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Audrina Patridge of The Hills · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, it is a Lala mother. Ethan Kent't We're
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  Speaker 1: back baby. I got Audrina Patridge on the podcast today.
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  Speaker 1: You guys gave me all the feedback in the world
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  Speaker 1: last episode, because Justin and I were like, what do
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  Speaker 1: I want to see it on the podcast? Like what
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  Speaker 1: do you want to listen to? And my little give
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  Speaker 1: them give them Lala squad. They came through. They did.
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  Speaker 2: You guys did come through.
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  Speaker 3: We got so much feedback and I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 3: sit down with Lalla and go through it all and
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  Speaker 3: maybe we'll do it on the podcast even I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to, like after this episode, next week's episode,
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  Speaker 1: let's go through like all all of them. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys even have another let's say five days
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  Speaker 3: to be safe. If you didn't give feedback, you might
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  Speaker 3: as well, because we're going to go through as much
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  Speaker 3: of it as we can right on next Yeah. And
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  Speaker 3: so what I've been seeing the most is DM just
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  Speaker 3: DM give them La La podcast, and that's how we're.
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  Speaker 1: Going to go through it. Well. The whole point of
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  Speaker 1: like the rebrand of the podcast was like I want
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  Speaker 1: my listeners to be heard like it's a platform where
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's be open and honest and like create
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  Speaker 1: this little community of you know, people who are going
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  Speaker 1: through the ups and downs of life. And I think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my my guests also have to reflect that.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, of course, of course, you
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  Speaker 1: know we we I originally came into this podcast from
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  Speaker 1: the jump of like, what's the format. There is no format, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be bumping gums and like have great
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  Speaker 1: guests on. But you know, I want I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what my listeners digm. You know, it's the whole reason,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said in the episode with my brother, without
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  Speaker 1: my listeners, without my friends, my people, I'm just freaking
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  Speaker 1: talking to myself in a microphone, wasting a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of time. Like it's got to be productive. I like
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  Speaker 1: things that are not productive in my life they gotta go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening to Chris Medina in the sense where he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta burn bridges in your life. Yeah, whatever that means.
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  Speaker 1: And now if it's like it's not productive, it's not
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  Speaker 1: serving me. You're bringing out aside of me that I
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  Speaker 1: don't like. Granted, my mom always says, like you're in
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  Speaker 1: charge of your own emotions. People can't make you feel
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  Speaker 1: a certain way, but you can allow them to make
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  Speaker 1: you feel a certain way. It's like, you know what, No,
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  Speaker 1: you're making me feel this way and I don't need
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  Speaker 1: it right, So give me the gasoline and a match,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm torching the bridge right.
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  Speaker 3: People always tell told me you are who you hang around,
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  Speaker 3: and I agree with that fifty percent, and I disagree.
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  Speaker 3: But I did notice when I would hang around on
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  Speaker 3: friends who were always complaining, always talking shit, always bitching,
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  Speaker 3: I felt myself starting to do that and get in
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  Speaker 3: a very very negative space. And then my friends who
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  Speaker 3: were like positive and whatever, on the up and up
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  Speaker 3: and always like going after what they wanted and their goals,
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  Speaker 3: I felt myself being more that way. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if I agree with it necessarily because my childhood
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  Speaker 3: best friend she's like my ride or die and we're
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  Speaker 3: completely different. But still I'm like, we're different, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't agree with.
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  Speaker 2: It in that sense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like her, she's not like me, but we're
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  Speaker 3: still best friend totally. Yeah, But I do think in
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  Speaker 3: some certain circumstances it happens, like do you hang out
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  Speaker 3: with people that bring you down and or are negative,
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  Speaker 3: and then you feel like you get negative or no,
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  Speaker 3: You're like I can be around that person and I'm myself.
