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Leo Zagami Breaks Down the Vatican's Top Secret Alien Agenda, Occult Power & the Future of Humanity · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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Hello everyone, it's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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Here we have Leo Zagami back with us again.
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He's always very informative.
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This one is a very good one.
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We're gonna be talking about ETs and the Vatican.
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Wow, what a combination.
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And of course Leo has the deepest insights that are very informative and
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are gonna take us to another level.
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And you actually have a new book, is that correct?
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A new book.
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A new book- Yay … which is basically the Vatican's Top Secret
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Alien Agenda, and this is a book that has already been number one
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in the UF- UFO section of Amazon.
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So if you want to get your copy, you can do it.
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It's available on Amazon, and you can also, of course go and check out let's
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say a synthesis of it on my website, leozagami.com, together with my latest
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articles based on this groundbreaking book, which is in collaboration with
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the Italian Centro Ufologico Nazionale, the Ufological National Center of Italy,
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which was born almost 60 years ago, and his co-founder, Roberto Pinotti, who has
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been my mentor in this field, and one of the most eminent ufologists in the world.
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So we have definitely a lot to discuss, especially because we are seeing one
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more dump after the other regarding these UAP files as they call them today.
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And there is definitely groundbreaking revelations connecting this
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whole disclosure and the control of the narrative by the Vatican
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Yeah, very good.
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So here's a picture of the book- Yes … Exposing the Vatican's Top Secret Alien
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Agenda: The Antidote to Spielberg's Psyop.
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So you're gonna give us a lot of insights here on this-
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Yeah.
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I was actually privy to information, don't ask me how, regarding the script
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of Steven Spielberg's movie, and so I created an antidote with this book.
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You can actually already read about the movie in this book in
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real time as you go and see it.
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Hidden Encounters: Forbidden Rituals and Jesuit Astronomers in the Age of
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UFO Disclosure is the only book that talks about this topic, a topic of great
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importance because you see we have, in the last nine years since that famous
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TikTok video appeared and then the article in the New York Times, suddenly we have
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these people popping out of nowhere, like Luis Elizondo from the Pentagon,
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or David Grusch later on in 2023.
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But in reality they are all Jesuit informers a- and disinfo agents.
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But in reality I would call them gatekeepers, because it's not
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fair to call them disinfo agents.
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They're actually trying to control the narrative, so they try to do it in a way
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that is preparing for ultimate disclosure, but they will never give you the ultimate,
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the form of disclosure Because it's a problem that concerns, of course, as
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you can imagine, national security.
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Because this this whole thing is connected with what we call the legacy program.
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Now, the legacy program is a program of reverse engineering which links the
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CIA, the United States Air Force, and the defen- co- defense contractors.
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And
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they don't really have an intention to fully disclose everything,
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but they are definitely creating a lot of theater around it.
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And there is now I don't know if you saw the latest nomination of Avi
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Loeb, who is supposed to be in charge of this scientifical committee, that
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finally, they say, "Oh, Avi Loeb is a guy who was always fighting the,
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the system about this." And it's like they are creating false narratives.
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Like for example, Jeremy Corbell, nobody knew who he was 10 years ago.
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Now he's the guy that with his new documentary film is portrayed like
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the martyr of ufology, risking his life to give us all the truths.
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So I'm trying here to demystify and create the reality here of this disclosure.
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You understand, Michael?
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Because when I published the previous book regarding this subject, which was
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Invisible Master I then inserted my first take on certain things, but we
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were just at the beginning of it all.
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But I thought it was perfect at that moment to give a different
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look and a different prospect, and it actually went very well.
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But when I arrived here in the United States, and the first place where I
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ended was the Contact in the Desert, I like… It smelled of government spooks
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all over the place, and I wanted to really understand who was controlling
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these UFO conferences, who was behind the door, and in the end, I discovered
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it was, of course, the Vatican.
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And this year, in, like I write in my book, Daniel Sheehan, I don't know if you
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ever heard of him, he's like a famous UFO advocate, but also a very famous attorney,
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a little bit progressive liberal.
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He used to be a Jesuit.
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He was a former Jesuit novitiate who left the Jesuits, became for 10 years the legal
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advisor of the Jesuit headquarters, and at the same time became the instigator
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for a lot of the UFO movement that we have here in the United States today.
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He's the lawyer of Luis Elizondo, who is the law- he is the lawyer of Steven Greer.
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So you see, everything is controlled here.
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In my book, you can see how David Grusch Is actually a complete puppet who says,
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"Oh, yes, I follow Professor Pasulka, Professor the late Professor Tigme."
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Now, for normal people, they will not really understand what that means.
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But David Grusch is a Catholic and is a Jesuit agent, just as another
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figure that you might have heard of that is actually one of the major
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gatekeepers of the whole game here.
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Al Puthoff of the Stargate Project that used to be, of course, involved with
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the whole remote viewing thing, huh?
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So the DIA, the CIA, the whole show then provided us what we saw in The Man
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Who Stared at Goats, that famous film, that it's one of the few films I can
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actually see with George Clooney that doesn't make me puke because it's usually
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such a lefty Scrooge in his movies.
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I can't stand it.
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But that movie is actually a very good movie- Yeah … that needs to be seen.
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So-
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I
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agree … i- in- my intention with this book was this: there was a lot
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of material that was not accessible in the English-speaking world because
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it was only published in Italy and France, and these researchers were
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not American, and they never really…
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so I contacted Roberto Pinotti, and then thanks to him, I was able to also
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access the work of Alfredo Lissoni, who is a professor of religion, who in the
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early 2000s I was able to research the UFO, the UAP as they call it phenomenon
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now, the UAP, but it's, I always call it UFO because in the end, let's call
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it UFO to be more it's more simple.
