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The SHOCKING Truth Behind God's CHOSEN People | Charles Mortlock · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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Speaker 2: much for getting in contact. You sent me an email.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the Faulklands, which, obviously, as you know as
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Speaker 2: a young previous to my rural marine's career growing up
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Speaker 2: in the eighties, well seventies but then eighties is both
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Speaker 2: of passion and in emotion of mine, I suppose you
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Speaker 2: could say. But also I just want to come straight
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Speaker 2: in here and say you mentioned Noah Hide. Yes, I'm
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Speaker 2: just starting to get my head around this, I believe.
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Speaker 2: Is it a philosophy or a way of living one's
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Speaker 2: life based on the Noah Hide laws? Or am I
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Speaker 2: completely like a million miles away?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's no Hidism is for people that are not
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Speaker 3: Jews and don't want to be not associated, you know,
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Speaker 3: by family or religion with Judaism, but they agree with
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Speaker 3: the principles of the religion of Judaism. So we have
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Speaker 3: the seven Noah Hide commandments. So basically it's for ordinary
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Speaker 3: people that believe the Hebrew Torah but are for one
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Speaker 3: reason or another, don't feel the need to convert.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just looking at I've got them up on
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Speaker 2: the screen. Do not worship idols? Can I just interpret
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Speaker 2: this from a spiritual perspective, so people know how I
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Speaker 2: would read this, Charles, and then we'll come on and
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Speaker 2: see if you know, if you if you interpret this
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Speaker 2: differently or whatever. So yeah, number one, do not worship
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Speaker 2: idols yet. That's because God is with insider us. So
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Speaker 2: it just shows a gross misunderstanding of divinity, which is
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Speaker 2: we are a manifestation of the Divine. Do not curse
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Speaker 2: God yet, because that's because you're chucking outside of you.
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Speaker 2: If you're referring to God as somebody else, you not
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Speaker 2: understanding oneness, that we are all one system and the
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Speaker 2: beauty of God is it the Divine is inside us.
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Speaker 2: Do not murder yep, because if you murder someone else,
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Speaker 2: who are you murder and you're murdering God? That's not on.
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Speaker 2: Do not commit adultery or sexual immorality again, well, I
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Speaker 2: mean that kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it.
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 2: Do not steal? Yes, because you're all you're doing is
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Speaker 2: stealing from yourself an under cosmic karmic law whatever we're
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Speaker 2: going to call it the record that will you have
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Speaker 2: to pay for that later down the line. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's very easy to walk in the tesco and nick
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Speaker 2: something off the shelf. Let's be honest, let's probably going
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Speaker 2: to get away with it. But but we Charles, well
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Speaker 2: come on, you can contribute and say, but you know,
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Speaker 2: all we're doing is we're stealing from another human being
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Speaker 2: and we pay for that karmically. Do not eat the
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Speaker 2: flesh of a living animal. I can't wait to explore
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Speaker 2: this with you, Charles, because that's what I haven't been
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Speaker 2: doing for the last six months. And I was never
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Speaker 2: that big on it before, to be honest, but now
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Speaker 2: I'm starting to think, hang on, why these divine creatures
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Speaker 2: getting tortured to death in their thousands upon well millions,
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Speaker 2: millions upon millions and not a single person goes, do
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Speaker 2: you know what I think? That could be a bit wrong?
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Speaker 2: Or shouldn't I appreciate the chicken in my sandwich before
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Speaker 2: I eat it rather than just take a bite and
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Speaker 2: then throw the rest of it away. So not a lecture, folks.
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Speaker 2: These are just kind of adult conversations, you know, and
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Speaker 2: establish courts of justice, I guess, courts of justice which
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Speaker 2: should be based on divine law, shouldn't they the logos,
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Speaker 2: the word of God? You know the way this whole
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Speaker 2: thing works. So was I kind of was my interpretation
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Speaker 2: somewhere in line with yours? Charles?
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Speaker 3: Oh that's brilliant, Chris. It's amazing that you've come to me.
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Speaker 3: What always surprises me when certain people interpret or read
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Speaker 3: then hide laws or the divine laws is the spiritual
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Speaker 3: ones get it straight away? Really, I couldn't. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I can amplify some of those ideas in a random
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Speaker 3: way for interest, but that's it. Yeah, Yeah, you've got it?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 3: And could I add actually that in our thinking we
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Speaker 3: have a rabbi. But within Judaism generally this move there
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Speaker 3: are millions of people that are coming to an awareness
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Speaker 3: of the no hide laws through all kinds of means
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Speaker 3: and roots. We see this as the coming global or
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Speaker 3: universal set of morals, which is part of the regeneration
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Speaker 3: of what we call the tacon, the restoration of the world.
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Speaker 2: Got you and the teacon? Is that a Jewish thing
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Speaker 2: or is that part of being a Noah hide?
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Speaker 3: It's a Hebrew It is part of Judaism, and it's
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Speaker 3: a word used for the rectification of the creation and
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Speaker 3: since its corruption in Genesis or beryches. So not only
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Speaker 3: does the world have to be physically the world that
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Speaker 3: we see has to be rectified, but also, of course
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Speaker 3: the people that live within it, and reincarnation is also
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Speaker 3: part of this. Because we are eternal spiritual or we
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Speaker 3: are spiritual entities should I say spiritual entities within the
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Speaker 3: physical body obviously, so the process of rectrification applies to
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Speaker 3: the souls which inhabit the bodies. I won't say spirit
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Speaker 3: because that's a different thing, and that's what animals have,
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Speaker 3: the nephesh or the spirit of life in them, the
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Speaker 3: same as we do. But we have the soul which
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Speaker 3: is constantly regenerating in order the end goal is in
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Speaker 3: order for those rectified souls to inhabit the rectified world.
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Speaker 2: Right Okay, gosh, I think you and I both know
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Speaker 2: this is a subject we could probably unpick for hours,
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Speaker 2: isn't it. But oh yeah, and Charles, I'm ignorant of it.
