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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullivan, tell, John Osan,
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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton. Jacks Drive Time starts right now. Happy game Week,
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Speaker 1: Happy Labor Day, Happy Monday. Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time,
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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, Brian Sexton and John Osier here with you
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Speaker 1: this week. It is four real as we get ready
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Speaker 1: to head to Houston this weekend take on the Texans
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Speaker 1: for Week one of the regular season. I'm excited. It's
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Speaker 1: for real this time. Happy happy happy. What's that word
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Speaker 1: I made up a couple of years ago and I
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Speaker 1: can't remember it and you guys make fun of me
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Speaker 1: for it? H Happy pipy? Remember pipe? Little day to pipe?
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Go Welcoming off a big college
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Speaker 1: football weekend? And I know you guys are gonna make
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Speaker 1: fun of me, but it was really cool to see
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Speaker 1: fans in the stance. I'm not gonna lie. Watched the
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin jump around video shot a little tier, happy tier,
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Speaker 1: happy for you and the stands. Yeah. Watch. Uh. I
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Speaker 1: didn't watch a whole lot of college football watch McKenzie
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Speaker 1: milton last night. Uh, And even for this old cynical
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Speaker 1: hack that was a heart army story and the Kicker
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Speaker 1: ruined it like Notre Dame Kicker ruined it. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean the fact that he got on the field and
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Speaker 1: did that. I think trump. I don't think in five
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Speaker 1: years people think about that game, they'll remember who one
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Speaker 1: our lost. I remember the kid coming back and it
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Speaker 1: was impressive. It was I totally agree. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: get into big things, shall we. Big thing one is
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Speaker 1: own It's it is for real. Now we have heard
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Speaker 1: own it for months. We've seen it all around this building.
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Speaker 1: Well what exactly does own it mean? We're gonna find
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Speaker 1: out this dB it see a game live in Houston
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. How much can Urban Meyer, Trevor Lawrence, and
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Speaker 1: d J Chark get this offense going in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: D J Chark is pretty confident this year is going
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Speaker 1: to go well. Great offense. You know, Trevor can't really
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Speaker 1: throw it, so he's gonna make my job even easier
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Speaker 1: than before. I got more no on one side. The
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Speaker 1: biscuit in the slot made my job easier, made me
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Speaker 1: want to compete. Maybe you want to go harder than
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Speaker 1: they are. I think that give me where I need
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Speaker 1: to be. Big thing too is expectations. Now we have
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Speaker 1: this own a mentality. It comes to the elephant in
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Speaker 1: the room is how much can we expect rookie quarterback
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence to perform and turn the season around. The
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Speaker 1: vibe of Trevor Lawrence is what pressure he can handle? This?
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Speaker 1: No problem? Well, we've seen rookie quarterback succeed and we've
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Speaker 1: seen it take a little while. So we'll come back
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Speaker 1: to this big thing. Three is control it. Coach Meyer
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Speaker 1: thought his defensive line played well in the preseason. He
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Speaker 1: mentioned owning the line of scrimmage is the key to
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Speaker 1: wins and losses coming up winning this line of scrimmage
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Speaker 1: will directly connect to a winning loss. This is a
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Speaker 1: big deal. We'll talk more about it. So let's go
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Speaker 1: back to big thing too, which is the expectations of
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and how much can we expect him to
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Speaker 1: turn this thing around right away? It seems like that,
