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From Broken to Bold: Healing After Divorce with Energy Work by Diva Kathryn · The Diva Details

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Welcome to the Diva Details. Welcome to the Diva Details.
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Let's dive in with Diva Mia and Diva Cat.
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Aloha diva cat hello diva mia
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how are you today i'm good how have you
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been lately i've been busy busy busy well
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i know this is our podcast and we are blessed to have an energy healer with
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us today she is world renowned wow she's an amazing person she is a clairvoyant
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and reiki healer and she owns a company called Aligned Guidance,
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and she's absolutely amazing.
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Wow. She is so incredible. She is going to walk us through what you need to
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do to heal from PTSD, from divorce, from tragedy, and she's going to help us
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along the way to realize what we need to do in life to move on to the next step and to level up.
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That's amazing. That's all very amazing. How are you doing, Diva Catherine?
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I'm amazing. Thank you for having me today. We can't wait to have you.
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We were so excited to have you on today.
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Awesome. I'm excited to be here. Yeah, absolutely. So I wanted to kind of just
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get started with what exactly it is that you do to help people through divorce.
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Now, I've used you personally.
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I can give recommendation after recommendation for you, but you're amazing and
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you help people heal when they go through a divorce and or if they've gone through
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other types of tragedies or losses.
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And you've been such a fundamental part of my healing journey that I wanted
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to have you on as soon as possible.
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It's amazing. I'm so glad to hear that I've impacted you and your soul in such
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an amazing way. Absolutely.
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So tell us kind of what you do. So I help women to uncover, discover,
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dig deep and help transform the trauma of leaving
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a relationship and redefining who they are now that they're like in this new
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realm because we're one person when we're in a marriage and then another person
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we have to like find our new identity and really like untap what we want and
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like unravel all the fears that come along with that.
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You know, going from two incomes to one and like, who am I now that I'm alone
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in this space and working through loneliness and the process that it takes to
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coming home to yourself.
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And a lot of that really is like creating emotional safety, learning to trust
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yourself, finding your voice again. Mm-hmm.
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And working through the trauma and like whatever it looked like for you in the relationship.
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So I use somatic practices and energy healing to help build emotional awareness
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and like begin to separate old patterns to establish trust in yourself.
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And I coach you through to your new self or your, you know.
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Yeah, I know when I was going through it, I was going through kind of an identity
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crisis as well. So I was struggling.
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I was completely struggling. And I think that you were so integral in helping
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me realize that I needed to get back to who I was and realize that I am more
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than I used to be and to find the new me.
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And I think that was so perfect for the problems that I was going through.
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And I needed that so much.
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When you do your energy healing let's just kind
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of start at the very beginning how do you start when a new client comes in what
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do you do first when you're like gathering information about their situation
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trying to figure out what they need etc how do you start how do you begin so
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usually i begin with a conversation over the phone and just like find out what
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their current struggles are,
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and discover really like you know what's holding them back from their true passion
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and purpose And that's one thing.
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Seated wounding is around, like, what's the biggest challenge right now in their lives?
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You know, for you, when you walked in the door, you know, it was a lot of excitement
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about, like, who I'm going to be in this new, like, realm and reality.
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And then there's also like, you know, anger of like giving yourself away in
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a way that no longer serves you and that abandon that we do to ourselves when
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you give yourself to this marriage.
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I mean, obviously, like we all have those of us that have been married before
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can identify with that part of us that feels like. So as a healer,
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I work with people who have energy blocks as well as emotional entanglements.
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And in that, I break free the ties from the ex-relationship so that you have
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freedom in your own space to grow and heal and then manifest from that place. Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, I remember when I was going
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through it, we had a conversation on the phone at the very beginning.
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And then when I come in for each session, we kind of talk a little bit.
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It's kind of almost like a therapy session just to kind of unwind what I've
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got that's troubling me, if you will. And that helps out a lot,
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too, to kind of focus the session, I think, into exactly what needs to be accomplished.
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And I will say there was, I remember one situation after my divorce where I
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gave you a call because I was crying and I couldn't stop. Do you remember that time?
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And I was like, I'm crying and I can't stop. It just won't turn off.
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Oh, wow. And I was broken. I mean, that's the only word I have for it.
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And I was like, it won't turn off. And I came to see you, and I was still crying.
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And it just wouldn't turn off. And I didn't know what to do.
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And you calmed me down. You settled my nervous system, which was amazing.
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And you helped clear me, which I don't even know how you did it.
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And I felt so much better after that session. I wasn't happy.
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I wasn't like jumping off, you know, like goo-goo-ga-ga. But I was calm.
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And the calmness allowed me to move forward.
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And I think when you're going through a divorce, it's baby steps.
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It's one step at a time. And you have to go through the healing.
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Now, some people go faster than others, but you still got to feel it.
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And sometimes you have to go step by step and feel the pain.
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But you saved me from not being able to function, which I have children.
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And not being able to function would have been absolutely terrible.
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So blessings for you. Absolutely. Thank you.
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And going deeper into that, I just want to say that, you know,
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being a willing participant in the healing process by showing up in your tears
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and allowing yourself to have the freedom to like move through that because
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we can't go over it. We can't go under it.
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We have to go through it. And that's how the healing works. You know,
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the energetic healing and chakra balancing work because you are a willing participant
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who shows up and is capable and willing and honest about what you're feeling
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in that moment, whether it's fear, anger, worry, doubt,
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all the feelings that we have around walking into this new realm of reality
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and that sadness that was present that day.