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Speaker 2: I tell you from my perspective, right old testament Torah
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Speaker 2: is what the first five books?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Tora is the law the first five books,
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Speaker 3: You're right, and then the law and the prophets is
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Speaker 3: known as to natch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get it, because I use that as
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Speaker 2: a manuscript for life. Not I'm not reading it every
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Speaker 2: day or I don't need to. I as an enlightened person,
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Speaker 2: I can read it and understand the allegory in it.
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Speaker 2: So a flood forty days and nights is a period
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Speaker 2: of you know, you have your dark night of the soul,
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Speaker 2: as it were Jesus in the word wilderness. Forty days
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Speaker 2: at forty is symbolic of, you know, a period of
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Speaker 2: like and in with with with yourself, after which you
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Speaker 2: meet water. Flood itself is elevated consciousness and you have
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Speaker 2: the uh. So it's symbolizing when you overcome the sins
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Speaker 2: of the flesh, the material self, doing stuff based on
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Speaker 2: your emotions and your five senses rather than tuning into
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Speaker 2: the divine, which is what you are primarily. Once you
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Speaker 2: learn to do that, you have this fresh start, you're
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Speaker 2: you're cleansed your what people call born again, only the
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Speaker 2: born agains in a Christianity kind of missing out on
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Speaker 2: what I just sort of said, childs if that makes sense?
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Speaker 2: What what where this becomes problematic is you've got Moses there.
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Speaker 2: Moses is the pineal gland for the Old Testament. Jesus
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Speaker 2: is the pineal gland for the New. He's leading the
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Speaker 2: Israelites out of Egypt. Egypt is bondage to material desires, possessions.
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Speaker 2: He's taken these enlightened ones. Isra l isis ra l
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Speaker 2: l him. So people that have got their pineal and peturitary,
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Speaker 2: the electromagnetism functioning, and they're firing, and they're on the
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Speaker 2: path to enlightenment, as opposed to the gentiles, which are unenlightened.
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Speaker 2: Thought not nothing to do with people here, folks, from
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Speaker 2: my interpretation, or should I say, from a gnostic a
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Speaker 2: gnostic interpretation, and as such, they cross water. Red is
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Speaker 2: overcoming your ready's emotion. Water is elevated consciousness. So when
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Speaker 2: you learn to get over your emotion, you cross water.
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Speaker 2: You elevate your consciousness. Your brain produces the serotonin and DMT,
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Speaker 2: referred to inscripture as milk and honey because ones are
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Speaker 2: milk substance, ones are honey, and as such, you enter
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Speaker 2: paradise on earth, not a heaven in another realm after life. No,
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Speaker 2: it's just an instruction manual how to get your shit
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Speaker 2: together and get the best out of this life and
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Speaker 2: realize that when this one dies and withers away and goes,
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Speaker 2: you just go back to the eternal energy and you
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Speaker 2: come back again.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: So that said, Charles, It becomes problematic when you get
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Speaker 2: a group of people that literally interpret it as we
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Speaker 2: are God's chosen ones. It's like, no, he chooses the Israelites,
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Speaker 2: which is a separate thing from being Jewish. Israelite is
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Speaker 2: just enlightened thought that, and you enter a land of
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Speaker 2: milk and honey that's not in the Middle East. That's
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Speaker 2: literally in your temple, hence why they call it temples.
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Speaker 2: So I'm chucking this out there, Charles, because these Noah
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Speaker 2: Hide laws, don't they look a great way to live?
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Speaker 2: I think they from my fifty six years kind of
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Speaker 2: getting on board with all this the other stuff. I
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Speaker 2: think it's quite sad the way that Scripture the allegory
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Speaker 2: has been taken literally and we're now witnessing a genocide
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Speaker 2: in our times because of it, and because nobody understands
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Speaker 2: this stuff, they're just letting it go ahead and going, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's their land, isn't it. And it's like, WHOA, So
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Speaker 2: over to you. What's your contribution?
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Speaker 3: Charles Well are touching on some absolutely fascinating things. I mean,
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Speaker 3: we could talk for an hour about one of those,
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Speaker 3: so I'll have to be a little bit brief and
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Speaker 3: speak from probably the most recent things, because that's what
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Speaker 3: I can remember. Now. What is the definition of Israel
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Speaker 3: is the sons of Jacob, and the definition of the
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Speaker 3: Holy Land is what was given to the sons of Israel.
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Speaker 3: So as regarding the present state of Israel, my view
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Speaker 3: is that within those elements which are sympathetic to the
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Speaker 3: state of Israel and Judaism, and that could include these
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Speaker 3: evangelical Christians, I would say that I think that the
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Speaker 3: majority are laboring under a massive delusion and error. And
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Speaker 3: I'll say and the reason I say that is because,
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Speaker 3: in my view, the present state of Israel has been
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Speaker 3: a US proxy since the late forties early fifties, and
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Speaker 3: is run by atheists and people that hate the Torah.
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Speaker 3: So there is no way that the present of the
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Speaker 3: state of Israel as constituted reflects anything to do with
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Speaker 3: the Tiko apart from approximate geographical boundaries and a minority
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Speaker 3: of religious people in it. Well, that's not to say so,
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Speaker 3: And I think that the world's going to realize that
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Speaker 3: at some point in a not too distant future, and
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Speaker 3: in the near to mid term. I think that that
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Speaker 3: is the present state of Israel as it's constituted, will
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Speaker 3: probably if history is going any guide, to go the
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Speaker 3: same way as all US proxies Netnya, who does not
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Speaker 3: work for the Israeli people and neither And I'm not
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Speaker 3: an expert, this is a superficial observation, but it's quite
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Speaker 3: obvious to me that Netnya, who doesn't work for the
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Speaker 3: Israeli people or Israel, he's worth taking his orders from Washington.