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Speaker 1: right It seems like even though Trevor Lawrence and being
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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, it seems like it's almost automatic. So
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Speaker 1: let's pull up these stats that Brian Sexton was nice
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Speaker 1: enough to research. Um, it's alarming that you know, you
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Speaker 1: take Andrew Luck eleven and five you take Baker Mayfield
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Speaker 1: six and seven the rest. It took some time to
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Speaker 1: get this thing going, and you obviously didn't have enough
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Speaker 1: room for all the numbers. Um, but you see the
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Speaker 1: one loss record. Most of the touchdown to interception ratios
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Speaker 1: for these guys were positive. Paid Manning wasn't he was
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Speaker 1: twenty six and um, I think Baker Mayfield, just as
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Speaker 1: an example, was fourteen. As you see the evolution of
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Speaker 1: the passing game. Here's what struck me all of these
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks pastor efficiency rating, which is a complex formula that
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Speaker 1: we don't have to go in depth, but it kind
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Speaker 1: of shows you where quarterback is performing. We're seventy five
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Speaker 1: or below, which is to say a lot of those
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Speaker 1: touchdowns were in garbage time and the game was out
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Speaker 1: of control. You know, a lot like Blake Bortles numbers
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Speaker 1: when he said all the Jaguars passing records and that
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Speaker 1: they won five ballgames. So the thing that stood out
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Speaker 1: to me about this is that whether you take Peyton Manning,
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Speaker 1: who I think, I think Trevor Lawrence reminds me of
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Speaker 1: Peyton man Head, right, So that's I kind of connected
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks through the era, you know, coming back to
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Speaker 1: the guys in eighteen and nineteen and even Josh Allen
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Speaker 1: Um and I chose quarterbacks who had at least ten
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Speaker 1: starts so you could compare. They were okay, they were okay.
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Speaker 1: Um a few guys. Ben Roethlisberger went thirteen and oh,
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Speaker 1: but he had a laundry list of Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: caliber players on the roster with him. Andrew luck had
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Speaker 1: a really good roster as well. Um. Not the same
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Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murcy. So this roster we'll
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Speaker 1: probably go a long way towards suggesting what the final
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Speaker 1: record is for Trevor Lawrence. When we have him to
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Speaker 1: this list, I'll say, you mentioned how he'll handle him. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think he will handle everything fine. That's what I'll
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Speaker 1: watched for because there's gonna be strong, it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: ups and downs. I expect this team to win six
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Speaker 1: or seven games. I hope it's more. Everybody helps it more,
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Speaker 1: has potential to be more. Really looking at that chart
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Speaker 1: one in fifteen last year, the moves they made and
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get better, and he'll make mistakes. The handling
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Speaker 1: it part, I think is the key. Well, you don't
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Speaker 1: want to and I can't imagine from seeing him, from
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Speaker 1: reading about him, from talking to people about him, I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine that you won't handle it well if things
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Speaker 1: go awry, which things inevitably go right. For um. You
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Speaker 1: have heard stories. I have talked to people who have
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Speaker 1: been around rookie quarterbacks. They fall apart, it goes bad. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's gone bad around here. I don't expect Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: to change his approach, to change as a person. To
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Speaker 1: change is a leader when all that happens, as long
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Speaker 1: as he stays the course, I don't really worry about
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Speaker 1: the numbers so much. I want to see by the
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Speaker 1: end of the season that he's still He's still standing tall.