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I think they do that on purpose to confuse us.
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It's like-
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Yeah, it's a little bit, but there is- Try to confuse you … there is
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some motivations for calling it UAP.
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I explain in this book.
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One of the main motivation is the plasmic human, non-human intelligence, the orbs
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various orbs that also communicate at times with the
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people who interact with them.
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That is not really an object, n- nuts and bolts, so for that reason you can actually
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have one of these orbs inside your home.
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Now, you can't really have a UFO inside your living room, but you
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can have that in your living room.
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So that justifies in a way the name UAP.
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Gotcha.
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But aside from that, we still prefer the old one.
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What happened was that the Vatican archives are 53 miles, 53 miles under
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the Vatican of archives, of secret archives, often regarding the cases of
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beatification or sanctification of saints.
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So when you are actually making a saint you have to evaluate all the paranormal
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phenomena around it, and often it included also what we now call UAP.
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So the whole thing regarding the Vatican is that they have one of the
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biggest archives that contains the mysteries of it all, and I wanted to
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have access to it, but it was impossible for me Thanks to this guy called
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Alfredo Lissoni, who is a professor of religion, he went inside there asserting
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he was studying Christian legends.
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If he said he was studying UFOs or UAP, they will have not let him in.
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But he was able to go in.
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Aside from the 53 miles of the secret Vatican archives now known as the Vatican
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Apostolic Archive, there is also a Vatican
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library, and the Vatican library is another 23 miles of material.
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Now, the archives contain mostly all the various correspondence
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with heads of states for the last thousand years, the Vatican every
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secret possible and imaginable.
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Also, like we said, for the cause of beatification or sanctification of saints.
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But then you have also the books, the forbidden books.
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The books that at times the, us normal folk are never meant to read.
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And of course, the level of security that they have to to accede to these
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archives which I have put in the front.
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This is actually an image from the secret Vatican archive.
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Wow.
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And imagine, it's 53 miles of this stuff.
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Good God.
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So I I was able to include a lot of research done in the archives, but
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at the same time, I was also able to expose those people that the Vatican
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is using for this disclosure project.
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Now, we know that the heads of the New World Order, as I always said,
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in my last two books, the Jesuits and the Sabbatean Frankists, okay?
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Now, the film of Steven Spielberg is exactly that The script by Steven
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Spielberg, who is, of course, a well-known sympathizer of Chabad-Lubavitch
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and the Sabbatean Frankist.
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And at the same time, the screenplay by a guy, David Koepp, who is a
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Catholic Jesuit agent, who has inserted in the movie a lot of these Jesuit
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references, like for example, one of the protagonists is a former nun, or there
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is a nun in a monastery that talks about extraterrestrials, and she actually cites
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a phrase given by a famous Catholic saint.
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So all this is very much constructed in a way that we embrace the
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extraterrestrials as our friends, regardless of their danger.
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This is very important because, the Vatican, like I explained in my book,
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has started preparing for disclosure in the 1950s, actually in the 1930s.
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Wow.
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And I have documents to prove that because you remember when David Grusch
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came out in front of Congress in 2023?
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Yep.
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And he said then that there was, of course reverse engineering, this and that.
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And then later on, he went on record with some newspapers and media, and
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he said the Pope Pius XII was involved in the retrieval of a cr- of a UFO in
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Northern Italy in 1933 that Mussolini had taken, and then thanks to him- Wow
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the UFO ended up in the hands of the Americans after the war.
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In my book, I have the original documents from Mussolini- Wow … ordering
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the journalist absolute silence, and these documents were given to us by
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this guy, who is no longer alive, who is the grandson of Mussolini, whose
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father was killed by his father-in-law Because he betrayed him, Galeazzo Ciano.
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So this guy, Fabrizio Ciano, at the end of the '90s, beginning of the
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2000s, he started, before he died of course, to send these documents out to
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some researchers that I know, Roberto Pinotti and Alfredo Lissoni, and then
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also another guy called Bongiovanni.
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He s- he, he did it in a very mysterious way.
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He didn't wa- and also to some newspaper, but he didn't want to, it wasn't only
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regarding the UFO crash in Magenta, it was also regarding a series of UFO events.
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And these are all official documents, huh?
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Forensically analyzed, so there is no debunking.
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The guy who analyzed it is this guy here in the center who is, used to be one of
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the Italy's most known forensic analyst.
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The guy who did the book, collaborated with me, he was in
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the military working with NATO.
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He founded 60 years ago this Italian ufologic center, and so when he was
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working for the 3rd Battalion of Nuclear Missile, which of course
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at that point you have a, as a very high up security clearance.
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The Americans officers of NATO that were involved with him went to him
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and said, "We know that you like this subject." He was actually presented,
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presenting it formally to the Italian to the Italian, I think it was a
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armed forces event that he organized with the arm- Italian Armed Forces.
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So these Americans went to them and they said to Roberto we h- have actually
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retrieved UFOs in America, and we have the bodies of aliens." This was actually
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the, in the early '70s this happened.
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So f- from thereon, Roberto, of course, was already a firm believer
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and became even b- a bigger believer.
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But how did he become a believer?
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Okay.
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Roberto is born in 1944, the same a- same year as my mother.
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In 1954, something very strange happened in Florence.
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During a soccer match, suddenly a massive amount of UFOs appeared over the stadium.
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They had to interrupt the soccer match in the end because of
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all these UFOs over Florence.
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So imagine interrupting a soccer match in Italy is like interrupting a mass.
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Italians, for them, soccer is a religion.
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They were all watching in the sky, and nobody was watching the match anymore.
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So then at that point, the referee had to interrupt the match, and then
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they picked up when all this UFO activity eventually will disappear.