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I am capable and able to just really be present with it, talk to that feeling,
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and share with you the patterns that likely are the things that we stuff, which, you know.
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Those are the things that are coming up for the day, and that's what's present
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for healing and healing.
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Those patterns of judgment we have on ourselves of like, how did I stay here so long?
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And that push down or that chipping away that happens of our soul because we
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stayed in a dysfunctional relationship for far too long.
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Yeah, and I think that that's part of the identity crisis, too,
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because then, I mean, I think a lot of people that come out of marriages, we're smart women.
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We have to analyze inside of ourselves why we allowed ourselves to stay in a
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marriage that was broken or not working or not functioning. A lot of times we
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stay because of societal pressures. We stay because we think we have to for the kids.
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But in reality, we're losing part of ourselves. And you have to regain all of
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that back when you go through the divorce. What are you going to say, DevaCat? No.
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So when people walked into you, do you feel the energies already or do you have
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to talk to them first? Sometimes I can feel their energy before they're actually even at my door.
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So, you know, there's a lot of times where I get a download before it actually
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occurred, like before somebody even walks into my office.
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Right. So it really depends on the person. It depends on the situation.
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And the way a usual session works is the person sits down across from me and
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we talk about what's happening in their lives right now. And then oftentimes
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I feel in my body what's stuck or stagnant in theirs.
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So then we talk about like, you know, what's going on in your heart?
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Why do I feel this like anxious feeling?
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Because that's how my senses as a healer present themselves.
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I usually, I call it clear sentient where I feel it in my body.
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And then I know that's the area that needs to be focused on.
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I see. or there's like stagnation in the neck or something like that.
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That's interesting. My acupuncturist has the same type of feeling when he knows where to put.
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I mean, he knows the channels, but then he feels the tightness.
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He can feel the tightness in my body without even touching me,
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really. So he's a similar type of sentient. Is that what you called it?
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Yeah, sentient. He has the same type of abilities. Wow.
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I think it's a crucial part of healing. I think you have to identify your gifts
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and it's a gift to have this. It's an amazing gift.
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And the nice thing is, is that you've been so flexible. I know you book up.
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So anybody that wants to book with you, I know you also do online and virtual consultations.
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So people that want to do virtual, they can also do virtual consultations with you.
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So if you can't make it to your location, there's a way to do it virtually because
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you can feel people's vibes, guys.
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Vibes are huge and energy is huge. And people don't realize how connected we all truly are.
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And healing needs to be, you know, multifaceted. It's not just going to a therapist.
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It's not just, you know, going to a coach.
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You need multiple things to heal. Please describe it as my therapist was taking
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me from my current situation, fixing my childhood traumas and my past.
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My coach was taking me from my current situation and having me set goals for my future.
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And my energy healer is fixing my present, which will fix my future.
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So I needed all three because my present, she helped me through the present
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now more so than my therapist or my coach.
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The present now has to be with some type of energy healer because you're stuck
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a lot of times when you get divorced, you're blocked and you need someone that
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can assist you so you can move on because people don't realize how stuck people get.
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I just want to say something further about the stagnation and the blocks,
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because the other aspect of not just working with the chakras,
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but it's really about rewiring our belief systems around love and relationships and our visibility.
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Because I know for me, in my traumatic marriage, I had to stifle myself or get small.
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And then learning how to free myself and give myself this new elevation, right?
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Working on anchoring new self-worth and our soul trust, where my truth is I
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know that I'm here for a purpose and a reason.
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And I fortunately get to channel energy as my job,
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as my vocation, and I get to embody divine feminine energy like as a receiver
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of this channel and then teaching women how to practice boundaries and communicate and learn to speak,
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use their voice, and then honoring themselves and making new choices so that
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they can expand into their passion and purpose and alignment for their friends.
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Truth. Do you work with men as well? I do. Okay.
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I do, actually. So men that are going through it, because I know a lot of men,
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when they go through divorce or tragedies as well, or death of a spouse, they get stuck too.
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Some people even get stuck when their kids go off to college.
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I mean, we don't even address that, but empty nesting is a tragedy for some people.
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So I might have to help. You might have to help me. Some people get stuck for that.
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So it's needed to, you know, clear our minds.
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And there's a book that talks about the issues in your tissues,
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feel emotions deeply in your body.
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And sometimes your body gets stuck. You can't lose weight because you've got
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emotional trauma in it. And this helps that as well. Yes, absolutely.
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Just to address the empty nest or syndrome, I think a lot of women in midlife
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are going through identity crises because if you've been a mother,
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a stay-at-home mom for 15, 20 years or whatever, and now your entire purpose has to change.
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So really, like, who am I now, now that my child is off to college?
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And or as far as men goes, you know, whether you're a seeker,
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or you are looking for like higher purpose or passion, a lot of a lot of men
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are really on this consciousness path as well, and want to dive deeper,
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whether you have a physical ailment that, you know, gets you in the door.
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The truth is, we all have trauma in the system or issues in the tissue.
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And whether it's like karmic from a past life or if you're having inflammation in your body,
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whether it's like worry that causes some kind of underlying issue,
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a lot of times we can circle it back to the first eight years of our lives.
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And there's a lot of healing that you and I did too around your early childhood wounding.
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And that has a lot to do with the work that I do as well,
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so that you can free yourself from those old tapes and recognize that this was
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my unconscious thought and that you consciously create a new thought that then
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rewires your brain so that it changes what you're thinking,
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how you're speaking to yourself and others and what we're feeling.
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Yes. So in the beginning, I think I was I came to you more to just.