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Speaker 1: You're still hearing from the back that he's the guy
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Speaker 1: so far. The reviews you hear from people who've been
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Speaker 1: around this legal while, who have been round Trevor, he
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Speaker 1: is old school football everything you want. He is. You
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Speaker 1: want to keep hearing that in December if I hear that, Brian,
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Speaker 1: I don't care about those numbers. First of all, the
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Speaker 1: numbers are just an indicator of how varied they are
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Speaker 1: across that and some successful quarterbacks on there. Um. The
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Speaker 1: interesting part to me is I don't. I don't know
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Speaker 1: Trevor all that well. We've only get it limited interaction
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Speaker 1: with and he wants to get to know you, you know,
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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get to obviously I gotta get you,
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Speaker 1: gotta get to to open things up there. But my
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Speaker 1: point is is only that when I sat with him
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Speaker 1: for the broadcast production meetings last month, it was clear
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Speaker 1: to me he can handle this. He's a quarterback. He
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Speaker 1: will have he was born for the position. He is
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Speaker 1: extraordinarily competent on and off the field in front of
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Speaker 1: the cameras, behind the scenes, that none of this will
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Speaker 1: face him. It will take time. I see. This is
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Speaker 1: a six or seven win team as well. The roster
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Speaker 1: to me isn't as good as certainly isn't as good
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Speaker 1: as the Steelers were in two thousand four or the
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Speaker 1: co S were in two thousand and twelve and thirteen. Um.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Andrew Look went eleven and five in
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Speaker 1: each of his first three seasons, So that was a
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Speaker 1: really good roster that they had there. That this roster
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Speaker 1: isn't there yet. It's clear, Um is it better? Yes,
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Speaker 1: it's better. What will his numbers be? It doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: to me one other point of interest regarding Trevor Lawrence, um,
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Speaker 1: the expectations that we have for him are clearly much
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Speaker 1: higher Peter King and his column This Morning, and Peter
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Speaker 1: obviously is well respected around the league and has that
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Speaker 1: very popular Money Morning column had three candidates for Offensive
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. Kyle Pitts the tight end from
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Speaker 1: the Falcons, which clearly a top five pick, Tray Smith,
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick guard for the Chiefs, and Nagie Harris,
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Speaker 1: the running back from Alabama. Not even Lawrence, not even
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Speaker 1: in his top three. That's how low the bar is
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Speaker 1: for him this year is not going to be playing.
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Speaker 1: When he called it as he used it as a
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Speaker 1: writing tool to be able to introduce Trade Smith into
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Speaker 1: the conversation for what he's overcome with his blood clots
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Speaker 1: which dropped him down right, but forget it, but forget
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Speaker 1: it from it. But he put a guard in there
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Speaker 1: over Trevor Lawrence, the number one overall pick. You would think,
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Speaker 1: if you're talking about the number one overall pick, he'd
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Speaker 1: be in the conversation for Offensive Rookie of the Year,
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Speaker 1: But preseason he's not. In one of the most distinguished
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Speaker 1: and heralded columns, in the NFL just a point of
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Speaker 1: and I do feel like, truthfully, with the draft, he
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Speaker 1: was he wasn't. That conversation in April May, it was Okay,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be offensive ky of the year, the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are gonna win eleven twelve games, let's go. And I
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Speaker 1: do think preseason made everyone kind of okay, let's lower expectations,
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Speaker 1: let's be realistic with it. At least that's the feeling
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Speaker 1: I get, is that everyone is kind of okay, let's
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Speaker 1: let's chill out a little bit about this. It seems
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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. I don't know if it's from preseason,
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Speaker 1: although that didn't help. I just feel like maybe that
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Speaker 1: there's that pre draft hype is excited, and then once
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Speaker 1: you really look at it and remember, okay, one in fifteen,
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Speaker 1: you remember these stats that we just saw. Um, I
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Speaker 1: would guess very few number one overall pick quarterbacks have
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Speaker 1: been offensive rookie of the year simply because there are
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Speaker 1: probably well there are probably enough the team hickups on
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Speaker 1: the way and and the teams aren't good enough. However,
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Speaker 1: you know who's numbers words on. There was justin Herbert's right,
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Speaker 1: and Herbert had thirty one touchdowns and ten interceptions for
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Speaker 1: a team that didn't make the playoffs last year. Right. Uh,
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Speaker 1: of course he had a lot of injuries on the
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and yet he was a
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Speaker 1: candidate for offensive rookie. You know, it's amazing. It seems
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Speaker 1: like we have been talking about that this since my
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Speaker 1: senior year in college, which was fifty years ago. It's
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Speaker 1: Trevor and what it's gonna be and how it's gonna look,
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Speaker 1: and finally in six days we get to find out.
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Speaker 1: And that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That makes me
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Speaker 1: happy happy. When we come back on Jaguars Drive Times,
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Speaker 1: some hot takes for week one of the regular season
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Speaker 1: What about Jack's drive time? It's Monday, it's Labor Day.
