there is water.
• 2:32:39
  Then you were simply if Sam Harris is right, you were born
• 2:32:43
  to live for a moment than existence and not even long
• 2:32:47
  enough to be considered a memory in the universe and you die and
• 2:32:50
  then sooner, or later the universe will one day, whether
• 2:32:53
  you're religious or not. Even an atheist has to believe
• 2:32:56
  this because of all the theories out there, the universe will end
• 2:33:00
  and then mankind will not even be a memory.
• 2:33:02
  It's as if we were everything that we ever accomplished will
• 2:33:06
  be flushed on the fucking toilet and that's the end of it.
• 2:33:09
  It so if Sam Harris were right and there is no God, no prime
• 2:33:13
  mover and yeah that's the end of Humanity game over.
• 2:33:20
  Yeah, do you when you think back on being a non-believer?
• 2:33:26
  Because I know I do this. Do you go?
• 2:33:28
  Do you think how did I even believe this in the first place?
• 2:33:33
  It seems. So obvious that it's not true.
• 2:33:37
  How was I hoodwinks in the first place?
• 2:33:39
  You know? I kick myself in the ass for a
• 2:33:44
  while there and I remember thinking to myself, look God,
• 2:33:48
  why did you allow me to be an atheist for so many years?
• 2:33:51
  Why did you give me the ability or the intellectual capacity
• 2:33:56
  that I have to be able to debate people?
• 2:33:58
  Unfortunately, many people would tell you, I kicked a lot of ass
• 2:34:02
  and stuff against this and all that, and it makes me feel bad
• 2:34:06
  and it gives me regret. And then I get to thinking to
• 2:34:09
  myself. Why, why why?
• 2:34:10
  And the answer So, I came up with those, maybe God allowed me
• 2:34:14
  to be in their Camp. So I'd have a better
• 2:34:16
  understanding of where they're coming from that way.
• 2:34:20
  Whenever I do finally become a Walkley, right?
• 2:34:24
  So, that's that's where I came to.
• 2:34:26
  I still regret all the children that may have been listening to
• 2:34:30
  me, and watching me, that may be confused and misled and fucked
• 2:34:34
  up. That's something I'll never be
• 2:34:36
  able to, like really forgive myself for.
• 2:34:39
  But fortunately, every once in a while, I get One of these people
• 2:34:42
  who said they watched me when they were a kid or a teenager.
• 2:34:46
  And now they come to me and say, I believe in God, and that does
• 2:34:49
  make me feel great. But I do know that this world is
• 2:34:52
  dark and horrible, and I know that it's possible that some of
• 2:34:56
  them may have died in their confusion and that's that's hard
• 2:34:59
  to be able to swallow for me. So you so you have had other
• 2:35:07
  people who have known about you in the past that are now, you
• 2:35:10
  know, they've truly converted. Yeah.
• 2:35:14
  Yeah, there's a lot if you watch some of the shows and you go the
• 2:35:17
  Odyssey and watch some of the older stuff.
• 2:35:20
  I've had people come in, I had this one guy who said, Brad man,
• 2:35:25
  I used to listen to you whenever you started going into theism
• 2:35:28
  and I was pissed. I just wanted to get up there
• 2:35:30
  and yell at you and all that and and just really get Arn to you.
• 2:35:34
  But I kept on thinking and thinking of ways to refute you
• 2:35:38
  and the more I thought about refuting you in the more
• 2:35:40
  research I did, the more I realize that You were onto
• 2:35:43
  something and he ended up telling me that he became a
• 2:35:46
  theist and all that and I go. Well, praise God or not, that's
• 2:35:50
  that's awesome. Wow, that's like a just, it's
• 2:35:59
  like a Poetic Justice, you know? Like I have the same thought
• 2:36:03
  when I think back on being a non-believer and spending so
• 2:36:09
  much time consuming so much content, and so many arguments
• 2:36:14
  and reading. So many books on atheism is
• 2:36:16
  like, why did I spend all this time doing it?
• 2:36:19
  And it's because now when I meet, you know, someone who's
• 2:36:22
  still an atheist. I can talk to them and connect
• 2:36:25
  with them on that level like I know everything that they're
• 2:36:29
  going to talk about. I know exactly what they're
• 2:36:31
  going to say, you know. And now I water the answers
• 2:36:36
  water. Would you like to know, one of
• 2:36:38
  the big things that kicked me in the ass and stuff?
• 2:36:41
  Whenever I was an atheist, Okay, go for it.
• 2:36:45
  One of the things that kicked me in the ass has I tried whenever
• 2:36:49
  I made my videos, I tried to make mention every once in
• 2:36:53
  awhile. I said, anybody that's listening
• 2:36:54
  to me watching me, I lack a belief in deity simply because I
• 2:36:59
  don't feel like there's enough evidence for the concept of God,
• 2:37:02
  but I'm open to it and I'm for it.
• 2:37:05
  There's a very good chance or probability.
• 2:37:07
  I might be wrong atheist. Hated it when I did that.
• 2:37:11
  Whenever I put that preface out there that I could.
• 2:37:13
  Wrong because they want to make it appear as though, they know
• 2:37:17
  what the fuck you're talking about for me.
• 2:37:19
  I intellectually tried to be honest and say, look, I could be
• 2:37:22
  wrong but the thing that really busted my ass water is remember
• 2:37:27
  in my long ass video that I talked about where people called
• 2:37:30
  me and they got a hold of me on Skype.
• 2:37:32
  Did you get that far into the video where you heard that the
• 2:37:37
  one, the one from the other day? The hour long video?
• 2:37:40
  Yeah. Did you get?
• 2:37:42
  Yeah. Okay.
• 2:37:44
  So what ends up happening is there was quite a few times
• 2:37:47
  where I'd be, I'd be sitting there, chilling out, you know,
• 2:37:51
  feed my baby and all that. And I got a call on Skype and
• 2:37:55
  there was this guy. He says, man, we really love
• 2:37:58
  you, dude, this was back when ever.
• 2:38:00
  I was doing the popular atheist bet he said, can I bring you
• 2:38:03
  into a call? There's a bunch of fans of yours
• 2:38:06
  and they like to say hi to you and see how you're doing.
• 2:38:09
  I said sure she pulls me in the call and there's all these All
• 2:38:13
  of a sudden I start hearing all these voices and they're all
• 2:38:16
  high-pitched, they're all kids the children and they go.
• 2:38:21
  I'm an atheist and I watch you all the time.
• 2:38:24
  And I'm like, why are you watching my videos for?
• 2:38:26
  Did you ask your mother and father if it was okay and they
• 2:38:30
  go. Oh, come on man.
• 2:38:32
  Come on, we're cool were cool and I was like, I felt really
• 2:38:36
  fucked up. I noun realized the kids were
• 2:38:40
  actually watching and children and that man.
• 2:38:43
  It just really put a nail in me because I'm like, I don't push
• 2:38:47
  it on my own kids. I knew that I could be wrong
• 2:38:51
  about what I was viewing and I always kept my videos to myself
• 2:38:55
  and I did this shit to wear. My son wouldn't be in the room
• 2:38:58
  or my daughter to be able to hear what I was saying and I
• 2:39:01
  always tried to be honest with people, but when you hear that,
• 2:39:05
  children are sitting there watching you and you're
• 2:39:08
  literally teaching other people's kids.
• 2:39:11
  Well man, that's scary stuff that is.
• 2:39:13
  Scary. Because one day, if you find
• 2:39:16
  out, you're wrong, you won't ever be able to go back to the
• 2:39:19
  10 year old or two 12 year older.
• 2:39:21
  The teenager that you said all that bullshit too.
• 2:39:26
  Right, and kids are so impressionable.
• 2:39:32
  Yeah, it's it's kind of brutal but you know, I know I know God
• 2:39:39
  has a plan for all of them and, you know, despite what both of
• 2:39:44
  us and the past and they have told other people here we are
• 2:39:48
  today in communion with God. And there's nothing, he's not
• 2:39:55
  really anything else that I could have asked for.
• 2:39:58
  Give me one second. I'm going to swap out my
• 2:39:59
  microphone. All right, sounds good.
• 2:40:14
  I see some people out there talking about a predetermined
• 2:40:18
  and also Calvinism and all that. Yeah, that that is a pretty damn
• 2:40:23
  scary concept of religion that some people have out there where
• 2:40:28
  they believe that people are predetermined for hell
• 2:40:31
  unfortunately, there are some verses that I've actually heard
• 2:40:35
  calvinist use that they do have some impact or something people
• 2:40:40
  need to ponder. But it also on the other hand
• 2:40:44
  and I hate to say this at it doesn't make the it's definitely
• 2:40:49
  not going to impress the piss out of people who are not in
• 2:40:51
  Christianity, who already have a bad idea or feeling about God.
