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Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. We recorded this podcast episode on Wednesday,
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September twenty seven, twenty twenty three. By the time you hear this,
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We'd preview the Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Commanders first matchup of this twenty twenty
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four NFL season. It's gonna be a pretty good matchup, I think,
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I really, I think these NFC games always turn out to be what we
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don't necessarily expect. And first division matchup with the Philadelphia Eagles this season,
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and we got a great guest coming your way. Let's just get right to
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it and joining us this week. We love having him on to talk about
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the Washington Commanders. You can find him on Twitter at let Mall tell It
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Good times over there, and we've got the one and only Jamal Forrest.
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How you doing, buddy, Look, ma'am good Man appreciates you having me
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once again. You have to talk a little shot with the Commanders in Eagles
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absolutely help all as well. With you, boss, everything is going well.
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I mean for being an Eagles fan, everything's going well. Three and
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oh you know, look, I really find this matchup to be interesting.
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We're certainly going to get into it because at the end of the day,
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it's an NFC East matchup, and we know how these games tend to go,
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Jamal, I mean, Washington beat Philly at the Link last season,
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but I'm not sure how this game is going to go this week. After
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what we saw from the Eagles against the Buccaneers, they basically dominated them,
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and what we saw from the Commanders against the Bills in Week three, I
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think, you know, I think when I looked at that game and that
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matchup prior to it, I thought the Commanders were going to give them a
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little bit more than what they did, and the Bills really did dominate on
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both sides of the ball. But again we know this is a division game
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both teams, It's the first division game both teams are going to have this
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season. We know how this NFC's kind of plays out from time to time.
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So what's your gut reaction on what we're going to be seeing from this
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game on Sunday from an overall picture standpoint, Yeah, I think honestly,
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Jeff, when you even factor in the loss to the Buffalo Bills, I
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was starting from there. There was one of these things when you kind of
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understood to make up at a team. Obviously when you go against first of
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all, Arizona, who in the moment at Week one, you didn't know
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how how bad of a team they were until you played them, and you
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realize, like, first off, they're not even that bad of a team
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at all, Like obviously they got their holes, but they're gonna be They're
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gonna be competing a week the week type of deal. But but you move
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on from then, and you move on from Denver and the outcome of the
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Denver game, and you're going to Buffalo thinking, you know, I don't
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see a blowout in the Cards in this game, right, I don't see
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this type of thing coming from this team now, I predicted Washington would lose
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within within one possession, but I didn't see being down thirty four points by
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the by the end of the triple Zeros. And when you factor that in
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and you see like how they played and how they ended up going down at
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one point thirty thirty four nothing or thirty seven nothing. Yeah, that's when
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that's when you you readjust your your lenses and you take into account like now
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we're we're talking about a different a different situation. Now you get your bust
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wood from Buffalo and then you head into Philly. I think Washington is in
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this position where first off, your pride, it's clearly damage show as your
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ego, your egos, damage whatever it, whatever it is. I'm not
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going to sit here and say like they were supremely confident and like want to
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go and dominate Buffalo, but like all of these things are damaged, and
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you're left asking these questions about how much how much trouble is the Washington's offense
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in And I think that's probably the biggest thing when you look at this matchup
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with Philadelphia and Washington is how can they quickly find answers to protect a quarterback
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in Sam How to have Sam how protect themselves, like can you scheme up
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something from the offensive line that can help them or whether it's even keeping tight
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ends or running backs into block, whether it's a chip or a block and
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release, or even in mass protection, like how do you or even like
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pre snap motions and and trying to get the defense away from Sam. Like
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the biggest question when you look at this matchup, especially with that front and
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that's kind of like the more alarm and things like that. The Philadelphia's defense,
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they didn't have a drop off up front, like their front seven is
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still it's still solid and wow, Like the offensive line for Washington is a
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little underrated because the criticism is too much. Like you look at the sack
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numbers, you say, oh, their offensive line is bad. No,
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Sam How it's been a problem in terms of how he's processing and getting rid
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of football in which he isn't. So it's accumulating the pressure rate, it's
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accumulating the sack rate, it's accumulating how many times he gets sacked. But
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when you look at I'm sorry, go ahead, gunad now, I was
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just gonna I was just gonna ended it. When you look at all those
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things like that, that big that big part of the matchup is going to
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be up front and how very be enemy from a schematic standpoint, can protect
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his offensive line, can protect his quarterback. And that's ultimately where it starts
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with Washington looking looking into the matchup with the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, it's
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a great segue, Jamal into what I was going to ask you next in
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terms of Sam how his quarterback play, his processing as we're heading into Week