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Speaker 3: And he's been telling the same lie for forty years
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Speaker 3: about Iran, saying next week and next month they're going
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Speaker 3: to get a nuclear weapon. After forty years, you'd think
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Speaker 3: people are twig that this guy's a liar and a
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Speaker 3: US proxy, but no, because it's Israel, and because it's
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Speaker 3: got some Jews in it, they think that this is
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Speaker 3: going to know. I don't think so. And every US
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Speaker 3: proxy has been destroyed in my lifetime, and that will
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Speaker 3: be the present state of Israel. But I'm not depressed
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Speaker 3: about that, because the decks have to be cleared for
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Speaker 3: the real Israel and for what we call Iphraem, which
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Speaker 3: is the exile ten tribes which were removed from Israel
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Speaker 3: in the Assyrian invasion seven hundred BC, and seventy years
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Speaker 3: later the rest were taken out, but there's always been
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Speaker 3: due in Israel since Moche's time. But now these exiles
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Speaker 3: are what we call Ephraem, are dispersed around the globe substantial.
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Speaker 3: I think you alluded to a kind of spiritual DNA earlier,
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Speaker 3: which is that's how I see it. There are groups
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Speaker 3: of people in the West, and in the West, in India,
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Speaker 3: in China, in South America. There are hundreds of millions
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Speaker 3: of people in these areas which carry the spiritual DNA
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Speaker 3: of Ephrae in and they will form part of this
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Speaker 3: coming new consciousness. You could be one of them, Chris,
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Speaker 3: anybody could. It's it's not and you're referring to how
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Speaker 3: the Creator or we call him hash Amba the Creator.
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Speaker 3: I usually prefer to say creator. That's just what I'm
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Speaker 3: more comfortable with. He recognizes his own and he teaches
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Speaker 3: them and brings them on, but by a very huge
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Speaker 3: variety of memes. That's the and we you can see
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Speaker 3: the Creator working in this day, but it's very he
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Speaker 3: is very buried and hidden. You can see it through
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Speaker 3: by by applying the laws of the tour to what
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Speaker 3: you see. And that's a way of interpreting it to Uh,
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Speaker 3: now your can I call it an allegree about Genesis
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Speaker 3: and the flight from you know, Israel, sorry, Egypt, Egypt? Now, Uh,
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Speaker 3: that's an interesting allegory and useful, I'm sure, But we do.
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Speaker 3: I take it literally, absolutely everything in it literally, and
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Speaker 3: I think we It's not that we have to, but
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Speaker 3: I don't see any reason not to. And there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of you know, there's a lot of supporting there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of physical and supporting evidence. But the Creator
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Speaker 3: wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Be sorry, to just come in there. But of course
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Speaker 2: there's always going to be supporting evidence because it's the
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Speaker 2: same dark bar that provide you know, all this interpretation
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Speaker 2: What kind of confuses me is why would why would
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Speaker 2: someone take like the best book in the world and
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Speaker 2: totally ignore utterly fascinating allegorical message within it that helps
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Speaker 2: us all to become the best version, the divine version
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Speaker 2: of us?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: What do people get out of like, well, let's just
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Speaker 2: not let's let's not look at that at all. Un
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Speaker 2: let's have it as an actual, you know, physical construct.
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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose the answer to that is that the
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Speaker 3: it's a question of definitions, and you know, the definitions
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Speaker 3: have to apply who is the creator? And those those
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Speaker 3: definitions and practically examples give insights into the nature and
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Speaker 3: workings of the creator and the creation. To look at
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Speaker 3: it another way, if the what is the purpose of
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Speaker 3: the creation and what is the purpose of our lives? Well,
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Speaker 3: the purpose of the creation in our teaching is the
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Speaker 3: Creator creates in order to reveal his attributes in an
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Speaker 3: otherwise spiritual universe. So he wanted a physical presence to
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Speaker 3: reveal his attributes throughout history and throughout the creation. For instance,
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Speaker 3: if you or I were to make something I don't know,
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Speaker 3: a bout or a car or something, the end result
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Speaker 3: would reflect our personalities and our attributes. The skills that
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Speaker 3: we used to put it together would tell people a
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Speaker 3: lot about us or the kind of model that we design,
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Speaker 3: if that makes any sense. So we don't ignore those
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Speaker 3: allegorical ideas. But for the previously mentioned reasons, and just
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Speaker 3: for the excitement of an authenticity of the story, I
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Speaker 3: see no reason to see that it's not, you know,
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Speaker 3: a correct narrative. But I don't disco how the allegorical
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Speaker 3: side of it at all. It's quite you know, it's
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Speaker 3: interesting what you're saying. I'm just not there yet. We're
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Speaker 3: still boom.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was getting at. It's an enlightenment. Enlightenment
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Speaker 2: is people call it a journey, Charles, but it's probably
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Speaker 2: that throws people off. It's not. What it is is
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Speaker 2: peeling off the layers of programming. And the quickest way
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Speaker 2: to do that is realize, when you're taking any kind
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Speaker 2: of human instruction, it's programming, and you've got to cut
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Speaker 2: through that and go to source, which is your meditation,
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Speaker 2: or you're fasting. And I'm sorry, I'm not trying to
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Speaker 2: pick apart your narrative, Charles. I'm just saying we find
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Speaker 2: it so sad that the most wonderful book on the planet,
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Speaker 2: the scripture, you know, whether that's Buddhism, Old Testament, new
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Speaker 2: you know, bar Gar good Beat. I could never say
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Speaker 2: that name, but you know, you know the one.
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Speaker 3: I mean.
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Speaker 2: It's all telling you the same message, a message of
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Speaker 2: salvation that comes from within to live on heaven on
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Speaker 2: earth now. And I find it bizarre that people want
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Speaker 2: to believe. And I'm not telling you you shouldn't you
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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't affect my life in any way whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Other people's choices, but I do think there'll be people
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Speaker 2: listening now that are a little bit desperate in their
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Speaker 2: life that things are not quite going. They're probably getting
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Speaker 2: over bereavement or this or that that they need to
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Speaker 2: hear this side of it. We've heard, We've heard the
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Speaker 2: taking it literally, the Virgin's getting pregnant, and the you know,
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Speaker 2: an amazing chap who I love dearly. But you know
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Speaker 2: a lot of people believe he walks on water and
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Speaker 2: shares his back lunch with five thousand people, which is
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Speaker 2: just really not helpful.