• 2:40:57
  Calvinism is pretty rough. Oh, ooh, in the past.
• 2:41:11
  I've had lots of Satanist X2, come in the room and talk to him
• 2:41:14
  and all that surprisingly, they were a lot more respectful than
• 2:41:18
  atheist. They always treated me with
• 2:41:21
  respect and we had good conversations.
• 2:41:24
  I never felt like I was being fucked with whenever dealing
• 2:41:27
  with Satanist but atheists another Hannah's whole different
• 2:41:31
  ball game. Why my friend Steven bolan's
• 2:41:45
  probably with some me up here, cussing away like a sailor and
• 2:41:48
  going oh come on, Brett slower down.
• 2:42:04
  Looks like water is having some kind of problems over there.
• 2:42:09
  I'll probably be ending the broadcast a little bit.
• 2:42:12
  I keep on wanting to try to do things during the day because I
• 2:42:16
  get people who cry about the time zone and how they evolved
• 2:42:19
  hard time, being able to talk to me in the evening.
• 2:42:23
  But every time I open one of these things, it doesn't seem
• 2:42:26
  like there's a whole decent audience when it's happened.
• 2:42:30
  And I like talking to a few people the time, but it's just
• 2:42:34
  shocking, you get so many people like please.
• 2:42:36
  Brett. Do something in the morning dew.
• 2:42:38
  something in the afternoon and I do it and then there's no one to
• 2:42:43
  be found to have a discussion with Oh goodness.
• 2:42:49
  Yeah I agree with that Loop Satanism is pretty much the
• 2:42:54
  theatrical form of humanism. Yeah.
• 2:43:01
  Why? Well, looks like water got
• 2:43:04
  disconnected. Oh, he's back.
• 2:43:07
  I can back there water. All right, give me one second.
• 2:43:11
  It sounds like my headphones are not connected.
• 2:43:16
  Your microphone sounds more clearer and stronger now.
• 2:43:25
  We can't hear me as head. Phones got disconnected.
• 2:43:29
  Oh boy, my back hurts. Oh no, there he goes, again,
• 2:43:59
  water. You need to get this shit fixed.
• 2:44:01
  I'm going to be shutting this down soon.
• 2:44:03
  I don't want to be sitting there in a room, all by myself.
• 2:44:08
  Boy. Well, let's hope he got it
• 2:44:17
  working this time. All right.
• 2:44:20
  Are you there now? Watered you get your shit fixed.
• 2:44:26
  All right. What about now?
• 2:44:28
  Yeah, your voice actually sounds stronger using the computer now.
• 2:44:33
  Now I'm I was trying to switch my are pods, although it does
• 2:44:38
  seem like it's coming through. I don't know.
• 2:44:43
  No, Your Voice Sounds stronger, and you don't have any
• 2:44:46
  background noise. Now it sounds real clear.
• 2:44:49
  When you do, get a chance to have a discussion with Kymco the
• 2:44:52
  night of preciate it, if you use, whatever you're using right
• 2:44:55
  now earlier, it wasn't horrible, but it sounds really good now,
• 2:45:02
  okay, all right, all right, let's do the technology.
• 2:45:05
  Yeah, yeah yeah, we got to work as better to work out the Kinks
• 2:45:10
  before the actual debate. Wait yeah that's gonna have a
• 2:45:13
  good discussion with can't you gotta you gotta understand I'm
• 2:45:16
  putting this shit on a radio and also setting the darn the
• 2:45:20
  YouTube channel. I want everybody to be heard
• 2:45:23
  real good in the discussion. so why are you so I guess is it
• 2:45:34
  from going to a museum or something and seeing a couple
• 2:45:37
  bones and you just said to yourself up this, Are you hear
• 2:45:42
  me water? Yeah, I can hear you.
• 2:45:45
  I said that, what was it that got you thinking that Evolution
• 2:45:48
  had any credibility to it? Anyway, well what was it?
• 2:45:53
  That got me thinking. Evolution has credibility to it.
• 2:45:57
  Yeah, well so I got to be honest.
• 2:46:02
  I've always believed in evolution even when I was
• 2:46:05
  growing up at the Southern Baptist Church.
• 2:46:09
  My, you know, it's funny. I grew up Turn Baptist but my
• 2:46:13
  dad, you know, he wasn't very strict.
• 2:46:19
  He was always open to questions and I actually grew up watching
• 2:46:22
  just as much Discovery Channel and Science Channel.
• 2:46:25
  As I did Disney Channel. We were always watching, you
• 2:46:29
  know, Nature Documentaries, or MythBusters, that was a favorite
• 2:46:32
  of mine. And so in those people that run
• 2:46:37
  in those circles, they promote Evolution and they believe in
• 2:46:40
  evolution. So I Believe in that, I learned
• 2:46:42
  it in school. And then even when I obviously,
• 2:46:47
  when I was an atheist, I still believed in it, but as I
• 2:46:51
  converted, you know, actually it's funny part of the
• 2:46:55
  conversion process, I guess a factor I would say.
• 2:47:02
  Was for me that Catholics do believe in evolution and
• 2:47:06
  actually the church has accepted Evolution for you know, decades.
• 2:47:11
  It's and they never really put up a fight against it either and
• 2:47:15
  so that was actually part of it wasn't the main thing at all.
• 2:47:19
  There are all sorts of historical reasons, and
• 2:47:22
  Theological reasons that led me to Catholicism outside of
• 2:47:25
  evolution question, but it was part of it.
• 2:47:31
  Alright, fair enough. Well, besides going to a museum,
• 2:47:35
  what are other things have you been able to personally interact
• 2:47:38
  with that? Gave you the idea that evolution
• 2:47:41
  is true Well, you know, they they taught us in school and
• 2:47:48
  they gave us a good run down. I've also read several books.
• 2:47:53
  On the topic, I would say, you know, outside of a museum,
• 2:47:59
  something you can see in the world and I know as soon as I
• 2:48:02
  say this, we're going to probably butt heads, but there
• 2:48:06
  isn't a dip there. There isn't necessarily a
• 2:48:11
  difference between micro Oh and macro-evolution macro-evolution
• 2:48:15
  is just microevolution on a longer scale on the larger scale
• 2:48:20
  and so I would say you know looking around it the different
• 2:48:24
  species on Earth and how similar.
• 2:48:27
  Yeah different. They are from one another say
• 2:48:30
  all the different types of dogs or all the different types of
• 2:48:34
  lizards or cats and how they all differ from each other, I can
• 2:48:39
  see the tree of evolution splitting When I look at animals
• 2:48:44
  and compare them to one another Revolution as well as
• 2:48:48
  abiogenesis or described as natural processes though.
• 2:48:53
  How do you how do you make it compatible with God?
• 2:49:02
  Well, you know, you know, I guess.
• 2:49:08
  I guess I would say that I I don't I wonder if you're looking
• 2:49:12
  at it the wrong way because there's there's all sorts of
• 2:49:15
  things that happen on Earth that are natural processes that maybe
• 2:49:22
  we could say, you know, God didn't necessarily have.
• 2:49:25
  Well I guess it'd be an interesting theological
• 2:49:27
  question. We can get into it, but does
• 2:49:28
  does God have a hand in every? Well, you know what I was.
• 2:49:34
  I've bit my answer to this question is yes but does God
• 2:49:36
  have a hand in? Every storm that forms and every
• 2:49:40
  tornado, or every drought. And I guess the answer is yes,
• 2:49:45
  but those are natural processes, right?
• 2:49:47
  I don't, I don't view those as being unconnected from God just
• 2:49:52
  because they're natural and I think evolution is the same way.
• 2:49:54
  It's a process that happened on Earth but if God set the
• 2:49:59
  universe into motion then that would mean that he's responsible
• 2:50:03
  for evolution. He's right back so I can
• 2:50:06
  appreciate. I can appreciate.
• 2:50:07
  Using the analogy of Storms and weather issues.
• 2:50:11
  But you know, just as well as high, a storm is a storm, a
• 2:50:14
  storm was the same thing. Millions years ago, as it is.
• 2:50:17
  Now, the only thing that we can say different is its intensity.
• 2:50:22
  Let me let me try some basic stuff and just kind of consider
• 2:50:26
  it a warm-up for whenever you talk to Camp because he's going
• 2:50:29
  to go after yarn a lot of shit but he has different ways of
• 2:50:31
  wording it. Do you believe that you came
• 2:50:35
  from an ancient rat? Do I believe that I came from an
• 2:50:40
  ancient rat? Yes.