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four, because that inconsistency. While a lot of people are thinking it is
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the offensive line, he really does seem to be inviting too much pressure when
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he's in the pocket. He's taken too many sacks when he should be getting
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rid of the ball or even getting outside the pocket. That pocket awareness and
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pocket management is just not there with him. So what have you really been
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seeing? If you can maybe give a little more details front with regard to
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Sam Howe and how he's really just trying to progress through this season, it
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is because it's not all on the offensive line. He's got to get through
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his progressions and he's got to understand the concept of pocket management. I think,
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yeah, I think Sam is in this position. I mean, obviously
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he's going into his fifth game as a starter, and for sam I this
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has been an issue in college, but it's also been an issue even stemming
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from his first game against the Cowboys last year. He's a quarterback who he's
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shown he's capable of going through progressions. But then like there's a lot of
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times where you look at him and he's stuck on his first read and and
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like, I think that's kind of the the issue with him is like when
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he when he does get stuck on his first read and it doesn't look like
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it's going to open up, he builds like he puts his head down and
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he looks to scramble and for for how he's in this position where you know,
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we can find a way to try to develop him in a sense of
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in a sense of like we want him to be a sustained success at quarterby
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want him to be here for multiple years, right, we want that to
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happen. We want him to be the guy. But when you look at
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the way he was able to make some plays down the field in terms of
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with his arm talent, but also like I'm gonna place he wasn't Like,
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for example, Buffalo, they did a really good job disguising their coverages and
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up front. They did a good job of disguising their pressures. Like the
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I was gonna get a little bit nerdy here, I pause, I paused
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for a second. But they're they're sending second level, they're second they're sending
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those second level defenders and replacing their front their first level of defenders and putting
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them in coverage and like sending different ways to attack gaps in between the center
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and guard and the guard and tackle and things like that. Overloading pressures.
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That's confusing and saying, but also like he's forgetting that there's a checkdown here
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available, so like there's ways to confuse him in the game, and he's
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not taking advantage of the fact that he has a checkdown right here, or
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like short, the enemy is in a situation where maybe he calls a play
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that it takes too long to get open. Ye find your checkdown, like
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you don't have to hold onto the ball because your first read isn't there,
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or look off your first read and go to the next progression. But at
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the end of the day, like there's a culmination of things, Like you
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mentioned Sam and you ask about him specifically, but there's a culmination of things
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that that really gets in his way of really growing and developing. But it's
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not all bad, Like he's shown that he can really make some plays in
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the pocket and rhythm. But like the it's it's impossible to sit here and
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say what you see in terms of his positives is outweighing the negatives. You
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cannot sustain an offense. You cannot sustain a successful offense with the amount of
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sexty he's taken or with amount of pressure that's being given up, Like there
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has to be something that gives in terms of a jesting and fixing this thing
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for the better. Well, I was gonna ask you, like, where
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Eric B Enemy goes from here too, because I mean, he's a phenomenal
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coach in this league, but he's just he's facing these early struggles with various
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units on this offense. How would you like to see Eric B Enemy alter
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the direction of the offense if he even needs to at this point that we're
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heading into week four against the Eagles here or do you think there needs to
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be you know, any sort of personnel alterations. Where do you think Eric
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bi Enemy kind of goes from here? Yeah? For me, man,
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it's it's always been Brian Robinson, they running back. I've been screaming,
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you got to use the more. It's gotta use it more. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, I've been I've been screaming since the Arizona game. I
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said, I don't understand how you wait until I think now my numbers maybe
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off at the moment I'm talking about it, but we can look back.
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But like, I don't understand how you end the first half of the Arizona
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game with Brian Robinson touching the ball three or four times, Like that's that's
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criminal. It doesn't matter what type of It doesn't matter what type of offense
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or philosophy. That's changed. Obviously, we've become a Washington has become a
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past first offense now, and that's gonna look different from a from a team
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that's coming from a run dominant offense or a coach who emphasizes the run because
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the past game with the quarterbacks aren't successful. Like Brian Robinson is still a
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playmaker for your offense, and you have to find a way to get him
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involved early, for example, like they did that part in the first quarter
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against the Buffalo Bills. But guess what, Like you found a way to
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get away from it, and now he ends up with ten carries on the
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day when he could have had twenty. And you're talking about a team who
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was either by by the by midway through the fourth quarter, you're probably talking
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about a team who's maybe down by three points or ten points. But at
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the end of the day, they're still within the game. They're still within
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the scores, length, scores, reaching the game or something like that.