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Speaker 3: No could I say that, you know, because I didn't
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Speaker 3: want to take a pop a Christianity or anything. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's other people's religion. And I've got some lovely Christian
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Speaker 3: friends that I love a lot, and I actually volunteer
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Speaker 3: at Christian research. It's a it's a scientific research, so
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't like taking a pop at Christianity.
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Speaker 3: But the New Testament is in the complete Roman fabrication
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Speaker 3: and it has no connection whatsoever with the Torah. Just
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Speaker 3: had to say it. So nobody's going to heaven and
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Speaker 3: nobody's going to hell. There's no existence, there's no conscious
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Speaker 3: state outside the earth. We live, we learn, and we die.
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Speaker 3: We know nothing, and then we come back again as
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Speaker 3: a baby. This happens a number of times. Sometimes it's
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Speaker 3: only five years before the reincarnation, or months, can be
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Speaker 3: hundreds of years. But there's no you know, this Christian
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Speaker 3: theology is complete fantasy. It's a Roman fabrication tended to
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Speaker 3: bring together a declining empire in the fourth century.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes and no, yes, you're right, as in taking
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Speaker 2: it in his literal sense, was designed to help the
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Speaker 2: Roman empire that went out there into the world, did
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Speaker 2: their ravaging and their pillaging, and then when they got
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Speaker 2: over extended financially, then they had to start withdrawing because
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Speaker 2: the quote unquote savages started to attack them up in
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Speaker 2: the North of England, for example, they pulled back, but
23:32
Speaker 2: what did they leave behind. They left behind the church,
23:36
Speaker 2: the actual physical interpretation of it, the women getting pregnant
23:42
Speaker 2: at of wedlock, the guys walking on and all of
23:45
Speaker 2: this stuff that. Yeh, it's fine. If people want to
23:48
Speaker 2: believe that, absolutely go for it. You know, dig out.
23:52
Speaker 2: They eat yourself full. Not a proper not a proplem.
23:55
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the actual story is different, and
23:59
Speaker 2: the story that the Catholicism has left in place is
24:05
Speaker 2: one of control. Along with your secret societies, along with
24:10
Speaker 2: your fractional reserve banking system or money money debt, slavery,
24:15
Speaker 2: all of this was left, along with capitalism and materialism.
24:19
Speaker 2: These systems were left in place. So it would appear
24:23
Speaker 2: that the British have you know, withdrawn from South Africa,
24:27
Speaker 2: but no, the ancient banking bloodline, they're still in there,
24:31
Speaker 2: controlling it in exactly the way I just described. And
24:35
Speaker 2: it's what they've done is they've got this kind of
24:38
Speaker 2: amalgamation of stories in the New Testament and it's actually
24:44
Speaker 2: the pretty much exact same stories as in Na Torah.
24:49
Speaker 2: Just slightly tweet Jesus as the New guy. Moses was
24:52
Speaker 2: the old guy and the one message. If you take
24:57
Speaker 2: one thing from it, I would suggest people can do
25:00
Speaker 2: what they like. Is the only way to the Father
25:04
Speaker 2: is through me. And if everyone repeats that themselves, now,
25:09
Speaker 2: it's not saying through Jesus or through is through me
25:13
Speaker 2: because the answers are within. So when Jesus talks about
25:20
Speaker 2: you know, go into the upper room, he's talking about
25:25
Speaker 2: leaving your bee steal animal material self down there. Bring
25:29
Speaker 2: your energy into your upper self, your highest chakras, as
25:32
Speaker 2: they say in the varias. As such, you're focusing that
25:36
Speaker 2: energy on your peneal and petuitary gland, which then acts
25:41
Speaker 2: as a tourist field and you get access to the
25:44
Speaker 2: higher frequencies going on in life, and your brain over
25:49
Speaker 2: goes through a physical change and you access apart of
25:53
Speaker 2: your brain that ordinarily, if you just live in the
25:57
Speaker 2: matrix following scripture like a history book, you're never going
26:01
Speaker 2: to access unless you're a particularly fortunate person. And in
26:05
Speaker 2: that brain is your enlightened consciousness. This is why Jesus says,
26:11
Speaker 2: cast your net to the right side of the boat. Okay,
26:15
Speaker 2: go east of eden right hemisphere of the brain, and
26:19
Speaker 2: you will catch one hundred and fifty three fish. Why
26:23
Speaker 2: because the book's written in a code, and you've got
26:26
Speaker 2: to understand. Until you understand that the number nine one
26:29
Speaker 2: add five is six, AD three is nine, he's talking
26:33
Speaker 2: about consciousness. Because consciousness is the number. Nine is the
26:38
Speaker 2: number of the universe, three six nine. You can create
26:42
Speaker 2: a whole model of how all of this works, as
26:46
Speaker 2: Tesla himself said, and it gets fascinating because number of
26:50
Speaker 2: nine is enlightened consciousness. It's also mark of the beast,
26:54
Speaker 2: unenlightened consciousness, which we represent as six sixty six six
26:59
Speaker 2: AD six is twelve twelve and six is eighteen at
27:02
Speaker 2: the one and eight nine that's yeah as a but
27:05
Speaker 2: above that's your God consciousness. So below that's your material world.
27:12
Speaker 2: And we are, like you said, we are the embodiment
27:15
Speaker 2: of God's experience. And all He's trying to do with
27:19
Speaker 2: this experiment is say, will there ever come a day
27:23
Speaker 2: when these silly human beings actually realize they are a
27:28
Speaker 2: manifestation of Me and therefore they are all the same,
27:33
Speaker 2: and they should stop the war, stop the suffering, stop
27:37
Speaker 2: trying to make off other people, and start to come
27:41
Speaker 2: together as one and be the divine manifestation that I
27:46
Speaker 2: set in play. And this is why civilizations come and go, Charles,
27:51
Speaker 2: because they fail fail miserably. So sorry to chuck that in,
27:55
Speaker 2: but I think we need to avoid being Dogmatt can
28:00
Speaker 2: saying this is this, and this is this because this
28:02
Speaker 2: is what I read or what I learned, and start
28:05
Speaker 2: speaking from the heart. And but you know, we we
28:10
Speaker 2: can only learn by having these conversations, can't we.