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It was at that point, he was 10 years old, he understood
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he's grown up a passion for it.
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But in 1954,
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the day after this happened in Florence, the American ambassador also witnessed
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these UFOs over Rome, and this American ambassador became also very relevant
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in this story because she was connected with President Eisenhower, and President
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Eisenhower will actually allegedly have a couple of close encounters
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of the third kind in the early '50s with both the Grays and the Nordics.
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Wow.
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But in 1954, the most interesting thing was that the Vatican, there was
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the, one of the ambassadors for the Vatican, a guy called Alberto Perigo,
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who was there in St. Peter's Square.
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Suddenly, he sees a squadron of 40 UFOs over St. Peter's Square.
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Wow.
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At that point, that's when the Vatican exopolitical game started.
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That's when we finally have the birth of the exopolitical interest, which then
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becomes even more important and relevant a few years later when a pope that had
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been initiated in a lodge and then had this contact experience, a guy called
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Roncalli, who will become Pope John XXIII, in July 1961, had himself an encounter
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of the third kind in Castel Gandolfo
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This is a pope, the pope who gave birth to the Second Vatican Council.
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And so before starting the council, he meets with an extraterrestrial.
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That changed the whole course of the council and what it was
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supposed to mean for the church.
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In fact, you remember how many times we have discussed the importance of
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the Second Vatican Council in the creation of the one world religion?
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Many times on your show.
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Many times because I've discussed in volume 12, I've discussed in
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other books, in volume seven.
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It's always been a very important topic for me, the fact that the Vatican is
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gathering together all these faiths.
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But what is the reason?
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The reason is that once you have disclosure, automatically
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everybody goes to their religious leader, not to their politicians.
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And so they, the Vatican, wanted to prepare for that.
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Now you have the evangelicals who, as there was an accident that happened
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just in May, at the end of May, in which a famous politician had allegedly
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said certain things, and that alleged politician said these things to a
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group of pastors that came together.
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Then one of these pastors went on the air during a podcast and said I
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can't tell you who he was, but what he said, it was so scary and we were
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all scared." Then like a few days after, he had to basically do a whole
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disclaimer about it because of course the man in black had gone to him and
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he was like forced into damage control.
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There is actually a video I have of this guy and he looks, "Yes, it was
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not the words of this politician, it was my words." So let's understand who
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this politician was and what was said.
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The politician was Congressman Eric Burlison, who's been one of the
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most outspoken Republican members regarding the UAP disclosure.
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Just a few days ago, they were on the stairs of Congress, you remember, with
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David Grusch and many other Paulina Luna, and all, it was a bipa- bipartisan effort.
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We saw David Grusch at the podium of this task force on the declassification of
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federal secrets that on June 9, admitted, and there was also Burlison, of course,
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that somebody's mentioning in the chat.
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These people Didn't blink an eye when David Grusch said,
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"We have aliens alive." Aliens.
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Wow.
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No, we're not talking about reverse engineering and spaceships,
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which was already something.
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We're talking about live biological material of a non-terrestrial origin,
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and this, of course, was said by somebody who had the highest level of
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security clearance, like David Grusch.
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But David Grusch can say those things because he's authorized by the Jesuits
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So my point in making this book was to explain who is behind Luis
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Elizondo, David Grusch all the people that were this year at Contact in the
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Desert George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell.
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Every single person, every time you put the TV on, you get the same people.
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It's like a mantra.
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Steven Greer.
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Steven Greer is a massive Vatican stooge.
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In fact- Wow … just three weeks ago, he admitted- Ooh … he admitted, "I
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was in the Vatican and I stayed in the apartment over St. Peter's Square of
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Monsignor Balducci." He admitted it.
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He admitted that he stays in the apartment with this guy, and this guy we know
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him because he, this, the guy next…
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This is Monsignor Balducci where Steven Greer stayed in the Vatican.
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The guy next to him is the guy I made the book with, Roberto Pinotti.
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Wow.
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He wrote the preface for one of his books.
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So to actually it, it's quite incredible because when there was
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Contact in the Desert this year, if you all go on YouTube, there is a s-
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a site, for Contact in the Desert.
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You have one of the rare public videos that you can find there, because
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otherwise you have to go on the paying of the website, and you have to pay
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for viewing the various lectures.
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There is one lecture that is public, and it's Daniel Sheehan.
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And he admits in front of the cameras when one guy says, "So what about the Vatican?"
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He says, "Pope Leo XIV has invited me to Castel Gandolfo."
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Wow.
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And he admitted that all the ufologic movement, even before contact in the
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desert, he was there from the start.
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That means the Jesuits were there from the start.
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Wow, so you also say in and I can't wait to read your book- Yes … I have
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it I've already downloaded it but-
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I know that you are an avid reader, and I can't wait for you to read it because
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I know there is gonna be a follow-up
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to this interview.
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I, I love your book, yeah.
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It's gonna be
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massive.
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Zecharia
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Sitchin.
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Absolutely, man.
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Oh my God, The Anunnaki Chronicles, the Twelfth Planet, I read all those books,
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and he's involved here in the Vatican.
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Oh my
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God.
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Photos.
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I'm not bringing, I'm bringing the receipts here.
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This guy next to him is a P2 member that I know very well.
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The P2 guy.
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Wow.
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Is Gian Mario Ferramonti, was the co-founder with me of Italians for 10,
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so I know very, I know him very well.
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So Mario Ferramonti became the guy who brought the evi- after Zecharia
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Sitchin met with Monsignor Balducci, the guy who met with Steven Greer,
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the guy I showed you earlier-
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Wow
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after they met, they started- Yeah … to exchange material, even alien material.