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  Speaker 1: No. There are definitely people I've been around where I
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  Speaker 1: leave and I go home and I'm like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: so heavy, Where's my giant bundle of sage? Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But as I've gotten older, I have pulled away from
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  Speaker 1: people who make me feel that way. But like yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: yesterday was a throwaway day for me, Okay, tell tell
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  Speaker 1: me about thatll. I just like I woke up and
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  Speaker 1: you know, my mom was in Newport and I had
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  Speaker 1: to film later, so I had like a full day
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  Speaker 1: and you know, you had things that I needed to
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  Speaker 1: get done, and I was like, today, it's just it
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  Speaker 1: ain't hidden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I literally hot boxed my bathroom with sage, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I opened the door and looked back into the
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  Speaker 1: bathroom and it was just smoke. Because I have this
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  Speaker 1: huge someone I think it was like, uh, someone sent me. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what it was. At the book signing,
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  Speaker 1: someone gave me tober, someone gave me a huge bundle
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  Speaker 1: of stage. I mean, I can't even imagine what it
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  Speaker 1: cost them. It was so sweet, but I burned that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I manifested, I prayed, I you know, did my whole
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  Speaker 1: thing with God in the universe that I so often
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  Speaker 1: do when I'm feeling like, Okay, we're going down the
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  Speaker 1: fucking rabbit soul. We rather to pull ourselves together. And
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  Speaker 1: after I did that whole thing, you know, I lit
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  Speaker 1: my stage and I'm like, you know, saying my little prayer,
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  Speaker 1: manifesting whatever. And then I listened to Break my Soul
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  Speaker 1: by Beyonce on repeat and was just like holding my stage. Yes, motherfucker,
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  Speaker 1: No one is breaking me. Yes, hell no. Because I
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  Speaker 1: so often preach like, if our minds are strong enough
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  Speaker 1: to take us to a dark place, they're certainly strong
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  Speaker 1: enough to get us out of that place. Now, however,
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  Speaker 1: I am by no means saying that people shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: on medication if they're suffering from depression or anxiety, Like
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  Speaker 1: science is incredible and you should go to a doctor.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe in therapists and all of these things.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm certainly not saying like I have to do
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  Speaker 1: is talk yourself out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That is not, let me repeat, that is not what
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  Speaker 1: I am saying, Right, but in those moments where you're
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  Speaker 1: going there, I think we should empower ourselves to say
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  Speaker 1: we're not going here. I won't allow it. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: taking a moment to myself and I'm gonna do what
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  Speaker 1: I need to do to connect with something or someone
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  Speaker 1: greater than me. And I'm gonna put on Beyonce and
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  Speaker 1: I'm fucking taking on the rest of the day. Right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you meant by throwaway day, but
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  Speaker 3: I think those days.
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  Speaker 1: Are very important.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's why I can on a Sunday tell Kyle, like, literally,
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  Speaker 3: I'm waking up and I'm bingch watching TV until five PM.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take a break and take Margo on a few walks.
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  Speaker 1: But like, to me, that is just my.
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  Speaker 3: Version of mental health sometimes, and like those days are
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  Speaker 3: just as important as the days I wake up at
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  Speaker 3: like four thirty am and I'm like, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 3: to the gym and then I'm gonna get right and
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  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna go to work and then.
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  Speaker 1: I like those are just as important. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think that in the world, like in our society in America,
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  Speaker 1: where we're like it's so instilled in us that hustle
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  Speaker 1: harder wake up, work until the sun goes down, and
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  Speaker 1: then all you can sleep when you're dead. Make that money,
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  Speaker 1: and it becomes like you go to other places and
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  Speaker 1: they have like two hour lunch breaks and then it's
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  Speaker 1: time for nap, like they really just enjoy life. And
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  Speaker 1: take take that as like I'm not productive in what
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  Speaker 1: I need to get done if I'm not feeling centered
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  Speaker 1: and well rested, Like America is a different type of grind.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like I can have a day that's a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday and feel no guilt, you know, just kicking it.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're taking me on a freaking you know, Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's a throwayday, then then I struggle
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  Speaker 1: with the guilt of like you should be hustling. I
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  Speaker 1: should be making money. You should you know. And it's
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  Speaker 1: just because that's the world.
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  Speaker 3: That we have been brought up in, I know, and
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  Speaker 3: it's all over social media if you're and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think there's anything. I think there's few things that are
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  Speaker 3: more damaging than the quote unquote no days off mindset.
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  Speaker 3: And if that means like of work, working out, literally anything,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's could be one of the most damaging
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  Speaker 3: things mindsets when like no rest, no days off. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's very damaging. First so too, so I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: you took.
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  Speaker 1: But even on social media, yeah, people are you know
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  Speaker 1: posting it's like, oh today you're resting today by the pool. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm resting harder in the Amalfi Coast on a yacht
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  Speaker 1: and right what now the fuck? I can't even rest
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  Speaker 1: without feeling, you know, you're really like someone's resting harder
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  Speaker 1: than me.
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  Speaker 3: It's literally the summer of everyone in Europe, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: what do you do for a living, because I'm like
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  Speaker 3: from college.