28:12
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, And the thing is that it's the genius
28:16
Speaker 3: of the Creator that he finds so many different paths
28:23
Speaker 3: for every individual to you know, progress. I mean, there's
28:27
Speaker 3: never ever been in the history of the world anybody
28:31
Speaker 3: like Yuchus or anybody like me. Thank god, There's never
28:34
Speaker 3: anybody that looked or anything like was there, you know,
28:38
Speaker 3: I mean you could so so every I mean, for me,
28:41
Speaker 3: for instance, I am on the autistic spectrum, and we
28:46
Speaker 3: need autistics love facts now if I would, and it
28:53
Speaker 3: is all these things are a spiritual journey, and they
28:57
Speaker 3: sometimes often they are very painful at times. Making progress,
29:03
Speaker 3: as you say, to be deprogrammed is a monumental enterprise,
29:08
Speaker 3: especially if it happens when somebody is older. And I'm
29:11
Speaker 3: talking about truly reprogrammed not you know, deathbed conversions or
29:17
Speaker 3: this kind of nonsense. It doesn't even touch scratch of surface.
29:20
Speaker 3: It takes years. And Hasham is a rewarder of them
29:26
Speaker 3: that diligently seek him, and he will find a way
29:29
Speaker 3: for everybody. And he is no respector of persons. So
29:32
Speaker 3: he doesn't care about religion, doesn't care about what club
29:36
Speaker 3: you're in. Is what you're doing. And a big part
29:40
Speaker 3: of well, what we see in the world is the
29:47
Speaker 3: same as the economy that we see in the world.
29:50
Speaker 3: It's the same as heavenly economy, as were the spiritual economy.
29:54
Speaker 3: And one of the errors of throughout history is especially
30:01
Speaker 3: in our civilization, is we've allowed Greek thinking, Greek philosophy
30:08
Speaker 3: to separate material from the spiritual, and what Gnrheidism in
30:13
Speaker 3: Judaism and possibly other religions, I'm not very expert on
30:17
Speaker 3: them attempts to do is to reconnect the spiritual with
30:21
Speaker 3: the physical and remove that barrier. Because everything in the
30:26
Speaker 3: Torah is everything physical is also spiritual. Every single thing
30:32
Speaker 3: we do and everything we think is recorded and for
30:38
Speaker 3: the purposes of our regeneration and improvement. But I should say,
30:44
Speaker 3: you see for me for autistics, for instance, or for
30:47
Speaker 3: a lot of people, it's facts to come first. And
30:50
Speaker 3: if I thought that the Torah was wrong in any regards,
30:56
Speaker 3: and I include the Great Flood as a literal narrative,
31:00
Speaker 3: if I thought that wasn't true, I wouldn't have a
31:03
Speaker 3: spiritual journey at all. So at the foundation of it
31:08
Speaker 3: is science, the natural sciences, the observation of the earth,
31:12
Speaker 3: and believing in you know, it's like the genetic code.
31:15
Speaker 3: And I do lectures on this, not very often because
31:17
Speaker 3: I can't get people interested, but I do lectures on
31:20
Speaker 3: genetics for ordinary people, and I demonstrate the complexity and
31:26
Speaker 3: the fact that it's a code and the language and
31:28
Speaker 3: these things don't come about by accident. And we've got
31:31
Speaker 3: ourselves into a dead end philosophically where people think that
31:36
Speaker 3: they came from mud and they evolve from nothing and
31:40
Speaker 3: by accident, and that's it. And that's the biggest matrix
31:44
Speaker 3: if for me breaking out of that it took a
31:49
Speaker 3: long time to years and a lot of work, but
31:54
Speaker 3: it's the biggest progress, the biggest change that I ever
31:58
Speaker 3: made in terms of how you think and how you
32:00
Speaker 3: view the world and in reconnecting the physical with the spiritual.
32:05
Speaker 3: Because I recognize that they are connected. And later on
32:08
Speaker 3: I got into no high diation and listening to the
32:12
Speaker 3: rabbis and so forth.
32:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can pick some of these things apart Chiles.
32:17
Speaker 2: So first of all, the autism thing, like, I totally
32:20
Speaker 2: get it. It's it's almost another form of when I
32:24
Speaker 2: talk about or when people talk about being left brain.
32:27
Speaker 2: Remember you've got to go east of Eden to get
32:30
Speaker 2: and you talk science. This is quantum physics. Now, okay,
32:35
Speaker 2: normal physics is what you can see under a microscope,
32:38
Speaker 2: YadA YadA yadda, right, observable matter. The quantum is understanding
32:44
Speaker 2: this stuff that we can't see, and yet it's still there.
32:47
Speaker 2: The same as you know, this guy's listening to something
32:50
Speaker 2: on the radio and you're like, hang on, I can't
32:52
Speaker 2: can't find this is not on my radio. And he's like,
32:55
Speaker 2: you've got a tune. You've got to tune it in. Ah.
33:00
Speaker 2: The gospel, the scripture, that's the instructions how you tune
33:05
Speaker 2: it in. But it's in code, Charles, because because it's
33:09
Speaker 2: not for everybody. Right, if the if the money lenders
33:14
Speaker 2: or the money movers, and if they get held of this,
33:18
Speaker 2: they're going to turn it against the people.
33:21
Speaker 3: Right.
33:21
Speaker 2: So, first off, I don't know from an autistic point
33:25
Speaker 2: of view how you would need to come at that
33:28
Speaker 2: to get on the same way, you know, to access
33:31
Speaker 2: this esoteric level of understanding, esoteric being hit hidden knowledge, right.