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Speaker 1: Hope you all are enjoying maybe a day off of
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Speaker 1: work as we get into some hot takes here for
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Brian Sexton, you're up. You have certain
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Speaker 1: numbers based here, and I'll say that the Jaguars will
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Speaker 1: be a fifty percent past runoffense this season, and I
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Speaker 1: was looking last year and look, I chose the number
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Speaker 1: slightly randomly. Uh, that's about the league average. Um. The
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Speaker 1: reason why is the coach keeps talking and the indications
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Speaker 1: from the way they built the team through the off
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Speaker 1: season they were going to run the ball. And he
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Speaker 1: obviously mentioned several times and I know I've recanted it
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Speaker 1: here from our production meeting that he talked to Joe
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Speaker 1: Burrow in the off season and Borrow state, if you
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Speaker 1: do anything to help that kid, give him a running game.
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Speaker 1: Right play actions set the whole thing up. So they
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Speaker 1: were six last season pass um and obviously they had
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Speaker 1: the issue with in consistent quarterback play. So here's the
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Speaker 1: number for you over the last two years Jaguars quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, Mike Klennon, and Jake Luton being the three starters,
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Speaker 1: we're one in fifteen when they threw the ball thirty
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Speaker 1: five times or more in the game. Right now, at
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Speaker 1: some point in time, you're gonna be able to go
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Speaker 1: and throw the ball forty five times a game with
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Speaker 1: this quarterback and it won't matter. But right now, in
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Speaker 1: his rookie season, you don't want to throw in the
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Speaker 1: ball more than thirty five times because it has proven
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Speaker 1: over the last two years to be ineffective with young quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: because that's what at least Luton and Mintshe were young quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: So I'm saying that the coach's efforts to instill the
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Speaker 1: running game and to make it the dominant factor to
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Speaker 1: help his quarterback this year will bring that number way
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Speaker 1: way down. I think they'll be a pretty good running team,
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Speaker 1: not dominant, but a pretty good running team that will
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Speaker 1: allow them to pick and choose their spots to go
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Speaker 1: crazy with the passing game. But I think overall, when
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Speaker 1: you look at it, UM seven would be a really
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Speaker 1: good ratio for this team. When this season is said
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Speaker 1: and done, you spent some time on the internet this
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Speaker 1: weekend calculate research up top little segment. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: guess I can just spit ball. Hey, uh, I agree
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Speaker 1: with you. If there is good running the ball, as
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Speaker 1: you think, then I think maybe they have a chance
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Speaker 1: to be better than my six or seven projection. Because
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Speaker 1: I was looking at the at one of the screenshots
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Speaker 1: earlier and they showed the defensive line. In the defensive
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Speaker 1: line I may have underestimated in the off season. I
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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be pretty good, which leads me to
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Speaker 1: my hot take. Before you do you say one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons why I just just supported I think Chris
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Speaker 1: man Hurts makes a huge difference in their running game
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Speaker 1: this year. They have done some things that maybe weren't
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Speaker 1: high profile that will help them more than people think
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Speaker 1: on the field. Um, because the defensive line is going
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Speaker 1: to be better. I think Miles Jack. Remember Miles Jack. Actually, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well he is, but people don't talk about him. And
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Speaker 1: maybe it's because we all look for storylines that aren't
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Speaker 1: Miles that we look for new stuff. He's still on
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Speaker 1: this team, He's still the Jaguar's best player. And as
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Speaker 1: much as you wanna talk about Trevor Lawrence and I
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Speaker 1: I'm all over Josh Allen and C. J. Henderson getting better.
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack is an elite linebacker at a at a
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Speaker 1: linebacker spot that nobody talks about anymore. Nobody talks about
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Speaker 1: the runaround guy who's not a sack guy. He's elite there.