• 2:50:43
  I got to be honest, I don't know what the current consensus is
• 2:50:47
  on, what our common ancestor is. And actually I wanted to talk to
• 2:50:52
  you because you sent me that article from science dot-org
• 2:50:57
  about the rocks. And I actually wanted to talk to
• 2:51:01
  you about that. We can finish this first but I
• 2:51:03
  had to, I guess a bit of a different interpretation of what
• 2:51:09
  all of that meant. Well, you do know you were
• 2:51:13
  Mentioning earlier and yeah we get into that if you want to but
• 2:51:17
  you mentioned earlier that you believe in the the tree where
• 2:51:20
  everything starts spreading out. Now if you believe that
• 2:51:23
  everything basically come from a tree, then obviously it's going
• 2:51:27
  to go down to a seed. This would mean that you are
• 2:51:30
  related somehow to ancient rats. And if you look up on YouTube
• 2:51:36
  not just YouTube but also Google type in humans evolved from
• 2:51:40
  ancient rats, even got a special name for it.
• 2:51:43
  In cartoon pictures, they draw that that, at some point in
• 2:51:46
  time, your ancestors were running around fucking trees as
• 2:51:49
  these little rat creatures. And then they tell you that the
• 2:51:53
  rat started getting bigger, and their hands started getting more
• 2:51:56
  extended from climbing trees. And then they became the, you
• 2:52:00
  know, the primate monkey like creatures that were swinging
• 2:52:03
  around she like Tarzan, you weren't aware that.
• 2:52:07
  You understand that before that you also, it says that you were
• 2:52:11
  reptiles and It begins all the way down to a fucking fish.
• 2:52:17
  Yeah, I'm looking at the the rat thing right now and it does seem
• 2:52:20
  like there is somewhat of a consensus on this and you're
• 2:52:23
  right. It's saying this, this is about
• 2:52:27
  roughly between 145 to 160 million years ago, look, I mean,
• 2:52:34
  I would say this, you can D and you come and you can run the
• 2:52:37
  genome test on a rat today and see that we share DNA with rats
• 2:52:42
  today. I mean, if we, if we seek was I
• 2:52:45
  could pull it up right now. The genome for II don't, I don't
• 2:52:49
  have any problem with that at all water.
• 2:52:52
  If if you look into the DNA of a chimp or primate or a gorilla
• 2:52:57
  and you happen to find similarities and all that,
• 2:53:00
  that's not my problem. That's not something.
• 2:53:02
  I'm arguing with. What I'm having an issue with
• 2:53:05
  this. These full anatomical structures
• 2:53:09
  going to these these major changes 90 an atheist or
• 2:53:13
  Catholic might argue. Well, fuck.
• 2:53:15
  That takes a long, long ass time.
• 2:53:17
  I'm there's a problem though water?
• 2:53:20
  There's one thing that a lot of people forget is they forget
• 2:53:24
  that Evolution kind of went through a reset period after the
• 2:53:27
  dinosaurs got their ass kicked. Remember the meteorite, the
• 2:53:31
  destruction, the extinction thing, the Cambrian Period comes
• 2:53:35
  along and suddenly an explosive, they even got a word for it.
• 2:53:40
  They call it super Evolution where the shit just started
• 2:53:43
  coming out of nowhere just to verse various creatures.
• 2:53:47
  Features the started coming out and they were going through
• 2:53:50
  changes a lot quicker than what they say happened in the
• 2:53:54
  beginning. How do you explain that?
• 2:53:56
  After an apocalyptic event of a destructive ass Rock hitting the
• 2:54:01
  Earth to the point where it kills everything on the surface?
• 2:54:05
  The Cambrian explosion is a really interesting topic and I
• 2:54:10
  mean, we could honestly spend hours talking about it, but from
• 2:54:14
  what I understand and again, Like I said the other day, I'm
• 2:54:18
  not this is not the field that I'm going into and I don't claim
• 2:54:21
  to be an expert from what I understand.
• 2:54:25
  There are, there aren't plenty of hypotheses about or
• 2:54:31
  hypotheses that explain how this could have happened.
• 2:54:35
  I've heard it put before, actually, in a book that I read,
• 2:54:40
  I guess it's two years ago now. Since 20:23 that says that the
• 2:54:47
  oxygen levels on Earth were different about at that time
• 2:54:53
  which was beneficial to life. And it might have explained why.
• 2:54:58
  There was so much life at that time, I'm trying to find the
• 2:55:03
  book right now. Well, let me draw some logic at
• 2:55:07
  you while you're looking at this location laundry.
• 2:55:10
  Okay. I give you your cake and let you
• 2:55:12
  eat it too. That 80 million years ago, we
• 2:55:15
  were fucking rodents. So this would have to mean that
• 2:55:18
  at some point in time. Some rodents basically said, I
• 2:55:22
  fucked the other rats. I'm going to go somewhere else.
• 2:55:25
  I'm going to go do something, you know, they're just going to
• 2:55:27
  separate for whatever reason. Maybe a tree fell in front of
• 2:55:31
  the other one, and they just decided to take a different
• 2:55:34
  direction. Now, we both know that rats have
• 2:55:36
  always been known to be very social creatures.
• 2:55:39
  They like to hang with each other.
• 2:55:41
  They don't usually split off and said, unless they think there's
• 2:55:44
  some cheese off the fucking corner, right?
• 2:55:47
  Right. Okay, follow me on this.
• 2:55:50
  Uh-huh. What did these different group?
• 2:55:53
  Of rats? A supposedly ended up being our
• 2:55:56
  ancestors who went through the massive changes.
• 2:55:59
  What was the difference in the environment from the other Rats
• 2:56:03
  on the other side of the fucking tree?
• 2:56:07
  Say won't repeat that last part one more time.
• 2:56:09
  What is, what is the difference in the variables?
• 2:56:12
  In the environment? Basically, what I'm asking you
• 2:56:15
  is what was going on in the environment that gave these
• 2:56:19
  Rats, the the trick to be able to go into the next
• 2:56:23
  transformation is where the other rats remained fucking
• 2:56:27
  rats. Okay, so I want to, I want to
• 2:56:32
  say a couple things and I'm this first part and I'm not trying to
• 2:56:36
  be pedantic and I don't know that you did this on purpose,
• 2:56:39
  but I just I want to clarify because it is something that
• 2:56:42
  I've noticed happens when evolution is discussed.
• 2:56:45
  And I actually think that it's important to get these dates,
• 2:56:49
  right? So this would have been twice as
• 2:56:52
  long as you said. So this wouldn't have been 80
• 2:56:54
  million years ago, the source that I had found is saying 160
• 2:56:58
  million years ago, Go. So it's two times as long ago,
• 2:57:01
  but the answer for, you know, how is one, however, the rats
• 2:57:07
  splitting off and what are the factors for one needing to climb
• 2:57:10
  a tree? It may be that one of the rats,
• 2:57:13
  you know, let's say there's a big Colony on the edge of a
• 2:57:16
  field and there's I use this analogy previously, there's a
• 2:57:19
  forest that goes up against the field, some of the rats may, you
• 2:57:25
  know, Scurry up the tree Once and they find some food and
• 2:57:29
  that's fine. But they continue to eat on the
• 2:57:30
  ground until slowly. There's a more and more rats
• 2:57:34
  that are going up into the tree to get the nuts or the leaves
• 2:57:39
  directly off of the tree rather than on the ground.
• 2:57:42
  And so slowly through generations and generations of
• 2:57:45
  these rats, there are some that are, you know, still out in the
• 2:57:48
  field because there still food and there.
• 2:57:50
  But as the population is, a population, is increasing.
• 2:57:54
  They have to look elsewhere for food and so some start to head
• 2:57:57
  up into the trees and they Develop Anatomy.
• 2:58:03
  That is better at climbing. All right, so you think from
• 2:58:09
  them climbing up trees, you are aware that fucking rats
• 2:58:13
  nowadays. Even nowadays, had the ability
• 2:58:17
  to fucking climb trees. They have the ability to get
• 2:58:20
  into water, pipes and shit and do amazing fucking things rats
• 2:58:25
  are survivors. Now look at this sure no I don't
• 2:58:30
  know where what your sources you could very well be telling me
• 2:58:34
  the truth because for some reason scientists get all fucked
• 2:58:38
  up. Up on their time frame on the
• 2:58:39
  rap deal. But here's mine.
• 2:58:42
  This is where I got it from 80 million years ago so I'm just
• 2:58:46
  like making a shit up or throwing it out there iMac.