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And this guy, who is Gian Mario Ferramonti, who has also background
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in technology, was functioning as the guy who would bring the material
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from Zecharia Sitchin to Balducci, from Balducci to Zecharia Sitchin.
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Good God.
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Wow.
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So in my book, I also s- talk, and nobody knows this aside from very few people,
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Zecharia Sitchin had an encounter of the third kind that has saved his life.
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Really?
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He wa- he was about to die of an illness.
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He didn't know he had this illness.
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One night, an Anunnaki showed in front of his bed.
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Wow.
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And he said "You have to have immediately this operation." I think
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it was I'm not sure, eh, it could be the heart, but something else was.
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He said, "You have to have immediately this operation."
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And it saved his life.
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Good God.
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Wow.
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What happened with Zecharia Sitchin is that he then relayed the same
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tale also, not only to Gian Mario Ferramonti, but also to Jordan Maxwell.
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And I knew Jordan Maxwell because the late Jordan Maxwell used to live nearby.
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Wow.
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And Jordan Maxwell confirmed to me That Zecharia Sitchin had this happening.
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So very few people know about this encounter of the third
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kind of Zecharia Sitchin It's
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true.
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Yeah.
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Good, good.
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Wow.
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You've rubbed elbows with a lot of amazing people.
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And I always wondered, it's like he's always talking about, "We got this
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information from cuneiform tablets."
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I'm like, come on, you got all this stuff from these ancient tablets?
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So now we know.
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You got the informa- you got it handed to him on a silver platter.
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Wow.
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He was definitely able to bring his research one step further once he
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could accede to the Vatican archives.
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Like we just said earlier in the show, they are a very important part here.
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And for example the Vatican has some major gatekeepers that work
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for them, like we said, David Grusch, but not only David Grusch.
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Professor Pasulka, for example.
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I don't know if you ever heard of her.
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She's a professor of religious studies who has published a book which is
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now very powerful and ve- deemed very influential called American Cosmic.
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In the book American Cosmic, she doesn't really confirm who are
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these people, the characters.
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She makes fictional names for them.
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I put the real names in my book, and they are big shots.
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One of the people that is involved with Pas- because Pasulka was a
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professor of religious studies.
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The one day was after she met with Jacques Vallée, who became her mentor.
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Jacques Vallée is a very influential figure because Jacques Vallée
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works for the Legacy Program.
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The Legacy Program, I repeat, is the Department of Energy, which
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is the descendant of the Dema- the Manhattan Project, the CIA and
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the various defense contractors.
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As soon as they see a UFO to they need to get it, because that…
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and sometimes they actively work with these remote viewers
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to bring down these UFOs.
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So they co- be- because the problem in my book I show how there is a UAP
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pr- reverse engineering program in the United States, in Russia, and in China.
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Now this week they confirmed, even New York Post confirmed that's true.
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And so it's not, and in my book though, I actually show who was
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directing this, because for example This guy here, with all these medals?
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Yeah.
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A Soviet, Lieutenant Colonel Savin.
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He is the, used to be in the Soviet times, the head of the Unit
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10,003, a unit of remote viewers.
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On the other side of the Atlantic doing exactly the same job as he was
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doing, there was this other guy who nowadays you see at times like in
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The Age of Disclosure documentary.
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Have you ever seen this guy?
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This guy is Al Puthoff.
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Oh,
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yeah.
27:39
Al Puthoff.
27:40
Al Puthoff-
27:40
Yeah, yep
27:42
… is the guy who wants to classify our reality, wants to limit our truth.
27:47
He's extremely controlling of everything.
27:49
His level of security clearance is on top of the current
27:53
president of the United States.
27:56
So when you have Trump saying there is these pilots who told me this and that,"
28:01
the problem, like I explain in my book, is like, and this was confirmed not
28:06
only in the film Disclosure Day, but also by Marco Rubio in the documentary
28:11
The Age of Disclosure, they are informed only on a need-to-know basis.
28:16
So they don't really know anything.
28:20
They are know what they, the minimum they can know.
28:25
Of course, there has been some presidents more involved, like for example, in
28:29
1973, Nixon had a direct encounter of the third kind, or Eisenhower, but this
28:37
is, doesn't happen with every president.
28:41
So it's very important to realize that at the moment the
28:47
Vatican is in a state of panic.
28:50
I explain what is happening because the Secretary of State of the Vatican
28:54
has now forbidden any representative of the Vatican to discuss the topic.
28:59
10 years ago, the Pope was actually saying, "Oh, let's baptize an
29:02
extraterrestrial." Then we had, of course, the Jesuits, who even wrote a book
29:06
about baptizing ex- extraterrestrials, the Jesuits from the Specul Vaticana,
29:12
this guy in particular Guy Consolmagno.
29:16
The pope now has gone back to the summer headqu- the su- usually the
29:20
summer residence of the pope since Pope Francis had transformed it in a museum
29:25
in 2016 was not really relevant anymore.
29:29
But it was at the same time the headquarters of the astronomical section
29:33
of the Jesuits called the Specola Vaticana of the astro- of the Vatican Observatory.
29:36
That Vatican Observatory is one of the most advanced in the world, and
29:37
is connected directly to Mount Graham in Arizona, where they have very
29:38
important telescopes, including then the, that infrared that covers the
29:38
actual telescope, which is, was known as Lucifer, and now is known as Lucy.
29:39
They actually have two of those, Lucy one and two now.
29:39
But the Vatican, they don't want this a- association with the name
29:40
Lucifer, so they were like, they scrapped it off their website.
29:40
They said, "No, it's a consortium of
30:16
German universities.
30:17
We have nothing to do with it." I exposed them and I have the links, the documents.