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Survive. And I was in survival mode just to get through the day.
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And as I went on and I started to heal, now that I'm surviving,
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how can I become more stable and make sure that I have stability in my life
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and things are functioning?
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And now we're looking towards success. I mean, propelling me now to the next level.
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It's like you're a life coach at the same time you're healing my energy paths.
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Because now I'm looking towards how can I grow in the future and make sure that
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I'm directing my energy in the right way and focusing in the right way to,
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you know, take on the world again.
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And that, I mean, it's been such an amazing journey, I must say,
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because I have loved growing through this process.
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And the process, you think that, you know, it's really tough.
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And if anybody's in the beginning of a divorce, I feel your pain. I truly feel your pain.
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The reality is, is that once you get through it, you're going to be so much
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stronger, but you got to go through it.
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And I think a lot of people get stuck in the pain or stuck in the grief and they don't move past.
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And you're just so integral in helping someone move past the stuckness.
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In the very beginning, I said, I don't want to get stuck. I don't want to get stuck.
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I don't want to be stuck because I've seen so many women.
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I mean, I saw, I know a woman that she's been divorced for six years,
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hasn't gone on any dates.
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She hates men. She blames her ex-husband for cheating with the younger woman.
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She's like, all men just want younger women. I'm like, I'm dating younger men
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and I'm dating older men, I'm out there, you know, dating around and trying
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to find my new path forward.
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So I don't think that you should ever get stuck. And if you're stuck,
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you need to find an energy healer. You just do.
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And a really good one to help you get unstuck.
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But a lot of people don't believe in that. They don't admit that they get stuck.
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They just think like things will happen naturally. The time will heal them.
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They don't seek out to see people like you. I'm
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a believer that time doesn't heal all wounds it
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actually knows them i mean
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i don't think time heals ones i think it
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numbs it but the time is not what heals it you
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have to be aggressive about your healing you have to head you have to face it
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face first head on however you say it because if you don't you do get stuck
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and you have to feel and like i was remember feeling inside of me when i talked
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about some of the other steps i've taken where i got nervous about something or it made me uneasy,
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I would go towards it because I knew that I needed to heal that part because it gave me anxiety.
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And that's something, whenever you have anxiety, most people run away from it.
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Most people don't go towards it.
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You don't go over or under. You just go through it. You got to go through it.
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Exactly what Catherine said.
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All right, Diva Catherine. A couple of things that I just want to address based
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on what you were talking about.
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The friend that hasn't dated in six months. Six years. For six years.
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Living in that anger is a is a containment, right?
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You know, and so working with me basically allows you to like hold that container
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of anger and like remove it from your system in order to be able to like have
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a different experience.
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The other thing that you mentioned, I think a lot of women find distractions
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to numb their feelings so that they don't have to feel what's happening in their body.
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My job as a healer and a coach is to really get you to recognize and be accountable
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to those feelings. If you're willing and honest and open, you can heal.
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If you're distracted and finding other ways to numb the pain,
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you know, that's a survival mechanism that no longer works for us.
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And in order to move through the things that are woundings, in order to be able
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to, like, free yourself so that you can have a new experience,
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set aside what you know and what you think you know so that you can have a new
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experience, so that we can clarify our soul's purpose and mission. and align.
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So the distractions are the outward things that we do, right?
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Like whether it's food or addiction or men or things that like serve us temporary fix.
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But ultimately when we connect to source and ground in our power.
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We have this newfound empowered goddess sense of self that allows us to know
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our worth in a deeper way and to trust that I will not accept crumbs.
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You will not accept crumbs, you know, and that's another layer of what we go
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through working as, you know, working with me is knowing your worth,
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deepening your sense of self and trusting that next layer.
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I love distractions. I have to say I love distractions.
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When you're in a lot of pain, I understand the purpose of them.
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And I loved distracting myself in the very beginning.
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And I think it's because when you're healing in the beginning,
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you're going in circles. You're not actually moving anywhere.
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You're trying to move forward. You're going a little bit forward and then you're coming right back.
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I think the distractions make you feel like you're actually accomplishing something
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because otherwise you're just like, what am I doing?
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But you don't realize the distraction is actually holding back.
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And I think that the distractions that I had were such an interesting thing
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that I finally, when you got me to stop using distractions, then I actually
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started, you know, elevating myself higher faster.
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The distractions were definitely holding me back. Absolutely.
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But one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about as well is,
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so we've talked about people going through divorce or empty nesters.
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What about people that have had suffered from rape or molestation,
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or they've just had some type of trauma that has happened to them.
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Do you help those as well?
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Yes. Let me just say that distractions can be pleasurable.
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And our brains need like that dopamine fix so that we feel good, right?
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Because when you're on a healing journey and you're grieving,
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I think that it doesn't always feel good.
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So therefore, that love for distraction is like, I want to feel good.
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So it's a natural human response to not wanting to always like numb,
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you know, feel the pain or numb the pain.
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And the distraction actually serves a purpose for a period of time.
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And some live there for longer than others. Yes.
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And then you mentioned people with PTSD or from like a childhood rape or even
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in the military or someone that has suffered a recent rape or something that
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was so tragic. It could be a child's death.
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Those types of people, they get really stuck and knotted up as well and can't
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function. So how do you help them?
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Yeah. So my energy field is already changing just like having this conversation
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because it's deep-seated pain that's in the tissue in a way where women who
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have suffered from sexual trauma and or grief of a loss of some sort,
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because not only is sexual trauma, there's shame attached,
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unnecessary shame, might I say, because it's really not our fault.