• 2:58:49
  I will grant waiting Glad okay. That's no, that's fair.
• 2:58:55
  No, I will take back what I said this.
• 2:58:57
  Absolutely fair. You do have a source right
• 2:58:59
  there. So, I mean, this that I'm
• 2:59:01
  looking at says something different, I'd actually like to
• 2:59:06
  look at the studies themselves because both, you and I are
• 2:59:09
  using what journalists have reported on from the science.
• 2:59:13
  So we're looking at it, you know, from the third mouth to
• 2:59:17
  say this information, so I'm sure if we went back to the
• 2:59:19
  actual Source, we might get more of a consensus.
• 2:59:22
  But I'm I got, I got Ideo. I got videos of everything that
• 2:59:27
  I find. That's fucked up on YouTube
• 2:59:30
  talking about these issues. I've copied the videos down and
• 2:59:33
  save them hell. I even put some of them in my
• 2:59:35
  stream and stuff for people to be able to see the point is
• 2:59:39
  though, is it's believed that you were once a damn reptile and
• 2:59:44
  amphibian. There's some scientists who have
• 2:59:46
  been claimed that you might actually share genetics with a
• 2:59:48
  fucking dinosaur and it just goes on and on and all the way
• 2:59:52
  down to the point of snot on a rock and some How it created a
• 2:59:56
  self-replicating cell now besides watching fucking TV or
• 3:00:00
  hearing some old far? Darn a fucking video saying this
• 3:00:03
  shit. And what way personally, have
• 3:00:06
  you established that? This is true.
• 3:00:08
  Basically, what I'm asking you is what personal type of
• 3:00:13
  Engagement. Have you had if you went to a
• 3:00:15
  lab experiment that yourself or had a shot down to see if you
• 3:00:21
  your blood kin Pairs? And I want you to think about
• 3:00:23
  this too. How could you actually contrast
• 3:00:26
  your DNA? Now with something that's been
• 3:00:28
  dead, that no longer has fucking DNA.
• 3:00:33
  Well, we we we actually can get DNA from fossils and and from
• 3:00:38
  fossilized skin, I mean, there's all sorts of ways that
• 3:00:41
  scientists can obtain DNA and things that have long been dead.
• 3:00:46
  I actually have had my genome sequence, 23andMe, have you ever
• 3:00:50
  heard of 23andMe? I believe I heard something
• 3:00:54
  about it. So basically there's it's not
• 3:00:57
  the only company that does it. There's a few companies now that
• 3:00:59
  do it but bu you take a swab of spit you, you know, scoop the
• 3:01:03
  inside of your mouth, they send you a little test kit.
• 3:01:05
  So you stick it in your mouth, get a swab of spit and you send
• 3:01:08
  it back to them and they will actually sequence the DNA for
• 3:01:14
  you and I have had it done. I haven't looked at in a while I
• 3:01:17
  have to go to their website and look but it tells you I mean
• 3:01:21
  well, I told A earlier, I don't have a problem with I am not a
• 3:01:26
  like against the idea of a sharing, some genetic traits or
• 3:01:31
  I believe that we were all every animal on earth, and Man was
• 3:01:34
  created by the same painter. Basically, I feel like you're
• 3:01:39
  going to find that you want. I get that that makes sense.
• 3:01:43
  It's the anatomical structure and trez brings up a good point.
• 3:01:47
  This is something that you probably won't have to worry
• 3:01:49
  with Kent hovind darn. He doesn't usually go, Go in
• 3:01:52
  this Direction with it but being that I'm an asshole I like to
• 3:01:56
  fuck around with stuff. You do realize that in the last
• 3:01:59
  50 years, one of the biggest breakthroughs in science is
• 3:02:03
  genetic. Splicing and genetic
• 3:02:05
  manipulation back in the day of Stalin The Atheist.
• 3:02:09
  Did you know that he used to try to create something called a
• 3:02:13
  chimpanzee? Not a chimpanzee humanzee have
• 3:02:17
  you ever heard of this? I think I've heard of it but I
• 3:02:21
  don't know if I realized it was real.
• 3:02:24
  Well, what Stalin tried to do is you brought the for those out
• 3:02:27
  there who may not have heard of this shit Stalin, basically got
• 3:02:31
  a bunch of scientists together and he had this fucked up idea
• 3:02:35
  being the dummy that he was that he wanted to create humans who
• 3:02:40
  had the strength to fucking primates and apes and all that
• 3:02:43
  kind of shit. He wanted to create a half human
• 3:02:47
  kind of something that could easily be controlled and then
• 3:02:50
  use it on the field. Whenever war is happening.
• 3:02:54
  And they called it the humanzee. Now, scientists tried everything
• 3:02:57
  from splicing, the genetic editing to manipulation, they
• 3:03:01
  even through women and fucking rooms with these creatures and
• 3:03:04
  tried to get them sexually arouse.
• 3:03:07
  So they fuck each other? Because he figured, if they're
• 3:03:10
  related to us, they might be able to actually viably create
• 3:03:14
  an offspring of that. This is not bullshit.
• 3:03:17
  This is historically it down. I've got you, because I know
• 3:03:21
  that the u.s. government was up to Some insane shit as well
• 3:03:25
  during the Cold War. So I'm sure the Soviets were
• 3:03:27
  doing just as wild of experiments.
• 3:03:33
  Well the point was is that they they claim that because of the
• 3:03:37
  war and all that all this research and all this shit was
• 3:03:40
  fucked over. But today they believe that
• 3:03:43
  there were some creatures and there was some images taken and
• 3:03:47
  all that as some weird-ass stuff.
• 3:03:49
  The point is is we also see that farmers use a lot of genetics,
• 3:03:53
  it with vegetables and fruit and then also with animals and stuff
• 3:03:57
  so they can get better producing milk and Chicken all that.
• 3:04:01
  So how would you knowing that? The the animal kingdom has been
• 3:04:06
  fucked with repeatedly and we've had a lot of things put in
• 3:04:09
  ourselves. How do you know that you're not
• 3:04:11
  just genetically, altered? I told you to fuck with your
• 3:04:17
  head. Didn't I told you is gonna fuck
• 3:04:18
  with your head. How do I know that?
• 3:04:20
  We aren't genetically modified modified.
• 3:04:23
  Yeah. Well, I guess I guess.
• 3:04:33
  I don't know. I guess I mean something I would
• 3:04:38
  say it seems like these experiments didn't get very far
• 3:04:42
  and I guess I would find solace in The belief that at least as I
• 3:04:50
  understand it. The truth that this is an
• 3:04:53
  emerging technology and I no doubt believe in the future man.
• 3:04:59
  And machine May merge in ways that are shocking.
• 3:05:02
  But I don't know if we're there yet.
• 3:05:06
  I know they've done experiments and tried things but I don't
• 3:05:09
  know if they've ever been truly successful.
• 3:05:13
  They have they have been you need to look in genetic.
• 3:05:17
  Splicing the fish as well as they've actually fucked around
• 3:05:22
  with cats. Have you ever seen the?
• 3:05:24
  I'm not kidding. You on this I've brought this up
• 3:05:27
  with some non-believers and they just shit their pants on it.
• 3:05:30
  But have you ever heard of the glowing cat?
• 3:05:32
  So the glowing fish, they actually made it to where these
• 3:05:35
  creatures did. This.
• 3:05:36
  And they've actually made it to where they genetically Supply,
• 3:05:39
  some fish to make it to where they're bigger, that they're
• 3:05:42
  more bigger than usual. In order to create more of a
• 3:05:44
  food resource. Okay, by the way, in case you're
• 3:05:50
  not looking at the screen, I'm actually showing you some of the
• 3:05:54
  studies that they've done and some of the accomplishments they
• 3:05:57
  made, they even got a fucking goat that somehow people that
• 3:06:02
  we've some kind of material that can be used for clothing.
• 3:06:06
  It's crazy, crazy shit. Yeah, it's it's a it's kind of
• 3:06:15
  overwhelming to think about. You see that right there?
• 3:06:20
  Look at the side here, where my mouse is rolling around.
• 3:06:24
  Everything's going dark. Nice.
• 3:06:26
  Let's go now. Okay, okay.
• 3:06:31
  So I'm guessing they took some kind of Gene from a sea
• 3:06:34
  creature. A sea creature that has
• 3:06:36
  luminescence and they spliced it with a rat, huh?
• 3:06:44
  Yeah. Now some of the shit that you're
• 3:06:47
  seeing on the screen is bullshit some asshole driver, you can
• 3:06:51
  photoshopping, but there is some of it that's actually real.
• 3:06:56
  You just looked up, gene, splicing sometime and you'll see
• 3:06:59
  some really really fucking twisted shit.