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  Speaker 1: How are you spending your summers in Italy? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I was talking to Katie the other day
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  Speaker 1: and you know, because season four it was like I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to Italy on a modeling trip. Yeah, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: five six, you know, you know, and I had like
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like I was one of those girls who
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  Speaker 1: was always on like amazing vacations. But truth be told,
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  Speaker 1: I have never been on like a really extravagant vacation
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't pay for. Like with my ex. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: we we went on really beautiful trips, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like the Instagram like quote unquote models that you see now,
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  Speaker 1: like the influencers. Yes, And I was talking to Katie
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I said that I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was just a fun bitch to be around, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why they were inviting me. But I'm sure if
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  Speaker 1: I would have gone, maybe they would have expected me
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  Speaker 1: to bust it wide open or like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was. I still am. I'm like very
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm aware, but like I'm naive when comes
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  Speaker 1: to like what people expect from me, right, or like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know when people are on drugs. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I do now, yes, but like I just didn't surround
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  Speaker 1: myself with people like that. Yeah, So when someone was like,
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  Speaker 1: want to go to Italy, I was just like fun.
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  Speaker 3: We had a friend once who would always tell us
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  Speaker 3: whenever we got in those situations. She would go, no,
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  Speaker 3: this is a college friend. No grown man wants to
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  Speaker 3: be your friend, Like, because we had I had friends
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  Speaker 3: who would be like, but he's just so nice and
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  Speaker 3: he wants to take me to wherever. And she would
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  Speaker 3: always be like, no grown man wants to be your friend.
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  Speaker 3: Just remind yourself of that.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's a good point. I mean yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that might not be true, but it's a
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  Speaker 1: few and far between that you're going to find the
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  Speaker 1: older rich man who's like, you know what, I enjoy
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  Speaker 1: your company, Yeah, come and hang out. Yeah you're like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: And if you find that person, good on yet, you know,
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  Speaker 1: good for you? Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever go to that Italy trip that you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about on season four?
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  Speaker 2: When?
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  Speaker 1: No, you didn't, No, because I was slutshamed. It was
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  Speaker 1: felt so bad that I was like, I'm going home
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  Speaker 1: to Utah instead.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, my mom, No, So you didn't after all
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  Speaker 3: of that, you didn't even go after all that skank shaman.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I went back to the beehiveste Damn damn no.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was wait the row back memory. I
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  Speaker 1: know that was a little, a little tangent, but spoiler alert,
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  Speaker 1: some people love those.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people love those. When you go on tangents,
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  Speaker 3: spoiler alert for next week.
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  Speaker 1: They want more Lalla. We well the podcast is give
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  Speaker 1: them Lala.
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  Speaker 3: I know, you know, yes, they want all Lalla that
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: people love Lalla and again haven't been through them. All
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  Speaker 3: excited to go through them, all the messages, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's very much people. I think what I've seen being like,
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  Speaker 3: we love it when you talk about ocean and all
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But can I tell you, Jess, it's still even though
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing what I've been doing for a while,
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  Speaker 1: it's still perplexing to me that people give a shit
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  Speaker 1: about me. Like I constantly am like why, And you know,
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  Speaker 1: on tour or with the podcast, I was, I'm always
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  Speaker 1: obsessing over who's my guest? Who's my guest? Yes? And
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  Speaker 1: I forget like my people are coming to support me,
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  Speaker 1: like they don't care about I know the guest is,
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  Speaker 1: I tends maybe they do. I don't know. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the guest is like the cherry on top,
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  Speaker 1: But I do still feel like this, like bitch from Utah,
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  Speaker 1: like why do people give a damn about me?
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  Speaker 3: I hear you, But you were exactly right when you
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  Speaker 3: said the guest is the cherry on top. I think
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  Speaker 3: a majority of the time, but like you have to
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  Speaker 3: remember you're the ice.
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  Speaker 1: Cream and the whip cream. Oh, I love it all
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  Speaker 1: of the guests. Is that the right word metaphor? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I should know well because in an interview
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  Speaker 1: I kept using the word analogy and I think it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't analogy, it was a metaphor. What were you saying
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  Speaker 1: analogy about? I was talking about my life as a puzzle,
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  Speaker 1: and then I considered myself butter and my beef with
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  Speaker 1: Schwartz with a microwave. I don't fucking know what. It
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  Speaker 1: made zero sense, but I just rolled with it. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I kept saying strange analogy, and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that that's the right word.