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At the same time, somehow women have a tendency to make it our fault.
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And so like really knowing and cultivating.
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This authentic self has to do with letting go of anxiety or self-doubt or what
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it's supposed to look like.
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I've had amazing transformational experiences with clients who have had sexual
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trauma where it has left the system. When I do that kind of work,
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it really moves through the body in such a way that I can't really explain it.
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But there's astral attachments, or how do I use this in layman's terms?
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It's hard to describe. But there's a soul connection, like an entity of sorts,
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that attaches to our being that needs to be removed and healed and transmuted.
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With women who've lost a child, the grief in the heart and the separation,
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I tend to work with their chakras, cords, and kind of reconnect the cords so
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that your child will always be with you.
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And in fact, I know for certain that I've had experiences with spirits where
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they're present in the room and or even if they're not here in physical,
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I know that they're present by flickering lights and or signs and symbols or
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there's like goosebumps.
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Yeah. You ever had that experience? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely,
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yeah. Things with that is it takes layers, you know.
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So I often prescribe more sessions when someone has dealt with rape or trauma
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in the sexual realm and or grief from,
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you know, losing a child because there's shock to the system that needs layers of healing.
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I have come to you for a couple sessions in a week a couple times when I was
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having a really rough week. But in the beginning, I was kind of set on once a week. And then.
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Kind of a slow down maybe once every two weeks now. And I like that pace because
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it allows me to refocus and really dive into the stuff I need to dive into.
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One of the things you told me in the very beginning that has really resonated
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with me is that when you are coming out of a divorce or dealing with a tragedy
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or a trauma, you really need to think of yourself as a butterfly and have a cocoon.
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You're a chrysalis, right? You have your chrysalis when you're
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coming out of a tragedy and you're growing into that butterfly
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and you need to keep the people around you small
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so they don't damage you in your chrysalis and
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you were like five people no more five really good friends that you can keep
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around you and that's who you need to heal with and they need to be people that
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will support you and not people that damage you can you speak to that a little
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bit yes so your vibe attracts your tribe, right?
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When we elevate, we're looking to create people who are safe,
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supporting, and loving.
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And therefore, you don't want anyone in your field or in your bubble that is
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critical by nature or demeaning or damaging to your healing journey.
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So in that, it's important that you recognize, like, you know, who are my five people?
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Like, I can count on one hand who I would go to in a difficult situation.
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Who are the people that are safe, loving, and supportive that can hold me in a way?
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And the whole chrysalis thing, it's very sacred when you're newly raw out of
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a divorce and you need calming energy around you.
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And then as time goes on, you can flourish and get your wings.
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And once your wings are dry, you become this transformative of like being where
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you're living your authentic self in a higher state, right?
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We align with our higher realm so that you can really connect in a new and different way.
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And then you elevate to the next level where you can.
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And meet your potential new partner from this new state of grace that you've
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created because you're an empowered self and no longer willing to accept those
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crumbs that were once a part of the old story.
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Yeah, I think that was crucial.
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I remember that was probably maybe a month or so into my healing when you told me that.
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I think it was crucial because I had some friends at the time that were like,
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come on, diva me. They didn't call me diva, but come on, Mia.
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It's already been a three months. Why haven't you healed already?
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And I was like, wow. And they were good friends prior to my divorce,
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but they were not supportive when I was going through my divorce.
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And I realized after our conversation, because actually that happened right
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after our conversation, that I needed to find friends that would be supportive
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and not try to rush me along the process.
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I'm pretty fast at moving along the process myself. But they were like, I mean, it was it was bad.
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I mean, I was 28 years with one person and they wanted me to be healed in three months.
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I was like, what? Like, because every once in a while when you're still healing,
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you'll have a day, you might have great days.
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And then out of nowhere, you'll have a day where you just cry and you just kind
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of got to let it out or something reminds you of something and it makes you upset.
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So, yeah, you need people that will support you, not try to shame you into healing.
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So, yes, I mean, that's triggering the push, right?
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So a lot of times people mean well, but at the same time, if they're pushing
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you into a way of being that you're not feeling that is you're ready for.
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Then it doesn't feel like in alignment with what's true and right right now
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or like it's not a win for you.
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The people in your circle need to feel like it's okay to express a boundary
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and feel good about my newfound voice so that I feel empowered to be able to
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speak my truth in front of you. And you're not going to get your feelings hurt.
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And even if you do, you can talk to me about it.
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That's a true friendship and or relationship that's worthy of like building up, right?
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Or feeling worthy of reciprocal love. Because a lot of times we have to go through
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that place of like, do I deserve this newfound love that I'm experiencing now? Mm-hmm.
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Yeah. And first, we have to find a way to give it to ourselves. Right.
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Now, I took a couple months off, maybe three months after my divorce,
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before I actually started working with you. I wish I would have started sooner.
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I actually wish I would have started while I was going through the divorce and
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not wait till after I was fully divorced because I was kind of a wreck during the divorce.
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And I think you could have helped me get through some of the struggles of the
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divorce a little bit easier as well. I think sometimes we think we can do it ourselves.
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I'm kind of pigheaded that way. I think I can do things myself.
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I think I can recover and heal myself completely.
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When you're struggling, that's when we need other people.
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I don't think we realize how much we need other people. We need people that.
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Aren't necessarily our friends.
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Because I was helping a person through his divorce.