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Speaker 1: And I think this year, because if they improved from
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Speaker 1: one to even seven, people are gonna look for a
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Speaker 1: reason why it's gonna be Trevor. But I think Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack this year. There was a bubbling around the league
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Speaker 1: that he was really good last year, but the bubbling
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Speaker 1: didn't really reach teams postseason stuff. It was just sort
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Speaker 1: of acknowledged among football people that usually takes a year
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Speaker 1: to catch up. I think this year, people around we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about Miles Jack and hopefully for his sake, he
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Speaker 1: gets the recognition he deserves because he is an elite player. Yes,
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Speaker 1: probo caliber player that just hasn't got But you can't
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Speaker 1: blame him for not getting the recognition because of the
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Speaker 1: team's record, right, there was no way he gets honors
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Speaker 1: last year. Uh if if if they get to above
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Speaker 1: water so to speak, seven and tennis, Yeah, then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now when you're playing with the lead.
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Speaker 1: You see what Miles jacking, You'll see more interception sacks
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Speaker 1: things like that. Totally agree. All right, we're gonna go
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Speaker 1: to some news over the weekend for this next hot take.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars signing Jacob Pollister tight ends. And I was
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Speaker 1: at Jaguars All Access last Thursday night and this was
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Speaker 1: not official yet. This was kind of buzzing, and fans
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Speaker 1: were like, oh my gosh, when we signed Jacob Pollister,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be great. This is gonna reignite the offense.
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Speaker 1: Marcedes Louis, this is going to fill the role that
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Speaker 1: we meet. I think Jacob Pollister checks a needed box.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think this is gonna be as impactful
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Speaker 1: as people think. With the stats that Jacob Pollister has
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Speaker 1: recorded the past two seasons, one receptions and three touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: it would make him the leading tight end on this
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Speaker 1: current roster, above James O'Shaughnessy. But I don't think this
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Speaker 1: is going to so call save the season, revamp the offense.
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Marcedes Lewis, Travis Kelsey start tight end.
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Speaker 1: It's need Well, first of all, he's not He's not
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Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis he's not a blocker, and you've got that
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Speaker 1: and Chris Man hurts. Here's my thing. He and James
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Speaker 1: as Shawn is here the same guy. Shawness had tight
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Speaker 1: receptions last year in a touchdown. This guy had the
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Speaker 1: chance to play with Russell Wilson in Seattle and with
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen in Buffalo. So he's played with really consistent
17:35
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the last couple of years. But he's released, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, really impactful players are not released. Okay, those
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Speaker 1: guys are traded if they aren't needed where they're at.
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Speaker 1: So the one thing that James O Shaunessy has over him,
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Speaker 1: not the numbers, is he's got a relationship with with
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence from being here in training camp. I mean,
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Speaker 1: to me, he's the second receiving tight end. That's it.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what he does. Maybe he becomes more than
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Speaker 1: that in the way that they use him. But they
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Speaker 1: needed another guy. We talked about it last week. He's
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Speaker 1: the other guy. You guys have dogs, Jacob Hawser kick him.
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Speaker 1: What you guys are down on Jacob Hols. I'm not
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Speaker 1: doubt saying I agree. There was such a buzz to
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Speaker 1: get a tight end to get a tight end that
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Speaker 1: I think when they got a tight end, everybody said,
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Speaker 1: oh we got one. Well this kid's good. That's fine.
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Speaker 1: But I think you're right he um, he's James O'Shaughnessy.
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Speaker 1: They needed another guy like that they count on. I've
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Speaker 1: been saying for a couple of months. There's actually two
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Speaker 1: tight ends on rosters. Now there's blocking tight ends, receiving
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Speaker 1: tight ends. They had one receiving tight end. Now they
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Speaker 1: have another one. They have a little depth there. They'll
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Speaker 1: be fine. But he's James as shaughnessy. Again. Sure, I
18:44
Speaker 1: see the needs you picked up another one, But I
18:46
Speaker 1: mean it's it's not like you've all of a sudden
18:48
Speaker 1: sold the position. And that was the vibe I got,
18:51
Speaker 1: was season ticket members, it was you figured it out. John.
18:54
Speaker 1: I think John is right on this one. I think
18:56
Speaker 1: people have been so hungry for a tight end and
18:59
Speaker 1: this was a guy whose name they probably heard during
19:01
Speaker 1: a playoff game with the Seahawks or the Bills, and
19:05
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19:07
Speaker 1: we have. And what I'm saying is I don't think so.