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  Speaker 1: I'm literally I think a metaphor is when you take
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  Speaker 1: something that's happening, yeah, and use like a puzzle. Yes, metaphor,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's it. To an analogy, I think is
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  Speaker 1: me taking something I'm going through and then being like, Jess,
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  Speaker 1: it would be like you doing this. I think so too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I completely used the word. Well now you're using it.
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  Speaker 1: They ran us weekly and I read it and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I have to stop reading. I sound like
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  Speaker 1: such an idiot. It's confusing.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go to college, and I did, and I
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  Speaker 3: still don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So there were so many times in school where like
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was a bad tester. Yeah, and so
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  Speaker 1: I'd roll up on my teacher and I'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: here's the deal. I was a fucking hustler since day one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, can I instead write an eight page paper
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  Speaker 1: on why I'm bad at test taking? Would they let you? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Stop?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there were a couple teachers that did let me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I also wrote a paper on
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  Speaker 1: why it was so hard for me to understand how
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  Speaker 1: to learn a ruler. You cannot grasp the ruler. See
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  Speaker 1: right now, I'm like, it's got to be either.
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  Speaker 3: To the inch or a half, like no, you know
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense, like the and three eighths like having
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  Speaker 3: to be so.
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  Speaker 1: So then can you tell time on a is it
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  Speaker 1: called an analog clock?
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell?
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  Speaker 1: You can? I can totally. Sometimes it's in between the
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  Speaker 1: time thing. Yeah, but that's easy because it's the fives
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  Speaker 1: and then in between they say the ones.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know how many I saw TikTok about them
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  Speaker 3: going up to gen Z people or even like people
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  Speaker 3: in their twenties and saying showing them a clock, like
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  Speaker 3: ninety percent were like I have no idea what that means.
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  Speaker 1: And cursive is a lost art. Okay, anyway, I'm so
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  Speaker 1: good at cursive. By the way, you because we had
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  Speaker 1: to we had to. I also had to learn what
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  Speaker 1: was the penmanship called calligraphy, calligraphy. I had to learn
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  Speaker 1: how to do calligraphy in school. They were like, okay, my,
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  Speaker 1: have your moms take you to fred Meyer. That was
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  Speaker 1: like the local little grocery store that had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this arts and crafts. Obviously we're from Utah, always in
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  Speaker 1: arts and craft section no matter where you go. And
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  Speaker 1: we had to get like calligraphy pens.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know people pay like good money for those classes. Now,
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  Speaker 3: like I was gonna pay for I didn't learn calligraphy.
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  Speaker 1: What if you rolled up day one of your interview
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  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, you have to write everything in calligraphy,
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  Speaker 1: No phones, no Google calendar, caligraphy only.
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  Speaker 3: I would think that it was so funny, And Hilaria said,
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  Speaker 3: I would take that so seriously.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, yes, you also have to wear my
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  Speaker 1: face on all your clothing. You have a uniform. You
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  Speaker 1: would have thought I was insane. I would have laughed,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing my face enough for the both of us exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even worry about it. All right, So there's our tangent.
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  Speaker 1: There's the intro. I'm excited to have Audrena on, So
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  Speaker 1: stick with me, my little sexy muffins, because when we
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: come back, we have like an og of reality TV.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome, We'll be right back. We are back, and
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  Speaker 1: I am so excited about this guest. You guys know
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  Speaker 1: her obviously. Her name is Audrina Patridge. Hello, my love.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, I'm so happy to be on your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you on my podcast. You're
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  Speaker 1: like the og of reality television.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like before I even started
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  Speaker 2: reality I didn't really know what to compare it to,
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  Speaker 2: aside from like the Jessica Simpson and Nicholaschey Show, But that, right,
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  Speaker 2: I think that was it at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean the reality TV world. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just remember like growing up and having the real.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: World, real world, that's right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: But your show was like where you don't all live
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in one house together, and it was just, I'm sure
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: very strange for you to have cameras on you following
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: your every move at the age of what you were nineteen.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Almost nineteen when I started.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Like barely nineteen, and we filmed a full year before
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the producers kind of decided. I guess like how we
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: all fit in with each other and what they wanted
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to show because we were all kind of getting used
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to the cameras. I know, Lauren and Heidi had experience,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: but Whitney and I did not, So we were trying
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to figure out how we all fit.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: In right, how to like what your place is, what
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: your role is. It's so funny because I was having
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a conversation with some one. Oh it was Jeff Lewis yesterday.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: He was on a reality TV show. There's so many
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: people who have such strong personalities and the second you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: throw them into like a reality TV space, they freeze up.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Did you find that happen to you?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I think I did in the beginning, because I was
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: going on auditions for modeling and doing little acting things
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and got gigs here and there for music videos and
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: commercials and stuff. But the whole reality side of it,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like there's three cameras around you, you have all these
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: people staring at you while you're trying to go on
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a date, and you're like, going on a date for
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the first time is bad enough, and then you add