• 3:07:02
  The scientists have done the animals and creatures, and some
• 3:07:05
  countries. They've made it against the law
• 3:07:07
  to do this kind of stuff because a lot of animals suffered due to
• 3:07:10
  the genetic. Splicing they did.
• 3:07:13
  So that's the point. The question is, if scientists
• 3:07:16
  can do this and they've been doing it for the past 50 years
• 3:07:20
  and you notice that the whole Darwin thing and I've elution
• 3:07:23
  started getting really big round, the same fucking time.
• 3:07:25
  I'm really starting getting noticed and pushing the
• 3:07:28
  school's. How do you know that some of
• 3:07:30
  this should just wasn't modified Bright.
• 3:07:39
  Crazy question, right? Told you fuck with the mind.
• 3:07:42
  It's a crazy question and, you know, I hate to answer it this
• 3:07:45
  way. I don't have proof that it
• 3:07:49
  wasn't but I guess I would, you know, there doesn't really seem
• 3:07:53
  to be anyone sounding the alarm on it.
• 3:07:57
  That has a lot of Buzz and so I guess I would have to take
• 3:08:02
  solace and that it is something that will come, it's going to
• 3:08:06
  happen. But again, I don't know if they
• 3:08:08
  have have gotten to the point where it's truly a technology to
• 3:08:16
  be feared or a technology that that works and can get them can
• 3:08:21
  accomplish what they're trying to get it to accomplish.
• 3:08:26
  Well, they've been able to accomplish a great deal of
• 3:08:29
  stuff, and it's actually used in farming processes with animals
• 3:08:34
  and all that. They've managed to make some
• 3:08:36
  pigs bigger. They've managed to make fish
• 3:08:39
  bigger and the whole reasoning. Their justification for this is
• 3:08:43
  they wanted us to have more resources.
• 3:08:44
  So we wouldn't starve out continue to create these
• 3:08:47
  different elements and Concepts and they have accomplishment,
• 3:08:52
  there's fucking tons of videos where they've done this and
• 3:08:55
  there's there's also people out there who are claiming that they
• 3:08:58
  wanted to do trials, humans, but that's not allowed in America
• 3:09:02
  such as cloning as well. Yeah, I know that cloning is I
• 3:09:08
  know that cloning has been going on at least since the 21st
• 3:09:10
  century came about and I think they did like the first sheep to
• 3:09:14
  ever be cloned in Australia or something like that.
• 3:09:18
  Back in like, 2001 or 2004. Yeah.
• 3:09:25
  What what do you think about here?
• 3:09:28
  I know we've been having fun with Evolution, but how do you
• 3:09:31
  feel about the concept of harvesting The concept of
• 3:09:36
  harvesting. Well, if you don't, if you don't
• 3:09:41
  know what I'm talking about, I can tell the audience and
• 3:09:44
  yourself harvesting is whenever they come up with the idea of
• 3:09:49
  cloning bodies, cloning a duplicate of you, and then
• 3:09:52
  keeping it on ice that way. If you ever get injured or you
• 3:09:56
  need a new kidney, they just simply chop it out of your
• 3:09:59
  identical. Twin, that was cloned from you.
• 3:10:04
  Do you feel like that's morally ethical?
• 3:10:06
  Some you'd go along with. I mean, remember, Birth at
• 3:10:09
  things, not going to be conscious.
• 3:10:11
  It's simply going to grow in like a manufactured womb.
• 3:10:14
  Anyway, would you give a shit about chopping up another
• 3:10:18
  version of you in order to keep your original version, okay?
• 3:10:25
  Huh. I mean, so it's not conscious,
• 3:10:31
  it doesn't they keep it in, you know, an artificial womb and it
• 3:10:35
  doesn't, it's never, it's not moving around or thinking on its
• 3:10:39
  own it could very well be conscious of they were allowed
• 3:10:43
  to wake up but they're going to keep it like cryogenically kind
• 3:10:47
  of Frozen in Time where they can just get in there, make about 10
• 3:10:51
  versions of you and, you know, just in case the new kidney goes
• 3:10:55
  out or its doesn't work properly, they can Cut the other
• 3:10:59
  version of you up and just continuously do that.
• 3:11:05
  Well, if it had if it had the potential to be conscious then I
• 3:11:10
  think I would have an issue with it and it's interesting because
• 3:11:14
  I guess I hear I would draw an analogy to abortion, you know.
• 3:11:18
  I feel like someone who would be in favor of this harvesting
• 3:11:22
  thing would also be pro-choice and I'm not and I don't know
• 3:11:26
  what your stance on this says but I know I'm not because even
• 3:11:28
  though they can argue that you know the the fetus it hasn't
• 3:11:33
  been born yet it does. Doesn't have its own thoughts.
• 3:11:36
  It's not a it's not conscious, it still has that potential and
• 3:11:41
  that's why I, you know, I'm pro-life and I guess on this
• 3:11:45
  issue I would have to be pro-life as well.
• 3:11:48
  You know, if it's a clone it's still it's still a version of
• 3:11:51
  you. It still has the potential to
• 3:11:55
  think like a person and just because we're keeping it in a
• 3:11:58
  state where it can't doesn't mean that that possibility goes
• 3:12:02
  away. So, No, I don't know if I would
• 3:12:06
  be in favor of this bro. Yeah, what their G-Man I think
• 3:12:12
  is what they call home part. Human part wolf.
• 3:12:18
  I don't know about that. I've heard a lot of weird shit,
• 3:12:21
  but I was heard about the wolf in the human thing.
• 3:12:25
  Be aware wolf. Oh werewolf.
• 3:12:29
  Well, lot of atheists already. Think they come from fucking
• 3:12:32
  fish. Are they think they're Mermaid?
• 3:12:33
  So, I suppose Werewolfs not off the table.
• 3:12:37
  Yeah. I just say deists.
• 3:12:40
  Okay, I know. I know there's some different
• 3:12:43
  folks out there, for sure. So, what do you think about the
• 3:12:48
  Do you believe that you actually came from?
• 3:12:50
  Now this is an interesting thing, you know, that atheists
• 3:12:53
  believe that whenever a lot of them believed to Evolution their
• 3:12:57
  ancestors went in fish form were kicked.
• 3:13:00
  Alex, I think is how it's pronounced.
• 3:13:03
  They I'm sorry in fish form. They were what ticked Alex.
• 3:13:08
  Oh the yeah, the the extinct animal.
• 3:13:11
  What is it? Let me pull it up Tick.
• 3:13:17
  Well, I'm about to blow your mind on that.
• 3:13:19
  What you just said? I'm tryna it sounds familiar.
• 3:13:26
  I'm trying to pull it up, a not sure how to spell it.
• 3:13:34
  Well don't ask me, Google helps me, do spell, correction science
• 3:13:38
  called out for you, okay? But here's the thing that's
• 3:13:41
  going to blow your mind while you're looking it up.
• 3:13:43
  This is the fish that atheist. Played Grandpa came from just
• 3:13:47
  ask Richard Dawkins, okay, so here's the deal.
• 3:13:51
  I'm not too long ago over in China, they ended up finding
• 3:13:56
  kicked. Alex, they're not fucking
• 3:13:57
  extinct. Like scientists used to claim
• 3:14:00
  they're still alive in. These creatures are floating
• 3:14:02
  around over. By China.
• 3:14:04
  You can actually find them there in abundance.
• 3:14:07
  They're not like almost extinct or anything, but scientists are
• 3:14:11
  still refused to remove a lot of that shit that they believe
• 3:14:15
  about ticked. Alex, are you awareness?
• 3:14:18
  Well, obviously you're not or you wouldn't have said they're
• 3:14:20
  extinct I don't think I I know I was not aware that they had
• 3:14:29
  found, I just found the tiktaalik right now, it's
• 3:14:31
  definitely familiar. I've read all about this, but
• 3:14:35
  I'm trying to find now. Something about them being
• 3:14:42
  alive. Where are you finding that?
• 3:14:45
  They are still alive? Well, but just sucking
• 3:14:49
  tiktaalik. So, they've survived or found
• 3:14:53
  next to China. Yeah, Chinese.
• 3:14:55
  The Chinese is actually caught them, actually caught them and
• 3:14:59
  brought them up. And some of them actually use
• 3:15:01
  them as a food source because they're big ugly fucking
• 3:15:04
  creatures and the Chinese. I ain't trying to be hateful but
• 3:15:07
  they'll eat about damn near anything including cat.
• 3:15:09
  Cats and dogs. Yeah.
