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- Lucas: James Dyson built 5,127 failed prototypes before he got the first working version of his bagless vacuum cleaner. That number — 5,127 — is almost mythical now, but it's real. Luna: And it's not just a trivia fact. It defines how his entire company operates. Lucas: Exactly. Dyson didn't stumble into success. He created a system that embraces failure as a necessary input. When he talks about those early years, he says each prototype taught him something. The 2,000th wasn't a waste because it ruled out a bad approach. Luna: But most companies would have given up long before 5,000 tries. The pressure from investors, the sunk cost — how did he sustain that? Lucas: Well, for one, he wasn't taking venture capital early on. He was bootstrapped, licensing his technology to other companies. He had a patent on the cyclonic separation principle, which gave him some runway. But more importantly, he had a personal tolerance for failure that most executives lack. Luna: Was that always there? Or did he develop it? Lucas: I think it was forged. He grew up on a farm in Norfolk, England, and he studied at the Royal College of Art — he's a designer, not an engineer by training. His first product, the Ballbarrow, a wheelbarrow with a ball instead of a wheel, taught him that you can improve even the most mundane object. Luna: And the Ballbarrow actually sold, right? It was modestly successful. Lucas: It did. But he fell out with his business partner over the licensing of that invention. That experience made him fiercely protective of his intellectual property and his control. So when he started on the vacuum, he was determined to develop it himself, even if it meant years of debt. Luna: Let's talk about the actual innovation. What was so different about his vacuum? Lucas: The key was cyclonic separation. Standard vacuums used bags that clogged and lost suction as they filled. Dyson's design spun the air at high speed so the centrifugal force threw dust to the sides, keeping the airflow constant. It's a physics principle that had been used in industrial sawmills for decades. Luna: He didn't invent the cyclone, he miniaturised it. Lucas: Right. And that took the 5,127 prototypes. He started with a cardboard and tape model, then moved to plastic. He maxed out credit cards, remortgaged his house. His wife even taught art to support the family. But he never saw the failures as failures — he saw them as data. Luna: That mindset is hard to scale. Dyson as a small startup can do that. But what happens when you're a giant company with 12,000 employees and quarterly earnings pressure? Lucas: That's the interesting part. Dyson Ltd still tries to preserve that culture. They have a huge R&D facility in Malmesbury, England, with labs and workshops. Engineers are encouraged to prototype early and often. The company invests heavily in patents — they have over 10,000 granted patents globally. Luna: But they've also had big flops. The Dyson Airblade hand dryer was a commercial success, but the Contrarotator washing machine was a disaster. And recently, they scrapped the electric car project. Lucas: The car project is a perfect case study. Dyson announced in 2017 that they were building an electric vehicle. They invested about 500 million pounds of their own money. They had a prototype, a factory in Singapore, and a team of 600 engineers. And in 2019, James Dyson pulled the plug. Luna: He said it wasn't commercially viable. But it must have hurt. Lucas: He said in an interview that he was heartbroken for about two days. Then he moved on. He framed it as 'the biggest but best failure in my career.' Because they learned about battery technology, aerodynamics, and manufacturing at scale. Some of that technology is now being used in their other products. Luna: So he applied the same prototype logic to a billion-dollar project. Fail fast, kill it, capture the learning. Lucas: Exactly. And that's rare. Most CEOs would have doubled down or hidden the loss. Dyson, because he controls the company privately, could make that call without Wall Street screaming at him. Luna: That private ownership is a huge advantage. He's not afraid to admit failure because he doesn't have to manage quarterly guidance. Lucas: It's a structural advantage that most public companies don't have. But the philosophy is still something leaders can imitate. Create a culture where a failed project is not a stain on someone's career, but a data point. That takes active work from the top. Luna: And it's worth noting that Dyson's personal wealth is around 7 billion pounds. He's not hurting. But he didn't get there by being cautious. Lucas: No. And that's the takeaway. The willingness to fail, and to do it publicly, is part of the brand. Dyson products are marketed as superior engineering. That narrative only works if you actually believe in iterative improvement. Luna: Speaking of belief in what you're building — a small number of listeners support this show directly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's what keeps this whole thing ad-free and independent. Lucas: It's true. The economics of a niche show like this work because of that support. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, chipping in is a meaningful way to keep them coming. Luna: No pressure, just letting you know it's there. So, back to Dyson — he's now focused on new frontiers. Lucas: Right. They're working on solid-state batteries, robotics, and even a wearable air-purifying headphone. The same process applies: build dozens of prototypes, test, fail, iterate. Luna: Do you think that approach can work in fields like biotech or pharmaceuticals, where failure costs lives or billions? Lucas: It's different. But I'd argue that the underlying principle still holds. In drug discovery, you test thousands of compounds before one works. The key is not being emotionally wrecked by the failures. Dyson's mental model is basically the scientific method applied to consumer products. Luna: It's a mindset. And one that's often easier to talk about than practice. Lucas: Absolutely. But if you're a leader looking for a concrete takeaway, try this: next time you have a project that's not working, ask your team 'what did we learn?' instead of 'who's to blame?' That small shift can change the entire dynamic. Luna: And it might take 5,000 iterations to get it right. Lucas: If it's worth doing, yes.