30:22
So the … But the problem is that there is some connections here
30:28
that are absolutely mind-blowing.
30:31
Let me show you something.
30:32
These are pictures that are pretty shocking
30:38
Now, the one on the left is a young Al Puthoff next to Phil Corso.
30:45
Phil Corso, you heard of Phil Corso?
30:47
The guy who talk about reverse engineering in Roswell, he was in Roswell.
30:51
Okay.
30:52
This is Alexander, John B. Alexander, the guy from the Stargate project, the colonel
30:58
who was in charge of the of various psychological operation, but he was mainly
31:03
in charge of the Stargate project also.
31:05
And next to him you have also a very young George Knapp
31:12
This photo is unique, but the photo here on top is also unique.
31:17
In this photo, the guy in the center is Teller, one of the main
31:22
people of the Manhattan Project.
31:25
All these UFO crashes happened where?
31:28
In New Mexico.
31:29
It's not only Roswell, huh?
31:31
Yep.
31:32
So let's go back to that Professor Pazuka I was discussing earlier with you.
31:37
Why she's so important, because she became the disciple of Jacques Vallée.
31:41
After that, she was blindfolded and brought to a crash site in New Mexico
31:47
to given, where she was given evidence.
31:50
But she was not alone.
31:52
She was with a new guy who operates a front for the CIA, which is currently
31:58
employed internationally for this disclosure, is called the Sol Foundation.
32:05
He's called Gary Nolan, and together with Professor Scatfish, they're
32:11
in charge of the Sol Foundation.
32:13
Have you ever heard of Sol Foundation?
32:15
Please go on Google and put Sol, S-O-L Foundation.
32:20
It's gonna blow your mind what these people are doing in front of our eyes.
32:25
Because they have done a secret meeting last year in Italy, but the previous
32:33
meetings were here in California, and the Sol Foundation is, like I said,
32:40
a front organization of the CIA.
32:45
Oh, wow
32:48
And see what they're doing.
32:49
Science, policy, and public education for the post-UAP world.
32:53
Not… They're already preparing for after the UAP is revealed,
32:57
the aliens are revealed.
33:00
Wow.
33:03
So it's very much advanced, this whole thing.
33:06
Now, bringing Professor Pasulka to this UFO crash site,
33:11
Professor Pasulka is also…
33:12
You see the people involved, these are all CIA shields.
33:16
Go from the top, the guy Gary Nolan, that guy there worked with classified stuff.
33:24
He's the biggest expert of orbs and u- o- on non-human intelligence.
33:28
The guy next to him is Peter Scaffide, which is a really big
33:33
deal in this world of the co- controlled disclosure by the Vatican.
33:39
So this, and then you have Professor Pasulka, who was blindfolded and
33:44
made the convert to the UFO because these people actually have evidence.
33:50
They actually are the ones working with the legacy program
33:57
So my book is exposing something that nobody has ever exposed before.
34:02
Then you have Jennifer Preston with this these are all CIA shields.
34:07
You've been in the CIA, you know how they operate.
34:10
Oh, yeah.
34:11
So I'm not telling you anything new.
34:12
They have a lot of, they want complete control over this UAP,
34:18
UFO- But then I remember Catholics in Action, CIA.
34:28
That's, yeah, we're starting to see that now.
34:30
Another thing that really surprised me in your second chapter, you talk
34:34
about- Yeah … giordano Bruno-
34:37
Yes
34:37
… who was burned at the stake, and I thought he was burned at the
34:40
stake because of his heliocentric views, and he wouldn't recant.
34:44
But you're saying there's some kind of UFO connection?
34:47
He made a whole book called De infinito universi et mundi, On the
34:52
Infinite Universe and the World, where he was basically stating that
34:56
there were other inhabited worlds.
34:58
That was not for the Vatican ac- something you could accept.
35:02
Imagine that he was actually brought on the stake in Campo de' Fiori with a finger
35:07
over his mouth, like- So he couldn't talk
35:09
… so he
35:09
couldn't even talk to the- to anybody- Talk … and say anything.
35:12
Got it.
35:12
Yeah.
35:12
Now, let- let me tell you a bit- little bit about Giordano Bruno.
35:15
Giordano Bruno was a monk, first of all, no?
35:17
So-
35:18
A
35:18
Benedictine,
35:18
right?
35:19
No, he was, I think he was actually Dominican- Dominican, okay … if
35:24
I don't get it wrong, huh?
35:25
Yeah.
35:26
Do they- he ba- he was basically a guy who as a monk was very
35:32
p- very well very well-versed
35:33
in things.
35:33
Yeah brilliant guy.
35:34
I read a lot of his stuff.
35:35
He was… I didn't know about that book, though.
35:36
That's pretty wild.
35:38
I think that actually I have probably all of his books here.
35:42
Wow.
35:43
So I have actually some rare ones that I have also- I gotta come visit
35:46
someday.
35:47
Geez
35:47
… one day, no, I have to show you one day- Yeah … one of these books because they
35:51
have also he used to make also images that looked like the ones that later
35:57
we will have in the how you call them?
36:03
Flung saucers … ah the ones on the, in the field.
36:04
The images that you find in the-
36:06
oh.
36:07
Yeah.
36:07
The, the- … crop circles.
36:09
Yes, crop cir-
36:10
Wow
36:11
… crops, crop circles.
36:11
Yes, crop cir- because crop circles- Wow … now is an interesting
36:16
thing regarding crop circles.
36:18
So you see in the movie Disclosure Day, at one point you actually see this guy
36:25
who, while he's talking on the phone, the crop circle is forming around him.
36:31
Wow.
36:32
In my book, I explain that actually there was a, an image that was drawn, I think.
36:38
Let me see if I can find you the name.