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So it starts with with Brian Robinson and then you look at the right tackle
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Andrew Wiley. Uh, if there's like a link that could be fixed right
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now, you can consider Cornelis Lucas, who is their their backup swing tackle.
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I do, and I was a proponent of this even after the game
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ended. But when you think about it at even at large, like when
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you get a larger example size of Cornelis Lucas, he struggled last year,
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and he struggled a year before in terms of like a full time starting role
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because of an injury or something like that. He within that instance like as
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opposed to a spot duty. So like you you have these conundrums where you
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look at it's like, all right, well I have some answers, will
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they work I don't know, but at the same time, like you have
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to start thinking of things because again, as I repeat it, and I
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will continue saying this even on my own podcast or on Twitter or anything like,
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it's it is not sustainable the way that is going right now. So
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you have to find answers because eventually, and I'm not even jinxing or not
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trying to jinks, but like, the reality is as many hits as he's
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exposed to Sam, how he's gonna get hurt or he could get hurt.
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So you have to find a way of protecting him. Absolutely, all right,
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Well, let's move to the other side of the ball, the defense
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here, because I still see this Commander's defense. I think a lot of
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other folks do as well, see this defensive front as one of the best
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in the league. I mean at least on paper for sure, But I
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mean they just seem like recently they've kind of been getting pushed around and outmatched
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by you know, quote superior teams and other type of matchups. We saw
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this against the Bills as well, and now they're facing a three and ol
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Eagles team with a very very powerful offensive line, a lot a lot of
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big guys, a lot of big guys on the Eagles offensive line and they
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could potentially get pushed around here. How has the lack of the pass rush
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too from the commanders affected this defense overall? Jamal so credits to Buffalo.
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I think one of the big things that they did UH in the matchup last
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week was found a way to utilize like they're one one running back, two
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tight end packages, two running back to two tight end packages, play actions
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things like that, and even with those two tight end packages that I've mentioned,
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like they're keeping an extra offensive linement and as there their six blocker,
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like they're ineligible but they're eligible, but they're keeping them in as a max
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protection type of situation to really have those true UH situations where they can control
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the rush in front of them and they're having some effect the double teams on
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Washington's interior pass rushers or even Chase Young Romonte sweat on a given play.
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So from a schematics standpoint, like that's how you kind of and even with
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the moving of the pocket and play action and things like that, and like
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jet jet actions where like the defensive lineman or just thinking a lot, like
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even with the chips, like they're thinking a lot, and so from a
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schematic standpoint, there's one way to take out the pass rush in Washington.
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For whatever reason, I don't I can't tell you the details, but I
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don't understand how a team with a tenure in terms of like multiple years,
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three three four plus years in to this system, in this scheme isn't really
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prepared for offense. Who is gunning for it? Like they're not playing around.
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This is a super Bowl contending team. Yeah, so when you ask
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about pressure it, I think it will vary from week to week. But
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this is a team going into the Buffalo game that work that was top ten
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and pressure rate that was top sending sacred but also tied for first in texts.
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So I think for Washington, moving against Philadelphia Eagles is gonna be a
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good test and seeing like how they really stack up against some of the better
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offensive lines in the NFL, because you get two of them back and back.
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Well, Buffalo is okay, but they schemed it well yeah, but
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Philadelphia is a good offensive line, So how do you how do you scheme
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against them? In terms of the commanders defensive side of football? So,
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like, I don't, I don't know what it's gonna look like because of
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what we just saw against Buffalo, you got out coached in all phases?
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How does how does that happen against Philadelphia? Are you able to overcome it?
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Do you end up sending pressure like do you put the Ryn pain back
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in in in zone coverage again? Which was egregious? I don't I didn't
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understand that, but I do think if all means, like from a talent
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standpoint, they have the things to do it. They just have to be
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a little bit more disciplined and stop thinking so so much. Man, It's
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it's it's opportunity there and they can really control the game if they if they
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show what they were capable of like the first two weeks. All right,
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well, let's get into some matchup talk here, because I look at both
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of these teams, as you know, there's definitely strength, definitely weaknesses on
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both sides of the ball for sure. So get into the matchup against the
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Eagles here, Jamal, Where do you think the Commanders are most vulnerable on
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offense after what you saw during Week one as it pertains to the matchups something
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thinking You may say offensive line, but I'm not one hundred percent sure.