• 3:15:12
  You know what? I'm not finding anything about
• 3:15:15
  them being alive. I thought I Googled tiktaalik
• 3:15:18
  found in China and everything is talking about fossils, okay, all
• 3:15:23
  done. Said, Not only am I gonna show
• 3:15:26
  you the text but I'm going to show you the actual pictures of
• 3:15:29
  these things, okay? Okay, hold on one second.
• 3:15:41
  How do you what did you think? About my analogy on this
• 3:15:44
  harvesting with abortion? Because to me it kind of does
• 3:15:49
  sound like a pro choice versus pro-life situation.
• 3:15:56
  You know if you got another entity, another human life even
• 3:15:59
  if it is a clown that you are keeping and using it for organs,
• 3:16:12
  It reminds me, are you are you pro-choice or pro-life Brett?
• 3:16:16
  Well, I believe that the whenever a woman gets pregnant,
• 3:16:20
  that's a human inside of her, not just like some clump of
• 3:16:23
  cells. I've heard you say.
• 3:16:25
  Yeah, it's nothing but a clump of cells will so are you?
• 3:16:28
  We're all fucking clumps of cells, right?
• 3:16:31
  Yeah. And as far as the other thing
• 3:16:35
  even the Catholics, I'm pretty sure agree that life starts at
• 3:16:39
  conception so yeah. Whenever they say it's an
• 3:16:43
  abortion it's just a nice way of saying that they're killing a
• 3:16:46
  human life. I mean, think about this, this
• 3:16:49
  is something you want to bring up a while back a few years back
• 3:16:53
  and people probably going to poop themselves when they hear
• 3:16:56
  this. But a few years ago, there was a
• 3:17:00
  young lady who found herself in a car accident where she was
• 3:17:04
  defined as brain dead. All right, her parents even
• 3:17:09
  though she was in this conditioner, parents kept on.
• 3:17:11
  Visiting her and and seeing her and talking to her, like she was
• 3:17:15
  still there for them to be able to have a discussion with well,
• 3:17:19
  the more and more. They came, they started noticing
• 3:17:22
  some really fucking unusual changes about their daughter.
• 3:17:26
  So they had the doctors look in on it and detest and everything
• 3:17:30
  and they found out that she was pregnant.
• 3:17:33
  She was pregnant while she was in this condition and she has
• 3:17:36
  been there for a few years and she wasn't pregnant before they
• 3:17:40
  found out that ad. Doctor basically had come in and
• 3:17:44
  decided to have his way with her body but she was brain dead.
• 3:17:48
  They defined her as brain dead, not conscious but her body was
• 3:17:52
  able to still function to the point where she could have a
• 3:17:54
  baby. And let me ask you something
• 3:17:57
  because that woman is fucking dead sleep.
• 3:18:00
  Does it make it okay to fuck her like that and do that.
• 3:18:05
  No, not at all. No.
• 3:18:08
  So then the people out there who are pro-choice.
• 3:18:11
  Need to ask himself, does intelligence or the intellect or
• 3:18:16
  how well developed the Consciousness is, is that really
• 3:18:19
  matter when you throw that analogy on the table?
• 3:18:23
  Mmm. I yeah, I approach people that
• 3:18:29
  are pro-choice, you know, if they were honest, if they would
• 3:18:32
  just say You know, it is a baby and I and we're okay with
• 3:18:38
  killing it. Then I would have a lot more
• 3:18:40
  respect for their argument that they won't say that.
• 3:18:43
  Now they try to push through. Yeah, like that.
• 3:18:47
  Yeah, you know you sometimes I'm trying to think of the last time
• 3:18:52
  I really had this argument with someone who was actually
• 3:18:54
  pro-choice. You go you back them into a
• 3:18:57
  corner and they it's like they won't admit that point.
• 3:19:01
  They won't admit the point. It feels like when you're
• 3:19:03
  talking to someone who's an atheist and they won't admit,
• 3:19:07
  you know, the fine-tuning when it's.
• 3:19:10
  So it's just so in their face and they Eight Bell even kind of
• 3:19:14
  acknowledge it in a way when they talk about, you know, the
• 3:19:19
  Earth being the right conditions for Life, they'll almost
• 3:19:23
  acknowledge it. You like a pro-choice person
• 3:19:27
  will acknowledge that they're getting rid of some kind of
• 3:19:31
  living thing, but they won't say that it's a human.
• 3:19:34
  It's so frustrating. You want to know something else?
• 3:19:38
  To hold our nerdy, man. Real quick.
• 3:19:40
  Did you know, not too long ago? There was a woman who was
• 3:19:44
  pregnant and some fucking asshole.
• 3:19:46
  This was all over the news, some prick decided while she was at a
• 3:19:50
  restaurant not looking are paying attention this asshole,
• 3:19:54
  walks up, put some powdery substance and forget what it's
• 3:19:57
  called into her. Drink it made her extremely
• 3:20:00
  uncomfortable, but it wasn't causing her like massive pain.
• 3:20:04
  Like it was killing her but it Is just enough poison to be able
• 3:20:08
  to destroy the baby that was inside of her.
• 3:20:11
  And you know that motherfucker got years for that, they
• 3:20:14
  actually counted the death of the baby along with the woman
• 3:20:18
  and now people who are pro-life are able to use that case.
• 3:20:21
  In that argument to say, why in this instance did the mother and
• 3:20:25
  the baby get counted. But whenever a woman says that
• 3:20:28
  the baby has no value to her, she don't want to do.
• 3:20:31
  It's no longer a baby. You see what I mean?
• 3:20:34
  You see, right? Isn't it, isn't it?
• 3:20:36
  Case that if a pregnant woman is murdered, they will try and
• 3:20:40
  bring up to be charged with murder charges.
• 3:20:43
  That is correct and there only fucking argument for it as well.
• 3:20:47
  She wanted to have the baby and should have been her choice.
• 3:20:51
  That's the only thing that they have, but in the end, there's a
• 3:20:54
  guy that is sitting in prison right now.
• 3:20:57
  Basically, as if he killed a full-blown adult, he's doing the
• 3:21:01
  time. Right?
• 3:21:04
  Yeah. It it doesn't.
• 3:21:06
  It doesn't make any sense to me. I don't get it.
• 3:21:12
  Oh yeah, what's up? There goes, man.
• 3:21:16
  I think the debate between this one leaves are both a serious
• 3:21:21
  versus all, Matt. Dillahunty was over abortion and
• 3:21:26
  she showed proof from science that like start at sesh at
• 3:21:33
  conception. And then Matt didn't let me
• 3:21:38
  guess he put her on mute and said, you're a dishonest
• 3:21:41
  motherfucker. I'm all right.
• 3:21:43
  No, he did have that power in the debate but he did try say
• 3:21:47
  that. Oh, what if someone you broke up
• 3:21:50
  in the hospital and they connect your body to some other guy for
• 3:21:54
  he could live off for you or something?
• 3:21:57
  That Woody that was the only argument.
• 3:21:59
  He had because he can't is not on his show so he can't share
• 3:22:03
  all we think. Matt Dillahunty is and an
• 3:22:09
  embarrassment. You want me to give you an
• 3:22:13
  argument that you'll be able to blast in The Atheist out of the
• 3:22:16
  water. Mr. Water.
• 3:22:18
  Okay, let's go for it. All right, so imagine and you
• 3:22:23
  use this as a hypothetical whenever you're talking to him.
• 3:22:27
  Just say to them that you want them to Envision themselves
• 3:22:30
  sitting on a cliff enjoying nature and seeing the beauty of
• 3:22:34
  the Horizon. And then suddenly a pregnant
• 3:22:37
  woman runs basically a near them, just close enough to where
• 3:22:43
  they can see, and they can comprehend that she's pregnant,
• 3:22:46
  okay? And when he looks at her and
• 3:22:48
  says to her, what are you? What are you doing?
• 3:22:50
  She says, I'm going to throw myself to my death.
• 3:22:54
  Now, she then responds with when the atheist says, no, it's my
• 3:22:59
  body. You must respect my body, and I
• 3:23:02
  can make the choice of what I want to do with it.
• 3:23:05
  Now, what is the atheist going to do in this position?
• 3:23:08
  This is a woman who says she wants to destroy your body, as
• 3:23:11
  well as the baby. What do you do in that position?
• 3:23:18
  I'm assuming that any atheist, who's being intellectually
• 3:23:22
  honest would say that at least their gut feeling would be to
• 3:23:26
  try and stop her for the baby's sake.