33:38
Speaker 3: Well, I listened to the esoterics. I listened to the
33:41
Speaker 3: rabbis for the theology, the ideas about reincarnation, which is
33:46
Speaker 3: a very important idea for us, and the reasons behind it,
33:51
Speaker 3: and how it's very interesting when you think about it.
33:56
Speaker 3: Are you You were saying about how people you know,
34:00
Speaker 3: the quantum side of things that you can't see, and
34:02
Speaker 3: the physics things that you can But how often do
34:05
Speaker 3: you hear people say, well, I don't believe in what
34:08
Speaker 3: I can't see. Well, that there's so many there's loads
34:12
Speaker 3: of things that you can't see, but you know the effects.
34:15
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't see the wind, and take a
34:17
Speaker 3: typical example, and people think it's clever when they say that, oh,
34:20
Speaker 3: I don't believe that I can't see that. Well, you
34:22
Speaker 3: can't see the wind, but you can see what it does.
34:25
Speaker 3: You can't see your ribosome replicating your RNA to make
34:30
Speaker 3: some DNA, but you stay alive. You can't see your
34:34
Speaker 3: thoughts you know, it just doesn't make any sense. You know,
34:39
Speaker 3: it sounds clever, but it's not. But I will say from.
34:42
Speaker 4: The point of view of things like quantum physics is
34:45
Speaker 4: we've allowed a lot of we've basically abandoned the scientific
34:50
Speaker 4: method in the West, and that's got a lot to
34:52
Speaker 4: do with kind of dumbing things down and causing problems
34:55
Speaker 4: and a lot of problems in education, because the scientific
34:58
Speaker 4: method is how we built today's wonderful technology and science
35:04
Speaker 4: and medicine. And the scientific method is you have a
35:07
Speaker 4: thesis about something, You design an experiment to verify your thesis,
35:12
Speaker 4: The experiment comes up with the expected result, and a
35:16
Speaker 4: bunch of other people do the same thing, and you
35:18
Speaker 4: all agree that this thesis is correct. But ideas in
35:22
Speaker 4: quantum physics are not testable, ideas as our ideas in origins.
35:28
Speaker 4: You know, anything that you cannot test doesn't belong science.
35:34
Speaker 2: This is where your lived experience comes in, isn't it so.
35:38
Speaker 2: Jesus was a gnostic. He was part of the ascend
35:42
Speaker 2: sect or the ascend movement. If you want to believe
35:45
Speaker 2: this guy existed in the form of yes, you were whatever.
35:49
Speaker 2: I don't really have a dog in that fight. I
35:52
Speaker 2: know that, you know, he will always be my best friend,
35:55
Speaker 2: but that's something personal to me. But he was a
35:59
Speaker 2: not stick. So someone said to me the other day, Chris,
36:03
Speaker 2: why do you believe that your way?
36:05
Speaker 3: You know?
36:06
Speaker 2: And well, it's for the same reason Jesus, I don't believe.
36:10
Speaker 3: I know.
36:11
Speaker 2: It's gnosticism because the science of which you talk about
36:15
Speaker 2: is the material, hard, fact provable, you know, interpretations using
36:22
Speaker 2: using scientific method and experiment. That that that apparatus childs
36:27
Speaker 2: doesn't work with what Jesus was preaching. That doesn't work
36:32
Speaker 2: what worked, although it's still equally as scientific, it's just
36:39
Speaker 2: scientific in a different way. I suppose you could say.
36:42
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's people's lived experience. It works for them,
36:47
Speaker 3: and it causes changes in their life, and that's I'd
36:51
Speaker 3: be the first. You know, you've heard what I said
36:54
Speaker 3: about the New Testament, that I would be the first
36:56
Speaker 3: to say that Chris against against the matrix, but that
37:02
Speaker 3: Christianity has done a lot of good in the world,
37:06
Speaker 3: a huge amount of good, and that the ideas around Christianity,
37:12
Speaker 3: whatever issues there are with the theology, none of my
37:16
Speaker 3: business really Hashem the Creator has allowed Christianity to flourish
37:21
Speaker 3: at certain points in time, and it brought it huge.
37:25
Speaker 3: People criticized Christianity all about this, what about that? It's
37:28
Speaker 3: sort of go and live in those places before the
37:31
Speaker 3: before the Conquistadors turned up, or before other places because
37:38
Speaker 3: or the British turned up in India or the British
37:40
Speaker 3: turned up in different places. Yeah, there's problems, but overall
37:43
Speaker 3: it brought a lot of improvement for five hundred years
37:47
Speaker 3: to the whole globe and elevated the safety and the
37:51
Speaker 3: living standards of billions of people. So you know, and
37:55
Speaker 3: that's why Hashem allowed and Christianity, I mean, you know,
38:01
Speaker 3: that's how I.
38:02
Speaker 2: See it is like the Life of Brian. Have you
38:05
Speaker 2: seen that film? I have Christians ever done for us well?
38:12
Speaker 3: And a lot of the people that made the people
38:16
Speaker 3: like Faraday, pastor Newton, they were theists and they were Christians.
38:23
Speaker 3: And what drove their interest in science is because they
38:27
Speaker 3: believed that, you know, there were physical there was a creator.
38:31
Speaker 3: Therefore there were physical laws, and they were after finding
38:36
Speaker 3: about electricity. That wasn't the start point. They just wanted
38:39
Speaker 3: to find out these laws. And and that's where it
38:42
Speaker 3: all came from. And one big thing, one thing I
38:45
Speaker 3: would say as well, if we're talking about, you know,
38:48
Speaker 3: literal interpretations of the tour and so forth, is that
38:53
Speaker 3: we have physical laws that we know about and we
38:56
Speaker 3: all accept. But what the tour is teaching is the
39:00
Speaker 3: spiritual laws, which are just as powerful and just as
39:05
Speaker 3: important to the individual. And what for me, the value
39:09
Speaker 3: of sitting down with the family and going for it
39:12
Speaker 3: is discovering and discussing these spiritual laws because they're there
39:17
Speaker 3: for our defense, our welfare, our improvement and other people.
39:23
Speaker 3: And that's very informative and useful.