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: all all these other layers. It was tough. You freeze up.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That part scares me because I have yet to like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: do a date on camera, like a new date, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: because cameras always want to capture the first date because
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it's awkward, and then you add the cameras.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: It's it is, it's really awkward. But I feel like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: we at this point, you know, were kind of seasoned, right,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and I feel like all these new guys I remember,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: they would totally freeze up, and it's like you can't
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: really get to know someone with all these cameras. But
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: then you get the the alcohol flowing, and sometimes that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: loosens them up or takes the edge off. But really
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's just it's it's a whole different world. People have
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: no idea until they're thrown in front of a camera.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and you can't explain it to people. I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: can watch reality TV as a viewer, but also because
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I've been a part of it. At the end of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the day, like you know, moments that I've had where
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I'm mortified, I have to step into that viewer perspective
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and go, but you made great TV.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing too, even with the last season
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of The Hills that we just did, I respect the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: entertainment value side of things. So whenever you need to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: kind of improvs a scene to make it more dramatic
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: or more interesting because it's too boring. You step it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: up and you kind of have to. And that's why
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: sometimes the producers would step in and they're like Adrina,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: like you're out of three. Take it to a ten,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I need tears, or I need this, or go in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: there and say this and stir the pot. It's like, okay, let's.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Do it right. Because even though it is a reality
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: like it is real life, yeah, it is a produced
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: show because it's for entertainment, so you definitely do have
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: those moments of a producer stepping in and being like
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what are we doing?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is boring. No one's gonna want to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: watch this. You guys step it up.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued by you because you know reality TV
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: obviously now a lot of people say that it's like oversaturated,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: like everyone and their dog can get a show based
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: on their life. Do I agree with that? Absolutely? Not yea.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And not every reality show is iconic. You are from
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: an iconic reality television show and you have managed to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: make yourself a household name. Is that strange for you?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: You know? I feel like it was in the beginning
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: because it was so surreal, and I had these girls
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: coming up to me giving me hugs and crying and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: shaking and I'm just staring at me and I was like,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a human, Like, hi, normal too, It's just because
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm on TV. But then I would also have older
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: women that would watch it and come up and give
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: me advice like I was their granddaughter or their niece
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: or something about Justin and I'm like, all right, first off,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you don't know everything, but thank you. I appreciate your advice.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it was so crazy, it's so weird.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It is crazy. And then but you almost have to
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: be grateful for those people because they're the loyal fans
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: who are watching every single episode every time you come
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: out with a product or like you you have your
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: book coming out, by the way, congratulations, thank you. That
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is not easy. Did you enjoy the writing process.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it was probably a year and a half. It was.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It was hard. There was days where you know, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: would get on the phone with the ghost Rider Jen.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He was amazing. She's almost like a therapist, and I
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: would break down crying. I'm like, I don't think I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: could go. I blocked so much of my life out
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and I just want to move forward. Like I never
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: thought i'd have to go back and dig and like
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: bring those emotions back to the purpose. So that for
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: me was very therapeutic. It was healing in a way
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: because now I can read it and I'm okay to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: talk about it. I'm beyond that point now where it's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like I'm finally in a good place.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: How did you come up with the title of your book?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Because me, I was sitting there racking my brain and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: then it was just give them alack like everything else.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I need to read your book too.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I did not have a name. I just kind of
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: started basically my book. I really wanted to emphasize everybody
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: has the power to choose. When you wake up, you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: have a choice whether you want to have a good
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: day a bad day. The decisions you make in your
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: life lead to certain consequences that you know you just
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: have to deal with that time. So a big part
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: of the book and what I wanted to make a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: point of was the power to choose. So because I
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: kept talking about that so much and the choices I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: made in my life that led me to all these
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: different paths and you know the choices I could have made,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: but I took this direction instead. It all we were
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: all talking about it, and it's like they said, Adrina,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you're talking about your choices so much and where you've
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: gone in your life, and we were like, well, choices
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and then to the hills and back again.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's an amazing title.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I know that you have had rough patches in your life,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: one of which was obviously your marriage, because I'm kind
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: of in that zone too, and I start thinking about
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: my choices and then I look at my daughter, which
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you have a daughter, and I'm like, this is why
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I made every Like the universe had me make all
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of these choices to lead me to this person, right