36:41
There is actually an image, a specific image made a few centuries ago called,
36:46
I think, The Morning Devil, of a demon making this crop circle in England.
36:54
Let me see if I find it for you.
36:57
The Mowing Devil it's called.
36:59
It's actually-
37:01
So it's from centuries ago.
37:02
Wow.
37:03
Yeah.
37:03
Let me show you so we can actually show it to your public.
37:07
That is actually a demon
37:09
Yeah, I've seen that before.
37:10
That's wild
37:11
And they're actually doing a crop circle
37:16
They had to explain it some way, 'cause, and when they couldn't
37:18
explain it, they said it was demons
37:21
that is the interesting thing about, the whole book Yeah Because I try to be
37:26
as biased as possible on this unbiased.
37:29
You say unbiased.
37:29
Yes, unbiased.
37:31
Not biased, but unbiased.
37:33
I try to give a an idea to the people the, of what the values, the Catholics
37:41
think in a certain way, the Orthodox in another, the Evangelicals in another.
37:46
They each have their own take at the moment on what are these beings.
37:49
But one thing that is rather shocking is the attitude of the
37:53
Vatican, because the Vatican is the only one that is all-embracing.
37:58
Why do they have so much certainty?
38:01
It's because of the story that I narrate in this book.
38:06
After the first crash retrieval, there was, of course, Roswell,
38:10
and the Vatican sent immediately one of the s- most eminent
38:15
representatives at the time to Roswell.
38:18
So the Vatican knew about Roswell, and then there were James Francis Cardinal
38:25
McIntyre, who was who died in 1979,
38:29
he was an archbishop here in Los Angeles, was actually in Roswell at the re- at
38:35
there were two sites, not one, by the way.
38:40
Oh.
38:40
And and he went there, and then he went to talk about it with the Pope, who in
38:48
the meantime had already given the UFO that they had recovered in northern Italy
38:56
That's when the reverse engineering project started.
38:59
Then in the early '50s, they formalized it and made it into what eventually
39:05
became known as the Legacy Program.
39:07
Then what happened in the early '70s was that they started the remote
39:12
viewing projects, both because they saw that in Soviet Union they
39:18
were doing similar things with telekinesis and stuff, so they started.
39:22
And as soon as they started in 1971, '72, in 1973 they came to the
39:27
conclusion that non-human intelligence was interfering with their operations,
39:32
and that the remote viewers were getting contact with actual aliens.
39:36
At the beginning, it wasn't called Stargate Project.
39:39
It would be eventually called Stargate Project only in 1991, and
39:43
it was called Stargate Project once the whole alien thing took over
39:49
the show of these remote viewers.
39:53
People like Ingo Swann, various remote viewers like Pat Buchanan,
39:58
those people that's, became a way for them to connect with these beings,
40:06
just like the Russians were doing.
40:08
Wow.
40:08
In Russia, they connected w- through the work of Colonel Sabin, and then
40:16
the Vatican, you see the, this whole disclosure that we are living today
40:21
with Trump actually started the, at the end of the Obama presidency It started
40:29
when John Podesta made his famous post on Twitter claiming that he could
40:38
have more regarding the disclosure.
40:41
After that, he thought, fortunately we didn't have Hillary becoming president.
40:46
But while he was chairman of the Hillary campaign, he went to Rome
40:52
to talk with the Vatican about it, and to talk with this organization
40:58
that was then connected to Russia.
41:00
They talk about, often about Trump and his links to Russia, but nobody talks
41:06
about John Podesta and these peoples and their links to Russia, which were
41:10
much more closer to something that…
41:14
and this organization that they were creating in Russia that is now being
41:19
put on pause because of the war in Ukraine, this organization that
41:27
is actually directed in Moscow by Vladimir Putin, wanted to become like
41:33
the Bilderberg of the ufologists.
41:36
But of course, after the war of Ukraine started to erupt, then
41:40
they had to put everything on hold.
41:42
But the Jesuits were involved, and my friend Roberto Pinotti was actually
41:48
called, and he went two times in Moscow.
41:51
And in Moscow he actually saw the Vatican representatives there.
41:54
I have photos here a- and documents so that people can see that we are talking
42:01
about things that are not a speculation.
42:04
This is actually Roberto Pinotti with Lieutenant Colonel Savin, the head of
42:09
the remote viewers, who were working during the Setka program in Soviet Union.
42:17
And in my book I have also some very interesting testimonies about
42:20
how the, th- there was similar things to what was going on here.
42:25
And then of course you have also the Chinese.
42:27
The Chinese, who nowadays have one of the most advanced space programs,
42:31
but only thanks to the Jesuits.
42:33
Let's not forget the Jesuits were the one who almost 500 years ago went
42:36
to China and brought them astronomy, and they educated them on astronomy.
42:41
So of course they became very important.
42:44
Any questions?
42:46
Yeah, we're going all the way back to, Bruno, Gio-
42:50
Giordano Bruno.
42:51
Giordano Bruno was one of the most eminent astronomers … was it 15-
42:55
1500 or something crazy?
42:56
The- Yeah … so we're all the way back there.
42:59
So how- Galileo Galilei
43:00
time … how far back
43:01
we go?
43:02
Yeah.
43:02
There was, of course, the whole thing about the heliocentric,
43:06
like you said before, no?
43:08
That was one of the main reasons.
43:10
But then you had also Galileo Galilei.
43:13
You had and then later on Copernicus.
43:15
The thing is that the Church- Now they,
43:16
they were put in house arrest with the-
43:19
No, but the crazy thing, if you think about it, today- Yeah … the Jesuits
43:23
are the ones who are actually getting you to embrace the extraterrestrial,
43:28
wanting to be at the forefront of this disclosure and all that.