39:27
Speaker 2: Can you give us an example, Charles, this it sounds
39:31
Speaker 2: quite contradictory, and I don't mean that, you know, I'm
39:35
Speaker 2: not being critical. I'm just saying, on the one hand,
39:38
Speaker 2: you say it's physical, it's fact this all actually happened,
39:41
Speaker 2: which you know, I would differ there. I mean, some
39:45
Speaker 2: of it might have happened. I've been in the Holy Land,
39:48
Speaker 2: like you know, Israel and Palestine several times, well several
39:52
Speaker 2: times each. I mean, when you're in a taxi there,
39:55
Speaker 2: the taxis rather attached you on the should and go
39:57
Speaker 2: see over there. That's for David Fauke Goliath and someone
40:01
Speaker 2: like me would be no, that's where love conquered the
40:04
Speaker 2: ego in an allegorical story encoded into human words. It's
40:10
Speaker 2: not an actual place, right, it can't be both. It
40:14
Speaker 2: would be one hell of a coincidence. If love overcoming
40:18
Speaker 2: ego with five pebbles, which represent overcoming the five senses,
40:23
Speaker 2: with the first pebble hitting the giant the ego in
40:27
Speaker 2: the pineal gland symbolic of a Kundalini awakening, you have
40:32
Speaker 2: to admit that would be mental if, like literally, that
40:36
Speaker 2: actually happened as well, that the chance of that being
40:39
Speaker 2: coincidence are billions upon billions to one. I would say,
40:45
Speaker 2: but I'm fascinated to know what's When you say spiritual
40:50
Speaker 2: then like you're talking in my words now, Charles, So
40:54
Speaker 2: I'm getting a bit confused. Can you give us an
40:57
Speaker 2: example then.
40:58
Speaker 3: Of yeah, well, for instance, what spiritual laws? I'm thinking
41:05
Speaker 3: lass on hurrah as one. Can you if I briefly
41:08
Speaker 3: mention that, and if you can think of some more
41:09
Speaker 3: because we do a bit that lately and we well, well,
41:13
Speaker 3: one big biggie is something called lasson harah, where it's
41:18
Speaker 3: talking about other people when it's not necessary, and there's
41:24
Speaker 3: a lot that's one of the things people get punished
41:26
Speaker 3: a lot for well. One of the reasons why with
41:30
Speaker 3: the rabbis teach, one of the reasons why Israel escaped
41:34
Speaker 3: or taken out of Egypt was because they were strict
41:39
Speaker 3: about that law. So what there's speaking about other people,
41:44
Speaker 3: and especially in the derogatory way, what punishments does that bring? Well,
41:49
Speaker 3: I think I think that it can cause skin problems
41:54
Speaker 3: in a physical way, and also about tooth bad teeth,
41:59
Speaker 3: so as physical gramifications. But it also you get judged
42:03
Speaker 3: for it because then other people do the same to you,
42:07
Speaker 3: and it's a difficult one or for instance, coveraging. You know,
42:12
Speaker 3: that's a big one, isn't it. We should all be
42:15
Speaker 3: grateful for what God has given us and make the
42:20
Speaker 3: most of it. And life is very difficult at times.
42:24
Speaker 3: We have to remember, you know, it's like one day
42:27
Speaker 3: above the ground. However, bad is still a day above
42:31
Speaker 3: the ground. Much no matter how awful it is, it's
42:35
Speaker 3: still better than nothing. And to understand that the Creator
42:41
Speaker 3: owns everything and he gives to people what he will.
42:46
Speaker 3: And if somebody appears to do nothing and be an
42:52
Speaker 3: idiot but enormously wealthy, don't worry about that, because that
42:58
Speaker 3: there's a good reason for it, and you've got what
43:02
Speaker 3: you've got, and that's still an awful lot more than
43:06
Speaker 3: other people have got, and they could equally look at
43:09
Speaker 3: me the same way. So that not learning the laws
43:14
Speaker 3: of coveting gives or generates a feeling of gratitude from
43:20
Speaker 3: the Creator. And we're all being watched by these spiritual
43:25
Speaker 3: entities who instantly, according to the capitalists, vastly outnumber the
43:33
Speaker 3: number of people on the earth. And we're all being watched.
43:36
Speaker 3: And if they see that, that gratitude and that engenders loyalty.
43:42
Speaker 3: So but Ham loves gratitude and loves people appreciating him
43:50
Speaker 3: for what he is, which kind of feeds back into creation.
43:53
Speaker 3: You know, every week we must see something that hashm
43:56
Speaker 3: does and and we think, oh, it's a genius or miracles.
44:01
Speaker 3: Miracles happen in everybody's life. It's just spotting them. You know,
44:06
Speaker 3: I write mine down because I have them. You know,
44:09
Speaker 3: I see things. There's no such thing as coincidence. So
44:12
Speaker 3: it's understanding the order that there is order in the
44:18
Speaker 3: creation in which we live. It's not chaos at all.
44:22
Speaker 3: And everything happens to us this where we're coming from.
44:26
Speaker 3: It's what brings a peace of mind is understanding that
44:32
Speaker 3: these laws are operating on me and there's nothing that
44:36
Speaker 3: happens to me which I didn't deserve. And that's a
44:41
Speaker 3: difficult one. And that's actually what started us in the
44:44
Speaker 3: last year on kind of looking more into this thing
44:47
Speaker 3: about reincarnation because as Sem says, okay, here's a law.
44:51
Speaker 3: As Sem says he's fair and repays a man to
44:55
Speaker 3: his face. Now that's a difficult one, isn't it, Because
44:58
Speaker 3: a lot in life seems very unfair in thinking a minute,
45:02
Speaker 3: so from somebody like me, I've got a guess. I
45:06
Speaker 3: got a chew on that bone until I get somewhere
45:09
Speaker 3: with it, because if that's not true, the rest of
45:11
Speaker 3: it's not true. If I find one thing that's not
45:14
Speaker 3: true in the Torah, that's the end of my journey
45:17
Speaker 3: with it. So we eventually got some answers to that,
45:20
Speaker 3: and the knowledge of the spiritual laws is essential to
45:25
Speaker 3: understanding what's happening in your life when you're being rewarded,
45:29
Speaker 3: when you're being upbraid, and where you're going.