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: hereat Do you believe that?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I completely believe that, because if I didn't meet my
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: ex husband and go through what I did, I went
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: through a lot off and on for a long time,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but it was all for my daughter because she was
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: meant to be here and I love her so much.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you get it too. It's like, of course,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it's like a whole new love that you never knew
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that you could love someone so much. And at the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: end of the day, it's like, yeah, it was all
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: worth it because I have her and now we're good
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and she's happy, and I made the right decision leaving,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and I'm happy with my choices.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: We're back to choices and how old? How old is
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: your daughter? And what's her name?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Her name's Kira. She'll be six in June.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: That is such a fun age.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Every year it gets so much
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: more fun and they become their own little people and
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: their personality and all the different characteristics they have, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: just like their outlook on life. You know, the other day,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: she asked me a lot of questions about food. So,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you know, if we're making a ham sandwich, she's like, well,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: what meat is that from a hamster? And I'm like, no,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we're not eating hamster. It's from a pig. And she's like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: why isn't it called a pig sandwich? You know, like
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: all these little thoughts.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And they're very valid too, Yeah, questions we should all
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: be asking. How did you go through? So I remember
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: going through doing my book and they were like, send
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the chapters and the breakdown of each one, and I'm like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: oh my god, how do I do that? When you
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: went through how many chapters? You were going to put
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in and which one, like what stories each chapter would
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: consist of. Was there a lot of stuff that you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: were like, this isn't going to make the cut, Like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: this may be important to me, but it may not
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: write with a reader.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we went through so many things, and we took
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: so much out and added different things and took chapters out.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Especially after doing audio and reading it out loud, it
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: changes everything. So we even had to change some things
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: around and there because it just didn't sound right reading
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: it out loud, right, so crazy?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Did you do that too? Yes? In fact, so you
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: mentioned your ghostwriter and I said this on tour. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: spoke about a ghostwriter, and the tour manager was like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: they were not understanding what that meant. So I just
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: want to put this out there for our listeners. Audrena
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: has a book. I have a book. Many people have
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: a book. The reason for the ghostwriter is Audrena wrote
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: her book. I wrote mine, But we are not writers.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to format a book for the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: life of me. Okay, So that's where the ghostwriter steps in.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: They format your book, they make it a book, which
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you and I, obviously I don't do for a living.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I did not go to school to learn that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Right, So we it's all of what we wrote, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: then they formatted it. So there's like the writing for dummies,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: which I took the crash course.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the chapters like you were saying, But there was
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff too where I didn't necessarily want
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to indulge about, like I don't.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Want to write.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'd rather be more vague about this.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go there. And she's like Audrina
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: because they do their research and they're like, this is
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: what's out there. Because for a lot of the times
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: in the past and the media, I bit my tongue
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: all the time. I never really stuck up for myself
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: or cleared my name or said the truth. I was like, whatever,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Like the people that matter know the truth. If they
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: want to think that, I don't care, you know. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: think it was also from being on reality TV so long,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you just start not caring because nobody's really ever gonna
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: know the truth, or if they do, they might not
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: believe you. But in this sense, this was my op
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: opportunity to clear the air on what's been out there
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and the truth.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That's so interesting that during the writing process. You were like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to dive into this, and someone had
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to tell you, like, this is your moment, because I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: actually had the opposite feeling. I was, this is my
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: one chance to really Now, looking back, a lot of
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the shit that I wrote about I probably would not
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: have written about. But I think I may be overshared.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean then, I'm sure your fans loved that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You know, they probably ate that up and wanted more.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I think they do, just like I think when your
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: book comes out, which is the end of July, people
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: are finally going to get an unedited version of you. Yes,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and that's what people crave. Yeah, And I.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Was so I was like, Okay, if I'm going to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: do this, I'm going to be open. I'm going to
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: be vulnerable. Here's my perspective. I'm not writing this book
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to put anyone down. It's not about talking about other
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: people and what they went through, what I thought of them.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: This is about me and the choices I made and
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: why and where it led me, and especially with my
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: marriage and what happened. There was a lot of gossip
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and rumors and you know, TMZ would get all the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: information from the court before I even knew what was happening,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and it was spread all over. So on top of that,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, like you get it. Like it's already hard
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: enough going through what you're going through, and to add
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: on top of that, like everybody's judgment and the media