43:32
Back then, they were the ones silencing people and killing them, because
43:36
one of the main people- Yeah … who sent Giordano Bruno on the stake,
43:41
like I say in my book, was a Jesuit.
43:43
So the Jesuits went from being the ones who silenced everybody to the
43:49
ones who instead now are trying to… They are still silencing everybody,
43:54
but they're directing now the narrative to a more open situation.
43:58
In fact, Guy Consolmagno, who is currently the director of the foundation
44:03
of the Vatican Observatory, he said that we should listen to what was
44:08
said in the Peters Survey of 2008.
44:10
Now, in my book the fourth chapter is dedicated to these two surveys that
44:15
were conducted, one in the middle of the '90s, financed by Robert Bigelow
44:20
and conducted by the Alexanders.
44:22
The other one is called the Peters Survey of 2008.
44:26
These two surveys were basically made so to understand how the various different
44:34
religious denominations of Christianity, but also Muslims, Jews Buddhists, will
44:40
react once disclosure is announced.
44:44
And then They came with the official narrative.
44:49
Of course, that is, I think, a little bit doubtful because they said, "Oh,
44:54
the Americans have, they have, they had 100 priests answering questions,"
44:59
a survey just to see how they will all, the various pastors, how they
45:03
will react, the various rabbis.
45:04
And in the end, they came to the conclusion that, yes, the American people
45:09
are mature enough to take it, no problem
45:15
I don't think so, because then you have a bunch of other people
45:18
who are saying exactly the contrary, including Jacques Vallée.
45:21
So It's a little bit weird.
45:25
Yeah.
45:26
When I was in the CIA, there was a guy that was disclosing, he
45:29
was on Kerri Cassidy, probably have seen some of her stuff.
45:32
She reveals a lot of stuff on UFO stuff.
45:34
But he came on, it was Bill Broadbroker, and he comes, he was a former,
45:38
he claimed to be, a former SEAL.
45:41
He was involved in programs that were in Area 51.
45:45
He worked with the Grays, he worked with this system that
45:48
you could see the future on it.
45:50
And I was like, I validated the guy, and from that point
45:55
on my life turned upside down.
45:57
They came after me.
45:58
They destroyed my life.
45:59
Ooh.
45:59
So the CIA still is, suppressing this.
46:03
Now you say the Jesuits are like, "Oh, yeah, it's we like the ET
46:07
stuff now, and they're cool."
46:08
But on the other hand, you got the CIA basically still trying
46:11
to suppress this stuff and kill people that are involved in it.
46:15
It, I think we're going towards something big though, if you think about it.
46:20
Yeah.
46:20
Because now a lot of people say, "But why now?" One of the main reason is that
46:26
a lot of things have happened since we have reverse engineered this technology.
46:31
This technology is the technology that has brought us the AI, the data centers.
46:36
We went from Project Stargate being a remote viewing program to
46:40
Project Stargate being a data center program, and it's all connected.
46:44
Wow.
46:44
So now that we have the technology, we have basically fallen in their own trap
46:50
because they have built a digital prison around us, and they don't need to come
46:55
with the UFOs like Independence Day, when they are basically owning the AI.
47:02
Now Avi Loeb, the guy who I told you is a major shill, he actually works for Shin
47:09
Bet, for the Israel military intelligence, but he also acts like the scientist who
47:14
knows it all, and now he's gonna be in charge of the scientific committee on UAP.
47:19
This guy said that if the aliens come on Earth, they will connect with our AI.
47:27
My thesis is they actually gave us these things, so we build the AI,
47:34
and there's no need of connecting the AI because basically the AI is their
47:37
product, so we are already screwed up because we bring a, an alien in our
47:41
pocket every time we have a smartphone.
47:43
Now- … the, now you might think that is not real, but actually
47:47
it is real, and I tell you why.
47:49
Because when we s- we hear the history of how the AI developed and how s-
47:55
the whole history in the end What we are having now is a product that
48:02
is definitely changing our reality.
48:05
Anthropic, for example, has been embraced like the good AI by the
48:10
Vatican, who made the encyclicas.
48:13
Wow, the encyclica.
48:14
Oh, big figure.
48:16
The Pope has embraced AI, but the good AI.
48:19
And then ChatGPT is the evil AI.
48:22
And then they say that Anthropic will not be used for military.
48:25
That's nonsense.
48:26
They already said that every time there will be a special operation like
48:30
Venezuela, they will be using Anthropic.
48:32
So that's it, they are just selling us a lie regarding the good and bad AI,
48:38
because there is no good and bad AI.
48:41
There just is one AI that is gonna control everything by 2030.
48:47
And in my book I don't want to give out too much, but in the end you will
48:53
understand that from next year onwards something really special is starting,
48:59
and it's gonna last seven years.
49:00
And in that alignment with Sirius, that's the moment in which they
49:05
will take over the whole show.
49:08
Wow.
49:09
So yeah they have to have these alignments.
49:11
They're all into that stuff.
49:12
There's a ritual that is gonna take place.
49:14
It's gonna last seven years.
49:15
Ritual takes seven years, and it's gonna take place in the heart of Africa
49:21
Interesting.
49:21
Yeah you've given us some really good tidbits in this book and
49:24
yeah, definitely appreciate it.
49:26
So what do you think the future is?
49:28
We're gonna be able to avoid the UFO control system that they're
49:30
trying to spring on us or what?
49:33
It's about really a situation that they have devised for a very long time so
49:39
whereby by the time we are finally…
49:41
disclosure is starting now.
49:43
It's not gonna be given to us in one year.
49:46
It's gonna probably take a few years.
49:48
But by the time they give us the full picture, the world will have
49:52
already changed, and we will have been impossibilitated to react
49:56
in any way against their interest because that is their problem.