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Where do you think they are most vulnerable on offense. From a matchup standpoint,
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I mean it's hard not to say offensive line. I think your adge
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rushers and your interior past ushers is gonna give like an ultimate test to Washington's
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revamped offensive line. I mean, there's been a lot of praise about how
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the interior had looked over the course of the first three weeks. Now,
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said Deck Charles is coming off a game where he didn't look too good.
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It's the Buffalo Bills as well as Nick Gates. He had his he had
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some of his issues against the Buffalo Bills as well. But at the same
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time, from a from a tackle to interior offensive line, like you don't
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face as meaning you don't see as many speed rushers as you as you do
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against the Philadelphia. Excuse me, you don't face as many speed rushers and
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powerful interior rushers that such as what the Philadelphia has upfront. And that's kind
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of where things are like, all right now, I know this is a
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task that's going to be impossible for even some of the best offensive lines out
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there in the NFL. But at the same time, this is a team
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that's in your division and you have to find a way to keep Sam Howe's
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feet clean in front of them, and how do you prevent the interior penetration.
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That's one of the things that Philadelphia does well. Like now, I
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haven't had a chance at the Day Works for recording is to really look at
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this year's defense, but I know that like y'all relying on y'all front for
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more than anything else. Y'all don't have to send that many blitzes. So
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it's like y'all could get home with these guys. And that's the thing that
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that really Washington loves to do as well. They don't send pressure on the
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defense side. They don't send pressures or a lot of pressures. They really
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want that front four to win. But Philadelphia like they are, they are
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getting like they have that reputation. There's they're solidified up front somewhat to Washington,
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but they're at a higher degree. Washington's at a lesser degree in them.
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So I really think it really does started the offensive line in a secondary
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like a sub bullet to that is how Sam is prepared and really reading the
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coverages like that that really hurt Washington against the Buffalo Bills. And if it's
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a cominct league. Washington is going to face a lot of disguise coverages up
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front or going to back in with the Philadelphia Eagles in the following week.
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So it's going to Sam to be able to adjust and really show that he's
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capable of managing but also playing a fishing football against these type of coverages.
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Great great points for sure. And on the flip side of that, I'm
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wondering where you think the Commanders are most vulnerable on the defensive side of the
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ball when they're facing uh, you know what has been at times a prolific
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Eagles offense, and you know sometimes they have stall here and there, especially
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some challenges in the red zone this past week, really getting the ball in
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the end zone. But where do you think the Commanders are most vulnerable on
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the defensive side of the ball, Jamal? I mean Washington has had his
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issues in terms of like perimeter runs, and I think for Washington being able
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to play discipline like gap control football, even stemming from the linebackers and run
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support, is going to be big. Now that's not one particular matchup in
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terms of one player versus another player or a unit thing, but you need
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like for example, Cody Barton to play run fits better, and he's a
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guy that can really be targeted. For example, another guy Emmanuel Forbes.
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You your rookie cornerback, he does make plays on the edge, but when
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it's time for him to get in traffic and get a little dirty. Now
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you don't need your coverage corner to really get his feet with in terms of
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situations like this. But at the same time, when you on the field,
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it ain't no ducking like you, you really have to get your feet
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dirty if they if they, if they run your rate, and so for
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a person like that, I wouldn't be surprised if Philadelphia tries to target whichever
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side of the football he's on. I mean, whichever side of the field
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he's on. So, like the perimeter runs is gonna be big. Washington
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had seen over the course of the first two weeks. Buffalo didn't really do
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a good job at this. They though they tried it, and I don't
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expect teams to stop trying after Buffalo. But what what Denver and Arizona did
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successfully it was a lot of like quick sweeps to the to whoever's in motion
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behind the quarterback or even in front of the quarterback. Like these jet sweep
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motions that that popped off for like ten plus yards per carry. So for
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Washington, that's gonna be big in terms of like how they handle perimeter runs.