19:10
Speaker 1: I think he's needed, but I don't think he's an upgrade.
19:12
Speaker 1: What also speaks James Oshowness. He's fine if if he
19:16
Speaker 1: is in a functioning offense for sixteen games with a
19:20
Speaker 1: running game that's working, he can have the sort of
19:23
Speaker 1: season he was starting to have in two as a
19:25
Speaker 1: nineteen when he got hurt. He was on pace for
19:27
Speaker 1: about five or six hundred yard season, that kind of
19:29
Speaker 1: a season. They getting that out of him, Hollist or
19:32
Speaker 1: something like that, then they're they're functional at tight end.
19:35
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Speaker 1: up more. My goal is to be at my peak
21:54
Speaker 1: week one, and unfortunately that may have led to a
21:56
Speaker 1: couple of mess get com pretty season um, but I
21:59
Speaker 1: think it's coaching staff sees my dedication and and you know,
22:04
Speaker 1: I'm doing more for my body because let's be honest,
22:06
Speaker 1: you I've ended a couple of seasons on I are
22:08
Speaker 1: here recently, so I'm doing more than I ever have
22:10
Speaker 1: them in great communication with everybody and my comference levels.
22:15
Speaker 1: Jus Lambeau press conference last week, I'm not gonna lie.
22:18
Speaker 1: It was a role all spicy. He came in all hot,
22:22
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean he when kickers miss kicks, you
22:27
Speaker 1: get questions. All people know about kickers where they make
22:30
Speaker 1: or miss. He missed twice, so people wrote and he
22:34
Speaker 1: wasn't talking to me. I mean, well he was boy
22:37
Speaker 1: kind of media, but he didn't have any availabilities. So
22:40
Speaker 1: you're right that he missed three of six one day
22:42
Speaker 1: and he was over two, over over forty, and he
22:45
Speaker 1: came in and he came in hot as they say.
22:48
Speaker 1: But it was an entertaining press conference. I think it
22:51
Speaker 1: was no harm, no foul, and he's going to be
22:53
Speaker 1: the kicker and he you know, I went back again,
22:55
Speaker 1: I looked through the stats. I actually have the internet
22:57
Speaker 1: to Brian, so I went back and looked at stats
23:00
Speaker 1: for Josh Lambo, and his numbers are incredible since he
23:05
Speaker 1: got five. Yeah, and so for him to smirk a
23:09
Speaker 1: little bit and act like everybody was going a little
23:12
Speaker 1: over the top, probably fair well. And look, people watch
23:15
Speaker 1: the games, but they don't see the practice field, and
23:17
Speaker 1: the coaches are there tracking everything on the practice field
23:20
Speaker 1: as well. So he says that his confidence this guy high.
23:23
Speaker 1: I mean it is because obviously he's practiced well. We
23:25
Speaker 1: had a couple of bad practices early on. What sort
23:28
Speaker 1: of pushed the narrative a little early on when it
23:30
Speaker 1: early on he did. But remember he's also coming off
23:32
Speaker 1: of a pretty serious hip injury. And I know that
23:34
Speaker 1: he spent time, you know, traveling. He talked about investing
23:37
Speaker 1: a lot of time and money in his own body,
23:39
Speaker 1: traveling to see guys who were specialists for kickers, for
23:41
Speaker 1: soccer players and things like that. Um, I like, I
23:45
Speaker 1: didn't like him at first. I thought he was too
23:47
Speaker 1: quirky for me, right, the whole having your dog there
23:49
Speaker 1: for the signing day. I thought, what is enough? It's football, please?
23:55
Speaker 1: Um But I kind of like this this version of
23:57
Speaker 1: Josh because you you have to be I have to
24:00
Speaker 1: put your something, the mindset of being on the field
24:02
Speaker 1: in an away stadium, with a huge kick and the
24:07
Speaker 1: crowd going nuts against you and all the pressure on
24:09
Speaker 1: you to win or lose to get into the playoffs, right,
24:11
Speaker 1: which is what we're talking about here. You've got to
24:13
Speaker 1: have that mindset and that chippy, spicy mindset. I like it.