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I did as much as I could but I realized that
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at a certain point I was a sounding board for him
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to complain to not someone that he could heal with he
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and he was you know he wanted to just be sad
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with me and I had to take a step back I encouraged
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him to go through therapy and find an energy healer I don't know if he
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has but I had to take a step back because I
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think I was enabling his pain to continue
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if that makes sense so I think people that can
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actually direct the pain and direct the healing
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is what you need not someone that you can just go
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and vent to all the time that's what you do is you
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help heal the pain and pull some of
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the bad cords off of us if you can talk to that a little
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bit yeah but the problem that people
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don't believe in that do you know i can't change people's beliefs
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there's nothing i can do when people won't believe yeah
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but when you actually experience it firsthand
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and here's the thing katherine will tell you i wasn't
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a big believer when i walked in that door i was
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like okay i'm a very analytical logical person when
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i walked in the door i was like okay we'll see what this will do that's why
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it took me three months to meet with her because my friend that referred me
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to you told me all how amazing you were and i just didn't really believe it
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because i'm not into the hookup poco whatever yeah when the the tech the woo
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stuff my background's in engineering right computers right.
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And I absolutely love helping people create an open mind around what that's like.
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And in the first three months of somebody walking through a divorce,
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they're scattered and shattered, you know, and finding the courage to invest
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in themselves is part of what happens to women who are newly going through a divorce,
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like deserving this healing process and walking through it with someone.
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I do feel like it's like talk therapy, but it's on a deeper visceral level because
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on an energetic level, there's wounding of feelings of inadequacy or worthiness
30:52
pieces or worried or anxiousness.
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Like all these things, they're stuck in our systems and learning how to talk
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about those things in a way. I know that energy healing goes way deeper than
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talk therapy because it's emotional, physical, mental, spiritual.
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And so we are physical beings having a, we're spiritual beings having a human being experience.
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And, and the depth of what that looks like is tailored differently to every
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single person that I work with because everybody's emotions and needs are different.
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So I use my intuition and track progress with each client to help work with
31:30
their individual wounding so that they can really have this like rebirth.
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That's what it feels like. Yeah.
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The midlife rebirth. That's the way to put it, yeah. That's the way to do it. I even went to Miraval.
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I don't know. I know you know what Miraval is. Miraval is a resort where you go to heal.
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And they have different types of massage and yoga and sound baths and relaxation spas.
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And I went from being very analytical, just as you're saying,
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some people don't believe, to going all in on this.
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And just trying to really get back to who I am as a person and feel my feminine
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energy, which I think I was completely disconnected from for a very long time
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and was very much into my masculine energy.
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So I kind of dove headfirst into this, too.
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And when I did, it just it took such a weight off. I also want to address the
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skepticism because as a human, we have reason, will, and emotion, right?
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So a lot of times your reason is what's the front runner, let's say.
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So those people, like, they come from a place of I think whatever you think, right?
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Whereas someone who's more of an emotional being, they feel.
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So they speak I feel worried or, you know, concerned. Whereas somebody who lives
32:50
in their will centers is I'm going to make it work.
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I'm going to make this happen. So as a reader, as a body reader and intuitive,
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I see that like skeptics often come from a reason state where they're like thinking
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from their head most of the time.
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So it's hard for them to make decisions from their emotional state.
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And this state of like, you know, our head to our heart is a 12 inch like differentiation.
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But oftentimes when When we're stuck in trauma, we don't know how to think our
33:22
way through, how to feel our way through.
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There's a big gap in between knowing how to drop down into your heart to feel
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what your body's feeling because we're so analytically engineered to be in school
33:39
for 12 years thinking our way through.
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When I teach you how to really like live in your heart and find a way how to
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uncover the stuck places, whether you're overgiving or abandoning yourself or second guessing,
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we second guess ourselves because what our heart wants isn't always what our
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head wants. You know what I'm saying?
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So when you come into a session, you want to go through kind of how it starts and what the flow is?
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So after I get an idea of what's here now, whether, you know,
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someone is coming in from a brand new divorce and really wants to work through
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the feelings, anger, sadness, disappointment,
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you know, the grief and the loss that comes from, I thought this was going to
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be my person forever, or thank God I'm free of this narcissistic bullshit, right? Right.
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So it really depends on where the person is. You can still have both.
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Yes. And then allowing that person to have all those feelings.
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Yeah. And then once we've talked about some of the things that are present and
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ripe for healing, I put the person on the table and then I do a scan on their
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body and their being and like see,
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feel, sense into what needs to be healed.
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A lot of times with women, their heart chakra has a connection to this previous
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partner and learning how to disconnect that other person's energy from their
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field so that they can have more freedom and learn to speak their truth and
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be more intuitive in who they are becoming.
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Yes, becoming. And when you say table, she means massage table. Massage table. Yeah.
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And I will say, since I've been doing this work, I have been more open to see
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signs in my life that come about and receive.
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Before, I think I blocked a lot of what was out there, and that was good for
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me because I was blocked as a person. And now I'm open to receiving signs from
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the universe or signs from things that happen.
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I see coincidences now, and I'm like, hmm, what can I learn from this?
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What's this lesson going to teach me? I will say that Best Energy Healing has,
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it's really transformed my life completely.
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I also want to say that I can do this work remotely and sense and feel into, um...
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A lot of, you know, Diva Cat has a lot of questions, unanswered questions in her being.
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Like I can see that she's skeptical still.
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This is all new to me. So I had a lot of questions in my head.
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Yeah. So the energy healing is actually, I think, doesn't it come from a lot
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of Asian practices as well?
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Yes. So my background, I was a massage therapist in my previous life.
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And in school, we had a lot of Eastern theory.