45:32
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think our paths were destined to cross Charles
45:36
Speaker 2: for this exact conversation, you know, thank you well, thanks
45:40
Speaker 2: to the divine and the divine divine within us, because yesterday, I,
45:45
Speaker 2: you know, I was yakub at the Brook, wrestling with
45:49
Speaker 2: a man in the form of an angel, which is allegory,
45:53
Speaker 2: and I was wrestling with myself in the form of
45:56
Speaker 2: information coming from from source, and I was wrestling. I
46:00
Speaker 2: was wrestling over the fact that very often in a podcast,
46:04
Speaker 2: particularly a live stream I used to have, I always
46:08
Speaker 2: felt I needed to use real world examples, which meant
46:12
Speaker 2: talking about other people. And I've always paraphrased it as, hey, folks,
46:16
Speaker 2: I'm not slagging this person off, which I'm not, because
46:20
Speaker 2: they're just me and another body and the stuff they're doing.
46:23
Speaker 2: I've done it all. I've done all the evil wrong
46:25
Speaker 2: stuff in this life. I drank, I was off my
46:29
Speaker 2: head on drugs and alcohol for thirty five years. It's
46:33
Speaker 2: and I'm still and I wouldn't judge anyone that did
46:36
Speaker 2: the same. It was part of my journey, right. So,
46:39
Speaker 2: but yesterday I was singing this particular individual that's got
46:42
Speaker 2: a very hypocritical position in this life. He represents this
46:49
Speaker 2: organization on the one hand, which you think is peace,
46:52
Speaker 2: love and kindness, and then on the other hand, he's
46:55
Speaker 2: out sending people off to war, and I knew the
47:01
Speaker 2: fact that I was having to meditate it. I was
47:04
Speaker 2: Yakub waiting to be the isral isis feminine energy, you know,
47:11
Speaker 2: rather masculine energy Elohim, the bindingness that comes when you
47:16
Speaker 2: combine the left hemisphere and right hemisphere of your brain.
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Speaker 2: And that has just happened. Now I've just gone from
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Speaker 2: Yakub to Israel through this conversation. On this particular point,
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Speaker 2: we shouldn't be highlighting other people as an example of
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Speaker 2: how not to do things. And this goes back Jesus.
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Speaker 2: What did he say, don't point out the plank in
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Speaker 2: some you know, point out the splinter in someone else's
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Speaker 2: eye when you've got a plank in your own.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, well, Chris, you know, I it's one of
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Speaker 3: the difficulties. I'm fortunate that I am in very good
47:56
Speaker 3: physical health for my age sixty two. But one of
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Speaker 3: the excruciating things about you know, somethings, something changes when
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Speaker 3: you're sixty. I think it's common to a lot of people,
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Speaker 3: and it started to happen before. But you know, you
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Speaker 3: see you just touched on looking back on your life.
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Speaker 3: Ah man, you know it's awful it's excruciating, but you know,
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Speaker 3: if if you didn't, it would mean that you hadn't changed.
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Speaker 3: And part of this regeneration process it is taking you know,
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Speaker 3: looking back in a different way on your life. And
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Speaker 3: it does hurt. Yeah, yeah, it's just awful and it's
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Speaker 3: every day. But yeah, just so it probably get worse
48:45
Speaker 3: when you're still you know you're not, but you are there.
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Speaker 3: You know. It's part of that pathway I call it.
48:52
Speaker 3: I call it your pathway. And these things have to
48:56
Speaker 3: be done. You've got to go through it to you know,
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Speaker 3: this retrospection. And again the matrix tells you don't look in,
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Speaker 3: don't stop looking behind, you look ahead. Well no, because
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Speaker 3: you've got to comprehend your own history from different perspectives
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Speaker 3: from the one The person that did those things and
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Speaker 3: the person that's looking at it now they're totally different
49:22
Speaker 3: people and that's painful.
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Speaker 2: Charles, listen, this has been an absolutely splendid conversation. Thank
49:30
Speaker 2: you for letting me chip my contribution in.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't do interviews, Charles. I don't want to be
49:38
Speaker 2: the BBC, you know, I want to get a mate on.
49:41
Speaker 2: We have a good natter and we get to the
49:44
Speaker 2: bottom of stuff, you know. So we've we've just had
49:48
Speaker 2: a great chat. I thank you.
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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that.
49:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go again though, And also I
49:54
Speaker 2: think we can maybe incorporate some meditation or what scripture
49:59
Speaker 2: is referred to prayer in so I can maybe get
50:03
Speaker 2: across to you what I'm what I feel from my
50:07
Speaker 2: connection because I did it with my last guess and
50:10
Speaker 2: they were I had to wake them up. Well come back.
50:14
Speaker 2: They were like, wow, Chris, I get it. I get
50:18
Speaker 2: it right anyway, Okay, Charles, thank you so much for
50:23
Speaker 2: coming on. Absolutely brilliant. I think we can talk for hours,
50:27
Speaker 2: but if we keep it in these segments, I think
50:30
Speaker 2: they're they're bite size for people. We're also going to
50:33
Speaker 2: talk about the Falklands. We didn't get round to that today,
50:37
Speaker 2: but massive love to you Charles and your wonderful family. Hi,
50:46
Speaker 2: and let's let let's go again, brother, because I I Chris,
50:52
Speaker 2: I've got so much at this chat.
50:54
Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, thank you. Maybe we could talk about
50:56
Speaker 3: Falklands and war crimes and nuclear weapons incident next time,
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Speaker 3: or just do this again.
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Speaker 2: We will friends at home. I'm sorry, I've got a rush,
51:06
Speaker 2: but I've got back to back podcasts today, we're going
51:09
Speaker 2: to come back to Charles. Can I ask you please
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51:20
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51:25
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51:27
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51:31
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