24:16
Speaker 1: I want him to have that. I don't care that
24:18
Speaker 1: we don't have playoff expectations for this team this year.
24:21
Speaker 1: He's got to have those kinds of expectations. If this
24:23
Speaker 1: team is gonna win seven games or god forbid more,
24:27
Speaker 1: they're going to need the kicker to come through. I
24:29
Speaker 1: want my kicker to have that kind of an attitude.
24:32
Speaker 1: Stay with it, Lambo, here for it. All right, let's
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24:41
Speaker 1: Trevors list at two hundred and thirteen pounds. How many
24:45
Speaker 1: pounds would the Jags like him? The way looks to
24:48
Speaker 1: me like two thirty five would be better. John, Yeah,
24:50
Speaker 1: it's about right. I've gotten this a lot since Fervor
24:53
Speaker 1: got drafted. Because he's he's thin and leaner in the
24:58
Speaker 1: of course, he's also a taller in most quarterbacks. Um
25:02
Speaker 1: My thing on this is he's twenty one years old. Uh,
25:06
Speaker 1: I certainly know from experience that you gain weight as
25:09
Speaker 1: you get older, so that sort of happens naturally for
25:17
Speaker 1: human beings. They will make sure over the next couple
25:21
Speaker 1: of off seasons that he gains weight the right way.
25:25
Speaker 1: He certainly looks like he has the frame to be
25:27
Speaker 1: about two thirty five, that that feels somewhere in that range.
25:31
Speaker 1: He's probably a little too thin ideally now, but by
25:34
Speaker 1: the time he's twenty three or twenty four, I think
25:37
Speaker 1: he will have, you know, the grown man mass all
25:41
Speaker 1: that stuff. He will look like ideal quarterback. I don't
25:46
Speaker 1: know what the body fat percentages, but the guy's ripped.
25:48
Speaker 1: I mean you look at his arms, right. And I
25:50
Speaker 1: thought when he sat down with us for that meeting
25:52
Speaker 1: that I keep alluding to because but it's the only
25:53
Speaker 1: one on one that I've really had with him other
25:55
Speaker 1: than sitting in some of the press conferences. Um, and
25:58
Speaker 1: he has big arms, I mean not just long, but
26:01
Speaker 1: he's well defined, so it's not like he's frail. I mean,
26:04
Speaker 1: the guy is He's got a good sturdy frame, without
26:08
Speaker 1: a doubt. And the men, the medical, the athletic training
26:12
Speaker 1: staff here and Sho and he shoul they will have
26:14
Speaker 1: a plan for him. He will go work his own
26:16
Speaker 1: plan at some point in the off season, he will
26:19
Speaker 1: be just fine. I would say anywhere between two thirty
26:21
Speaker 1: and two thirty five would probably be right about right.
26:23
Speaker 1: And that what Manning played that about that Tom Brady's
26:26
Speaker 1: two thirty. He was a little different body type than
26:28
Speaker 1: I mean not Trevor's a really good athlete, probably play basketball.
26:32
Speaker 1: He's that. You know, Look, I don't know that he
26:35
Speaker 1: necessarily has to be a man. He wasn't even like
26:37
Speaker 1: two forty top like he was a big guy. As
26:39
Speaker 1: long as he doesn't get as big as Ben Ben.