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So I learned a lot about acupuncture, acupressure and the different ways in
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which if you wake up between three and five o'clock in the morning,
36:30
your liver has dampness.
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And therefore, it's one of the things where like our body speaks to us in so many different ways.
36:38
So breeding into the signs of like what's happening in your body,
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you know, for Diva Cat, there's a lot of like burden, shoulder burden.
36:46
You know, I do really feel like a sense that there's a lot on your well centers,
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like you push through life in a way that it almost feels like a power mask.
36:55
Like, I've got this. I can do this. Like, I'm She-Ra, princess, warrior.
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Like, I know I can handle it all on my own. That's the sense I get from your
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energy field that I'm reading you right now.
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So does that resonate with you? Huh. That's amazing because I carry everything
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on my shoulder. She does.
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Yeah. Wow. And you have to be open to receive it, too.
37:16
I think part of it's not just believing it. I think you have to be really open to receive the change.
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I mean, because you help people change and move forward.
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It's not just a, you're going to talk to me like a therapist.
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It's actually helping me transition to the next stage or the next level.
37:34
I see. Now you feel, actually, because the difference is now you've like removed
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the skepticism and I can feel you're softening a bit so that you can experience
37:44
this work in a newfound way.
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And I guess I'm a body reader and intuitive. I don't know.
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How it comes about, it's just one of the things that working with people,
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you asked me, like, what does it look like in a typical session?
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I'm trying to give a live example. I've never met this woman before in my life.
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So there's definitely a harder shell that in the healing work can be softened
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by really deepening into what's here now.
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And it helps you grow into your future too and realize your full potential.
38:19
I think that can't be said enough. When I was a little broken or stuck from
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my divorce, I honestly didn't see a way forward.
38:26
And now we've transitioned so much into just like elevating me to the next level
38:32
or leveling up that now that's most of our session now.
38:35
It's not really, yeah, we may talk about a few things that happened,
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but most of it's now is how can we move me forward and elevate me to the next level?
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I think that's an important recognition, too, because I have a background,
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like, what are your goals now?
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How do you want to be accountable to what that looks like? Not just,
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like, I'm going to heal what's, like, present in your being,
38:57
but you have goals and visions of what you want your life to look like five
39:02
years from now, ten years from now.
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We are energetic beings, so what we think about creates more of the same.
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So when you want to manifest your future life, you plant a seed within your
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cellular level so that you can create this small growth, which eventually evolves
39:20
into the bigger version of who you want to become.
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So by doing that with me, I'm planting seeds on a cellular level in your energy
39:28
being so that you can create on a physical level and manifest like abundance.
39:35
Prosperity, and live from a state of grace and help you manifest your next partner,
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whatever that looks like. You know what I mean? I'm here for it.
39:44
She wants me to go younger. She's been trying to get me to date younger.
39:47
And I'm like I'm just open to the
39:49
universe whoever matches my energy or matches
39:53
my vibration I'm open to that
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and I am ready to receive but I'm
39:59
not in a rush you know it's like if it happens it happens but there's no rush
40:03
and I think that's something that you have to realize too you don't want to
40:07
rush the healing but at the same time you don't want to delay the healing and
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I think some people are just expecting time to heal it. Like you said,
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time heals all things. It doesn't.
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And you really do need help through the process because I know people that have
40:20
been divorced for a couple years and they're never close to being healed.
40:24
I know guys that have been divorced for four to five years and then you try
40:28
to date them and they're still broken.
40:30
And all they do is complain about their exes and they don't have any forward
40:34
thought moving forward.
40:35
And they're so broken, they don't even want to get married ever again because
40:39
they feel like everyone's the same. And that's not healed. That's not a healed person.
40:45
If you do that, That's here.
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That, you know, is a good example of someone who hasn't gone through the healing process.
40:54
I did date a guy that was still broken. He complains about his ex all the time.
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And he brings up that he doesn't want to get married again because he thinks all women are the same.
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That's not somebody who's healed. And he's been divorced for four or five years
41:07
and still focusing on the past that much. And it's just not worth the time.
41:11
I think probably 60 to 70 percent of the dating pool is not healed.
41:15
You got a big job ahead of you because most people, they don't heal right.
41:19
Then they bring all their stuff to the next relationship and then it ends miserably
41:23
and they blame the other person, but they should have fixed themselves first.
41:27
Don't you think people who own those dating app, maybe they use that dating app to heal them?
41:32
Yeah, but that's the thing is like when I was dating that one guy,
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I didn't want to be his therapist.
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I wasn't there for me to fix him.
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I mean, that's I got in trouble trying to fix a person before.
41:44
I don't want to fix anybody now.
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I'm there not to heal someone. My job is to love them, not to fix them.
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And if they can't do the inner work, I can't do anything for them.
41:54
Now, I would support my partner when they go through troubling times,
41:58
but I really think they need to get professional help.
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I really do. It's so funny that you talk about men in the dating pool and internet
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dating and stuff like that,
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because I find that there's a lot of men who are unhealed around or projecting
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into the next conversation about expectations and what they want.
42:20
And they're withdrawn a lot of the times and or just not really present with
42:26
the person that they're actually talking to.
42:28
They're worried about recreating something from their past because they haven't healed their past.
42:33
So they're projecting onto you or me or whoever they're dating because they
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haven't done their own inner work around what is present for them now and all this projection.
42:46
And they think that you're just like their ex. And I think that's why there's
42:51
so many people in situationships that don't want to commit, that just want to
42:54
be friends with benefits, that don't want to go deep and be vulnerable and open.