50:01
They want to maintain control over us.
50:05
The governments know that once the alien disclosure happens a lot of
50:11
people will say, "Who cares about the president? Who cares? These guys,
50:15
they're more powerful." So that is what they want to avoid, you understand?
50:19
They want to avoid the fact that people might reject not only religion,
50:25
'cause there will be people who will also be driven to think that these
50:30
are the saviors of mankind because that is also the false perception
50:34
that the Jesuits want to bring us.
50:37
You understand?
50:37
So think about the fact that on one side you have people like JD Vance who
50:43
initially said they were demons, yeah?
50:45
I was gonna ask.
50:46
Good.
50:46
Thank you.
50:47
That is the topic that I opened the book with.
50:50
Okay.
50:52
But then once that this whole thing started and the disclosure
50:57
is starting, even Vance had to s- a little bit, because the demon, the…
51:05
Just when it was the couple weeks ago, an exorcist who used to be
51:10
an intelligence officer, Monsignor Rossetti, you heard about it, no?
51:14
In the Archbishop of Washington, DC, kicked him out as exorcist after 19 years.
51:21
And because he said that the aliens were demons.
51:29
So the Orthodox, they continue to say the aliens are demons.
51:33
It-
51:33
that's just disinformation.
51:34
They're, like, just seeding disinformation.
51:36
They've always been doing that, though.
51:37
The thing is this, of course we can't expect that every single
51:42
extraterrestrial interdimensional being or extra-dimensional
51:45
being is a positive being.
51:48
Sure.
51:48
There might actually be fallen angels.
51:51
There might- Okay … actually be demons.
51:53
Yeah.
51:53
But of course, good and evil is reflected at a universal level.
51:57
So if you have four races, there might be a race that is inclined to be more
52:01
demonic and more evil than another one that is more angelic and more… even
52:06
us humans, we are given the choice.
52:09
We can go and become the monsters that at times we do become, or
52:14
we can become some very good and positive beings, but it is up to us.
52:19
We have been given this choice.
52:21
Other races might not have that choice.
52:23
They might go by the will of the single the queen bee.
52:27
There is a lot of things that will change in the coming years, and for me
52:33
was important by doing this book, that people finally know who is controlling
52:38
the whole thing, the narrative.
52:40
That when that you put on the TV, you don't simply become a passive spectator
52:45
of what is the biggest change in human history, and the biggest event.
52:50
Because I have decided with this book to abandon my interest in politics.
52:57
I'm only interested in exopolitics.
53:00
Awesome.
53:01
Do you think that it's relevant if this president or this other
53:04
president does something, when in reality there is something else
53:09
that control the whole f- agenda?
53:11
Think about it
53:14
Xi Jinping, Putin, Trump, they know already that we are not alone.
53:22
They might each have, more information regarding a subject than the other, but-
53:30
Yeah … but in reality they know, and that is what also, a lot of this at the
53:36
e- in, in, at the top level of our society these days, they are actually moving,
53:43
knowing about this great revolution that will occur with this disclosure.
53:49
That's why a guy like Luis Elizondo has built a bunker.
53:54
That's why Peter Thiel has constructed a secret society that is actually
54:01
controlling and preparing for World War III, and at the same time Peter
54:06
Thiel has moved the family to Buenos Aires and says, "As soon as China or
54:12
Russia does something, I am going to Buenos Aires, I'm going to Argentina.
54:16
I don't wanna stay here in America." So this is not really
54:21
Eh.
54:22
Not encouraging.
54:23
Not encouraging.
54:25
Not encouraging.
54:25
A- absolutely.
54:26
Not at all.
54:27
Wow.
54:28
All right, Leo.
54:29
Thanks for sharing-
54:30
Thank you
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… thanks for the information.
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Guys, get out and get that book.
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It's gonna be, just like all of his books, it's gonna be incredibly insightful
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and revelatory and take you to the next level in consciousness, I think.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely … all- yeah my intention is for you and everybody else to read this
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book, because I really feel that it's for us important to not be manipulated on this
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subject, that we have actually the freedom to decide where to go on this subject, if
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this is really … the fact that Steven Spielberg has sold us the gray aliens that
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for decades the abductees have referred to as being evil, as being good, and at one
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point we even had a child play with E.T.
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"Oh, wow, E.T., what a nice little-"
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E.T. phone home.
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E.T. phone home, and the whole thing, and then you have Encounters of the
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Third Kind with everybody's deliberately, and every- and these grays, they're all
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nice and- And then, in the last movie, at the end of the movie, th- they are
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even bringing out of retirement E.T.
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wi- on a wheelchair almost, because that's what it is.
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We have E.T. arriving in a wheelchair for the final discl- Now, disclosure could
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happen in two ways at this point, by the government giving us their own version and
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of course finally telling us that we are not alone and that we have aliens that are
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actually currently even in laboratories owned by the military-industrial complex.
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Or we could have, and I hope that actually is the, that is the best solution,
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that finally one of these alien races manifest themselves, because then it's not
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anymore in the hands of the governments to control the narrative, then it's our
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hands just, once they are in front of us.
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But that is not possible because a lot of these races have treaties
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of not intervention on the affairs of a primitive species like us.
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So that is unfortunate.
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But let's see what's gonna happen.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much for having me on today, and the Vatican Top Secret Alien
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Agenda is something that we will be probably talking about for a long time.
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And also once you read this book, I'm sure you're gonna
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have a lot of other questions.
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Absolutely.
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All right.
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Thanks, Leo.
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So always- Take
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care
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… a pleasure and honor.
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Thank you very much, and we'll see you guys next time.
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God bless you all.
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God bless.