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and the blogs and the press and just like putting
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: their two cents and when they they only know like
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a fourth of what really.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Went on, absolutely and they pick up the one thing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that is the smallest part of everything but makes the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: most incredible headline, and that is so frustrating.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So with this book, it's nice to be able
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to clear that up and set the records straight.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions about are you worried
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: about what your daughter will read? Do you worry about that?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That was something that was It's always on my mind
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: now and even with the Hills, you know, I was gosh,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, all in my twenties, I had no responsibilities.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't care. We went out every night. The last
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: thing you think of when you're twenty twenty one, twenty
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: two is what my kids are going to think of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: me one day? Or where is this show.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Going to lead? You know?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Right? But yeah, writing the book, I did have Kira
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: in mind, and the thing is all she asked to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: do when she's older is google my name, and she's
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: going to see a lot of random stuff that's not true.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: She's going to see some stuff that is true. It's
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: no secret that I was in a toxic relationship, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: it's all out there, so it's not a secret. But
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: at the same time, and I'm very honest with her
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: when she asked me questions and only giving her enough
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: information for her age and what she can handle. At
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the end of my book, I did write her a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: letter and a lot of it is about her and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: like being a strong woman and being okay to walk
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: away from a toxic situation and not forcing yourself to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: stay in it because you're a people pleaser or you
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: want to try to make things work, just because it's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like you have to do it's best for your child
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and for yourself too.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So, Kira, you said that they they develop their little personalities,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: right yeah, But I think they come exactly how like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they are who they are the second they pop out
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: of your cookie or however they come to the planet,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: right yes, Ocean, I'm like, I will do my best
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to teach her things. But that little girl will look
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: me dead in my eyes when I tell her not
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to do something, and the look is like, go fuck yourself.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they definitely come out with a personality. It's
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: just as they learn more words and know how to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: express their feelings and their thoughts, that's what it like.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Things come out of their mouth and you're like, what did.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You just say? Right?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: You say that?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: It really is. I said this over and over again
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: when I was in Utah because I was just like
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: in it being a mom. I wasn't working because I
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: was visiting family, and I was like, I just love
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: being a mom. Yeah, like it's just the best I know.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Do you want another?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yes? I want another. I don't know how that baby,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the next baby will get here, but that's the plan.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat. So we'll see. I do
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: want another one or two, but we'll see. You got
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to meet the right guys, you know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Or like, I don't need a guy at all, Send
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: me to the nearest sperm bank.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just get get a book and you get to
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: like choose, yes, who you want to have that baby with.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I guess shopping for a baby daddy. That sounds awesome.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And then I don't have to deal with them after
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: even better, what is your dating life right now?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Honestly, when I was on the show, I went on
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: that date with Sean Stewart, which was for the show,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that was only with cameras. But I haven't went on
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like a real date in a long time, probably three years,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: And what's the reasoning for that? Are you not ready?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I wasn't ready. I've went through so much healing and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: with Kira and just going through so much personally that
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: it wasn't in a headspace to give myself or my
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: mind or attention to someone else. It wouldn't be fair
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: for someone. But I mean I have went out and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I have flirted and met guys, but like I haven't
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: actually went on like a proper date or been in
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a relationship. Okay, but now I'm ready, Like I'm finally
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: at a good, peaceful place right now where I'm finally
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: open to it and I'm ready.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I think you're very smart. I'm in that zone, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I'm obviously very fresh into this like new single mom life,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm very passionate about the topic of single mothers.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: So you're doing a great job let me just tell
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you that. But I feel the same way. And I said,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything to give someone right now, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: everyone I said this on tour and everyone was like,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you have so much shit give. I was like, no, bitches,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I fucking know that. But yeah, if I have extra
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: time and energy, I want to place it into my
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: daughter or my existing relationships, not on someone new exactly.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And that's what I would always say. You know, I
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: had so many friends like you have to go meet
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: this guy, and I'd be like, I look at they
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: sell either picture and tell me about it. And I was like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: you know what, Like why am I gonna have to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: get a babysitter leave her to go on this date
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: where I know it's not going to go anywhere? For
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: what a free dinner? I can make myself food. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: could take myself out like, I don't care, it's fine.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: No, your outlook is like exactly like mine. But when
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: when you're in my or I'm in yours, like we