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And that's just that when you deal with DeAndre Swift, you can run
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your outside zones or your mid zones or something like that and find those creases
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on the edge if those linebacks are not able to really fill those gaps behind
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the defensive line, so it really is perimeterive runs. If y'all have success
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like that, I wouldn't expect I would expect the RPOs open up the pass
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lanes behind behind the linebackers. Would I would expect some play action passes to
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really pop off downfield. So it's gonna they're gonna have to find a way
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to get control under that immediately. I love the analysis for sure. And
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again, folks were talking to Jamal Forrest from the Trapper Dive podcast. Search
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And as we're finishing up, here are discussion, Jamal want to get
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into one thing each team is gonna have to do in order to win the
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game this coming week. So what's the one thing the Commanders are gonna need
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to hit on this week for a win? Buddy? Oh, you know
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it's crazy, Jeff I had said this. I'll be quick cause I know
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I ain't got that, mista. So I had said on Twitter yesterday somebody
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had put it like, obviously the Eagles are twenty and one in the last
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twenty one games or something like that. Somebody in Commander's world has said,
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like, you know who that last team was, and and raising like a
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trophy. And I don't criticize them, like I just say, get that
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out of your system. Because the Philadelphia Eagles is a team who is Super
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Bowl contenders yet again, and they are like a legitimate threat to win the
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NFC and they are a legitimate favorite to win the NFC East. And when
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you look at that and you say, what's one thing? The reason why
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I pause like that, it's like there are a thousand things that Washington has
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to do to win the game. How do you narrow this down the one
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the one thing? And and honestly, I think for Washington to win this,
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it's probably gonna be a shootout. It's probably gonna be something because Philadelphia
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is gonna put up They're gonna put up points, and I know they're looking
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for revenge against Washington after what happened last year on Monday Night. So I'm
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thinking, if there's one thing we need Sam how to play within the system
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but also be very cognizant of of being an efficient quarterback. Like if something
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isn't there, I need you to check the ball down. If you do
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see that run lane, like commit to it and go. But if you
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if you if you trust your offensive line and give them some time, but
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also step up in the pocket sometimes maybe you do ashume, maybe you are
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able to go through multiple progressions and those are some things that can really or
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that's one thing that can really help Washington out. Now I would say run
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the ball, right, but that's kind of I mean, running the ball
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is one thing. I need them to run it. But at the same
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time, when you drop back the pass in the past first offense, you
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need your quarterback to be as efficient as possible. So there's one thing you
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need Sam how to really bounce back from from that week that Week three Bass
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that where he really single handedly have a terrible game. Yeah, it's as
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simple as that. Yeah, a terrible game. Well, what you need
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him to bounce back as at Like there's no there's no waiting for it,
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and he's happening week for it. That's gonna be tough to do. At
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the link, I'm telling you, I think that's gonna be tough to do.
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But I wonder what you think the one thing the Eagles are gonna need
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to hit on for a win this week? Well, look, man,
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y'all just need established a ground game like and pressure to quarterback, like if
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you if you walk in, if you all can take if you all can
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take control of the game in terms of time of possession, you don't like
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Philadelphia is explosive enough where like even if you drop back the pass twenty times
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in a game like there's there's a potential for like five explosive plays, so
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you don't really have to you don't really have to be a pass heavy offense
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from a Philadelphia side. But for for Philadelphia, if you can control the
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ground game and really exploit the defensive ends, right, you're gonna be You're
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gonna be in a position where you can you can comfortably take or shim you
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can at least take enough time off the clock to put put pressure on Washington
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and they're going to be forced to think about abandoning the run. Yep.
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Absolutely, so I think for for Philadelphia really just control to control the ground
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game or establish a ground game. Uh. DeAndre Steff has been a clearly
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a huge upgrade for what it seems in his in his first two games two
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and a half games yea with Philadelphia. So that's that's honestly what I think.
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Control control, to control, to control the line of scrimmage, control
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the clock, and then everything else with all under did all right? Very
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good again, folks. Jamal Forrest from the Trap or Dive podcast. Search
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tell it on Twitter. Jamal, buddy, it was great talking to you.
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Thanks so much for taking the time. Let's talk more down the road.
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Yeah, sir man, I'm here for appreciate you. Steff. Yeah,
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absolutely think Jamal was correct there. I mean, the Eagles they need
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to control time of possession. They're gonna be doing that by just simply running
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the ball using DeAndre Swift using Kenny gainwell as well. We have to continue
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to see that from the Eagles to exploit some of the weaknesses. And again,
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but that Commander's defensive front, they are a very very good defensive line.
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Do I think the Eagle's offensive line can push him around a little bit?
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I do. However, we remember the last time these teams met.
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I gotta tell you it's a bad taste, bad taste in the mouth.
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So the Eagles are obviously going to be looking to get some revenge there for
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sure. But at the end of the day, I think we're going to
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see a lot of run game coming from the Eagles. DeAndre Swift is probably
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going to be over one hundred yards. I'd be surprised if he's not.
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So it's gonna be interesting to watch this game for sure, this Sunday.
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