• 3:23:28
  If, if not her sake, Which is intellectually dishonest on
• 3:23:33
  their part. Yeah, if you truly respected a
• 3:23:38
  person's body and what they want to do with it you let them kill
• 3:23:41
  themselves and that's the problem that's one of the
• 3:23:44
  reasons why atheists gets referred to as a death cult
• 3:23:47
  because every one of their Solutions and then death but
• 3:23:51
  it'll actually I've asked so many atheists.
• 3:23:54
  Have same question and every single one of them get freaked
• 3:23:58
  out and they're like, well of course I try to talk to her.
• 3:24:01
  I try to stop her, I would if I have to I'll grab her and away
• 3:24:05
  or try to Restrain her in a way where it won't harm the baby and
• 3:24:08
  I said, so it's a baby now good. Now we're onto something.
• 3:24:15
  I mean, it's funny because like, when you have these
• 3:24:18
  conversations with them, I know. I know that they know that it's
• 3:24:24
  a baby. I know that they know this, they
• 3:24:28
  have to know this. It doesn't matter what they say.
• 3:24:31
  It doesn't matter what euphemisms they can throw, they
• 3:24:35
  can put forward. I know that they know that it's
• 3:24:38
  a baby because I know that they know that pregnancy is a Horton.
• 3:24:43
  That pregnancy is the most fundamental part of life of reap
• 3:24:47
  of life being reproduced for us as humans.
• 3:24:52
  It's just, it's it's so frustrating to have a
• 3:24:55
  conversation and try to come yourself and in good faith.
• 3:25:00
  When, you know that the whole time they it's like it's in the
• 3:25:04
  back of their head and they won't say it and you know, it's
• 3:25:07
  there. There's a couple most atheists
• 3:25:10
  respond exactly what you're saying.
• 3:25:13
  I've only seen a couple, a Pious it go even further and they're
• 3:25:17
  fucking blood lust. There's a guy out there, who's
• 3:25:20
  Anna? He's an aisle.
• 3:25:22
  List atheist called one of his name.
• 3:25:27
  Talk to can't believe his real name's Gary Gary a Mendham.
• 3:25:31
  That's his name, the guy says and a lot of atheists actually
• 3:25:35
  agree with him on this. I remember him, he thinks that
• 3:25:39
  babies should be able to be killed all the way up, to two
• 3:25:42
  years old because they're still dependent on their parent.
• 3:25:45
  That's one of their big arguments.
• 3:25:47
  The kid is dependent, still a fucking parasite according to
• 3:25:50
  him that's how they Describe it. It's kind of like the military
• 3:25:54
  does. When you got two snipers getting
• 3:25:56
  ready to take down an enemy, you got to think of it as a bug or a
• 3:26:00
  Target, Not a Human Being because if it's a human then it
• 3:26:03
  must have a family might have kids.
• 3:26:06
  You can't fucking kill a person. It's got to be a bug or Target
• 3:26:10
  or something. That needs to be flagged or
• 3:26:13
  exterminated. That's why they use words like
• 3:26:15
  abortion instead of murder and killing.
• 3:26:17
  Exactly. Right.
• 3:26:19
  Nice. Exactly, exactly.
• 3:26:24
  They change words. They use euphemisms because they
• 3:26:27
  don't want to admit reality right here.
• 3:26:32
  What's going on there? Handsome, even on Christopher
• 3:26:35
  Hitchens when he was alive, he talked about this proof and
• 3:26:39
  signs that light starts at conception, even he nonsense
• 3:26:45
  said, is true. Abortion is wrong.
• 3:26:50
  Right. Yeah, I've also got a video of
• 3:26:53
  them to it's a little off the topic, but he also confessed
• 3:26:57
  with the fine-tuning argument, actually a fine argument he'd
• 3:27:03
  quit. There's you can find video right
• 3:27:05
  now. Of Christopher Hitchens.
• 3:27:06
  Admitting that the fine-tuning argument is the best argument
• 3:27:10
  for God's existence. I could, but it's out there on
• 3:27:13
  YouTube, it will always be out there on YouTube.
• 3:27:19
  One things I liked about Hitchens is whenever he wasn't
• 3:27:23
  in a debate or something like that and he was just chilling
• 3:27:26
  out and really being, you know not pressured to look good in
• 3:27:31
  front of other atheists. The guy was he did make some
• 3:27:33
  intellectually honest responses. Yeah, he may be, you know, he
• 3:27:41
  may be, I guess he has to be, you know, my favorite of the
• 3:27:45
  atheists and I he is someone that as much as he was an enemy
• 3:27:50
  to God, and as much as he likes to stir shit up and be a
• 3:27:56
  contrarian. I his death makes me sad.
• 3:28:01
  I wish there was someone like him so out there because he had
• 3:28:05
  a way with words and he was well-spoken.
• 3:28:06
  And he was a True intellect and it's sad to think that he's
• 3:28:11
  gone. His brother is all preacher.
• 3:28:16
  Yeah. Peter had since he's a pretty,
• 3:28:18
  his brothers intellectual guys. Well, he's pretty awesome as
• 3:28:22
  well but because he's on the side of theology doesn't get as
• 3:28:26
  much love, obviously from non-believers or whatever.
• 3:28:29
  Hitchens really rode on the shoulders of atheists say they
• 3:28:33
  wanted that mouthpiece. They wanted that guy.
• 3:28:36
  You didn't fuck around the That does the slapping.
• 3:28:39
  So they don't give Peters much love, but Peters a fucking great
• 3:28:42
  thinker. Yeah, they have a debate out
• 3:28:46
  there. Anyone listening hasn't seen it.
• 3:28:48
  It's a great debate. Two brothers debating each other
• 3:28:52
  on on God's existence. It's, it's a, it's in.
• 3:28:57
  You're in for a treat. If you go watch it.
• 3:28:59
  Do you have a favorite debate? Brett that you've seen?
• 3:29:03
  Well, I'm like there was a debate a while back with I Think
• 3:29:07
  Hitchens and Linux and then there's another one with William
• 3:29:10
  Lane Craig and that the end of the debate, there was a there
• 3:29:15
  was a typical hitch and stuff Hitchens through and some good
• 3:29:18
  shots, William Lane, Craig turned, some good shots but it
• 3:29:21
  was he in that got me. I love this and I started
• 3:29:24
  noticing a pattern with Hitchens Hitchens.
• 3:29:27
  Whenever he was asking question that kind of led him to be
• 3:29:30
  speechless. He suddenly started having
• 3:29:33
  technical problems as fucking Mike went out.
• 3:29:36
  He needed to It repeated to him and all this kind of stuff and
• 3:29:39
  he he'd fumble around his hands would Shake whenever he realized
• 3:29:43
  he was in a fucking box with somebody and William Lane.
• 3:29:47
  Craig was good at doing that to him.
• 3:29:53
  Yeah, but Craig is just an annihilator on the debate stage.
• 3:29:58
  It's kind of even you know, even atheists if they're being
• 3:30:02
  intellectually honest will admit that he, I mean, he has won
• 3:30:06
  almost every single debate that he's done.
• 3:30:08
  I know, there was one that he had with Sean Carroll, the
• 3:30:12
  physicists a few years back that a lot of people, there seems to
• 3:30:17
  be a consensus that Craig. If he didn't lose, he only did
• 3:30:22
  not win. And that wouldn't, I can see
• 3:30:26
  people making that argument. But I've seen, you know, dozens
• 3:30:29
  and dozens of his debates. And he is, he is just a master
• 3:30:36
  at the actual craft of debating. Anyone listening.
• 3:30:40
  That hasn't seen William Lane. Craig debate, you're in for a
• 3:30:43
  treat. If you go watch one, and the
• 3:30:46
  ones with Hitchens were really good because Hitchens Hitchens
• 3:30:48
  is smart. But when it comes to an Debate.
• 3:30:52
  It seems like he has trouble staying on topic.
• 3:30:57
  He, I've noticed that he would make all sorts of statements,
• 3:31:02
  you know, about God, not existing that.
• 3:31:04
  Don't necessarily relate to the debate topic at hand.
• 3:31:11
  And and Craig is not like that at all.
• 3:31:12
  I think Craig definitely one their debate.
• 3:31:14
  I think Craig also definitely want to debate with Sam Harris.
• 3:31:17
  I would say, Sam Harris is better at staying on topic but
• 3:31:21
  But it's funny because you know as far as I know about any of
• 3:31:27
  these guys they don't really it's not like they grew up in
• 3:31:31
  the church or are super familiar with the Bible.
• 3:31:35
  They just use Google and they Google.
• 3:31:37
  You know what are the worst things the Bible says, and they
• 3:31:42
  they take it out of context. It's people that actually grew
• 3:31:46
  up in the church and in a familiar with these things, I
• 3:31:48
  don't know if they always make the same bad argument.