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: should go have a girl's night. That's easy. Yes, I
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: love girl time. So if you're still open to girl
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: time even though you're ready to date, I would love
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to take you out on a date.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Let's go on a date. I would love that. See
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: that's like fun and making genuine, like good friends that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: because I kind of have an idea what you're going
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: through and bend through it. So it's hard, you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and it's hard being a single mom, especially when you
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: do start dating. It's like this is all new that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I'm learning now, Like when do you introduce your child
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to this person? Or like you know, there's so many
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: things that run through my mind now where I'm like, Okay,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I have to really like read out all the guys
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: whoever I'm going to date, like they have to be
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: very special before I even introduce them to my daughter.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, It's like the stakes are so much higher
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: now and you're going to think I'm a whack job,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But I actually brought on a PI who I literally
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: if I I'm even just talking even though I'm not
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: ready to date exclusively, if I'm just welcoming a person
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: into like my atmosphere, I run a background check.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I actually that's smart because I don't Yeah, if you're
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: going to bring someone new that you don't know anything about,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you want to know who's around your child. Can you
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: trust them?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing from being on reality TV too.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: It's like your circle grows becomes so small, and then
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you do develop trust issues because at certain times you're like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: well do you really want to be my friend? Or
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: like there's so many blurred lines. And even dating on
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the Old Hills, you know, it's like I would get
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: guys that were hot and they'd be like, let's just
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: date on your show, and I was like, well, you're good.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Look you know, I'll go on a date with you.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So it becomes like, okay, you want to use me,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I'll use you, Like, come on the show, we'll go
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: on a date. And then that's the end of it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think dating in LA is hard enough
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as it is, even without cameras being on you. But
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I like that you developed that you scratch my back,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I'll scratch yours. It's like, well then I'll just parade
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: your fine ass on TV like a show pony.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Say it works for TV.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You did bring a lot of hot men around, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: will say.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, I tried. Yeah, there was one in particular.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I remember it was like I brought a lot of
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: models on male models like supermodels. They are very good looking,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but their intelligence level or right, we didn't have a
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: lot in common or any I don't know.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: See, I have to have substance. I got to be
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: able to go deep with you. I need to be
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: able to talk about the universe, even if you don't
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: agree with what I'm saying. Like, I have to be
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: able to like, I can't stay surfaced with anybody.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like get deep debate, like find out why you
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: believe in these things, because I'm open to hearing other
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: people's perspective. You know, I'm not just till I'm not
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: closed off, but it's interesting to like to be able
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to go back and forth and talk.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I have to ask you about Justin, Bobby. Where
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: is he in the world these days? Do you even
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: know Justin?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: He lives down here in Orange County?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Are you still friends?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: The last well, he had a show, I think it
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: was either at the end of last year, I don't know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: like maybe six months ago in Huntington. So I went
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to a show. And then it was his fortieth in March,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and I think he went to Vegas with all the
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: guys and then he was going to go to Tuloom.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: We talked a little bit after that and then I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: haven't heard from him in the last couple months.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Was that a toxic relationship or do you think you
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: guys were just young and trying to figure out like
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: where you wanted to be in life.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I think at that point we were just young trying
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to figure out our life and dating. And I met
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: him before the Hills, like I brought him onto it,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: so we had a relationship before, and then once he
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: was on the show, it totally changed our dynamic and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: kind of changed everything. And then once he was on it,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get him off of it. There's no getting
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Justin out of my life. So we've both accepted it
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and we're just we're friends now forever.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: But it'll never evolve into something more now that you're
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: both older and wiser.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it. I don't know, you know, I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: feel like I'll always have love for him, and he
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: always checks in on me and Kira, and if he's
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: around or I'm down in Huntington and Newport, like you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: we might meet up. But Justin's a mysterious man. He
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: is a nomad, he's a gypsyam. He just loves not
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: having any responsibility, not answering to anyone and just doing
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: whatever he wants. He pops in and out of my life.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Right, he's a popper, I will say, take all of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: that out of it. You guys would make gorgeous babies,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: thank you. But you would make gorgeous babies with anybody.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I had the best time having you on my podcast.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I know, let's grab lunch or dinner.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I would love it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Please, yes, let's do it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on all of your success and it was such
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: an honor to have you on my podcast. You're a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: fucking icon. Thank you, Thank you, babe. Have the best day.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Bye.