42:58
I understand they've been hurt before and I get it.
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But you can't be in a relationship unless you can be open and vulnerable.
43:05
It's part of a relationship.
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I'm willing because I've healed to get vulnerable and open in a relationship.
43:11
I probably get too open and too vulnerable too early.
43:14
That's probably one of my things. But I'm okay because I still have boundaries to protect myself.
43:19
But I think that people don't get there ever when they get damaged to a certain level.
43:25
And then they don't really feel love like they truly could. They don't fall.
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And the falling is the funnest part.
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The really loving someone and getting love back, that's the funnest part.
43:36
And I think people forgot that.
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And they're just so about protecting themselves that they don't get to experience it anymore.
43:44
I think it's crazy because when I open myself and be vulnerable with a man on
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a dating website, half the time either they ghost you or they're like projecting
43:57
that I'm going to be something like their ex.
43:59
So it's so crazy to me how there's a lot of wounded men in the world that have not done their work.
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I don't want to generalize because that's not fair. It's not fair to say that all men are unhealed.
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I do want to say that there's a lot of boys who are in men's bodies and have
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one thing on their mind and are ready to go from zero to 60 with no attachment.
44:24
And I know for this particular being, as a woman who's evolved,
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I need you to be able to communicate in a clear and loving way and be able to
44:33
show up and have conversations before I'm even like that's attractive. I'm attracted to...
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You physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, all of it.
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Because for me, I need the whole package.
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I'm not like, it's nice if you look pretty, but if you can't talk to me and
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have like a deep, meaningful conversation, deuces.
44:54
Yes, that's what a high value woman is, though.
44:57
Someone that can feel deeper and truly love someone. And you're a high value woman.
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And men keep going for these women
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that are shallow or fake or plastic or Barbie doll that has no depth.
45:10
And then they wonder why they get hurt. It's because they keep going for these
45:14
low value women that don't, that a lot of times they have been broken and they haven't healed.
45:19
And I did talk to one man once and he told me that one of the things he keeps
45:24
seeing, he's gone on a lot of first dates.
45:26
And he said that the women, they lost their identity and they feel like they
45:31
need to find their identity in men and not in themselves.
45:35
And they don't realize they need to go inward before they even start dating.
45:39
And if they don't fix themselves, what do you have to bring to the table with
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a high value man? You don't really have anything to bring.
45:46
Because a high value man doesn't want the fakeness. He doesn't want the superficiality.
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He wants a woman that's going to show up that's emotionally mature and emotionally available. Right.
45:55
Which brings us back to why you need an energy healer to work on your identity
46:00
and recognize that like you are a high value woman underneath it all.
46:05
And you told me that when you were 20, you had it going on and that you really
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had this strong, empowered sense of self and in the marriage had lost that part
46:16
of yourself because of the ways in which you had to play it small.
46:19
And so it's really relearning the depths of who we are as the essence of who
46:26
we are and unlocking the destructive patterns that were created through life and people,
46:33
whether they intentionally or unintentionally wounded us.
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I think that that's where this healing journey is.
46:41
It's about spiritual growth and looking back into the history of our first,
46:46
you know, eight years of life and recognizing those very impactful relationships
46:51
that had, whether they meant to or not.
46:54
Created belief systems within us that impacted who we are and how we think.
46:59
Yeah, and I think it helps us because you get to know yourself then.
47:03
And when you get to know yourself, you actually can then find exactly what you're
47:08
looking for in a partner.
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You know, there are a lot of women that are fine being by themselves, and I applaud that.
47:13
But I do want to love again because I have a big heart.
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I don't know if I will in this lifetime because I'm not going to settle for
47:21
anything that's not right for me.
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But I'm open to it and I'm vulnerable.
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I'm not so vulnerable that I get stomped on.
47:31
I do have boundaries and I do have walls. But I don't think I would be able
47:35
to even get there because I remember telling you in the very beginning,
47:37
I don't think I'll be able to trust anyone ever again.
47:40
And I've trusted a couple guys. Now, a couple of them have let me down,
47:44
but I have trusted and I've been open to believing them.
47:48
I realized that there is a person out there for me, even though I haven't found one yet.
47:53
I just have such a faith because if I have this much love to give,
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somebody else has that much love to give as well. And that's my belief.
47:59
There's got to be a man out there. It has to. It has to be.
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There has to. It's a reciprocal relationship, right? That's what I'm looking
48:06
for. And I think women that have big hearts, if they don't heal,
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they're doing a disservice to themselves and their future.
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100%. I agree with that.
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Women have such a divine feminine quality that we could heal the whole world
48:22
if we just allowed ourselves to open up and be vulnerable and to love again.
48:27
Because most women are all about love.
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Most women have such a caring spirit and soul.
48:33
And that's what attracts men. Honestly, that is truly what attracts men.
48:37
The women that are vindictive and manipulative and game players,
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men don't want that long term.
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They might play with it for a little bit, but that's not what they're looking for.
48:46
Men truly want the supportive partner, the person that gives them love,
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that gives them joy, that makes them happy without the anxiety and the stress.
48:54
And women bring men peace. And the right man should bring a woman peace, too. Absolutely.
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I always believe there's always someone for someone. I believe. I know.
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I have faith. I have complete faith. And whether I find them or not, that's whatever.
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But I'm not changing who I am to fit someone else's mold.
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And a lot of women, when they don't have an identity, they change who they are
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to fit someone else's mold. And that's not healing.
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An energy healer will walk you through that. They'll take you through those
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steps. They'll help you detach.