• 3:31:51
  Is that a lot of the new atheists made play?
• 3:31:55
  You want to hold on a second water?
• 3:31:58
  You want to see something? That'll blow your mind that
• 3:32:00
  Richard Dawkins said and for some reason he what?
• 3:32:03
  I don't know if he was concentrating completely on what
• 3:32:06
  he said but you got to hear this who you ready?
• 3:32:09
  Let's go for it. Listen to this genes are
• 3:32:14
  information, they're coded information, it's even looks
• 3:32:17
  like computer information. I mean, a chromosome is a great
• 3:32:21
  long. Computer tape.
• 3:32:23
  It's linear runs. 11 dimensional digital code.
• 3:32:29
  It's not binary, it's quaternary.
• 3:32:30
  But apart from that it's just the same as as computer tape.
• 3:32:34
  It's read in sequence. It's copied and pasted from one
• 3:32:40
  part of the organism to another in just the same way as as a
• 3:32:45
  computer programmer would copy and paste.
• 3:32:49
  So biology has turned into To computer science copied and
• 3:32:53
  pasted from one part of the organism to another in just the
• 3:32:57
  same way. As as a computer programmer
• 3:33:01
  would copy and paste as a computer programmer would copy
• 3:33:07
  and paste. Now if you're wondering why it
• 3:33:11
  looped three times like that is because 80s, usually, don't get
• 3:33:15
  it on the first try and just in case get them with them a second
• 3:33:19
  and it just still any doubt in their fucking mind.
• 3:33:22
  I give them the third and then they don't have nothing to say
• 3:33:25
  about that. What do you think about that?
• 3:33:29
  Brett. You're almost, you know, you put
• 3:33:33
  almost putting me in a position where I have to defend Richard,
• 3:33:37
  Dawkins, which I don't want to do, but I do, Agree that we have
• 3:33:40
  a designer so I he definitely could have chosen his words
• 3:33:46
  better. I don't know if he I mean I
• 3:33:49
  guess I'm a little bit confused by you saying that he is
• 3:33:52
  admitting that evolution is not true or are you just saying that
• 3:33:55
  he's admitting that we have you know a designer who designed us
• 3:34:00
  maybe through Evolution. Well if you seen the text at the
• 3:34:03
  bottom of the video to me said mitting an intelligent designer,
• 3:34:08
  he pretty much would be in the same.
• 3:34:09
  Position. As you as a Catholic, he saying
• 3:34:12
  Evolution happened but there's some kind of programmer.
• 3:34:16
  There's someone who edited the genes in such a way that it was
• 3:34:19
  like a computer program and I've heard countless scientists use
• 3:34:23
  digital. They describe the body being
• 3:34:27
  like a biological machine. I got one guys.
• 3:34:30
  If I let the show go on any longer, I will not be able to
• 3:34:33
  put it up in the radio because it only allows me to go up to
• 3:34:36
  like three hours and 45 minutes. It's and four hours on it.
• 3:34:41
  So I'm going to end up closing out of this.
• 3:34:43
  I'm still going to do a show on Friday, 7 p.m. like usual.
• 3:34:47
  Okay. Are you guys one more thing
• 3:34:49
  before you go? Well, that sounds good because I
• 3:34:51
  got to do something. Okay.
• 3:34:53
  So why actually, I'm going to play two things and they're both
• 3:34:56
  very short. Here's an atheist.
• 3:35:00
  This is an atheist and what his view, our morality is and then
• 3:35:04
  we're going to do an evolution one and then that'll be it.
• 3:35:06
  Here we go. I mean, if you don't, if a
• 3:35:11
  person doesn't think that there there is a God to be accountable
• 3:35:14
  to. Then then what's the point of
• 3:35:18
  trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable
• 3:35:23
  ranges? That's how I thought.
• 3:35:25
  Anyway, because I always I always believed the lie that
• 3:35:32
  evolution is truth. The theory of evolution is true
• 3:35:35
  that we all just came from Lime and when we when we died you
• 3:35:41
  know that was it it was nothing. So it's the whole Theory
• 3:35:45
  cheapens life and started reading books about how the show
• 3:35:51
  how evolution is just a couple Eli.
• 3:35:53
  There's there's no there's no basis in science to AB hold it
• 3:35:58
  and I've come to since come to believe that the Lord Jesus
• 3:36:03
  Christ. Is the true creator of the
• 3:36:06
  heavens and the Earth. That my friends is Jeffrey
• 3:36:11
  Dahmer. The one of the most roughest
• 3:36:14
  serial killers that ever existed.
• 3:36:17
  And you heard what he said, why have any moral parameters that?
• 3:36:20
  There's no God. It's one of the reasons why
• 3:36:23
  Christians constantly ask the objective moral questions.
• 3:36:28
  If you're curious and here goes the evolution one and then I got
• 3:36:31
  to close out. I'll give you guys an
• 3:36:33
  opportunity to express your opinion about it though.
• 3:36:36
  Are you ready water? Yeah, go for it.
• 3:36:39
  Fish human beings are still fish.
• 3:36:42
  You know, things of fish. Why?
• 3:36:43
  Yes, of course they are. How long did that?
• 3:36:45
  Take a couple billions of years? Millions, millions, how is that
• 3:36:49
  observable? It's not new believe.
• 3:36:51
  We all came from sponges day. If you believe this textbook is
• 3:36:54
  right. Yes.
• 3:36:55
  But my 200 million greats grandfather was a fish.
• 3:36:59
  And by the way, the same fish was your 200 million greats
• 3:37:02
  grandfather, but all African Apes were Apes with a shave.
• 3:37:06
  Yeah, exactly. Yes, so if I'm out in the woods
• 3:37:11
  full on Wolf, like, if I'm with close friends, what's the
• 3:37:14
  problem? Yeah.
• 3:37:15
  And what are you doing when you have time?
• 3:37:16
  So we're running around, we do kind of play it as wolves, like
• 3:37:20
  on all fours at times. Yes, sometimes we're to way get
• 3:37:23
  making wolf vocal stuffs, that here's something I might do when
• 3:37:28
  I'm out there is fall is a howl, sure.
• 3:37:40
  Oh gosh, what did you guys think of that?
• 3:37:43
  Oh my gosh, we furry at the end is a little ridiculous.
• 3:37:51
  Bright bubbly, the persons, not claiming that they're that
• 3:37:55
  they're putting on a furry out that they claim they are
• 3:37:58
  actually the wolf that was like referred to as an other.
• 3:38:02
  Can I've been on ya people? They think that they are
• 3:38:05
  actually animals but technically almost atheist think they are
• 3:38:09
  animals and if you're a Catholic evolutionists and you got to
• 3:38:13
  believe that you're some form of animal too.
• 3:38:18
  Yeah, I you know I gotta say and I know we will I've enjoyed
• 3:38:25
  talking to you so I know we'll get we'll get to talk about this
• 3:38:28
  in the future, but I do believe I do in a technical sense.
• 3:38:32
  Believe that humans are animals but we are the one animal on
• 3:38:35
  this Earth that has a personal relationship with God and that
• 3:38:39
  is that's what the Catholic Church teaches and that's what I
• 3:38:42
  believe. And I want to I want to say one
• 3:38:44
  more thing. Anyone, listening?
• 3:38:47
  This Sunday. If you've never been to mass,
• 3:38:50
  it's a new year. And you if you think you have it
• 3:38:55
  in you, maybe shoot an email to the parish priest and say, hey,
• 3:38:59
  I've never been to a Catholic Church before and I'm curious to
• 3:39:02
  learn what is Catholicism all about.
• 3:39:05
  Can I stop by for Mass to Sunday?
• 3:39:06
  Do you think I could come a little bit early and meet the
• 3:39:09
  priest and talk? And I think anyone out there
• 3:39:13
  that's listening if you've never been 20:23 is a great year.
• 3:39:17
  Or to at least learn more about the other denominations of
• 3:39:20
  Christianity that are out there. Even if you don't end up
• 3:39:23
  converting, I've been to a Catholic Mass.
• 3:39:31
  It's a beautiful ritual. I love Mass.
• 3:39:33
  I adore Mass, make sure, Holly know me, you know, my email,
• 3:39:38
  right. If you don't, it's in the
• 3:39:39
  description. That way I can keep you up to
• 3:39:42
  date on what's going on with Kent hovind about having a
• 3:39:45
  debate with you and evolution. All right, yeah, that sounds
• 3:39:48
  good. But thank you for doing that.
• 3:39:52
  All right, here we go. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
• 3:39:55
  name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
• 3:39:57
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