26:42
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger looks like an offensive lineman. He's so big, I
26:45
Speaker 1: will say. You see him in pads. You walk past
26:48
Speaker 1: the hallway before game day and you've seen the pads,
26:49
Speaker 1: and you don't think he's thin. No, he fits the
26:51
Speaker 1: partner he's and you've seen that the picture from him
26:55
Speaker 1: when they were at the lake House. I mean the
26:56
Speaker 1: guy's ripped. I mean he's in excellent physical shape. Don't
26:59
Speaker 1: worry about the guy. He's okay, Yeah, all right, let's
27:02
Speaker 1: go to Orange Park. Jay Hooks. Can we foresee the
27:06
Speaker 1: NFL and the NFL p A making it so No,
27:08
Speaker 1: other team can mind other practice squads. What would be
27:11
Speaker 1: the pros and cons of making this rule? Um, I
27:16
Speaker 1: don't think you'll see this because uh, I think fans
27:22
Speaker 1: when they see teams come and get players from practice
27:25
Speaker 1: squads think, oh, that's our guy they're coming to get.
27:29
Speaker 1: I don't think you will see this change because this
27:33
Speaker 1: would have to go through the nfl p A to
27:36
Speaker 1: be approved, and the nfl p A does not necessarily
27:39
Speaker 1: want something that restricts movement. People to understand, practice squad
27:44
Speaker 1: players are essentially fruit. They're very close to being free agents.
27:50
Speaker 1: They're not signed to a team now, they're not quite
27:52
Speaker 1: free agents because there's what that one little caveat where
27:55
Speaker 1: a team signing that has to keep them on the
27:57
Speaker 1: roster for three weeks, So that didn't have it's a
27:59
Speaker 1: little bit of movement. But they can go sign anywhere.
28:04
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is the nfl p A
28:08
Speaker 1: does not want these players to not be able to
28:11
Speaker 1: move if there is an opportunity on another roster. So
28:14
Speaker 1: I would be surprised it would benefit the teams for
28:17
Speaker 1: this email to come to fruition. It would not benefit
28:21
Speaker 1: the players. So I don't think the NFL p A
28:23
Speaker 1: would agree to such a thing. No chance. Uh rough
28:26
Speaker 1: numbers here because I know they change year to year,
28:28
Speaker 1: but the the the weekly salary for a practice squad player,
28:32
Speaker 1: um and again this goes back to the days when
28:34
Speaker 1: they were all younger players, was about eight thousand UM
28:37
Speaker 1: and the weekly salary for a guy who gets signed
28:40
Speaker 1: to the active roster is about thirty right between and thirty.
28:44
Speaker 1: So now you're talking about a guy who would earn
28:46
Speaker 1: what um, hundred thousand dollars on the practice squad all
28:49
Speaker 1: year with a chance to earn about a hundred thousand
28:51
Speaker 1: dollars in three weeks. The NFLP we would never take
28:54
Speaker 1: away the opportunity for a player to earn that kind
28:56
Speaker 1: of a check. Never. It does feel like there's gonna
28:59
Speaker 1: be some talk around this topic because it seems like
29:03
Speaker 1: more and more teams are paying practice quad You can
29:05
Speaker 1: pay practice guy guys more than you're allowed to, so
29:09
Speaker 1: some teams are trying to pay guys more to entice
29:12
Speaker 1: them to keep them. But I don't think it will
29:14
Speaker 1: get to the point where they are allowed to stash
29:18
Speaker 1: guys without the threat of the team sign one. It's
29:20
Speaker 1: tiered now too, so the younger guys without experience, get
29:23
Speaker 1: less than the six guys who you know, the veterans
29:26
Speaker 1: that you can keep on there. They earned considerably more
29:29
Speaker 1: than the eight thousand dollars a week. So yeah, they've
29:31
Speaker 1: got some incentive things there. But it's always I mean,
29:34
Speaker 1: let's be honest, if the nfl p A had their way,
29:36
Speaker 1: everyone would be a free agent every year right right
29:39
Speaker 1: that way. That way you maximize your earning potential and
29:42
Speaker 1: there'll be a hunter guys on you trust where the
29:44
Speaker 1: owners don't want. I mean, yeah, there's a there's a
29:46
Speaker 1: moderation and keep a certain numbers without a doubt. But
29:49
Speaker 1: the point is is that the nfl p A will
29:51
Speaker 1: never give away the dollars and that's what they would
29:53
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