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I remember we were detaching cords from me and my ex for a long time.
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There are a lot of cords. In fact, there's probably still some there.
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I mean, we still have a lot of cords, especially when you're with someone for a long period of time.
49:36
And the energy healer, you don't have to be married to use an energy healer.
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You may have really put yourself out there in just a relationship, a deep relationship.
49:44
Maybe you were with somebody for a couple years and you thought they were the
49:47
one and they destroyed you. But the reality is you allowed it to happen.
49:52
If you were serious, we allow people to destroy us because we weren't strong
49:55
enough inside to fight back.
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And now you have the ability to go and like work on the parts of you that allows
50:04
someone to destroy you because I'm still vulnerable and I'm still loving.
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But when I get disappointed by someone, it doesn't destroy me anymore.
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It doesn't knock me on my butt.
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I mean, I can move on if it's just not the right fit. I just believe God has
50:18
a better plan for me out there. And I just say next.
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And you know what? I wish everybody on their path to find who they want.
50:26
But if they're not the right one, that's OK.
50:28
Maybe they'll find someone else that fits their current situation or their current
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aura or level where they're at.
50:34
Everybody fights with somebody all the time. And you do a lot with chakras.
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Let's kind of, I know we're wrapping things up, but let's talk a little bit
50:41
about chakras and the different chakras and how they play into what you have to do to heal. So...
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The chakra system is basically built, there are seven major chakras.
50:53
The first chakra is about trust and how we have like a foundational like trust
50:58
within ourselves and how we trust others.
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And there's different layers of the aura, which then impact the healing experience.
51:06
And that's the root chakra, right? That's the root chakra.
51:10
With women, a lot of times there's disconnection in the third chakra because
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it's how we have, how are we with our self-esteem,
51:19
self-worth, gut instincts, being able to like really understand our personal
51:24
power and how we like accept ourselves and how others view us.
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You know, like the judgment of how we allow what other people think of us to impact,
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you know, and learning to like really remove that from the system so that you
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can be authentically you and walk in the world so that you're not people pleasing
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or overgiving or, you know,
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minimizing or denying what you think about or care about so that the other person is happy.
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A lot of times women tend to, the fifth chakra, lose their voice or give in
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to what other people want in order to make them happy rather than standing in
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your own true power and recognizing that doesn't work for me any longer.
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And really like having that meaningful relationship when you can be fully aligned
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and clear in your chakra system,
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that heart, you know, like giving from a place of boundaried love and not over
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giving where you're giving yourself away, right?
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Because the heart is about love, generosity, compassion.
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And so when it's in alignment or in balance, we are...
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In flow. But if it's out of balance, or we're missing a piece of it,
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a lot of times we feel resentful or discouraged or playing it small.
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And so, I mean, those are just a few examples of what the chakra system can
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uncover on a psychological level, on an emotional level.
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So as you work through these like imbalances in the chakra system,
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it helps with moving through all of those aspects of ourselves.
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And then some, there's more. And there's, I learned at Miraval,
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there's different foods that help as well with chakras, kind of the different
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colors of foods. If you eat different foods, they help heal parts of your chakra.
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And I also learned that anger, if you don't let it out, you store it in your
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liver. Learned that one.
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I know that one. So I think that people develop diseases because they don't heal their energy.
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And it's not just healing your mindset, it's also healing your body.
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And if you don't heal yourself, it's why I think a lot of people,
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they go through a divorce and then they get an illness because it's stressful
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and you develop a disease in your body. It manifests based off of the stress
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from the divorce and the energy healing.
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It helps heal your body and make so you don't get diseases.
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And when you do have a disease, the energy healer helps you rid your body of that disease as well.
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So people need to really look at this whole body.
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I know a lot of people are getting into frequency now and frequency healing
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and sound, and that's all part of energy healing as well.
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Energy healings help with dis-eases, but it's also a dis-ease in your body.
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So on a physical level, it's manifesting as a disease.
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On an energetic level, it's dis-ease in your emotional chakra system.
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It shows up in you know, unmanifested anger in the liver and or,
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you know, anxiety in the heart.
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Anxiety is now really.
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Impacting our world in such a big way.
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And a lot of it has to do with the overstimulation of our environments.
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If you're on a screen a majority of the time, you're not giving your nervous
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system enough time to downgrade or like calm down because we're being bombarded
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in so many different ways.
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And that creates an anxiety level because we're overstimulated all the time.
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And so that dis-ease has to do with finding a way to create calm in your system
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to slow down enough to be able to recognize there is something amiss. Yeah.
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I see. Do you have any other questions, Diva Cat?
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No. Well, I think we covered it all. At least we gave people a good idea about
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what you offer and what you do.
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We're going to actually put your website link in the description of our podcast. Absolutely.
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I think that's a great note to end on. And I think if you actually do go through the healing process.
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This is just another way to help you heal and help you heal quickly.
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The longer I think it takes, the longer likely you're going to get stuck.
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So the faster you can do it, the better.
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So I want to thank you so much, Catherine, for coming on and giving us your
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time, your valuable time today.
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I truly appreciate that. And hopefully some people learn some things today.
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Yeah, we all need to learn something. We all need to learn, yeah? Absolutely.
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To work with an energy healer, you just need an open mind, willingness and being
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willing to be honest with yourself so that you can move through the emotions,
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not go over it, not go under it, but really allow yourself to be present in it.
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Well, thank you, Diva Catherine. This is Diva Mia signing off.
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This is Diva Cat. Thank you so much. You guys have a wonderful week. Thank you.
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